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A series of important statements made by the Minister of Defense Anatoly Serdyukov

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A series of important statements was made by the Minister of Defense Anatoly Serdyukov. He spoke about the problems arising during the test of the Bulava missile, explained how much the army needed the Lynx armored vehicles, and shed light on the background of disagreements with Kyrgyzstan over the Russian military base.

Problems were from the very beginning

On Friday, Russian Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov said that the implementation of the next stage of Bulava tests on Borey nuclear submarines was hampered by problems in the software of the launch control system, Interfax reports.

According to the minister, the problems in the software do not yet allow to name the exact date of the next launch.

“There are technical problems with the software, the automatic control system is being debugged. We hope that by the end of the year we will be able to launch the Bulava intercontinental ballistic missile from the Alexander Nevsky nuclear submarine, ”said Serdyukov.

In addition, he stated that the USC could not yet hand over the first submarine nuclear cruiser of the 955 “Borey” project “Yury Dolgoruky” to the Russian military department. The date of transfer of this ship to the Russian Navy has been repeatedly postponed. “When they (USC) eliminate all the shortcomings, I can’t say until they succeed,” the defense minister said.

Earlier it was reported that the Bulava missile system and its staff carrier, the Yuri Dolgoruky submarine missile carrier, will be put into service with the Russian Navy after two test rocket launches that will take place in October.

“State running tests of“ Yuri Dolgoruky ”will be completed by the end of October. Until that time, we plan to hold at least two test launches of the Bulava: one at the beginning, the other at the extreme days of the month, ”the Interfax source in the defense industry said.

According to him, the possibility of launching a Bulava from Yury Dolgoruky and Alexander Nevsky is being studied.

A series of important statements made by the Minister of Defense Anatoly Serdyukov


Captain of the first rank of the reserve, submariner Mikhail Volzhensky noted that the problem, which the Minister of Defense stated, made itself felt even during the first launches. “By and large, any software problem depends on the number of programmers who participate in its resolution, and consequently, on the money that is allocated. It is much easier than building a new product, so the ministry will correct the existing problem, ”said Volzhensky’s VIEW to the newspaper.

“To declare that with the Bulava we have completed all the work, it makes no sense, because there is a complex of issues related to the management system, which has not yet been resolved. Most importantly, the "Bulava" flies. And how quickly and well it will be managed is a software issue, ”said the submariner.

Submarines of the 955 project of the Borey class of the 4 generation are designed in the St. Petersburg Central Design Bureau of the Rubin marine technology. Each submarine can carry X-NUMX P-16 “Bulava” missiles with a range of more than 30 thousand km, equipped with multiple heads of individual guidance.

In May of this year, the Ministry of Defense and defense enterprises signed three contracts for upgraded strategic submarine missile carriers of the new Borey-class 955A project with enhanced nuclear missile weapons - each of five such submarines will carry the Bulava 20. Thus, within the framework of the state armament program up to 2020, eight strategic-purpose submarine-launched missile cruisers will be built and transferred to the Navy - three 955 projects (Borey cipher) with the fourth-generation Bulava 16 and five 955А projects (Borey-A cipher ) with the 20 MBA "Mace" of the fifth generation.

Three thousand "Rysya"

The head of the military department also announced the conclusion of an agreement with OJSC Motovilikhinskiye Zavody about the supply of multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS) Tornado-G to the 36 troops. “We have already concluded the contract for the party from 36 MLRS Tornado-G this year, we are not planning anymore,” said Anatoly Serdyukov.

Speaking about the needs of the Russian Land Forces in armored vehicles "Lynx", he noted that the army needs more than three thousand such vehicles. “The need is not even in the three thousand“ Lynx ”armored vehicles, but more, because for us the priority is the safety of the personnel. Armored vehicles are a very important area for us, and in the next three years we must localize the production of “Ryysya” to 70 percent, and this is far from a screwdriver assembly, ”the Defense Minister said.

Bombers in Kyrgyzstan

According to Serdyukov, the airfield of the Russian military base in Kyrgyzstan will be able to receive strategic bombers in six months. “Technically, we will complete the reconstruction of the runway of the Kant airdrome in six months. That is, in theory, in half a year the airfield will be able to take our strategic Aviation, but any real landing of such equipment is a kind of application that needs to be carefully weighed, ”the head of the military department said.

He noted that organizational-staff measures related to the creation of a joint base in Kyrgyzstan are already underway and will be completed in the near future. “A unified command and control system will be created, and a senior military commander will be appointed. This is spelled out in the agreement, ”the Minister noted.

Russian underwater test base located in Kyrgyzstan weapons in Karakol, the military communications center in Kara-Balta, the radio seismic laboratory in Maily-Suu, and the CSTO air base in Kant. Russia intends to unite these four objects into one base under the general command.

Commenting on the agreement on the timing of the deployment of the joint Russian military base in Kyrgyzstan, which was concluded the day before in Bishkek, Anatoly Serdyukov clarified that prior to the signing of this document there were many issues related to investments. “We need to build a hospital, for example. For the sake of what, in four years to get out of there? ”He explained.

According to the minister, Russia needed to clearly understand the length of stay in this country, “in order to fully develop, build, modernize the base, and deliver the equipment.” “We are, in fact,“ sitting ”on armament, which we rent from them, and it does not suit us either by technical condition, or by age, or by characteristics. Naturally, we would like to replace it, but spend a lot of money on delivery and then take it all back in three years? ”Serdyukov noted.

He recalled that the military and military-political leadership of Kyrgyzstan has repeatedly stated its interest in finding a Russian military base on the territory of this country.

“Literally over the past three months, this issue has received quite a good development. We all signed, and I, frankly, very pleased, ”summed up the head of the Russian Ministry of Defense.

Supply remains military

The Russian Federal Agency for the supply of weapons, military, special equipment and material resources (Rosoboronpostavka), which is entrusted with the functions of a state customer in the framework of the state defense order, will remain subordinate to the Russian Defense Ministry, said Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov.

Russian President Vladimir Putin 7 May ordered the preparation of proposals for the withdrawal from subordination of the Russian Defense Ministry federal agencies responsible for placing the state defense order and control of its execution - Rosoboronzakaz and Rosoboronpostavki. Rosoboronzakaz was transferred from the Ministry of Defense to the 21 government in May by a decree on the structure of the government.

“Rosoboronpostavka will not be transferred anywhere, it will remain under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Defense. This is, in fact, an analogue of our state order department, which holds all the auctions, ”the minister said.

According to him, more than 80% of orders that pass through Rosoboronpostavka are directly related to the Ministry of Defense. “It would be strange if the Ministry of Defense took the functions of the state customer of defense products. Take any army of the world, there is no such anywhere, ”Serdyukov added.

At the same time, he clarified that the Department of State Order of the Ministry of Defense, which had previously performed functions similar to Rosoboronpostavka, will not be disbanded. “It will simply be reformed and will purchase products outside the framework of the defense order,” noted Serdyukov.
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  1. andrei332809
    andrei332809 22 September 2012 07: 40
    +4
    need to do, do and do. and control. and then in words one thing, in fact, another, but what is in the head is not at all clear.
    1. soldat1945
      soldat1945 22 September 2012 08: 26
      +14
      Yes, I agree with you, but why don’t I understand the 3000 lynxes I’m serving on the Tigers, I’ve also talked to the guys from the 10th Special Forces brigade, they are just laughing at the Caucasus in the Caucasus now, they’re passing through and placing personnel An order of magnitude worse than the Tiger, it would be better if Comrade Serdyukov gave the Arzamas money that instead of 3 tigers they would send 6 troops and bring to mind all the weak knots. And so from the article it turns out that in all strategic endeavors we have a priest, that the base in Kyrgyzstan, that the mace!
      1. andrei332809
        andrei332809 22 September 2012 10: 12
        +3
        Quote: soldat1945
        but why do we need 3000 lynxes

        and this is to ride on European roads, when everything will finally crack at the seams
        1. Diman
          Diman 22 September 2012 11: 23
          +5
          Yes, he (Taburetkin) has a face muzzle cracking at the seams. Authors of articles may have enough of this physiognomy in the article to spread? And then already sick. We all already know how he looks.
          1. andrei332809
            andrei332809 22 September 2012 11: 27
            -2
            Quote: Diman
            Authors of articles may already have enough of this physiognomy in articles to spread

            and this is to improve digestion, so that there is no constipation
          2. v53993
            v53993 22 September 2012 19: 03
            +1
            Let spread. Like emetic. Sometimes it helps.
        2. v53993
          v53993 22 September 2012 19: 01
          0
          Yes, it will be possible to nationalize by that time.
      2. Botanologist
        Botanologist 22 September 2012 21: 24
        0
        Yes, it would be nice to put Taburetkin on a Lynx - and ride along the hills and swamps. Weeks two or three, so that through the ass comes, once through the head does not reach.
      3. not good
        not good 23 September 2012 00: 31
        0
        When the minister (pocket) changes, the number of required MO "Ryssey" will sharply decrease,
  2. AIvanA
    AIvanA 22 September 2012 07: 43
    +5
    As everything is decorous and smooth, as much as a tear of emotion breaks through, but if the army is reduced by another one hundred and two hundred thousand, and all the Armed Forces have been provided with new weapons, and the country's defense system is elementary, there is no mobility to hell, now the last weapons from the warehouses of NZ " utilize "what and what to call in a special period will be able to arm will be nothing. But he broadcasts with honest eyes, for Russia cares m .... c.
    1. killganoff
      killganoff 22 September 2012 09: 10
      +6
      I fully agree! The mobilization potential is completely destroyed, if something happens - kirdyk to our Motherland. These 83 alert brigades will be covered in the first hours of the war. In general, the Air Force has reduced 245 operated airfields from 27 large air bases from vast territories (for the convenience of destruction) to XNUMX air bases ... and this is the whole of the Russian Federation! .... Our aviation will have a hard time.
      1. AIvanA
        AIvanA 22 September 2012 16: 07
        +1
        I can add to this the deplorable state of the fleet at these airbases, with a readiness of 30-50%, and at the expense of the kirdyk, we will wait and see.
  3. Fost325
    Fost325 22 September 2012 08: 03
    +4
    Gently slamming the helm (MO), let's see how it will sleep.
  4. Professor
    Professor 22 September 2012 08: 06
    +7
    As for the conclusion of an additional agreement with France on the construction of the third and fourth Mistral-class helicopter carriers, then, according to the head of the RF Ministry of Defense, negotiations between USC representatives and their French counterparts are ongoing.


    I do not understand, the money has already been transferred to the French, but are negotiations still underway?
    1. Karish
      Karish 22 September 2012 10: 04
      +6
      Quote: Professor
      I do not understand, the money has already been transferred to the French, but are negotiations still underway?

      And what's so surprising? There are questions of cutting. And in general, there is such a profession to negotiate (it doesn’t matter at all what, at least at the UN, at least at the IAEA, UNISEF or WHO) The main thing is to create a problem and then unsuccessfully suck it for years (weighing additional problems) Solve not necessary, the main thing is that. overseas. travel, hotels, etc. And when the problems of others were higher than personal interest.?
      You can discuss the problem of starving Africans by spending on commissions. congresses, symposia, etc. the amount that could feed them 20 times. And the result - the date of the next meeting of the assistance commission is approved _________ - enter the country laughing
      1. olegyurjewitch
        olegyurjewitch 22 September 2012 15: 59
        +1
        Quote: Karish
        And what's so surprising? There are still cut questions. And in general, there is such a profession to negotiate (it doesn’t matter at all what, at least at the UN, at least at the IAEA, UNISEF or WHO) The main thing is to create a problem and then unsuccessfully suck it up for years (weighing additional problems)

        And each time to increase funding for allegedly solving these problems.
      2. v53993
        v53993 22 September 2012 19: 07
        +1
        It is more profitable to saw Mistrals. Metal sawdust is more expensive than wood from stools.
  5. Imperial
    Imperial 22 September 2012 08: 38
    +4
    Yes, it’s all right, you won’t feed the army with breakfast alone. Interesting, but what about M. O’s successfully ordering? stationery? Newfangled gadgets and cocksmiths in addition? What does M.O. come out with? We have rich order but no ... Here we don’t need Taburetkin and Rogozin, but Malyuta with the oprichnina and Beria with the NKVD.
  6. ShturmKGB
    ShturmKGB 22 September 2012 09: 08
    +1
    I should have asked what will happen to the "Sharks" from which the missiles were removed? For cutting? It's a pity if so ...
  7. Belo_ticketnik
    Belo_ticketnik 22 September 2012 09: 12
    0
    “It would be strange if the functions of the state customer of defense products were taken from the Ministry of Defense. Take any army in the world, this is not anywhere else, ”added Serdyukov.

    I think that the level of corruption in this sector in other countries will probably be lower.
    Catch bribe takers and in special. wagons to Siberia to carry to develop the region hi .
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 22 September 2012 18: 57
      +2
      yeah yeah. Omerika is generally holy instead of with NATO and Afghanistan. In other countries, of course, everything is better than in Russia.
      And with corruption too

      1. Joker
        Joker 23 September 2012 00: 34
        +4
        I get a grumbling westerner recourse and if I'm just self-critical?
        1. spender
          spender 23 September 2012 00: 37
          +2
          Quote: Joker
          I get a grumbling westerner, and if I'm just self-critical?

          You are a normal person and a great moder! Do not get carried away by self-eating hi
          1. Joker
            Joker 23 September 2012 01: 25
            +3
            Thank you very much Alexey, I am glad that there are people like you and your whole "gang" on the site, I go to the site and just relax with you drinks today laughed right up to tears when Pupyrchaty was offered sex services laughing
  8. saturn.mmm
    saturn.mmm 22 September 2012 09: 29
    +3
    I read the article and remembered
    - Crocodile is not caught, coconut does not grow.
  9. bremest
    bremest 22 September 2012 09: 33
    +2
    A disgrace, not a minister. Some petty statements and no real business. Meanwhile, the country without the Boreans, without the Mace, in Lynx cars, and Tabrutekin with the idiot Makarych with kickbacks.
    1. Karish
      Karish 22 September 2012 10: 08
      +4
      Quote: bremest
      A disgrace, not a minister. Some petty statements and no real business. Meanwhile, the country without the Boreans, without the Mace, in Lynx cars, and Tabrutekin with the idiot Makarych with kickbacks.

      By the way, they work together with Rogozin and only St. Putin (as always knows nothing that the boyars are setting him up) has nothing to do with it. But I forgot, there is still Medvedev. Now Putin is just repealing Medvedev’s greatest reforms, like summertime, canceling an article for defamation, etc. A little more and his beloved AIPED will select, what will happen? The bear will surely be offended, will cry and ..... will remain laughing
      1. alexdol
        alexdol 22 September 2012 19: 28
        -1
        Karish (4) IL "..and only holy Putin (as always knows nothing that the boyars are setting him up) have nothing to do with it"
        I completely agree with you, but that's what surprised me now, why weren't you given any "cons"? When I said something like that about Putin and Medvedev, they actively minus me! Has it finally happened that FOREIGNMENT has finally happened?
        1. 11Goor11
          11Goor11 22 September 2012 23: 37
          +2
          Yes, yes all is bad! No, not bad, but very bad!
          Repeat this a night before bedtime a hundred times, and soon get rid of all the torment, this disgusting life.
  10. Karish
    Karish 22 September 2012 09: 57
    +1
    “To declare that with Bulava we have completed all the work, there is no point, because there is a complex of issues related to the management system that has not yet been resolved. Most importantly, the Bulava flies. And how quickly and well it will be managed, this is a software issue, ”said the submariner.

    That's right . to be honest. that the Mace, as an armament system, is not ready, and when it is ready it is not known - the language does not turn.
    By the way, where is Rogozin with his triumphant coverage?
    Thus, in the framework of the state armament program, until 2020, eight strategic missile submarine cruisers will be built and transferred to the Navy - three projects 955 (code “Borey”) with 16 fourth-generation Bulava ICBMs and five projects 955A (code “Borey-A” ) with the 20th ICBM “Bulava” of the fifth generation.

    Strange, the day before (or the same day) he said the following
    So, the head of the Ministry of Defense Anatoly Serdyukov said, hit still cannot receive from the shipbuilders the nuclear-powered submarine of project 955 "Borey" - "Yuri Dolgoruky", the date of transfer of which to the military department has already been repeatedly postponed.

    And then there is only 8 years left for 8 pieces and this is with the 5th generation rockets (when the 4th is not yet ready)
    At the same time, he clarified that the Department of State Order of the Ministry of Defense, which had previously performed functions similar to Rosoboronpostavka, will not be disbanded. “It will simply be reformed and will purchase products outside the framework of the defense order,” noted Serdyukov.

    Disband officials? Neither case.
    1. Sokol peruna
      Sokol peruna 22 September 2012 10: 41
      0
      And then there is only 8 years left for 8 pieces and this is with the 5th generation rockets (when the 4th is not yet ready)

      The article seems to be about 5th generation PLAB.
      Thus, in the framework of the state armament program, until 2020, it is planned to build and transfer to the Navy eight strategic missile submarine cruisers - three projects 955 (code "Borey") with 16 ICBM Bulava fourth generation и five projects 955A (code "Borey-A") с 20 ICBM Bulava fifth generation.

      Although both 955 and 955A are PLASTER 4 generations. Just the first ones were created using the backlog from ICAPL pr.971, and the second ones with the backlog from PLACR pr.949A. By the way, this piece of article in the course of the original creation of uv. Journalists Elena Sidorenko.
      About eight pieces in eight years, I absolutely agree with you. Only this year, the entry into service of Yuri Dolgoruky was transferred to the law twice already.
      1. Varnaga
        Varnaga 22 September 2012 15: 29
        +3
        Only this year, the entry into service of Yuri Dolgoruky was transferred to the law twice already.

        So what's so surprising about that? It should be understood that pr. 955 is completely different from what was done before and some systems that were not made out of touch require complete debugging, in particular ACS ... By the way, the guys from our NGOA named after Semikhatov is practically without a trip on business trips to the Jude, and they also plow from the GRC as damned, they promise to finish everything by the end of October and hand over the Ju to state acceptance ...
        By the way, let's recall how things were going with the adoption of the new SSBN in the USSR:
        "On September 22, 1964, a resolution of the Council of Ministers was issued according to which a project for the modernization of the Project 658 submarine in the Project 701 submarine should be developed to conduct missile tests and a project for the modernization of all Project 658 submarines in order to accommodate the D-9 complex on them. at the end of 1964, the PLRB pr.658 K-145 was allocated.In the course of modernization, six 4S-75-1 launchers were mounted on it.In spite of the fact that by the end of March 1971, the boat had completed factory tests, no missile launches were made, as ground tests were completed only in November of the same year. The first launch from the boat took place on December 25, 1971. Since the White Sea was covered with ice, the launch was made from the surface position. During the fifth launch, a rocket explosion occurred when leaving the mine. the damage went for repairs to the Northern Machine-Building Enterprise, where it was until August 3, 1972. On August 21 of the same year, the sixth launch was carried out. December 19, 1976 K-145 was modernized bathroom on Project 701 became part of the Navy. The rest of the submarines of pr.658, it was decided not to upgrade. At the same time, according to the same resolution of the CM, the design bureau of design bureau "Malakhit" was underway, project 601. The project provided for the rearmament of the submarine pr.629. complex D-9. According to this project, only one K-118 submarine was re-equipped, six R-29 missiles were placed on it. K-118, modernized according to Project 601, entered the Navy on December 28, 1978. On December 27, the first SSBN project 667B K-279 entered the Navy. "
        Total: Even it took 12 years to transform the old boat into a test boat and then take it to the Navy - at the peak of the power of the USSR.

        And yet, everyone’s beloved R-39 on the parameters originally announced in the statement of work was released only in R-39UTTX, you can calculate how much time it took.
        1. Sokol peruna
          Sokol peruna 22 September 2012 22: 40
          0
          Varnaga
          So what's so surprising about that?

          Yes, now there is nothing surprising in this. It was amazing when I was young and naive until 31.12.2010/3/12 waiting for news about the entry into the Russian Navy of 2009 nuclear submarines promised by President Medvedev to his native Navy on November XNUMX, XNUMX in a speech with the annual message to the Federal Assembly and, as I understand it, the whole country. It seemed to me that the president’s word was stronger than concrete.
          It should be understood that pr. 955 is completely different from what was done before, and some systems that were not made out of touch require complete debugging, in particular ACS ...

          And who said that I do not understand. I understand everything I think ...
          By the way, the guys from our NGOA them. Semikhatov is practically without a trip on business trips to the Jude, and they also plow from the GRC as damned, they promise to finish everything by the end of October and hand over the Ju to state acceptance ...

          Do not misunderstand me. I really respect the prom. But I’m absolutely sure that everyone involved, also promised to finish everything by the day of the Navy, while they also plowed like damned. But at the same time, we have what we have - it was not possible to complete the UD on time, and the deadline was shifted to the right.
          Why are you so sure that in October it will be handed over for state acceptance, and not shifted back to the right?
          By the way, let's recall how things were going with the adoption of the new SSBN in the USSR

          For some reason, we all remember different things. For example, I remembered PLABR pr.667A Navaga. Development began in 1961, on April 24, 1962, a government decree was followed to create the D-5 complex with the R-27 missile, laying the head box of the K-137 series on 04.11.1964/11.09.1966/06.11.1967 was launched XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX, went into operation XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX
          In total, 6 years have passed from the beginning of the development of the project to the entry into operation of Leninets. A series of 34 units was built in about 7 years.
          1. Varnaga
            Varnaga 23 September 2012 09: 59
            0
            Yes, now there is nothing surprising in this. It was amazing when I was young and naive until 31.12.2010/3/12 waiting for news about the entry into the Russian Navy of 2009 nuclear submarines promised by President Medvedev to his native Navy on November XNUMX, XNUMX in a speech with the annual message to the Federal Assembly and, as I understand it, the whole country. It seemed to me that the president’s word was stronger than concrete.

            I already wrote that the development of the head carrier can take much longer than planned, which we, unfortunately, see. By the way, the development of 667A (according to the wiki) began in 1958, and not in 1961.
            For some reason, we all remember different things. For example, I remembered PLABR pr.667A Navaga. Development began in 1961, on April 24, 1962, a government decree was followed to create the D-5 complex with the R-27 missile, laying the head box of the K-137 series on 04.11.1964/11.09.1966/06.11.1967 was launched XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX, went into operation XNUMX/XNUMX/XNUMX

            Well, yes, everything is correct, however, how does this cancel out what I wrote above? Obviously, the higher the complexity of the complex (reducing the prelaunch time, the launch of SLBMs in one salvo, the ship’s digital computer system was used for the first time, etc.), the more time is required for its development and adoption, which is what we are using as an example of the D-9 complex and we see.
            Why are you so sure that in October it will be handed over for state acceptance, and not shifted back to the right?

            Judging by the informal. conversations (within the framework of hints and omissions, of course, hi art. 283) in our NGO, there is nothing so critical there and will not take much time. Wait and see.
  11. PatriotizTAT
    PatriotizTAT 22 September 2012 10: 07
    -1
    He’s a nonsense! The main thing is that he wouldn’t get sick on the monitor ... not a goat all the same! recourse
    1. cool.cube2012
      cool.cube2012 22 September 2012 16: 47
      0
      and Putin taburetkina loves macaroni and Chubais and other non-Russians wassat and no offense to anyone.
  12. bunta
    bunta 22 September 2012 10: 20
    +4
    "Basically, any software problem depends on the number of programmers."

    Stupidity.
    1. sergey261180
      sergey261180 22 September 2012 17: 41
      +1
      I already bounced while sitting! The more programmers, the stronger the defense!
    2. PiP
      PiP 22 September 2012 22: 42
      0
      This is not stupidity, this is the logic of the construction battalion - "the more people there are, the faster we will dig a trench." In general, it is NOT WORSE when a crowd of people writes software and everyone inserts something of their own into the code. It turns out like in a cartoon about a letter from Uncle Fyodor from Prostokvashino: "Hello dear Mom and Dad, I live well ............ Either paws ache, or the tail falls off"
  13. Imperial
    Imperial 22 September 2012 10: 45
    0

    "Basically, any software problem depends on the number of programmers."

    Stupidity.
    No, you, pardon me, state Taburetkin expects that the number will smoothly (10-100 ... years) grow into QUALITY.
    1. Professor
      Professor 22 September 2012 10: 48
      0
      Quantity requires funding - that's where the point is.
      Let him learn from Oracle or Google ...
    2. Karish
      Karish 22 September 2012 10: 54
      +1
      Quote: Imperial
      , State Taburetkin expects that the number will smoothly (10-100 ... years) grow into QUALITY.

      Putin has something to think about laughing
      .
      Singaporean Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew, who led the government from 1959 to 1990, became famous for his toughness and intransigence in the fight against corruption, which he was able to successfully eradicate, making rapid economic growth possible. To the question “How did you manage to overcome corruption?”, He answered “Start by planting your three friends.” You know exactly why, and they know it. ”
      1. wax
        wax 22 September 2012 11: 18
        +2
        Exactly: the Minister of Defense, the ambassador to Ukraine and the leader are deported.
      2. Cadet787
        Cadet787 22 September 2012 11: 25
        0
        Kashir.
        I agree with you, only the one who should think, his "thinker" refused.
      3. rexby63
        rexby63 22 September 2012 16: 47
        -2
        Damn, if Putin had begun to act on the example of Lee Kuan Yew, then you would not have been greeted by everyone here. He did not like not only thieves, but loafers and talkers. And here, on the forum, 90% falls into this category. Damn the country is waiting for heroes, and pi.da still gives birth to muda..ov
  14. MI-AS-72
    MI-AS-72 22 September 2012 11: 05
    +5
    Well, rearm, only you in your life at least once saw that a major with a 1st class navigator's sign would open the gate at a checkpoint, and a major pilot also with 1st class guarded the helicopter parking lot. And you in your life (that past) could imagine that flights may not take place due to the lack of it. Or there is no one to carry out routine maintenance on helicopters because the corresponding specialists have been reduced, and the technical and operational parts of the regiments, since it was decided that the maintenance of the aircraft will be carried out in service centers so "cheaper" and there are still no centers. In our reforms through the Ministry of Defense, there is no reason for momentary gain, we lose almost everything. Therefore, we drive the crews from the combat training centers both for exercises and for show, and it turns out, like Gaidar, "and there is no one to shoot." These are the reforms in reality. And also ask who is involved in the organization of meals through the Ministry of Defense, so if in Singaporean, you no longer plant, but you need to hang.
    1. rexby63
      rexby63 23 September 2012 11: 00
      0
      Yes, you all must be dispersed to such a mother. Not officers, but whiners. With people like you, it's not like an army, you can't build a toilet. Ugh! Tired of
  15. Ares1
    Ares1 22 September 2012 11: 32
    -1
    "According to the minister, problems in the software do not yet allow us to name an exact date for the next launch." Ha ha ha! It would be funny if it weren't so sad ... The programmers are over ... They all left ... Why won't the advisors tell Mr. Comrade-Barin Serdyukov where to get competent programmers? I can give free advice: ask your older brother - the United States or Israel - they say that there are a quarter of YOUR people ... Then the chance of success will be 100%. The Bulava will definitely sink the Alexander Nevsky. Forgive God, for such a pun ... We remember such a name in vain ...
  16. AleksUkr
    AleksUkr 22 September 2012 11: 39
    +3
    In words, Taburetkin is almost doing well. He and his subordinates are covered in chocolate. However, some suppliers cannot cope with the rearmament of the army. Therefore, he "compelled" to buy equipment and weapons in the west. We can laugh, but we don't have to cry in the future. He, as always, will remain aloof. And it is not customary to scold friends in Russia, especially to plant them. All the old Putin cadres, no matter how much the electorate likes them, he is closer to himself. Warm chairs for everyone. Rumors are circulating that the candidate for the future Defense Ministry is also one of Putin's acquaintances, who are clearly more talented and smarter than the entire population of the country. They got the bad, stupid people, and there is no one to choose from. Therefore, we have what we have. Serdyukov doesn't have enough programmers, he needs to look for them. Although they are used by the whole world. Putin of willpower to remove the shameful MO. He is also busy - he will return Russia to winter time. Makarov pushes his relative to his place (according to rumors), etc. Everyone is busy. Do not bother them to solve important state problems ...
  17. BARKAS
    BARKAS 22 September 2012 11: 46
    +1
    History does not teach us anything and cut money for defense and kickbacks when arming the army and "irreplaceable" heads of military departments, all this was already in 1905. in the war with Japan, everyone knows the result, what our would-be strategists hope for the heroism of our soldiers and sailors again?
    1. mind1954
      mind1954 23 September 2012 01: 21
      -2
      When you look at how this colonial fascist administration
      the serving power of the traitorous thieves writhes from himself, then the Pentagon,
      then the State Department - it will buy it, it will not buy, etc. involuntarily
      you wonder, and they realize that all their antics
      occur amid ruins, not like scientific and technological potential,
      and the whole economy ??? !!!
      And before waving promises to unfasten
      from the stolen a few filthy crumpled "reds"
      on the development and procurement is still unknown what would be necessary
      unfasten to restore scientific and technological potential,
      in the broadest sense, including education, science, science
      Applied, cadres of engineers, skilled workers, etc. !!!

      All this bleak picture involuntarily evokes memories
      about the years of stagnation, when the ruling class preparing for "perestroika"
      joined the race with the west in the military-technical field, without paying
      attention no matter what!
      Not in an arms race, but in a scientific and technological race!
      The goal was one, so that by the time of restoration of capitalism in the country,
      get your price and be on an equal footing with the west in the field of sharing
      world influence!
      The rest did not interest them - the state of the economy and so on!
      The real balance of power in the world, with universal capitalist harmony,
      they thought it would no longer matter!

      The same impression is emerging now!
      All this bluffing with re-equipment, defense industry and other things, you only need
      in order to get a price when they sell the country,
      after TransNational Capital overlaid us with missile defense from all
      parties and they will sell us with giblets, as the whole Camarilla sold
      Sadata and the entire Camarilla Gaddafi and some are trying to sell Assad!
      It’s not long, but this shobla all military budgets, it’s not known what,
      agrees !!! And tells beautiful tales !!!
  18. Ares1
    Ares1 22 September 2012 11: 53
    0
    "In addition, he said that the USC is not yet able to hand over to the Russian military department the first nuclear-powered submarine of the project 955 Borey, Yuri Dolgoruky. The date of the transfer of this ship to the Russian Navy has been repeatedly postponed. I can’t say until they have succeeded, ”the Defense Minister said. But what V.V. Putin, being the prime minister in relation to the executors of the state order: “In turn, the head of the government noted that the financing of enterprises will be carried out for a reason - the factories will have to account for the spending of funds.
    “I can say: we are allocating huge amounts of money for this, but we need all the expenses to be documented,” Putin said.

    “They (order executors) must provide all supporting documents,” the prime minister emphasized.
    And here are the performers:

    BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF OSK OJSC

    DYACHKOV ANDREY ARKADIEVICH
    member of the board of directors
    President of OJSC "United Shipbuilding Corporation"

    KLEPACH ANDREI NIKOLAEVICH
    member of the board of directors
    Deputy Minister of Economic Development of the Russian Federation

    Olersky Viktor Aleksandrovich
    member of the board of directors
    Deputy Minister of Transport of the Russian Federation

    PUTILIN VLADISLAV NIKOLAEVICH
    member of the board of directors
    Chairman of the Board of Directors of OJSC "Rusnano"

    RAKHMANOV ALEXEY LVOVICH
    member of the board of directors
    Deputy Minister of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation

    KHARCHENKO IVAN NIKOLAEVICH
    member of the board of directors
    Member of the Military Industrial Commission under the Government of the Russian Federation

    Khudaynatov Edward Yuryevich
    member of the board of directors
    First Vice-President of OJSC "Oil Company" Rosneft "

    CHEMEZOV SERGEY VIKTOROVICH
    member of the board of directors
    General Director of the State Corporation for Assistance in the Development, Production and Export of High-Tech Industrial Products "Rostekhnologii"

    ANANIEV ALEXEY NIKOLAEVICH
    Member of the Board of Directors, Independent Director
    Chairman of the Advisory Board of the Technoserv Group of Companies

    DMITRIEV VLADIMIR ALEXANDROVICH
    Member of the Board of Directors, Independent Director
    Chairman of the State Corporation "Bank for Development and Foreign Economic Affairs (Vnesheconombank)"

    MARKELOV VITALY ANATOLIEVICH
    Member of the Board of Directors, Independent Director
    Deputy Chairman of the Board of JSC "Gazprom"

    Interestingly, one of them was asked?
  19. anfreezer
    anfreezer 22 September 2012 13: 11
    +3
    The most important statement would be: "I have submitted my resignation letter and the President has granted it."
    1. andrei332809
      andrei332809 22 September 2012 13: 17
      +4
      Quote: anfreezer
      : "I submitted my resignation letter, and the president granted it

      he is a jacket with no concept of honor. he can’t shoot himself. a resignation from such a dough-like sickle in one place
    2. MI-AS-72
      MI-AS-72 22 September 2012 13: 30
      +3
      Gentlemen, don't even dream, the price of the issue is so high that the GDP will not let anyone go anywhere, since there was organized its own internecine party at the trough, almost a "skit" for managing the state, strangers do not "go there", and the program that was announced in 1992 d, that the future of Russia is a country of the 3rd world, we extract raw materials and protect them in the global division of roles, we must do it, everything else is window dressing. So the one who comes will not be better., GDP needs to change, as Stalin in his time, first destroyed and then collected.
  20. Drappier
    Drappier 22 September 2012 14: 16
    +3
    Sorry, but he asks directly wassat
    1. smile
      smile 22 September 2012 16: 20
      +3
      Drappier
      Why is Winnie the Pooh offended? There is no forgiveness to you! :))))))
      1. Drappier
        Drappier 22 September 2012 16: 31
        +1
        It seems to me that they are relatives wassat only Winnie is stuffed with better sawdust wassat
    2. sergey261180
      sergey261180 22 September 2012 17: 52
      +2
      "sawdust in my head yes-yes-yes"
    3. v53993
      v53993 22 September 2012 19: 09
      +2
      Already choked. It is a pity that I did not choke.
  21. cth; fyn
    cth; fyn 22 September 2012 16: 56
    -1
    I would kill a reptile, how can Po change for 3 months? Well, a maximum of a week. Or do they have Sis admins so fucked up there?
    Lynx is generally a burdock, the Wolf is better and everyone knows this, its modular design allows you to get BA of the desired class in just 1 day fuss with it.
  22. UAZ Patriot
    UAZ Patriot 22 September 2012 18: 42
    +1
    Here on Lynx about a week ago on "Zvezda" deputy. Serdyukov froze "Lynx, says, does not make its way! Other cars make their way, but no Lynx!" Plya, I still laugh no mage stop !!! laughing laughing laughing what did he mean by other cars? your personal hentvagen shol !! lol Or is he holding the whole country for suckers ?! am
  23. studentmati
    studentmati 22 September 2012 21: 01
    +1
    Save the Italian car industry, bring Russia down! Nothing else comes to mind about Lynx.

  24. studentmati
    studentmati 22 September 2012 22: 20
    0
    Initially, it is not clear why the "Teplotekhnika" Solomonova, and not "Makeev", was engaged in the sea "Bulava"? Ambitions of politicians?
    1. mind1954
      mind1954 23 September 2012 00: 58
      -2
      For me, this has always been a mystery, but I think that
      politicians’s ambitions have nothing to do with it! After what I found out
      how frenzied we are sawing the submarines with US money,
      nothing surprised me anymore!
      1. with
        with 23 September 2012 01: 11
        +1
        Quote: mind1954
        After what I found out
        how frenzied we are sawing the submarines with US money,
        nothing surprised me anymore!

        As I understand it, do you have an interesting line of engineering on this subject?
        Put your ingenious solutions to this problem on the site and you look, you will become a leading engineer, for starters at the Nerpa shipyard, is it suitable ???)))
  25. PiP
    PiP 22 September 2012 22: 55
    +1
    I read the article, and the impression was that I read a humorous story by Zhvanetsky. "It is better to remain silent and seem like a fool than to speak up and leave no doubts about this" (C) M. Zhvanetsky
    1. mind1954
      mind1954 23 September 2012 01: 13
      -1
      Simply, this is another illustration of the fact that they absolutely
      don't give a damn about our opinion !!! And so everywhere and in everything!

      You send to some power authority where they themselves take you
      urge you to contact, a message with questions and suggestions.
      You get envelopes with answers, not just one, but several!
      But nobody is going to enter into a dialogue with you.

      These envelopes are filled with lists of regulations and laws,
      which they took for themselves to untie their hands!
      And they don’t give a damn about your opinion!
      They had to react, they reacted!

      So Taburetkin! He was obliged to make messages. He did !
      But for that, it’s like and understandable to someone, he absolutely NOSCHATH !!!