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In the village of the Rostov region, instead of the Eternal Flame at the memorial, his image was turned on on the screen

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Near the memorial in honor of the heroes of the Great Patriotic War in the south of Russia, a "digital" Eternal Flame appeared. It is located in the village of Primorka in the Neklinovsky district of the Rostov region and is a TV screen on which video is broadcast.


It is reported by the local news portal 161.rureferring to social networks.

One of the users posted a video on the Internet, where you can see an electronic panel with the Eternal Flame next to the monument.

It was installed last year. Irina Yarovenko, who headed the village administration at that time, said that the Eternal Flame in Primorka is the most beautiful in the region. Now Irina Zimovets, who replaced her in this position, said that the appearance of this “gadget” is due to the impossibility for the budget of the rural settlement to maintain a real Eternal Flame due to high costs.

Opinions regarding the "electronic" Eternal Flame among local residents and social media users are divided. Some like him, others criticize him for being "not real". Some even suggest that soon, instead of a real fireworks display on Victory Day, its image will be shown on the screen.

On the other hand, most of these objects do not correspond to the name "Eternal Flame", since they are lit only on memorable dates in order to save money. In particular, in the Rostov region, the flame burns constantly only at 26 memorial complexes with the Eternal Flame out of 167 available. In this regard, in a number of regions the term is already used not the Eternal Flame, but the fire of Memory.

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  1. DMB_95
    DMB_95 7 February 2022 12: 27
    +10
    No, I'm definitely not from that generation that can appreciate such a damn "innovation" ..
    1. Anarchist
      Anarchist 7 February 2022 12: 38
      +15
      Quote: DMB_95
      No, I'm definitely not from that generation that can appreciate such a damn "innovation" ..

      If you were born where I was born and grew up (Myaunja, Magadan region), then any innovation would be welcome. There is no gas at all. And it will never be there! And it is inexpedient to support a fire with firewood ...
      1. DMB_95
        DMB_95 7 February 2022 12: 48
        0
        Quote: Anarchist
        Quote: DMB_95
        No, I'm definitely not from that generation that can appreciate such a damn "innovation" ..

        If you were born where I was born and grew up (Myaunja, Magadan region), then any innovation would be welcome. There is no gas at all. And it will never be there! And it is very expensive to maintain a fire with firewood ...

        In principle, I don't like the idea of ​​a "virtual" Eternal Flame. It's better to make it out of reinforced concrete and paint it with red paint if there is no gas.
        1. Anarchist
          Anarchist 7 February 2022 12: 55
          +3
          There's just a memorial without any artificial fire.
          1. alystan
            alystan 7 February 2022 18: 01
            +6
            For a small village of less than 4 souls, a memorial would be suitable even without an eternal flame. As in your Small Motherland, there are many such military memorials, and this in no way detracts from the people's respect for the memory of their heroically fallen ancestors.
            I have a question about the posted photo, on which the inscription "BOGORODCHAN ..." is visible (I did not make out further). Bogorodchany turned out to be an urban-type settlement in the Ivano-Frankivsk region of the Ivano-Frankivsk region of Ukraine?
            Maybe I was looking badly?
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 7 February 2022 20: 34
              0
              Maybe I was looking badly?

              Badly. And not that. And it is not clear why.
              Bogorodskoye is a village in the Remontnensky district of the Rostov region, as part of the Kalininsky rural settlement .

              Founded in 1862-1865 as the village of Shandasta[⇨]

              What do you think the inhabitants of this village of Bogorodskoye are called?
              1. alystan
                alystan 7 February 2022 23: 10
                +1
                Near the memorial in honor of the heroes of the Great Patriotic War in the south of Russia, a "digital" Eternal Flame appeared. It is located in the village of Primorka, Neklinovsky district Rostov region and is a TV screen on which video is broadcast.

                I have nothing against the village of Bogorodskoye, Remontnensky district, but the story is about another village from another district.
        2. DymOk_v_dYmke
          DymOk_v_dYmke 7 February 2022 13: 30
          -2
          Quote: DMB_95
          In principle, I don't like the idea of ​​a "virtual" Eternal Flame. It's better to make it out of reinforced concrete and paint it with red paint if there is no gas.

          The point is not that there is no gas, the point is that the "public property" has money for "Gazprom Arenas", but no kopecks for eternal lights. The toad of profits strangles them.
          the appearance of this "gadget" is due to the impossibility for the budget of a rural settlement to maintain a real Eternal Flame due to high costs.

          So throughout Russia. Capitalist Russia.
      2. fa2998
        fa2998 7 February 2022 18: 09
        -6
        And did the war come to Magadan? And who thought of making the Eternal Flame there? request
        1. alystan
          alystan 7 February 2022 18: 52
          +5
          Nobody from Magadan fought on the fronts of the Great Patriotic War, in your opinion?
    2. svp67
      svp67 7 February 2022 14: 00
      +10
      Quote: DMB_95
      No, I'm definitely not from that generation that can appreciate such a damn "innovation" ..

      And I can ... at least from the Soviet ones. And I don't see anything wrong here. The main thing is that the memorial is not abandoned, it is looked after and not on May 9 all the time.
      1. alexmach
        alexmach 7 February 2022 14: 29
        +1
        I agree with both of you. Firstly, the memorial is really well maintained and this is the main thing. But secondly, the comrade above absolutely correctly writes there is no money - it could have been done easier - it’s trite to depict this fire on a granite slab right at the place where the TV is.
        1. svp67
          svp67 7 February 2022 14: 31
          0
          Quote: alexmach
          it is trite to depict this fire on a granite slab right on the spot where the TV is.

          Perhaps they will come to this ... In the light of the fight against the release of carbon dioxide, I will not be surprised
        2. Journalist
          Journalist 7 February 2022 15: 38
          +4
          A virtual but trembling flame is better than a dead stone. And it will attract more attention, and it will find a response in the hearts more accurately. You and I may not see it, but I am sure that in half a century such virtual lights, most likely in the form of holograms, will become the norm - and this will be a good transformation of the tradition.
        3. alystan
          alystan 7 February 2022 19: 33
          +1
          I completely agree with you all about the excellent condition of the memorial.
          But above I wrote about the inscription on the plate "BOGORODOCHAN ..." And this is somewhere in the Ivano-Frankivsk region of Ukraine ...
          Judging by the quality, the photo is relatively recent, but knowing the dislike of Westerners for everything Soviet, I don’t really believe that normal people will be allowed to take care of military memorials there.
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    3. Thrifty
      Thrifty 7 February 2022 15: 11
      -9
      Well, yes, Russia is a poor country, we buy gas from the UK, the ruins, and from Germany .... if I didn’t confuse anything .... recourse what laughing
    4. fa2998
      fa2998 7 February 2022 18: 14
      -5
      Quote: DMB_95
      No, I'm definitely not from that generation that can appreciate such a damn "innovation" ..

      The next "innovation" will be - they will draw a fire on cardboard. Even cheaper - a monitor, electricity, etc. - extra expenses. Cutting something out of the budget is a sacred thing. hi
      1. DMB_95
        DMB_95 8 February 2022 12: 22
        +1
        Quote: fa2998
        Quote: DMB_95
        No, I'm definitely not from that generation that can appreciate such a damn "innovation" ..

        The next "innovation" will be - they will draw a fire on cardboard. Even cheaper - a monitor, electricity, etc. - extra expenses. Cutting something out of the budget is a sacred thing. hi

        I wrote about the reinforced concrete Eternal Flame, as they did in the Soviet Union. People who survived the War touched such a Fire and cried, but if they replaced this Fire with a "cartoon" - how would they react to this?
  2. knn54
    knn54 7 February 2022 12: 28
    -11
    Install a compact complex for the production of biogas. Here you have both methane and fertilizer. Raw materials (not only manure) can always be found in the village. After all, this is our HISTORICAL MEMORY.
    1. alystan
      alystan 7 February 2022 19: 38
      +3
      Are you serious about "dung and not only"?
  3. Terenin
    Terenin 7 February 2022 12: 28
    +5
    In this regard, in a number of regions the term is already used not the Eternal Flame, but the fire of Memory.
    I think from Memory and we must proceed.
    1. Andrey Kuligin
      Andrey Kuligin 7 February 2022 12: 35
      -2
      and tomorrow they will say - sorry, we don’t remember, we forgot ....
    2. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 7 February 2022 12: 56
      -4
      Quote: Terenin
      I think from Memory and we must proceed.

      Who needs? From time immemorial, fire has been eternal, let it remain so.
      And the effective managers of Gazprom need to reduce their appetite. The largest gas reserves on the planet, but there is no money to maintain an eternal flame. A disgrace, and managers, and authorities. They have money to support Chechnya. Ugh!
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 7 February 2022 18: 58
        +5
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Who needs? From time immemorial, fire has been eternal, let it remain so.

        If you notice, I'm writing from myself.
        As a child, under the guidance of our respected military leader, a front-line soldier, without any slogans, we cut out stars, painted them red and nailed them to houses from which their inhabitants left to fight, and then we and other guys went along these stars to help those living in them, chop wood, dig up a garden, buy groceries...etc.
        There was no gas (except for purchased bottled gas) at all.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 7 February 2022 21: 54
          -2
          Quote: Terenin
          without any slogans

          Worthy business.
          Quote: Terenin
          There was no gas (except for purchased bottled gas) at all.

          At least 40 years have passed, it's time to bring it to every shack, not to mention profitability. First of all, you need to think about your population, and only then about profits and various flows. hi
  4. Million
    Million 7 February 2022 12: 29
    +2
    Well, what, Putin is shown only on the screen, and fire is possible.
    If gas can be sold, then why burn it just like that, for free?
    Judah!
    1. 210ox
      210ox 7 February 2022 12: 58
      0
      Gazprom and social responsibility? Not a. Indeed for sale. Even conscience.
    2. svp67
      svp67 7 February 2022 14: 03
      +4
      Quote: Million
      If gas can be sold, then why burn it just like that, for free?
      Judah!

      Yeah ... and the electricity that this screen consumes, is it free? And at whose expense to maintain a specialist in gas equipment? What's wrong with innovation? Let's move away from LED bulbs... in favor of incandescent bulbs.
      I think the village administration acted wisely.
      1. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 7 February 2022 16: 45
        0
        Quote: svp67
        I think the village administration acted wisely.

        Smart in a desperate situation.
        In Soviet times, ~50% of the collected funds went to local budgets; now ~ 30%/
        And there were no chain stores that did not pay to local budgets. hi
    3. alystan
      alystan 7 February 2022 19: 40
      0
      How much associated gas is burned, do you know?
      Is this also the work of Judas ("powerless")?
  5. Basarev
    Basarev 7 February 2022 12: 32
    -5
    On the other hand, most of these objects do not correspond to the name "Eternal Flame", since they are lit only on memorable dates in order to save money. In particular, in the Rostov region, the flame burns constantly only at 26 memorial complexes with the Eternal Flame out of 167 available. In this regard, in a number of regions the term is already used not the Eternal Flame, but the fire of Memory.

    Overton window in action. So soon they will be extinguished with the ends. And at the same time, some hypocritically trumpet the whole country about great memory and sacrifice ... But in reality - the Eternal Lights are extinguished, but in reality - the last veterans live out in bestial conditions and they are remembered one day a year, but in reality - they drape the mausoleum, trying in every possible way to forget what idea they fought and killed for. What is this bottom. The states don’t allow themselves this, they really remember at what cost the Victory was given, how revered this word is and in what respect the Heroes who ensured it.
    1. Andrey Moskvin
      Andrey Moskvin 7 February 2022 13: 03
      0
      And so it will be, our last Soviet generation will leave and that's it, everything virtual is closer to the youth. Well, if at least such a Fire survives in 50 years...
    2. Terenin
      Terenin 7 February 2022 19: 19
      +7
      Quote: Basarev
      The states do not allow themselves this, they really remember at what cost the Victory was given, how revered this word is and in what respect the Heroes who ensured it.

      It looks like the "hail on the hill" covered the light with its radiance ... Don't tell on VO, about the good attitude of the US authorities towards their veterans ... All data is in the public domain.
      According to the Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) for 2018, there are 564,708 homeless people in the United States, 8% of them (which is not so little - 47,725 people) are veterans of wars, including World War II. Almost half of the participants in the Vietnam War among homeless veterans - 47%...
      And, I don’t even want to write about the percentage of suicides of US veterans.
  6. Andrey Kuligin
    Andrey Kuligin 7 February 2022 12: 34
    +10
    and we still spit on the Balts .... we have enough of our villains - Vlasovites in power .... in the Rostov region in the village of Elanskaya there is a monument to SS Brigadeführer Krasnov, there is enough money to maintain him ....
    1. Daniil Konovalenko
      Daniil Konovalenko 7 February 2022 13: 28
      +1
      Really nonsense? It turns out on your territory, at least put a monument to the devil for your money, support, call the people .. to yourself, it’s possible .. but not on the municipal .. Although there was an attempt to hang a memorial plaque to one Finnish marshal in the city, in the siege of which he the troops took part and starved .. But how beautifully it was done, it turns out that the memorial plaque was not for the Finnish marshal, but for an officer of the imperial general staff, and these are two big differences .. laughing
      1. Andrey Kuligin
        Andrey Kuligin 7 February 2022 15: 32
        +2
        why try? hung up and solemnly opened .... and if it were not for the indignation of the people, it would have hung ...
  7. taiga2018
    taiga2018 7 February 2022 12: 34
    +3
    Well, why not, quite in the spirit of the times, at least here all sorts of idiots will not be able to fry sausages ...
    1. Tomcat_Tomcat
      Tomcat_Tomcat 7 February 2022 13: 11
      -1
      Quote: taiga2018
      Well, why not, quite in the spirit of the times, at least here all sorts of idiots will not be able to fry sausages ...

      Following your logic, can the monuments be replaced with television screens, or even removed so that vandals do not desecrate them? Maybe we should fight against vandals and half-wits, and not with monuments?
  8. Tagan
    Tagan 7 February 2022 12: 37
    +1
    Quote: knn54
    Install a compact complex for the production of biogas. Here you have both methane and fertilizer. Raw materials (not only manure) can always be found in the village. After all, this is our HISTORICAL MEMORY.

    Well, how can I say, there’s definitely a lot of bird droppings there (the poultry farm is nearby)
  9. abrakadabre
    abrakadabre 7 February 2022 12: 37
    0
    It is necessary for the state officials responsible for this to pay their salaries by showing it on TV or on a special YouTube channel. As they ensure the proper care and functioning of the entrusted objects, they are paid.
  10. Woodman
    Woodman 7 February 2022 12: 37
    +10
    Near the memorial in honor of the heroes of the Great Patriotic War in the south of Russia, a "digital" Eternal Flame appeared.

    On the other hand, most of these objects do not correspond to the name "Eternal Flame", since, in order to save money, they are lit only on memorable dates.
    On the one hand, the ""digital" Eternal Flame" is, of course, original. On the other hand, in many (if not all) villages and villages where there are such objects, the Eternal Flame never, even under the Union, did not burn constantly. Memorial dates only. So all the news is exclusively in the digitalization of the symbol. And on memorable dates, it will burn as it should be.
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    2. ohka
      ohka 7 February 2022 13: 13
      +1
      There he never was.
  11. Tagan
    Tagan 7 February 2022 12: 45
    +2
    Quote: Lesovik
    On the one hand, the ""digital" Eternal Flame" is, of course, original. On the other hand, in many (if not all) villages and villages where there are such objects, the Eternal Flame never, even under the Union, did not burn constantly. Memorial dates only. So all the news is exclusively in the digitalization of the symbol. And on memorable dates, it will burn as it should be.

    Here's another moment. A large memorial "Sambek Heights" a couple of kilometers from Primorka. Perhaps this also had some effect.
  12. Tagan
    Tagan 7 February 2022 12: 56
    +5
    Quote: Basarev

    Overton window in action. So soon they will be extinguished with the ends. And at the same time, some hypocritically trumpet the whole country about great memory and sacrifice ... But in reality - the Eternal Lights are extinguished, but in reality - the last veterans live out in bestial conditions and they are remembered one day a year, but in reality - they drape the mausoleum, trying in every possible way to forget what idea they fought and killed for. What is this bottom. The states don’t allow themselves this, they really remember at what cost the Victory was given, how revered this word is and in what respect the Heroes who ensured it.

    Well, who else could so loudly declare hypocrisy. If you do not remember what you often write about, it is not superfluous to look sometimes. Well, this is in case you really have a pinched heart.
    As for the states. Well, don't be embarrassed. Yes, they remember... And at the same time they rewrite history without a twinge of conscience. In addition, they sheltered many Nazi criminals at one time.
  13. Engineer Schukin
    Engineer Schukin 7 February 2022 13: 03
    -10
    Quote: knn54
    Irina Zimovets said that the appearance of this "gadget" is due to the impossibility for the budget of the rural settlement to maintain a real Eternal Flame due to high costs.

    All true.
    Moreover, the practical solution has already been tested many times.
    It is necessary to collect money for gas for the Rostov village on the federal channel by SMS.

    For example, what an uplifting story on Channel One
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 7 February 2022 14: 22
      -8
      Quote: Engineer Shchukin
      For example, what an uplifting story on Channel One

      Yes, it's really uplifting. Take the pitchfork.
      My mother has been pedaling gas in the village for more than 10 years. And the widely publicized Putin's program of additional gasification is, in fact, inaccessible to the majority. You can’t submit documents in person, but in electronic form it’s such a mess that you can go crazy.
  14. evgen1221
    evgen1221 7 February 2022 13: 27
    -3
    And what is it? Did they sell all the gas over the hill?
  15. Mikhail Sidorov
    Mikhail Sidorov 7 February 2022 13: 34
    0
    Virtual life is everywhere. Virtual money, virtual wives, maybe soon virtual food. Not everything is measured by economic expediency in life, but the current government does not understand this. Empty words about patriotism and destructive deeds.
  16. Kapkan
    Kapkan 8 February 2022 06: 37
    -1
    Well, you can compare with our approach in Chelyabinsk.
    I think that money in the budget for the eternal flame should always be allocated and reserved.
    And, otherwise, it's "some kind of shame" ...