China decided to use the UAV to control the disputed islands

China intends to control the adjacent marine areas, including the disputed islands, by means of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), the Central Oceanographic Office of the PRC reported on Sunday.

The UAV usage center will be located in Lianyungang, a coastal city in Jiangsu Province (East China). The system of UAV bases is planned to be created by 2015, the management representative said, ITAR-TASS reports.

The Diaoyu Islands are disputed by China and Japan, the Scarborough Reef (Huangyan) is the subject of a territorial dispute between China and the Philippines.

As the newspaper VZGLYAD previously reported, earlier on Sunday, China adopted the first aircraft carrier. They became the converted Ukrainian aircraft carrier “Varyag”, which was acquired by Beijing back in 1998. Last year, the aircraft carrier has already passed sea trials, in particular, made 10 exits to the open sea and conducted training with deck aircraft aviation.

The appearance of aircraft carriers at the disposal of China will significantly affect the alignment of forces in the region. In Tokyo in particular, they are watching with concern the expansion of Chinese fleet in the Pacific Ocean, especially in light of the recent escalation of the territorial conflict of Japan and China.

Comments

[spender]

The right decision: cheap and cheerful It will be expensive to patrol ships, after detection they will be customized ... In general, UAVs have a great future in terms of border monitoring, especially maritime ones. IMHO

[Slayer]

They don’t have it, anyway no side will back down, they will only bring the matter to war, they would have divided the islands equally

[spender]

Quote: Slayer

They don’t have it, anyway no side will back down, they will only bring the matter to war, they would have divided the islands equally

There is a large gas field, because of it there are disputes over who needs to develop, and the islands are an occasion to gain a foothold and begin development

[tronin.maxim]

Quote: Slayer

would have divided equally the islands

It's impossible! Both countries are in dire need of hydrocarbons! So the confrontation will be tough, in the flesh before the war! But what kind of war will be infarmational, economic or classic version time will tell!

[Ataturk]

I would like to see Chinese drones. For the sake of rzhach. I want to see who stole .... In general, it is impossible to sell modern military equipment to China.

Guys, I have not forgotten much and do not remember who reminds me of how they built nuclear weapons? Where did China get weapons of mass destruction?

Thanks in advance for your reply.

[Wedmak]

They themselves developed a kind of how. Here are just their delivery vehicles ... only missiles in my opinion. but not .. I'm lying .. 120 bombers of Hong Kong-6 - analogues of our Tu-16

[Ataturk]

Quote: Wedmak

They themselves developed a kind of how.

that is, did the Chinese themselves create such a weapon? No one was copied or stolen, and moreover no one gave them? Hmmm is strange however.

Anyway, thanks for the reply.

[Slayer]

Quote: Ataturk

that is, did the Chinese themselves create such a weapon? No one was copied or stolen, and moreover no one gave them? Hmmm is strange however.

The USSR was building the nuclear power plant most likely, so they brought you technologies on a silver platter)

[Wedmak]

Well ... generally yes. They created ... But if, in truth, they partially stole from the USSR elements of the technology for manufacturing the bomb. In the form of layouts and drawings. And the construction of nuclear power plants, as said above, has yielded results. You can say with the world a string gathered a bomb.

[Gemar]

In 1956, unrest began in Poland and Hungary, and Khrushchev, in need of political support from Mao, went on expanding cooperation with China. In addition, when in September 1957 the Chinese delegation went to the capital of the USSR for negotiations, Khrushchev had just won the internal party battle over Molotov and his supporters, so he wanted Mao Zedong to personally take part in the meeting of communist and workers parties in 1957 in Moscow. Khrushchev wanted success in relations with China to strengthen his position in the USSR. The Great Helmsman skillfully used this situation. Mao said that he would come to the Soviet Union only after signing a military-technical agreement, including the transfer to China of materials and samples for the production of atomic weapons and their delivery vehicles. So, China gained access to the Soviet technologies necessary for the creation of AO and nuclear weapons.

That's how the Chinese got technology. I want to note that Chinese scientists studying abroad made a huge contribution to the creation.
And yet ... These bastards, having received the secret of AO and the documentation for R-2, said that the USSR did not want to share advanced developments (R-5M and the first intercontinental R-7). The PRC said that the reluctance to share technology in no way contributes to maintaining the friendship of our peoples. THERE IS IT - CHINESE THANKS!
Therefore, I wish China and Japan a long and exhausting war. With the gravest consequences for both China and Japan, and for the United States.
GLORY TO RUSSIA!

[Arkan]

Ataturk,
You will be surprised, but the Chinese created their own nuclear weapons. The USSR flatly refused to help them in this, and this became the reason for the sharp "cooling" of relations between the USSR and China.

[Wedmak]

Not really. The Chinese nevertheless begged some parts of the technology from Khrushchev. But we refused to give them the R-7 and the complete materials on the assembly of the bomb, so the Chinese were "offended."

[anfreezer]

The Chinese are masters of kites ... Let him attach their Chinese mobile phone with a video camera and control it ..

[Trailer]

Original-design Chinese drones are getting ready to take off!

[lelikas]

Rzhaka but The UAV database system is planned to be created by 2015-
- they are copying us here too - we are all creating by the 20th year, they are by the 15th year
though for some reason they believe more

[ShturmKGB]

The conflict is beneficial to the United States, part of China’s forces to be pulled away from the Pacific region where the United States dominates and China claims ...

[Wedmak]

How many forces China will draw on two small stones in the ocean. It is with him then the sun.

[Michael-rl]

Japan has a strong Navy and good maritime traditions. China will not be able to defeat the Japanese at sea, and accordingly it will not be able to land with the Japanese either. There will be a long protracted war at sea, where I put on the Japanese.

[JackTheRipper]

The Chinese are fanatical, I bet on the Chinese

[Gemar]

Quote: Michael-rl

I put on the Japanese

Quote: JackTheRipper

I bet on the Chinese

Military review fit to open the bookmaker.
Ratio on Japan: 1,33
Ratio on China: 1,48

[Arkan]

Why should the Chinese land in Japan? It is enough for them to bombard the Japanese islands with missiles from the mainland, I will only have to try to counteract this to the Japanese fleet (and there are great doubts that Japan will not be able to wage this protracted war on its own, since its inception, all of Japan will be almost completely dependent on supplies from the United States, but then everything will depend on what the United States considers to be more profitable: to bargain on any issue with China, or to achieve something else from Japan ... Well but in general - I am for the Chinese. These are their islands!

[Gemar]

Quote: Arkan

But in general - I am for the Chinese. These are their islands!

In vain you are for the Chinese ... Then they completely cut through. As the Kuril Islands passed to us according to the results of the Second World War, so Senkakku went to Japan according to the results of the Second World War. Read the following:
The solution of the problem of ownership of the Ussuri region by Russia was entrusted to the special envoy Nikolai Pavlovich Ignatiev. During this period, China was defeated by England, France and the United States in the second opium war of 1856-1860, there was a fierce peasant war in the country (Taiping uprising of 1850 — 1864). The Qing court fled from the capital of the country, and Prince Gong was left to negotiate with the winners. He applied for mediation to the representative of Russia. Skillfully playing on the contradictions between the British, French and Americans in China, as well as on the fear of the Qing dynasty, Nikolai Ignatiev achieved a truce and refusal of the command of the British-French Expeditionary Force from the storming of the Chinese capital. Considering the services rendered by the Russian envoy in resolving the war with the Europeans, the Qins agreed to meet the demands for the full transfer of the Russian Empire to the Ussuri region. November 2 The 1860 of the Year was signed by the Beijing Treaty. He established the final border between China and Russia in the Amur region, Primorye and to the west of Mongolia.

It's not even an hour, the Chinese will demand this territory back from us, so to speak, to restore "historical justice".

[Arkan]

Quote: Gamar

Then they’ll completely cut through

If the Japanese can defend these islands with "little blood" (or no blood at all), a precedent will be created when the Japanese themselves will decide the outcome of which war is fair and which is not based on what they like, spitting on all existing agreements For example, those islands that Japan disputes from Russia were also once captured by the Japanese, and returned to Russia only thanks to the Soviet soldiers who liberated them, but the Chinese were not lucky - their islands were "liberated" by the Americans. Can you imagine what kind of enthusiasm the Japanese will have towards to the Kuriles in case of success with the Diaoyu? It seems to me that it will be easier for Russia to reach an agreement with China, especially since it is not an ally of the United States.

[Gemar]

Quote: Arkan

Can you imagine what kind of enthusiasm the Japanese will have towards the Kuril Islands if they succeed with Diaoyu

Here you are right. + The victory of the Japanese side will certainly lead to the desire to chop off the Kuril Islands. However, look at how the Chinese agree - RETURN TO US AND EVERYTHING (their position is no different from that of China on Damansky)!
If the PRC wins or Japan wins, we will surely face the problem of territorial integrity. That China has both declared claims (part of Altai) and hidden (even the Great Helmsman stated that everything to the Urals is Chinese), that Japan (Kuriles and Sakhalin, respectively). Therefore, once again I wish them to mutually sink each other's fleet. And the PRC to inflict a missile (not nuclear) strike on the territory of Japan, which may lead to universal censure and international economic sanctions. In short, let the "friends" decay, but we grow stronger. Of course it is a pity for people, but the good memory of our ancestors, who staked out the present territory for Russia, is even more pity!

[Arkan]

Quote: Gamar

However, see how the Chinese agree - BACK TO US AND EVERYTHING

Let's try to put ourselves in their place and figure out the reasons for such a question: Imagine that you gave someone something for rent (subject to all necessary legal actions), the lease has expired ... but your property will not be returned to you. How it will take you a lot of time to make sure that to prove to the swindler that he is a swindler is a rather hopeless activity? Surely you will look for another way to solve the problem. The Chinese are doing the same, but unlike the Japanese (by the logic of which Japan can somehow claim to those territories where Japanese troops once visited) their requirements have at least some (albeit controversial) legality.

[Arkan]

Quote: Gamar

That China has both declared claims (part of Altai) and hidden (even the Great Helmsman stated that everything to the Urals is Chinese), that Japan (the Kuril Islands and Sakhalin, respectively)

Russia benefits from the litter of the United States and China, China wanted to observe the litter of the United States and Russia, and the United States, respectively, wants everyone and everything. Such is life))). These "claims" sometimes appear on Chinese (and in Russian) forums, and judging by the comments to Again, not so long ago, after the death of employees of the Chinese embassy in Yugoslavia, the Chinese staged a massive hunt for American citizens (the United States had to agree to China's entry into the WTO in order to calm them down, But mass beatings of Russians in China are not observed). Although of course yes - if they feel weak, they will definitely trample them (like any others). According to their laws, the beating of a Chinese person (not necessarily a Chinese citizen, but exactly any Chinese. That is how they started the war with Vietnam). Considering the number of Chinese who are annually beaten in Russia, they will always have a reason, regardless of some disputed territories))).

[Arkan]

Quote: Gamar

Therefore, once again I wish them to mutually sink each other's fleet

But this - it would be weird! But here, as they say: hope in God - but don’t be a fan yourself! You can’t let it drift.

[Gemar]

Since China did not lease the Diaoyu Island, it lost them as a result of the war, to review the results of which is a scammers' favorite pastime. Now I’ll start to declare that Sevastopol is an original Russian city founded by Ekatrina. And it must be returned to restore historical justice. Do you have many arguments against it right away?
I have lived in China for most of my conscious life and I know that give China a finger - it will bite off a hand to the elbow. Every day I was reminded that Vladivostok (Hayshenvay according to their 海参崴 - Trepangov Bay) would need to be returned. They said that this is originally Chinese territory. But this is not so, it is the original territory of golds, orcs, orcs and Koreans. But China does not care, he has big ambitions. In China, nationalist sentiment is now thriving. If you are interested, look in the internet for a book by the famous author Song Jiang. In China, this book is rightfully considered a bestseller and officially supported by the CCP. So in this book it is clearly indicated - if China does not want to become smaller, it simply needs to become larger at the expense of Russia.

Quote: Arkan

Chinese, but unlike the Japanese (according to the logic of which Japan can somehow claim to those territories on which the Japanese troops once visited) their requirements have at least some (albeit controversial) legality

China agreed with Japan's jurisdiction over Fr. Diaoyudao until hydrocarbons were discovered on the shelf. There is cynicism in China.
With respect.
GLORY TO RUSSIA!

[Arkan]

Quote: Gamar

So China did not lease the Diaoyu Island

For example, I cited Taiwan (sorry I didn’t indicate this right away), most of the disputes with the West were in China because of this island, and thanks to it, China realized that there was no point in arguing. Returning Diaoyudao for them has never really been a priority, but they didn’t refuse it. Well, the fact that China is not viable within its borders is a fact, but somehow I can’t believe that China will choose the path of suicide from all possible directions of expansion. For such a step (even if we assume that China is already It has no technological dependence on Russia), at a minimum, it needs a strong alliance with the West. What is not observed. With respect.

[Oleg14774]

Japan is once again becoming a bargaining chip in the Anglo-Saxon games. History has not taught them (the Japanese) anything. But the experience is rich, even with the Russian-Japanese! China is not the same! I think that the Chinese will do everything to put the Japanese in their place. And what they wrote about "economic" mutual benefits is all nonsense in the light of the possession of such reserves of natural resources. Here they will avenge the Japanese and take resources for centuries of humiliation and show who is the boss. In this case, it is more safe for the Japanese to wipe themselves off and give up the islands. They will not overpower China, and the amers will not stick their heads, they will only supply the Japs and make money on it, or even the Chinese into Chihars.

[Wedmak]

And yet, if a squabble rises around Russia, it will be bad ... China vs Japan, Iran in the Caspian, Uzbekistan will smack some crap, the Caucasus is still trying to shake, suddenly the crisis in Europe - the eurozone is falling apart however .... smell ... haze pulled ....