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The collision that led to the sinking of the Norwegian frigate Helge Ingstad, the owner of the tanker will pay about $ 26 million

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On the night of November 8, 2018, the Norwegian frigate fleet KNM Helge Ingstad (in service since 2009), on alert, collided with an oil tanker. The crew brought the seriously damaged ship into shallow water, which subsequently sank, was raised to the surface and, after examination, sent for scrap.


Since then, litigation has been ongoing, which has only now come to its finale. The owner of the tanker, Sola TS, entered into a settlement agreement with the authorities, according to which the state will receive 235 million crowns (about $26 million) from the defendant.

The Ministry of Defense is satisfied that the case is closed with a good result for the state. The military department does not want to comment on this issue anymore.

- said in the Ministry of Defense on February 7.

Meanwhile, their calculations of the “benefit” received by the state as a result of the consideration of the claim are given in the Norwegian press.

The accident cost the state dearly. A new similar frigate will cost from 11 to 13 billion crowns (about 1,5 billion US dollars)

- is indicated in the TU publication, explaining that only the rise of the frigate to the surface lasted three and a half months, and the final amount spent on this operation amounted to 765 million crowns.

Thus, the proceeds from the defendant will not be enough for a tenth of the new frigate.

The accident described occurred against the background of increased activity of the Norwegian Navy, which was intensively looking for Russian submarines in their waters.

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  1. Thrifty
    Thrifty 10 February 2022 19: 05
    +21
    We rent a tanker with a crew! Let them continue to sink their frigates during the exercises of the NATO fleets in the Baltic - for a $ 23 million fine, it's worth it !!! wassat Russia will pay for the sinking of a couple of dozen frigates and destroyers at this rate. For the last more than 30 million dollars, we will not pay a fine!!! wassat
    1. Alien From
      Alien From 10 February 2022 19: 12
      +6
      Gold words! Not at all expensive at military prices drinks
    2. knn54
      knn54 10 February 2022 19: 37
      +7
      A smart lawyer would write it off as stealth technology.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 10 February 2022 20: 27
        +9
        The owner of the Sola ST tanker has very powerful lawyers. Judging by the amount of damages to be compensated, minus the painting and the piece of iron that guides the anchor and the anchor itself. their fault would be zero. And so the Sola ST tanker is ready for battle. It is standing on the Roterdam line to Norway. But shouldn’t we take a swing at the classics, Truman himself. Moreover, the Americans themselves admit that they have a mess in the fleet.

    3. Keyser soze
      Keyser soze 10 February 2022 19: 44
      -17
      We rent a tanker with a crew!

      You have a crew - the one that drowned the PD 50, which you will take out any hour ... They immediately swung at the aircraft carrier, so there is experience.
      And I thought that no one would make fun of the Norgs, since they took out their frigate, despite the costs and found the culprit, in contrast to you. But no, we do not see the beam in our own eyes.

      According to the article - the author .... what kind of frigate costs 1,5 billion? What nonsense ... Fridtjof Nansen class from Navantia is exactly three times cheaper. Complete nonsense....
      1. Motorist
        Motorist 10 February 2022 20: 13
        +6
        Quote: Keyser Soze
        And I thought that no one would joke about norgs

        Why not make fun of them?! A lot of people on the bridge, and no one hears their names. And they don’t see the tanker - neither on radars, nor on AIS, nor with their eyes!
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 10 February 2022 20: 53
          +15
          We walked past this terminal in Bergen ten times on our fisherman, comparable in size to this destroyer, but not to see an Afromax-class tanker all in searchlights? I don’t know what they were doing there on the bridge?
          1. Motorist
            Motorist 10 February 2022 20: 59
            +4
            Quote: tralflot1832
            not to see an Afromax-class tanker all in searchlights?

            There is also a tug behind him for animation. They will recruit infantry for the fleet, damn it!
            1. tralflot1832
              tralflot1832 10 February 2022 21: 13
              +1
              I specially climbed onto the marine traffic, that's how not to disperse here. Above in the left corner, the norgs are dragging a drilling rig. And they will pass without problems.
              1. Motorist
                Motorist 10 February 2022 21: 20
                +4
                Quote: tralflot1832
                the norgs are dragging the drilling rig. And after all, they will pass without problems

                ... if the frigate does not meet with a politically correct watch on the bridge ...
        2. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 10 February 2022 21: 51
          +5
          Quote: Motorist
          Quote: Keyser Soze
          And I thought that no one would joke about norgs

          Why not make fun of them?! A lot of people on the bridge, and no one hears their names. And they don’t see the tanker - neither on radars, nor on AIS, nor with their eyes!

          I remember they said that there the mattress "sea wolf" led the search, and because of his commands, the frigate flew into the tanker, because it stumbled across the course, which is shown in the video. Well, for obvious reasons, mattresses cannot be guilty, and therefore, apparently, the shipowner of the tanker was taken by the Adam's apple and "convinced" to admit his guilt so as not to fall under any sanctions. With them, "honest and decent" will become.
          1. Motorist
            Motorist 10 February 2022 22: 02
            +3
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            the shipowner of the tanker was taken by the Adam's apple and "convinced" to admit his guilt

            So he got off easy (whether?)! Well, for sure - based on a joke about the six hundredth and the skating rink, which lopuhan2006 mentioned below ...
          2. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 11 February 2022 04: 17
            0
            There was no American on the bridge. When ships collide, there is rarely one person to blame. Both are to blame, one where he went, the second why he didn’t stop in front of the dam or didn’t dodge it. .
            1. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 11 February 2022 09: 14
              0
              Quote: tralflot1832
              There was no American on the bridge. When ships collide, there is rarely one person to blame. Both are to blame, one where he went, the second why he didn’t stop in front of the dam or didn’t dodge it. .
              I won’t insist, I myself wasn’t there, and therefore I wrote in such a way that “I remember they said”, but traces of conversations can be seen here -
              https://riafan.ru/1124287-dostazhirovalsya-v-prichastnosti-k-gibeli-fregata-nato-podozrevayut-oficera-vms-ssha
              1. tralflot1832
                tralflot1832 11 February 2022 09: 36
                0
                I'll try to throw you a blogger from Sevastopol, a former military sailor, he was an adviser in Libya under Gaddafi. An excellent analysis of this flight, intelligibly and with humor.
        3. Starover_Z
          Starover_Z 11 February 2022 00: 27
          +1
          Quote: Motorist
          Why not make fun of them?! A lot of people on the bridge, and no one hears their names. And they don’t see the tanker - neither on radars, nor on AIS, nor with their eyes!

          Judging by the video, well, not directly frigate of the Norwegian Navy KNM Helge Ingstad, and the modern Titanic-2 - the damage was recalled.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 10 February 2022 23: 42
        +2
        Quote: Keyser Soze
        And I thought that no one would make fun of the Norgs, since they took out their frigate, despite the costs and found the culprit, in contrast to you.

        Norwegian fishermen, merchant seamen, pilots are some of the best in the world, worked with them for a long time. Navy sailors are always a danger to the commercial and fishing fleets.
        The guilt of the frigate commander is even visible on the video. It does not happen in the Navy that one is 100% guilty and completely innocent. With a frigate price of 500 million (build), the losses paid by the shipowner of the tanker are quite acceptable. No one has the right to blame the sailors who roamed the seas will never do this, we all sailors can be in such a situation, and many have been in such situations.
      3. Moore
        Moore 11 February 2022 04: 19
        +2
        Quote: Keyser Soze
        You have a crew - the one that drowned the PD 50, which you will take out any hour ... They immediately swung at the aircraft carrier, so there is experience.

        "Brothers", when you change sides again, do not forget to rub your fabrications ..
        Quote: Keyser Soze
        According to the article - the author .... what kind of frigate costs 1,5 billion? What nonsense ... Fridtjof Nansen class from Navantia is exactly three times cheaper. Complete nonsense....

        Not quite complete. The frigate cost half a yard of raccoons as part of a series of five vessels. How much they will ask for one - now no one will say. But this is clearly not the same price.
    4. Andrey Chizhevsky
      Andrey Chizhevsky 10 February 2022 20: 07
      0
      You have an excellent nickname - and you offer a tanker for rent. I believe that awarding the tanker crew with orders and medals is more economical))) laughing
    5. Machito
      Machito 12 February 2022 15: 46
      0
      Quote: Thrifty
      We rent a tanker with a crew! Let them continue to sink their frigates during the exercises of the NATO fleets in the Baltic - for a $ 23 million fine, it's worth it !!! wassat Russia will pay for the sinking of a couple of dozen frigates and destroyers at this rate. For the last more than 30 million dollars, we will not pay a fine!!! wassat

      The captain of the tanker must be given the Order of the Red Star. soldier
  2. Emergency
    Emergency 10 February 2022 19: 05
    +2
    The incompetence of the warlords was veiled. And what about the ship? winked The Vikings are shrinking.
  3. Charik
    Charik 10 February 2022 19: 07
    0
    oh i like the result
  4. lopuhan2006
    lopuhan2006 10 February 2022 19: 12
    +3
    Shtaa? Anecdote: How the 600th Merc crashed into the back of the rink. The brothers are repairing the dismantling - well, tell me how you overtook, how you cut ....
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 11 February 2022 03: 00
      0
      Quote: lopuhan2006
      Anecdote

      Chumak was cooking kulesh in the steppe... I stumbled and turned the cauldron over...-That's damn crampedness! recourse
  5. Jager
    Jager 10 February 2022 19: 16
    +1
    Nobody died, the trough was drowned. Excellent result! soldier
  6. expert
    expert 10 February 2022 19: 19
    +4
    All vehicles, without exception, on water, on land and in the air are INSURED. So the insurance company will pay the announced amount.
    I am not a ship insurance specialist, but MANDATORY car insurance in Germany (introduced by law on 07.11.1939/100.000.000/15.000.000) pays up to 5.000.000 euros for material damage, up to XNUMX for each victim and up to XNUMX for environmental damage.
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 10 February 2022 20: 55
      +2
      A tanker without insurance will not go to sea, you are right. hi
  7. MessDeceit
    MessDeceit 10 February 2022 19: 41
    0
    To conduct the investigation, it was necessary to call the Czechs. The Czechs know who is to blame and what to do.
    1. volodimer
      volodimer 11 February 2022 19: 28
      0
      Of course, two Russians who love old British architecture and Czech pastoral are to blame. And of course, only the Czechs, as representatives of the leading European maritime power (this is not certain, the Belarusians will not agree), can competently resolve this incident.
  8. Moskovit
    Moskovit 10 February 2022 19: 48
    +3
    Captain Boshirov and First Officer Petrov know their stuff!
    "We just sailed to see the Norwegian fjords," they said in another interview with Simonyan.
  9. Pereira
    Pereira 11 February 2022 08: 28
    +3
    Judging by the picture, the frigate is to blame - a left turn with an obstacle on the right.
    1. volodimer
      volodimer 11 February 2022 19: 18
      +1
      According to the MPPS, the frigate had to let the tanker through and only then turn left. This is taught in the courses for navigators of a small fleet. And professionals - military sailors should have known this by heart. But the fact that they are "military" and played a cruel joke with them. They decided that the rules were not for them. Well, as a result.
  10. Antokha
    Antokha 11 February 2022 12: 04
    +2
    Video credit. I don't see the tanker's fault at all. I got out without violations, the lights were on, I sent a message, asked to disperse as expected, tried to stop. But the frigate did everything wrong. The sailors here, of course, write that there is no 100% fault of one side, that, they say, sailors at sea are almost all brothers. But what about the roads where we drive cars? Full of real idiots. And in the air? Are they not there? And that's just at sea all the professionals. Something is not visible professionalism of the military here at all. Even the phrase "limited damage control" suggests that they did not properly assess the damage and eliminate the consequences. They left hatches and doors open. But, perhaps, could have avoided flooding.
  11. HeadDCooK
    HeadDCooK 12 February 2022 14: 21
    0
    Good advertisement for DSME! They build good tankers, you can ram anything.