Bayraktar Akinci - the future of the Ukrainian Air Force?

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Recently, the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies showed an interesting table where you can see the deliveries of combat and combat training aircraft of new production to the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation in 2008-2021. The country received the most cars in 2014 - 101 units. In 2020 and 2021, the same figures were 23 and 21, respectively. The total number of new aircraft for the entire indicated period is more than half a thousand units.


Perhaps someone will call these figures not optimistic enough, and the data for recent years is not very impressive, to put it mildly. However, there are countries in which everything is much worse in this sense. During the same period, the Ukrainian Air Force did not de facto receive a single new manned combat aircraft. In current realities, this sounds like a joke, but the problem (for Ukraine) is that this is real data.



To say that the old Soviet Su and MiGs does not make sense to use in modern warfare is once again pointless. Many articles have been written on this subject: there is experience (very negative) in the use of Ukrainian combat aviation at the height of the conflict in the Donbass, and there are figures of Russian aircraft losses during the war against Georgia in 2008.

It is also obvious that Ukraine is in no hurry to buy modern fighters fourth generation, although according to the plan approved by the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine the year before last, by 2030 at least two Ukrainian tactical aviation brigades should be completely re-equipped with new winged vehicles. By 2035, Ukrainian aviation should have from 70 to 100 modern multi-purpose machines: so far, no real steps towards rearmament have been made.

East will help us


Only the lazy did not talk about the purchase and use by Ukraine of Turkish strike operational-tactical medium-altitude UAVs Bayraktar TB2. Now this is a fait accompli. Another question is that a drone with a maximum speed of 220 kilometers per hour and a combat load of 50 kilograms cannot be considered as an alternative to large aircraft, no matter what anyone says. Perhaps this will be the novelty of the Turkish defense industry - the heavy UAV Akinci.

Recently, the Turks signed the first export contract for the supply of Akinci. The country is not specified, and we have no reason to believe that Ukraine became it. Meanwhile, Ukrainians are increasingly making it clear that they are interested in a new “drummer”. In early December, Ukrainian Ambassador to Turkey Vasily Bodnar posted on his Twitter account a mock-up of Akinci with Ukrainian identification marks and a significant caption: “For now, a mock-up, but I hope it will become a reality soon.”


In addition, last fall, Ukrainian military observer Oleg Zhdanov noted that Ukraine could use Akinci in the Donbass.

I must say, the characteristics of the UAV look very decent:

Length: 12,2 m.
Wingspan: 20,0 m.
Height: 4,1 m.
Maximum takeoff weight: 5 kg.
Payload: 1 kg.
Maximum speed: 360 km / h.
Cruising speed: 240 km / h.
Power plant: two AI-450T turboprop engines with a capacity of 450 hp each. With.
Maximum flight duration: 24 hours.


The BLPA has eight (according to other sources - six) suspension points, on which it can carry a variety of weapons. This includes air-to-air missiles - Bozdoğan with short-range infrared homing and Gökdoğan with active radar homing.

The Turkish drone received a long-range SOM (Stand-off Mühimmat Seyir Füzesi) cruise missile with a range of 250 kilometers. In addition, the arsenal includes a huge number of small air-to-surface munitions, including the well-known MAM-L and MAM-T.


The combat effectiveness of the UAV is also designed to increase the radar with an active phased antenna array of Turkish production.

Pros and cons


The obvious advantage of such a choice for Ukraine will be the already existing deep level of military-technical cooperation. De facto, Akinci is partly a Ukrainian development, because the Ukrainian AI-450T engines are the basis of its power plant. The Turks recently ordered 30 AI-450T engines for fifteen Akinci. This is the second such agreement. ZMKB Progress delivered 20 AI-450T engines to Baykar Savunma as part of the first to equip experimental and pre-production Bayraktar Akinci.


It is not known how long such cooperation will last. The Turks themselves wanted to install their own PD-222 developed by Tusas Engine Industries (TEI), however, knowing the difficulties of Turkish engine building, in practice this can be very, very far away.

An obvious plus for Ukraine is that this UAV already exists. Unlike, for example, the Bayraktar MIUS, which should also receive a Ukrainian engine, Akinci has been adopted by Turkey, although only a few copies have been built so far.


There is no doubt that, in theory, the Bayraktar Akinci will be able to hold its own in a dogfight. By the way, this applies not only to Turkish drone: Orion recently shot down an aerial target with a guided missile. The distance was four kilometers. Meanwhile, in a real air battle, the difference between a low-speed UAV and a jet fighter will clearly not be in favor of the first.


De facto, the drone was and remains a “convenient” target. Everyone remembers footage of the destruction of a Georgian UAV by a MiG-29 fighter in 2008, although that device was incomparably smaller and more difficult to detect. As for the Akinci, its dimensions are roughly comparable to those of a fighter, which can hardly be called an advantage.

It is likely that with the launch of large-scale production, the price of Akinci will decrease, and it will be comparable to the price of a modern attack helicopter or a not-so-modern fighter, but we will be able to draw exact conclusions only in the long term. So far, we can only state that the purchase of the Akinci UAV by Ukraine is unlikely to significantly affect its defense capability.

In a way it's repeating itself story with four Turkish corvettes purchased by Ukraine, which could be useful in the fight against an obviously weaker enemy, but are almost completely useless if we talk about a possible big war.
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  1. -5
    15 February 2022 18: 16
    Why should the Sumerians think? Of course, the Sultan's UAVs of the day are delicious - but expensive .. I suggest the Luftwaffe's coming out to put the Farman and Sopwith into service - and other offal from the times of Verdun and the Somme.
  2. +1
    15 February 2022 18: 32
    Still, it's a complex. And you will have to buy 3 pieces of apparatus for one "steering wheel".
  3. +3
    15 February 2022 18: 33
    Meanwhile, in a real air battle, the difference between a low-speed UAV and a jet fighter will clearly not be in favor of the first.


    This is if you count 1: 1, as in the joke about the proportions of hazel grouse cutlets "one hazel grouse - one horse." What about the optionone MiG-29 destroyed three bayraktars before being shot down"? Doesn't look like a clear win...

    It seems to me that it is customary for us to underestimate drones. And there are no grounds for this.
    1. +4
      15 February 2022 19: 38
      Quote: Proctologist
      It seems to me that it is customary for us to underestimate drones. And there are no grounds for this.

      ========
      Yes! That is why we have more than 2 UAVs in our Armed Forces (although for the time being, they are mostly of the light class). And probably it was precisely from this very "underestimation" - at such a rapid pace that the plant was built in Dubna ....
  4. +2
    15 February 2022 18: 41
    span 20m two hefty screws, what kind of stealth can we talk about, the more the lower the height, the less the operator sees, the higher the height is a high-contrast target in most ranges
  5. +3
    15 February 2022 18: 47
    I wonder what shisha ukrovermacht will buy these Anki for? Now, due to the panic amid the hysteria about the Russian attack, capital from Ukraine has unanimously pulled into Zakardonshchina. Ze mentioned that almost 12 billion dollars ran away in a couple of days. Investors are pulling out their money and winding down the business. Under the guarantees promised by mattresses to Zelensky, for 1 billion dollars, it is still necessary to find that stupid country that will allocate this billion to a country that is on the verge of war and collapse. It's the same as just heating the fireplace with a billion dollars. Gold reserves are getting scarcer, and you still have to pay off debts with accrued interest to the IMF and other creditors. What remains is clearly not enough for social programs and support for the hryvnia exchange rate, and this is most likely a popular revolt.
    These dills need to stick bayonets into the ground and stomp home, so that these 120 thousand concentrated on the line of demarcation with the LDNR change their machine guns to sledgehammers and shovels and start working for the country. Well, mattresses must be sent in the forest and in three letters. Then you look in 15-20 years they will heal at least the way they did under Yanukovych
    1. -2
      15 February 2022 19: 34
      Quote: Nyrobsky
      Then you look in 15-20 years they will heal at least the way they did under Yanukovych

      Yes, they didn’t have a life .. All the leaders only did what they stuffed their pockets and deceived their people .. Their average salary was always around 200 USD. e
      1. +1
        15 February 2022 19: 43
        I agree with you in the assessment "by the hands of drivers" of the former Ukrainian SSR. All the current statements of these hucksters crowded around the feeder about buying UAVs ... Or corvettes - this is an outright lie. From what shisha will the ukrovermacht acquire all these little things - dryuchki?
      2. +1
        16 February 2022 15: 26
        Their average salary has always been around $200. e

        This is not so, it was clearly over 500.
        Yes, they did not have a life

        2004-2008 looked rather optimistic in general, but after that there really was no
  6. -5
    15 February 2022 18: 58
    Pure commerce, engines are made by Progress in cooperation with Motor, however, if Western partners cut off the supply of electronics and optics, then the gesheft may be covered with a copper basin. There is no money for planes, but UAVs cannot replace normal aviation, and the airfields of Banderland, to put it mildly, are not very good. There was information that one "bayraktar" in Starokonstantinov had already been "robbed" due to a very hard landing.
  7. 0
    15 February 2022 21: 55
    What a variety of aircraft we have!
    1. -3
      15 February 2022 23: 08
      Someday there will be Su 57 Su 75 Su 34 UAV Okhotnik and MiG 31 - 41.
      1. 0
        16 February 2022 16: 04
        Well, as if the Su-30 and Su-35 are being produced right now, and will be produced in the future, it means that they will serve them for at least another 20 years, or even more.
  8. -1
    16 February 2022 08: 33
    For poor countries - the very thing: a substitute for both reconnaissance and attack and helicopter aviation ....... and the Yak130 will not help compete with developed countries ... even the 4th generation is beginning to yield to the 5th.
  9. -3
    16 February 2022 09: 15
    Bayraktar Akinci - the future of the Ukrainian Air Force?

    Ukraine has stated that it will not comply with the Minsk agreements. It is necessary to recognize the LDNR and supply modern weapons there. It is useless to negotiate with the West, they will do whatever they want anyway, and they will also make Russia guilty of everything.
  10. 0
    16 February 2022 09: 54
    Turkish corvettes, which could be useful in the fight against an obviously weaker enemy, but are almost completely useless if we talk about a possible big war.

    A small but quite modern ship carries 8 Harpoon anti-ship missiles (the latest modifications, with a range of up to 290 km). And this poses a danger to any fleet, especially in closed water areas.
    As for the control center for launching anti-ship missiles, it can be issued “in a friendly way” by E-500 flying somewhere in 3 km. Not so simple request
  11. -1
    16 February 2022 09: 57
    About drones in comparison with OTRK:


  12. -3
    16 February 2022 10: 54
    Pepelats with the performance characteristics of the Junkers-87 IIMB bomber can be the basis of the military aviation of a modern state only in advertising articles of paid magazines. fool
  13. 0
    16 February 2022 15: 34
    To say that the old Soviet Su and MiGs does not make sense to use in modern warfare is once again pointless. Many articles have been written on this subject: there is a (very negative) experience of the use of Ukrainian military aviation in the midst of the conflict in Donbass, and there are figures of Russian aviation losses during the war against Georgia in 2008.

    Well well well! It makes no sense to use aviation without covering it from the effects of air defense - yes. If the Ukrainian planes had been covered by electronic warfare, or at least snapped with the help of the Kh-31P, they could well have remained at heights inaccessible to Verbs.
  14. 0
    16 February 2022 17: 31
    a delicious, dangerous and interesting thing, subject to payment for disgusting!!
    1. -1
      16 February 2022 17: 32
      Banderstadtsy want everything for free!!! wink
      1. -1
        16 February 2022 17: 35
        here is the ambush!! - like a battering ram against RUSSIA, yes, but no one wants to give denyushki !! wink
  15. -1
    16 February 2022 18: 24
    And how much will a heavy drone cost? I can imagine what size airfields will be needed and most importantly: a control system from the ground.
    1. 0
      April 7 2022 01: 51
      Quote: Victor Sergeev
      And how much will a heavy drone cost? I can imagine what size airfields will be needed and most importantly: a control system from the ground.

      The Ukrainian Air Force has no future. A demilitarized country will have only law enforcement agencies among the security forces. The Russian Federation has its own vision of the development of UAVs. hi
  16. 0
    17 February 2022 01: 30
    Quote: Victor Sergeev
    And how much will a heavy drone cost?

    Significantly less pilot life.
    Their minke whales (strike UAVs) have long been launched from aircraft carriers, refueled by cow drones. And the AI ​​​​integrated into the UAV is ready to compete with the best pilots. The AI ​​meat (pilot) games played by the DARP program show that the meat has no chance of winning the fight. The AI ​​has defeated a live pilot in dozens of battles.
  17. 0
    18 February 2022 08: 19
    To say that the old Soviet Su and MiGs does not make sense to use in modern warfare is once again pointless. Many articles have been written on this subject: there is a (very negative) experience of the use of Ukrainian military aviation in the midst of the conflict in Donbass, and there are figures of Russian aviation losses during the war against Georgia in 2008.


    Nonsense. And old planes can show themselves well if used correctly. A reference to the experience of 2008 is generally past the box office - the technique was used just clumsily. Given that it is necessary to take into account not only losses, but also the damage that aviation was able to inflict on the enemy.
    NATO is also armed with not only the 5th generation, there is enough of its junk.
  18. 0
    April 12 2022 09: 26
    The Armed Forces of Ukraine have no future, and no Bayraktars will change this.
  19. 0
    April 17 2022 22: 21
    And why not destroy the Ukrainian plant that produces engines for the Baraktars?
    If missiles hit military targets in the Lviv region,
    then bombing the Zaporozhye Motor Sich is not a problem at all.
    And do not expect that this plant will ever go to Russia.
    Before the surrender of Zaporozhye, the Ukrainians themselves will blow it up.
    Definitely ...
  20. 0
    April 17 2022 23: 11
    All classic UAVs have a minus in the presence of a runway. It is interesting why the design in the form of a tiltrotor is not used, but with the preservation of the usual aircraft form. Foldable, sustainer and tail engines. Then the UAV will be able to take off like a helicopter and transform into an airplane in flight. Of course, this will eat up space in the hull, but the presence of a runway is not required at all. what
  21. 0
    2 May 2022 20: 42
    Does banderye have a future?