Latvian prime minister: In 2007, Moscow did not oppose NATO expansion

The Latvian Prime Minister commented on Russia's demands for further non-expansion of NATO and the need to withdraw foreign NATO forces from the countries of the alliance that entered after 1997. Arturs Krisjanis Karins called the Russian demands "manipulations".

According to Karins, who was born and trained in the US, "NATO is not a theoretical alliance." It is a practical "pact that is designed to deal with security issues." The Latvian Prime Minister made such statements in an interview with Polish journalists.

Head of the Latvian Government:

In 2007, Moscow did not oppose NATO expansion. Then the Kremlin changed its thinking and now they want to rewrite history to justify the restoration of the Russian Empire.

Polish journalists asked Karins when the "Russian offensive against Ukraine" could begin. The Latvian prime minister said that it is difficult to speak about this unambiguously, and added that at the same time, Moscow is doing everything to keep Ukraine and all of Europe "in suspense."

Karins:

After all, there is an unprecedented number of Russian troops at the Ukrainian borders. So the threat is very real.

The Prime Minister of Latvia believes that NATO should not make any concessions to Russia, because if such concessions are made, then "the eastern flank of the alliance will be exposed in the face of Moscow." And, as the head of the Latvian Cabinet of Ministers is sure, Moscow will "definitely take advantage of this."

Earlier, the Latvian prime minister spoke in favor of the process of assimilation of Russians in Latvia, saying that this is a long process, but as a result, it is necessary to ensure that, as a result, every Russian living in the republic identifies himself with the Latvian society.

Comments

[anclevalico]

And you can't argue. In the early 2000s, ours were silent in a rag.

[nnm]

To object, one must have political, economic, and military forces, so that simple words would be backed up by the possibility of action. And most importantly, not to have idiotic illusions that Russia, as a strong and independent state, is needed by someone other than ourselves. Yes, in 2007 Russia did not have the capabilities it has now.
It is worth noting that the Munich speech was delivered precisely in 2007 and it was the last attempt at a peaceful, diplomatic development of relations with the West.
And without real internal and external strength, you can shout, ban, threaten as much as you like, only at the same time they will wipe their feet on you, like on the current screamers like the Baltics or Ukraine. For the latter, with all their shouting, it’s just others who decide whether they are threatened by war or not. And they shout louder than Poland.

[yuriy55]

Quote: nnm

It is worth noting that the Munich speech was delivered precisely in 2007 and it was the last attempt at a peaceful, diplomatic development of relations with the West.

You are trying to justify Medvedev's tenure as president Or do you want to say that the appearance of one hundred and two dollar billionaires from Russia with their yachts, planes, villas, accounts are invisible illusions about strengthening the economy and the defense capability of Russia?
It seems that after 2000 everything has changed radically ...

Quote: nnm

Yes, in 2007 Russia did not have the capabilities it has now.

Now began to possess? And twenty-one years have not passed (or passed?), how we have changed and everyone considers us at a time ...
Capital outflow from Russia by years: 1994 - 2021 (data of the Central Bank, in billion USD)
1994 - 12,7
1995 - 7,8
1996 - 22,4
1997 - 18,4
1998 - 22,6
1999 - 19,6
2000 - 23,1
2001 - 13,6
2002 - 7,0
2003 - 0,3
2004 - 8,6
2005 - 0,3
2008 - 133,6
2009 - 57,5
2010 - 30,8
2011 - 81,4
2012 - 53,9
2013 - 60,3
2014 - 152,1
2015 - 57,1
2016 - 18,5
2017 - 24,1
2018 - 65,5
2019 - 22,6
2020 - 50,4
2021 - 72,0
Your thoughts are correct. I just don’t see how these newly-minted “heroes of labor” and “servants of the Fatherland” took care of the state of affairs in the country. All they care about is how to stay in power longer, and so that they don’t get anything for all the good things.

[nnm]

You misunderstood me, colleague. I did not say that I am satisfied with personalities in power, or that I think that over the years social justice, or the level of political freedoms has grown, no, this is not so. I'm more specifically about the applied side of the issue - about the qualitative rearmament carried out in the army. The fact that the Russian army in the Georgian conflict and it is in Syria are two different armies. One from the 29th century, the other from the 21st.
About what a kind word is great, but a kind word + Colt is always better.

[yuriy55]

Quote: nnm

You misunderstood me, colleague.

I understand you ... Just yours:

Quote: nnm

I did not say that I am satisfied with personalities in power

doesn't fit well with:

Quote: nnm

Yes, in 2007 Russia did not have the capabilities it has now.

Even now, she is hardly realizing the opportunities that peacetime provides her. You can’t repair a heating pipe with electrical tape ... And the clamp is a temporary means of leakage. Either fix the leak or replace the pipe...
And here, since 2000, they have been crushing water in a mortar and changing places of figures (officials) ...
Where is this visible leap in quality? Where is this famous breakthrough? Where is this high-tech equipment and production? Just tell me, where is Russia today ahead of the rest (only about hypersound - a Soviet development - do not remind)?

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: yuriy55

Capital outflow from Russia by years: 1994 - 2021 (data of the Central Bank, in billion USD)

And which of these amounts is the profit of foreign investors, traveling quite legally to the owners of the shares, and which, in your opinion, is the capital stolen. Much worse for the economy - buying up the currency of the Central Bank and folding it into a jug ... Unprecedented gold reserves! And they will grow even more. For what? A budget surplus is a disgrace. There is nothing to spend money on in the country? If extra in the budget - reduce taxes!

[riwas]

In order to object, one must have political, economic, and military forces, so that simple words would be backed up by the possibility of action.

It's right. In addition, then the scale was not the same. Ukraine's entry into NATO is a direct threat to Russia.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Russophobe Karins is in full solidarity with the Russophobes of the West, who do not want to hear or do anything to ensure the security of Russia. It remains only to force them and put them before the fact!

[Cottodraton]

Well, "friends and teachers" also did not become so obviously Russophobic.

[Murmur 55]

in the period you indicated, our leaders really wanted to become their own for the West, so they kept quiet, plus the Westerners themselves hinted and they say behave RIGHT and we will accept you into our "friendly family"

[Snail N9]

Not only were they silent, but they also licked Western anuses, if only they would be allowed to sell as much as possible overseas and bury the proceeds from what was sold through various "funds" - pods.

[Joker62]

Quote: anclevalico

And you can't argue. In the early 2000s, ours were silent in a rag.

And they were silent because the economy and the Army were still weak. Now another song.

[NetKeys]

So Latvia did not exist recently. Let's not "rewrite history", liquidate it? Let's restore the Latvian SSR?
If the approach "until 2007 Russia will not..." is correct, then such a similar approach is also correct.
If there were no nuclear weapons before, then it is impossible to have them now? As soon as there were times without gunpowder, it is necessary to send troops to the territory of another state and destroy the ability of the population to have firearms. Yes, and this character once did not wear clothes, it's time to rip off.
This strange character does not have the four basic laws of formal logic in his head, since he puts forward such a r as an argument.

[Murmur 55]

Clean keys, they only benefit from the story where they are the "kings of the situation"; therefore, they took up the census of history immediately after gaining "independence".

[Special opinion]

So why is the prime minister wrong? The fifth expansion of NATO took place back in 2004. And the Kremlin did not care until 2007.
Or is it that the grandfather has no idea what strategy and long-term planning are and all the time carries out some kind of reflex twitching in NATO's pre-arranged game is to blame?

[Alexander 3]

"Earlier, the Latvian Prime Minister spoke in favor of the process of assimilation of Russians in Latvia, saying that this is a long process, but following its results, it is necessary to ensure that, as a result, every Russian living in the republic identifies himself with the Latvian society." - Thus, they want from Russian eradicate everything Russian. Just as it happens in Ukraine. Let's say we don't make Russians out of Crimean Tatars in Crimea. They have their own language and customs there. Not to mention our multinational Republics.

[Murmur 55]

therefore, Americans are everywhere and their own, and even for Japan, they everywhere introduce their values, their priorities, their standards, therefore, after a couple of generations, all this is perceived as native.

[Kerensky]

after all, if such concessions are made, then “the eastern flank of the alliance will be exposed in the face of Moscow”

And if you don't go, then Moscow's naked aphedron may end up right in the face of such clever people.

[Egoza]

And Latvia's accession to NATO is a "historic event"? )))
Do they really think that NATO will really protect them? They will throw it like Ukraine, and membership will not help! )))

[Murmur 55]

Egoza Yes, they understand and realize everything, they simply cannot honestly admit it in public, otherwise it will turn out that no West is united, all their values ​​of democracy are bullshit, and they are just vassals of Washington.

[K-50]

Latvian prime minister: In 2007, Moscow did not oppose NATO expansion

Lavrov answered such a question - harnessed.

[Murmur 55]

And that someone from these Russophobes giving interviews for the same journalists was expecting a different rhetoric ??? What then does this smart guy not remember about the ambitions of Poland and her Wishlist from sea to sea?

[dimbasic]

Latvian fascists suck "arguments" out of their fingers

[APASUS]

Western politicians have a memory of exactly 7 seconds. They never promised to expand NATO ................

[Ros 56]

We are absolutely not interested in the opinion of this beggar, accustomed to living at the expense of others. And what, when and to whom to speak, we ourselves are able to decide, unlike these Tribaltian mongrels.

[75 Sergey]

They dunked the campaign.

[cniza]

Earlier, the Latvian prime minister spoke in favor of the process of assimilation of Russians in Latvia, saying that this is a long process, but as a result, it is necessary to ensure that, as a result, every Russian living in the republic identifies himself with the Latvian society.

Latvians and Estonians have never had a state and it looks like they won’t have ...

[rocket757]

Welcome
They will die out .... but since they are not mammoths, there will be no traces left.

[cniza]

Good time!

Here, here - everything goes towards this, and they are still trying to puff out their cheeks ...

[rocket757]

What else can they put on?
The backyards of the geyropa ... they chose this themselves.

[cniza]

Well yes, we had a showcase, and now...

[rocket757]

There were and were .... now backyards.
Who is their doctor, after all.

[cniza]

The doctor won't help...

[rocket757]

So it is .... a patient who persists in his foolishness, against treatment, the candidate knows where ... and they crawl, in a given direction.

[mag nit]

In 2007, Moscow did not notice the expansion of NATO. She fucked up Russia.

[rocket757]

Latvian Prime Minister commented on Russia's demands for further non-expansion of NATO

what is the essence of the question ... BIG, STRONG, I can defend my demands and therefore EVERYONE will be considered.
Statements of every little thing .... they all and always do not care.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND why this is posted here?? We don't care for them!

[rotmistr60]

After all, there is an unprecedented number of Russian troops at the Ukrainian borders.

If you look at the bell tower with a Latvian and compare it with their army, then it’s probably really unprecedented, but from our bell tower it’s average.

NATO should not make any concessions to Russia

Small bug, but smelly. Otherwise, you can’t say about the Balts.

[know]

As sad as it is, he's right. The Russian authorities calmly looked at how not only Bulgaria or Poland, but also the Baltic countries were joining NATO. and from the same Narva to St. Petersburg the distance in a straight line is 134 km.! To Moscow - 690 km. From the border of Russia with Lithuania to Moscow in a straight line - 418 km! And when did Estonia join NATO? March 29, 2004 - not under Yeltsin, but under Putin. Where was he then and what was he doing?

[iouris]

... and in 1991 Latvia was part of the USSR. And what? And before 1918 there was no Latvia (as well as NATO).

[Alla Nechugovskaya]

In 2007, Russia was still recovering from Yeltsin's betrayal. We were without an army, navy, economy. Russia would be smeared on the wall. But things have changed since 2014.

[Emergency]

"According to Karins, who was born and trained in the USA, "NATO is not a theoretical alliance." It is a practical "pact that is designed to deal with security issues." the population of the planet.

[Dzafdet]

We take out the contract and let the Latvians read it. It says: forever and ever, the territory goes to Russia. Then we bring it to the map and show what exactly has departed. Then we ask the question: why do you live on our land and what does NATO have to do with it?

[Astra55]

We take out the contract and let the Latvians read it.

This is what should have been done in 1990, and not guzzle vodka in Belovezhskaya Pushcha.
Now it's late.

[fif21]

Quote: Murmur 55

Westerners hinted and they say behave CORRECTLY and we will accept you into our "friendly family"

The more Russia becomes fat, the greater its ambitions. The times when Russia was ready to be Washington's six have passed. And the West is completely to blame for this. They "buried" Russia early.

[Dzafdet]

Quote: Astra55

We take out the contract and let the Latvians read it.

This is what should have been done in 1990, and not guzzle vodka in Belovezhskaya Pushcha.
Now it's late.

You will be surprised, but not too late. They are still making claims on the borders and on reparations "for the occupation."