Central Design Bureau "Rubin" provided the second version of the submersible patrol ship "Strazh"

Image of the first version of the ship "Guardian"

A new, already second modification of the submersible patrol ship "Guardian" was presented by the Central Design Bureau "Rubin". As explained in the press service of the design bureau, the ship is intended for export deliveries.

In April last year, Rubin presented the first modification of a submersible (diving) patrol ship. The development, combining the capabilities of a surface ship and a submarine, was intended for deliveries abroad under the designation BOSS (Border and Offshore Submersible Sentry). The ship, reminiscent of the Soviet submarines of project 613, had a displacement of about 1000 tons, a length of up to 70 meters, a crew of up to 42 people, including an inspection team. On the ship there are boats for inspection and a drone. There were no weapons.

Now "Rubin" has presented the second modification of the "Guardian", which, unlike the first, received weapons. According to the message, the ship's armament includes: a small-caliber automatic cannon, two launchers for guided missiles and four torpedo tubes of 324 mm caliber.

Image of the second version of the ship "Guardian"

In the new version, the displacement has increased to 1300 tons, the length is 72 meters, in addition, the ship received a new hull with other contours that reduce radar visibility. The new engine allows speeds up to 21 knots. The cruising range is up to 4 thousand miles at a speed of 10 knots, if necessary, it can be increased. Nothing is said about the number of crew members, probably it does not differ much from the first version.

The ship has two hermetic hangars for placing boats and weapons for inspection teams, as well as drone. Like the first option, the second "Guardian" is also intended for foreign customers.

Comments

[Trapp1st]

For what purposes was such an ersatz needed?

[prior]

Probably, the Rubin Central Design Bureau was merged with a kindergarten for optimization purposes - that's the result.

[Zaurbek]

They just pull it out of the archive.......

[antivirus]

in addition, the ship received a new hull with other contours that reduce radar visibility. The new engine allows speeds up to 21 knots. The cruising range is

children's garden and archive combine their favorite -- SAILS ... not yet. already good
maybe someone thought about this creation. I don't understand geniuses.
born to run I can't dive

[tralflot1832]

April 1 is still a long way off.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: prior

Probably, the Rubin Central Design Bureau was merged with a kindergarten for optimization purposes - that's the result.

the generation of the Unified State Examination has matured ... it becomes scary.

[Alex777]

The ship, reminiscent of the Soviet submarines of project 613, had a displacement about 1 ton, length - up to 70 meters, crew - up to 42 people, including the inspection team.

It is good for the author to read what he writes.

[933454818]

So I was surprised what kind of ship it was with a displacement of 1 ton and a crew of up to 42 people. Is it a big surfboard for 42 people?

[dzvero]

combined with kindergarten

Exactly. PMSM this project served as training for the younger generation. A game of self-design. Break your head over an extraordinary task, fill your hand creating drawings ... I'm sure that some non-standard ideas and solutions have appeared and will be applied "in an adult way." Well, if someone pays for the building - a net bonus.

[ycuce234-san]

Quote: dzvero

Well, if someone pays for the building - a net bonus.

More interesting then are the repair projects and some kind of modernization of the technical systems of boats in third world countries. This will definitely be paid for and will provide a very diverse and non-standard training.

[Nemchinov Vl]

Quote: prior

Probably, the Rubin Central Design Bureau was merged with a kindergarten for optimization purposes - that's the result.

"+" !!!
Take their pencils.. (!).

Quote: alexey2073

Something from the territory of the Central Clinical Hospital Rubin is pulled with the aroma of cannabis ..

or send the State Narcotics Control ...

[Alexander Salenko]

Same question.

[Alex777]

I don’t see any other purpose except to transport drugs to the States.
But with drugs, with a foreign customer, everything will be at the modern level.

[mark1]

Quote: Trapp1st

For what purposes was such an ersatz needed?

Like the first option, the second "Guardian" is also intended for foreign customers.

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For rich, crazy foreign customers - it remains only to find such ...

[Alex777]

Columbia.. No?

[mark1]

For drug barons?

[Alex777]

So who else? Quite a foreign customer. Pay in gold..

[mark1]

Well, if they pass another path well ... then perhaps they will buy it.

[antivirus]

for sheikhs - to carry special forces to the Persian yard.

or for the Persians to the Arabian coast.
After all, they wanted to convert TU160 into a civilian supersonic for them

and covertly deliver weapons to the Hussites?

[just exp]

and I think it's a pretty good idea. and I would do more stupid things.
it has a lot of advantages over the classic KUG.
here an air group took off from 1-4 AUGs, the simultaneous launch of hundreds of other LRASSMs, air defense can choke on a large number of targets. and then once the KUG plunges within 5 minutes, and until the entire flow of anti-ship missiles arrives in the desired area, oops, but there are no targets. and the PLO KUG AUG will not let the turntables fly to the range. for the AUG is suitable for the range of use of anti-ship missiles, which is unacceptable for the AUG according to the concept of application.
also, the submerged KUG is not detected by radar and patrol aircraft.
firing anti-ship missiles from a submerged position is already possible.
to solve the problem of some kind of remote radar and underwater launch of missiles, there would be no price at all

[mark1]

Quote: just explo

and until the entire flow of anti-ship missiles arrives in the desired area, oops, but there are no targets.

The idea is fresh, not mushy ... and I will contribute my five cents to the development of tactics - it is necessary to make the KUG not only sinking, but also bouncing ... They will fire a torpedo, another, a third, and the KUG will bounce and the torpedoes will pass by , and then under the water -bulk! and the missiles flew past ... And so continue to wear down the enemy until her ammunition runs out ...
Again, with repeated repetition of the process during the battle, such a wave will rise (and not one!), That if all this takes place off the hostile coast, no Poseidon will be needed!

[just exp]

you don’t need to jump, it’s enough to stand on the underwings and the torpedoes will pass under the ship.
the topic of ekranoplanes was also discussed more than once.
a diving ekranoplan in general a wunderwaffe can be

[mark1]

Ha-ha!... what if... the wing is knocked off by accident... by a torpedo?!

[just exp]

it won’t kick off, the wings are above the level at which the torpedoes float, the lateral width of the wings is ten times less than the length of the hull, even an accidental hit of a torpedo in a wing (it happens that a bullet hits a bullet) still brings less damage to the ship than a torpedo hitting the ship’s hull .
and ekranoplans have no wings at all

[Thrifty]

Admins, correct the text, otherwise you have indicated a displacement of ONE TON !!!

[Zaurbek]

Some kind of garbage ......... build better diesel-electric submarines .... preferably modern and with vertical launchers

[Romario_Argo]

diesel-electric submarines .... preferably modern and with vertical launchers

and also with missiles like Redoubt or Shtil-1 in UVP or in TPK for 533-mm TA
the question is only in the CU (?)
as an option, only TPK with several radar buoys and coils with cable for them 25 km each

[Flooding]

“The cost of patrol ships on the world market is relatively low, which makes them acceptable for countries with a small budget. The exploitation pays off by preventing poaching and other economic offences. Ships of this type are multifunctional, they can be used for security, as well as a rescue or research vessel, explained the Rubin Central Design Bureau. “When choosing equipment, we focused as much as possible on existing samples that are mass-produced and commercially justified themselves, including equipment for surface ships and aircraft.”

The underwater position gives the ship two advantages at once: the ability to conduct covert surveillance of intruders (and successfully intercept them) and escape from adverse weather conditions without interrupting patrols. The submersible ship can be used as a classic submarine - for reconnaissance and other tasks. Possibilities of studying the shelf of a "diving" patrol ship will be higher than that of a similar surface ship. It can also serve as a low-cost training tool to prepare crews and infrastructure for future purchases of classic submarines.

developer says:
http://ckb-rubin.ru/mediacentr/novosti_i_sobytija/novost/news/detail/News/nyrjajushchii_patrulnyi_korabl_strazh_razrabotan_dlja_za/

[Tuzik]

one hundred of the type of Japanese submarine aircraft carrier I-400

[Cat]

Japanese aircraft carrier type I-400

The second version is more like Surkuf, only a hangar instead of an artillery tower

[Snail N9]

It looks like Zemvolt, not Surkuf...

[Avior]

Needs some tweaking
Put decent guns in front, and place an airplane in the back

somehow like this. There will be a storm of the seas! :)))

[Catfish]

Or maybe they were inspired by Drzewiecki's idea?

[Catfish]

And there was also a Soviet submersible rocket ship of project 1231 of the 50s, though it was not built.

[bar]

[quote] The ship, which resembled the Soviet submarines of project 613, had a displacement of about 1 ton, a length of up to 70 meters, a crew of up to 42 people [/ quote
How did he dive with his 70 meters and a displacement of one ton?
Something today fail after fail. The editors do not read what is printed?

[crambol]

Displacement of 1 ton, this is a pair of ten-oared yawls!

[loki565]

probably they forgot to add a zero, with such dimensions 10k is already closer to reality

[Alex777]

Three zeros forgot...

[frog]

EMNIP, for dozens, only a hull pulled under a ton ....

[Flooding]

Quote: bar

How did he dive with his 70 meters and a displacement of one ton?

plus crew 3 tons
plus provisions, fuel
you look, and ten tons came running

[Sergei 777]

I think the ship’s niche will be very narrow, if at all it will be brought to metal.

[spirit]

In Rubin, they considered how they are worse than the Americans and their ships of the coastal zone, which do not know what to do now) They decided to surpass and create their own miracle of engineering

[alexey sidykin]

Quote: spirit

In Rubin, they considered how they are worse than the Americans and their ships of the coastal zone, which do not know what to do now) They decided to surpass and create their own miracle of engineering

Oops... common practice. Such projects are issued in batches by any design bureau. What is now, what is in the USSR, what is abroad.

[PPD]

Great!
What for? What is the need for it? What is the scope?
Technically, neither a submarine nor a patrol ship! ?

[vl903]

ersatz training submarine? at the same time the border guard poachers to drive? and wait out the storm at depth?
that is, the first training submarine, and then so that the money would not disappear - a border guard, a scout?

[Tavrik]

Read carefully - this is an export version. Intercept the submarines of drug dealers.
In general, of course, a child prodigy ...

[Alexander Salenko]

A simple guard with a helicopter will not work?

[Tavrik]

Will do. But they are designed by other design bureaus. And Rubin needs to demonstrate his competence.

[sledak]

I don’t know who they see in Rubin as foreign customers, but the Somali pirates will definitely want to use such a miracle as a means of attack - and you can wait out the storm and hide the good at the bottom of the sea (if you go out through the TA) and surprise factor.
Or maybe some marines from some PMC are dreaming about this miracle machine?

[Stepan S]

hide the good at the bottom of the sea (if you go out through the TA)

324 mm, who will go out there through these torpedo tubes? Completely dry drug addicts? )

[sledak]

Quote: Stepan S

hide the good at the bottom of the sea (if you go out through the TA)

324 mm, who will go out there through these torpedo tubes? Completely dry drug addicts? )

Exactly, children of pirates))))

[Stepan S]

Exactly, children of pirates))))

Of course, children should be taught to help their parents from childhood)

[alexey sidykin]

Is it possible to drive pirates and smugglers ...

[Stepan S]

In the next version of the "Guardian" from the Central Design Bureau "Rubin" will be able to fly, but low, and retractable wheels will appear for pursuit on land. As it is, we will move in this direction.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Stepan S

In the next version, "Guardian" from the Central Design Bureau "Rubin" will get the ability to fly, but low, and retractable wheels will appear for pursuit on land.

LPL Ushakov - our everything!

[alexey2073]

Something from the territory of the Central Clinical Hospital Rubin is pulled with the aroma of cannabis .... With normal ships in our Navy, apparently everything is fine, you can do crap

[storm]

They combined a corvette and a submarine in one hull, if this "product" does not stand like a destroyer, then why not adopt several "STRAZH-2" units into service with the FSB, in any case they are more interesting than patrol ships pr. 22160.
For the protection of the North and South streams, the thing is indispensable, and it will check everything under water and ensure safety on the surface.

[gregor6549]

The ideas of the unforgettable Nikita Khrushchev live and win. True, he proposed to cross a hydrofoil with a submarine, but the essence is the same. And the result is likely to be the same. And then there's the infamous "Zumwalt" influence is felt

[Basarev]

Diving ship - stupidity. It is bad both as a submarine and as a surface ... It would be better if they made it semi-submerged so that one cabin sticks out above the water, with a record low EPR.

[fa2998]

But you don’t take into account the resistance of water? Yes, the felling gives a small EPR, but the ENTIRE housing does not create noise in hydroacoustics? Somewhere you win, somewhere you lose.
Yes, and how to use a weapon - to float completely, or to introduce complex underwater launch systems.

[Basarev]

Well, you can leave the launcher covers above the water. The RCS will still be much lower than that of simple surface ones. Now, after all, the main confrontation is just between radars and stealth. Whoever discovers whom first or who manages to sneak up to the launch range unnoticed will win, because now the advantage of the first shot has become irresistible and absolute.

[fa2998]

You didn’t answer about the resistance of WATER. After all, it’s not the Meteor and the Rocket that turn out - the whole body is “dragged” under water. The density of water cannot be compared with air. The engine is needed more powerful, and the cruising range will fall!

[Basarev]

Water resistance is the least of the problems. People have been sailing for thousands of years. They must have found a solution.

[K-50]

Question. Why is he needed? Submersible, patrol, 1300 tons of displacement, at a speed of 21 knots, at a hell of a cost? There are much cheaper, faster and better armed guards, patrolmen.
Just "play" someone wanted at public expense?

[Undecim]

A new, already second modification of the submersible patrol ship "Guardian" was presented by the Central Design Bureau "Rubin".

Comrades are working in the right direction. Now this topic is very popular.

Firms such as clan del Golfo or FARK will be torn off with their hands. And about the "patrol ship" - that's right, a cover. Potential customers should be informed.

[fa2998]

Quote: Trapp1st

For what purposes was such an ersatz needed?

Well, they were modest, in the 0s there was a project (Ushakov) - a submarine also flew there!

[bobba94]

Normal ...... Someone has a military budget of under 700 billion dollars and it is delayed on Zamvolts at $ 4,4 billion apiece, and someone has a military budget of 70 billion dollars and you have to have fun with such budget devices

[agond]

It looks like the underwater airship specialists from the Rubin Central Design Bureau have no other business, this is the second option, we have to wait for the third. I wonder if they have submersible tug projects, and if not, when will they.

[Charik]

Shame on AvtoVAZ-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwUnIN5RLm0&t=1s

[Kerensky]

A pure pirate is an interceptor for working in the straits. There will be a dozen of such key places for shipping, so it is not difficult to calculate the customer.
Let's not say that: "Everything is shot through", its task is to force the target to drift and capture, and not drown. Hence the set of weapons:

small-caliber automatic cannon, two guided missile launchers and four 324 mm torpedo tubes.

Can be based in the mouths of rivers.

[Metlik]

The idea is right, everything will depend on the execution.

[sawwa999]

Quote: "... reminiscent of the Soviet submarines of project 613, had a displacement of about 1 ton, a length of up to 70 meters ...". There seems to be a typo here. A ship 70 meters long cannot have a displacement of 1 ton. Maybe 1 thousand tons? Further text: "... the displacement has grown to 1300 tons, the length is 72 meters ...". This is closer to the truth.
And why would any coast guard have a diving patrol boat. What tasks can he perform that are inaccessible to conventional surface boats. For patrol boats, the main thing is speed, maneuver and autonomy. Who is he going to sneak up on?

[Castro Ruiz]

For the transportation of drugs from Colombia to the States, that's it.
The drug lords will tear off their hands. :)

[ada]

I believe that dual-media and multi-media independent vehicles or complexes with carriers in the Navy and not only will find their niche in the near future and will be in demand. I think that at the first stages, these will be robotic vehicles for surface and underwater carriers with more functionality than currently existing ones. Further development of means that increase the capabilities of the fleet or expand them is not possible without systematic research and development work. Maybe it's just a legend.

[Vladimir Gordeev]

There is a "Guardian", but no customers .... For Colombia, probably, but the Americans have banned ... cartels will buy through third parties ....

[Vladislav_2]

You can sell to South American drug cartels :)

[agond]

A patrol vessel, by definition, cannot be slow-moving, and neither underwater nor surface threatens this miracle of speed, that is, everything that it is capable of moving at an economical speed of 1.5-3 knots per hour, and may even lie on the bottom where possible and wait for the intruder’s fishing schooner, when it approaches, you must quickly surface, but for any ascent it will take at least 5 minutes, during which time the intruder will detect an ambush and give a tear until the boat with the inspection team is lowered from the boat, the intruder will be removed at full speed towards neutral waters . and maybe it will. Since the radius of detection by an underwater patrol of an intruder for subsequent "capture" and inspection will be very small, probably 2-3 km (anywhere within line of sight), a lot of such submersible patrols will be required and this will be many times more expensive than the use of conventional surface ships, so the initiative of the Central Design Bureau "Rubin" is simply trying to get a government order

[Romanenko]

I wonder what prompted the Rubinists to create such a mix?
Indeed, if you look at it, then with an average budget, you get a rather entertaining ship, which, as in the saying "..... crept up unnoticed", probably such a thing can come in handy to combat drug trafficking by sea, because the Colombian drug lords used semi-submersible boats to reduce visibility in the process of delivery to the coasts of the states.
Apparently here, too, something from this topic, but in a more serious incarnation.

[Shaman]

Probably to intercept Colombian drug couriers in the seas and oceans.

[Nitarius]

good idea)))) implemented for a long time)))

[Pavel57]

The violator will not catch up, but will scare.

[Diviz]

You need at least 10 of these.
It is necessary to study the ocean, the seabed. Look for traces of civilizations and explore the underwater world.
Antarctica Greenland, yes, but there are no interesting places.

[Pandiurin]

Quote from DiViZ

You need at least 10 of these.
It is necessary to study the ocean, the seabed. Look for traces of civilizations and explore the underwater world.
Antarctica Greenland, yes, but there are no interesting places.

If this is a scientific vessel, then why would they dive underwater.
For this, a bathyscaphe and other similar devices are quite enough. Much cheaper and more space in terms of technical capabilities.
Bathyscaphes have modifications that allow you to dive to any depth of the oceans that are only on our planet.

[Diviz]

Because it will be possible to conduct closed studies.
Submarines swim and how many times they encounter incomprehensible phenomena and sail further to study there is no time.

[Pandiurin]

Quote from DiViZ

Because it will be possible to conduct closed studies.
Submarines swim and how many times they encounter incomprehensible phenomena and sail further to study there is no time.

Well, if "closed" (secret) scientific research, then this is probably the search for Atlantis?
Then of course)

An example has long been known, a private civilian research vessel of the Nautilus type described by Jules Verne.

This part-submersible vessel with brief submergence would not be able to provide a sufficient level of mystery in the search for Atlantis.

With the idea to build a modern Nautilus, you can probably turn to Abramovich. Unfortunately, the state is not suitable for financing such a necessary project; the costs must be indicated in the budget. Imagine a budget that contains lines like:
"building a nautilus - 500 billion."
"the search for Atlantis - 100 billion."

Only private funding from people who understand the importance of this idea.

[Diviz]

Of course, this is a technological project. The use of new nuclear compact engines and protection against the effects of various kinds of waves, AI. Etc. No one has yet done this on a large scale and seriously.
Of course, if we take space projects by analogy, then all our projects are joint with other countries. We ourselves supposedly have nothing to hide - it's too expensive.