The first serial Rafale radar with AFAR

5 September 2012 at the factory aerodrome of the French company Dassault Aviation in Merignac made the first flight of the first built for the French Air Force serial fighter Dassault Rafale, equipped with an onboard radar with an active phased antenna array (AFAR) Thales RBE2-AESA. The Rafale C Series F3 has the serial number С137 and is the first machine of the so-called "fourth tranche" (F30-04T). The first serial radar RBE2-AESA, installed on this aircraft, was delivered to the Thales group in Merignac in February 2012 of the year. Previously, Thales manufactured three prototypes of the RBE2-AESA radar with AFAR (sometimes referred to as RBE2-AA) and underwent flight tests on Dassault Mystere XX test aircraft (104 serial number) and Dassault Mirage 2000B test aircraft (B501 serialized aircraft) and in a reconfigured plane 1B (B02), which is also used in a way out of the device, and it is used in a way, it is also used in a way out of the device, it is also used in a way out of the device, it is also used in the way of the body, it is also used in a way, it is a way of the body, it is also used in the way of the body, it is also used in the way of the body, it is also used in the way of the body, it is also used in the way of the body, and the body of the body of the device, which is used in the way of the body of the body of the gun, of the body of the radar XEXUMX) fighter Rafale M series FXNUMX (serial number MXNUMX).

Along with the RBE2-AESA radar, the Rafale C137 is also equipped with two other new systems defining the F30-04T variant - the MBDA DDM-NG infrared warning system for missile launches and the modified passive opto-electronic detection system Thales / Sagem OSF-IT. Upon completion of factory testing, the C137 aircraft at the end of September 2012 should be transferred to the CEAM Flight Test Center of the French Air Force CEAM (Center d'Expériences Aériennes Militaires) in Mont-de-Marsan (B118 airbase), where the extended test program will be held throughout 18 months.

Comments

[spender]

Gradually, all countries begin to use modern technology, who previously discovered behind it the advantage, and with good missiles, victory

[Mozart]

The French were not lagging behind.

[Slayer]

Quote: Mozart

The French were not lagging behind.

Well, in Libya Obo..but when they knocked them rafael with a simple needle))

[aksakal]

Quote: Slayer

Well, in Libya Obo..but when they knocked them rafael with a simple needle))

- I don’t remember such episodes. Can you link? At least in hindsight, to be glad that they did not manage to crush Libya completely "for nothing."
And the French fighters even among the Jews showed themselves well in all these conflicts. The only question is, do they have a future?
I have a feeling that the days of the French and Swedes ("Gripen") are numbered. They will have to wind up their extermination business. Do not take.
Boeing with all this shobla (Lockheeds, Northrops and other shushera), ЕАDS with Eurofighter, Sukhoi will leave and a new player from China will appear. For RSK MiG - not sure.
All this is my opinion. Glad to hear.

[Slayer]

Quote: aksakal

- I don’t remember such episodes. Can you link? At least in hindsight, to be glad that they did not manage to crush Libya completely "for nothing."

Look in YouTube, there are a lot of vidyushkas like from dzhigits (soldering needles) and Fki and rafael are knocked down))

[Alexander Romanov]

What is this video and where is it actually shot?

[Slayer]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

What is this video and where is it actually shot?

Libya, Gaddafi's army shot down a NATO plane

[Windbreak]

Quote: Slayer

Look in YouTube, there are a lot of vidyushkas like from dzhigits (soldering needles) and Fki and rafael are knocked down))

The mirage was also allegedly shot down, but in reality the Soviet fighter

[Tjumenec72]

aksakal Gripena and Raphael have a direct road to EADS. In such cooperation, there is at least a chance to keep the production capacity at home, and if you're lucky, then the design bureau (only for "servicing" the fighter already).

[Pimply]

Rafal managed to push the Indians. Gripen also quite understand

[Tjumenec72]

There is still a question with rafal, and the demand for flu is not great ...

[Pimply]

Yes there is no question there with Rafal, it has already been discussed.
Pushed. The operation in Libya, by the way, helped in this.

Gripen is a perfectly acceptable demand, especially now, given the military cuts in European countries, it will do.

[Tjumenec72]

spring will show who shit where)))

[Ataturk]

Quote: spender

Gradually, all countries begin to use modern technology, who previously discovered behind it the advantage, and with good missiles, victory

Well, they are still far from the Russian Mig and Su. In general, the Soviet school of aviation and tank building was the best in the world.

Believe me, there is reason for pride. And now, modern flashes and drying, headaches to Western counterparts will arrange so that life does not seem raspberry.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: Ataturk

Well, before the Russian MiG and Su they are still far away

Well, how to say ... Soo is certainly stronger, but with Mig th is quite on the level

[tronin.maxim]

Quote: Ataturk

Well, they are still far from the Russian Mig and Su.

Here's the info for a moment: http://epaulets.ru/newsweb/Orujie/Uspeshno-proshli-ispytanija-bortovoi-RLS-Mig-3
5-s-aktivnoi-fazirovannoi-antennoi-reshetkoi / related_links

[Ataturk]

Quote: tronin.maxim

Here's the info for a moment: http://epaulets.ru/newsweb/Orujie/Uspeshno-proshli-ispytanija-bortovoi-RLS-Mig-3

5-s-aktivnoi-fazirovannoi-antennoi-reshetkoi / related_links

Thanks, I'll go read.

[VAF]

Quote: Ataturk

Well, before the Russian MiG and Su they are still far away

Dear Omar. I will disappoint you, +!

Because an airplane is a COMPLEX and it should be considered only as a complex. and not only for flight capabilities at demonstration performances, when he flies on a "bucket of kerosene" and as a result of this shows such things. from which our audience "squeaks" with delight!

I dare to remind you that on the most modern aircraft MiG-29SMT, 80% of all avionics are Israeli and French systems, and missiles ... the same ... "foreign"!

And all Su-27 and Su-30 "going over the hill" undergo such an upgrade that only the glider and engines remain from ours!

The fact that the school in the USSR was, of course, but on electronics ... about electronic warfare in general ... I will stupidly keep silent, since there are none ..., some floodlights and talk!

Quote: Ataturk

And now, modern flashes and drying, headaches to Western counterparts will arrange so that life does not seem raspberry.

I agree here, but not due to technical superiority, but due to the fact that Russian pilots will pilot!

[with]

Quote: vaf

Because an airplane is a COMPLEX and it should be considered only as a complex. and not only for flight capabilities at demonstration performances, when he flies on a "bucket of kerosene" and as a result of this shows such things. from which our audience "squeaks" with delight!

Everything is DRILLING !!!
Let me ask will be interested in?
Would you like our audience to "squeak" from NOT OUR aircraft ??
In my opinion you are an ALARMIST!
Believe me, sometimes I also cry out completely, but my eyes are afraid, but my hands do !!!
Stop, just please, stop "lowering" our aviation !!!
Or did I misunderstand you?

[Gemar]

The veteran does not lower our aircraft. The WAF is also happy for our aviation. He really states the fact. Read the complete set of export Su-30. Yes, our planes are the best in terms of price / quality. But the 90s did their job. Weapons of electronic warfare are far from the highest level, because elementary base stuck somewhere in the 80-90s. This does not mean that in the first battle our Sushki and MiGs will be defeated. But do you think the Hindus, the Chinese, the Malays and the Vietnamese would start putting stuffing in the production of the NATO countries and Israel if ours were better?

Quote: met

Would you like our audience to "squeak" from NOT OUR aircraft?

God forbid.
I wish the PAK FA to refute my statement.
Py.SY. Odobryamsiki and Urya-patriots (just PATRIOT - a sacred word for me) do not agree with me, I suggest, minus - a red arrow in the upper right corner.

Dear Met, do not take the above "urya" into your account. You at least openly express your disagreement, but many will simply neglect, frowning at the statement that our planes are not the best in everything. Yes, our planes are the best. And in the complex "plane + pilot + patriotism + our truth" will give heat to any aggressor. However, the electronics on them are not a fountain yet. Therefore, we have to cooperate with France and Israel.

[Gemar]

Therefore, we have to cooperate with France and Israel.

[Pimply]

Totally agree

[VAF]

Quote: met

Stop, just please, stop "lowering" our aviation !!!

How do I "lower" our aviation? The fact that we have very good gliders and very good engines?

Quote: met

Believe me, sometimes I shout too

Where did you read. that everything was gone? Do and did. but this either doesn’t reach the troops or they put forward an open initiative of your way Taburetkin .....

Quote: met

In my opinion you are an ALARMIST!

Please clarify. What kind of term is this? Buried too deep!

Quote: met

Would you like our audience to "squeak" from NOT OUR aircraft ??

Why not squeak. for this she and the public, to squeak. but there is such a category of people .... the military is called. can you hear? so the military wants to. so that they are already supplied with something modern. so that you can successfully defend your homeland with the greatest damage to the enemy. and not repeat the feat of Alexander Matrosov and the cruiser Vapryag!

Clearly explained or even more profitable?

Quote: met

Everything is DRILLING !!!

a contrast shower helps a lot ... highly recommend it!

[Ataturk]

Quote: vaf

and due to the fact that Russian pilots will pilot!

A very interesting conclusion. Of course, the pilots have limited opportunities, but I think, no matter what the ass would be at the helm of say this plane

and behind this a freshly squeezed graduate of a flight school, at the controls of this aircraft

That ass, a pro pilot at the first instant will arrange a cardabalet to the 2nd?
Well, I understand that a lot of things depend on the pilot, but we must not forget the advantage of the aircraft as well.

Or am I wrong?

[VAF]

Quote: Ataturk

That ass, a pro pilot at the first instant will arrange a cardabalet to the 2nd?
Well, I understand that a lot of things depend on the pilot, but we must not forget the advantage of the aircraft as well.

Dear Omar, here you yourself have answered your question completely!

COMPLEX decides everything, not the best plane or not the best!

on Hornets AFAR has long been standing. Now they are going to stick on the Eagle and will do it as soon as possible.

Well, your photo from the MiG-35. I repeat. that it’s only a demonstrator, released in 1996, but there are already two Mi-29M2s flying on the Cadex and the same for the 100th anniversary of the Air Force ..... and that’s it !!!!

Let's live somehow realities, and then an interesting position with the approvers (I don’t take you) is going to be fought so it’s almost tomorrow (the enemy is at the gates), but modern weapons are only in plans for .... the eleventh year ??? ?

Where we already went through this, don’t remember ??????

[Wedmak]

Interestingly, the French, like us, are happy - "And more, more!" ?

[Joker]

I think yes

[VAF]

Quote: Wedmak

Interestingly, the French, like us, are happy - "And more, more!"

Of course they are happy. Only unlike us, the French will release and equip, but with us ??????

everything can end as always .... talkatively!

Take an interest in what year the MIG-35 demonstrator, which D, already stood AFAR and shot successfully, and now what year ????

Here is the answer to your question, +!

[Gemar]

Quote: vaf

everything can end as always .... talkatively!

Tipun to your tongue.

Quote: vaf

on the demonstrator Mig-35

He will remain a demonstrator for the campaign (here I have a tip in the tongue ).
But it would be (albeit not the fifth generation) an excellent response to the F-35. Moreover, it is significantly unified with the Mig-29K (all systems are duplicated, have the ability to run a system test without turning on the engines, greater autonomy, anti-corrosion coating) only avionics (BTsVM, AFAR, advanced passive protection) and engines (more powerful, more reliable, but smokeless) differ . Consequently, the MiG-35D will make a deck for Kuznetsov. Let the Mig-35D not go into production, but the deck version of it will be one hundred percent!

[VAF]

Quote: Gamar

Tipun to your tongue.

Eh ... if that helped !! +! But there are just so many examples of this ... affair that ..... I doubt however!
One hope for the Kazakhs and the Hindus!

Quote: Gamar

But it would be (albeit not the fifth generation) an excellent response to the F-35. Moreover, it is significantly unified with the Mig-29K (all systems are duplicated, have the ability to run a system test without turning on the engines, greater autonomy, anti-corrosion coating) only avionics (BTsVM, AFAR, advanced passive protection) and engines (more powerful, more reliable, but smokeless) differ .

The Mig-29M / M2 (Mig-35 / 35D) is in many ways superior to the F-35-q, if released in the form in which it was ready in 2006.

Even the "vaunted" Su-27SM (2 and 3) would not stand next to it, but ........ this is notorious but also interferes. only to whom .. this question is no longer for me. and to the "uryapatriots", but for some reason they do not want to answer this question!

Quote: Gamar

Consequently, the MiG-35D will make a deck for Kuznetsov. Let the Mig-35D not go into production, but the deck version of it will be one hundred percent!

A little bit wrong. but this is not critical ..... and still CUBs are already doing it, but M / M2 .. for now .. no!

[Gemar]

Quote: vaf

The Mig-29M / M2 (Mig-35 / 35D) is in many ways superior to the F-35-q, if released in the form in which it was ready in 2006.

Maybe I misunderstand you ... The concept of using the F-22 complex along with the F-35 eliminates the MiG’s advantage in thrust-weight ratio and maneuverability (the MiG still sees 120 km., If I’m not mistaken, but unfortunately I don’t know the F-35, but I think more. Plus, Fu AFAR can communicate with other aircraft). It is clear that one on one, these aircraft are unlikely to meet in the BVB. For the F-35, this will be the last battle knock down the American. UWB immediately planned to make an inconspicuous IS for DVB and work on the surface (and therefore weapons in the internal compartment). AWAC with F-35 - MANDATORY! No fool would go to intercept the MiG or Sushka without 100 km of action missiles (this fool would not care if the MiG had an ATS or not, with or without it, the MiG would maneuver it anyway). The Americans emphasized stealth, the ability to work efficiently at night (with the ability to select moving targets), vertical landing and flight efficiency.
In my opinion, in 2006 the F-35 was considered more promising than it is now, because After the very first strength tests of the airframe, numerous shortcomings were revealed. Amers had to make the design heavier, and change the aluminum parts to titanium. Those. requirements for thrust-weight ratio, resource and price decreased to the 4 ++ generation.
Plus Miga is that in the conflict of small / poor countries against the F-35, he has a great chance to meet with the Fu-35 in close air combat and win (99% chance). Therefore, the competitiveness in the arms market of our MiG is an order of magnitude higher.
The downside is that he is not yet in the army.

[Gemar]

Quote: Gamar

MiG still sees 120 km., if I’m not mistaken,

Well, I definitely made a mistake ... At 150 km. sees with EPR = 3 sq.m. For 250 targets like a destroyer. Developments are underway to increase the detection range of air targets by 200 km. So the above described by me is complete nonsense, IF will be brought to two hundred. Then exactly the chances of the Fu-35 will not. It remains for the Americans to bomb the Papuans with precision weapons, but not to participate in the battle against Mig.

[VAF]

Quote: Gamar

Well, I definitely made a mistake ...

But already someone stuck a minus ...... maybe by mistake? Now I will correct +!
And then such a dialogue .... or rather the picture of the dialogue .. messed up ... +!

[VAF]

Quote: Gamar

Maybe I misunderstand you ...

Dear Gamar, most likely the opposite. I am not expressing it very correctly. constantly forget. what is for me ... daily bread, so to speak. but for everyone ... a lot of new things.

What are the advantages of the Mig-29th? (Immediately I’m going to write just 29. but assuming that we are talking for Mig-29M (Mig-35)) !::

1. two propulsion scheme, then everything should be clear ....

2. Much more weapons, because you will agree .... two 1000 pound bombs in g / o .. a bit small for information security? Everything else hangs comfortably ... as a result of this we remove the issue of stealth technology, the same is clear.

3. Our Zhuk-AE was already fully tested by 2006 and confirmed its characteristics, on the amer of refinement the same .. continue!

4. Possibilities for the detection range here simply are not correctly expressed in the data. it directly depends on the type of target, its dimension, contrast, surface ... on which the target is located, etc. therefore, your data is almost correct ... 130 km in the teaching staff with a target ERP of 0.1 sq.m.

5. And here we have 29 here it is a truly multi-functional fighter, which without tension performs the functions of gaining superiority in the air, well, the work on the ground, by the way, is one of two, or rather, now it is already one of three aircraft capable of using all PKU of the Caliber and X family -31.

6. Our glider has become many times more composite, has suffered very significant changes in the aerodynamic layout.

Therefore, I also did not understand why you do not agree with my phrase. Where I wrote that the Mig-29M / M2 (Mig-35 / 35D) is in many ways superior to the F-35th, but now I realized that I wrote in mind. what at that moment, i.e. in 2006, our MiG was ready for the practical implementation of all tasks and could be fully put into production, but now it’s almost the 13th year and there are a lot of new and interesting things. what more could be put on it!

Yes, Miga AFAR is all-round, so there is a special need for communication with other sides ..... well, in practice .. you just don’t have time for all this information ..... checked! +!

[Gemar]

Quote: vaf

. two propulsion scheme, then everything should be clear ....

Survivability, maneuverability (application of traction capture). Well, it's hard not to be bothered, even by such an amateur like me.

Quote: vaf

two 1000 pound bombs in g / o .. a little small for information security? Everything else hangs comfortably ... as a result of this we remove the issue of stealth technology, the same is clear.

I did not pay attention to such an important characteristic as the payload - a shame on me as an aviation enthusiast

Quote: vaf

Yes, Miga AFAR is all-aspect, so there is a special need for communication with other sides

Well ... if only in the future control of drones (again my amateurish opinion).

Quote: vaf

you just can't keep up with all this information

But what about artificial intelligence and high automation?

Quote: vaf

Well, now it's almost the 13th year and there are a lot of new and interesting things. what more could be put on it!

Undoubtedly! +
And so, it is very pleasant when it turns out that he underestimated the technology of the domestic MiG RAC. Seriously, I thought that only heavy Dryers could compete with the F-35!

Thanks for the consultation"! +
GLORY TO RUSSIA!

[VAF]

[quote = Gemar] Thanks for the "consultation"! [/ quote]

How can I, +!


[quote = Gamar] GLORY OF RUSSIA! [/ quote

Glory to the Russian Air Force It will be more accurate ... for this topic, which we discussed

[Pimply]

And again caps went into battle

[Odessa]

Pimply,

And again caps went into battle

Maybe swords? That's the way sometimes, we write comments.

[Pimply]

I'm in the house. The promised article was uploaded, gmar hachima tova, dear

[Odessa]

Pimply,

The promised article posted

I saw it, even very interesting, but there’s practically nothing to comment on after such work. Reposted to the forum, in body armor.

gmar hatima tova dear

Thank you, sun, and you gmar hachima ahi tova!

[yanus]

Shkolota can and screams - more !!!
And normal people look with irritation at where their taxes go. They know you pay them and far from 13%

[Tjumenec72]

All the same, rafal is much cheaper than the Fu-35, so money is considered.

[Windbreak]

Not much cheaper actually

[ShturmKGB]

The French are one of the few NATO countries that have always tried to be independent in politics and in the army. The USA technique was simply imposed on many ...

[Tjumenec72]

The French from 1996 to 2009 were not listed as "active" members of non-NASHO.
Sarkozy fussed - restored justice)

[Gemar]

ShturmKGB

always tried to be independent in politics and in the army

Right! +++
For this, they should be grateful to Charles de Gaulle.

ShturmKGB

The French are one of the few NATO countries

France is one of the 12 founding countries of NATO, but withdrew from the NATO military organization in 1966. Only in 2009 did President Nicolas Sarkozy return the country to full participation in NATO. Before that, I respected the French - after all, one of the three countries that can build advanced aircraft turbojet engines.
By the way, Spain in 2001 also withdrew from NATO. And in the course of going back is not going to.

[Andrey_K]

It seems to me that now the main advantage of this or that radar is its resistance to interference.
He who blinds other people's radars and remains sighted himself will bring down all enemy planes.
Modern aircraft must be equipped with powerful electromagnetic guns, by the way, it is possible to suppress the electronics of guiding air defense missiles - then they will not be able to visit the plane.

And the air battle will look like this: three planes versus two: three planes focuses their electromagnetic weapons on one of the two and blinds his radar, after which he becomes an easy victim of an air-to-air missile, then, jointly fighting off the missiles of the second plane, they finish it off .

And if there are five against three, then just as five knocks down the three.

[gregor6549]

Actually, radars with an active phased array antenna (AFAR) appeared 30 years ago. and, like all radars, have their advantages and disadvantages. For details, please visit http://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_phased_antenna_grid.
In the West, the leaders in the development of aircraft radars with AFAR are Northrop Grumman, Raytheon Thales Group, Bofors Saab.
In terms of performance characteristics, Russian models of such radars are not inferior to Western ones. But with the serial production of these things are worse
The problem, as always, rests in technology and ensuring the quality of manufacturing of the AFAR element base i.e. micromodules of the microwave from which the AFAR is collected. In this regard (production technology and quality of modules) of the Western companies listed above there are no problems that can not be said about Russian companies. So it turns out that the experimental and prototypes of Russian radars with AFAR receive the most excellent marks, and as it comes to their serial production, the enthusiasm somehow fades away when faced with the realities of this very production.