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Second Boer War 1899-1902 Background of the conflict

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The first meeting of the Dutch with the natives of South Africa, 1652. Artist Charles Davidson Bell (1813–1882)


Only two African hillocks,
Just dust and scorching heat
Only the path between them
Only the Transvaal behind,
Marching column only
In deceiving silence
Impressive and adamant
Walking around the country.
"Two Hills" R. Kipling

Unknown Wars. Not so long ago, after the release of material on the British khaki uniform, a discussion arose on our website regarding its use during the Anglo-Boer War of 1899-1902. And a number of readers expressed a desire to learn more about her: and about weapon, which was used in it, and about its course itself. Moreover, they rightly pointed out that the main source of information about this war for our Soviet, and then Russian citizens, is Louis Boussenard's book "Captain Smash Head", read in early childhood. Surprisingly, no one named the novel The Strange General by Oleg Fokich Koryakov, the first story about the Boer War in Soviet fiction. Of course, there is also Wikipedia, but since a lot of time has passed since this war, it is unlikely that any of our people today read reports about this war published in the Niva magazine, as well as in Russian newspapers of that time. It was from this wish, in fact, that this new cycle “for a long time” was born, the name of which is “Unknown Wars” and which will just tell about those of them that we know quite a bit about. In this regard, I was a little more fortunate than others. I had files of Niva magazines in my old house for both 1899 and 1901-1902. And they contain a lot of interesting materials and, most importantly, photographs. And besides this, the same filings are stored in our regional museum of local lore. Come and read, and if you want, then take pictures! Today we will talk about the prehistory of the Anglo-Boer conflict, which is directly related to the European colonization of the African continent.

And it happened that back in 1487, on the way to India, Portuguese navigators headed by Bartolomeu Dias sailed to the southern coast of Africa. But ... they didn’t find anything interesting and went on. 200 years later, the Dutch under the command of Jan van Riebeeck arrived here and on April 6, 1652, they founded the first colony at the Cape of Good Hope. The name was given to her Cape Town. The "problem of the natives" immediately arose. The latter were wild and warlike. But somehow relations with them improved, and the population of the colony began to grow. The XNUMXth and XNUMXth centuries were the time of the mass resettlement of the Dutch here. There was surprisingly much land here that belonged to no one. So they began to manage it. And after the Dutch, the Huguenots from France also rushed here, where just at that time they began to be persecuted.

The settlers did not have enough workers. And, it would seem, there were no problems with them, since there were quite enough local natives with black skin, that is, a priori slaves. Only the kaffirs, with whom the settlers had to deal, were not at all suitable for the role of slaves. I had to import people from Indonesia, and from the island of Madagascar. Gradually they assimilated and gave rise to the colored "Cape Malayas", while the white colonists - farmers, laid the foundation for the "Boer people", that is, the "peasants" (in Dutch "boer" means peasant), who were the descendants of the Dutch, French, and the Germans, who also reached out to these distant, but fertile places.

For almost a century and a half, they were the only white people here, until the British East India Company got here. And in 1795, under the pretext that the troops of Napoleon Bonaparte could get here, English regular troops landed here and the Boer settlements “took under their protection”. In the end, in 1815, these lands were legally assigned to Britain by the Congress of Vienna. And who else would need them at that time? Nobody!

Very soon, the British banned training and office work in the Dutch language, and English was declared the state language. Then in 1833 they also officially banned slavery. Moreover, a ransom was appointed for each slave who was in slavery to the Boers. But twice the accepted price. In addition, it could only be obtained in London, and not with money, but ... with government bonds, which was beyond the understanding of ordinary Boers, not too burdened with education. So the Negro slaves became free, in fact, for free.

This is how three mutually exclusive forces formed in southern Africa. The first is the local black natives who hated all whites indiscriminately. Then the Boers are fanatically religious Calvinists, closed to the whole outside world in their self-sufficiency. By the way, Mark Twain, who at one time visited southern Africa (and far from being an Englishman, whom he himself did not like), wrote about the Boers as follows:

“The Boers are very pious, deeply ignorant, stupid, stubborn, intolerant, unscrupulous, hospitable, honest in their dealings with whites, cruel to their black servants… they don’t care at all what’s going on in the world.”

By the way, not only Mark Twain, but also the assistant to the Russian military attache in the Transvaal, Captain von Siegern-Korn, wrote about the cruel attitude towards his black servants:

“While the black servant serves him with humility and devotion, he (bur - V.O.) treats him calmly, fairly and even good-naturedly. But it is enough for the drill to feel the slightest shade of deceit in the black, the slightest spark of indignation, how the calm and good-natured owner turns into a formidable, implacable executioner and subjects the recalcitrant to cruel punishment, without being embarrassed by any consequences.

The third force in the south of the continent was the British, proud of their young empire, ambitious and unprincipled. As a result, there were more than enough reasons for mutual hatred, given the complete dissimilarity of the cultures of all these peoples, and where mutual hatred exists, it is always only half a step before war.

Second Boer War 1899-1902 Background of the conflict
Zulu Warriors 1879 Artist Charles Edwin Fripp (1854-1906)

However, they were not the first to fight, but King Chaka Zulu, who united the Zulu tribes, began to methodically exterminate all their unrelated neighbors and seize their territories.


Trekker Drills, 1898 Artist Charles Davidson Bell (1813–1882)

Here, by the way, the Boers decided to get away from the British and in 1835 began the "Great Track" - resettlement to the north. In just ten years, about 15 trekkers went north and settled between the Orange and Vaal rivers. This is where they ran into the Zulus...


Drill trekkers. Artist Charles Edwin Fripp

In 1837, in order to negotiate with the Zulu king Dingane, the Boers sent ambassadors to his camp, led by their leader Peter Retief. But Dingane, as a true savage, considered them to be sorcerers and ... ordered to kill everyone, and then his soldiers attacked a detachment of settlers and killed more than 530 people, including women and children. Naturally, the Boers decided to pay him off for this ... and paid off on December 16, 1838 in the Battle of the Bloody River, where several hundred Boer settlers led by Andris Pretorius (by the way, the capital Pretoria was founded by him, but he named it in honor of his father) met with the ten thousandth Dingane army. As a result, the Boers killed more than three thousand Zulu warriors, losing only three people wounded. The power of the white man was clearly demonstrated to the Zulus, and the Boers saw in this victory a sign of God's clear mercy to them.


Zulus throwing assegai at a British officer at the Battle of Isandlwana. Charles Edwin Fripp

A year later, a peace was signed with Dingane, according to which the Zulus renounced in favor of the Boers from all the lands south of the Tugela River. The Boers immediately founded the Republic of Natal on this territory, but in May 1843 it was officially annexed to the Cape Colony.

Then the Boers went even further north and created two new republics at once: the Republic of South Africa (or Transvaal) with its capital in the city of Pretoria (in 1852), and the Orange Free State with its capital in the city of Bloemfontein (in 1854). Britain recognized both of these states at the same time. On the one hand, it was all good. They received the long-awaited freedom and the opportunity to live according to the customs of their ancestors. But on the other hand… on the other hand, this “freedom” conserved patriarchal relations in their society, which did not correspond to the realities of the time at all.


Zulu warriors at the Battle of Isandlwana, 1879 by Charles Edwin Fripp

And then their quiet peaceful life was disrupted in the most unexpected way: in 1870, an absolutely huge diamond deposit was found in the town of Kimberley. Moreover, the find was not interesting to the Boers, however, whole crowds of adventurers of all stripes immediately rushed to the deposit.


Diamond mining in South Africa. Photos of those years

Among them was Cecil John Rhodes, the future founder of the still prosperous De Beers company, and also ... two new British colonies named after him - Southern and Northern Rhodesia. Very soon, there were more “come in large numbers” than the Boers, and they ... began to demand for themselves the rights of local citizenship, the same as those of the Boers, and the abolition of high taxes for foreigners ...


Sorting of diamonds. De Beers Company. Kimberly. South Africa. Photos of those years

A human rights "Reform Committee" was formed, funded by Cecil Rhodes and other diamond miners. Moreover, the “come in large numbers” (they were called Uitlanders) demanded citizenship in the Transvaal, but at the same time they did not want to renounce their British citizenship, that is, they essentially advocated dual citizenship, which no local government likes, since it immediately creates many dangerous precedents . As a result, Britain annexed the diamond-bearing lands in 1871, and annexed them to the Cape Colony.


English soldiers are digging a well. Charles Edwin Fripp

And then in February 1886, in addition to diamonds, gold was also found here.

Moreover, the gold mined in the Transvaal, although it went to London banks, the British Treasury did not receive a penny from the Transvaal gold mines. Everything went into private hands, because it was mined privately on the territory of completely independent republics and it was possible to dig it there like clay! As a result, about 40% of the total world supply of this precious metal was soon mined here!


Map of the Boer states and British possessions in South Africa

Well, where there is a lot of gold, there will always be many hunters to lay their hands on it. And this means that gold, violence and war go hand in hand ... However, it should be noted that the First Boer War took place even before gold was found here, and it lasted from December 16, 1880 to March 23, 1881 But this and other events preceding the fight of 1899-1902 will be told next time.

To be continued ...
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  1. andrewkor
    andrewkor 19 February 2022 06: 18
    +1
    A very interesting cycle is planned! Will there be a cycle of "Unknown Wars of the USSR"?
    1. kalibr
      19 February 2022 07: 13
      +8
      Quote: andrewkor
      Will there be a cycle of "Unknown Wars of the USSR"?

      It makes no sense to separate it into a separate topic. We live in the world, not on Mars. So something of his unknown wars will be.
      1. andrewkor
        andrewkor 19 February 2022 08: 04
        +1
        So it will be about the USSR! Very good!
        1. vladcub
          vladcub 19 February 2022 16: 29
          +2
          I would prefer that V. O not affect the USSR. With V. O, it turns out that he will step on "a favorite corn".
          The trouble is that V. O writes interestingly and addictive. You read it involuntarily and get angry: this talent and on other topics.
          Here are the Samsonov brothers: they write "someone about what and how horrible and there is no particular desire to read. Let them amuse themselves
          1. kalibr
            19 February 2022 16: 53
            +4
            Calm down, Svyatoslav. I will not take the "Winter War" as well as the Afghan one... A lot has been written about them even without me... Calluses will remain intact... Our people have marked themselves in many other interesting places.
            1. vladcub
              vladcub 19 February 2022 21: 46
              +1
              Phew, thanks for the reassurance. Seriously, only the lazy didn’t write about this, and you don’t like to repeat
      2. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 19 February 2022 22: 38
        +1
        Quote: kalibr
        It makes no sense to separate it into a separate topic. We live in the world, not on Mars. So something of his unknown wars will

        Great article. I look forward to continuing. Indeed, I knew about this war according to Boussenard ... And there, IMHO, there is too much romance, and not enough causal relationships.
  2. 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 19 February 2022 07: 35
    +5
    The state and military organization of the Zulus are worthy of a separate article.
    Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich!
    1. kalibr
      19 February 2022 07: 43
      +6
      Quote: 3x3zsave
      The state and military organization of the Zulus are worthy of a separate article.

      It was about this and in great detail in the magazine Around the World. What year would you like to remember?
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 19 February 2022 07: 57
        +3
        Archive of the journal for the period 1927-2021. digitized and available for download.
        1. kalibr
          19 February 2022 10: 06
          +4
          I know Anton. But can you imagine how many numbers you need to watch? I don't remember the year. I never thought that after such exhaustive material one could write something else. I did not understand that time and new people, new facts and new pictures change everything!
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 19 February 2022 10: 12
            +4
            I did not understand that time and new people, new facts and new pictures change everything!
            What is it about! It all depends on the angle of view.
            1. kalibr
              19 February 2022 13: 18
              +4
              Quote: 3x3zsave
              What are we talking about!

              The thing is, Anton, that... I had an urgent need for money from 1972 to 1977 and... I sold a lot of literature through Bookinist. Then, since 1976, I did not have a shed - and I just ... threw out all the old magazines. Then... when I realized that it was a value, it was 2007.... And now I have to spend a lot of time searching for old information. And I don't want to waste time on it. It's good to have internet. But ... just now I wrote an article about the castle. Two drawings were ordered to the artist - he was waiting, part of the photo - he was waiting for permission, part he was collecting from his "archives". As a result, the work stretched for 7 days. It's good that there was something to do in parallel ...
          2. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 19 February 2022 14: 50
            +1
            You can go to the official website of the magazine, set search parameters in the search engine and filter the wheat from the chaff. I managed.
            1. kalibr
              19 February 2022 15: 20
              +2
              Quote: 3x3zsave
              I managed.

              So you found an article about Chuck Zulu in Around the World?
              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 19 February 2022 15: 22
                +2
                According to the history of the Zulu "kingdom" there are several of them. Can you remember at least a decade?
                1. kalibr
                  19 February 2022 16: 51
                  +2
                  No, dear Anton, alas! Memory gives such failures that it's just horror. "Here I remember, here I don't remember."
                2. Korsar4
                  Korsar4 19 February 2022 20: 11
                  +2
                  There is a book called "Zulu Chaka". She was available online.
                  1. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave 19 February 2022 20: 15
                    +1
                    Yes, I know about this book, but my favorite Middle Ages sucks like a whirlpool.
    2. Catfish
      Catfish 19 February 2022 11: 17
      +6
      the military organization of the Zulus is worthy of a separate article.

      Which they proved once at Isandlvan. Yes, they were well organized... for the Stone Age, or early nineteenth. All this crashed on one cunning Hiram Maxim machine.

      In the picture, it seems to me, the battle with the Zulus of Lobengula is not of regular units, but of the "militia" detachment of Cecil Rhodes. "Won around me fell like cut grass" (Lobengula)
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 19 February 2022 11: 25
        +2
        With a difference in technological level, this is inevitable.
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 19 February 2022 11: 43
          +5
          It’s just that not all whites immediately realized what the “Maxim mowing machine” was, prompted that battle, which I mentioned above, and in the Anglo-Boer War the machines were already used on both sides.
          Boers behind a machine gun, it's funny to see "home" uncles in the field and in a civilian outfit. smile

      2. vadsonen
        vadsonen 23 February 2022 18: 31
        +1
        All this crashed on one cunning Hiram Maxim machine.

        Each question has a clear answer:
        We have “maxims”, they don't have it.
        (Hilaire Belloc)
  3. Olgovich
    Olgovich 19 February 2022 11: 41
    +1
    Mark Twain, who at one time visited southern Africa (and far from being an Englishman, whom he himself did not like), wrote about the Boers as follows:

    “The Boers are very pious, deeply ignorant, stupid, stubborn, intolerant, unscrupulous
    Twain explored precisely the English gold mines and, according to the words of the British, wrote about the Boers, while he himself practically did not communicate with them:
    I myself once worked in the gold mines and I understand everything in the process of extracting gold, except for one thing: how to make money with it. But on the other hand, I managed to learn a lot about the Boers, about whom I had heard almost nothing before. Everything, that I heard in the mines, was subsequently confirmed in other parts South Africa.


    And a little more Twain from the same chapter with the Boers (now about blacks) to understand the degree of his objectivity:
    A huge mass of savages must disappear from the face of the earth. Their land is needed by the white people, and all of them, with the exception of a small handful who will work for the white on terms dictated by him, should disappear. Since history has removed the element of uncertainty from this position and turned it into an indisputable fact, it is necessary to adopt the most humane way to destroy the black population, and not use the old, cruel methods. Mr. Rhodes and his gang are adherents of the old methods. They were hired to rob and kill, and they do it legally, but not at all in the spirit of Christian compassion.


    I like the Boers, like many Russian people of the beginning of the last century, for example, the Chairman of the State Duma Guchkov, who fought for the freedom of the Boers, was very seriously wounded in battle because of which, as a result, he died.
    1. kalibr
      19 February 2022 11: 56
      +6
      Quote: Olgovich
      who fought for the freedom of the Boers

      Well ! A smart man would fight for the freedom of his own people, but not someone else's. A stranger must be helped with weapons and money, and let them, these foreign peoples, kill each other as much and as long as possible. And you have to take care of your people!
      1. Catfish
        Catfish 19 February 2022 12: 36
        +6
        A smart man would fight for the freedom of his own people, but not someone else's

        Do not tell me, there are a lot of examples when smart people did just that. The reasons were different, for example, these guys are quite prosaic. smile

      2. Olgovich
        Olgovich 19 February 2022 14: 04
        -1
        Quote: kalibr
        Well ! A smart man would fight for the freedom of his own people, but not someone else's

        Well...who then attacked his own people? belay
        Quote: kalibr
        let them, these foreign peoples, kill each other as much as possible and longer.
        belay
        did I not misheard? PEOPLE - do not feel sorry?
        Quote: kalibr
        And you have to take care of your people!

        One does not contradict the other
        1. kalibr
          19 February 2022 15: 20
          +2
          Quote: Olgovich
          PEOPLE - do not feel sorry?

          Strangers - no! Theirs - yes!
      3. Ermak_Timofeich
        Ermak_Timofeich 19 February 2022 14: 44
        +1
        Well ! A smart man would fight for the freedom of his own people, but not someone else's

        And you, as a former propagandist, ask how many Russian officers, including the General Staff, fought in that war on the side of the Boers? Perhaps, having met a lot of "loud" and well-known surnames, you will somewhat correct your point of view.
        1. kalibr
          19 February 2022 15: 22
          +1
          Quote: Ermak_Timofeich
          Perhaps, having met a lot of "loud" and well-known surnames, you will somewhat correct your point of view.

          And there were enough fools among people of well-known surnames, otherwise we would still live in the Russian Empire today and would be subjects of the sovereign, let's say Alexei the 4th! And where does the former propagandist, by the way? You will read the cycle and you will learn many details of "love for the Boers".
          1. Liam
            Liam 19 February 2022 15: 23
            -3
            Quote: kalibr
            Alexey 4th

            And why Vladimir 2nd does not suit you
            1. kalibr
              19 February 2022 16: 48
              +1
              Quote: Liam
              And why Vladimir 2nd does not suit you

              Quite satisfied, just this name "came out of the subcortex".
          2. Ermak_Timofeich
            Ermak_Timofeich 19 February 2022 15: 51
            0
            And there were enough fools

            Yes, as always. Just do not find that thanks to these "fools", at all times, today we have the opportunity to exist and express our own point of view on historical and current events. Only because there are such "fools" and they are not translated.
            what about the former propagandist

            Yes, I have been reading the forum, including your publications, since the 14th year. The stereotype has developed.
            1. kalibr
              19 February 2022 16: 47
              +3
              Quote: Ermak_Timofeich
              Just do not find that thanks to these "fools", at all times, today we have the opportunity to exist and express our own point of view on historical and current events.

              So we can agree to the fact that we all have the opportunity to exist thanks to the fall of Adam and Eve!
              1. Ermak_Timofeich
                Ermak_Timofeich 20 February 2022 05: 51
                -1
                we all have the opportunity to exist because of the fall of Adam and Eve!

                Well, if we consider this issue from the point of view opposite to dialectical and historical materialism, then, apparently, yes.
          3. astra wild2
            astra wild2 19 February 2022 16: 03
            0
            Vyacheslav Olegovich, a question out of harm: what side is the preservation of the monarchy in Russia and help to the Boers?
            1. kalibr
              19 February 2022 16: 45
              +1
              Quote: Astra wild2
              Vyacheslav Olegovich, a question out of harm: what side is the preservation of the monarchy in Russia and help to the Boers?

              Did I write so incomprehensibly? The man advised me to find out how many people of famous families fought for their freedom. In response, I wrote that stupid people met at that time among famous families. Moreover, there were many. If it were otherwise (that is, it is understood that if there were more smart people), we would still live in the Republic of Ingushetia today! What's not clear?
              1. astra wild2
                astra wild2 20 February 2022 17: 28
                +1
                I'm sorry, but I wanted to be mean
          4. Hagen
            Hagen 20 February 2022 18: 53
            0
            Quote: kalibr
            And there were enough fools among people of famous surnames

            I agree with you, Vyacheslav Olegovich, in almost all aspects. Even in the denial of the need for pity for foreign peoples (although not in absolute terms). The only thing I don't share is sticking categorical labels. I believe that "people with famous names" can be called fools when he personally did something smarter and more useful than them, and won (earned) even more fame for this. The division of people into smart and fools is very subjective, and, as a rule, the statement of this assessment in public does not indicate the maturity of the arbiter. I think so.
            1. kalibr
              20 February 2022 22: 06
              0
              Quote: Hagen
              The division of people into smart and fools is very subjective, and, as a rule, the statement of this assessment in public does not indicate the maturity of the arbiter. I think so.

              I already wrote that it was not my idea. Remember the Strugatsky novel "Predatory Things of the Century". Compare what is written there with what we have today. Read the comments carefully. And you will see that this division is quite objective. Moreover, it fully complies with the Pareto Law - 80 and 20. So why not voice it, if it exists? By the way, as a positive phenomenon, it should be noted that in VO this proportion is violated in a positive direction. We often have 50 to 50 or 50 to 60. And this is very pleasing!
              1. Hagen
                Hagen 21 February 2022 05: 42
                0
                Quote: kalibr
                You will see that this division is quite objective. Moreover, it fully complies with the Pareto Law - 80 and 20. So why not voice it, if it exists?

                You misunderstood me.... I'm not trying to challenge Pareto. I'm just saying that you need to do a lot of noticeable things in your life in order to qualify for the mantle of the Judge.
                1. kalibr
                  21 February 2022 06: 41
                  +2
                  Quote: Hagen
                  I'm just saying that you need to do a lot of noticeable things in your life in order to qualify for the mantle of the Judge.

                  It is truth too. You're right. But judges also come in different levels, don't they? And I think that I did enough for the level of the site. It is clear who writes what, especially if more than once.
                  1. Hagen
                    Hagen 21 February 2022 09: 18
                    0
                    Quote: kalibr
                    And I think that I did enough for the level of the site.

                    Well .... and here, probably, "self-nomination" is appropriate. But I am against the appropriation of our grandfathers, today no longer able to defend their name, such pejorative definitions. History, even of the last century, with its arrays of documents, is still not an exact science. And even if it seems to us at the level of our personal depth of comprehension that our grandfathers “screwed up” somewhere, it would be worth treating them with respect, if only because our physical existence is their merit. But that's my personal opinion. I have neither the right nor the desire to teach you.
                    1. kalibr
                      21 February 2022 16: 56
                      0
                      Quote: Hagen
                      that our grandfathers "screwed up" somewhere, it would be worth treating them with respect

                      And how do you imagine it ... "textually"? How can this be expressed in words? To write like this: Ivanov acted clearly stupid, as even his contemporaries wrote about (but he is our common ancestor and I respect him), and then he did ... (but I still respect him) ... I think that having written like this, I will not wait very long for the arrival of the guys in white coats and with a shirt of a strange cut ...
                      1. Hagen
                        Hagen 21 February 2022 17: 55
                        0
                        Quote: kalibr
                        Ivanov acted clearly stupid, as even his contemporaries wrote about (but he is our common ancestor and I respect him), and then he did it at all ... (but I still respect him) ..

                        You don't have to yell. If you have managed to write manuals on your subject, books, a bunch of articles, then I think you will be able to show your attitude to the actions of any person without resorting to market abuse.
                      2. kalibr
                        21 February 2022 19: 04
                        0
                        Quote: Hagen
                        If you have managed to write manuals on your subject, books, a bunch of articles, then I think you will be able to show your attitude to the actions of any person without resorting to market abuse.

                        Probably would have been able to. But ... is it worth it? It is said after all: the grave will correct the humpbacked one.
                      3. Hagen
                        Hagen 21 February 2022 20: 03
                        0
                        Quote: kalibr
                        Probably would have been able to. But ... is it worth it? It is said after all: the grave will correct the humpbacked one.

                        Here I am about the same. It just takes good will. Through this and all the sufferings of the world, that we ask the question - is it worth showing kindness and mercy, even in relation to the long dead?! So our neighbors think the same way - is it worth talking to those who disagree?! After all, they themselves consider themselves right, and therefore worthy of judging others .... So the "wrong" peacekeeper is "pissed off" ....
              2. Undecim
                Undecim 21 February 2022 16: 55
                +2
                By the way, as a positive phenomenon, it should be noted that in VO this proportion is violated in a positive direction. We often have 50 to 50 or 50 to 60. And this is very pleasing!

                Yes, you shouldn't be too happy. In the "News" section, where the most active regulars of the site gather, the proportion is between 90 and 10 and 99 and 1.
                1. kalibr
                  21 February 2022 19: 03
                  +1
                  No, I didn't think of that! Get used to the good...
          5. Looking for
            Looking for 21 February 2022 20: 52
            -1
            You can't learn much from "children's literature".
            1. kalibr
              21 February 2022 21: 01
              +1
              That's right, Alexander. That is why no one here reads you, and you read my materials.
      4. Senior seaman
        Senior seaman 19 February 2022 16: 53
        +3
        Quote: kalibr
        A smart man would fight for the freedom of his own people, but not someone else's.

        As for the "freedoms" in Tsarist Russia of that time, one can argue, but it seems like it was not enslaved by any foreign invaders.
        Or do you mean something else?
        Quote: kalibr
        Someone else needs to help with weapons and money

        Well, Guchkov was a simple businessman during the Boer War.
    2. Catfish
      Catfish 19 February 2022 12: 31
      +9
      Andrey, good day! smile
      Right now, blacks are in power in South Africa, and what, the country stepped forward and began to develop more intensively? Courts for the military industry and the army are just the opposite. request
      It’s like in an old joke:
      A black man lies under a palm tree and does nothing. White comes up and says:
      “I would have collected bananas from a palm tree, sold and hired people to collect these bananas. Money would have flowed, and you would have been lying and doing nothing.
      And the Negro answers him: "And I'm already lying and doing nothing." request
      That is the whole point.
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 19 February 2022 14: 09
        +4
        Quote: Sea Cat
        Andrey, good day!
        Right now, blacks are in power in South Africa, and what, the country stepped forward and began to develop more intensively? Ships for the military industry and the army are just the opposite

        Greetings, Constantine! hi

        It's like that.

        I read a sketch from Johannesburg: the indigenous populated the empty skyscrapers and, in the process of living, filled elevator and other mines with waste products.

        After filling them ... went to another skyscraper.
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 19 February 2022 14: 25
          +2
          After filling them ... they moved to another high-rise.


          That's right, everything is according to this joke with bananas. As they used to live, they still live now, they will rob everything edible, pollute the neighborhood and move to a fresh place. One benefit is fertilizing the soil with excrement, but this does not fit high-rise buildings in any way, but ... but the owners themselves. laughing
        2. Aviator_
          Aviator_ 19 February 2022 15: 01
          +5
          I read a sketch from Johannesburg: the indigenous populated the empty skyscrapers and, in the process of living, filled elevator and other mines with waste products.

          After filling them ... they moved to another high-rise.

          I visited South Africa in 2012. What you have written is classic nonsense. The people there are different, but the country's budget is not very good, since uranium, gold, diamonds and coal belong to TNK. There is a program to pull the country out of the hole, they even write school teachers for themselves from all over Africa.
          1. kalibr
            19 February 2022 15: 27
            +5
            Sergei, it would be very interesting if you wrote about your trip to this country and your personal impressions. It is clear that you were there on business, but ... really there was no time to see something. The flight itself, meeting at the airport, hotel. Locals... a lot of things that no one here has any idea about. Even so: did you have to do any injections or not? Interesting...
            I read a sketch from Johannesburg: the indigenous populated the empty skyscrapers and, in the process of living, filled elevator and other mines with waste products.This is where it came from...
            1. Aviator_
              Aviator_ 19 February 2022 16: 11
              +5
              Vyacheslav, this can be done, but will VO take it? It was my first business trip abroad, especially since the accounting department saved money and settled me in a crime-prone area. There were impressions.
              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 19 February 2022 16: 18
                +5
                In the "Opinions" section, I think it will look quite appropriate.
                Hello Sergey!
                1. Aviator_
                  Aviator_ 19 February 2022 16: 20
                  +5
                  Hello Anton! Okay, I'll try to write. If it goes in this genre, then I will continue. There is material.
                  1. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave 19 February 2022 16: 23
                    +5
                    In addition, perhaps, looking at you, VikNik will take up the description of his travels.
                    1. Aviator_
                      Aviator_ 19 February 2022 16: 26
                      +7
                      and VikNik will take up the description of his travels.
                      At the numerous requests of the workers will have to write. But not today, today we accept the son's family with two grandchildren - they bring a gift to grandfather.
                      1. kalibr
                        19 February 2022 16: 42
                        +4
                        Quote: Aviator_
                        with two grandchildren

                        What a cool grandfather you are!
                  2. kalibr
                    19 February 2022 16: 42
                    +6
                    Quote: Aviator_
                    I will try to write.

                    +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
              2. kalibr
                19 February 2022 16: 38
                +4
                Quote: Aviator_
                Vyacheslav, this can be done, but will VO take it? It was my first business trip abroad, especially since the accounting department saved money and settled me in a crime-prone area. There were impressions.

                Here you see! I can't vouch for the administration of the site. But why not try? I can advise you to take, if not as an epigraph, then as a lead, that very phrase about ... waste. And then my impressions. Like, there are "opinions" and there is what I saw myself.
                1. Undecim
                  Undecim 19 February 2022 21: 03
                  +5
                  I can advise you to take, if not as an epigraph, then as a lead, that very phrase about ... waste.

                  Bad advice. Start writing with an epigraph about excrement ...
                  1. kalibr
                    20 February 2022 06: 56
                    +2
                    Quote: Undecim
                    Bad advice. Start writing with an epigraph about excrement ...

                    Really. But he's a smart person. He himself will figure out what it is better for him to insert into a specific text.
          2. Olgovich
            Olgovich 20 February 2022 08: 06
            -5
            Quote: Aviator_
            I visited South Africa in 2012. What you have written is classic nonsense.

            unlike the raving tourist, it was written local a citizen.
          3. Alexey RU64
            Alexey RU64 20 February 2022 11: 57
            -2
            Already funny. They subscribe teachers from all over Africa. This is probably their Zaire? Or Sudan? Or maybe Zimbabwe will bring teachers to them. Sometimes it seems to me that some write sur without even understanding what they are writing about. I have never been to Africa, but when I wrote a book about it in the alternative genre, no one. Nobody said it wasn't. On the contrary, everyone who lived there said out loud that it was so, they were Russians, Ukrainians and Latvians. Like tends to like, and mulattos immediately separate themselves from native Africans. This is me to ensure that everything is clear there.
            1. Aviator_
              Aviator_ 20 February 2022 12: 31
              +1
              Already funny. They subscribe teachers from all over Africa. This is probably their Zaire?
              Yes, from Zaire. You have a primitive idea of ​​Africa.
              Here is a group of schoolchildren on an excursion to the zoo. The teacher is indeed from Zaire.
              But a teacher from Rwanda, Joseph Nsengimana, reads sopromat at Johannesburg University. Studied in Kharkov from 1990 to 1996. He speaks good Russian, but he does not know Ukromov at all.
              On the right - our professor Shchelyev from IOFAN.
              1. Alexey RU64
                Alexey RU64 20 February 2022 15: 59
                -1
                You know, there are also a lot of people with higher education in Ukraine, and I won’t be surprised that they also know the strength of materials, but I haven’t heard anything about the breakthrough technologies of this state, and their level is appropriate. No doubt everywhere there are exceptions to the rules, everywhere, but exceptions.
          4. Looking for
            Looking for 21 February 2022 20: 55
            0
            were overflight - today they arrived. Tomorrow they flew away?
            1. Aviator_
              Aviator_ 21 February 2022 21: 13
              0
              were overflight - today they arrived. Tomorrow they flew away?
              Not at all. Conference ICHSIP-30, registration of fast processes. 5 days with excursion day - zoo, museum. Very good organization, better than in Japan.
      2. Non-fighter
        Non-fighter 19 February 2022 17: 22
        +3
        And the Negro answers him: "And I'm already lying and doing nothing."

        What is our modern life?
        A lion lies under a baobab in the savannah. He feels good - he killed the antelope, ate as much as he could, the scavengers eat up the rest (oga, small and medium-sized businesses).
        And then the devil and the angel begin to whisper in both ears.
        - Well, what are you lying?
        - (Leo) I want and lie down. I'm full, I'm good.
        - And tomorrow you will get hungry, what will you do?
        - I'll get up and catch an antelope. Look how many of them run.
        “But if you catch an antelope now, you won’t have to catch it tomorrow!” I got up, went and caught an antelope.
        The lion goes and catches the antelope, but the meat quickly deteriorates in the heat, a refrigerator is needed. The lion goes to the fridge dealer.
        - I want to buy a refrigerator.
        - (Seller) And how will you pay?
        - Antelopes.
        - So, the refrigerator costs 50 antelopes. Do you have 50 antelopes? There is not? Okay, then within two months you will bring one antelope. And if you forget, your head will hang over my fireplace. Look, I have hunters on the payroll. And the refrigerator needs electricity, come next.
        Electricity costs 5 antelope per month. Now the lion has to catch 2-3 antelopes every day, one inside himself, the other to pay off the loan for the refrigerator, and you also have to pay for electricity.
        Then it turns out that you can’t put a refrigerator in an open field, you need a house, a plot. mortgage, etc.
        And now the poor lion hunts dozens of antelopes a day, in herds, everyone says "look what an effective lion" !!!. It was even shown on TV, I saw it myself. And all for what? That's right, where in the bowels of the house in the refrigerator lies a frozen-frozen carcass of an antelope. For a rainy day.
  4. astra wild2
    astra wild2 19 February 2022 15: 52
    -1
    "more than three thousand Zulu warriors were killed" in fact there was: "the massacre of babies". ALL Boers had firearms and they hit the Zulus from a distance of 150-200, and the bow will reach 100-120 meters
    1. Aviator_
      Aviator_ 19 February 2022 16: 15
      +7
      "actually there was:," Massacre of the Innocents ".
      It is, of course, so, but before that, the "babies" showed their inability to negotiate, massacring more than 500 white people, including women and children - see the text of the article.
      1. astra wild2
        astra wild2 20 February 2022 17: 34
        +1
        Least of all I wanted to justify the Zulus, but the weapons were incomparable
        1. Aviator_
          Aviator_ 20 February 2022 20: 15
          0
          Least of all I wanted to justify the Zulus, but the weapons were incomparable
          What's right is right. As they say - "Do not fight with the strong, do not sue the rich."
    2. kalibr
      19 February 2022 16: 40
      +5
      It was revenge, Astra! Directly according to the Bible - "I will repay my vengeance!"
  5. Chief Officer Lom
    Chief Officer Lom 19 February 2022 17: 39
    0
    Quote: Aviator_
    It is, of course, so, but before that, the "babies" showed their inability to negotiate, massacring more than 500 white people, including women and children - see the text of the article.

    I wonder what alternatives they had in those days? Did they have to take white women and children as slaves?)) The experience of the American Indians, who welcomed the first European settlers, showed an alternative path. Europeans (and this is their difference from us, there is no need to strive to be ranked among this tribe) never came to be neighbors (in the everyday sense), they always came to be masters, leaving only slaves alive in the end (for greater decency, the slaves were later renamed to subhuman, but now they are "non-citizens") I doubt that the blacks had the opportunity to peacefully deport them ...
    1. kalibr
      19 February 2022 18: 10
      +4
      Quote: Chief Officer Lom
      What were their alternatives back then?

      And there are no alternatives. Those who are lower in intellectual and technological level should always bow to those who are higher. Or they will be persuaded to do so!
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 19 February 2022 18: 29
        +3
        Yeees? How interesting! You, Vyacheslav Olegovich, tell this to the Araucans ...
        1. kalibr
          19 February 2022 18: 45
          +4
          Don't rely on exceptions!
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 19 February 2022 18: 52
            +1
            Several waves of expansion of nomads to the west, Normans and southerners, Arabs and Byzantium...
            1. kalibr
              20 February 2022 06: 54
              +1
              Quote: 3x3zsave
              Several waves of expansion of nomads to the west, Normans and southerners, Arabs and Byzantium...

              Savages can defeat a civilized person by overwhelming them, as the Kaffirs defeated the British, but they will still fall under his influence in the end. All those waves... where are they? And the peoples they conquered live where the Arabs who conquered half the world. As soon as the Spaniards surpassed their level of military culture, they rolled back. Byzantium was not lucky, but how long did it last?
      2. CHEREDA73
        CHEREDA73 19 February 2022 19: 22
        +2
        Or the inclining one will break his neck in these attempts. Not so simple. Although, in general, I agree.
    2. Aviator_
      Aviator_ 20 February 2022 08: 46
      0
      The experience of the American Indians, who welcomed the first European settlers, showed an alternative path.
      I somehow doubt that the information technology of that time helped the Zulus to know the fate of the Indians. Well, the colonizer - he is the colonizer. Especially with the Protestant ethic. The influence of religious beliefs on the policy of the colonialists was well analyzed by S.G. Kara-Murza. Small peoples on the territory of Russia were very lucky that the Russian "colonizers" had Orthodoxy.
      1. kalibr
        20 February 2022 22: 20
        0
        Quote: Aviator_
        Small peoples on the territory of Russia were very lucky that the Russian "colonizers" had Orthodoxy.

        In this respect, yes. We ourselves do not!
  6. CHEREDA73
    CHEREDA73 19 February 2022 18: 26
    +2
    Good afternoon, Vyacheslav Olegovich.
    I read it with great interest. The article gave some harmony to what I knew before.
    At one time, my attention was riveted to South Africa, as I could work there. It did not work out, I ended up in another country.
    1. kalibr
      19 February 2022 18: 46
      +2
      Glad. I'm currently working on a sequel. I had a hobby friend there in South Africa. Corresponded in the 90s. Learned a lot from him.
  7. ycuce234-san
    ycuce234-san 19 February 2022 20: 21
    0
    As a result, Britain annexed the diamond-bearing lands in 1871, and annexed them to the Cape Colony.


    For some reason, neither the Boers nor the British began to implement the concession option.
  8. Alexander Chebykin
    Alexander Chebykin 20 February 2022 09: 58
    +1
    ".... 200 years later, the Dutch under the command of Jan van Riebeeck got here and on April 6, 1652, they founded the first colony on the Cape of Good Hope. The name was given to her Cape Town..." Maybe Kapstadt?
  9. Alexey RU64
    Alexey RU64 20 February 2022 11: 44
    -3
    I wanted to ask the author if you read the Anglo-Boer War of A. Vinogradsky, at least one of the issues? Or is this information from the collections of Drogovoz and others?
    1. kalibr
      20 February 2022 22: 13
      0
      Quote: Alexey RU64
      I wanted to ask the author if you read the Anglo-Boer War of A. Vinogradsky, at least one of the issues? Or is this information from the collections of Drogovoz and others?

      I don't even know who these people are. I have mainly English-language sources of information. Of the Russians, only Niva magazines for 1899-1902.
      1. Alexey RU64
        Alexey RU64 21 February 2022 00: 02
        -1
        It's clear. There are our modern studies, probably reprinted from English. And Vinogradsky published 3 parts of the 1903 edition. But they are all lost, I accidentally bought the third part at an auction. Basically, you don't care. Sincerely, Alex.
        1. kalibr
          21 February 2022 07: 14
          +1
          You look, Alexey, what happens in the end. This is not a scientific monograph, but a popular essay. Therefore, I consider it inappropriate to involve dozens of sources and multiple passages in a text like: according to Ivanov ... Johnson said ... as Churchill wrote ... Here a measure is needed.
  10. Chief Officer Lom
    Chief Officer Lom 20 February 2022 11: 56
    0
    Quote: Aviator_
    I somehow doubt that the information technology of that time helped the Zulus to know the fate of the Indians.

    And they didn't know. Just an example. They had before their eyes the fate of other African tribes. It's just that we understand more - the last of the Magikan. What Europeans were doing there for several centuries in Africa before the start of the "race for Africa" ​​in the second half of the XNUMXth century is covered in darkness, occasionally dispersed by short glimpses of the surviving reports of the slave traders. How many were killed and driven into slavery, how many tribes and peoples disappeared - no one knows, only assumptions with elements of statistics.
    1. Aviator_
      Aviator_ 20 February 2022 12: 46
      +2
      And they didn't know. Just an example.
      Yes, no examples are needed, everything is clear. It's just that your reference to the Indians is unsuccessful, and so - the African natives knew well what the white man was carrying to them. By the way, about the Indians - remember "The Adventures of Tom Sawyer". There, Mark Twain even portrays Negro Jim as a positive hero, and Injun Joe is the embodiment of absolute evil. S. G. Kara-Murza, whom I mentioned, studied the influence of religion on the colonization of new territories - so the Catholic Spaniards and Portuguese, although they did not stand on ceremony with the natives, nevertheless, things did not come to reservations. But the descendants of Protestants and other Seventh-day Adventists with "May Flower" quickly drove the Chingachgooks to the reservation.
      1. kalibr
        20 February 2022 22: 18
        +1
        Quote: Aviator_
        But the descendants of Protestants and other Seventh-day Adventists with "May Flower" quickly drove the Chingachgooks to the reservation.

        But because they considered life as a ring, and God as a referee. I was not preaching one such. "You punch the devil in the nose, and he gives you a right hook ... And you answer and God raises your glove." A lot of money and cars - God is for you, and so on. You know. So the savage either accepts it or...or. So did the Mormons. You are working well. Savage - no. So bad a priori.
  11. Trapperxnumx
    Trapperxnumx 21 February 2022 11: 23
    +1
    Fine! Interesting topic and good presentation!
    I read about this war from Conan Doyle, but he, like a true Briton and patriot, presented the whole matter exclusively in the "right" light)))
    But the book is interesting.
    1. kalibr
      21 February 2022 17: 01
      +1
      Quote: Trapper7
      But the book is interesting.

      That's it...
  12. Looking for
    Looking for 21 February 2022 20: 59
    0
    Quote: kalibr
    Directly according to the Bible - "I will repay my vengeance!"

    you.if you quote the bible.then quote at least correctly - "Vengeance is mine, and I will repay"?
  13. Basarev
    Basarev 24 February 2022 15: 35
    -2
    The Boers were doomed from the start. There are simply too few resources, too few territories and people, an outdated way of life ... At the first conflict of interest, it was necessary to simply give the British everything they needed. Then they could save their lives and statehood.