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Russia declares Columbine a terrorist movement

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By decision of the Supreme Court in Russia, the Columbine movement was recognized as a terrorist movement. Such a verdict was made after the filing of a corresponding lawsuit by the Prosecutor General's Office of the Russian Federation.

This was told by the correspondent of the agency RIA Newswho was in court.

Recognize the youth movement "Columbine" - another name for "Schoolshooting" - terrorist and ban its activities on the territory of the Russian Federation

- says the court verdict.

According to the judge, the decision comes into force today. Although it is still possible that the verdict will be appealed, the court decided to proceed with its execution without delay.

The details of the court session are unknown, as it was held behind closed doors.

So far, law enforcement officials have uncovered several existing online communities created by followers of this radical movement. In total, they have about 50 members.

The idea of ​​recognizing representatives of this organization as terrorists is not new. Shortly before that, it was voiced by the head of the legal department of the Moscow police trade union, Igor Glushakov. In his opinion, this would help law enforcement officers to carry out preventive work to prevent crimes.
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  1. iouris
    iouris 2 February 2022 17: 29
    +9
    Better too late than never.
    1. poquello
      poquello 2 February 2022 17: 48
      +17
      Quote: iouris
      Better too late than never.

      everyone knows what a kangaroo looks like

      "Schoolshooting - this term is applied to mass killings of students, which is carried out by one student or someone else who entered the school with a weapon. That is, violence with a firearm in a school institution.

      Columbine is the name of the school in the United States, where in 1999 there was a massive high-profile armed attack by students on their classmates. This case received a wide public outcry, and unfortunately, the teenagers who staged the shooting at the school then had followers who began to repeat such terrible acts.

      Teenagers are most susceptible to influence, so they often do things similar to those in which they read in a book or magazine, learned from the Internet. It is for this reason that the Columbine subculture quickly gained momentum and gained a considerable number of followers.
      https://татищевский.64.мвд.рф/news/item/21731937
      1. 6erJIblu
        6erJIblu 2 February 2022 18: 26
        +9
        Still, such cases would not be sucked in the media in intimate details. And the gostups would not have introduced a restriction on hunting weapons after that.
    2. Orel
      Orel 2 February 2022 17: 49
      -23
      Quote: iouris
      Better too late than never.


      At least something really dangerous is recognized as terrorist. And then everything is somehow strange with us. It means that the Taliban is accepted in the Kremlin for negotiations, although they are officially recognized as a terrorist organization in our country, and the Oval, who did not blow up anyone and did not cut off anyone's head, means a terrorist. Not a fan of revolutions, but these are very strange stories.
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 2 February 2022 18: 06
        -3
        "Motion"? Does this imply mass participation? Haven't heard of this.
      2. Arkadich
        Arkadich 2 February 2022 18: 48
        +11
        Is he behind terrorism?
      3. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 3 February 2022 03: 25
        -4
        Who and when called an anal terrorist?)
  2. bk316
    bk316 2 February 2022 17: 32
    +1
    well, nice, it’s not clear why the case has come all the way to the supreme court ...
    1. 210ox
      210ox 2 February 2022 17: 57
      +7
      Considered the axis in closed mode. High state interests.. This had to be done quickly and punish moderators, provocateurs.
  3. evgen1221
    evgen1221 2 February 2022 17: 39
    -40
    We are waiting for the ban on games, for example, lightning, the king of the hill fits perfectly into the terrorist extremist training to overthrow the government.
  4. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 2 February 2022 17: 41
    -25
    50 thousands of Colombian terrorists ... belay too much ... a whole army of scumbags.
    And how are the security forces going to nullify them all?
    They, like cockroaches, hid in inconspicuous cracks and plucked out their problem from there.
  5. Cat Alexandrovich
    Cat Alexandrovich 2 February 2022 17: 45
    +9
    A strange note ... If only they would briefly tell what kind of movement this is ... This is the first time I heard about it. And I don't really understand what it's to blame...
    1. Emergency
      Emergency 2 February 2022 17: 50
      +9
      Yes, you are lucky.
      1. Cat Alexandrovich
        Cat Alexandrovich 2 February 2022 17: 56
        0
        Thanks, yes! wink
    2. 210ox
      210ox 2 February 2022 17: 59
      +5
      Hmm, I don't even know how to answer you. Tragedy in Kerch, Kazan, Perm passed by?
      1. Cat Alexandrovich
        Cat Alexandrovich 2 February 2022 18: 00
        +5
        Of course not! But I have never heard of this organization.
        1. bk316
          bk316 2 February 2022 18: 16
          +8
          Of course not! But I haven't heard of this organization.

          EEE How would it be for you in a nutshell.
          1. The movement is named "in honor" of a school in the USA where students were also shot.
          2. This is not actually a movement, but an aggregator of several communities on the Internet (hence the 50000)
          3. The general motive of these communities is how cool it is to arrange such carnage and that it can be justified. All the filth that the discussion of such things in closed communities, even WITHOUT targeted influence, leads to the "warming up" of the participants and their drive to such schizoid views. And here, as I understand it, teenagers were pushed in this direction quite consciously.
          1. BABAY22
            BABAY22 2 February 2022 20: 47
            +10
            You missed one very important point.
            In almost every community, separate posts are devoted to how classmates humiliated teenagers who staged a massacre in Colorado. And this is probably the main explanation why teenagers all over the world make Eric and Dylan their idols. They don't consider them murderers. In the minds of the Columbiners, Harris and Klebold are outsiders who took revenge on their offenders.
            That is, if you are fat, you have no friends, and classmates laugh at you, then in the virtual world the Columbine community was waiting for you with open arms.
            1. VSO-396
              VSO-396 2 February 2022 22: 23
              0
              And in almost every class there are notorious personalities on which alpha personalities assert themselves. So it was confirmed that they began to unite and plan revenge.
            2. bk316
              bk316 3 February 2022 12: 58
              -1
              You missed one very important point.

              Well, this is an obvious one.
              Please note that in the youth team there will ALWAYS be one who will assert himself at the expense of his peers and there will ALWAYS be a "white crow" who, if not humiliated, then at least torn away from the team.
              It was, is and probably will be, it was under the tsar, under the Bolsheviks, under the liberals and under Putin. It was in Russia, in England and Old Europe.

              But to create communities that push white crows to kill their peers is a new American "contribution" to the world culture of social relations. WE DO NOT NEED THIS CONTRIBUTION.

              And the fact that they do not consider murderers to be murderers in general is very typical for the United States. They do not consider the destruction of the Indians a genocide. Terrorists are considered freedom fighters. Getting fat on steroids is considered honest athletes. Etc. etc. The combination of two principles in the mentality, not a thief is caught (not a criminal has not been proven) and when necessary the law can be rewritten, plus a normal (tolerant) attitude towards double standards INEVITABLY gives rise to such monstrous phenomena.
    3. Cormorants
      Cormorants 2 February 2022 18: 38
      +5
      I agree, I already thought at the end of the article the author would tell what kind of movement it was, but I had to study the issue myself.
  6. Thrifty
    Thrifty 2 February 2022 17: 45
    0
    What kind of movement is this, where did it come from and why did it appear in Russia? Why didn’t they understand its essence right away, or are these ordinary undercover games with smoke blowing into our eyes ???
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 2 February 2022 17: 54
      -2
      Rather, preventive measures ... so that wholesale actions of imitators of mass executions of schoolchildren do not begin in our schools.
      Unfortunately, it is very difficult to identify single columbine players until the moment of execution and punish them too, after the crime they immediately shoot themselves. what
      It is not clear how to deal with the psychology of such an act.
    2. 210ox
      210ox 2 February 2022 18: 01
      -1
      It appeared a long time ago, after being shot by two bastards at Columbine School in the USA. This is a global trend, it has not passed us by either.
  7. yuriy55
    yuriy55 2 February 2022 17: 46
    -6
    There is a lot of information, I want to remind you:

    As a punishment for such degenerates, an exceptional measure of punishment should be applied ...
    The death penalty - it eradicates crime, whatever one may say and whatever you say ...
    1. Decadence
      Decadence 2 February 2022 18: 15
      -10
      A very dangerous and erroneous assessment of the effectiveness of the death penalty.

      In the United States, the death penalty is applied mainly for murders. At the same time, in states where capital punishment is prohibited, the number of murders per 100 people between 1990 and 2014 was on average 29,68% lower than in states where the death penalty is practiced. In Canada, between 1975 and 2003 - in the 27 years since the death penalty was banned (prohibited in 1976) - the proportion of murders per 100 population decreased by 44%.

      If you want, I can dig in scientific journals about statistics.
      1. yuriy55
        yuriy55 2 February 2022 18: 20
        +4
        Quote: Decadence
        If you want, I can dig in scientific journals about statistics.

        Thank you, I lived enough in the USSR, where there was no moratorium ... The death penalty is not a panacea for troubles, but a very good preventive measure ...
        1. NAP
          NAP 2 February 2022 20: 05
          +3
          The death penalty does not affect the commission of crimes in the future or the planning of the commission. Criminals (not all) are constantly risking their lives and it does not matter to them to die now or in prison, in the same way other criminals will hope to avoid capital punishment.
    2. VSO-396
      VSO-396 2 February 2022 22: 26
      0
      Often there is no one to punish - the shooter himself shoots, or goes to the end and dies in a shootout with the security forces.
    3. your1970
      your1970 3 February 2022 17: 25
      0
      Quote: yuriy55
      As a punishment for such degenerates, an exceptional measure of punishment should be applied ...

      You didn’t catch the main thing - columbiners commit suicide immediately after executions. Like “You can’t even judge me”
  8. svoit
    svoit 2 February 2022 17: 47
    +1
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    50 terrorists

    Just 50
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 2 February 2022 17: 56
      -1
      They are scattered all over the world and not only in our country ... rather, these are approximate estimates.
  9. Baron pardus
    Baron pardus 2 February 2022 17: 52
    +11
    Hand face. So the organization "AUE" that nightmares other teenagers, mocks them and knocks money off, so "AUE" is NOT a terrorist organization, but "Columbine" is terrorist? It is impossible to respond to this without a mat. Without fierce and sophisticated harassment by other teenagers (both "AUE" and "beautiful people"), there are no school shootings. How about banning the bullying of teenagers with the uttermost non-interference of grief educators? If teachers are not involved in the formation of personalities - what for they are needed at all - replace them with audio and TV lessons and that's it. I repeat once again, in schools, both American and Russian bullying sometimes reaches such proportions that the film "Scarecrow" is a kind children's fairy tale. I have already written about how some of my classmates were bullied, and what I personally went through, being practically the only white and the only white NON-American in an almost completely black school. I immediately understood everything about internationalism, and about tolerance, and about diving, and about blacks in general. WHILE THE SCHOOLS WILL BE PLANNED HARASSING OF TEENAGERS, SHOOTINGS WILL CONTINUE, which is quite natural. When a person is driven into a corner, he is ready for anything. And no one leaves the thread and offended - neither those who poisoned, nor those who watched and neighed, how the floor of the class neighed when two cretins spat in a hat to Olka Koshanskaya, nor the teachers who knew everything but did nothing.
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 2 February 2022 18: 00
      -2
      How about banning the bullying of teenagers with the uttermost non-interference of grief educators?

      I'm afraid you don't understand the position of teachers in schools.
      Here is a typical situation... a third-grader boy beats his classmates and nothing can be done to him according to the law... everything is only educational measures and no punitive measures.
      Teachers act within the framework of the educational process and do not have the right to be self-willed.
      1. Baron pardus
        Baron pardus 2 February 2022 18: 15
        +6
        I understand the position of teachers in schools very well. A cousin is a teacher at a school in the town of North Chicago (that garbage dump), so teachers have no rights - AT ALL, only duties, and students, apparently, have no duties - only rights. That is why, in the US, everyone who can send their students to private schools, be it just private schools, Catholic, military. Because in a public school, students in the 12th grade are just starting to learn the basics of algebra, half can barely read, and the laws in schools reign, let's say from 100% Zon (in the ghetto), to banal emotional sadism (in the white suburbs), cruel division into "beautiful people", "renegades" and "those who are in the middle". And I say again, until the TEACHERs begin to interfere, as many teachers did in the USSR, the executions will continue. Even in the USA, where all this insanity about "teenagers are bright creative personalities, unique and wonderful, worthy of respect purely by their existence" came from, they are already beginning to say that this has not led to anything good. This means that we need to return to the Soviet system, and most importantly, recruit more male teachers. Boys in school need positive examples. By the way, in the USA in the mid-90s there was an experiment - in the most dense negro ghetto they made a school where boys and girls studied separately, and most of the teachers were men. Result? A huge jump UP in academic performance and a HUGE drop in teenage criminal behavior. Both among boys and among girls. The project was closed as infringing on equality. So the whole education system needs to be changed. To return to uniforms, to the fact that a teacher is also a MENTOR involved in education, and, naturally, give teachers the opportunity to discipline students.
        As long as there is fierce persecution, there will be executions. When your leg is broken, what you need is not an enema, but splints and a cast. Anything can be banned. As long as there are REASONS, socio-economic reasons - until then there will be a problem.
        1. yuriy55
          yuriy55 2 February 2022 18: 24
          -3
          Quote: Baron Pardus
          I understand the position of teachers in schools very well.

          It's one thing to understand, it's another thing to be yourself or have the son of a teacher (teacher) ...
          Teacher - The word itself came to us from Ancient Greece and is literally translated "leading the child".
    2. Pulkovo1942
      Pulkovo1942 2 February 2022 18: 28
      -1
      If teachers do not participate in the formation of personalities

      You have a poor idea of ​​the features of the modern educational process. Children are not taught in school, but provide educational services. Teachers are very limited in their activities. An attempt to moralize students can lead to complaints from parents, a reprimand from superiors, and in the worst case, dismissal. So they turn a blind eye to all problems.
      1. Baron pardus
        Baron pardus 2 February 2022 18: 57
        +5
        It seems to me that you inattentively read what I wrote: a) I said that I have a cousin - a teacher at North Chicago and that teachers have no rights, only duties, students have the opposite. Moreover, now it has become even worse, since they declared mathematics to be racist and urge them to stop being marked as "racist" (for some reason, the "racism" of mathematics and marks does not interfere with Asians in the USA, Indians, or Jews, by the way, Asians and Indians, in the US more successful groups than Jews). b) I also said that it is necessary to return to the SOVIET system (which, in turn, was torn off from the German one): uniforms, order, discipline, methods of influencing students, and ... male teachers, so that boys have additional role models . And if it was liberals who gouged our education system, to the tune and on the loot of all sorts of Rothschilds, Soros, Rockefellers, Diamonds and others like them (uneducated cattle are easier to manage), then you broke your education system yourself. In the United States, billions have been spent by transnational bankers on the "democratization" of the education system. In the 50s-70s, American schools were not much inferior to Soviet ones. But since the mid-80s, a specific drop in the quality of education began. And since the end of the 90s, the devil knows where the discipline has flown. When the "freedom and rights of students" were erected as the most important value.
        1. Pulkovo1942
          Pulkovo1942 2 February 2022 19: 24
          0
          you didn't read carefully

          I replied to your first comment, only then I saw the second.
        2. sergo1914
          sergo1914 2 February 2022 20: 23
          +1
          Quote: Baron Pardus
          declared mathematics to be racist and call for refraining from being labeled as "racist".


          By the way. I've been wanting to ask one of the locals for a long time. The policeman knelt down and strangled the African American. It turns out that by kneeling they support the policeman, and do not fight racism?
          1. Baron pardus
            Baron pardus 2 February 2022 20: 43
            +2
            George Floyd drove into the cemetery because of a drug overdose. They kneel because this form of protest (and not looting, arson, robbery, rape and murder) was used by Martin Luther King. Political correctness. At the moment, there is LESS freedom of expression in the USA than there was in the USSR. "Freedom, with THEIR exception".
    3. Arkadich
      Arkadich 2 February 2022 18: 56
      +4
      You are mistaken, AUE is recognized as an extremist organization for propaganda and the organization is criminally liable.
      1. Baron pardus
        Baron pardus 2 February 2022 21: 06
        +3
        Ehtremist does not mean terrorist. The National Bolsheviks, whom I sympathize with, were also recognized as "extremist", and qua? And as for the Columbuses, I don't blame them. They were diligently led to a breakdown, mocked, and then, like, they were so surprised, "What are we for?" - FOR THE BUSINESS. As a mischling with a Semitic appearance - who still didn’t let me write off, they tried to poison me. It didn’t end well for them, and I almost drove into a criminal offense at the age of 13, as I very successfully pierced a high school student with a Czech ski stick in the stomach, and there were other cases. But having received a reputation as a psycho and a scumbag, they left me alone. But many guys and girls, well, they don’t have the determination to say “Yes, burn it all with a blue flame” and stand up for themselves without the use of firearms or explosives - they are simply BRINGED, not a month, not two, and not even a year, to the failure of the coil and the subsequent a game of safari on bipedal predators. "Children are the flowers of life - the thieves are growing" - Naked. So you can declare the movement as you like - even extremist, even terrorist, even an agent of the influence of reptilians. UNTIL THE ROOT of the problem is solved, there will be persecution, and quite natural executions and stabbings. I personally saw how one very small Mexican was bullied by blacks at school. The persecution ended at the same moment when, being beaten to the point of an ambulance, the guy got even with all 4 who beat him, sticking a knife in everyone's back. Not to death. The guy went to a psychiatric hospital for a year, but when NOBODY returned, I repeat NOBODY wanted to mess with him. So far, in view of the fact that neither teachers nor parents intervene in bullying, the most severe response to any bullying is the only way out.
        "Expendable children, grabbed the swag
        Popularity, power - the minds of them all eclipsed
        Rivalry and revenge
        Death is the solution."
        As Slayer sang

        Do you want the shootings to stop? Shooting is already prohibited. Stop harassing boys at school (yes, they shoot - boys, self-cut - girls, and boys, if they self-cut, then either in kamikaze mode, or they shoot, and the girls hang themselves - I don’t know why). Girls, by the way, are also hounded, as we were hounded, for example, Olka Koshanskaya - almost the most harmless quiet girl at school. And in addition to the fight against bullying (not with relationships like in a male team, what kind of market can fly into a penny, namely bullying), give teenagers an IDEOLOGY in which they could believe. And not religion, namely IDEOLOGY. Nature does not tolerate emptiness, and if the COUNTRY and SCHOOL and FAMILY give ideology, it will be given by urks, gopniks, and other scum.
        1. Arkadich
          Arkadich 2 February 2022 21: 31
          -4
          Qua is what? You write that for your Semitic appearance you were spread rot and you support the National Bolsheviks? No one is going to condemn Kolumbainikov, if we are talking about people who have problems in educational institutions, those who sing in their ear “you were offended, you take revenge, don’t tell your parents, don’t go to adults, no, you take it and take revenge, and even better if you kill more and you're a hero" No need for emotions, about Mexicans with Africans (not blacks) I don't know, I didn't communicate. What is the difference between extremism and terrorism? Don't confuse salty with bitter. I didn't understand the last paragraph at all.
    4. your1970
      your1970 3 February 2022 17: 29
      0
      Quote: Baron Pardus
      organization "AUE"

      You are a little behind the times
      "On August 17, 2020, the Supreme Court (SC) of Russia ruled to recognize the international public movement "Detainee Criminal Unity" (AUE) as an extremist organization. The meeting on the suit of the Prosecutor General's Office of Russia was held behind closed doors. country.
      Now the actions of those who identify themselves as members of the AUE movement fall under Article 282.1 “Organization of an extremist community” of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation with a maximum punishment of up to 12 years in prison and a fine of up to 700 thousand rubles.
  10. Decadence
    Decadence 2 February 2022 18: 13
    -1
    They say if killing is banned, there will be no more killing. *facepalms*
    1. Horon
      Horon 3 February 2022 11: 30
      +2
      They say if killing is banned, there will be no more killing.

      fool Legality? No, have not heard! If a ban is introduced on something, it means that something becomes illegal and there is reason to apply measures to it. If you don’t forbid hitting the face of an opponent you don’t like, then you just have to wipe your snot and no court will consider your case. The law is the boundaries of what is permitted in the form of rights and what is not permitted, in the form of restrictions, prohibitions and penalties accepted by society.
  11. sergo1914
    sergo1914 2 February 2022 19: 36
    -6
    Columbine with weapons to bring down tightly. But who will do it? I watched a video with traffic policemen and an employee of the criminal investigation department. Guys, IMHO, well done. And here is the corner. Do they have a selection? Expertise? Well, this is a hysterical woman with brains beaten off tightly and confidence in complete impunity. With a stem. These people protect the rule of law in our country? What do they mean by legitimacy? She needs it like a mad dog ... Out of a sense of self-preservation.
    1. NAP
      NAP 2 February 2022 20: 07
      -4
      Are you talking about that case recently on video? It was a battle between excrement and urine. The battle was equal, two fought ...
      1. sergo1914
        sergo1914 2 February 2022 20: 17
        -2
        Quote from N.A.P.
        Are you talking about that case recently on video? It was a battle between excrement and urine. The battle was equal, two fought ...


        Not at all. Guys is fine with her, on you. All in all. Well, when she rushed at them ... they were on duty. And then mad, with a gun. Didn't show proof. Rushed. They are still soft. And so, IMHO, someone's bedding. Which one is the investigator?
        1. Arkadich
          Arkadich 2 February 2022 21: 36
          -1
          There is a big difference between an investigator and an operative. No need to insult a person behind the eyes. I watched this video, but the woman is wrong. All three will be held accountable, but a criminal case will most likely be opened against traffic police officers, and not because there is someone close, but according to the law.
          1. sergo1914
            sergo1914 2 February 2022 21: 59
            -2
            Quote: Arkadich
            There is a big difference between an investigator and an operative. No need to insult a person behind the eyes. I watched this video, but the woman is wrong. All three will be held accountable, but a criminal case will most likely be opened against traffic police officers, and not because there is someone close, but according to the law.


            Person? Maybe a chicken that lost its shores? She rushed to DPSnikov.
            1. Arkadich
              Arkadich 2 February 2022 22: 06
              -1
              Why these terms "chicken"? The investigators of the Investigative Committee will look into the situation, but I think there will be a dismissal of all three, and the traffic police will be attracted for exceeding their powers, plus which diagnosis is mild or moderate, rather the second.
              1. sergo1914
                sergo1914 2 February 2022 22: 10
                0
                Quote: Arkadich
                Why these terms "chicken"? The investigators of the Investigative Committee will look into the situation, but I think there will be a dismissal of all three, and the traffic police will be attracted for exceeding their powers, plus which diagnosis is mild or moderate, rather the second.


                Have you seen the video? With her, the trunk of the traffic police politely asks you to present a certificate justifying the presence of the trunk. She answered... just beeps in the audio track. He yells with a collision, then rushes. Well, yes, not a chicken, an overgrown bastard. It's all right? It's a pity that the collarbone was broken, not the neck.
                1. Arkadich
                  Arkadich 2 February 2022 22: 19
                  +3
                  I have already expressed my opinion about insults "behind the eyes". Did you not serve? Then I'll explain. There was a conflict, she said that she was a police officer, they demanded to provide a certificate. Violation on the part of the traffic police, they did not have the right to demand a certificate (because they were not her direct superiors and did not have an order for verification), then the head of the traffic police (in the absence of the head, performs his duties) confirms to them that she is on the joint venture, they are the head DCs do not obey and apply the Federal Law and the SS for no reason! Yes, the operative was very wrong, and if the guys knew the laws and the Charter, they would have to call the person in charge or call their leader and submit a report to him describing what happened and they would be in chocolate.
                  1. Demon_is_ada
                    Demon_is_ada 2 February 2022 22: 57
                    -3
                    You are absolutely right from a legal point of view. But there is a clear psychological pressure from the traffic police. I am fond of psychology laughing there is a clear desire to subdue, break. What do you want from a woman? I think it’s not her fault, she just didn’t encounter this and didn’t even think that this was possible, she even called her boss to consult. She's not RoboCop, and maybe even a hormonal shift in the form of PMS. I think she should be returned to the authorities, as an employee of the internal control service
                    1. Arkadich
                      Arkadich 2 February 2022 23: 07
                      +3
                      Personally, I condemn her, I think she provoked the conflict, but then it all started during the performance and on emotions. From the psychological side, you know better, but knowing the requirements of the leadership of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, an employee should not have emotions, only a clear performance of duties.
                      1. Demon_is_ada
                        Demon_is_ada 2 February 2022 23: 34
                        0
                        Well, I also condemn her for being too emotional, but you yourself wrote - only a clear fulfillment of the duty ... The traffic police should have filed a report right there with the duty officer for unethical behavior and that's all. Then let her boss brainwash her.
                        In such a situation, it’s good that she didn’t get the barrel and didn’t delay the traffic police, and judging by the inadequate behavior of the traffic police, it wouldn’t have done without holes not for orders. And it would be all right according to the instructions. Something possible under cocaine, similar to traffic police officers, interferes with the performance of official duties and is trying to take possession of service weapons ... The traffic police do not have it written on their foreheads laughing
                  2. sergo1914
                    sergo1914 2 February 2022 23: 00
                    -1
                    Quote: Arkadich
                    I have already expressed my opinion about insults "behind the eyes". Did you not serve? Then I'll explain. There was a conflict, she said that she was a police officer, they demanded to provide a certificate. Violation on the part of the traffic police, they did not have the right to demand a certificate (because they were not her direct superiors and did not have an order for verification), then the head of the traffic police (in the absence of the head, performs his duties) confirms to them that she is on the joint venture, they are the head DCs do not obey and apply the Federal Law and the SS for no reason! Yes, the operative was very wrong, and if the guys knew the laws and the Charter, they would have to call the person in charge or call their leader and submit a report to him describing what happened and they would be in chocolate.


                    This is not an insult. Statement of fact. Objective characteristic. That's how she acts in front of the cameras. How about at your main job? With the general population? Impunity. She ended up in the department and rushes at the employees. She can. And if I throw myself with obscenities at the employees on duty. Yes, even with a barrel in your pocket, what will happen? Will they pat you on the head and apologize?
                2. Demon_is_ada
                  Demon_is_ada 2 February 2022 22: 23
                  -3
                  You obviously haven't seen the second video. It is the DPS that does not behave adequately. He doesn’t let me talk on the phone, the person on duty behind the glass claims that this is their employee, this is bronzed. He doesn’t need a certificate to write a complaint, her data can be obtained from the duty officer, if anything. And they are clearly blocking and standing very close. This is purely hitting, and it doesn’t matter at all whether it is bedding or not and whose. I think five years the hero shines, despite past merits.
                  1. sergo1914
                    sergo1914 2 February 2022 22: 54
                    -2
                    Quote: Demon_is_ada
                    You obviously haven't seen the second video. It is the DPS that does not behave adequately. He doesn’t let me talk on the phone, the person on duty behind the glass claims that this is their employee, this is bronzed. He doesn’t need a certificate to write a complaint, her data can be obtained from the duty officer, if anything. And they are clearly blocking and standing very close. This is purely hitting, and it doesn’t matter at all whether it is bedding or not and whose. I think five years the hero shines, despite past merits.


                    That is, this sheep is behaving adequately? There are no swear words at all.
                    1. Demon_is_ada
                      Demon_is_ada 2 February 2022 23: 07
                      -1
                      It doesn't matter at all, maybe she speaks it. We do not have obscene language in the law. This is not a reason to use physical force and special means. Can you imagine the psyche of a dpsnik? It is important for him to poop on the law, on society, self-affirmation at the moment. It's a psychopath with a gun! The employee must comply with the Law and that's it!
                3. SSA
                  SSA 3 February 2022 00: 11
                  +2
                  The right to bear arms was confirmed by the duty officer of the office where the woman was located. From this moment on, the traffic police officer has no reason to ask questions.

                  Stopping a female security officer by the corps, thereby creating an obstacle to her movement on official matters - obstructing the lawful activities of a police officer. This is a violation of the Police Act.

                  This was to be followed not by jolts and raised voices, but by clear, decisive and simple actions:

                  1. Immediate call of the person responsible for the city, responsible for the traffic police unit, and notification of the internal security duty unit about the illegal actions of an armed traffic police officer against an armed police officer.

                  2. Report from the detective on the appointment of an internal audit.

                  The result - the traffic police officer at least a strict reprimand or even incomplete service compliance.
                  ... and now. One will go to the zone, the other will receive a suspended sentence, and the third has lost her job.
                  What a stupid thing ...
        2. SSA
          SSA 2 February 2022 23: 13
          +6
          1. Not an investigator, but a detective.
          2. She committed an official misconduct, and they are a crime for which they will be convicted.
          3. The main weapon of a policeman is the law, and not a pistol at all, a cheeky voice, sambo techniques. Poor knowledge of the law is a pistol with a safety catch that you don't know how to turn on and off.

          The dialogue should have looked like this:
          Traffic police: Your ID!
          Detective: Tell me the reason for contacting me!
          STSI: You are armed in civilian clothes.
          The security officer, turning to the duty officer, the duty unit: Duty officer Confirm to the traffic police officer that I am a police officer and I have a weapon legally.
          The attendant confirms. That's all, there are no grounds for making further demands, detention, and even more so the use of force by the traffic police. This is no longer a citizen for him, this is a police official.

          If the traffic police officer considered that the police detective behaved unworthily, insulted him, then he had to get the data of this officer in the duty unit and write a report on the internal check, attaching a record from the video recorder.

          The situation was resolved in 30 seconds.
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  12. usr01
    usr01 2 February 2022 19: 54
    -1
    And why only now???!!!
  13. PavelV
    PavelV 2 February 2022 23: 41
    -1
    Of course, I hope that the journalist himself screwed up, but if not .... then the judges put themselves in an "embarrassing light". Otherwise, I would like to get acquainted with the list of leaders of the extremist organization, its internal structure, so to speak.
    Because according to the data I know, "schoolshooting" is "shooting at school", that is, armed violence in it. In the "narrow" sense - committed by a young person (most often a student of this institution or a recent graduate), who is in a serious psychiatric condition and goes to "revenge" those who, as it seemed to him, offended him there.
    Of course, in our information age, such "Gerastrats" become very famous and, obviously, this information encourages other mentally unstable people to do the same - but where is the organization?
  14. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 3 February 2022 00: 06
    -3
    It sounds like another portion of selective nonsense)) How can you ban the "movement" if it does not exist as such ?! It's like forbidding people to die from bullets, yo-my! How will they fight this? Ban photos in caps-and-with-weapons? For dark eyes and a stern face on the background of the school to block?
    It's just that the mechanism is completely incomprehensible to me - I understand how it is possible to conditionally "ban" some "AnNusra" or some witnesses of Bandera. They have some kind of set of paraphernalia, theses, some kind of pantheon, at the very least, localization on a national or religious basis.
    What do school shooters have in common? Never mind. And successful, and freaks, and rich and poor, and psychos, and quite a cold-blooded and methodical sociopaths.

    Most likely it will be another obscure and flexibly interpreted ban, which brings practically no benefit.
    1. Zomanus
      Zomanus 3 February 2022 00: 26
      +3
      Well, at least this solution will allow you to block VK groups, block pages and posts in other social networks. Without such a decision, they had no right to block.
      1. Knell wardenheart
        Knell wardenheart 3 February 2022 00: 30
        -6
        Here I agree with you, but I'm afraid that together with these groups they will throw a bunch of people, just for the company. Don't overdo it. When these freaks flock with their wet fantasies to some kind of public, they are much easier to catch than if this does not happen, and each of them "ripens" in his room. But, I admit that here I am wrong.
        1. Zomanus
          Zomanus 3 February 2022 00: 33
          0
          You know, at the age of 15-25 I would have shared your fears. But now it seems to me. what would be better to "override". Because "not getting enough" can result in another school massacre. Yes, and if the public moderators are sane. then they themselves will block any inadequate ones.
  15. Kudinov Andrey
    Kudinov Andrey 3 February 2022 00: 07
    +2
    Quote: Baron Pardus
    Hand face. So the organization "AUE" that nightmares other teenagers, mocks them and knocks money off, so "AUE" is NOT a terrorist organization, but "Columbine" is terrorist? It is impossible to respond to this without a mat.

    AUE movement was banned in Russia Admirers of crime were equated with fascists. They face up to 12 years in prison and heavy fines.
  16. Zomanus
    Zomanus 3 February 2022 00: 23
    +1
    Here is this excerpt from the article "Although it is still possible that the verdict will be appealed." I wonder if they really will appeal? In general, you need to crush these reptiles everywhere and everywhere. And terrorists and drug dealers and those who draw on the walls explanations about the sale of drugs. Accomplices of the Ukronazis and other those who strive for destructive activities. Go through the VK groups with a fine comb, at least.
  17. for
    for 3 February 2022 04: 41
    +1
    - On January 18, 2022, at the gates of school No. 8, building 69, at 16 Kirova Avenue, at about 50:2 pm, a XNUMXnd grade student was beaten. Three boys pushed her into a snowdrift and kicked her.

    Samara.
    Causes and effects.
  18. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 3 February 2022 17: 39
    0
    I really don’t understand ... It turns out that earlier these school terrorists, mass murderers and other scum were not considered terrorists? So, petty hooligans?