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What can a cornered bear do?

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What can a cornered bear do?

Almost throughout the world stories Western countries tried to denigrate Russia/USSR and isolate our country from the rest of the world.


As soon as they didn’t call us: “a thundercloud hanging over Europe”, “gendarme of Europe”, “Mongol-Slavic hordes”, “communist threat” - these are just a small part of the labels that were hung on Russia and the USSR in different historical periods.

Now we are witnessing another attempt to send Russia to the dustbin of history: the United States has launched a frantic activity, trying with all its might to provoke a conflict between a previously united people, artificially divided by deceit and betrayal - between Russia and Ukraine. For this: American and European politicians throw tantrums in the media, America and some European countries pump up Ukraine weapons, States are planning to deploy their troops in Eastern Europe.

The ultimate goal of all this is to force Russia to use armed forces, for example, to protect the inhabitants of the DPR and LPR in response to the provocations of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. And for its part, for this, the United States promises to impose "unprecedented sanctions" on Russia, hoping thereby to drive our economy into the "Stone Age".

This threat is real and quite serious.

In the case of a really wide application of sanctions - disconnection from international banking services, restrictions on the supply of industrial and household goods, as well as access to the Internet, the life of the population in the country may deteriorate by several orders of magnitude.

In fact, if this is not a declaration of war, then the last step before it.

Russia will have to somehow react to these sanctions, and respond harshly enough so that the enemy's population will feel the result in "their own skin". We have no direct options for responding to sanctions, and it is also not very acceptable to unleash a war because of them.

The answer may lie in asymmetric measures, and we will consider some of the potential ones in this article.

Let's divide all the proposed counter-sanction measures according to the degree of their "rigidity" into three levels, respectively, green (relatively mild measures), yellow and red (the most extreme measures).

Some measures may seem “too much” to someone, but after all "à la guerre comme à la guerre", is not it?

Green level


stock storm


One of the most important financial instruments of Western countries are stock exchanges, where securities are traded: shares, bonds and other financial instruments.

As in any market, there is a wide layer of speculators on stock exchanges - companies that, without producing real goods and services, earn on changes in the value of financial instruments. Often their actions cause significant damage to both individual companies and entire market segments (and their country as a whole, including).

Exchange mechanisms can be used to cause significant damage to the enemy's economy. The effectiveness of exchange speculation as a response to sanctions can be increased due to the fact that the goal is not to extract financial profit, but to cause damage - to break not to build.

Another factor contributing to the effective creation of a “stock storm” is that the position of many companies and market segments can be naturally unstable, and it remains only a little pressure on them at the right time, in the right place - "falling push".

Attacks on the stock markets can be carried out by suitably programmed exchange robots that are capable of carrying out trading operations at a speed inaccessible to a person, registered as nominees and companies.


Scheme of interaction of trading robots with financial platforms. Image by wikipedia.org

It is worth noting that financial markets are often prone to excessive influence even by third-party factors, for example, publications in the media or rumors spreading on the Internet.

For example, there was negative information about the owner of a certain company, and its shares immediately fall.

Cheated on his wife?

Called black black?

Got drunk in a bar 30 years ago?

The next day, the capitalization of the company falls by 20% (conditionally).

This tool can and should be used effectively as well.

Cyber ​​attacks


What Russia is constantly accused of is “terrible Russian hackers”. Cyber ​​espionage, influence on the US presidential election and much more.

Well, you have to comply, otherwise it’s even a shame to be uninvolved with such and such an advertisement.


Unofficial emblem of hackers. Image by wikipedia.org

For example, the same trading exchanges can be subjected to virus attacks, which can be very effective in combination with a “stock storm”. First, the shares of the largest companies fell, and then it (the stock exchange) “cut out” altogether.

Why not a scenario for a full-fledged panic?

In general, war on the information battlefield is a multifaceted thing, we considered this issue in more detail in the article Cyber ​​weapons of mass destruction.

Violations of the work of retail chains, infrastructure facilities, commercial enterprises. What can I say - the thoughtless digitization of everything and everything leads to the fact that things no longer belong to the people who own them.

The manufacturer, at its discretion, can disable some of the functions or make them paid - in a car, TV, washing machine or iron.

It is irrational not to use such opportunities in the sanctions confrontation.

Particularly effective may not be a complete disruption of the performance of any equipment, technique or service, but a deterioration in the efficiency and quality of its work - it works a little slower, more errors, more energy consumption, increased load on mechanisms, and so on and so forth.

Such digital sabotage may not be immediately noticeable, but in the aggregate they can cause enormous damage to the enemy’s economy.

A variant of a kind of "Internet privateering" may be considered.

And what, we need to learn from the best - the leading European countries practiced this method of warfare at sea with might and main, why are we worse?

Within the framework of “Internet privateering”, hacker groups can receive information support and immunity on the territory of the Russian Federation, provided that their actions are not directed against Russian interests. And in the US, let them frolic as they want.

The advantage of the above methods is that they do not have to be voiced and acknowledged publicly, since the Internet is always a gray area.

Shelter


We can provide political asylum to all those who oppose the authorities of countries that impose or support sanctions against the Russian Federation - various Edward Snowdens, Julian Assanges and others accused of divulging classified information, sympathizing with Russia or China, inadvertently offending ethnic or sexual minorities, opposing gender insanity.

People like them will be much more active if they know that they can always find protection and asylum in the Russian Federation.

Despite the "democratic" rhetoric, the United States is far from what can be considered a rule of law, it has a lot of its own secrets, the disclosure of which obviously will not positively affect the social and economic situation in the country.

This means that there will always be dissatisfied people who will work with Russia not for fear or money, but out of conviction.


Russia can provide political asylum to American and European dissidents. Image by wikipedia.org

Suspension of agreements


We are talking about various economic agreements, for example, Russia's accession to the WTO or the observance of copyright.

As the injured party, which has suffered unjustified economic damage for no reason and treacherously, we refuse to comply with those international agreements and rules that are not beneficial to us.

Suppose our opponents do not let up, and tighten the financial noose on the economy of our country more and more, and then we move to the yellow level.

yellow level


Information isolation


Internet cut off?

Well, Western countries will also have to get used to isolation, at least partial.

Underwater Internet cables can be chosen as a target.

Deep-sea submarines in combination with autonomous uninhabited underwater vehicles (AUVs) can ensure the physical destruction of submarine cables linking the continents.

Submarine cables, damaged by explosions at several dozen points each, will not be easy to restore.


Transcontinental submarine cables. Image habr.com

In addition to submarine cables, it is possible to provide Internet communication between the continents using communication satellites.

Satellites in high orbits provide narrow data transmission channels with significant delay, and getting to these satellites is difficult, at least imperceptibly.

At the same time, low-orbit global networks of Internet communication satellites, such as Starlink, are being actively developed, and now they may well replace submarine cables.

However, their location in low orbit makes them vulnerable not only to anti-missiles, but also to laser weapons.

The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation have a combat laser complex (BLK) "Peresvet". The exact characteristics, as well as the capabilities of the Peresvet BLK, are classified, and they can only be assumed.

If the Peresvet BLK is only able to temporarily blind the optics of reconnaissance satellites, then the issue is temporarily removed from the agenda.

However, if its capabilities make it possible to inflict more significant damage on low-orbit satellites, then the Peresvet BLK or weapons based on it can be used to disable enemy low-orbit satellites.


There is a possibility that the Russian BLK "Peresvet" is capable of damaging satellites in low orbits. Image by wikipedia.org

To destroy satellites whose orbits do not pass over the territory of the Russian Federation, the Peresvet BLK can be placed on aviation carriers, ships or even submarines.

Unlike kinetic methods of destruction, it is much more difficult to prove the impact on a satellite with a laser - how do we know why it broke?

We need to do it more reliably, everyone knows that Elon Musk uses commercial electronic components, and this is the result ...

Of course, it is possible to damage not only communication satellites, but also other civilian satellites - meteorological, agricultural and others, but definitely the civilian sector - our priority goal is to damage the enemy's economy, and not start a war.

Channels and straits


More recently, the world has witnessed how a small accident in the bottleneck of the Suez Canal caused significant damage to the global economy.

Now let's imagine that there are several such incidents, in different parts of the World Ocean, and these accidents are much more serious.


Some waterways can be blocked relatively easily, but restoring them can be an order of magnitude more difficult. Image by wikipedia.org

How can this be organised?

Thousands of ships pass through the canals and straits, which often change their owners and sail under God knows whose flags. Some of them may be acquired through shell companies, or specialists of a certain profile may be introduced into the crews of such ships, or, if such ships are modern and automated, then malicious code may be embedded in their software.

As a result, a ship capsized in a narrow channel or strait can paralyze traffic for months.

In an even worse scenario, it could be several ships loaded with concrete and collided with each other.

Waiver of sanctions


If tough sanctions are imposed on us, then we may well refuse to comply with sanctions against third countries.

For example, we can start supplying all types of weapons to Iran - long-range anti-aircraft missile systems (SAM), operational-tactical missile systems (OTRK), we can lease several nuclear submarines to them, as was done with India.

It is safe to say that some countries in the region will not be happy about this.

And, of course, you should not focus only on Iran - no restrictions on free trade.

Let's turn off the gas


The threat of cutting off gas supply by Russia has been repeatedly suggested by our Western partners, including as a reason to limit the alleged monopoly position of Gazprom.


And if they don’t take it, we’ll turn off the gas

In itself, such a decision is not the most profitable step for our country.

In addition to falling revenues, this is also undermining the reputation of our country as a reliable supplier. Therefore, this measure can be applied only knowing that the supplies will be blocked one way or another from the “other side”.

For example, if information is received through intelligence channels that from spring, when demand for energy resources will fall, and the United States will begin to gradually increase supplies of liquefied natural gas (LNG), hoping to completely push Russia out of European suppliers of blue fuel by winter, then you can make a leading move - turn off the gas in winter.

When European countries have to choose between a frozen population and industry, they will make an obvious and predictable choice, and the damage to European industry can be enormous - factories in Texas, shut down due to the harsh American winter of 2021, will not let you lie.

red level


The red level is already when there is no time for jokes at all, when the sanctions have reached such a level that there is almost nothing to lose, and the next step is only war.

Eligibility for immigration


Europe loves to settle refugees from all kinds of bantustans. It would be even more understandable if permission to enter was given only to women, children and the elderly, but no, young men of “military age” also “run” to European countries, who quickly get used to a new place and begin to establish their degenerative orders, trying to turn the country that sheltered them, in the same viper from which they fled.

Who are we to interfere with this bright European dream - to shelter all the disadvantaged?

How can it look like?

Two stages.

The first is recruiting teams that gather everyone in African countries (for example, and not only) to move to the European continent in organized groups (preference must be given to men of military age, and no children).

The second is specially purchased ships, the cheapest of what can be purchased, if only to sail from the point of loading to the point of unloading. And then - everyone, welcome on board, and go.

Let the fleets of the countries of Europe decide for themselves what to do - drown the uninvited guests, send them back, put them in camps, or do something else.

Perhaps, during this occupation, they will not have time to poke their nose into the Black Sea and talk about the belonging of the Crimea?

Both hired teams from third world countries and one of the “refugees” can steer the ship - a simple navigator with a laid course, instructions for managing the ship and mooring by running the ship aground off the coast of the selected country.

Also included is a camera with the ability to transfer photos and videos over the network, in which case to show how the evil European military drown the unfortunate refugees.

How will this affect the social and economic stability of the countries of Europe, as well as their unity, if, for example, about 1 new “settlers” are transported to Europe and the UK in a year?

noble privateers


Returning to the problem of privateering.

If before we talked about Internet privateering, now it's time to return to the origins - maritime piracy.

Already, filibusters of the XNUMXst century have provided an increase in the cost of shipping due to an increase in the length of routes (bypassing areas where pirate attacks are possible), as well as an increase in the cost of insurance premiums. And all this is only because of the poor people with RPGs.


Noble privateers of the XXI century. Image by wikipedia.org

And now imagine that someone trained pirates in different regions of the planet, equipped them with modern weapons, means of communication, high-speed motor boats, etc.

How effective will they be in this case?

How much will the risks and costs of maritime transport increase?

But what if someone will provide pirates with information about the routes of movement of ships based on data from space and undercover intelligence?


What if tomorrow the pirates look something like this? Image by wikipedia.org

Such "counter-sanctions" will provide the fleets of potential adversaries with employment for many years to come.

It may turn out that in order to solve the problem of piracy, they will even have to give up some of their humane principles, for example, as before, begin to “hang them on a yardarm”.

cocaine avalanche


The opinion is often expressed that the United States actively contributed to the fact that drugs got and get into the territory of the USSR / Russia.

But is it really?

It's hard to say - the probability of this is quite high, that they didn't interfere, that's for sure.

For the number of drug addicts that appeared after the collapse of the USSR, we should thank the United States in many ways, as the main "sponsor" of the collapse of the USSR.

But even in the United States itself there are many who want to experiment with consciousness. And the combination of a large sales market and a developed economy gives rise to many who want to master this market.

Fortunately, the United States has Latin America at hand, where people do not live so that they are very rich. And as soon as drugs are not brought to the United States - by couriers, planes, even makeshift submarines.

In Mexico, which shares a border with the United States, some drug cartels are often as powerful and influential as the government.

What will happen if they have modern weapons, really modern, including heavy ones?

Quiet small-sized submarines, originally designed to transport combat swimmers, but quite suitable for solving other specific tasks?


Today, drug couriers deliver goods in underwater coffins. Image by wikipedia.org


What will they do tomorrow? Image by wikipedia.org

The government in Mexico may well collapse, and the United States will receive a full-fledged war zone near its border.

The United States itself will be overwhelmed by a wave of drugs, which will lead to such riots that will surpass by an order of magnitude those that were staged by the demoniac BLM activists (an organization that has not yet been recognized as a terrorist organization on the territory of the Russian Federation).

Freedom fighters


During the Cold War, the US and the USSR actively supported "freedom fighters" around the world.

Accordingly, those whom we considered "freedom fighters" were considered terrorists by the United States, and vice versa.

If the support of various groups at that time was aimed at gaining a foothold in the region and expanding their influence, then as a counter-sanction measure it can be used simply to destabilize the situation in certain regions of the planet.

The same AFRICOM command will be knocked off its feet, trying to extinguish dozens of conflicts and coups across the continent.

Collapsed regimes, the rejection of agreements and the endless redistribution of property will make it much more difficult for the United States and its allies to develop the natural resources of developing countries.

In addition, the flow of refugees to European countries will increase, which is quite consistent with the previously announced “right to immigrate”.

Andrews


All the measures given in the article alone may not have a significant effect, but applied in combination, they will lead to a synergistic effect that will make the world shudder, and then those who started and supported all this sanctions mess against Russia will only have to say to themselves - What the hell are we getting into all this?

Are the measures proposed in this article good and humane?

No, they are tough, cruel, unpleasant, and some even disgusting.

But if the choice is between them and the fact that our children will eat grass and roots, as children in North Korea often do, then the choice is quite obvious.

These measures are only a consequence of the actions that can be taken against us, and they simply do not need to lead to this.

Still, no matter how anyone would like, but Russia is not North Korea, and no matter how weak it may be, its capabilities will always be several orders of magnitude higher than those of other victims of American aggression, and losses during any conflict with Russia, be it military or economic, can be unpredictable and unacceptable for all parties.
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  1. Doccor18
    Doccor18 4 February 2022 04: 29
    +94
    ...if the choice is between them and having our children eat grass and roots, as children in North Korea often do, then the choice is quite clear.

    Comparison with the DPRK is epic ...
    Maybe it’s worth starting to invest again in domestic science and education (starting with raising the salaries of teachers, instead of digitalization programs), in the development of industry, petrochemistry, genetics and microbiology, then there will be no need to eat "grass and roots" ...
    1. military_cat
      military_cat 4 February 2022 06: 07
      +19
      our children will eat grass and roots, as children in North Korea often do

      But isn't North Korea an independent geopolitical player that refuses to dance to the tune of the United States, independently choosing its own path, an unbending nuclear-missile power, is that all? Why does a respected author scare him, and not South Korea, which is a mattress pad that sold its sovereignty for jeans, Coca-Cola and plastic surgery?
      1. Deck
        Deck 4 February 2022 06: 26
        +32
        Calls for terrorism look epic! Let's just say boldly. Criminal Code Article 205.2. Public calls for the implementation of terrorist activities, public justification of terrorism or propaganda of terrorism. The author has earned a well-deserved 5 years
        1. AUL
          AUL 4 February 2022 07: 06
          +6
          Quote: Deck
          Calls for terrorism look epic!

          And what to do when the state is driven into a corner from all sides? Show tolerance? Express concern? No, in war, as in war - they answer a blow with a blow, or even two. So that stupid thoughts do not climb into the head of the adversary!
          1. Deck
            Deck 4 February 2022 07: 47
            +22
            And what to do when the state is driven into a corner from all sides


            Blocking SWIFT bullshit - the authorities say we are ready for this. Sovereign Cheburnet is ready. As I understand it, you were greatly upset by personal sanctions against the president's entourage. I grieve with you over the sad fate of Abramovich, Mikhelson and Vekselberg. And sanctions against a mistress are not at all like boys. You can die as a hero with a cry - "For the Motherland! For Rotenberg!"
            1. AUL
              AUL 4 February 2022 10: 26
              +11
              Quote: Deck
              Lock SWIFT bullshit-power they say we are ready for it. Sovereign Cheburnet is ready.
              This is for you too authorities say?
              Quote: Deck
              Я I understand you were greatly upset by personal sanctions against the president's entourage. I mourn with you over the sad fate of Abramovich, Mikhelson and Vekselberg.

              Interesting ... Could you explain why you so you understand my post? Lay out, so to speak, the entire logical chain of your conclusions? I don’t remember something that gave a reason to suspect me of love for the character you mentioned above! Or do you just act according to the principle - throw (feces), something, but stick? Well, success to you in this field, difficult, but necessary! laughing On the site you have a lot of associates, they, in which case, will help you.
              Yes, and read the textbook of the Russian language at your leisure, the section "Syntax and Punctuation" - you will learn a lot of interesting things!
              1. Deck
                Deck 4 February 2022 11: 43
                +8
                I answer. I clearly separate the Motherland and the state. Therefore, I understand that all those knees that your state throws out, which YOU urge to defend by all means, will come out sideways to my Motherland and its people. Incompetence, corruption, disregard for the moral standards accepted in our country, corruption with the help of the media. All this is done in the interests and for the money of the above characters. Which undoubtedly are friends of the authorities, its support, which is confirmed by numerous state awards. Yes, there are many people on the site who share this point of view. Those who are fed from the hands of the state (as the Belarusians say "snarkers") have naturally opposite views. I assume you are one of them.

                To the first question from official sources:
                https://www.gazeta.ru/tech/2020/12/29/13420076/laws.shtml
                https://www.vedomosti.ru/technology/news/2021/09/23/887978-na-obespechenie-raboti-suverennogo-runeta-30-mlrd
                https://www.vedomosti.ru/finance/news/2021/12/09/899810-rossiiskii-analog-swift-uvelichil-chislo-zarubezhnih-uchastnikov-do-38
                1. AUL
                  AUL 4 February 2022 14: 22
                  +9
                  Quote: Deck
                  I clearly separate the Motherland and the state. Therefore, I understand that all those knees that throws yours the state that YOU are calling to defend by all means will come out sideways to my homeland and its people. Incompetence, corruption, disregard for the moral standards accepted in our country, corruption with the help of the media. All this is done in the interests and for the money of the above characters. Which undoubtedly are friends of the authorities, its support, which is confirmed by numerous state awards. Yes, there are many people on the site who share this point of view. Those who are fed from the hands of the state (as the Belarusians say "snarkers") have naturally opposite views.
                  You know, I am ready to subscribe to every word of this paragraph, with the exception of the one I have highlighted. For me, the "state" and the Motherland are completely different concepts. But you did not clarify to me your logic, according to which you enlisted the state and the above-mentioned persons as apologists.
                  Quote: Deck
                  I assume you are one of them.

                  So what are these assumptions based on?
                  Quote: Deck
                  You can die as a hero with a cry - "For the Motherland! For Rotenberg!

                  And here, let's take a closer look!
                  If I have to die a hero - well, this is how fate will turn out - then I will have to. Not for Rotenberg, not for Chubais, not even for the guarantor himself. And for the Motherland. For that quiet street in Kursk where I was born. Over the river where my father took me 7 decades ago to go fishing. For Pioneer Park, where I walked in my youth with girls. For their children and grandchildren. For that plant, finally, where people still work on the systems I developed. This is what I call my homeland. Officials, from the smallest to the guarantor, are not included in this concept. And for this Motherland I am ready to fight and die. Excuse the pathos.
                  But you have a different approach.
                  You can die as a hero with a cry - "For the Motherland! For Rotenberg!"
                  You will not go to die for Roteberg. And you won't go for Putin. And for the state in general, because it is unpleasant for you. I would not want, in which case, to be in the same trench!
                  PS and about the Internet and swift, what you were promised - so you believe! A little more, a little more, and everything will work. Better than foreign (and what about, having no analogues!)
          2. antivirus
            antivirus 4 February 2022 08: 38
            +2
            the author proposed a worse option - tougher than war - all neutrals and the whole world are under attack. in them (neutrals) store PROFITS ALL WARRANTIES.

            AND WHAT IS THE OPPOSITION WITHOUT PROFIT AND MEANING TO WORK-DESTROY ANOTHER ONE?
            shown after the end of the world.
          3. Starover_Z
            Starover_Z 4 February 2022 11: 59
            -1
            Quote: AUL
            And what to do when the state is driven into a corner from all sides? Show tolerance? Express concern? No, in war, as in war - they answer a blow with a blow, or even two. So that stupid thoughts do not climb into the head of the adversary!

            In principle, it is correct, but state officials will not agree to such radical methods, at least "in the open." Unless to use the shadow possibilities of influencing possible performers.
        2. 210ox
          210ox 4 February 2022 08: 08
          +23
          I read the article ... Before the avalanche of cocaine and the training of pirates. It's funny, of course. If it wasn't sad. The author, and the real levers of pressure? It is clear that they are few. Do not roll?
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 4 February 2022 18: 32
            -1
            Quote: 210ox
            The author, and the real levers of pressure?

            You need to know about them.
            Quote: 210ox
            It is clear that they are few. Do not roll?

            I would venture to guess that there are many more of them than we think. hi
            1. syndicalist
              syndicalist 4 February 2022 19: 40
              +1
              Quote: Alex777
              I would venture to guess that there are many more of them than we think.

              I would venture to suggest that a state with 1% of world GDP does not have them at all. It remains only to poison the wells
              1. D16
                D16 4 February 2022 23: 23
                +4
                "I'll buy everything," said the gold, "I'll take everything," said the damask steel "(c). And with one percent you got excited. And the ideas of etching wells give you a Russian-speaking citizen of Israel.
            2. 210ox
              210ox 4 February 2022 20: 12
              -1
              Of course, we don't see the whole iceberg. hi
        3. Snail N9
          Snail N9 4 February 2022 09: 50
          +45
          Well, actually, the "suggestions" of the author of the article, as well as some comments about "turn off the gas" and "we will not give titanium", actually characterize the cheer-quacks, show their mental level - to spoil, ruin, snobbishly turn up their noses from "having no English in the world and "we'll show them" - and nothing more. They don’t even think about anything, why, for them, the authorities will think right for them, or, they live by slogans and what Kisel-Solovey TV pours into their ears. No more. The author's proposals are exactly what they accuse Russia of in the West, what they blame her for. Does the author want to translate these accusations into practice? Prove that in the West, blaming Russia is not lying? And to think about the "asymmetric response", what already, no way? Brain missing? Think about what some people write here correctly "- an asymmetric answer is not what Western partners expect the effect of their sanctions to follow, but exactly the opposite actions - that is, focus on improving life in their country, and not spend money and forces in a deliberately hopeless butting with "Western partners". To begin with, try to get out of all the organizations imposed by the "partners" and cancel the rules imposed by them and start with the Constitution, the budget rule and the financial system, written under the dictation of the Americans, where there is an incomprehensible Central Bank and lots of commercial banks...
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 4 February 2022 20: 19
            -3
            I agree with most of what you have said. Except the ending.

            Quote: Snail N9
            To begin with, try to get out of all the organizations imposed by the "partners" and cancel the rules imposed by them and start with the Constitution, the budget rule and the financial system, written under the dictation of the Americans, where there is an incomprehensible Central Bank

            The states are not at all happy to see the current Constitution of the Russian Federation.
            The budget rule allowed Russia to accumulate money both for
            rearmament, as well as confrontation with the insolent United States.
            In the 90s, I was lucky to communicate with V.V. Gerashchenko. I understand the Central Bank.
            Since then, mistakes have been made and certain conclusions too. hi
        4. Cosm22
          Cosm22 4 February 2022 11: 35
          +19
          Have come ...
          Calls for terrorism, for sabotage, for blackmail (including gas), for cooperation with criminal elements (pirates), for the distribution of drugs at the state level - this, you must understand, is the whole "our response to Chamberlain"?
          Is he exactly like this after the tough and categorical Western answer "no" to the so-called Russian ultimatum? It's all???
          It's a bit watery... Reminds me of a mosquito squeak.
          1. V means B
            V means B 4 February 2022 18: 59
            +7
            And what to do we crushed, and this will not happen.
        5. kamarada
          kamarada 4 February 2022 12: 00
          -10
          And here I openly urge. Start ruining the lives of these creatures. I just understand that with this elite and Russophobes who have settled in the Kremlin, this is not possible.
          1. Cosm22
            Cosm22 4 February 2022 12: 16
            +7
            Yes, it's a business.
            Just do not forget that if such calls lead to real actions, then there is Article 205 in the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation on this score.
            Which provides for sickly terms in places not so remote.
            From 10 to 15 years, and in some cases - from 12 to 20 years in prison.
            1. kamarada
              kamarada 4 February 2022 13: 08
              -17
              Just don't scare me with deadlines. I didn't care. to your UC. Apparently he settled down well at the trough. They openly want to destroy us. And you're afraid to tell the truth. Coward and traitor
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 4 February 2022 16: 20
                +13
                Quote: Kamarada
                Coward and traitor

                And you are more like a provocateur, because such conversations on the site (which is 100% monitored by the special services) can be conducted either by a provocateur or a well-known hero of Russian folk tales. wink
                According to the article - baby talk. There are many more tools, and they are much more effective than privateering. But for their application, Faberge is needed. which "our" colonial government does not have. This can be seen even in what is happening today in Chechnya. hi
                1. V means B
                  V means B 4 February 2022 19: 00
                  +4
                  And most importantly about it in the fed. The media is silent
          2. Bolt cutter
            Bolt cutter 4 February 2022 12: 24
            +7
            I urge. Start spoiling the lives of these creatures
            Get a visa, come and implement your initiative to ruin life. Get a European education in prison wassat
            1. kamarada
              kamarada 4 February 2022 13: 09
              -17
              And you there the same as the previous one.
              1. Bolt cutter
                Bolt cutter 4 February 2022 13: 12
                +5
                you there too
                I'm already there, and almost from the age of majority (London). For my part, I see the picture quite differently.
                1. kamarada
                  kamarada 4 February 2022 13: 17
                  -10
                  So that's why you're pissed off. And let's say I don't give a damn about London and the Anglo-Saxons in general. Let them die. Because if they don’t die, they will continue to crap. And if possible, they will destroy the Russians. And Russian children are more important to me than English ones. And these do not choose methods, as if more humane. As for me, it's high time to plant a beautiful mushroom on this damned island. To make others crap out of fear.
                  1. Bolt cutter
                    Bolt cutter 4 February 2022 13: 21
                    +7
                    and you're pissed off.
                    I'm just funny. I read about the already realized and future "horrors" here and wonder, where are the adequate ones? Censor has almost the same audience.
                    I don't give a damn about London
                    They won't even let you look anyway.
                    1. kamarada
                      kamarada 4 February 2022 13: 22
                      -11
                      I was already there and nothing like that, except for dampness and blacks did not see.
                      1. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 4 February 2022 13: 24
                        +8
                        I was already there
                        And not destroyed belay ? As such, the chance was missed. Or did you feel sorry for the blacks?
                        Well, at least one elevator was cheated by these creatures wassat ?
                      2. kamarada
                        kamarada 4 February 2022 13: 27
                        -11
                        I said my opinion. And responded to threats. No more desire to communicate.
                      3. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 4 February 2022 13: 28
                        +4
                        And responded to threats.
                        Whose threats?
                      4. kamarada
                        kamarada 4 February 2022 13: 38
                        -12
                        There, above, some smart guy scared me of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.
                      5. Cosm22
                        Cosm22 4 February 2022 13: 58
                        +10
                        This smart guy just advises to follow the laws of the Russian Federation.
                        Or at least be aware of their existence.
                      6. kamarada
                        kamarada 4 February 2022 14: 07
                        -11
                        I repeat once again. I spit on the law of the Russian Federation. I express my opinion. I have every right to do so. This is the same law that is written under the dictation of pi. nd. os. ov that rots Russians in Russia? And by what law does the whole West scare and act against Russia. And by what law their politicians and journalists yell that Russians should be punished? And why are they arming and inciting Banderstan?. In general, you can specifically be tolerant. And I will be who I am. You can write a complaint against me to anyone you need. tongue
                      7. Cosm22
                        Cosm22 4 February 2022 14: 12
                        +4
                        I don't knock on moderators. Not in my principles.
                        I'm just curious, how can a person who considers himself Russian and lives on the territory of the Russian Federation, spit on its laws?
                      8. kamarada
                        kamarada 4 February 2022 14: 22
                        -8
                        What just does not happen in the white world. To satisfy your curiosity, I will reveal a secret. I am a citizen of Lithuania. That's how I wrote it, in small letters
                      9. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 4 February 2022 14: 57
                        +3
                        I am a citizen of Lithuania. That's how I wrote it, in small letters

                        Labas dienas, braliukai laughing With a big fig in my pocket wassat
                      10. kamarada
                        kamarada 4 February 2022 15: 00
                        -6
                        I'm not your brother. And never will I. And Labas is not a brother. Look for brothers among Bandera.
                      11. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 4 February 2022 15: 17
                        +4
                        I'm not your brother. And never will I.
                        And it pleases.
                        And Labas is not a brother.
                        Throw that nasty passport in their nasty faces laughing Weak? Or a fig in your pocket is our everything belay ?
                      12. Alex777
                        Alex777 4 February 2022 23: 38
                        +1
                        Along the way wanted a colleague kamarada answer, but wrote to you.
                        Therefore my text
                        Your energy would be, but for peaceful purposes.
                        looks inadequate. Sorry. wink
                      13. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 4 February 2022 23: 40
                        -2
                        All replies were correct.
                      14. Alex777
                        Alex777 4 February 2022 18: 39
                        -6
                        Your energy would be, but for peaceful purposes.
                        You underestimate our leadership.
                        The ball is in the game and Russia will win.
                        Everything will happen beautifully and decisively. hi
                      15. Cosm22
                        Cosm22 4 February 2022 16: 19
                        +8
                        Here it is, Mikhalych...
                        Well, in that case, would you mind satisfying my curiosity a second time?
                        What does the irreconcilable fighter do with RusAphobes in Lithuania, which, as you know, for some reason gravitates towards the filthy West? Isn't it easier to fight RusAphobes and other liberals on the territory of your beloved Russia?
                2. Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira
                  Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira 4 February 2022 14: 55
                  +2
                  Well, since you are already there and, moreover, from the age of majority, then let me be curious, do you also think that Russia is to blame for the energy crisis of 21-22? If I'm not abusing, a couple more questions: Do you agree that the Russian authorities hounded the Skripals and Navalny? And finally, you support the hysteria with the "inevitable" and "unambiguous" attack by Russia on Ukraine ... on the Baltic States ... On Poland ... further down the list. Thanks in advance for the replies!
                  1. Bolt cutter
                    Bolt cutter 4 February 2022 15: 09
                    +1
                    you support the hysteria with the "inevitable" and "unambiguous" attack by Russia on Ukraine ... on the Baltic states.
                    No, I don't. But the precedent of unfolding a proxy-civil war somehow does not look pretty. Moreover, attempts to raise the internal rating on this.
                    with the fact that the Russian authorities hounded the Skripals and Navalny?
                    Most likely not, or the competence of the special services has been completely lost. An illegal immigrant from Albania will kill any Skripal for 20 thousand, and even do business with his trunk. But the story of the spirekeepers doesn't add up.
                    Is Russia to blame for the energy crisis of 21-22?
                    The banal greed of all parties to the contract is to blame here.
                    But spreading internal hysteria about the fact that we will freeze them all and then cover them with Poseidon and caliber and add khibiny is at least stupid. Because the probability of aggression (chito analytically) increases. And ultimatums are already on the verge of a foul. You have to hold on properly.
                    1. Alex 34091
                      Alex 34091 4 February 2022 16: 44
                      +1
                      The banal greed of all parties to the contract is to blame here.
                      But spreading internal hysteria about the fact that we will freeze them all and then cover them with Poseidon and caliber and add khibiny is at least stupid. Because the probability of aggression (chito analytically) increases. And ultimatums are already on the verge of a foul. You have to hold on properly.
                      They have been holding on for 30 years, but something doesn’t work out, apparently sometimes you need to show your teeth
                      1. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 4 February 2022 16: 45
                        +1
                        sometimes you have to show your teeth
                        If you first grow them, then it will be unnecessary to show them. Now, did the ultimatum help the cause?
                      2. Alex777
                        Alex777 4 February 2022 22: 54
                        +3
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        sometimes you have to show your teeth
                        If you first grow them, then it will be unnecessary to show them. Now, did the ultimatum help the cause?

                        The fact that the ultimatum would not be accepted was immediately clear.
                        Simultaneously exit from Afghanistan and fulfillment of conditions
                        Russia is not only Biden, no one in the States will survive.
                        And the question is why an ultimatum was delivered, and in such
                        form is the most interesting and correct question. hi
                      3. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 4 February 2022 22: 58
                        -2
                        Why was the ultimatum given?
                        It looks like a gopnitskaya attempt to "take on the weak" of these fat and rich Anglo-Saxons. Only they themselves will take anyone - this is not Ukraine laughing .
                      4. Alex777
                        Alex777 4 February 2022 23: 22
                        +6
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        It looks like a gopnitskaya attempt to "take on the weak" of these fat and rich Anglo-Saxons.

                        Take on the weak winners in the Cold War?
                        Who dictated the rules of behavior to the world for 30 years?
                        No. It's more like a lure into a trap.
                        For the enemy to take the bait, he must believe
                        which wins. That he has everything under control.
                        Then he will make a wrong move and lose.
                        IMHO, of course.
                        Who has the initiative in developing the situation? wink
                        For a number of reasons, I am sure that "under the carpet" is something
                        happening. We just don't see it yet...
                      5. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 4 February 2022 23: 33
                        -1
                        "under the carpet" something
                        going on.
                        And what could it be? Miracles do not happen, and certainly not dragged into the trap of the winners in the Cold War and not kept there.
                      6. Alex777
                        Alex777 4 February 2022 23: 43
                        +2
                        You understand that our format of communication
                        does not encourage excessive frankness?
                        I will try to answer figuratively: you are young
                        did you do any martial arts?
                      7. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 4 February 2022 23: 46
                        -1
                        did you do any martial arts?
                        Combat chess, but what?
                      8. Alex777
                        Alex777 4 February 2022 23: 52
                        +2
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        Battle chess

                        I don't quite understand what you mean.
                        In ordinary chess, it happened
                        play at the right time. With masters.
                        It happens that zugzwang leads to
                        defeat even grandmasters. bully
                      9. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 4 February 2022 23: 54
                        -2
                        what do you mean
                        That it doesn't matter. There are no aces in the sleeves and magic spells and there cannot be. All possible tools are known.
                      10. Alex777
                        Alex777 4 February 2022 23: 59
                        +2
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        All possible tools are known.

                        About how many wonderful discoveries we have,
                        Prepare an enlightened spirit,
                        And experience, son of difficult mistakes ...

                        Well. Positions are fixed.
                        Therefore, let's wait and see.
                        Have a good night. bully
                        PS. Never liked Britain. The Thames was amazing. With the flow...
                        During the tour of the Thames, I was shown buildings, cathedrals and
                        they said that their architects went to the States and built
                        there are exactly the same, but 2 times more. lol
                      11. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 5 February 2022 00: 14
                        -3
                        Never liked Britain
                        Britain most likely did not notice this smile .
                        their architects left for the States
                        The amateur tour guide could not name a couple of names, I suppose lol
                      12. Alex777
                        Alex777 5 February 2022 00: 20
                        +2
                        lol
                        You noticed. You don't need anything else.
                        And the same for Britain. yes
                        One King George, in the Tower,
                        my height. The rest, this
                        just dwarfs. Funny.
                        PS. And yes, crows are noble ...
                      13. Alex777
                        Alex777 5 February 2022 00: 29
                        +2
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        The amateur tour guide could not name a couple of names, I suppose

                        Called. Why. He is also a native Londoner.
                        Yes, only to Britain equally to me. Forgot them already.
                        But if you are interested, you can easily find them. yes
                      14. military_cat
                        military_cat 5 February 2022 04: 58
                        +3
                        Quote: Alex777
                        The fact that the ultimatum would not be accepted was immediately clear.

                        Wow.
                        How.
                        That's interesting.

                        It was immediately clear to you that the ultimatum would not be accepted, BUT For some reason, you proved to me that Biden has problems there, problems here, Afghanistan here, hypersound there, the bet on globalism has greatly crippled the States, loss of control, OPEC + stand shoulder to shoulder, the need for a mediator in negotiations with China and Iran, three wars they will not pull, they have almost a "perfect storm", therefore, guarantees that NATO will not advance for the sake of all this is the least that they are ready to offer us.
                        And they even wondered how I doubted such undoubted things.

                        Why is that?
                      15. Alex777
                        Alex777 5 February 2022 10: 53
                        +3
                        Oops! And you broadcast from London, or what? lol
                        Stock up on popcorn. The game is going long (long game).
                        What I was talking about will happen before your eyes. bully
                        Well, what do you have against the "perfect storm"? Goes.
                        Maybe Ukraine and Georgia have already been accepted into NATO? Not at all.
                        Wait until November. You will see for yourself after the elections.
                        As I said, the States themselves will do the main work.
                      16. military_cat
                        military_cat 5 February 2022 11: 06
                        +2
                        You said that NATO is ready to give guarantees of no progress. But guarantees of no progress mean accepting an ultimatum. This contradicts your current words, as if it was clear from the very beginning that the ultimatum would not be accepted. Will it or won't it? Was it clear or not?
                      17. Alex777
                        Alex777 5 February 2022 11: 09
                        +1
                        You need patience and more patience.
                        States are ready to negotiate. GDP is busy.
                        All the fun starts in March. bully
                      18. military_cat
                        military_cat 5 February 2022 11: 17
                        +1
                        Interesting things will always begin, and in March, and in April, and in May, but so what about your position on the ultimatum, which of your two contradictory wordings ("we are ready to give guarantees of non-promotion" / "it was clear from the very beginning, that will not be accepted") do you really adhere?
                      19. Alex777
                        Alex777 5 February 2022 11: 30
                        +2
                        Some Ukrainian stubbornness in you.
                        It's enough for me too... bully

                        The fact that the ultimatum would not be accepted was immediately clear.
                        Simultaneously exit from Afghanistan and fulfillment of conditions
                        Russia is not only Biden, no one in the States will survive.
                        And the question is why an ultimatum was delivered, and in such
                        form is the most interesting and correct question.

                        I repeat: the States are ready, but they cannot. Till.
                        The introduction of "crippling sanctions" against the Russian Federation
                        lead to unpredictable consequences
                        both in the States and in Europe in particular.
                        The process is underway. That in the end the interests
                        Russia will be taken into account, not behind the scenes like this
                        is being done now, but through the creation of a new
                        security systems in Europe - I'm sure.
                      20. military_cat
                        military_cat 5 February 2022 11: 54
                        +1
                        Thank you. I just don't let myself be "balloted," as Garant put it. :) That is, the correct answer is "an ultimatum will be accepted (later)". And the answer "it was immediately clear that the ultimatum would not be accepted" is wrong. It’s not quite clear then why it was written, but OK,
                      21. Alex777
                        Alex777 5 February 2022 13: 19
                        0
                        Quote: military_cat
                        That is, the correct answer is "an ultimatum will be accepted (later)." And the answer "it was immediately clear that the ultimatum would not be accepted" is wrong.

                        It was clear that the ultimatum would not be accepted immediately, but later. wink
                      22. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 5 February 2022 12: 53
                        -6
                        Have Ukraine and Georgia already been accepted into NATO?
                        They simply cannot afford NATO membership. Balts, by the way, maybe they are there.
                      23. Alex777
                        Alex777 5 February 2022 13: 35
                        0
                        https://iz.ru/news/339916
                        Perhaps you will be interested.
                        I personally know a person who
                        received an award for being Georgians
                        believed that Russia would not interfere.
                      24. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 5 February 2022 13: 42
                        -3
                        Handsomely yes . The kitten thwarted the lion's plans to eat the ram. Do you believe in such news?
                      25. Alex777
                        Alex777 5 February 2022 17: 14
                        0
                        It was in 2008 before my very eyes.
                        He who has ears, let him hear. bully
                        Saakashvili found out through all the channels he had -
                        what will be the reaction if he attacks. And everyone told him
                        "Dive, it's not deep there." He dived. Everyone knows the rest.
                        I mentioned this in order to demonstrate the scale.
                      26. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 5 February 2022 17: 17
                        0
                        He who has ears, let him hear.
                        Georgia? yes, with the same Estonia, such an approach would not have passed. Even without NATO, a successful state will be protected by its citizens. Not applicable to Georgia with a paycheck of one hundred bucks.
                      27. Alex777
                        Alex777 5 February 2022 17: 38
                        0
                        All clear. You are off topic.
                        All the best, don't worry. bully
                      28. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 5 February 2022 17: 41
                        -1
                        All the best, don't be sick
                        Thanks, same to you. But I can get sick - it's free here, and the sick leave is paid at a time.
                      29. Alex 34091
                        Alex 34091 23 February 2022 16: 39
                        0
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        He who has ears, let him hear.
                        Georgia? yes, with the same Estonia, such an approach would not have passed. Even without NATO, a successful state will be protected by its citizens. Not applicable to Georgia with a paycheck of one hundred bucks.

                        Without NATO, Estonia with great monetary rewards (paychecks) would have been eaten without any problems. As well as other Baltic countries. You can't measure everything in terms of money. Armament and support, yes, but the readiness of citizens for protection, no.
                      30. ROSS_51
                        ROSS_51 6 February 2022 02: 40
                        0
                        Quote: Alex777
                        https://iz.ru/news/339916
                        Perhaps you will be interested.
                        I personally know a person who
                        received an award for being Georgians
                        believed that Russia would not interfere.

                        Do you think that someone from the Russian special services received an award for the fact that Saakashvili opened fire from Gradov on Russian peacekeepers? Isn't it too cool?
                      31. Alex777
                        Alex777 6 February 2022 12: 44
                        0
                        Quote: ROSS_51
                        Isn't it too cool?

                        53 people received awards. GRU and SVR.
                    2. V means B
                      V means B 4 February 2022 19: 04
                      +2
                      And you definitely have it there, this is an energy crisis?
                      1. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 4 February 2022 22: 27
                        -2
                        you definitely have it there this is an energy crisis
                        Prices have gone up by 15%. In the spring there will be another recalculation. And so everything is old.
                    3. Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira
                      Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira 4 February 2022 19: 31
                      0
                      I am glad that not everything is unambiguous for you, but it upsets the readiness to attract the distant Fatherland to some kind of proxy war anyway, without noticing the Proxy War in relation to it.
                      Bad Russia, familiar to everyone, has been saying for several years in a row, sit down and negotiate. They couldn’t do it themselves, they prepared everything for you, you agreed - go and solve the problem ... but your islanders, without any problems and at least some screens, dragged 2000 rackets, sent instructors, brought the contingent, they are wailing about an imminent attack, sanctions have begun to compose and wave them .... but Russia is still to blame, is it strange ?! Well, for freezing .... there are no pipes to your island, but there are still problems! Might be worth a look?
                      1. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 4 February 2022 22: 23
                        -3
                        dragged 2000 rackets, sent instructors
                        Kiev is technically legitimate. And if you help them, you can fuck with them. I repeat, this clearly smells of squeezing out border areas using a combination of the loyalty of the population and military strength.
                        .but Russia is still to blame, strange
                        in Russia, the Anglo-Saxons are to blame for everything, so why not comply? Politics.
                        distant Fatherland
                        Struggling to use the diaspora as a tool for constant pressure on the governments of the Baltic republics. The selfishness of working with the diaspora was visible to the naked eye.
                      2. Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira
                        Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira 4 February 2022 22: 52
                        +3
                        I like your confidence in your own correctness .... especially when you consider that from there, from London, of course, you know better!
                      3. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 4 February 2022 22: 55
                        -3
                        from there, from London, of course, you know better!
                        Many details are really visible from here.
                        I like your confidence in your own correctness
                        And I am amused by the fighting spirit of the forum population.
                      4. Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira
                        Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira 4 February 2022 23: 35
                        +3
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        And I am amused by the fighting spirit of the forum population.

                        Well, fine ! On the island, they must understand that Russia has solved its problems, solves and will solve itself. Without regard to the delirium of Uncle Borya and the Baltic walks on the armor of Aunt Lisa wink
                      5. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 4 February 2022 23: 39
                        0
                        Russia solved its problems, solves and will solve itself. Carelessly
                        And screech heart-rendingly when others do the same, and more successfully.
                      6. Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira
                        Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira 4 February 2022 23: 47
                        +3
                        Be objective, don't disappoint me, you weren't born on an island! Russia absolutely calmly stated its demands to NATO and the United States. It clearly outlined its position and proposals for common security. The squealing and hysterics about Russia's "attack" on Ukraine, in particular, and Europe, in general, do not rush from Red Square at all stop You are not blind, you see how rapidly the dates, milestones, accents are changing ... Now they are already saying that they said only once and by chance and in general, peace to the world, Donbass Minsk agreements! Tell your people there, let them solve their own problems, you have more than them ....
                      7. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 5 February 2022 12: 59
                        -2
                        dragged 2000 rackets
                        An inexpensive gift for a close acquaintance. London gives Scotland £41bn per year for closeness smile (13 Queen Elizabeth aircraft carriers of 3 billion each or poti 4 HMS Vanguard nuclear submarines) and does not take a steam bath. It's completely different money. So get a cheap semi-colony, why not?
        6. Hypertension
          Hypertension 4 February 2022 12: 50
          +7
          Quote: Deck
          Calls for terrorism look epic! Let's just say boldly.

          Yes, what an "epic" there ... Against the background of the threats of a State Duma deputy to cut off his head, it's so ... flowers ... And such rhetoric (and this will remain rhetoric - no more) will appear more and more often. People need to do something. For this, there is nothing better than the "good old external enemy."
          The author scares Europe with migrants... Let him look at Russia. Migrant schools where Russian parents are afraid to send their children, migrant areas where it is better not to go in the evenings. Recently, three migrant girls beat a Russian girl in Samara. In Obnisk, a third of the population are migrants...
        7. Alex 34091
          Alex 34091 4 February 2022 16: 32
          -5
          Terrorism is when you are blown up with a parked jihadmobile near your house, the author is not talking about this.
        8. businessv
          businessv 4 February 2022 23: 40
          +2
          Quote: Deck
          Calls for terrorism look epic!

          Well, in this case, these are not direct appeals, but a discussion of possible scenarios for the development of events, no one will pull the article out of context, I think. smile
        9. Shelest2000
          Shelest2000 5 February 2022 13: 15
          -1
          Calls for terrorism look epic!

          There is absolutely nothing unethical about the need for the survival of a country. This is war, and in war, white gloves are unacceptable when you fight with scum. In this war, all means are good when you fight for your survival. There are two options here - either the country died or the country survived. No others. And if you survived, then do not care how and whom you defeated. Winners are not judged. They yelp at them, but they are afraid to open their mouths wide.
      2. Detnix
        Detnix 4 February 2022 11: 35
        -3
        Not geopolitical, and not even regional, so small a pimple that, although it itches, does not reach the hands to pick it up.))
      3. Sergey Sfiedu
        Sergey Sfiedu 4 February 2022 23: 18
        +5
        But isn’t the DPRK an independent geopolitical player that refuses to dance to the tune of the United States, independently choosing its own path, an unbending nuclear-missile power?
        - a small sovereign monarchy of the Kims, where the people have no rights, and the Fuhrer is a deity - the dream of all jingoistic patriots.
        South Korea which mattress pad
        - which is one of the great economies of the world. Calling it a mattress pad is just not knowing anything about it.
      4. Escobar
        Escobar 5 February 2022 09: 21
        +1
        I think, on naked patriotism, but with an empty stomach, you won’t live long, as in the DPRK. Life in North Korea https://youtu.be/ZpUKJ6-LMI8 and life in South Korea https://youtu.be/BpzblZceMDg
        Feel the difference. The price of North Korean "great power" and independence is one of the poorest nations in the world and the transformation of the country into a lifelong labor camp, where the majority of the population is plowed for pennies for the benefit of the top and the leader.
    2. Alekseev
      Alekseev 4 February 2022 06: 57
      +6
      Comparisons with the DPRK are somewhat stupid, it's like comparing horseradish and a finger.
      And, just do, too many letters, mixed real and all sorts of fantasy.
      For the US and NATO, "hellish sanctions" will mean a multiple reduction in their own security due to the need to target them with new nuclear deterrence forces in sufficient numbers. And the West, of course, understands this.
      For the EU, sanctions are an energy crisis, rising production costs and a drop in competitiveness.
      The rupture of relations between the Russian Federation and this is chaos in many areas of patent rights, the WTO, etc., beneficial to the West.
      And in a country that sells food for 30 billion, no one will starve, and no one will eat grass, and now consumer goods are produced, in general, not by the United States, but by China.
      The world has changed and let them shove their sanctions ...
      We just need to restore our internal order" and everything will be fine.
      1. military_cat
        military_cat 4 February 2022 07: 13
        +4
        Quote: Alekseev
        "hellish sanctions" will mean a multiple decrease in their own security due to the need to target them with new nuclear deterrence forces in sufficient numbers

        It will only have an effect if we manage to convince them that we are ready to unleash a nuclear war because of the sanctions. (That is, it won't.)

        Quote: Alekseev
        The world has changed and let them shove their sanctions ...

        But this is more like a real prospect - to pretend that the sanctions do not matter to us, and to tighten our belts.
        1. Aleksandr21
          Aleksandr21 4 February 2022 08: 14
          -7
          Quote: military_cat
          But this is more like a real prospect - to pretend that the sanctions do not matter to us, and to tighten our belts.


          In fact, if Russia begins to respond harshly, then everyone will have to tighten their belts .... many simply do not understand how Russia can respond and what strengths it has, so they think in stereotypes about a gas station and an economy torn to shreds.

          What is the main problem in the world right now? Besides Covid? This is inflation, the Fed and other center. banks have poured more than $12 trillion into the economy, and it goes without saying that the cost of goods and services has skyrocketed, and now we have to curb price growth by raising rates. What is remarkable about Russia in this picture? It is the largest supplier of energy resources in the world, and the volumes of energy resources that it supplies to Europe significantly affect production in the EU, and if tomorrow there are tough sanctions with SWIFT shutdown, then you just need to cut off the supply of energy resources to the West in order to evaluate what **** ** will start after this step. Even if the United States increases shale gas production and Qatar and Azerbaijan help them in supplying energy resources to Europe, it will still not be possible to replace such volumes of gas in a short time, and it is far from certain that they will physically have such volumes, i.e. the price tag for energy resources in Europe will break through several ceilings at once and will certainly affect foreign markets, including in the USA .... prices for goods and services in Europe and the USA will skyrocket and it will not be easy for Europeans and Americans to keep the situation, I even admit that in The US will start a Republican counterattack along with the population that will take to the streets due to the increase in the prices of gasoline and essential goods ... and it will certainly be possible to put an end to the US-EU Green Agenda.

          Therefore, Russia has its own trump cards, although it’s far from a fact that we will go so far, but (conditionally) we can bring down the world (even without the use of nuclear weapons and the army). As for military-technical measures, if we are driven into a corner, we can try to return to Latin America and target the United States, and through Kaliningrad and Belarus, target our other NATO "friends".

          And of course, you need to enlist the support of China, as one of the largest economies in the world, I think that the GDP did not just go to the opening of the Olympics and in a conversation with Xi, support for China and Russia will be discussed in the event of a sanction.
          1. Aleksandr21
            Aleksandr21 4 February 2022 08: 44
            -10
            PS Russophobes can put as many minuses as you like, this will not change reality. Europe is heavily dependent on Russian energy resources and in the event of restrictions on the supply of gas, this will affect the whole world.
            1. Fan-fan
              Fan-fan 4 February 2022 11: 09
              +13
              I explain popularly: the harm from mutual sanctions is approximately the same, i.e. we will cause them a conditional loss of 1 trillion dollars and they will cause us approximately the same damage, but our economy is conditionally estimated at 2 trillion, and theirs is conditionally 22 trillion. As a result, we lose half of everything we have, and they lose one twenty-second part. Well, who will win?
              Understand, I do not call for surrender, I call not to talk about accelerations and breakthroughs, but to really raise and develop our economy and the standard of living of the population.
              1. Aleksandr21
                Aleksandr21 4 February 2022 13: 42
                -2
                Quote: Fan-Fan
                Understand, I do not call for surrender, I call not to talk about accelerations and breakthroughs, but to really raise and develop our economy and the standard of living of the population.


                Is anyone against it? I am for it. You just need to understand that in any case there will be sanctions (they already exist) and there will be more, and you need to learn how to live with this. But sanctions are mutual losses, and if we are beaten, then we need to respond, there will be tough sanctions, which means we need to respond harshly, and if we don’t respond, then everyone and sundry will beat us.

                For example, let's take the Donbass, tomorrow the Armed Forces of Ukraine will begin a conditional offensive to clean up the LDNR, and we will have two options 1) Intervene (no matter at what level) and get sanctions. 2) Do not interfere and watch how our citizens are killed.

                Or another example, the United States is deploying medium-range missiles and a missile defense system near our western borders, targeting the Western part of the country and major cities (Moscow, St. Petersburg, etc.) + limiting the possibility of our retaliatory strike using nuclear weapons and reaching acceptable losses for the United States .... and this is not fantasy, everything is moving towards this. Don't answer too? And if we respond with military-technical measures, we will get new sanctions. In general, sanctions can now be obtained for any reason, if there is a desire, but the West has it.
          2. Bolt cutter
            Bolt cutter 4 February 2022 12: 28
            +5
            but (conditionally) bring down the world
            With 1.55% of world GDP?
            1. V means B
              V means B 4 February 2022 19: 06
              +4
              And suddenly)) Let me dream)
    3. Cat Kuzya
      Cat Kuzya 4 February 2022 08: 23
      +21
      And you can also bomb Voronezh. What will be done, I don’t even doubt it at all - there will be a total rise in the price of everything and everything in Russia, a further increase in taxes and fees for the population, a further increase in bans and tightening the screws on the population, another predatory pension reform and much more like response to Western sanctions. This is all we can do.
      1. Per se.
        Per se. 4 February 2022 10: 34
        +13
        Quote: Kuzya the Cat
        This is all we can do.
        They can still refuse Polish apples, say "Let them just try" or "They won't get off with tomatoes" ...
        The American media are indignant: Russian billionaire Yevgeny Shvidler moored his Le Grand Blue yacht off the coast of New York so that it blocked the view of the symbol of the city - the Statue of Liberty.


        One could see in this a great protest from the "patriot" of Russia.
        We are in capitalism, in full, under the WTO, the IMF, transnational monopolies, and, with the accounts of our "elite" in enemy banks. Why be surprised here, how to bite the "nursing hand of the West"?
      2. V means B
        V means B 4 February 2022 19: 07
        +1
        And again Voronezh, if I lived there, I would have already moved.))
    4. Tank jacket
      Tank jacket 4 February 2022 09: 45
      +7
      I understand why the author kept silent about such measures as lifting the ban on investments in rubles and the ban on the export of capital.
      Or, for example, the development and implementation of an ideology and the consolidation of this ideology in the Constitution?
      Do you understand? laughing
      Don't get rid of the tomatoes...
    5. Evgeny Ivanov_5
      Evgeny Ivanov_5 4 February 2022 09: 56
      +4
      Too late to drink Borjomi. It is easier for big business to arrange a color revolution than to suffer losses. Forgot about the collusion of metallurgists? No state intervention and call for patriotism helped. Everyone was sent to the forest. And now they are bringing down claims to the FAS. Now they will pinch cookies in England and go to create Maidans. Or how about Kennedy ...
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      1. mojohed2012
        mojohed2012 4 February 2022 07: 56
        +7
        Not even nasty things, but soft-bodied giveaways with the West.
        Still, we are waiting: What will the guarantor say and do in response to the West's savory spit in the direction of the Russian Federation's ultimatum on security guarantees.
        If this ultimatum was to "separate NATO and the United States for the next negotiations," then this is a clear weakness of the Russian Federation in front of the aggressors, when you are being squeezed from all sides, filling you with frenzied Russophobia, and you are groaning, snotty and wiping yourself, which will lead to our demise as a state already once for sure.
        Or if this is a groundwork for "the decisive and large-scale deployment of new weapons by the Russian Federation without regard for shouts from the West" or "preparation of some decisive actions in the economy that will knock the chair out from under the dollar and the hegemony of the West" - then we will soon find out.
        But, something from the languid lips of the guarantor comes only resentment and endless moaning like "well, we asked us to listen and understand, withdraw the troops, taking into account our concerns, and the West gave us a savory kick in the ass in response. How not culturally and not fair!!!". Moreover, the West in the person of Nuland and Psaki continues to humiliate us - comparing us with a fox in a chicken coop and with negotiations in the form of us as circus performers.
        1. V means B
          V means B 4 February 2022 19: 12
          +2
          Yes, in my opinion, they have already forgotten that they put up some kind of ultimatum there. There are already other things - the Olympics, though without an anthem and a flag, etc., etc.
      2. Cat Kuzya
        Cat Kuzya 4 February 2022 08: 33
        +17
        Let me propose? A real and effective response to the "sanctions" of the West, and not those petty nasty things, moreover, illegal ones that the author proposes and which will only give another reason to blame Russia?
        It is necessary: ​​1- exit from the WTO and patent law, 3- tell from the UN rostrum who actually developed Covid-19 and unleashed the global corona-craze, 3- cancel the results of the predatory privatization of the 90s and nationalize all enterprises owned by Russian thieves and their Western patrons, 4-liquidate the Central Bank and all commercial banks - there should be one bank in the country - the State Bank, cancel the free conversion of the ruble, 5-cancel the introduced pension reform and return the retirement terms to the previous values, supplementing the insurance, funded pension system, 6-allow trade tax-free and provide services to citizens, if they do not involve hired labor, 7-introduce the "Chinese" system of selection of managerial personnel, 8- liquidate the Duma and leave its functions to the Council of Federations and the Cabinet of Ministers, etc., etc.
        1. Evgeny Ivanov_5
          Evgeny Ivanov_5 4 February 2022 10: 01
          -6
          Well, yes. And also Zyu in general secretaries and a planned economy. Back to the USSR with all the most negative manifestations of late stagnation. And Chubais in the premiere. That's when exactly Maidan will be very soon.
        2. Ilya22558
          Ilya22558 4 February 2022 11: 33
          +14
          They forgot an important point: the trial of the stealing "effective managers" and real terms with the complete confiscation of property not only of themselves but also of family members.
  3. Far B
    Far B 4 February 2022 04: 43
    +43
    Russia will have to somehow respond to these sanctions, and respond quite harshly
    since 2014, the same thing - "we will have to react, and rather harshly." And where? Where is the tough reaction, citizens, I ask you? But no. And it won't. Because our "elites", including the "leader", are quite integrated into the world system. And they are not interested in any tough answers / reactions, because in this case they will really become outcasts in the West, and they have not considered Russia their home for a long time - just a place to get money. They are quite "citizens of the world" for themselves, and they keep their grandmothers there, and send their children there.
    Although Russia really has something to answer. Starting with energy and resources, ending with the return of the normal, human ideology of socialism, which, against the backdrop of the mess that is happening in the world, is quite capable of being very much in demand again. But for this, ideological people, moreover, people with steel balls, must be at the helm of the country. And this is not observed. Alas. So all the moaning about the fact that "We can ..." will remain just unrealizable Wishlist. Again, alas.
    1. bandabas
      bandabas 4 February 2022 05: 45
      +21
      But they became tougher towards the population of their country. One "pension reform" is worth something. You can't talk about "import substitution". He is not. But there is "Ros Na-Na".
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 4 February 2022 16: 00
        -15
        "You can't even talk about 'import substitution'. It doesn't exist." There are at least more than 2000 areas in critical areas for Russia, software and microelectronics have been completed, but work is underway on them.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 4 February 2022 16: 30
          +5
          Quote: Vadim237
          There are at least more than 2000 areas in critical areas for Russia, software and microelectronics have been completed, but work is underway on them.

          Vadik, your caravan (which goes despite the barking of dogs laughing ), apparently goes in the best traditions of Moses, who led the Jews through the desert for 40 years, when it could be covered in two weeks. wink
    2. samarin1969
      samarin1969 4 February 2022 05: 57
      +9
      Quote: Dalny V
      since 2014, the same thing - "we will have to react, and rather harshly." And where? Where is the tough reaction, citizens, I ask you? But no. And it won't. Because our "elites", including the "leader", are quite integrated into the world system. And they are not interested in any tough answers / reactions, because in this case they will really become outcasts in the West, and they have not considered Russia their home for a long time - just a place to get money. They are quite "citizens of the world" for themselves, and they keep their grandmothers there, and send their children there.

      hi This, in fact, is the essence of the situation about which a lot has been written.
      The issue of Donbass smoothly migrated from the issue of terror against everything Russian in Ukraine to the plane of SP-2 and the spread of NATO. In Ukraine, the fascist regime differs from Hitler's only in the scale of repressions. The state "stratifies" society: Ukrainians, other peoples, and below - Russians. War crimes - for a whole library of "White Books". But officials are "embarrassed" about this issue.
      Play "Get up, huge country..." for the corporate interests of Gazprom - just absurd!
      Even in 8 years, it was possible to rebuild the state from a raw materials appendage, at least in the semblance of Turkey.
    3. military_cat
      military_cat 4 February 2022 06: 40
      +1
      Quote: Dalny V
      Where is the tough reaction, citizens, I ask you? But no. And it won't. Because our "elites", including the "leader", are quite integrated into the world system.

      Not so much because (although this too), but because there are no necessary capabilities. Even from the article under discussion, this can be seen, the ideas of the level of "shit under the door" or, in some places, "shoot yourself in the foot so that their clothes are splashed." Initially, apparently, it was assumed that the "tough reaction" was the creation of Zircons, Vanguards, Petrels, Poseidons, "no one listened to us, listen now." And it was a good plan, until it turned out that it did not work. Well, that is, they want to negotiate for them, but they don’t fulfill the requirements. And then there is a dead end, and the way back has also been cut off since 2014.
    4. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 4 February 2022 12: 31
      +3
      our "elites", including the "leader", are quite integrated into the world system
      The most fun is not only the elites. All Russians are embedded. And even if you are not as rich as you yourself would like, but at a completely acceptable level.
  4. KKND
    KKND 4 February 2022 05: 38
    +16
    The evil Americans brought something to Mitrofanov. That's where such hatred and such "glitches" come from. If it hadn't been imported, he wouldn't have accepted it. wassat
  5. parusnik
    parusnik 4 February 2022 06: 27
    +13
    In the case of a really wide application of sanctions - disconnection from international banking services, restrictions on the supply of industrial and household goods, as well as access to the Internet, the life of the population in the country may deteriorate by several orders of magnitude.
    .... Or maybe easier? So that life would not deteriorate, to produce household and industrial goods? Ahhh...no money? laughing So the measures proposed by the author also need money .. But we have already heard "There is no money, but you hold on", "go into business" ... laughing
  6. nikvic46
    nikvic46 4 February 2022 06: 28
    +2
    The hype about the coming war, the shutdown of the Internet - all this is not true. Our military potential is able to keep peacetime for a long time. To use criminals for your own purposes means to become a criminal yourself. Why didn’t the author suggest undermining all the railways that provide us with imports. The Internet is primarily money. export, for low-grade shows. We amplify the desires of Americans a thousand times. There must be objectivity in judgments. We are not under siege. But if someone has such a desire to be in it, then as they say ....
    1. military_cat
      military_cat 4 February 2022 06: 54
      -1
      Quote: nikvic46
      Our military potential is able to keep peacetime for a long time.

      As far as I understand, no one seriously suggests that it will cease to be peaceful (except for a possible local conflict). The point is that it will become less and less prosperous.
      1. nikvic46
        nikvic46 4 February 2022 07: 21
        -1
        A local conflict is possible only because of a big provocation against us. And not because of a thousand words in the press.
  7. Lykases1
    Lykases1 4 February 2022 06: 49
    +24
    To be honest, not an article, but some kind of nonsense. Of course, the author is entitled to his opinion, but this is clearly too much. Why engage in piracy, hacking. Russia is still an important supplier of resources. If we are disconnected from the international system, how will we be paid? Bags of money to carry? Here access to technologies can deprive. Here is a question for the leadership - what did they do in Putin's four five-year plans? Why didn't they develop anything at home? In any case, it's never too late to start. That there is no money in the country - I do not agree.
    1. vargo
      vargo 4 February 2022 07: 19
      +4
      Who said they didn't start anything? The process has been going on for a long time, and now here and there the fruits of those measures are appearing that were taken with difficulty, due to the fact that most of the elites are in blissful confidence that they are still waiting for us in the west. And despite this bliss, they managed to push through something, largely thanks to the leadership, by the way. And when the sanctions rang out, it became more and easier to promote them.
      I agree with you, the author’s opinion, in my opinion, is a collection of very strange and eccentric measures, as if on purpose missing really influential steps and opportunities to influence the decisions made by the West. Going down to the level of an international pest/criminal, it will not be easy to make yourself respected. We need the right balance, not these cocaine wars with migrants.
  8. avia12005
    avia12005 4 February 2022 07: 07
    -9
    It is high time to move from talking shops and calls to observe international law to real actions. It is clear that the US and the West have declared war on us. And they won't back down. Supporters of the point of view that it is possible to negotiate with them are turning the Russian Federation into a "tolerant country". At least, a significant part of Russian citizens are convinced of this.
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  10. Adagka
    Adagka 4 February 2022 07: 41
    +17
    This is the stream of consciousness. The only thing missing is the death star)) it’s harmful to watch so much Kiselevshchina-nightingaleism)
    But in fact, he can’t answer in any way, there were a lot of screams, various red lines were drawn by everyone and sundry. Up to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs cleaners, and at the exit another bunch into a puddle.
  11. yuriy55
    yuriy55 4 February 2022 08: 03
    +20
    Still, no matter how anyone would like, but Russia is not North Korea, and no matter how weak it may be, its capabilities will always be several orders of magnitude higher

    I am surprised by the reasoning about some hypothetical possibilities given the existing facts:
    Russia at the 2018 Olympics:

    It's been 4 years!!! And here from (0:49):

    Details will be at 15:00 Moscow time...
    Are there other countries flying under the white flag? Without state attributes and an anthem?
    And you are talking about some cables, about some accidents, about some answers ... They wiped their feet and continue to treat them like a third world country ...
    You are right, we really want to see the flag of our country, a country that has already proven to the world how we can ... One problem, the flag of that country was red.
    ==========
    Here is the answer for yourself:
    What is a cornered bear capable of?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 4 February 2022 16: 13
      -13
      And symbolism is important to you at the games - maybe it’s important how many medals ours will take in the end and in what place they will be, but the fact that the athletes represent Russia is clear to everyone - we can not participate in the Olympic Games at all, since they didn’t expect the rules set by us there when a ban was introduced on our symbols that we would not participate, thereby the competitor would be removed - but they broke off.
      1. V means B
        V means B 4 February 2022 19: 18
        +4
        And why then collect the team, well, we would have gone ourselves, we would have won medals and we would have recorded them, the Russians, after all.
    2. Flanker692
      Flanker692 4 February 2022 19: 34
      +2
      Here, a ton of text has already been written, the main message of which is that before arranging a "tough response to the West" you need to look from the outside and ask yourself "have we crossed the very line beyond which we accuse them"? This is not a boxing match, where the one who broke and knocked out the enemy the most is the one who won, but an infinitely long chess game, where you need to understand that the move must always go to the time of the opponent. Today you turned off the gas, who will buy it from you tomorrow? proxy war and hacker attacks, who will make mutually beneficial concessions with you tomorrow? today you cheated, under which flag will you compete tomorrow at the olympic games?
      I do not suggest reading the McLaren report and other pieces of paper hundreds of pages in order to draw conclusions for yourself, but you can always watch two documentaries, two points of view on one event. Which story is more like the truth, and in which one you decide for yourself.
      dock VGTRK:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?
      and Doc Brian Vogel, which started as a film about doping in cycling and the scandal with Lance Armstrong confessing to cheating and losing everything, but ended as a detective story about Rodchinkov: v=NK3kTvSBmhA&ab_channel=%D0%A0%D0%BE%D1%81 %D1%81%D0%B8%D1%8F24
      https://www.kinopoisk.ru/film/1009062/
      (original on netflix, but on pirated streaming it googles in 10 seconds)
      PS I feel sorry for the pure athletes, for whom this was a personal tragedy, for the entire team, which lost the opportunity to play "for the country under its own flag", but the commission investigating Rodchenkov's testimony presented enough documentary and material evidence to make the whole thing look extremely vile . There is not only electronic correspondence and various docks that can be faked, but also opened flasks of the second sampling B, the difference in the actual and reporting documentation, an inspection of the laboratory building in Sochi, where the same “pipe transfer hole” and the second storage room were found duplicate samples with sample B. It's impossible to get out of this. After the passions subsided, the Russian side quietly admitted at least some of the charges and is working on the mistakes, there is no other way.
  12. Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 4 February 2022 08: 14
    +9
    An article from the series: "Let the enemy who hid in an ambush remember, We are on the alert, we are watching the enemy" (c). smile
  13. smaug78
    smaug78 4 February 2022 08: 14
    +19
    Nonsense from a schoolboy ... Author, after your proposals, Russia will be the rogue country No. 1, with all the consequences ... All your proposals are one-time actions that will further worsen our situation.
  14. sergo1914
    sergo1914 4 February 2022 08: 20
    +6
    Cheated on his wife?

    Called black black?

    Got drunk in a bar 30 years ago?

    The next day, the capitalization of the company falls by 20% (conditionally).


    And we would have risen. Capitalization.
  15. ivan2022
    ivan2022 4 February 2022 08: 21
    +6
    Every nation has the government it deserves. And on the other hand, every government has the people in which it exists.
  16. Dimy4
    Dimy4 4 February 2022 08: 41
    +20
    And what about the bear in general? The bear is a wild animal and that's it. We are talking about a country whose leadership, to put it mildly, did not conduct its domestic and foreign policy very competently. And now, by its actions, it has driven itself into a situation where there is no way out without losing the reputation of the state. There is no need to talk about the cunning plans of a certain grandmaster. There are no plans, and the "grandmaster" only plays chapai. Do not agree? Give at least one example of foreign policy for 7 years for which you are not ashamed. Not to offer Crimea, it's generally a miracle that it became part of Russia, it seems that other people were generally involved in this issue. Domestic politics is no better.
    1. Alex 34091
      Alex 34091 4 February 2022 17: 00
      -4
      And what about the bear in general? The bear is a wild animal and that's it. We are talking about a country whose leadership, to put it mildly, did not conduct its domestic and foreign policy very competently. And now, by its actions, it has driven itself into a situation where there is no way out without losing the reputation of the state. There is no need to talk about the cunning plans of a certain grandmaster. There are no plans, and the "grandmaster" only plays chapai. Do not agree? Give at least one example of foreign policy for 7 years for which you are not ashamed. Not to offer Crimea, it's generally a miracle that it became part of Russia, it seems that other people were generally involved in this issue. Domestic politics is no better.
      You know, in my life I realized that miracles do not happen, and the return of Crimea is the result of work, and not a little work.
  17. steelmaker
    steelmaker 4 February 2022 09: 05
    +13
    "the application of sanctions - disconnection from international banking services, restrictions on the supply of industrial and household goods, as well as access to the Internet,"
    No need to invent a new when the old works. Our entire economy belongs to the Anglo-Saxons. Russia plays by someone else's rules, so we will always be the losers. We must go our own way, known, from which all Anglo-Saxons will howl:
    "1. Let's carry out the nationalization of strategically important and systemically important industries, the electric power industry, railways, communication systems, leading banks. The state will regain its monopoly on the production and wholesale of ethyl alcohol. This will give impetus to development and bring trillions of rubles to the treasury annually; will allow us to form a development budget instead of the budget of impoverishment and degradation.
    2. Restoration of Russia's economic sovereignty. There are several trillion rubles in the government's pocket. But these colossal funds have been transferred to the management of foreign financial organizations. Those trillions of rubles that are stored in banks and US debt, we will invest in production, science and education. The new government will save the Russian economy from total dollar dependence. Create a financial system in the interests of the state and citizens of the country. We will limit the access of foreign speculative capital to the Russian market. We will refuse to participate in the WTO, because for 4 years of being in this economic punishment cell we have received more than a trillion rubles of direct losses and 5 trillion of indirect ones.
    3. Credit resources - for economic recovery. To this end, we will reduce the bank interest. We will stop the wild withdrawal of capital abroad. "
    I think Grudinin, because of this program, was subjected to repression.
    1. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 4 February 2022 12: 42
      +3
      monopoly on the production and wholesale of ethyl alcohol

      Let our selmag not see yeast for three months -
      This is not a problem - the sourdough is already there,
      Let there be no sugar on sale for six months
      And it does not matter, we will drive away from sweets laughing
  18. tank64rus
    tank64rus 4 February 2022 09: 38
    -6
    A bear who sees a "hunter" setting fire to the taiga around his lair is able to tear it apart and will be right.
  19. Sotskiy
    Sotskiy 4 February 2022 09: 54
    +14
    Today I came across one article from which the hair began to stir ...
    I knew that large multinational companies were buying up everything in the bud in the Russian Federation, but still I was "surprised" so to speak.
    A small snippet from the article:
    "
    ....Over the past 15 years, multinational companies from the US and Europe have taken over dozens of the largest Russian producers of water, dairy products and soft drinks. Hundreds of well-known Russian trademarks were sold. Many of them were sold out "for pennies", and now they are worth millions, but do not belong to us. Juice "Dobry", chocolate "Russia", milk "Merry Milkman", cosmetics "Clean Line", "Fruktime", "Mug and Barrel", "Merry Milkman", "Miracle", "I", "Tone", " Fruit Garden", "Russian Gift", "Springs of Russia", "Favorite Garden", "House in the Village", "Agusha" - all these and hundreds of other brands with Russian names no longer belong to Russian companies. Even the Essentuki brand is no longer ours ...."

    Since they are going to give a "rebuff" to the aggressor, by increasing the pumping of gas by the newly minted Hero of Labor through Ukraine? Or have they forgotten what the food sabotage of the late 80s is, which they themselves staged against the people, to overthrow the communist system in the country? What will prevent in the case of "hot" relations with Western "partners" from repeating to these "partners" the same thing already against the current regime, nationalization? But what about the foreign assets of those close to you? belay
    Link to article:
    https://zen.yandex.ru/media/id/5e1e43356f5f6f00ad07a0ba/kak-izvestnye-rossiiskie-brendy-stali-zapadnymi-61e4d33f77b7ce520a5a501f?&
    1. Daniil Konovalenko
      Daniil Konovalenko 4 February 2022 11: 12
      +10
      Since they are going to give a "rebuff" to the aggressor
      there are a lot of hats in Russia .. let's throw .. laughing
      1. Sotskiy
        Sotskiy 4 February 2022 11: 23
        +13
        Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
        there are a lot of hats in Russia .. let's throw ..

        Chinese? Earflaps along the way and those in China are sewn.
        What if China imposes sanctions on Russia? Did the Soviet galoshes remain in the warehouses of the State Reserve, or did they also sell everything?laughing
        1. Daniil Konovalenko
          Daniil Konovalenko 4 February 2022 12: 18
          +7
          Soviet galoshes in the warehouses of the State Reserve at least remained or also sold everything
          ?
          That's the trouble with galoshes, also Chinese .. laughing Yes, do not worry, the war will come, all together in a single impulse, we will pledge property, our wives and children, to our oligarchs and save the Fatherland .. We will create the militia of Death laughing like the battalions of Death in WWI and for the oligarchs, the president and the Fatherland, we will all die as one ... All the same, we will not redeem property, wives and children from the oligarchs. laughing
          1. Sotskiy
            Sotskiy 4 February 2022 12: 32
            +9
            Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
            Yes, do not worry, the war will come, all together in a single impulse, we will pledge property, our wives and children, to our oligarchs and save the Fatherland ..

            laughing I appreciate healthy sarcasm. wink
            But I will "disappoint" some "hot heads" - there will be no war.
            Why? And why fight with the territory where all the assets for profitable "investments" have already been bought up by this same "aggressor"?
            Fight with your own assets? It is in what kind of inflamed brain could such a dream come true?
            1. Daniil Konovalenko
              Daniil Konovalenko 4 February 2022 15: 43
              +7
              laughing I’m not complaining about the inflamed brain .. I would have died already .. laughing But what is surprising is how others live with such a diagnosis ... laughing, moreover, they drive NATO cars, buy their household appliances and so on, relax in NATO resorts laughing
              1. Sotskiy
                Sotskiy 4 February 2022 19: 25
                +1
                Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
                moreover, they drive NATO cars, buy their household appliances and so on, and relax at NATO resorts

                Forcing laughing
                Its auto industry is almost over. Somewhere a note slipped that KAMAZ already refuses to produce military equipment due to its total dependence on Western partners for spare parts (we don’t care about sanctions?)
                Belarusians somehow help out with household appliances, although there are also "NATO" components wink
                They rest at NATO resorts because domestic speculators inflate prices for their fellow citizens in such a way that sometimes it seems that I am an enemy and I need to be swindled to the skin, well, so that I know "ours". laughing
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 4 February 2022 16: 35
      -15
      The Soviet planning distribution system itself provoked food and production sabotage and the policy of the Central Committee of the CPSU, starting from the 50s and at the beginning of the 60s, fell into the arms race, kicked the civilian sector to the first place, the military-industrial complex rolled out thanks to Ustinov and planted the economy on an oil currency needle around the neck of the country, dozens of rogue countries hung which they supplied everyone for thanks in 1986, thanks to the above, the economy of the USSR "arrived" like politics.
      What will prevent in the case of "hot" relations with Western "partners" to repeat to these "partners" the same thing will not be done against the current regime - They will simply take and sell their property in Russia as it was in 2014 - 2015 and there will be no nationalization or they will create left offices through which it will be possible to safely conduct business in Russia without fear of sanctions and investments from the West in Russia, not a few hundreds of billions of dollars, no one will lose their profits and investments, so that no food sabotage will be needed, everyone needs profit and not losses.
      1. Sotskiy
        Sotskiy 4 February 2022 18: 53
        +7
        Quote: Vadim237
        The Soviet planning distribution system itself provoked food and production sabotage and the policy of the Central Committee of the CPSU since the 50s

        With what? belay Is it not a ban on speculation, which accelerates inflation at all times, creating an artificial shortage of goods on the example of buying grain from private traders during the NEP?
        About sabotage. I well remember Nevzorov's reports from his "600 seconds" in the late 80s, about the deliberate destruction of goods at intermediate stations, which were intended for delivery to both capitals.
        So I don’t have to push me about "it was Lenin who planted an atomic bomb under the USSR."
        Quote: Vadim237
        in the early 60s, they fell into the arms race, kicked the civilian sector into first place, the military-industrial complex rolled out thanks to Ustinov

        I didn’t understand, but what did you want after the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and nuclear missiles in Turkey, to offer the Americans to buy diamond mines in Yakutia in exchange for chewing gum?
        Quote: Vadim237
        They will simply take and sell their property in Russia as it was in 2014 - 2015

        Well, yes. According to Sberbank in Crimea, you can still see how simple everything is). How much does Sberbank sell its assets in Eastern Europe?)
  20. Olegi1
    Olegi1 4 February 2022 11: 21
    +14
    1. Cyber ​​attacks on infrastructure = war;
    2. Cutting submarine cables = war.

    I will not analyze further, I will limit myself to a question to the author: what do you smoke?
  21. JonnyT
    JonnyT 4 February 2022 11: 56
    +6
    In my opinion, this development of Russia will be the most optimal - the welfare of citizens, the economy, industry, science and medicine. Seeing our achievements, the West itself realizes its mistakes in its attitude towards our country.
    Of course, military and other threats to the security and peaceful life of our citizens must be eliminated and stopped. Russia can give the world space exploration, a new model of human life, the ecological restoration of the planet - that's what we should strive for, and not confrontation, mutual destruction and war.
  22. magdama
    magdama 4 February 2022 12: 12
    -10
    Well, men ... We'll have to fight. If we do not want to become a cattle. Enough already, sitting on the sofas, swimming with fat. A la herr com a la herr!
    1. Revival
      Revival 4 February 2022 12: 26
      +4
      Is it Success, Breakthrough, or Breakthrough?
      No matter how cunning plan...
  23. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 4 February 2022 12: 14
    +10
    Probably all this is too "dirty", I would say, it looks like a provincial women's revenge.
    Our key interest should not be "how to shit them better?" and "how to occupy their markets and raise their economy and living standards?" .
    And you need to focus on that, instead of playing witch.
  24. Bolt cutter
    Bolt cutter 4 February 2022 12: 18
    +2
    The author describes the right way to the international cockerel. Neighbors to the North Korean military baby doll.
    1. Pilot
      Pilot 4 February 2022 13: 11
      -6
      To some of those present here winked - to gear an Englishwoman is, of course, more prestigious than an international cockerel, yes? wassat
      1. Bolt cutter
        Bolt cutter 4 February 2022 13: 17
        +2
        to gear an Englishwoman
        To live where I like and how I like, I like. Would you prefer life in North Korea? To which, in the implementation of at least part of the criminal dirty tricks proposed by the author, can Russia join?
        Another question - have you ever read in Russian newspapers something like "British citizen Jane Smith, a native of London, was detained by immigration police in a brothel in the suburbs"?
        1. Pilot
          Pilot 4 February 2022 13: 53
          -4
          1. I am tired of the Soviet Union, the pressure on which was no less than on the DPRK.
          2. Are you happy that London brothels do not detain any passport? lol
          1. Bolt cutter
            Bolt cutter 4 February 2022 14: 01
            +1
            I am tired of the Soviet Union, the pressure on which was no less than on the DPRK.
            1. The Union bought machine tools and entire industries in the rotten West, and sold oil / timber without problems. Besides, the Union is no more.
            2. You perfectly understood everything, but you have nothing to say. You didn't even succeed in spearing.
            1. Pilot
              Pilot 4 February 2022 14: 10
              -5
              1. Everything was but the Soviet Union was considered in the world.
              2. You want to say that you can’t meet English women in Russian brothels, but there are a lot of Russians / Russians in English brothels? Well, you certainly know better there ... lol wassat Only these are no longer Russian / Russian - these are vyrus or crosses, such garbage can be called differently, the meaning will not change .. stop The family, as they say, is not without freaks, you know.. wink lol
              1. Bolt cutter
                Bolt cutter 4 February 2022 14: 14
                0
                with the Soviet Union were considered in the world.
                1. The Union did not slip into cheap criminality and dirty tricks. He played on equal terms. But he played too much.
                2.
                Do you mean to say that
                The immigration flow between Russia and Britain is somehow unidirectional and the British are not eager for a residence permit in Russia. Why's that?
                1. ROSS_51
                  ROSS_51 6 February 2022 00: 33
                  0
                  Quote: Bolt Cutter
                  with the Soviet Union were considered in the world.
                  1. The Union did not slip into cheap criminality and dirty tricks. He played on equal terms. But he played too much.
                  2.
                  Do you mean to say that
                  The immigration flow between Russia and Britain is somehow unidirectional and the British are not eager for a residence permit in Russia. Why's that?

                  In fairness, with your Baltic states, the same picture. Why's that?
                  1. Bolt cutter
                    Bolt cutter 6 February 2022 11: 00
                    0
                    Our Baltic States leave, arrive without restrictions, the borders are open. (Like a rotational method in the Russian Federation) - so the example is by. If it were possible to leave Kursk or Tver for permanent residence in Dublin or Hamburg with a ticket for 1000 rubles and a passport, there would nobody at all not left yes .
                    1. ROSS_51
                      ROSS_51 6 February 2022 11: 15
                      0
                      Quote: Bolt Cutter
                      Our Baltic States leave, arrive without restrictions, the borders are open. (Like a rotational method in the Russian Federation) - so the example is by. If it were possible to leave Kursk or Tver for permanent residence in Dublin or Hamburg with a ticket for 1000 rubles and a passport, there would nobody at all not left yes .

                      I see that you, too, from London do not aspire to return home. You already consider London to be your home.)) There are no young people in the Baltics anymore - they are on contracts in Europe and are not going to return. So the example is right on target.
                      1. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 6 February 2022 11: 22
                        -1
                        you, too, from London do not strive to return home
                        I have a problem - my wife does not know Russian or Latvian. But departure, by the way, we are planning. So far, hypothetically (the wife is already choosing a gun for herself yes who will buy there to wear). A lot of people I knew are already at home, saving up for construction, overhaul, learning the language, just playing tricks - everyone has their own reasons. The Swedes and the French (and by the way, many Australians) also come to London to live, are they also poor?
                        How many years have you lived in Europe?
                      2. ROSS_51
                        ROSS_51 6 February 2022 13: 13
                        0
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter

                        How many years have you lived in Europe?

                        I haven't lived, but I've been many times. It’s too late for me to go somewhere, and there’s nothing to do at home, I don’t have a badly paid job.
                      3. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 6 February 2022 13: 35
                        -2
                        As always, VO is off topic, but with the only correct information.
                      4. ROSS_51
                        ROSS_51 6 February 2022 22: 33
                        0
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        As always, VO is off topic, but with the only correct information.

                        What is the secret topic? I talked with yours more than once - in Scandinavia there are a lot of them. Someone under a contract, and someone in the minidiasporas smuggling and thief trades. It's not a secret. Poles and Balts are the lowest stratum of Europeans. Below only Ukrainians and Arabs.
                        I’m talking about something, you rightly said, if the borders were opened, half of the young people would also leave their clothes in a bag, although this has already happened with you.
                        And where to return then? What, do you have a job there? With these sanctions, the Baltic states are slowly doing hara-kiri for themselves, only in the European version, they sit on a katana from above.
                      5. Vavilov
                        Vavilov 6 February 2022 22: 55
                        -1
                        I’m talking about something, you rightly said, if they opened the borders, we would also have half of the youth leaving their clothes in a bag


                        sometimes the thought comes to mind, it was necessary not to build an iron curtain, but to allow in Soviet times to take a sip of free life for those who really wanted to, maybe they grew wiser faster and the union did not break up what
                      6. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 6 February 2022 22: 56
                        -1
                        is the topic a secret? I talked with yours more than once
                        It is necessary to look from the inside, to live. But the higher European laughing such an opportunity is not particularly in a hurry to provide
                        do you have a job there?
                        My father has a business. But there is work - Belarusians and Great Russians come to work on visas.
                        The Baltic states are slowly doing hara-kiri
                        The real GDP of Latvia is almost twice as high as Russia's.
                      7. ROSS_51
                        ROSS_51 6 February 2022 23: 10
                        0
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        The real GDP of Latvia is almost twice as high as Russia's.

                        What? You be careful, I already choked on coffee ..))
                      8. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 6 February 2022 23: 14
                        -1
                        Latvia- 21490
                        Russia-11650
                        And why are Latvians allowed to enter almost all countries of the world without a visa, and Russians, except perhaps to Kazakhstan and Paraguay?
                      9. ROSS_51
                        ROSS_51 6 February 2022 23: 22
                        0
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        Latvia- 21490
                        Russia-11650
                        And why are Latvians allowed to enter almost all countries of the world without a visa, and Russians, except perhaps to Kazakhstan and Paraguay?

                        oh, you don’t need numbers, I can also throw in, why long disputes with someone more objective? Are you per capita, by the way? Well, how many of you are there, souls, left? One and a half digger?)) Do not tell me ..
                        And yes, pride in visa-free travel is a professional deformation of a guest worker in you?))
                      10. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 6 February 2022 23: 26
                        -1
                        pride in freedom
                        The realization that I'm not brushed off with wet rags like some wassat By the way, I can come to Russia with an online application, but you can only come to Latvia with a visa.
                        One and a half digger?)) Do not tell.
                        There are no valid arguments...
                        I can also throw
                        Unless they throw it on, saying that an apartment in Mukholyubinsk is cheaper and grandmother Agafia's milk is a third of the price of the Latvian one. So the Russians are richer laughing The real numbers cannot be misrepresented - they show the efficiency of the economy in the first place.
                      11. ROSS_51
                        ROSS_51 6 February 2022 23: 34
                        0
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        pride in freedom
                        The realization that I'm not brushed off with wet rags like some wassat By the way, I can come to Russia with an online application, but you can only come to Latvia with a visa.
                        One and a half digger?)) Do not tell.
                        There are no valid arguments...

                        Do we have an argument? For me, it’s so lazy picking ..)) It’s ridiculous to compare Latvia with Russia. How will we compare the standard of living - in sprats or in bottles of vodka?))
                        I have been to Latvia, back in the Soviet Union .. For me, it’s more interesting in a full-fledged Europe - Sweden, Denmark, Germany, Spain ..
                        Yes, and here what to compare, I'm in terms of rest, and you work?))
                        Talking about nothing and already boring, sorry ..
                      12. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 6 February 2022 23: 40
                        -2
                        you work?)
                        life. I am actually a full citizen.
                        I'm on holiday
                        Get a visa ahead of time, and then stand in line at the airport, where it says non-EU citizens laughing Then they will let yes And be proud of imperial greatness yes
                      13. ROSS_51
                        ROSS_51 6 February 2022 23: 45
                        0
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter

                        I'm on holiday
                        Get a visa ahead of time, and then stand in line at the airport, where it says non-EU citizens laughing Then they will let yes And be proud of imperial greatness yes

                        Yes, I didn’t write about imperial pride anywhere. But your pride of a "full-fledged" citizen is frankly amusing.)) When were the Balts full-fledged in Europe? Even the Poles are not deceived on this score.
                        Look at the work quotas in Europe, what is the priority of the Baltic states there?)) If we discard highly qualified vacancies?
                        Well, yes, the third grade is not a marriage))
                      14. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 6 February 2022 23: 50
                        -2
                        You look at work quotas in Europe
                        Tell me about these quotas smile - because they are not in the EU in real life, but there is a free market for goods, resources and labor.
                        When were the Balts in Europe full-fledged?
                        And then how full-fledged are the Russians, if they don’t even let you in without problems and papers?
                      15. ROSS_51
                        ROSS_51 7 February 2022 00: 05
                        0
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        You look at work quotas in Europe
                        Tell me about these quotas smile - because they are not in the EU in real life, but there is a free market for goods, resources and labor.
                        When were the Balts in Europe full-fledged?
                        And then how full-fledged are the Russians, if they don’t even let you in without problems and papers?

                        What problems are you talking about, I somehow do not understand. Well, now it’s covid, and so it’s two hours for me by car and I’m in Finland. Also, 200 km to Norway is not a question. True, the Finns do not like it when their country is used as a gate to the EU, but they leave for another country.
                        You will tell Vanya from Ryazan about the free market in the EU; I do not like. So I say goodbye, all the best.
                      16. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 7 February 2022 00: 12
                        -2
                        I have two hours by car and I am in Finland
                        And you can come there at any time without a visa and permission?
                        free market in the EU, you will tell Van from Ryazan
                        Is this your only argument? watery sad
                        you start to burn
                        Your vocabulary is worthy of an intellectual laughing
                      17. ROSS_51
                        ROSS_51 7 February 2022 00: 22
                        0
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        And you can come there at any time without a visa and permission?

                        Why no visa? I left documents and money in any travel agency and they themselves will make a visa.
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        Your vocabulary is worthy of an intellectual

                        I see that you and your intellect are already getting personal.)) I was right.
                        To be honest, I'm not curious about you and I'm too lazy to formulate arguments for you. I said goodbye.
                      18. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 7 February 2022 11: 00
                        -2
                        to Norway 200 km is not a question.
                        20 euros (Riga-Oslo) is an even smaller question.
                        Any travel agency
                        Why a travel agency? Sat down and went.
                        too lazy to articulate.
                        Nothing to say - I'm not the notorious Vanya from Ryazan tongue
                        I said goodbye.
                        But this is correct.
  25. Maxim L
    Maxim L 4 February 2022 12: 20
    +6
    I don't understand why so many Russians dream of war with the US. When Chechnya does whatever it wants. The top officials of Chechnya are openly calling for "cutting off their heads," and the Kremlin shyly replies "it's none of our business." Before entering the world level, at least everything should be under control at home.
    1. magdama
      magdama 4 February 2022 17: 58
      -5
      Maksim. Leave. Otherwise, you will not last long, you will wither from longing. And we will help. Wali, brother)))
  26. Revival
    Revival 4 February 2022 12: 24
    +5
    In general, if it is sensible to consider and evaluate, then what the author offers is not capable of anything?
  27. Barberry25
    Barberry25 4 February 2022 12: 32
    -3
    well, initially it is worth thinking about asymmetric responses in order to gain profit and expenses from Europeans ..
  28. Tavrik
    Tavrik 4 February 2022 13: 02
    +4
    Quote: Aleksandr21
    many simply do not understand how Russia can respond and what its strengths are,

    I do not understand too. In addition to "break, destroy, spoil" - nothing. And even that is highly doubtful.
  29. Zolotse
    Zolotse 4 February 2022 13: 06
    +3
    Quote: avia12005
    It is high time to move from talking shops and calls to observe international law to real actions. It is clear that the US and the West have declared war on us. And they won't back down. Supporters of the point of view that it is possible to negotiate with them are turning the Russian Federation into a "tolerant country". At least, a significant part of Russian citizens are convinced of this.

    Yes, with our officials, there is no need for a Western war. They rot their people with all sorts of newfangled restrictions at the behest of "dung". Maybe at first it can be canceled, let the people straighten up. Before accepting those who are looking for a safe haven from the gender politics of the West, you can stop crushing your people, Why does the author not write about this. Or newfangled restrictions are a holy cow that you can’t touch ....
  30. Alexfly
    Alexfly 4 February 2022 13: 06
    +1
    In principle, an integrated approach is needed in everything .... in this the author is right ..
  31. Tavrik
    Tavrik 4 February 2022 13: 13
    +7
    What the hell did I read? Accompanied by silly pictures....
  32. Freeman
    Freeman 4 February 2022 13: 25
    0
    Russia will have to somehow react to these sanctions, and respond harshly enough so that the enemy's population will feel the result in "their own skin". We have no direct options for responding to sanctions, and it is also not very acceptable to unleash a war because of them.

    The answer may lie in asymmetric measures


    I read the proposals of the author of the article (we will turn off the gas, cyber attacks, sponsoring refugees and "corsairs", attacks on communications cables, etc.) and the answers of our members of the forum to these proposals in the spirit that this will lead to a direct military clash, and this is us we can't afford it, I thought - And what kind of asymmetric answer can we give to NATO countries in response to sanctions?

    - The answer was found back in 2014 ...


    wassat laughing
  33. hermit
    hermit 4 February 2022 13: 27
    -1
    As for the stock exchanges, I liked it. It's possible to earn billions. Like Soros when he crashed the pound in 1992. Only a lot of millions will have to be invested in such an attack. And you need to know very well: what, where and when to sell. I'm afraid I'll have to consult the same Soros and Buffett.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 4 February 2022 16: 49
      -7
      It is possible in Russia to introduce special conditions for miners, for example, to introduce cheaper electricity - to produce their equipment for mining, and thereby attract investors from all over to bring the share of crypto in the country to 50% of the world's - with a turnover of 60 or more trillion rubles a year.
  34. garik77
    garik77 4 February 2022 13: 39
    0
    When it comes to the survival of the state, any methods are good. And then I look, raguli with tolerasts ran here and began to shame us.
  35. Rusfaner
    Rusfaner 4 February 2022 13: 57
    0
    [quote=Doccor18][quote]...
    Maybe it’s worth starting to invest again in domestic science and education (starting with raising the salaries of teachers, instead of digitalization programs), in the development of industry, petrochemistry, genetics and microbiology, then there will be no need to eat "grass and roots" ... [/ quote]
    Not counter, but about ...
    "Wars are not won by generals, wars are won by school teachers and parish priests (read - ideology)," said German Chancellor Otto von Bismarck. (c)
    Your words, yes to God’s ears!
  36. Artemion3
    Artemion3 4 February 2022 14: 02
    +1
    I really liked the idea of ​​supplying weapons to Iran and Venezuela. This is a symmetrical response to their deliveries to/to Ukraine.
    1. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 4 February 2022 14: 17
      +2
      arms supplies to Iran and Venezuela
      Will China help them out with supplies if something just changes it?
  37. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 4 February 2022 14: 05
    +5
    The article is generally what the people say - bullshit.
  38. sannyhome
    sannyhome 4 February 2022 14: 15
    -6
    Official article. I like. Let them eat with a big spoon what they put us good good
    1. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 4 February 2022 14: 20
      +4
      Personally lead the Somali pirates in a boarding attack wassat ?
  39. Drugov
    Drugov 4 February 2022 14: 39
    +3
    It is a struggle with effects, not causes. Many commentators, together with the author, do not understand that the enemy should not be sought in the outer contour, the enemy is much closer. The enemy is very close, in every state. institution, administration, court, prosecutor's office, district police department. With rare exceptions, these are the first enemies of the people. All our enemies have settled in the Kremlin walls and from there they throw up such articles to us, diverting suspicions from themselves and redirecting them to sworn enemies surrounding Russia for centuries.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 4 February 2022 16: 55
      -9
      "The enemy is very close, in every state institution, administration, court, prosecutor's office, district police department." And where did these enemies come from in these places - is it not from the people that they got there for decades?
      1. Drugov
        Drugov 4 February 2022 17: 06
        +2
        That is why the main enemy in the person of a specific government, which for all these decades has transformed this society and turned it into silent extras with a slavish psychology and a desire to find the culprit for all their troubles, mistakes and defeats.
  40. Kesha1980
    Kesha1980 4 February 2022 14: 54
    -1
    I represent our Russian Steven Seagal with a bag of crack in the USA and distributing free doses to blacks. Horror! Then Chuck Noriss quickly hits him in the ears.
    From the possible and acceptable: our hockey players beat the Swiss at the Olympics. Otherwise, we will not answer in any way, apparently. There is no political will. Although I'd be happy to be wrong.
  41. Aviator_
    Aviator_ 4 February 2022 16: 01
    -1
    our children will eat grass and roots, as children in North Korea often do,
    Does the author seriously believe in this liberal agitation?
  42. Torp20
    Torp20 4 February 2022 16: 55
    -2
    Missed the soup from American legs - take the queue, and do not write any heresy here.
  43. agoran
    agoran 4 February 2022 17: 27
    +1
    I can offer another option.
    Supply Iran with a small but sufficient amount of enriched uranium to test a nuclear weapon.
    The Jewish lobby in the US will howl, forget about the outskirts.
    EMNIP, that year the United States provided Israel with 51 billion (the Sumerians smoke nervously) for the purchase of military equipment and nothing more.
    It is noteworthy that earlier assistance was also provided for the development of the Israeli military-industrial complex.
  44. Glagol1
    Glagol1 4 February 2022 17: 31
    -1
    There are quite obvious tools - the confiscation of Western property in the Russian Federation and the ban on Russian legal entities to repay their debts to Western banks. Confiscation will give 100 billion, but debts are at least 200. In total, their direct loss is 300 billion.
  45. magdama
    magdama 4 February 2022 17: 54
    -2
    Stop playing by the rules! This is the jungle. Amers simply multiply by zero.
  46. Wildcat
    Wildcat 4 February 2022 17: 57
    +3
    wassat
    When I read about KAZ on ships, I was a little surprised.
    When I read about three-circuit weapons. with turbines and compressed air in the butt, I had some fun.
    When I read about the supply of weapons to drug cartels .... in principle, the recognizable ideas of one politician, he may no longer hide behind a pseudonym ...
  47. Eldarctp
    Eldarctp 4 February 2022 18: 03
    0
    Where is moderator ??
    It is about advertisement on your website.
    Thank you.
  48. Basarev
    Basarev 4 February 2022 18: 10
    -3
    These measures will not lead to the desired result. If you hope that the West will get scared, beg for mercy and lift the sanctions, you are mistaken. Most likely, they will say: Ctesiphon must be destroyed - and you will learn that the second North Korea is not the last step. Wait for the Cuban embargo, only this time it will be introduced not only by the States. And the whole pro-Western world, dozens of countries in all corners of the planet. When there are not even Chinese goods on the shelves, you will understand that the devil should be paraphrased: it is the Russian Federation that only produces galoshes. If we discard the Manilovism, then it should be recognized: economically, politically, and even more so culturally, the West cannot be defeated in principle. By military means - extremely controversial and too expensive, like a Pyrrhic victory. We need to come up with something smarter. Especially considering that I would very much like to return good relations, as it was before the Georgian mess, to the zero, the best of times. Otherwise, if the above measures are applied, any path to reconciliation will be cut off forever. In general, summing up, I believe that it is a bad idea to measure sanctions with the West, they will certainly pass it on. And since the outcome cannot be changed, they will win anyway, the only question is our losses and destruction - isn’t it better to immediately capitulate unconditionally, fulfill any conditions, that’s right, any conditions at all, so that the West forgives us? But it is possible in another way, with less blood. To sell to the West the only culprit of our quarrel with him, to sell the devil with all his entourage - he alone is to blame for everything.
    1. agoran
      agoran 4 February 2022 18: 37
      -1
      Katz offers to surrender?
      Your Russian is not native?
      Ctesiphon - maybe Carthage?
      1. VORON538
        VORON538 5 February 2022 01: 58
        -2
        This Katz always offers to surrender. Apparently, in this case, he expects to become a faithful watcher in the occupied territory with a bandage on his sleeve.
  49. Pulya
    Pulya 4 February 2022 18: 13
    +2
    It's a pity - this opus can not be put ...
    Kindergarten
  50. Artemion3
    Artemion3 4 February 2022 18: 23
    -2
    Quote: Bolt Cutter
    arms supplies to Iran and Venezuela
    Will China help them out with supplies if something just changes it?

    All the same, China will not supply them with s400s, Iskanders, or something else.