Compass and map are not needed: in the US, the development of a special display for the army continues

Despite delays in the development of an integrated visual augmentation system (IVAS), by September of this year, it is planned to send tactical helmets with a special display for additional military tests in army units, which have been ongoing since 2019.

The IVAS system, based on Microsoft HoloLens 2 technology, is designed to provide soldiers with augmented reality. Digital information is displayed on the head-mounted display; high resolution is provided when conducting surveillance at night with recognition of the thermal signature of targets; identification of persons [probably colleagues] is carried out; there is the possibility of an external view from the technology through the use of its optics.

However, on Thursday, the Pentagon released a report stating that a helmet with a display has not yet reached combat maturity; the army and Microsoft are trying to "improve the quality and reliability of the display" by eliminating the shortcomings. One of the main problems is the power supply of the system: the batteries must maintain its performance for 72 hours.

Microsoft has been creating IVAS since 2018 and along the way faced a boycott from its employees: 200 people demanded the right to vote, as they participate in the development of a military product. Despite this resistance, in March the company was awarded a $22 billion contract to start production of IVAS (120 units).

As one of the rangers, Sgt. Brian Hayman, explained, the new system eliminates human errors during orientation and saves time by eliminating the need to look at a compass or consult a map. From his words,
"The thinking skills of IVAS are incredible":

It amazes me that we live in a time when this system already exists.

Comments

[Stas1973]

Naive children. Before the first installation of electronic warfare or, God forbid, before the first EMP. Another drink.

[ViacheslavS]

It may well not find military use, but the development will go to the civilian market and all the pip will pay off many times over.

[Andrey Moskvin]

Where can you use it in civilian life? To identify the faces of colleagues? Where, in the office?

[lucul]

Where can you use it in civilian life? To identify the faces of colleagues? Where, in the office?

Yes, in any logistics))))
Imagine, for example, the container port of Shanghai or any other large logistics. All information is immediately on the display, no need to rummage through the documents.)))

[NDR-791]

Quote: lucul

Imagine, for example, the container port of Shanghai

Yeah, I represent the US Navy using the port of Shanghai. Will he get to that port ??? If such things get to civilian use, then after the "small victorious war"

[Barberry25]

yes, personal tablets are already used in warehouses to determine the goods in the database by the barcode and what to do with it

[YOUR]

Not only this. In supermarkets, trolleys with a counter and a product identifier. You just add it up and everything, everything counts at once. Spread is not required when passing the "gate" is read and issued a check.

[Alex_1973]

But I’m interested in something else, no, of course there is no market, progress must go, not return to bows with spears, BUT progress is progress, but no one has yet canceled the brain.
Just imagine the situation, there is a war going on and not a toy, but quite a real one. I'm not talking about a global nuclear conflict, if anyone survives there, then neither GPS nor Glonass will help anyone (well, except to indicate the way to the nearest cemetery ... and that is unlikely), I'm talking about something else. Suppose (semi-fiction) the conflict is not nuclear and it is not the United States and "Papuans with Kalash" that are involved in it, but let's say the United States (NATO) and, well, let the Russian Federation or China, but fantastic, but we have seen everyone lately. So, the conflict is not nuclear, well, it didn’t take off for some reason, but the conflict. What will be the first to be disabled? That's right, navigation systems, and on both sides, they will destroy our GLONASS, and we will destroy their GPS ... and? What will they do next in their super duper helmets? I believe the question here is purely rhetorical, because the answer is known. I think no one needs to be reminded of the failure of the American special forces to rescue the hostages in Iran, they just got lost... CARL LOST!!! And this is from complete lack of knowledge and not possession of simple cards. Electronics is a good thing, of course, but just as an assistant, and not as a pointer to action.
So any system is good, BUT:
First - when it is really working.
secondly, when it is duplicated and not subject to hacking, and this is practically unrealistic in the world of electronics.
thirdly, when a soldier, and even more so a commander, is able to do without it at all, i.e. read the situation on a regular map, hello to the Soviet school of orienteering.

So for any tricky bolt there is always a nut with a reverse thread! You should not completely rely on progress, sometimes you need to remember the experience of your ancestors and be able to determine where the South is and where the North is not on a smartphone, but at least on a regular compass, but at a maximum on the sun and stars.

[Barberry25]

this is not to mention the fact that in the event of any protracted conflict of high intensity, any expensive and high-tech equipment will end very quickly

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Andrey Moskvin

Where can you use it in civilian life?

Mistresses to identify

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Seryoga64

Mistresses to identify

God forbid, such a device will fall into the hands of wives.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: tihonmarine

God forbid, such a device will fall into the hands of wives.

Definitely hit

[Artunis]

For every cunning bolt there is a nut with a squiggle, they will hack and slip a video of my husband fishing (hunting, football ......)

[Kesha1980]

Where can you use it in civilian life?

"With the paid installation of an additional module and the "Premium Plus" patch, virtual porn with new mods is available - Hussein, Hitler, etc. Microsoft doreal helmets - feel like a "winner"!")

[Rusticolus]

I already know one owner of such a device. He really doesn’t have a helmet, but a chip was immediately sewn into his brain, with the Napoleon program. And updates come through the introduction of coke.

[NDR-791]

Quote: Stas1973

Naive children. Before the first installation of electronic warfare or, God forbid, before the first EMP. Another drink.

We will pretend that we believe this information 150%. And right now we will remove the paper card from all educational institutions. And we will hand over the compass to the warehouse ... according to the inventory. Yep, it will. Only in the last five years I have heard THREE times how UWB military educational institutions are switching to electronic, then again to paper, then again to electronic. "This has never happened before, and here it is again!"
(V. Chernomyrdin)

[minus]

Honestly, 99 percent of newfangled electronic gadgets and software applications do more harm. And there is no benefit and they are specifically stupid ....

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Minus

Honestly, 99 percent of newfangled electronic gadgets and software applications do more harm. And there is no benefit and they are specifically stupid ....

Technique in the hands of the Papuans is always useless.
It's like blaming guns for people's deaths, guns don't kill people, people do. It's the same with technology.
I personally like to always have an encyclopedia, a professional reference book, a navigator, a translator, an accounting department, a document editor and 1000 more useful functions in one smartphone with me. About similar 15 years ago did not even dream of.
And if someone is initially without a brain, then technology is not to blame ..... what is dead cannot die.

[Region-25.rus]

army and Microsoft

Reminds me of South Park

[Thrifty]

Here recently, one in a smart and terribly expensive helmet on an aircraft carrier, when landing, equipped the antenna, and drowned the plane .... This is me, for example ....

[Starover_Z]

Quote: Stas1973

Naive children. Before the first installation of electronic warfare or, God forbid, before the first EMP. Another drink.

Do they hope to get to any corner of Russia in three days? Batteries are not enough to walk through Russian forests!

system power supply: batteries must maintain its performance for 72 hours.

[Troll]

When Popov invented the radio, he experimented with it on the ships of the Russian Navy. Was it drunk or not? He installed and experimented with it not at his own expense.

[voyaka uh]

At the time of Popov, radio communications were treated approximately the same as they are now with GPS or artificial intelligence: "whim, unnecessary, unreliable ..., drank the budget, etc."

[YOUR]

Quote: Stas1973

before the first EMP

After the first EMP, everything you need is not electronics, but a deep, concreted basement with food, water and other supplies for a couple of decades.

[Alarmist79]

=Naive children. Before the first installation of electronic warfare or, God forbid, before the first EMP. Another drank. =
Should radio communication in your personal reality also be abandoned? There are EMP and TERRIBLE electronic warfare.
There is a countermeasure for any weapon / equipment.

[rocket757]

Compass and map are not needed: in the US, the development of a special display for the army continues

. Yes, everything is fine .... the technologies of the future appear just like that.
Although, countermeasures are also developing at no less pace ...
Parallel work is underway.

[spirit]

I agree, these are still prototypes, something really working in 5-10 years will be washed down based on experience, plus when technologies catch up (just like helmets for META universes are sawed on the civilian market)
And the sect of EW witnesses will resist to the last) not realizing that limited countries have a minimum number of such systems, and they don’t hit so hot as far + no one will keep them on the front line

[rocket757]

We will not talk about the sect, there are many of them, different ... and electronic warfare is also developing and will have its place in military affairs.
Everything should be in the mind and in place.

[minus]

And what is the use of this metaverse??? Or maybe you also bought several hectares for your house there? Why all this? Everyone is voluntarily forcibly driven into the matrix ....

[Geofiz]

1. The range of the Krasukha-4 complex is estimated at 150-300 kilometers ...
2. Due to the secrecy of the project, most of the information about the new complex has not yet been disclosed. Only some general facts about the system are known, which nevertheless allow some preliminary conclusions to be drawn. According to domestic media, the Rychag-AV complex is capable of suppressing enemy electronic equipment at ranges of about 100-150 km. This ensures simultaneous work on several goals.
3. Complex "Divnomorye" zone of continuous coverage of 200 km
Also, developments are underway on the AVM lever project, and many others ... but how many are not mentioned? So it is not necessary to be at the forefront at all in order to drown out the signal of the enemy.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: spirit

I agree, these are still prototypes, something really working in 5-10 years will be washed down based on experience, plus when technologies catch up (just like helmets for META universes are sawed on the civilian market)
And the sect of EW witnesses will resist to the last) not realizing that limited countries have a minimum number of such systems, and they don’t hit so hot as far + no one will keep them on the front line

A sect is not a sect, electronic warfare is not an electronic warfare, but now the battle "dragged out" and the power went out, so what? Where to break if you forgot how to move without this device, where are your own, where are strangers? Compass and map are missing as unnecessary. And how will this stray behave in conditions of low temperatures and snow? Stomp on captivity, and on the way, pound trees with this helmet, scare away wolves .. No, for some reason this contraption will undoubtedly come in handy and will be useful, but not massively.

[YOUR]

EW witness sect There is such. Moreover, these sectarians for the most part have no idea how it works. How they do not understand that it is very easy to extinguish any electronic warfare. Any anti-radar projectile will go to her without turning and without being distracted

[Seryoga64]

It amazes me that we live in a time when this system already exists.

But it doesn't work properly

[Rusticolus]

So it's soft. Nothing ever works for them.

[mag nit]

Nanotechnology was stolen from Chubais.

[neurostimulator]

No compass or map needed.

Foreign "comrades" have clearly begun to grow wiser ... which cannot but worry.
The ancient Greek kings owned the same wisdom, they said something like this: "The war must be ended quickly - you cannot teach the enemy to fight for too long." ... Good advice for our mines / defense and not only.

[Andrey Moskvin]

With Russia somehow no one succeeded quickly. And we learned...

[neurostimulator]

"Generals are always preparing for the last war" - this is another piece of wisdom. Because your statement looks very much like a quote from people with whom I had to deal.

[Andrey Moskvin]

I didn’t understand you, that attacks on Russia once quickly ended in victory for the attacker?

[neurostimulator]

To know the price of victory, you need to have an idea about the victims, especially the irrevocable ones.
One of the accusations against Napoleon Bonaparte after fleeing Moscow meant that in the war with our ancestors he ruined the whole color of the French nation and the future of France, that even if he won the war with Russia, forcing him to sign a peace treaty, the profit received would still be did not cover the huge damage from irretrievable losses.
Russia has lost much more, the last world war is a good example of this. ... We do not need to rely on victories, but on the memory of those who have not been able to celebrate them. Conclusions must be drawn about what cannot be lost further. This applies to both foreign policy and domestic policy, especially the so-called regional one.

[Andrey Moskvin]

Some verbiage.

[neurostimulator]

This is not verbiage, but "thought delusion" ... for everyone who today on the Titanic is too fun, or too calm ... or who does not have the appropriate knowledge of specialized subjects - in general, for everyone to whom <the obvious is not obvious > (this is a very inoffensive version of the expression - at least a stake on your head scratches - I advise you to clarify what exactly it means, that is, both the direct meaning and the analogy with a stake on your head).

[Andrey Moskvin]

A stake on Tesha's heads. From the word hew, (chop). Competent you are ours. Scratching a stake is probably difficult

[neurostimulator]

Well, .. you distorted everything, taking too ancient words as a basis. But the word "cut" should have led you to a picture of the process itself and to an assessment of the "cast iron" of the "base" itself, where there should be a stake in this case

[minus]

A new partner has come to work. And let's offer innovations - programs in phones .... And the type of route will be compiled according to applications and * convenient * and in general it's cool !!!! The management immediately became interested - it’s also possible to see where the employee is at a given time!)))) I immediately declared that it wouldn’t work out budget. And in general, with such innovations, I will send everyone on an erotic journey, sooooo far away))) And this partner is still acting weird on his phone. He writes something down there, keeps records .... What you can read on the sheet with applications in seconds or make a note on the same sheet, he does ..... In general, for 10 minutes, he is stupid on each action

[minus]

As a result, he spends an extra hour and a half a day of working time on this. And several times the program has led him nowhere. And the dubious pleasure of fussing in the winter with the phone. Already the girls of the operators are cursing him. What about communication problems? The work will stop altogether. No, I do not need such automation and informatization!)))

[minus]

Here is an innovation that was recently proposed to me. - You can assemble a probe on an arduino. It will be small, the multimeter will be smaller, it will be more convenient to hold it in your hands. And he will send the measurements via Wi-Fi to the phone!
I asked him, how are you going to hold the phone? He thought .... -nuuuu, nuuu ..... Well, it will be convenient .... But he did not answer what he would keep.
Offered many innovations. And hearing reasoned objections, he only blinks his eyes in confusion and is offended.

[neurostimulator]

A good example of the embodiment of ideas torn from practice about "how everything should be." Such "enthusiasts" very often are not at all interested in anyone's successes, except for their own - they have no time to be interested in this. That's why they walk on the rake around the clock, besides, far from alone, judging by your description.

[Max PV]

In all this "smart" electronics in military affairs, they strain me, in addition to resistance to electronic warfare and electromagnetic radiation, which many people talk about, but which can be partially or completely, albeit theoretically, but can be dealt with, also:
1. Radiation in the radio range, unmasking a soldier on the battlefield.
2. Resistance of electronic components to ionizing radiation. Especially now, when they are trying to make military electronics with very high performance and low power consumption, which requires a transition to ICs with a maximum component density, made using technologies of tens and even units of nanometers. And how they will behave even under the influence of low intensity, but consisting of quanta and high-energy particles of ionizing radiation, is a big question.
3. The effectiveness of such systems in processing false, contradictory, incomplete and probabilistic information. War is always, to one degree or another, confusion and chaos: the answer to many questions is usually "X knows him" or this answer will begin with "presumably", "probably", whoever has to do something may die or get injured, the enemy may not act as expected, full information is usually available when it is already "too late to drink Borjomi", what you need may be absent for a million reasons, and in the place of a separate building on the map, in real life it may turn out a funnel and a mountain of garbage, or the same face of a comrade must be recognized when he is in a state of stress, malnutrition, in dirt, with wounds, in variable and insufficient lighting, visible only partially, and even in motion, and so on and so forth. similar. The human brain is initially "sharpened" precisely to work with incomplete and partially unreliable information, and electronics is the opposite.

[Vasyan1971]

the army and Microsoft are trying to "improve the quality and reliability of the display" by eliminating the shortcomings.

Familiar story with f-35!

Despite this resistance, in March the company was awarded a $22 billion contract to start production of IVAS (120 units).

[lvov_aleksey]

Quote: Starover_Z

72

it’s more boring here, they will learn to look for batteries in winter, in the forest, in Russia)))
"batteries should keep it running for 72 hours."
Blitz Creek will not work (((

[lvov_aleksey]

Quote: Max PV

In all this "smart" electronics in military affairs, they strain me, in addition to resistance to electronic warfare and electromagnetic radiation, which many people talk about, but which can be partially or completely, albeit theoretically, but can be dealt with, also:
1. Radiation in the radio range, unmasking a soldier on the battlefield.
2. Resistance of electronic components to ionizing radiation. Especially now, when they are trying to make military electronics with very high performance and low power consumption, which requires a transition to ICs with a maximum component density, made using technologies of tens and even units of nanometers. And how they will behave even under the influence of low intensity, but consisting of quanta and high-energy particles of ionizing radiation, is a big question.
3. The effectiveness of such systems in processing false, contradictory, incomplete and probabilistic information. War is always, to one degree or another, confusion and chaos: the answer to many questions is usually "X knows him" or this answer will begin with "presumably", "probably", whoever has to do something may die or get injured, the enemy may not act as expected, full information is usually available when it is already "too late to drink Borjomi", what you need may be absent for a million reasons, and in the place of a separate building on the map, in real life it may turn out a funnel and a mountain of garbage, or the same face of a comrade must be recognized when he is in a state of stress, malnutrition, in dirt, with wounds, in variable and insufficient lighting, visible only partially, and even in motion, and so on and so forth. similar. The human brain is initially "sharpened" precisely to work with incomplete and partially unreliable information, and electronics is the opposite.

Here I will say, our fathers-grandfathers did not press the button, at one time, the conclusion is that psychos are not kept there, and of course they control
ps just not electronics, any psycho knowing mine electrics could do a self-start ...
Electronics is the most unreliable tool for retaliation after a nuclear explosion, unfortunately!

[megadeth]

We manually change the terrain ....., We got military tablets (maps), now they will ask for directions ..., we went through all this ...

[Ryaruav]

yes, everything is fine, like a magnet in the ass, here's a campas for you

[Rusticolus]

Considering that their asses are a "passage yard". Then they will either break this magnet or lose it.

[iouris]

In the event of radio-electronic interference, the army will be uncontrollable and incompetent, completely or partially?

[Grossvater]

And then such a small fragment arrives. Glass of shit! And ... It remains a survey of local residents !
Well, or just the battery will sit down, and the socket, on this battlefield, Musk has not yet installed ...

[Yarhann]

purely from the side of it, such a system would be suitable in the case of the use of augmented reality, this rather dense technology is quite successfully used both at the tactical and at the combat level. that is, mark the detected targets (UAVs, teplaki, etc. give information) and the location of your unit (enemy) on the minimap.
there is nothing particularly complicated about this - but this means that each fighter must carry a computer and batteries with him - that is, it will be like a smartphone (tablet). Here, rather, the question is how to connect all this into a single computer network (WiFi), so much so that the transfer of information would be quite secretive within this network. And the second is who and how will connect this local network (subdivisions, detachments) with external sources of information (reconnaissance UAVs, aviation, headquarters data center, etc.). I fully assume that such an access point (WIFI) can be a reconnaissance UAV - it will simultaneously distribute the network and information in it, while simultaneously providing all the combat and tactical information for the unit. And keep in touch with the outside world - that is, relay.
It is possible to build a network of several UAVs - at a high altitude there is the same UAV router with good optics that receives tactical information, and directly above the battlefield there are combat switches (small drones) that receive combat information.
As for electronic warfare, don’t worry too much here - all this will work, as the same good military radio stations work - yes, under the conditions of electronic warfare, the range drops, the data transmission channel narrows in digital - but there is communication)
I would be more worried about the resistance of such systems to hacking - when the enemy can receive tactical and combat information from this local network.

[Svejk]

Electronic warfare is not all that can interfere with the work of these wunderhelms. It's Microsoft, which means software glitches - a play on words - are programmed. The battery can sit down, they can hack. Impact, breakage due to mechanical impact, anything. Extreme temperatures? This is electronics, which means there will be failures, in any case.

[Alarmist79]

Quote: Starover_Z

Do they hope to get to any corner of Russia in three days? Batteries are not enough to walk through Russian forests!

Yes. And the cartridges are generally enough for a few minutes of intense combat. Therefore, only clubs, only hardcore.