“Lenin is an actor”, “hypotenuse is a plant”: the problem of decreasing the quality of knowledge is hard to miss

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When security issues are touched upon, the main emphasis is placed on combat training, equipping the army with highly effective weapons. Tanks, missiles, ships and aviation - this, of course, is a significant contribution to the security of the country, but what about the heads? Who will manage this, who will be able to analyze the situation in order to give a competent and successful order?

The situation has come to a paradox, when more and more of our citizens can boast of higher education, or even two or three, but at the same time, the number of university diplomas is definitely not directly proportional to the quality of knowledge, the presence of professional skills and abilities.



Adds its negative and the so-called "remote". This option is increasingly referred to as: "Distance learning is a process in which the teacher pretends to teach something, and students and students pretend to learn something." It is one thing when the distance format allows you to receive knowledge from different parts of the world, when methods for the effectiveness of such a learning process have been developed. It’s a completely different matter when behind the screen of “remote control” lies “it’s necessary, it’s necessary”, when the monitor turns not into a tool for transmitting useful data, but separates the teacher and the student, separates the students from each other, turning them into a selfish mass.

The result of the reforms that have recently been carried out in education and which have tried to put Russian education on Western tracks is a sharply reduced level of knowledge quality. Polls of schoolchildren and students on the streets show that an increasing number of young people do not know elementary things and do not reflect on this in any way. There are pearls about "America - the capital of the USA", about "Lenin - a Soviet film actor" that "the hypotenuse is probably some kind of plant", about "Nikolai - the father of Alexander Sergeevich Pushkin".

About the problem of the decline in the level of education, which is hard not to notice - on the YouTube channel of Alexei Pushkov:

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  1. +31
    28 January 2022 08: 05
    We live in a world of props, where hypocrisy and lies are elevated to the rank of the ability to live, where screams in talk shows are the truth, where residents living in Russia are considered foreign agents, and real estate dealers and kids over the hill are "patriots" (((((
    1. +4
      28 January 2022 08: 24
      Quote: ancestors from the Don
      We live in a world of props where hypocrisy and lies are elevated to the rank ability to live

      Where "lie" is a masculine noun, and hypocrisy, coupled with it, is neuter...
      At the Georgian school.
      Teacher: "Remember, children, a plate and a fork are written without a soft sign,
      and salt and beans with a soft sign! Remember this children, for it is not possible to understand this
      possibly!!!"

      Where there is no difference between mushrooms and cucumbers:
    2. +25
      28 January 2022 08: 26
      My wife, when she was still working at school, said that skipping classes had become commonplace - the children simply did not want to study. When asked why they don’t go to classes, the standard answer was: Can we read and count? We know how. And now you don't need more. Inserting windows, driving and delivering "Yandex Food" or "Delivery Club" - for this you do not need to know the integrals. be created? Yes
      1. +39
        28 January 2022 08: 44
        Children never wanted to study, but the system forced them, if you can’t, we will teach, if you don’t want to, we will! And it was right!!!!
        1. +22
          28 January 2022 09: 07
          Quote: 75Sergey
          Children never wanted to study, but the system forced them, if you can’t, we will teach, if you don’t want to, we will! And it was right!!!!

          Children aged three to eight years are simply imprisoned by nature for learning. And you can argue with me as much as you like, because it is at this age that the human personality begins to form. True, if he receives replicas with inserts of profanity to his questions, then the direction of the path of knowing the world can turn onto an unpredictable road.
          The Soviet education system stimulated the thirst for knowledge. In addition, there was no discrimination of students on the property qualification. And the student himself saw what and how can be achieved through hard work and study.
          In the USSR, thieves were not awarded the title of Hero of Labor. And the astronauts did not take with an empty head. "People with reduced social responsibility" of different levels and purposes were not included in the higher spheres...
          Today we see a new meaning of life - you need to get into the stream, find a good sponsor ... And, most importantly, you don’t need to be complex ...
          1. +4
            28 January 2022 15: 23
            Quote: yuriy55
            Children aged from three up to eight years are simply imprisoned by nature for training.

            ===
            ) the opinion of the wife of the teacher-educator: it is, education in kindergartens works (still works), continues to work somehow in the primary grades, and then descending, with exceptions of course.
          2. -1
            1 February 2022 18: 10
            No need to write off the system. You yourself said that parents play the main role in the period of personality formation.
        2. +5
          28 January 2022 19: 17
          Quote: 75Sergey
          Children never wanted to learn...

          You are absolutely right. Children want to walk and play. And that's okay.

          Quote: 75Sergey
          ... the system forced, if you can't, we'll teach you, if you don't want to, we'll force you!

          "If you can't, we'll teach you" - yes, it was so. I remember very well how excellent and good students were forced to work with those who were lagging behind. And seriously supervised these classes. As the teacher asked the same question: "Well, now everyone understands?". There were thematic circles after lessons. I had a hard time with physics labs. I had to go to the circle for a while, and off we went. He did not become a physicist, but he was able to explain the school curriculum to his children. And so it was everywhere.
          The children are the same. But the learning environment has changed drastically. Mugs have sunk into oblivion. There are no multiple explanations, because the program does not allow such excesses, time, sir. Plus, huge layers of information, boring, in general, and not awakening to the desire for knowledge, literature, doing homework alone (parents and grandparents on eternal earnings). A modern child simply needs parents at home (experienced in the subject) or tutors (on a permanent basis) for successful study. No other way. If there are no opportunities for either one or the other, then this is almost a sentence ...
          1. 0
            30 January 2022 19: 27
            I remember very well how excellent and good students were forced to work with those who were lagging behind.

            It was business. The dumbest thing I remember in school. One of my charges is a cleaner, what good was my mentoring. Thank God, as he grew up a little, somewhere from the 5th or 6th grade he categorically refused.
            By the way, in the 10th, I studied externally for two semesters, the teachers were strong only in humanitarian subjects, and I was going to technical. He himself studied both according to the program, and additionally according to textbooks for preparatory departments.
            1. 0
              30 January 2022 22: 06
              Quote: mister-red
              It was business. The dumbest thing I remember in school. One of my charges is a cleaner...

              Ambiguous, of course, action. But, whatever one may say, they got some experience, felt responsible, learned to "teach", became more mature, or something. Indeed, there was little sense in the wards, but, you see, purely psychologically, the reception is not bad ...
              1. +2
                31 January 2022 11: 43
                Quote: Doccor18
                Quote: mister-red
                It was business. The dumbest thing I remember in school. One of my charges is a cleaner...

                Ambiguous, of course, action. But, whatever one may say, they got some experience, felt responsible, learned to "teach", became more mature, or something. Indeed, there was little sense in the wards, but, you see, purely psychologically, the reception is not bad ...

                I agree, but with a reservation - on some separate subjects. That is, for example, humanitarian subjects are good and mathematics, physics, etc., are bad. If there is a desire and effort to catch up, why not help.
                A lazy loser who wants nothing cannot be helped in any way.
                1. 0
                  31 January 2022 12: 30
                  Quote: mister-red
                  A lazy loser who wants nothing cannot be helped in any way.

                  That's for sure. A lazy person cannot be helped, regardless of age.
      2. 0
        29 January 2022 12: 28
        at school she said that skipping classes has become commonplace - children simply do not want to study. When asked why they don’t go to classes, the standard answer was: Can we read and count? We know how. And now you don't need more. Inserting windows, driving and delivering "Yandex Food" or "Delivery Club" - for this you do not need to know the integrals.


        So it should be, who wants to work in Yandex Taxi (and someone needs to do this), why do they need integrals and vice versa, who wants to be an engineer / scientist teaches them. In Russia, there are both.
        1. 0
          30 January 2022 19: 34
          So it should be, who wants to work in Yandex Taxi (and someone needs to do this), why do they need integrals and vice versa, who wants to be an engineer / scientist teaches them. In Russia, there are both.

          Even when I was at school, I thought that vocational school should not be after the 8th, but somewhere after the 6th grade. And a very simplified program. For many, 5 classes of education is enough, they didn’t pull any more anyway. We have two in the 8th read by syllables.
  2. +18
    28 January 2022 08: 08
    They need illiterate, assenting and executive people. People who know how to think are of no use to them .. Society should turn into a herd .. There is no need to really manage the herd .. A goat is needed enough to lead this herd to the knife, the rest will depend on the quality of the metal of the knife. .
    1. +6
      28 January 2022 08: 17
      Quote: lonely
      They want the illiterate

      They don't hide. But there are patriots in the education system as well.
      1. +14
        28 January 2022 08: 28
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        But there are patriots in the education system as well.

        Of course, there are people who are not indifferent to what is happening with education. But it is difficult to fight the system one by one.
        1. -3
          28 January 2022 08: 42
          Quote: lonely
          Of course, there are people who are not indifferent to what is happening with education. But it is difficult to fight the system one by one.

          And do not say!
          There are, of course, people who are not indifferent to what is happening with education. But it is difficult to fight the system one by one.
          Great mighty Russian language!
          1. +8
            28 January 2022 08: 48
            Quote: yuriy55
            There are, of course, people who are not indifferent to what is happening with education.

            For a person who did not study in Russian, a very good result .. You better check what mistakes are made by those who consider themselves Russians and tear their hair on their chests with patriotic slogans hi
            1. -2
              28 January 2022 08: 52
              Quote: lonely
              You better check what mistakes are made by those who consider themselves Russians and tear their hair on their chests with patriotic slogans

              Yes, what kind of Russians are they, if they cannot speak Russian? I've seen enough of these children of HMS-EBN education ...
              I'm just corrosive to the knowledge of the infinitive ...
              hi
              1. +7
                28 January 2022 09: 07
                You take a look at the news on the central media. They do not have a city park, but a city park, not a weekend, but a weekend. You can go on for a long time. But how much pathos the urya-hamsters had about the amendments to the Constitution. Even Bezrukov got stuffed.
                And where is it, the real protection of the language?
                1. +7
                  28 January 2022 14: 47
                  For many years, it has been disgusting to watch many TV shows on any topic. It seems like Russian people use anglicisms instead of Russian words. Well, I understand the "medic" Malysheva, she lives more in the USA, in Russia she only earns money, but people of culture, artists .... Just walk through the streets and look at the names of shops, shopping centers, firms. Pick up a bag of buckwheat - where is it written in Russian in small letters?
          2. +1
            28 January 2022 09: 06
            Quote: yuriy55
            There are, of course, people who are not indifferent to what is happening with education. But it is difficult to fight the system one by one.

            So after all, the program "Let's save the children - let's save Russia" was developed! And there were very interesting teachers and innovators involved. True, all this was supervised by S. Mironov. Maybe that's why she was not given a move?
            1. +4
              28 January 2022 11: 17
              It is unlikely that they did not give it because of Mironov .. what is he? from the same cohort .. no need, it means the powers that be just ..
    2. +7
      28 January 2022 11: 56
      They concluded that the herd is easier to manage: a shepherd, a shepherd, a couple of good dogs ..
    3. +2
      29 January 2022 12: 09
      They need illiterate, assenting and executive people. People who know how to think are of no use to them ..

      It depends little on the school, the general condemnation and approval was in the USSR and in 80 educated people filled Kashpirovsky's sessions with stadiums.
      1. 0
        29 January 2022 12: 15
        Quote: ViacheslavS
        It depends little on the school, the general condemnation and approval was in the USSR and in 80 educated people filled Kashpirovsky's sessions with stadiums.

        I won’t argue .. but before the hypotenuse was not looked for in botany, and almost everyone knew that this is the largest side of a right triangle. .and now those who know these units out of a hundred
        1. +1
          29 January 2022 12: 22
          I won’t argue .. but before the hypotenuse was not looked for in botany, and almost everyone knew that this is the largest side of a right triangle. .and now those who know these units out of a hundred


          Perhaps what has changed in the end? Thinking most reading people "exchanged" the USSR for chewing gum and jeans.
          1. +1
            29 January 2022 12: 28
            Quote: ViacheslavS
            Thinking most reading people "exchanged" the USSR for chewing gum and jeans.

            Do you think that if the most readers did this, these crowds of ignoramuses are capable of something better?
            1. +1
              29 January 2022 12: 30
              I think it's loosely related.
  3. +9
    28 January 2022 08: 10
    um... comrade Pushkov, the "edinoros", was someone in culture there... why did he care about the deeds of his party? were you blind before? such "smart" ones, in the Duma, and adopt anti-people laws.
    1. +1
      28 January 2022 08: 25
      Pushkov, Solovyov are literate guys, unlike the victims of the Unified State Examination, and they will outdo even hardened opponents in a verbal duel. smile
      You have to study all your life, a person who is not capable of analysis and introspection is like a car driving ahead without seeing the road.
      1. lot
        +1
        28 January 2022 10: 29
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        even lived through opponents.

        that's for sure: roads without commas are a direct path to introspection.
        1. 0
          28 January 2022 10: 38
          I'm still just learning dear forumchanin. smile
          Commas are my weakness... always happy when someone points out my shortcomings... there is something to work on. hi
          1. lot
            +1
            28 January 2022 10: 47
            say hello to hardened teachers!
  4. +2
    28 January 2022 08: 40
    The result of the reforms that have recently been carried out in education and which have tried to put Russian education on Western tracks is a sharply reduced level of knowledge quality.
    .
    "The little son came to his father
    And the baby asked
    Dad "What is good, what is bad???"

    This is to the fact that you hope for "God", but don't make a mistake yourself !!!
    If we allow ourselves to grow .... generation, descendants, memoryless, soulless, then all the negative things will fall upon us!
    1. +2
      28 January 2022 09: 07
      Quote: rocket757
      If we allow ourselves to grow .... generation, descendants, memoryless, soulless, then all the negative things will fall upon us!

      school and state policy have nothing to do with it? it's all of us, with our own hands ... all the dirt that pours from each iron, we knead and spill it?
      1. 0
        28 January 2022 09: 43
        There are questions, you need to look for answers!
        The state is always IN THE POINT! But the state is not only them, it is also all of us!!! They will be divided into them and us, it is not right, it should be all together and it is necessary to achieve that it would be so.
        At the expense of the irons from which it pours ... it will not be possible to completely avoid this, so it is necessary to prepare the little man precisely on the issue that the baby asked her father, parents about! This business, now, cannot be trusted to anyone, ONLY YOURSELF!
        Let's just say that in our village this is normal ... there are covers, but there are many fewer of them than normal children.
        So it has always been, it is.
        In general, there are still a lot of things to do, and if you take the WHOLE WORLD, everything will be within the normal range.
  5. lot
    +6
    28 January 2022 08: 45
    Well, since I post links from the pipe, then I; mathematician Savvateev about education:
  6. +12
    28 January 2022 08: 53
    No one has done so much for the collapse of the Russian education system as the Russian Ministry of Education itself.
    1. +9
      28 January 2022 08: 59
      It is puzzling why no one at the top recognized the problem, and why no one was imprisoned.
      And in healthcare, by the way, the problems are no better. hi
      1. 0
        28 January 2022 10: 08
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        It is puzzling why no one at the top recognized the problem, and why no one was imprisoned.
        And in healthcare, by the way, the problems are no better.. hi

        So yes. Why is this happening, I wrote a little lower hi
    2. +4
      28 January 2022 09: 10
      Quote: Nyrobsky
      No one has done so much for the collapse of the Russian education system as the Russian Ministry of Education itself.

      Do they watch YouTube at the ministry? I once looked at how the girl posted her visit to the Colosseum, I thought that I would get a heart attack. "Gladiolus fought here in the arena!"
      1. +3
        28 January 2022 09: 23
        Gladiolus got its name from the Roman sword "gladius". For characteristic leaves.
        1. -2
          28 January 2022 10: 55
          Quote: Free Wind
          Gladiolus got its name from the Roman sword "gladius". For characteristic leaves.

          Right! But the gladiators fought! )))
          1. +3
            28 January 2022 12: 09
            Right! But the gladiators fought! )))
            gladiator - "sword-bearer", from "sword" - "gladius", just right? But "gladioli fought in the arena!" laughing
    3. +4
      28 January 2022 09: 30
      Quote: Nyrobsky
      No one has done so much for the collapse of the Russian education system as the Russian Ministry of Education itself.

      no one has done so much for the collapse of the Russian medical care system as the very ... too lazy to write further ...
      1. +3
        28 January 2022 10: 04
        Quote: Aerodrome
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        No one has done so much for the collapse of the Russian education system as the Russian Ministry of Education itself.

        no one has done so much for the collapse of the Russian medical care system as the very ... too lazy to write further ...

        The fact is that Pushkov, as a senator, only stated what is already obvious to everyone, without naming the perpetrators and without proposing specific measures to correct the situation in the education system and in general in the education of young people. It turns out that our senators are extras, and the Federation Council is a place where political pensioners (former governors and ministers) can "harmlessly and uselessly" spend their lives on state security.
        Well, then yes:
        - no one has done so much for the collapse of the medical care system ...
        - no one has done so much for the collapse of the nature protection system as the Ministry of Natural Resources
        - Etc.
        1. +1
          28 January 2022 10: 19
          "Nyrobsky" ... I absolutely agree with you.
        2. -1
          28 January 2022 13: 56
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          etc.

          Yes, and this allows us to judge that this is a targeted program to destroy the country. They say one thing, but the reality is something else.
          Which again allows us to judge that enemies are in power today. hi
        3. +1
          1 February 2022 13: 18
          Not only "harmless and useless", but also carefree and comfortable.
          1. +1
            1 February 2022 14: 14
            Quote: V is for B
            Not only "harmless and useless", but also carefree and comfortable.

            So yes. To sit out your pants for 450 thousand rubles a month and at the same time not answer for anything is quite a comfortable "labor" duty.
  7. +11
    28 January 2022 09: 00
    Let's do it this way, the current education is a system, a policy and a vector of the direction of our power, because. smart people, this is a threat to the carefree life of a circle of people, tk. if someone begins to count, then questions will arise that can be asked and answered.
    1. +5
      28 January 2022 09: 11
      Quote: 75Sergey
      because smart people, this is a threat to the carefree life of a circle of people, tk. if someone begins to count, then questions will arise that can be asked and answered.

      That's right .. Why do they need people who can figure out their machinations and interfere with the robbery. .
      ps In all countries of the former USSR, education is in a deplorable state .. Everywhere is the same ..
    2. 0
      31 January 2022 18: 08
      Whether smart or not, each person decides for himself and no one blocks access to educational information.
      1. -1
        31 January 2022 18: 55
        Ask....
  8. +5
    28 January 2022 09: 15
    The remote has absolutely nothing to do with what is happening. The question is motivation. To gain serious knowledge, you need to work very hard. What for? We don't have smart people. Intellect and knowledge are absolutely not needed in any active ladder of selection.
    If you were born wrong, then only cunning, meanness, cruelty and treachery will help you break through in life. And more ruthlessness. You need a crust, for sure. Helps. And knowledge is not needed at all, completely and absolutely! Our officials are stupid and illiterate, despite diplomas from prestigious universities. For whom is this news? I see that they don’t) But do oak heads prevent them from having millions and billions, according to the ranking table? Hehe ... Here the stigma "very smart" gets in the way, yes.
    The fight against remote control is just the level of understanding of our bureaucracy, our victorious class. Right next to the plinth, yeah ...
  9. +3
    28 January 2022 09: 31
    If you come to the theater and ask the question why the uncoupler is needed in the APS mechanism, they will not answer there either. At school
    and the institution of knowledge is received only by those who themselves want it. It is impossible to force knowledge. For a modern child, that Lenin, that Ivan 3 is something far away. Everything depends on the family.
    1. +4
      28 January 2022 10: 57
      Quote: mongol9999
      For a modern child, that Lenin, that Ivan 3 is something far away. Everything depends on the family.

      Not only! Much depends on the teacher. How interesting, lively his lesson will be, so the children will be interested in this subject.
      1. +1
        28 January 2022 13: 11
        Quote: Egoza
        Quote: mongol9999
        For a modern child, that Lenin, that Ivan 3 is something far away. Everything depends on the family.

        Not only! Much depends on the teacher. How interesting, lively his lesson will be, so the children will be interested in this subject.

        Do not count the destinies broken by these wild ideas) Nevertheless, there are millions of people around who sincerely believe in a teacher-clown-entertainer who will solve everything.
        Gaining knowledge is DIFFICULT. And it should be so, because knowledge changes a person. They do not make it better (it has never been and never will be), namely, they change it. Moreover, the main progress comes not from the knowledge itself as such, but from the process of obtaining knowledge.
        In order to succeed, a person must be persistent, bring things to the end, not give up, be able to endure difficulties, boredom, in a word, must learn to overcome himself. And how will the clown-entertainer, whose lessons are captivating, help the formation of these most important qualities? No way. Generally. Sense from him was like a goat's milk ...
        It must be difficult for a child to develop. If knowledge is easily given, absolutely no one needs it, and first of all the child. Knowledge is now easier to get. They are not a value. A value is a trained person who is able to work with knowledge, turning it into real things. And a goofball standing on its head, grimacing at a lesson for the amusement of the kids, is not an assistant at all ...
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  10. +12
    28 January 2022 09: 34
    The Ministry of Education has been fighting the Soviet education system for 30 years. The Unified State Examination and other systems for recording and controlling knowledge have led to the fact that children have stopped thinking. Teachers, who in the USSR were one of the most highly paid and respected professions, have been "lowered" to the level of semi-poverty. And the so-called. "Bologna" system of higher education! Instead of engineers, they began to produce "lapdogs" in the form of bachelors, most of whom do not know anything and, most importantly, do not know how to engage in self-education and self-improvement of their own knowledge and qualifications.
    The result - from the most reading country in the world, the Russian Federation has slid down to the level of "bast shoes".
    1. -5
      28 January 2022 10: 19
      Quote: Amateur
      Teachers, who in the USSR were one of the highest paid and respected professions, were "lowered" to the level of semi-poverty

      120 rubles from a teacher in the USSR, don't you at least SOVIET Watch films about teachers, or something ..
      Even there it says that there is a categorical shortage of teachers and men do not go to schools - apparently from "highly paid and respected", yeah ....
      There were usually 3 male teachers at school - a fizruk (from former splrtsmen), an NVPshnik (from the military with a pension) and a Trudovik (who is nowhere else).
      Less only cleaners and nurses received teachers ....
      1. +5
        28 January 2022 11: 26
        You have seen enough of any democratic films. And my mother, 3 aunts and one wife worked as teachers in the USSR. 105 rubles was the salary of a teacher without experience at the rate of 18 teaching hours (one lesson 45 minutes) per week, i.e. 3 times a week for 6 lessons. Therefore, everyone worked for 1.5 stakes (i.e. 105+52=157). Plus 10 rubles for checking notebooks and 10 rubles. for excellent leadership. Starting from the 5th year of experience, there were progressive allowances (for experience). Well, a vacation of 48 working days (engineer 24, worker 18). So no one received less than 200 rubles. Well, for the men. At the school where I studied as men, there were 2 physicists and 1 mathematician.
        1. -4
          28 January 2022 13: 39
          Quote: Amateur
          You have seen enough of any democratic films.

          Yes Yes
          Quote: your1970
          at least SOVIET Movies
          I didn’t know for a long time that the “Big Change” is democratic ... you still call it liberal ....

          Quote: Amateur
          mother, 3 aunts and one wife worked as teachers in the USSR.

          You yourself confirm my words that 99% of the teachers in Soviet schools were women. Single 2 physicists and mathematicians - absolutely did not do the weather, single nerds ...
          The formula "you won't study, you'll go to the ped!" invented in the 1970s.
          When I entered in 1987 in Moscow in Gubkin (kerosene) the competition was 4,2, in engineers of water transport 3, 6, and in Ped - 0,8 ... just submit the documents ...
          Come on, under the USSR they wrote a lot about the lack of teachers
          You yourself confirm this with links to 1,5 rates - if there were a set of teachers, there would be no extra rates in theory
          1. +1
            28 January 2022 14: 10
            Big change" -

            Why not "We'll Live Till Monday"? Because it's not a NIGHT SCHOOL comedy. And where did your thesis that
            less teachers were received only by cleaners and nurses ...

            ps We had another man at school. Director, historian.
            1. -3
              28 January 2022 16: 07
              Quote: Amateur

              Why not "We'll Live Till Monday"?

              Any SOVIET film about school, any - women, women, women ...

              Quote: Amateur
              . And where did your thesis that

              Absolutely nowhere to go - it would be 200 rubles - the schools would be full of men. And so ... somewhere there was a set and there were no half-time jobs, somewhere like a mother-in-law in the village for a teacher 3-4-5-6 subjects
              Quote: Amateur
              man. Director,
              - sinful, forgot about the directors.
              It was like that, they were found in nature ... in our area, in my opinion, there were 5 pieces.
              1. -1
                3 February 2022 13: 19
                if it were 200 rubles, the schools would be full of men.

                And where would you get them for 300 rubles? The disproportion of men and women due to the Second World War, even by the 80s, remained significant compared to the pre-war period. In a situation where by the age of 60 there are 18,5 million fewer men than women, sailors, miners, etc. it was necessary to become women, and men to become teachers? A male teacher at a school before the war is not at all uncommon. Although even then, since the growth rate of heavy industry was a multiple of the growth rate of the population, this very heavy industry vacuumed the male population. That's the whole clue. And the fact that in the village there are 3-4-5-6 subjects for teachers ... this is for you to Olgovich and his 60% of the "destroyed" rural settlements - discuss together how to combine a "full-fledged" school and villages with 20 children.
                1. 0
                  3 February 2022 15: 09
                  Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                  . And the fact that in the village there are 3-4-5-6 subjects for teachers ... this is for you to Olgovich and his 60% of the "destroyed" rural settlements -

                  Not now - and in the 1970s - early 1980s ... my aunt worked out the assignments after the institute and ran away at a gallop from there
                  1. 0
                    3 February 2022 15: 13
                    I didn't write about it either.
    2. +2
      28 January 2022 10: 21
      Quote: Amateur
      The result - from the most reading country in the world, the Russian Federation has slid down to the level of "bast shoes".

      what was required ... not?
      1. +4
        28 January 2022 11: 29
        Sadly YES
  11. +6
    28 January 2022 09: 46
    Almost a joke. The store asked the seller to submit a pair of cutting wheels for the "Bulgarian". His question put me in a stupor, I did not know what to answer: "How much is a pair? Two or three?".
    1. +2
      28 January 2022 10: 26
      Quote: Waterways 672
      Almost a joke. The store asked the seller to submit a pair of cutting wheels for the "Bulgarian". His question put me in a stupor, I did not know what to answer: "How much is a pair? Two or three?".

      since it was "he" ... he had to find out: "two" or "three" ...))) he bought the "bat" like that .. for "Shurik", he specified: for baseball? i sobbed....
    2. +4
      28 January 2022 10: 32
      Not such a joke.
      PAIR
      Feminine
      1.
      Two identical objects that are used together and form a whole.
      "P. oars"
      2.
      SPACE
      Two things. simple..
      "P. apples"
      3.
      Men's suit (trousers and jacket or frock coat, tailcoat).
      "Sew a New Pair"
      4.
      Harness for two horses.
      "Ride on a couple"
      5.
      Two persons who are, acting together, united by something. common.
      "walk in pairs"
      6.
      SPACE
      About a small amount of something; somewhat simple..
      "Call for a few words to talk a little"

      You spoke with the vernacular form 2, and the seller knows that there is also a vernacular form 6.
      The situation clearly shows the advantages of a literary language with fixed norms over colloquial forms of the language. However, it also contains homonyms and polysemantic words.
      hi
    3. +5
      28 January 2022 10: 41
      Quote: Waterways 672
      Almost a joke. The store asked the seller to submit a pair of cutting wheels for the "Bulgarian". His question put me in a stupor, I did not know what to answer: "How much is a pair? Two or three?".

      Not surprising. Here I saw a video where a serviceman is asked what time it is, and he, looking at the clock with hands hanging opposite, does not understand at all what time they show. On the electronic scoreboard, he understands, but with the arrows - no. request
      1. 0
        28 January 2022 13: 29
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        Quote: Waterways 672
        Almost a joke. The store asked the seller to submit a pair of cutting wheels for the "Bulgarian". His question put me in a stupor, I did not know what to answer: "How much is a pair? Two or three?".

        Not surprising. Here I saw a video where a serviceman is asked what time it is, and he, looking at the clock with hands hanging opposite, does not understand at all what time they show. On the electronic scoreboard, he understands, but with the arrows - no. request

        duck there is easy .. for example .. three divided by eighteen ...
  12. +4
    28 January 2022 10: 14
    Let's not blame the youth of today. start with yourself. Who writes textbooks? Ivlev? Mongenstreng? No . and who then, that it is disgusting to read. Okay now
    1. +1
      28 January 2022 10: 26
      Quote: Free Wind
      Let's not blame the youth of today. start with yourself. Who writes textbooks? Ivlev? Mongenstreng? No . and who then, that it is disgusting to read. Okay now

      similar and write ...
      1. +1
        28 January 2022 11: 05
        Quote: Aerodrome
        Quote: Free Wind
        Let's not blame the youth of today. start with yourself. Who writes textbooks? Ivlev? Mongenstreng? No . and who then, that it is disgusting to read. Okay now

        similar and write ...

        At the age of 60-70 years??? The most snotty author of textbooks is at least 40 years old ....
        1. -2
          28 January 2022 13: 32
          Quote: your1970
          Quote: Aerodrome
          Quote: Free Wind
          Let's not blame the youth of today. start with yourself. Who writes textbooks? Ivlev? Mongenstreng? No . and who then, that it is disgusting to read. Okay now

          similar and write ...

          At the age of 60-70 years??? The most snotty author of textbooks is at least 40 years old ....

          um .. they also write previously hatched ... what to do ..
  13. +8
    28 January 2022 10: 25
    I am most outraged by the fact that Pushkov and his other partners, in the EP party, did everything for this ignorance! And now they are stating the facts. And then what? Did you understand that people are getting dumber, what needs to be done and who will do it? And when they put buckets on the heads of teachers, it was not clear then!
    Shame and contempt for Putin !!!
    1. -2
      28 January 2022 11: 13
      Quote: steel maker
      And when they put buckets on the heads of teachers, it was not clear then!

      Our mathematician had a meter pointer. With this pointer, she hit on the heads of those who cheated on the control ones ... the pointers broke regularly and we sharpened a new one for her at work ...
      about 40 (!!!) years have passed - I remember mathematics and checked my son's homework up to grade 8.
      Are you ready to have your child hit on the head with a pointer????! And so that the pointer broke????
      You are the first to come to school - "the teacher beats my child" ...

      Putin is also to blame for this - "my child is the best - and everything around including teachers !!!" ?????
      1. -2
        28 January 2022 11: 50
        I myself suggested this to teachers. Only my son understands my words, I explain intelligibly. Therefore, now, under a contract, he works in another country. And if you acted like a teacher - it doesn’t reach through your head, it comes through your hands, or according to another principle, then you wouldn’t have to check your son’s homework up to grade 8. Although what am I talking about - what a pop, such is the arrival!
        1. -1
          28 January 2022 13: 42
          Quote: steel maker
          then you wouldn’t have to check your son’s homework until grade 8

          This was not required - he completely understands himself. The heart required control - he is a little lazy, there is such a sin ...
      2. -1
        28 January 2022 13: 33
        Quote: your1970
        I remember mathematics and checked my son's homework until grade 8.

        and you are a genius...or I don't believe...
        1. -1
          28 January 2022 15: 50
          It's a business....
          Lyuba would have pulled you over once - you would have remembered longer .. Moreover, she beat everyone, both boys and girls - but for the cause ....
  14. +6
    28 January 2022 10: 31
    Pashkov's speech is a mockery and complete profanity. About the decline of education "suffers" one of those whose efforts this very education is collapsing. The voice of one of the school teachers crying in the desert, who has neither power nor influence, is understandable. And here? Whole YouTube video! According to the principle "crowed, but there at least do not dawn." Conveniently. But it's disgusting to watch.
  15. +1
    28 January 2022 10: 32
    In history textbooks under the USSR. Stalin's name was pronounced 3 times in all textbooks from grades 5 to 10. Beria never. The fact that Dzhugashvili is the surname of Stalin was not written in any textbook. I can tell from my studies. Harry Potter taught my son to read. Books about him. I read by the fifth grade in syllables, but thanks to these books, it gradually went off. And learning became easy.
    1. +1
      28 January 2022 10: 59
      Quote: Free Wind
      Harry Potter taught my son to read. Books about him. I read by the fifth grade in syllables, but thanks to these books, it gradually went off. And learning became easy.

      strategy however ... doubtful of course, but it worked. I'll try it on my grandchildren..
    2. +1
      28 January 2022 12: 12
      My fourth-grader granddaughter, at the insistence of her parents, has been reading Harry Potter for the third year, she has reached the 6th volume. I was categorically against this book - it will discourage the desire to read in any child. And so it happened. Now I'm slipping light fiction on her, but the aversion to the printed word is already instilled. Yes - at school one of two excellent students in the class. But he doesn't want to read fiction.
      1. 0
        28 January 2022 13: 16
        well... the attempt failed..
      2. -1
        28 January 2022 14: 45
        My son wanted to read it himself after watching the first two films. And he wanted to know what would happen next. You know that the series came out as the actors grew older. In fact, one film per year. Wait a long time, and find out what will be desirable.
  16. +6
    28 January 2022 10: 56
    I went to school in 1954. And I remembered "Native speech" for the rest of my life. There was not much text there. But there were a lot of photos. And under each inscription. Black and white photograph - "Watermelons in the Kalahari Desert." And the young brain remembered where the homeland of watermelons was. The teacher did not even have to invest such an object. Concise and smart.
    1. +1
      28 January 2022 13: 24
      Quote: nikvic46
      I went to school in 1954.

      fly to beat ... I’m just a kid ... in 1970 I went to school .. I realized that there are “beloved” (not me) there are creatures .. (not me) but there is a physical education teacher ... I pulled myself up like a stoned man .. I realized right now, I was trying to survive. I'm in the "urban" .... I'm in the regional ones .. and for a man with outstretched knees - profit ... by the way, he beat children ... who smoke, really ... and taller than him ...
  17. +1
    28 January 2022 14: 36
    Alexei Konstantinovich Pushkov (born August 10, 1954, Beijing, China) is a Soviet and Russian statesman and public figure. Senator of the Russian Federation - representative of the legislative body of state power of the Perm Territory in the Federation Council of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation, chairman of the temporary commission of the Federation Council on information policy and interaction with the media (since 2016). Member of the State Duma of the VI convocation, member of the United Russia faction, chairman of the State Duma Committee on International Affairs (2011-2016).
    In 2012-2016 he was the head of the Russian delegation to the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe. In January 2014, Pushkov headed the "Group of European Democrats" in PACE, replacing Robert Walter as chairman. In this capacity, in January-April 2014, he was a member of the Presidential Committee - the highest advisory body of PACE
    - Is Mr. Pushkov dissatisfied with his activities as well? Well, let him say about it, about the fact that the valiant "United Russia" has brought the country to all this and is leading further ..
  18. 0
    28 January 2022 15: 25
    it is interesting to read the discussion about education in the majority of completely illiterate people)))
  19. +2
    28 January 2022 16: 44
    Quote: your1970
    Quote: Amateur
    Teachers, who in the USSR were one of the highest paid and respected professions, were "lowered" to the level of semi-poverty

    120 rubles from a teacher in the USSR, don't you at least SOVIET Watch films about teachers, or something ..
    Even there it says that there is a categorical shortage of teachers and men do not go to schools - apparently from "highly paid and respected", yeah ....
    There were usually 3 male teachers at school - a fizruk (from former splrtsmen), an NVPshnik (from the military with a pension) and a Trudovik (who is nowhere else).
    Less only cleaners and nurses received teachers ....

    Physics, mathematics, computer science were often taught by male teachers. In the USSR, being a teacher was not considered shameful or unworthy. And Senator Pushkov, since he is so dissatisfied, should either resign or change everything. He is one of those who keeps his hands at the wheel. You can clearly see where they went...
    1. 0
      28 January 2022 17: 37
      Quote: MauZerR
      Quote: your1970
      Quote: Amateur
      Teachers, who in the USSR were one of the highest paid and respected professions, were "lowered" to the level of semi-poverty

      120 rubles from a teacher in the USSR, don't you at least SOVIET Watch films about teachers, or something ..
      Even there it says that there is a categorical shortage of teachers and men do not go to schools - apparently from "highly paid and respected", yeah ....
      There were usually 3 male teachers at school - a fizruk (from former splrtsmen), an NVPshnik (from the military with a pension) and a Trudovik (who is nowhere else).
      Less only cleaners and nurses received teachers ....

      Physics, mathematics, computer science were often taught by male teachers. In the USSR, being a teacher was not considered shameful or unworthy. And Senator Pushkov, since he is so dissatisfied, should either resign or change everything. He is one of those who keeps his hands at the wheel. You can clearly see where they went...

      to be honest, I don’t know how much our NVPshnik received. in 19 ... the seventies, but he was covered in scars, and they learned from him about zinc coffins from Afghanistan, I remember how quietly they left after the lesson then ... they didn’t yell and didn’t rage. it was a shock.
  20. 0
    29 January 2022 18: 42
    I have read the comments. They didn't surprise me.
    Firstly, it is always easier to blame someone, anyone, than to ask oneself.
    Secondly, basically, daddies write, who are rare "guests" at parent meetings. It is these dads who will now begin to minus. Those, fathers, who in reality are PROPERLY engaged in the upbringing and education of their children, will understand me.

    If parents are concerned about the level of education of the child, they will look for the appropriate educational institution and observe the learning process.
    In the class where my child is studying, there was a situation when the teacher easily gave in to sperrung during the lessons and led conversations not on the topic of classes. The quality issue was resolved fairly quickly.
    In any class, there are capable children and those who find it difficult to study. But motivation plays a big role.
    The example of the class immediately shows both the upbringing and the interest (or weak interest) of the parents.
    The teachers are the same, but the parents are different...

    And on account of the fact that SMART and EDUCATED are NOT needed by the state:
    now companies are fighting for highly educated, smart, intelligent professionals.
    They take them apart, as they say, puppies!
    Well, at least take an interest in the question before writing nonsense!

    There are many projects financed by the state.
    My daughter is now participating in one of the regional projects. In this project, they were collected not by acquaintance, but by results. Everything is organized, from delivery to the educational camp. There are children in whose families there is one PC for the whole family. They are not pushed out, they are supported!
    And what is remarkable: they have a lesson with a teacher - the curator of the group begins with the words:
    "Hello guys!
    Hello, the future of Russia!!!"
  21. -3
    29 January 2022 21: 30
    About the problem of the decline in the level of education, which is hard not to notice - on the YouTube channel of Alexei Pushkov:

    A person who "changes shoes" cannot be trusted at all. For a position at MGIMO, work on TV, and a deputy seat, he changed his views dramatically. Previously, he criticized the government, now its opponents. What is there to talk about .... sad
  22. 0
    30 January 2022 19: 09
    Which Lenin is an actor, he is a musician - a student, etc.
  23. kig
    0
    1 February 2022 04: 28
    Wait, isn't Hypotenuse a name? winked winked ??
  24. 0
    1 February 2022 13: 30
    But there is also a bisector))
  25. 0
    2 February 2022 11: 14
    Quote: Aerodrome
    to be honest, I don’t know how much our NVPshnik received. in 19 ... the seventies, but he was covered in scars, and they learned from him about zinc coffins from Afghanistan, I remember how quietly they left after the lesson then ... they didn’t yell and didn’t rage. it was a shock.
    I had three NVP-shnikov during my school life: an infantry major, a stern man of about 70 years old (he had such a physical form that we boys envied him), then after his death, a young completely tanker from contract soldiers (he worked for a short time), later an intellectual major from aviation, from communication with him the most pleasant impressions remained.