Multi-purpose fighter Su-30CM made the first flight

At the aerodrome of the Irkutsk Aviation Plant, a branch of OJSC Irkut Corporation (part of UAC OJSC), the Su-30SM fighter developed by Sukhoi Design Bureau and intended for the Ministry of Defense of Russia made the first flight.

As stated in a joint press release of the Sukhoi and Irkut companies, the plane was piloted by test pilots of the Sukhoi Design Bureau:

- crew commander - Sergey Kostin, test pilot of 1 class;

- navigator - Pavel Malovechko, honored test navigator of the Russian Federation.

The flight lasted 2 hours and passed without comment.

The Su-30CM multipurpose super-maneuverable fighter is a further development of the Su-30MK family of combat aircraft. Experts of the Sukhoi Design Bureau have adapted the fighter to the requirements of the Russian Air Force in terms of radar systems, radio communications and state identification, an ejection seat and a number of support systems. Also made changes to the composition of weapons.

The contract for the supply of 30 multi-purpose Su-30CM fighter aircraft to the Russian Federation Air Force in the period up to 2015 was signed by the Russian Ministry of Defense and Irkut Corporation in March 2012.

At the signing of the contract, Russian Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov stated that the upcoming entry into the Armed Forces of modern super-maneuverable two-seat Su-30SM fighters will significantly increase the combat power of the Russian Air Force. In addition, the technical capabilities of the aircraft will achieve a higher level of training for pilots, which is especially important in connection with the increase in the volume of military purchases aviation new generation technology.

Comments

[spender]

This is for us and this I’m like in that joke about pills from greed: Come on, come on and more, more ...

[ShturmKGB]

I agree, there are never many good planes ...

[nikoli25]

such news is simply pleasing, if there were more such news

[VAF]

Quote: nikoli25

such news is simply pleasing, if there were more such news

Su-30MK2 Uganda Air Force ......

[nycsson]

Quote: vaf

Su-30MK2 Uganda Air Force ......

Sergey, stop mocking me !!!

[VAF]

Quote: nycsson

stop making fun of me!!!

Yeah ... don't you love the truth ???? It becomes sickeningly ...... and I experienced it on my hump ... all this uryodobrymsovskoy eternal slogan hat! +!

So ... bear with my friend .. endure ... then it will be even more interesting and ... funnier ... remember my words

[spender]

Quote: vaf

Yeah ... don't you love the truth ???? It becomes sickeningly ...... and I experienced it on my hump ... all this uryodobrymsovskoy eternal slogan hat! +! So ... endure my friend .. endure ... then it will be even more interesting and ... funnier ... remember my words

Seryoga, calm down !!! You are not tearing the heart of Uryalka, but patriots !!! For Uryalok you are shpien, they do not perceive the Old, their brains are only "sharpened" for slogans And you stuck a knife for us and with each photo you turn

[Bashkaus]

Tranzhira, are not afraid that the patriots, not knowing the truth, can turn into the same Uryakalok? ((((You have to be not only a patriot, but also a man, so that you can bravely accept realities

[spender]

Quote: Bashkaus

are not afraid that the patriots without knowing the truth may turn into the same Uryakalok? ((((One must be not only a patriot, but also a man, so that he would courageously accept realities

Not in such quantities! Sometimes it’s like a patient needs to feed broth with small doses, otherwise rejection !!!
ATTENTION ALL THE CLONES Crawled !!!! PAY ATTENTION TO THE DATE AND TIME OF REGISTRATION IN THE PROFILE !!!!!!!!! :

[VAF]

Quote: spender

And you stuck a knife for us and with each photo you turn

Okay, persuaded ... I won’t ... no more ... today! But there is good news, the Su-34s leave the factory in Baltimore ... fresh!
Coming soon .... official info ! +!

[expert2008]

Namesake, great news !!! Ato, like that ngedelya was, by and large, mediocre. There is no real analyst on "Kavkaz-2012" yet, there is generally silence about the exercises in Armenia, except that the Old Man made him happy, it seems like we are expecting replenishment in our fleet ... Can you tell anything? What's going to come to us?

[Botanologist]

Great news!
Thank you!

[Sergh]

Quote: vaf

So ... bear with my friend .. endure ... then it will be even more interesting and ... funnier ... remember my

Listen Seryoga, what are you stirring up here, good to get out! You are on the seventh (although doubts), I'm on the sixth dozen, but I can’t beat myself in the chest with my fist, fucking the pioneer leader ...

[Yarbay]

It's like in that joke)))
A lion comes to one of his possessions and see a sad hare in the forest!
He asks, what happened?
The hare answers, Oh, great. When we were little, the wolf was played, it was normal, now he has grown up where he catches me being raped in a tortured form !!
The lion is angry and says, “I'm going to another forest to put things in order, and as soon as he does this to you again, write to me immediately and I will punish him !!”
Six months pass. A lion returns to this forest and sees a hare sitting, and near a lot of paper and pencils !!
He asks, how are there any changes ??))
The hare turns around, but no, everyone is also raped, only the writings have become more)))))))))

[nycsson]

Quote: vaf

So ... bear with my friend .. endure ... then it will be even more interesting and ... funnier ... remember my words

I think so too! Willingly I believe!

[UAZ Patriot]

ha hidden military bases of RUSSIA transfer personnel in case of what, and a big-ass for amers from anywhere in the world where our weapons are! + for the maintenance of such ZERO spending bases! oh-what is my plan for you)

[Rustam]

Sergey, what’s wrong with Uganda ???? on the contrary, it’s good that they take

[VAF]

Quote: Rustam

Sergey, what’s wrong with Uganda ???? on the contrary, it’s good that they take

Rustam, dear, welcome! As a colleague, I’ll tell you, if someone else asked, then “I would just pass by” the question.
I won’t say anything directly. Yes, and you don’t need why. You yourself will understand everything. well, I won’t do the same thing. since I’ve visited N with ixon that .. today I won’t.
So on the topic ..... you need to look at the state of affairs on Ts. Uglova and you will immediately understand everything ........ and we are new to Uganda and for loans ..... here we’ll fuck that Sudan and their divide when doia ... such holes ???
In Dzemgi a little better. But the same ...... soon on the way ...! +!

[nycsson]

Continued:
The first flight of the machine is scheduled for 2017 year, and the FGFA should go to the troops only in 19. At the moment, we are working only on the draft design of the new fighter. Therefore, accurate data on the composition of its equipment, weapons, etc. not yet. And even if they appear, they can very quickly become obsolete. And still try to imagine what will rise into the sky in six years.

Externally, the aircraft will be at least very similar to the already flying T-50. Still, unification obliges, and differences in the “stuffing” are more characteristic of the fifth generation than in appearance.

With the developers of the developers, like, decided. This is the AL-41F1C or "Product 117C." This is an updated version of the AL-41F1 engine, which is designed for installation on the first T-50 and on the serial Su-35С. The engine marked “C” has more thrust from the base on 2 tons and is 14500 kgf, and the overhaul life is increased to 4000 hours, which is four times more than the AL-41Ф1. Thus, we can hope for an increase in thrust-carrying capacity of the aircraft by 10-15% compared with the current version of the T-50.

Avionics is likely to be similar to the one installed on the T-50. However, the variant with the expansion of the capabilities of the equipment with the help of the so-called. "Glass cabin".

Regarding the weapons of FGFA, almost nothing is known, but most likely he will be able to carry the BrahMos RCC, but this is unverified information.

In total, during the program, India plans to build 50 single-seat cars and two hundred doubles with the possibility of using them as training facilities.

[nycsson]

Continued:
While the Indians had failed negotiations with the United States, the Sukhoi Design Bureau was working on its own project of a generation 5 fighter under the PAK FA program. By the time it became clear that no one would sell the finished fighter to India, the Russian designers had already created the T-50 aircraft project. Remembering the old proposal to work together, the Indian side offered to cooperate in the field of creating a fifth-generation fighter. In the autumn of 2007, a joint work agreement was signed. According to him, the Indian side participated only financially, and all design work and construction of finished aircraft were assigned to Russia. But at the end of 2008, the roles in the project were redistributed. Aircraft electronics - avionics, control systems, navigation equipment, etc. - will India deal with Hindustan Aeronautics Limited. The glider of the aircraft, engines and the rest of the equipment "got" of JSC "Sukhoi". The program was named FGFA: Fifth Generation Fight Aircraft - the fifth generation fighter.

Since the FGFA will be developed on the basis of the T-50, the prototype prototype fighter from the 2009 year has been demonstrated to Indian delegations several times. According to one of the aviation officials of India, the first demonstration of the T-50 as a current hit the delegates. Still, the declared characteristics of the aircraft are impressive.

It is planned that T-50 and FGFA will have a greater degree of unification, which will affect the cost of the aircraft. It is noted that in the future, FGFA may become not just a joint Russian-Indian aircraft “for its own use”, but also an export modification of the T-50 for delivery to third countries. The total cost of the program is still estimated at 8-9 billion dollars, although it is not possible to exclude the increase or decrease of this figure.

[nycsson]

Good news! Only 30 pieces are not enough! It will be not enough !!!

[andrei332809]

Quote: nycsson

Only 30 pieces are not enough! It will be not enough !!!

with modern capacities of 15 units per year, this is normal. not Soviet times unfortunately

[nycsson]

Quote: andrei332809

with modern capacities of 15 units per year, this is normal. not Soviet times unfortunately

I'm talking about the total! If you ordered 200, you could think about increasing capacity!

[andrei332809]

Quote: nycsson

one might think about increasing capacity

who thinks? stool? or oligarchs (oligophrenics)?

[commander]

Again 25. Well, what again? Why Stool again? What's wrong again? I do not understand. It seems that contracts are being concluded and new equipment is being supplied to the troops, and reforms are being carried out. Here is a tape.ru wrote that the Shaman "beemdeshnika-4" has already been flooded. What is wrong with you? Under the Ivanov-Grachevs, the Air Force could not even dream of new aircraft. Why are you calling him? He’s actually Anatoly Eduardovich Serdyukov

[Apollo]

commander

He’s actually Anatoly Eduardovich Serdyukov



this is for you from me instead of minus

[Yuri11076]

This Taburetkin damn director or the head of a furniture store, so he was and will remain so ...

[nycsson]

Quote: andrei332809

who thinks? stool? or oligarchs (oligophrenics)?

Yeah! That's for sure! No one will think!

[commander]

That is, Serdyukov has nothing to do with the contract for the supply of Su-30 to the Air Force?

[Apollo]

Quote: military commander

That is, Serdyukov has nothing to do with the contract for the supply of Su-30 to the Air Force?

and this is in addition to my previous post

[nycsson]

Apollo.
About yachts! Take a look!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc0w98s7IcI

[Odessa]

nycsson,

About yachts! Take a look!

Is a golden soul necessary in government?

[spender]

Quote: Odessa

Is a golden soul necessary in government?

I would change the gold to cold, but somehow ...

[Odessa]

spender,

I would change the gold to cold, or something like that.

Well, there is the Vorontsov Palace, and this is the Putin Palace. Why aren’t the kings courtiers? Our Bibi lives more modestly!
And D. Medvedev, in addition to the yacht, has a river ship.
Nixon posted a link

[spender]

Quote: Odessa

Well, there is the Vorontsov Palace, and this is the Putin Palace. Why aren’t the kings courtiers? Our Bibi lives more modestly! And D. Medvedev, in addition to the yacht, has a river ship. Nixon posted a link

From an ulcer Well, you’re just a penguin Echidna ... DAM has a boat with one oar, GDP has everything, Rogozin works on a water jet ski, and we are on the rescue boat, some for logs, some for wood chips, and some with a paddle on the head

[Odessa]

spender,

From an ulcer Well, you're just a penguin Echidna ...

Well, she moved around, well, she snapped, but you didn’t write about Taburetkin. Although it’s clear that the tree doesn’t sink.

[Yarbay]

Quote: Odessa

Well, she moved around, well, she snapped, but you didn’t write about Taburetkin. Although it’s clear that the tree doesn’t sink.

Hi Esther))))) Taburetkin should not be written, but written))))))
Sanya was not seen))) His countrywoman arrived, his brother’s bride turns out to be)))))))

[Odessa]

Yarbay,

Taburetkin do not need to write, but write))))))

Like Robinson Crusoe, notched in a tree?
Romanov is busy today, he turned off at 15.00:XNUMX Jerusalem time.

[Yarbay]

Quote: Odessa

Like Robinson Crusoe, notched in a tree?

It is necessary to ask Sani))) The surname of the bride is rare))))

[Yarbay]

Quote: Odessa

And D. Medvedev, in addition to the yacht, has a river ship.

The funny thing is that they think it’s for them to stay !!)))

[Odessa]

Yarbay,

The funny thing is that they think it’s for them to stay !!)))

Obama is also laughing about it.

[Yarbay]

Quote: Odessa

Obama is also laughing about it.

I think they’ll take their own)))
we have a good saying))
When a lion grows old jackals play with his eggs))))))))
The time will come, they will take away all of them)))

[Odessa]

Yarbay,

I think they’ll take their own)))
we have a good saying))
When a lion grows old jackals play with his eggs))))))))
The time will come, they will take away all of them)))

A controversial issue, with a good lawyer, you can hold a will, and a deed of gift, and written off in scrap, etc.

[Yarbay]

Quote: Odessa

A controversial issue, with a good lawyer, you can hold a will, and a deed of gift, and written off in scrap, etc.

In the CIS, usually the new tsar does not like the old))) Since Khrushchev since)))
Abroad can remain in the homeland will be taken)))

[Pimply]

I once had Livni at breakfast. 8)
There, the joke directly turned out - she gathered Russian journalists, and someone did not find anything smarter than how to put two bottles of absolute. No, the old guard certainly accepted. But Misha Borodkin, who was sitting on my left hand, managed to make this shot.

In principle, a house is nothing special. A small villa of rooms five or six, a small courtyard.

At the prime minister’s residence then (they sat at Olmert’s) - the house is also small. Of course, maybe, but not the palace either.

[Alex 241]

Zhenya 5 points, Modestly, and tastefully, cucumber tomatoes are not enough to fully you are paintings

[Pimply]

Well, they were - only on the table inside the house. And the old guard of Russian-speaking journalists very playfully poured vodka.

In general, usually breakfast with the press - and all sorts of official breakfasts and so on - among Israeli politicians is quite modest. Olmert carefully ate a croissant - with a coupon, from a supermarket, fresh vegetables and fruits, tuna, like a fish

[nycsson]

Quote: Odessa

Is a golden soul necessary in government?

Of course not!

[VAF]

Quote: nycsson

I'm talking about the total!

And about the total number of Indian Su-30 MKI in general ......... I am silent +!

And this ... I don’t even want to comment ...

[commander]

Nothing, but we will have a Su-35. We must not forget about other machines that probable friends do not have - the Su-34, T-50 (which is unknown with India), PAK YES (?), Yak-130 and others. So not everything is so bad!

[commander]

Why do you minus my comment? What am I saying wrong?

[Antipetian]

Probably the fact that PAK YES is still very much in the project, and not even on paper yet

[nycsson]

Quote: military commander

So not everything is so bad!

Worse than ever! Let’s launch new aircraft for export, instead of classifying them and equipping their own air forces!

[Bashkaus]

I always had one hope for this: in KB, new technologies are being developed and brought to mind on new physical principles, and the plane is about to come into being that will bring down all the performance characteristics and capabilities of the machines now available. That’s why ours may not buy it now, like it’s like we don’t have the dough, but we’ll sell it to you, we’ll cut the dough, and we ourselves will prepare in the coffers what the sold units will turn into a pile of rubbish.
Oh those dreams

[Alex 241]

Your words to God’s ears. Until we realize the backlog made in the USSR. But as one gentleman said: we fell for so long, and finally the bottom seemed ...

[Wedmak]

Do you think there is such a backlog? On new physical principles? And then it turns out that our T-50 for averting eyes?
In fact, what principles there may be new. It is the same air for all. As for the new engines, yes. As the experience of F-117 has shown, you can lift the iron into the air, and even fly.

[Alex 241]

You are right, no one canceled the laws of physics, I think, and this is my personal opinion of the T-50, it is a platform for developing new technologies, I would even say for developing a new ideology for a modern aircraft. You can’t upgrade an SU for an infinitely long time, you see, it's logical continuation of the SU-27, a tricky marketing move by business people, see what a wide range we have.

[Wedmak]

I agree that it is impossible to upgrade endlessly, or rather it is not profitable at some point. Yes and not optimal.
When I saw the T-50 for the first time, I was somehow surprised, not only is it "flattened", it also consists of almost one wing. "Chezh will fit in there ..." I thought. However, TWO arms squads were stuck there. What to hang there is a separate question.
And comparing its appearance with the F-22, you come to the conclusion that something both of them tend to a triangle. And then I remember a UFO of just this form ... What the hell is not joking then ... maybe there are already developments?

[Pimply]

The equipment there is to catch up, the range of weapons.

[Yarbay]

Quote: military commander

So not everything is so bad!

With the first shard))))))))

[spender]

Quote: Yarbay

With the first shard))))))))

I am an optimist, and therefore
NOT WITH THE LAST

[with]

Quote: spender

I am an optimist, and therefore
NOT WITH THE LAST

Hats off! Thrushes sing in the forest, They sing for the soul, not for glory.

[spender]

Quote: met

Hats off! Thrushes sing in the forest, They sing for the soul, not for glory.

And sho am I in love with you? (c) "Wedding in Malinovka" And not what the perverts thought Really in the subject

[with]

Quote: spender

And sho am I in love with you? (c) "Wedding in Malinovka"

I got it !!)))

True, today was a crazy day, like a crazy dodder !!

[Odessa]

with,
Is that? A squirrel in a wheel? Or a physical five-minute in production?

[with]

Quote: Odessa

Is that? A squirrel in a wheel? Or a physical five-minute in production?

This is me in the morning, when Omar mixed up with Alibek, and everything from the number of calls of subordinate sleepwalkers and the day went on increasing !!))

[Odessa]

with,
On a turbo engine?

[Yarbay]

Quote: met

Alibek mixed up, and everything from the number of calls to subordinate sleepers and the day went up !!))

You are a good boss)))))) usually until 10 o’clock in the morning the bosses do not tolerate calls from subordinates, unless only if an emergency !!))))
You spoiled your subordinates)))

[Odessa]

spender,

I am an optimist, and therefore

Time is no longer childish, lullaby

[spender]

Quote: Odessa

Time is no longer childish, lullaby

Thank!!!! Is that what I told you? I have a reserve parachute

[Odessa]

spender,

I have a reserve parachute

Someone has already laid out this joke, but nonetheless
An American, a Frenchman, an Arab and a Jew are flying in the plane. The plane lights up, and there are only three parachutes. The American says: "My country is the most democratic in the world, I must be saved!" Grabs one and falls out. The Arab says: "My people are the smartest!" Quickly grabs another and falls out. A Jew holds out a parachute to a Frenchman. He admires, they say, you give me the last parachute, sacrifice yourself, etc. ... "No," - says the Jew, - "Just the smartest jumped with a sleeping bag ...

[Yarbay]

Quote: spender

I am an optimist, and therefore

I remember that my elder brother congratulated me on the first bruise)))))
I hid him as I could))))))
In general, the skin around my eyes is very delicate))))))))

[Odessa]

Yarbay,

I remember that my elder brother congratulated me on the first bruise)))))

And my first bruise in my life, under my eye, was put by my younger sister))))))))
Nevertheless, I am also an optimist

[Apollo]

Quote: Odessa

And my first bruise in my life, under my eye, was put by my younger sister))))))))

Esther to you a big raspect

[spender]

Quote: Apollon

Esther to you a big raspect

Apollo, if you think that now there will be a story about who opened the first embrasure, then in vain ... It’s better to try to score the word porn stories in any search engine
No offense Himself framed

[Odessa]

spender,

Better try in any search engine to hammer the word porn stories

So, what kind of sites you go to. Now I’ll lay out a couple of cows, until the morning you’ll fall asleep

[spender]

Quote: Odessa

So which sites you go to.

I am an old soldier and do not know words of love ... (c) But what for sites when everything is on the phone
Old already, not 16 years old to run for pleasures, just quietly waiting

[with]

Quote: spender

Old already, not 16 years old to run for pleasures, just quietly waiting

And it will come by itself !!))

[Odessa]

with,
And you keep the company.

[with]

Quote: Odessa

met
And you keep the company.

It looks like jealousy !!))
I won’t drink so much vodka !!)))

[spender]

Quote: Odessa

And you keep the company.

Fuck, for the first time I set you minus !!!! It’s good to provoke, have a conscience, today I still ... work ...

[with]

Quote: spender

Fuck, for the first time I set you minus !!!! It’s good to provoke, have a conscience, today I still ... work.

Fixed!))

[spender]

Quote: met

Fixed!))

Thank!!! And I wouldn’t fall asleep

[Pimply]

Well, what can I say? Only

[spender]

Quote: met

And it will come by itself !!))

Oh, I remember Seryoga posted a gradation in titles by the size of the chest !!!
Serge, if post on the site !!! Admins, sin is for me, ready to receive a warning!

[with]

Quote: spender

Admins, sin is for me, ready to receive a warning!

By the way, you did not understand what I wrote in the morning, SHILO complained about you in the forum !!))
So ...... I mean the site !!

[spender]

Quote: met

By the way, you did not understand what I wrote in the morning, SHILO complained about you in the forum !!))

You’ll laugh, but for some reason I make some people want to complain, although by itself I do not affect anyone It's funny, people call themselves "offended", but when I call him a rooster he complains and warnings are sent to me ...

[with]

Quote: spender

It's funny, people call themselves "offended", and when I call him a rooster, he complains and warnings are sent to me.

)))) ahahahaha (about offended)
Well, there are enough fools everywhere, why touch him, if he is already "offended" in life !!))

[Yarbay]

Quote: spender

You’ll laugh, but for some reason I make some people want to complain, although I don’t touch anyone on my own. It's funny, people call themselves “offended”, and when I call him a rooster, they complain and send me warnings ...

This is not just funny)))
It is a masterpiece))))))))))

[Odessa]

spender,

Oh, I remember Seryoga posted a gradation in titles by the size of the chest !!!
Serge, if post on the site !!! Admins, sin is for me, ready to receive a warning!

I have this photo, but do not ask

[Yarbay]

Quote: Odessa

I have this photo, but do not ask

Sister I can))) I have 4 wives laid))))))))

[spender]

Quote: Yarbay

I have 4 wives))))))))

Here you’ll think that it’s better to have 4 wives (calm, comfort, children) or a bunch of lovers (passion, debauchery, scratching the back)
I am now inclined to the latter, even though mom insists on wives

[Yarbay]

Quote: spender

Here you’ll think that it’s better to have 4 wives (calm, comfort, children) or a bunch of lovers (passion, debauchery, scratching the back)
I am now inclined to the latter, even though mom insists on wives

I also insist on wives))))))))))
I can write in private all the advantages))))))))))))))

[spender]

Quote: Yarbay

I also insist on wives))))))))))) I can write all the advantages in private))))))))))))))

No, I myself had studied everything very well + and - ... Well, I’m fooling around ... Everything is clean at home and the food is on schedule (2 ladies), everything is at work at work and I know who to whom and who on whom (3 ladies) + business trips (4 ladies to choose) .........
Alibek, what are the wives? I’m listening to my mother, but I have my opinion ...
I support and cherish my daughters from marriage ... I will give everything for them, they are satisfied with this state of affairs, I am grateful to them, I do not bring "hot-water bottles" together ...
Maybe not right, but it happened in the subject ...

[Yarbay]

Quote: spender

Maybe not right, but it happened in the subject ...

You know better)))))))))))

[Pimply]

Here are such pictures - more, pliz

[Odessa]

spender,
Fight off desire?

[spender]

Quote: Odessa

Fight off desire?

To no avail ... I have now time ora ... oh (not the site but Murzilka) while everything is through, now it’s about 20 minutes and I’ll leave for serious

[Odessa]

spender,

To no avail ... I have now time ora ... oh (not a site but Murzilka)

So I thought, he already incites some oracles to cohabitation.

[spender]

Quote: Odessa

So I thought, he already incites some oracles to cohabitation

Orakulidze is happy, sniffs under the table, I talk. It was fun for the friends when I started to beat the keys on the laptop from behind the table, and then the unity ...

[Odessa]

spender,

Orakulidze is happy, sniffs under the table, I talk.

Have you got a cat?

[spender]

Quote: Odessa

Have you got a cat?

Well, there always is ... But after today's showdown, it seems that there will be changes in the group. Sorrow, the culprit is punished and thrown into the trash ... Everything will be normal

[spender]

Quote: Yarbay

I remember that my elder brother congratulated me on the first bruise)))))

I don’t remember the first bruise, but my cousin was 5 years older and they were afraid to touch me, but in general he fought for the girl himself with his seniors, but he did boxing and sambo, there were no problems

[Yarbay]

Quote: spender

I don’t remember the first bruise, but my cousin was 5 years older and they were afraid to touch me, but in general he fought for the girl himself with his seniors, but he did boxing and sambo, there were no problems

The fact is that I have a lot of brothers))))))))
And our family and our family know very well)))
I just always wanted to do it myself !! I never told the eldest !!! And when he found out they first fought together, then it hit me, but in words)))
I remember studying in the 8th grade when 10 classmates complained to my brother and they say they did not touch me because of him)))) and I was even more furious about this)))
And for the younger ones often had when they were little)))
Often the older brother sent me for the younger ones))))
There were good times))))))

[nycsson]

Quote: vaf

And about the total number of Indian Su-30 MKI in general ......... I am silent +!

Yes buddy! My very heart bleeds! There are hundreds of such examples!

[commander]

You forget about another technique!

[VAF]

Quote: military commander

You forget about another technique!

This is about this or what? Well, yes .... with "you" ... forget ....

Su-30MKM Malaysian Air Force .....

This photo clearly shows the Thales 'friend or foe' identification system antennas (in front of the canopy of the flashlight as on the American F-16), the Avitronics (South Africa) laser warning sensor LWS-310 (bottom-side under the influx, in total on the plane 4 pieces: two sensors are installed on the sides of the air intakes), an Avitronics MAW-300 ultraviolet missile launch detection sensor (under the cockpit, there are 2 pieces on the plane in total: the second sensor is installed on top of the host beam between the nacelles).
Other export Su-30s (Su-30MKI, Su-30MKA, Su-30MK, etc.) lack laser warning sensors and ultraviolet missile launch detection sensors (they are still not available even on the T-50 PAK FA and Su-35 with "several advantages", not to mention the other "modernized" combatant Su-27/30 of the Russian Air Force) and among the "brothers" Su-30MKM can be considered the most advanced option.
Also on the plane are the antennas of the L-150 radar warning system of the Omsk Central Clinical Hospital (on the tail boom and the leading edges of the wing), the Thales ILS, and the Thales Damocles hanging sighting container.

[nycsson]

And now it's my turn!
For 7 years, Russia delivered abroad 290 aircraft for $ 20 billion

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22.05.2012 16:22

Su-30MKI Indian Air Force

Over the past seven years, Rosoboronexport has supplied 290 Russian aircraft worth over $ 20 billion abroad, said Alexander Mikheev, deputy general director of the state-owned company.

Mikheev said in an interview with the Russia 24 channel that most of the aircraft exports fell on the Su and MiG brands. The aviation component traditionally accounts for at least 40 percent of Rosoboronexport's total supplies and continues to grow.

Over the period from 2001 to 2011, Russia sold over 400 military helicopters abroad. In 2011 alone, Rosoboronexport supplied 99 Russian helicopters worth over $ 2,5 billion to foreigners.

In general, the demand for Russian weapons and equipment remains high despite the popular unrest in the countries of North Africa and the Middle East. “But we are in tough competition with leading manufacturers of military equipment, both American and European,” Mikheev said.

At the end of 2011, the export of Russian arms and military equipment reached $ 13,2 billion, which significantly exceeded the planned sales volume. It is worth considering that such an increase in volumes is associated with a postponement of the contract for this year under previously expired agreements.
http://warsonline.info/vpk/za-7-let-rossiya-postavil-290-samoletov-na-20-mlrd-do
llarov.html

[VAF]

Quote: nycsson

For 7 years, Russia delivered abroad 290 aircraft for $ 20 billion

Alex, +! And add not just airplanes, but new combat fighters, fighter bombers, well, a little TCB, about helicopters in general ..... a huge number.

Well, the helicopters began to come to our troops for the last two years, but ..fighters?

And I already asked this question ... "where is the money .Zin" or at least .. airplanes?

And why are we with such numbers and volumes, with oil and gas ..... we are in such full ........ F?

I will not list all the places where our country is located on various positions ......

[Rustam]

By the way, what is true is true Malaysian um the most advanced

[Pimply]

With Thales, collaboration has been very active lately

[PC-36M]

Quote: vaf

laser warning sensors and ultraviolet missile launch detection sensors absent (they are still not even on the T-50 PAK FA and Su-35 with "several pluses", not to mention other "modernized" combatant Su-27/30 of the Russian Air Force)

Sheer lies. But you know what you're lying and deliberately mislead people.

What is it then?
http://www.missiles.ru/_foto/MAKS-2011_1_news/IMG_1322.JPG

In addition, I will answer your "everything is gone."
Su30 was delivered abroad not the last 2-3 years, but 2 decades (20 years) ... Moreover, most of them were delivered and contracted at a time when our country not only had no money for the plane, but also retired.
So those shipments of Su30 are good for the country, they allowed Sukhoi how to survive until the moment the country is back on its feet.
As it was written above, the amount of 20 billion delivered su30, in the country's budget there is so much money for airplanes? so that enough for retirement? NO!
It is convenient to criticize sitting in a warm armchair ... or maybe it would be better if you personally gave 20 million to the country in 2000 for the purchase of these aircraft, instead of shouting "everything was gone." Yes, it's bad that they supplied so much equipment abroad ... bad for the thoughtless cheers of the patriots and for the hidden and not so enemies of the country (traitors, 5th column).

Further, you, and many here, very zealously condemn the number of pier 30 pieces a little ...
The worst thing is that even 2000 pieces will not be enough for you because the essence is not important to you, it is important for you to shout "everything is lost", this time. Two, this is what you impudently play by substituting the concept, for some reason you attribute 30 pieces as the only purchase, as if there are no other aircraft. Meanwhile, in the aggregate, the number of ordered planes is really an impressive and joyful event, though not for the 5th column. I note that in addition to the Air Force, we also have other types of troops.
Until 2020, the Russian army will receive:
- 28 submarines: 20 nuclear submarines, 8 submarines.
- 50 large surface ships
- 600 aircraft
- more than 1000 helicopters
- 2300 tanks
- 28 S-400
- 10 brigades Iskander
- 10 Yars missile regiments
- thousands and thousands of different equipment.
And this is only a small fraction of everything that they plan (about financed) for entering the RF Armed Forces.
This is much more than any other country, even the United States with their frantic budget does not provide as much weapons for their country.

God forbid plans come true and not some **** does not hurt.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: PC-36M

As it was written above, the amount of 20billion delivered to 30 is there in the country's budget there is so much money for airplanes?

And that there is no less than a billion dollars for airplanes in the country, they can tell you where to get them, but leave their letters for schoolchildren, maybe they will believe. At the summit, 600 billions were found and the pensioners were not deprived, and the unfortunate 20 billions of dollars cannot be thought before they need to be written. Oh by the way, how are you NEIGHBOR

[spender]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Oh by the way, how are you NEIGHBOR

It looks like it's bad, the competition for the best worker seems to be "leaked" judging by the fact that there is nothing to buy the marshal's account

[PC-36M]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

And that the country has no less than a billion dollars for airplanes, can tell you where to get it,

Now there is, on this and there was an order for 30 pieces of Su30, along with other planes such as su35, su34, etc.

Yes, and tell me where to get the money and zin?

Quote: Alexander Romanov

, and leave your scribbles for schoolchildren, maybe they will believe

Scribble you and those who write like you, your idiocy can not be cured. You don’t want to work, you are waiting for a freebie, and they should give everything to you for no reason. For you there is somewhere a chest of gold which the government is hiding from you, you do not even understand that in order to have something you need to work.

Quote: Alexander Romanov

At the summit, 600 billion were found and the pensioners were not deprived

Why not trillions? In my opinion, this question has already been answered at the pre-conference or what Putin had there. Roads, houses, infrastructure, gas.
No, I don’t mind if you PERSONALLY give up all the benefits of civilization, so that you don’t build roads and buy military aircraft, the current one tells me that you won’t give up your penny and you personally sneezed that it would give the defense of the country 1 plane let's say.

Quote: Alexander Romanov

and the unfortunate 20 billion whales cannot

As far as I know, payment for exports was in dollars and not rubles.

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Before writing, you need to think

I’m just thinking, but you definitely aren’t.

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Oh by the way, how are you NEIGHBOR

Yab such a neighbor as you sent much further. I do not like stupid neighbors.

[Apollo]

Quote: PC-36M

Sheer lies. But you know what you're lying and deliberately mislead people.

[PC-36M]

Well, a man who lies, did not dare to answer me, I think we will end this exposure of lies.

Oh, it's a pity, otherwise I have already contacted a familiar pilot in the hope that vaf will resist and how to prove the absence of sensors on the Su-35S, we laughed heartily together at the lie of "vaf".

By the way, "vaf" more than one pilot would not write what you wrote, and the nonsense of the Nikolayev brothers has long been sorted out, it's strange that you don't know))) Well, now I know. So write that "everything is gone" and "rusty aircraft" is more subtle) and the current is still thick.

[Apollo]

Quote: military commander

You forget about another technique!

you meant this technique

[nycsson]

Quote: Apollon

you meant this technique

Yes, these are flowers! We must look for yachts of another statesman!

[Yarbay]

Quote: military commander

You forget about another technique!

about tractors * Belarus *?))))))))))))
also remember))))))

[VAF]

Quote: nycsson

My very heart bleeds!

Mutually, +! Algeria ... 28 pieces !!

[spender]

Quote: vaf

Mutually, +! Algeria ... 28 pieces !!

Serge, don’t tear our heart out!

[nycsson]

Quote: spender

Serge, don’t tear our heart out!

Quote: vaf

Mutually, +! Algeria ... 28 pieces !!

Oh, do not tear !!!
I almost forgot, so we have positive points! We buy wheeled vehicles in thousands !!! Something Iveco is worth. Please take this into account when writing your posts !!! Not everything is so bad, gentlemen !!!

[Antipetian]

It is a pity that we have no analogues Iveco. A tiger can ride well in the snow, but, unfortunately, it does not have protection like a Lynx. This is not Mrap. We will wait for the Bear! Especially MO (Rogozin, I'm afraid to make a mistake) the machine was very interested

[Rustam]

Yes, only one thing, but ALZHIRS have recently discovered Israeli components, which, if desired, can be disabled by Israeli electronic warfare systems
at one time, the eurocopter was expelled from Algeria for this with its helicopters (because it also pushed Israeli stuff into its breo)

[Drednout]

Veteran, good day. Purely for information - where are the pilots for such handsome men being trained here?

[Alex 241]

Sorry for the clarification, the pilot is civil aviation, the pilot is accepted as the pilot of the air force. And they are being trained at military military schools, which unfortunately has diminished.

[VAF]

Quote: Alex 241

the pilot is civil aviation, the pilot is the pilot in the air force

In principle, yes. But it is not critical, but with the schools you greatly overestimated the bar, did not decrease. but there’s only one left for airplanes and helicopters, and the rest are DISPATCHED, you won’t say otherwise! +!

[Alex 241]

I hope no offense to civilian pilots, but my first commander said: a pilot is a person who knows how to move his hands and press buttons, and a pilot knows how to do it. favorite saying: he got into the fuselage, he must know what to do. Here is such an aviation mother native.

[VAF]

Quote: Alex 241

my first commander said: a pilot is a person who knows how to move his hands with his legs and press buttons, but a pilot knows how to do everything. favorite saying: he got into the fuselage, he must know what to do

++++++!

[Drednout]

It seems that in the Saratov region is going to the restoration of the helicopter school.

[VAF]

Quote: Drednout

Purely for information - where are the pilots for such handsome men being trained here?

And the same to you, +! Retraining for such only in Lipetsk, even if after school (the only one you get), they first go to some kind of center like Borisoglebsk, where they are brought to condition, because. after school they have miseo training and raid on the L-39 and L-410. and with this level of training where?

just 5 years more and exactly. as they say. we will invite foreigners to work ...

[Alex 241]

And what about Savasleyku, too, they let under the knife? I served in the 286 center for combat training of the air defense IA staff, we graduated from Stavropol to condition throughout the year, and then to the military regiments.

[VAF]

Quote: Alex 241

I served in the 286 center for combat training of the air defense IA crew, we graduated from Stavropol to condition for a year, and then to combat regiments.

About 4 years ago, extreme lieutenants were "taken out". if memory does not change the same 4 !!!! In general, not weak ..... in the pulp and paper industry and PLC do not engage in combat training. and the basics of .. "pedaling"?

But Savasleyka is still alive ... thank God! +!

[Alex 241]

He served in the 27th Guards Vyborg Red Banner IAP, which is part of the pulp and paper industry. From the name of the other two regiments entering the center you will be trembling: Kupino and Dombarovka, they will scare any graduates of aviation schools. But thank God, we were an elite regiment that had just withdrawn from Afghanistan.

[Drednout]

Quote: vaf

On such only in Lipetsk retraining

Thanks, Sergey. But only in the sense - after school? Pilots are prepared in schools !!?
Where did the Orenburgskoe, Stavropol, etc. go? Well, patriotic youth asks me, but I can only say from my Suvorov times, and they began under the USSR. Have they really started making airplanes, but there are no personnel (pilots, technicians) for them? This is even tighter than the "toothless" "Shark".

[PC-36M]

200 su30s
200 su35
200 t-50
200 su34
200 etc.

And so thousands and thousands, why so much? are we at war and suffer losses in the mat part?

30 su30s ordered, su35 48 and 48 more, there still su34 I do not know how much but not a little ... in total I think your 200 will just pick up the current nomenclature will be different.
In addition, other aircraft undergo modernization.

Stop 1 single case from the set of cases to give out as one single.

God forbid the pace will be the same as in recent years, then everything will be fine!

[VAF]

Quote: andrei332809

not Soviet times unfortunately

I completely agree, +! But for .. "overseas" then .. enough capacity and ... everything else?

Su-30MK2 Indonesian Air Force

[andrei332809]

Quote: vaf

But for .. "overseas" then .. enough capacity and ... everything else

from overseas for some reason, personal pockets are full, those that are closer to the body

[Ustin]

We hope for an additional order, there have been persistent rumors about it for the second month already, so we will wait a little. The machine worked according to the program for about 2 hours, there are no comments. As I already reported, it differs from the previous ones for the better, taking into account the experience of operating the SU 30. for us it is significant. And as on analysis, Sergei Kostin said: “Our Air Force will finally get a quite decent car.” Yes, and in terms of capacity, there are quite enough of them. There may be some problems with the pickers, but they can be solved.

[VAF]

Quote: nycsson

Only 30 pieces are not enough! It will be not enough !!!

Alex, welcome! + Here are our "friends" ..... The Chinese ...... say the same ... not enough ... so far they only have ... 24 pieces per YEAR (!!!!!!) Su-30MKK !!!! Well, the total number of already flying and prepared units for conducting full-scale actions you yourself will count +!

[nycsson]

Quote: vaf

Alex, welcome! +

Hello, Sergey!

Quote: vaf

Here are our "friends" ..... The Chinese ...... say the same ... not enough ... so far they only have ... 24 pieces per YEAR (!!!!!!) Su-30MKK !!!! wassat Well, you can count the total number of units already flying and prepared for full-scale actions +!

And we don’t get used to arming potential opponents! Business and nothing personal! Since Moscow Defense does not buy, then opponents will buy it! And we somehow interrupt ......
Moreover, the NHS said that no one is threatening us in the next five years!

[commander]

You shouldn’t be so, because the Su-34, Su-35, Mi-28 and Ka-52 are not delivered anywhere abroad.

[nycsson]

Quote: military commander

Su-35

Su-35 must still be put on the stream! India recently abandoned the Mi-28; they lost the Apache tender! I don’t know about the rest!

[Antipetian]

Ka-52 is only for us, as well as 34-ka. Exclusive, so to speak. The military commander is right in this. As for the Mi-28, too, only for the Motherland

[nycsson]

Quote: Antipetian

As for the Mi-28, too, only for the Motherland

I’m saying that it was put up for sale, they just lost the tender! So much for the homeland!
Rosoboronexport explained why the Russian Federation lost Indian air tenders
http://topwar.ru/15226-rosoboroneksport-obyasnil-pochemu-rf-proigrala-indiyskie-
aviatendery.html

[Antipetian]

Well, it's a pity of course. But that's okay. Firstly, we have a lot of other contracts with India: in BTT and even with Vikra with our own Migar KUB.
Secondly, no one questions the combat effectiveness of the Mi-28N! Look at Rafal, no one is buying it at all!

[VAF]

Quote: Antipetian

Ka-52 is only for us, as well as 34-ka. Exclusive, so to speak. The military commander is right in this

hopes of young men feed ???? Well, learn the story! MINUS!

[Antipetian]

No, but this is true, are they not being delivered anywhere? Is this a fact? Correct if I'm wrong

[VAF]

Quote: Antipetian

No, but this is true, are they not being delivered anywhere? Is this a fact?

India-126 units-contract for 11 billion "Baku"!
Brazil practically announced Rafal’s victory in the tender, but after they inserted AFAR there. then I think they’ll go!

[VAF]

Quote: nycsson

And we don’t get used to arming potential opponents

Yes, we all ... arm, that's just ... for some reason ... the declared profit from contracts ... some ... "air", in no way reaches the pocket of the Motherland

Su-30MK2V of the Vietnamese Air Force ....

[VAF]

Quote: spender

This is for us and this

Lyosha, in light of this, in general, the article that you gave .. about the rejection of KABs in general .... looks complete ... nonsense ..... not only are there statements by "such specialists" and "experts "that ...... no words.

But right away "rushing" the Taburetkinskiys ..... in everything (?????) it is necessary to save (????) ... again for ..furniture is not enough or ... for "overseas bells and whistles"?

[sined0707]

Tell me, then what kind of car is the Su-35, what is the difference. I saw on YouTube how it flies, I froze to say the least.

[spender]

Quote: vaf

in light of this, in general, the article that you gave .. about the rejection of CABs in general .... looks complete ... nonsense ..... moreover, there are statements of "such specialists" and "experts", what ...... no words. But right away "rushing" the Taburetkinsky ..... in everything (?????) it is necessary to save (????) ... again on ..furniture is not enough or ... for "overseas bells and whistles"?

Serega, what strikes me most is that abandoning the KABs and staying with uncontrollable THEY substitute the crews of the planes, who, when approaching the bombing, go in a straight line, like suicide bombers, the life of crews and wrecked cars come out cheaper?

[commander]

Are you talking about the Su-30? What kind of article? Link please?

[VAF]

Quote: spender

with uncontrollable THEY, they substitute the crews of planes that, when approaching the bombing, go in a straight line, like suicide bombers, will crew life and wrecked cars come out cheaper?

Well, not quite so, and with uncontrolled ones, you can perform "figures" really reasonable, but just before starting or dropping it is necessary .. "without sharp evolutions" just continue either pitching or diving or loops on a constant, because. those are experts. who in that article "ride" over their ears, do not know that in the IA and in the IBA the system releases the BSP not by range but by Ratios (longitudinal and lateral), the main thing is to find a target and "tether, and then .." dodge " ... "the machine itself ... will throw!
But here's what to attach "great, you need a locator, and even in the millimeter range, so that you can really day and night and in any conditions!

And the locator is where ... right ... in ...... there, there .. I wasn’t mistaken, now we can only have the Su-24th and 34th dryers, but everything else is .... .day aviation at PMU ... Urya Taburetkin !!!!

Well, Dalniki ... yes, with BSP it’s .. suicide bombers, one way ticket, there yes .. like in the 41st course, speed is height and horizon ... and you can’t do it anymore!

And still .... they stubbornly remain silent that on the basis of KAB-kr. Long ago UAB-kr was made, the same 500 and 1500, but it only flies 30 km, and not 9-km like KAB, but only her ... over the hill .. needed, and we .... this ... that's enough!

[Alex 241]

I’ll clarify a little the corrections taken into account when bombing: calm relative, characteristic speed, characteristic time.

[VAF]

Quote: Alex 241

I’ll clarify a little the corrections taken into account when bombing: calm relative, characteristic speed, characteristic time.

I’ll clarify, if you referred to Long Aviation, you called a minuscule of these amendments, and there isn’t such a thing as the notion of characteristic speed — there is the notion of the truth of speed, which comes to the decisive device from the SHS and the ground speed, which goes directly to the NK (BCVS to form the speed of movement of the rangefinder mark in the preliminary synchronization mode and the time of movement (working out the aiming angle) of the target beam in OPB, this is all if in the manual mode of operation with the complex, and if in the machine, then everything goes only through the BCVS.

and with whistles everything is simpler, everything is done by the PNS, the main thing is that the MIS would count correctly and well, and the residuals were all "stretched out2 then everything flies and falls pls minus a few meters.

And the concept of calm refers only to calculations, but not to practical application. standard conditions and calm never happens!
or are you checking me for lice?

[Alex 241]

I agree, there are much more amendments, and if I hurt you with something, I apologize.

[VAF]

Quote: Alex 241

I agree, there are much more amendments

Yes, the subject of the BPSP and the BDP was like the resistance of citizens ..... passed it, you can get married, but it's easier for them ... here the principle passed-forgot absolutely does not fit, this must always be remembered, and it is even better to know and be friends with JSC and then you will always "work" for 000/000! +

Quote: Alex 241

if I hurt you with something, then I apologize.

In no time, much less comrade from Savastleyki Or have our "slang" been forgotten?
Didn't the regiment commander or his deputies (depending on who conducts control) "drop" the phrase at the readiness control .... well ..... check the birds for lice ... who breathes what !? And .. rushed ....... she over bumps
In life, I can’t believe that this was not +!

[Alex 241]

Serezha, I'm sorry I didn’t introduce myself. Alexander, I served in UCH ARAL. South-eastern Kazakhstan, but nonetheless that I recognized my brother in arms, thank you very much.

[Yarbay]

Quote: Alex 241

Serezha, I'm sorry I didn’t introduce myself. Alexander, I served in UCH ARAL. South-eastern Kazakhstan, but nonetheless that I recognized my brother in arms, thank you very much.

You are well done too !!
I’m telling you as Sergey’s younger brother !!))
The guard knew who they took))))

[Alex 241]

Thank you for your kind words, I am still proud of this title, especially to serve in such a regiment ... a film was made about him and the book was written "BALTIC SKY" with Ulyanov, Gurchenko, Borisov. Moreover, to get into the second squadron. About this, too, you can make a film, and write a book.

[Yarbay]

Quote: Alex 241

Thank you for your kind words, I am still proud of this title, especially to serve in such a regiment ... a film was made about him and the book was written "BALTIC SKY" with Ulyanov, Gurchenko, Borisov. Moreover, to get into the second squadron. About this, too, you can make a film, and write a book.

You know, I’ve been here for about six months and am very happy !!
I have met so many interesting people about whom it is possible and necessary to write books that simply cannot express my admiration for them with words !!!

[Alex 241]

You zaet, the only site where people with a head and content, personality in a word, and not in a state of decay. How I got to my home.

[spender]

Quote: vaf

or are you checking me for lice?

And how much can you?
I understand everything, but if there are doubts about your professionalism, then it is enough to go over your comments to get an idea of ​​"Hu from Hu", but provocations and slander will be reflected. The shield is made! Seryoga, educate the people, and we will cover

[Alex 241]

Did I provoke anyone? I’m behaving like myself correctly and politely. and what provocations? shield? what are you dear about?

[spender]

Quote: Alex 241

Did I provoke anyone? I’m behaving like myself correctly and politely. and what provocations? shield? what are you dear about?

Dear alex 241, do not refer to your account everything that is written on the site You are here (regarding my commentary) aside, grow in rank and prosper, from me + as compensation For what you took for "hitting". Believe me, the site is good and gives a lot of information and positive

[Alex 241]

All the best to you too. Now all the humor of the situation has reached me shake your hand sir.

[spender]

Quote: Alex 241

shake your hand sir.

After being awarded the title Elton John
I think you understand

[Alex 241]

hell everywhere they climbed just a sincere male handshake. I hope this suits you?

[spender]

Quote: Alex 241

sincere male handshake. I hope it suits you?

Yes!

[Yarbay]

Quote: Alex 241

just a sincere male handshake. I hope this suits you?

Sorry for the invasion of your conversation, but I think Alexey is just fine))))) well, maybe he can still hug if fraternally)))))))))))

[Odessa]

Yarbay,

Well, maybe even a hug if fraternally))))))))))))

So the bones crack.

[Alex 241]

As one movie hero used to say: be a whistle spock

[Yarbay]

Quote: spender

Believe the site is good and gives a lot of information and positive

I agree)))) even keeps pensioners in combat uniform)))))))))))
Gold site))) yes the news is not joyful)))

[spender]

Quote: Yarbay

I agree)))) even keeps pensioners in combat uniform)))))))))))

I only realized that these "pensioners", to the sound of a battle trumpet, will go to defend their homeland, while the "glamorous scum" will move away from drugs

Quote: Yarbay

Gold site))) yes the news is not joyful)))

Not gold, but worthy, but forum users ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
A forumchanka + pure gold platinum emerald-diamond

[Alex 241]

I wanted to write: that next to our pensioners many 20-year-olds will smoke nervously nearby, but he was late

[Yarbay]

Quote: spender

Not gold, but worthy, but forum users ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
A forumchanka + pure gold platinum emerald-diamond

I confirm))))
Moreover, I am ready to testify under oath)))))))

[spender]

Quote: Yarbay

Moreover, I am ready to testify under oath)))))))

Alibek, we are not in court, but I think the lady will appreciate your impulse!
Oh these hot caucasian men

[Odessa]

spender,
And Alibek, who are you going to swear for the night already?

[Yarbay]

Quote: Odessa

And Alibek, who are you going to swear for the night already?

You have there in the West all the evidence in court with an oath or not))))))
Well have to go on the Quran !!

[Odessa]

Yarbay,

You have it in the west

Mat burned in the morning, Omar called your name. You started now, actually in the Middle East, I don’t know who you have in the West.

[Yarbay]

Quote: Odessa

Mat burned in the morning, Omar called your name. You started now, actually in the Middle East, I don’t know who you have in the West.

Although you are in the Middle East, you play football in UEFA)))))))
So I was not mistaken)))))))))))))))
And I’m sure, I’m not without reason mistaken))))))))))))
Very dangerous)))))))))))
The character is Nordic, merciless to the enemies of the Motherland)))
and takes black)))))))))

[with]

Quote: Yarbay

And I’m sure, I’m not without reason mistaken))))))))))))
Very dangerous)))))))))))
The character is Nordic, merciless to the enemies of the Motherland)))

As Apollo says, I am watching you !!)))

[Yarbay]

Quote: met

As Apollo says, I am watching you !!)))

By the way, when * such a colossus * in the sense of PERSONALITY Follows me, then I become calm for myself !!))))))))

[Alex 241]

This is the most important thing if your friend covers your back.

[Odessa]

Yarbay,

Although you are in the Middle East, you play football in UEFA)))))))

Footballer:
- On the one hand, I can sign this contract, but on the other hand ...
Agent:
- On the other hand, it’s not necessary, there’s a blank sheet.

And I’m sure, I’m not without reason mistaken))))))))))))
Very dangerous)))))))))))

What causes such concerns?

The character is Nordic, merciless to the enemies of the Motherland)))
and takes black)))))))))

He wrote, there is still a vest and a dog. Of special preferences, ginger tea, orientation, natural. It's simple.

[Yarbay]

Quote: Odessa

utbolist:
- On the one hand, I can sign this contract, but on the other hand ...
Agent:
- On the other hand, it’s not necessary, there’s a blank sheet.

In a word, the Arabs do not believe that you are in the Middle East, that is, sopravlyayutsya !!

Quote: Odessa

What causes such concerns?

Quote: Odessa

What causes such concerns?

I have a nose !!
I feel very dangerous))))))))))) He ignores my provocations))) do not prick))))))

Quote: Odessa

He wrote, there is still a vest and a dog. Of special preferences, ginger tea, orientation, natural. It's simple.

Quote: Odessa

He wrote, there is still a vest and a dog. Of special preferences, ginger tea, orientation, natural. It's simple.

About 10 years ago, according to this information, I would use the deductive method to determine which part it serves, name, and everything else)))))
but now I go with the original cane, when I get angry, my head sweats, I like birds and I hate injections))))))))))))

[Odessa]

Yarbay,

I have a nose !!
I feel very dangerous))))))))))) He ignores my provocations))) do not prick))))))

Toughie.

About 10 years ago, according to this information, I would use the deductive method to determine which part it serves, name, and everything else)))))

And why do you need him?

but now I go with the original cane, when I get angry, my head sweats))))))))))))

And do you really think this is it?

[Yarbay]

Quote: Odessa

And why do you need him?

10 years ago, it would be interesting to me professionally clean)))))))))))))

Quote: Odessa

And do you really think this is it?

I am sure that this is OH)))))))))

[Alex 241]

Guys, I feel like a person peeking through a keyhole. Then I retire. It was nice to meet you. See you soon.

[Yarbay]

Quote: Alex 241

Guys, I feel like a person peeking through a keyhole. Then I retire. It was nice to meet you. See you soon.

Good luck guardsman)))))))

[Odessa]

alex 241,

Guys I feel like a man peeking through a keyhole

Well, that’s not in the oil. Where else are the barn castles preserved?

Then I am retiring. It was nice to meet you. See you.

Mutually, come back often! +

[Odessa]

Yarbay,

10 years ago, it would be interesting to me professionally clean)))))))))))))

Purely professional interest? Sounds tempting ...

I am sure that this is OH)))))))))

Matt, who are you?
(I must answer now)

[Yarbay]

Quote: Odessa

Matt, who are you?
(I must answer now)

He does not even prick when I call him Fedor))))))))))
Because of the avatar)))
Just like Apollo)))))))))

[Odessa]

Yarbay,

Just like Apollo)))))))))

Apollo pretended to be a bear today, but the name never said.

[with]

Quote: Odessa

Matt, who are you?
(I must answer now)

I AM??
Man and it sounds proudly !!)))

[Odessa]

with,

I AM??
Man and it sounds proudly !!)))

In principle, this answer was to be expected. It is good that I did not say that the address is not a house or street, but the address is the Soviet Union.
Last time he wrote about himself (S.Ya. Marshak)

The story of an unknown hero
Many guys
Shoulder and strong.
Many wear
T-shirts and caps.
A lot in the capital
The same icons.
Each
To work-defense
Ready

[Yarbay]

Quote: Odessa

Last time he wrote about himself (S.Ya. Marshak)

Do you really think I could forget this)))))))))))) ????
I remember by heart that he and Apollo wrote, only to the point))))))))))))))))

[Odessa]

Yarbay,

Do you really think I could forget this)))))))))))) ????
I remember by heart that he and Apollo wrote, only to the point))))))))))))))))

Unravel, it would be a desire, but it burns
And not bad versed in computers.

[Yarbay]

Quote: Odessa

Unravel, it would be a desire, but it burns
And not bad versed in computers.

And then not such calloli))))
in our offices the generals as small children cried and remembered a happy childhood with deep sadness))))))))))))

[with]

Quote: Yarbay

in our offices the generals as small children cried and remembered a happy childhood with deep sadness))))))))))))

Yes???
And where is your office ???)))
You constantly bully me, and also a specialist in public law!
But what about the presumption of innocence ??))

[Yarbay]

Quote: met

And where is your office ???)))

already far from me))))))))))

[with]

Quote: Odessa

Unravel, it would be a desire, but it burns good
And not bad versed in computers.

Unravel, I do not mind !!)))

[with]

Quote: Odessa

In principle, this answer was to be expected. It is good that I did not say that the address is not a house and not a street, but the address is Sovetskiy Soyu

And this already happened, though the address was not asked, just as an answer to a future question a song sounded

It was!!)))

[with]

Quote: Odessa

Toughie.

Quote: Odessa

And why do you need him?

Quote: Odessa

And do you really think this is it?

Odessa law-IT you need?))))
Sometimes a hunter becomes a victim !!!

[Odessa]

with,
Alibek have you seen?

Sometimes a hunter becomes a victim !!!

They threaten us. You are right!

[with]

Quote: Odessa

They threaten us. You are right!

Drain everything !!)))

[Odessa]

with,

Drain everything !!)))

It will not work, it’s easier for me to shut off the water in the entire riser, and there will be no discharge!

[with]

Quote: Odessa

It will not work, it’s easier for me to shut off the water in the entire riser, and there will be no discharge!

It is better to live separately, so that no one can block the "drain"!
And it's even easier to keep the "plums" under control !!))))

[Yarbay]

Quote: Odessa

They threaten us. You are right!

You know, after all, I also had an argument with him at first)))))))
We are on knives with him))
He just knows more about me than I do about him))
I specifically gave him such an advantage so that later they would not say that the strong one offends the young))))))
Specially I am not writing the weak))) it looks impressive, I leave a place for reconciliation as my mother Omar wisely advised !!))

[Odessa]

Yarbay,

I specifically gave him such an advantage so that later they would not say that the strong one offends the young))))))

Why are you sure that he is younger?
It was we who once signed, in which year the schools graduated, and Matt was silent as partisans.

[Yarbay]

Quote: Odessa

Why are you sure that he is younger?

Yes, someone who is offended)))))))))))
Diplomacy))))))))))

[with]

Quote: Yarbay

Yes, someone who is offended)))))))))))
Diplomacy))))))))))

It’s called, determine the age of the enemy !!)))

[Odessa]

with,

It’s called, determine the age of the enemy !!)))

New online game?

[with]

Quote: Yarbay

I specifically gave him such an advantage so that later they would not say that the strong one offends the young))))))
Specially I am not writing the weak))) it looks impressive, I leave a place for reconciliation as my mother Omar wisely advised !!))

Not well respected Alibek play amplitude, not good !!))
It’s very dangerous to bring an opponent with whom on knives is an axiom !!))

[Yarbay]

Quote: met

Not well respected Alibek play amplitude, not good !!))
It’s very dangerous to bring an opponent with whom on knives is an axiom !!))

Well, depending on which case)))
there is another axiom, keep a friend close, and the enemy even closer))
Today, one uncle told an awesome story)) 30 years ago, he went on the first walk, he was young)))))
Says here in Baku, his friends said to him, they say, how you get into the zone beat someone and they say it will be easier there)))))
In general, he got into some kind of Siberian deaf colony !!)) says I look the first day the troops go to work, everyone is healthy, and he is so feeble!
The second day, again, I can’t find anyone on my own))) finally on the third day one old man watches, wandering out of order, and goes far behind and ate walking))) He comes up and says that why did you step on my foot?))
The old man in response to him, they say blow dude otsyudova boy))
He says, I hit him in the jaw !!)))
and here, from all sides, several convicts flew out from under the ground and let’s poke him with his push !!)) Then they counted 17 wounds (by the way, I would not believe he showed me)! By the miracle, he survived, that old man turned out to be a thief in law even after that He was cured and called if they had a claim to explain, why did he happen? !!)) But this honestly told that they said so and so friends advised!)))
After that he was taken to his company)) once survived, come in handy))

[Odessa]

Yarbay,

there is another axiom, keep a friend close, and the enemy even closer))

Not always, several times already convinced. Better an open enemy than an imaginary friend!

[with]

Quote: Yarbay

After that he was taken to his company)) once survived, come in handy))

This is what refutes your saying - keep the enemy even closer, meaning everything you know about the enemy !!!
He was just lucky !!! Do not know the ford, do not go into the water !!!

And if you dig deeper into my posts (which the Swedish tracking system has already done ----. Times ..... RA FRA), then it already has a lot to put in its Swedish Holov !!!))

[Yarbay]

Quote: met

This also refutes your adage of the enemy even closer, meaning everything you know about the enemy !!! He was just lucky !!! Do not know the ford, do not go into the water !!!

So I meant it))) You brought an axiom, I did not want to fall behind and also brought it)))
Although I never followed him)) I'm too hot-tempered))))))
And about the Swedish system, don’t worry, we’ll cover it)))))))))
I, too, on the side))
Met good luck !!))

[with]

Quote: Yarbay

I, too, on the side))
Met good luck !!))

[Odessa]

with,

Not well respected Alibek play amplitude, not good !!))

If you do not swing, then go straight or break?
In short, stop playing giveaways, we'll figure it out later. Good night, all!

[Yarbay]

Quote: Odessa

In short, stop playing giveaways, we'll figure it out later. Good night, all!

I agree it's time for him to take seriously with Apollo))) routes, escape routes and all that))) docks)))))))

[Odessa]

Yarbay,

I agree it's time for him to take seriously with Apollo))) routes, escape routes and all that))) docks)))))))

An interesting proposal, and attach it to Matt, that he gravitates to Honduras. Do they probably have their own people scattered around the perimeter?

[with]

Quote: Odessa

An interesting proposal, and attach to Matt, what he gravitates to Honduras.

Honduras-capacious word !!!))

Quote: Odessa

They probably have their people scattered around the perimeter there?

)))

[with]

Quote: Odessa

Mat burned in the morning, Omar called your name. You started now, actually in the Middle East, I don’t know who you have in the West.

Well, how much can you apologize, but I say sleep was ...

[Yarbay]

Quote: spender

Alibek, we are not in court, but I think the lady will appreciate your impulse!

Brother's sister will always appreciate))))))))))

[VAF]

Quote: Alex 241

I’m behaving kindly and politely. and what provocations? shield?

Alexander, everything ..... as taught! +!

[VAF]

Quote: spender

"Hu from Hu", well, provocations and slander will be reflected.

Lyosha, thanks. But here everything is within the tolerances and no problems, because .... our man! +!

[spender]

Quote: vaf

.but everything is within tolerances and no problems, because .... our man

Seryoga, I had no doubt, you are like X-ray! Guys, it helped me so much when I and Zhenya (Steam Locomotive) got into a misunderstanding ... Seryoga is simply obliged, they will "merge" me support However, what am I working on? Everyone sees it already

[Odessa]

spender,

support me

They will not merge, we will write a collective letter about your pardon to Admin Smirnov. Without such a Redhead, the site loses its color.

[spender]

Quote: Odessa

Without such a Redhead, the site loses its flavor.

Guys and a girl - you yourself color !!! And I went out for a walk ... Sometimes I myself feel ashamed that in some people I’m reviving illusions, I realized one thing, that's enough, the funny thing is that they mistake me for the secret weapon of the admins and as the banner of the opposition And I just fight for friends and do not forgive the enemies, while taking on myself .... (Odessa woman knows this word ) In general, I am grateful and grateful to you and let someone call us a gang, but I got here only positive emotions ... Thanks to everyone
IT WAS NOT EPITAFIA !!! I'M WITH YOU!!!!!!!!!

[Alex 241]

The banner is a symbol of military honor and valor .... When the Banner is lost, a part is disbanded, and the guilty are tried by the tribunal ...

[Odessa]

spender,

the funniest thing that they mistake me for the secret weapon of admins

Warnings and bans like a cat fleas. Why not imagine a secret weapon

at the same time by .... (Odessa woman knows this word)

And not only this.

I'M WITH YOU!!!!!!!!!

You won’t get anywhere, we are all with you too!

[Alex 241]

climbed into the fuselage, must know what to do;)

[Yarbay]

Quote: spender

Guys and a girl - you yourself color

Surprisingly, I think exactly the same !!
Each of you is something extraordinary !!

[with]

Quote: Yarbay

Quote: spender
Guys and a girl - you yourself color

Surprisingly, I think exactly the same !!
Each of you is something extraordinary !!

I’ll sing!)))
Watch from 49 seconds

[Alex 241]

Masterpiece cartoon !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! + 5

[with]

Quote: Odessa

They will not merge, we will write a collective letter about your pardon to Admin Smirnov. Without such a Redhead, the site loses its color.

By the way, a spender, I strongly doubt that past letters helped, alas!
Izya pulled out (at least I think so), the admin simply could not refuse him, writing in the style of a poor Jew, now this is erased in my opinion.
The style was chosen correctly, and most importantly, he asked not only for himself, but for all his enemies too!
And then think for yourself !!!

[1tankist]

Quote: spender

This is for us and it’s good. I’m like in that joke about pills from greed: Come on, come on, more, more ...

Well done, Alex
Your comment reminded me of an episode from the movie "Wedding in a Robin", when two heroes shared a chest with a loot: This is for you, and this is for me. It's me again. This is all the time for me, etc.

Well, if without jokes, then these aircraft are a welcome gift. Faster they would have entered the army.

[spender]

Old Man promised modern aircraft

Lukashenko: Belarus will receive aircraft from Russia to protect the common border

21 September 2012, 18: 07


For duty on the border of the Union State and its proper protection, Belarus will receive aircraft from Russia, said the head of Belarus, Alexander Lukashenko.

«In the near future we will receive modern aircraft in order to be on duty at the joint border", Said Lukashenko, commenting on the talks in Sochi with Russian President Vladimir Putin, RIA Novosti reports.

“We agreed on this,” Lukashenko emphasized.

“That is, we agreed to ensure our border with the president of Russia in an appropriate manner,” Lukashenko said.

[commander]

Not enough specifics. However, very interesting news. With such a single air defense system!

[VAF]

Quote: spender

This is for us and this

Lyosha, and this is the Su-30MKV for Venezuela, +!

[nycsson]

Quote: vaf

Lyosha, and this is the Su-30MKV for Venezuela, +!

When will we have such a row ??? If you collect and count all your posts, 100 pieces are set exactly over the hill !!!

[VAF]

Quote: nycsson

If you collect and count all your posts, 100 pieces are set exactly over the hill !!!

More Aleksey. Much more .... and physical ... that is. of our assembly and ... sets (they are also manufactured here) and they are already being assembled there and .. it seems to be how they were assembled, but that does not mean. what .. made?! +!

[nycsson]

Here read:
FGFA: PAK FA for India
October 5, 2011 | Views: 5509 | Print |
FGFA: PAK FA for India


In the fighter aircraft at the moment the most advanced is the so-called. fifth generation. Although its roots go back to the 80s of the last century, this newest generation of aircraft has not yet received widespread distribution. The only serial fighter attributed to it - the American F-22 Raptor - causes a lot of controversy. And not only an economic or operational plan. We often hear arguments appealing to flight data, they say, the fifth generation should accelerate to a supersonic sound, without using an afterburner. And the equipment of the American fighter raises many questions. But now the conversation is not about the Raptor generation.

However, at the beginning of 2000, India began negotiations with the Americans on the possibility of supplying F-22. But the United States neither then nor now have the desire to sell the latest fighter. The maximum that customers can hope for is the F-35, which even now is just being tested. Although the option with the F-35 was partially arranged for the Indian Air Force: a single-engine aircraft met their requirements, the matter did not go further than the negotiations.


At about the same time as the start of negotiations between India and the United States, the OKB Design Bureau. Sukhoi offered the Indians the option of jointly developing a fifth generation aircraft. It was proposed to use the existing developments on the topic, and the work carried out together on the basis of Russian enterprises. But representatives of the Indian aviation industry refused this option. Why it is not known, but, most likely, the matter is in the required costs for R & D and terms: the result of joint work will have to wait a few years, while the Americans have Raptor ready.

[timhelmet]

Great!
Amazing fighting vehicle! Patriotic!
You can say, dear!

[bamboo]

good news)))
and what generation does this machine belong to, who will tell ????
and how does it differ from the SU-34 ???

[Wedmak]

4 ++, speaking the language of the media. And different, so is the Su-34 front-line bomber, and this is a heavy multi-purpose fighter. And the layout is different.
And yes ... more, more !!!!

[Bashkaus]

4 ++ or still 5 with two minuses? ;)

[Wedmak]

Stupidity of course ... the pros, cons. ))) Moreover, such estimates are very vague. You can put 6 with four minuses ... Only the pluses look better! ))) More optimistic somehow.

[nycsson]

Quote: bambu

and how does it differ from the SU-34 ???

Su-34 bomber! And this is a fighter!

[bamboo]

Thank you very much for the explanation !!!!!!!
very grateful!

[nycsson]

Quote: bambu

Thank you very much for the explanation !!!!!!!
very grateful!

You're welcome!

[ShturmKGB]

I tried everything, the mood is good, the plane is good ... and in general, Friday!)

[sorrento]

and why only 30 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ???????

[nikoli25]

and why only 30 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ???????

if you buy more, then the amers will be absurd and will be flooded with ficals

[SSR]

probably because the 5th generation fighter should fly in to replace))

[commander]

No, this does not mean that there will be 30 of them in the Air Force. It is quite likely that such an option will be concluded more contracts for the 30th

[taseka]

Now restore the destroyed aviation schools, make a set - 100% and also put in the Air Force 1000 - 2000 aircraft of all makes and systems !!! Restore airfields - wow, breathtaking from the future !!!

[MI-AS-72]

Do not choke on your fantasies, there is no money to maintain what we have, we cannot provide a flight time of at least 100 hours per year for each pilot. Cadets for 5 years of study at the flight school and with a total flight time of an average of 120 .. 150 hours (thank God) have an independent flight time of 10 .. 15 hours. This is for helicopter pilots last year. And you better not know about the number of graduates. And then you will also be "bad".

[KOT-Pskov]

Really good news !!! And what is most pleasing is that they will be commissioned before 2015, and not as usual: it is planned by 2020 ....

[Shulz-1955]

They need 30 every week

[Dmitry Desnyansky]

And on 20 tanks

[Bashkaus]

in 1938, the Kharkov Steam Engine Plant produced 15 steam locomotives per month and 25 tanks of by-products (quote from one documentary)

[Yves762]

God knows there was no, but maybe someone is interested ...

[Sasha 19871987]

Yes, for 20 years, plainly aviation did not enter the ranks of the air fleet, this cannot but rejoice)

[Su24]

So who will say how the Su-30SM differs from the Su-30M2 that we previously purchased?

[nycsson]

Quote: Su24

So who will say how the Su-30SM differs from the Su-30M2 that we previously purchased?

Onboard equipment!

[VAF]

Quote: Su24

That's who will say how the Su-30SM differs from the Su-30M2

To many, because. "close" to the Su-27SM, and therefore they were sent 2 to the Crimea, and two to the Far East ... one in Dzemgah, and one in Ts.Uglovoy is used instead of twin. since there are no UBshek on SM-x.

And as a practically pure fighter, a bomber, or as it is now fashionable ... a multifunctional tactical fighter!

[Su24]

I do not understand what kind of aircraft is a clean IS? And I read that in Krymsk all 4 Su-30M2 (in the same squadron with 12 Su-27SM3).
And one more thing: our Su-30s are coming with PGO, no?

[VAF]

Quote: Su24

And I read that in Krymsk all 4 Su-30M2

don't always believe what they write!

Once again I repeat 2-a in Krymsk, 6972 AvB, aircraft number 10 and 30

and two in Dzemgi 5 AvGr 6983 AvB aircraft number 20 and number 40

[Su24]

Both in Dzemgi? You mentioned earlier that one of them is in Corner.

[Botanologist]

Your opinion, as an expert, is how many Su-34 we need at the European theater of operations (I’m afraid to even ask about the Far East). In the presence of, on the one hand, our air defense, on the other, Su-35 and, in the future, a few T-50 (I think we will have 20 units in Kaliningrad and Baltimore in total).

I will explain my question - the purchase of about 200 Su-34 of everything has been announced, and how will we supplement them in the case, as it was fashionable to say in the old days, of aggravation of international tension?

[Gemar]

Quote: Su24

how is the Su-30SM different from the Su-30M2

radar systems, radio communications and state recognition, an ejection seat and a number of supporting systems - the article says so .
I also read that the flight crew will be trained to take advantage of the super-maneuverability and new systems used on the Su-35BM and PAK-FA. Those. this is something in between the Su-30M2 and the Su-35BM (adjusted for the "singleness" of the latter.

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: Su24

So who will say how the Su-30SM differs from the Su-30M2 that we previously purchased?

You can also explain this option.
Modifications

Su-30K (commercial) is a commercial version of a two-seat fighter-interceptor based on the Su-27UB with in-flight refueling systems and satellite navigation (GPS).
Su-30MK (modernized, commercial) is a two-seat attack aircraft intended for export deliveries.
Su-30MKA (modernized, commercial, Algerian) - version of the Su-30MK for Algeria. Radar radar N011M [8]
Su-30MKI (modernized, commercial, Indian; Flanker-H) - version of Su-30MK for India. A multi-functional twin fighter with front horizontal tail and a thrust vector engine, with avionics produced within the framework of the international cooperation Russia-France-Israel-India , with the new N011M Bars radar with a passive phased array antenna (PFAR), and an expanded air-to-air and air-to-surface armament.
Su-30MKK (modernized, commercial, Chinese; Flanker-G) is the Su-30MK version for China. A twin fighter, without front horizontal tail, with enhanced capabilities for working on ground targets of the N001M radar has been modernized in the N001VE radar.
Su-30MK2 - an improved version of the Su-30MK.RLS N001 [8]
Su-30MKM (modernized, commercial, Malaysian) - version of the Su-30MK for Malaysia. Based on the version of the Su-30MKI. Radar radar N011M [8]
Su-30MKV (modernized, commercial, Venezuelan) - version of the Su-30MK2 for Venezuela.
Su-30M2 - version of the Su-30MK2, designed for the Russian Air Force. In 2010, factory flight tests of the first serial Su-30M2 were completed [9]
Su-30SM - the modernized Su-30MKI, designed for the Russian Air Force.
Su-30KN (commercial) - a two-seat fighter based on the Su-30K with an upgraded composition of avionics and radar with an additional autonomous radar channel. A-737 receiver of satellite navigation system with support for GLONASS and NAVSTAR was installed. A calculator has been added to the N001 radar station for new operating modes (mapping the earth's surface and selecting moving targets). In both cockpits of the aircraft, the television screens of direct visibility indicators were replaced by liquid crystal displays MFI-55, subsequently by MFI-68. An MVK computer was added to the weapon control system (LMS) to interface the LMS with new guided missiles of the air-to-air and air classes -Earth".

Foreign-made equipment is widely used on export modifications of the Su-30 - on-board computers, navigation equipment, etc. The Sukhoi Design Bureau collaborates with suppliers from France, India, and Israel.

[saturn.mmm]

Cool aircraft here is interesting in the video Su-30SM or Su-3 M2

[Mr.Fox]

Quote: Su24

So who will say how the Su-30SM differs from the Su-30M2 that we previously purchased?

Su-30SM - converted for the Russian Air Force version of the export for India) Su-30MKI. And the Su-30M2 is a variant capable of delivering air-to-ground strikes and other high-precision weapons.
Correct if I am mistaken.

[VAF]

Quote: Mr.Fox

Correct if I am mistaken.

Correct, the Su-30 SM is the same .. designed to work on the ground, differences in avionics and engines! Well, in the glider .. a bit, of course, in self-propelled guns and ESDS, well, in SUV, etc.! +!

[Gemar]

Rummaged through the Internet. I can not find information on the engines. What will change there? Traction vector control system?
I read, once for AL-31F we created a completely electronic control system, edge will work up to 4000 hours.
Tell me, please!

[nycsson]

Quote: Gamar

Rummaged through the Internet. I can not find information on the engines. What will change there? Traction vector control system?
I read, once for AL-31F we created a completely electronic control system, edge will work up to 4000 hours.
Tell me, please!

I think that these aircraft are fundamentally no different! The filling is a little better!

[Antipetian]

Can’t you tell me, so what about Pakfa and me? Will the Indians buy or organize this business at home? What are your thoughts?

[nycsson]

Quote: Antipetian

Can’t you tell me, so what about Pakfa and me? Will the Indians buy or organize this business at home? What are your thoughts?

No idea! He was still not enough to push over the hill !!!

[Antipetian]

Yes, it seems they shouldn’t, the last thing I heard from Pak Fa is that the Indians not will create a double version on its basis - this is 100%. But there is no specific information, although India seems to be "in a share"

[nycsson]

Quote: Antipetian

Yes, it seems they should not, the last thing I heard from Pak Fa is that the Indians will not create a two-seater version on its basis - this is 100%. But there is no specific information, although India seems to be "in a share"

Go up, I posted an article there! And read, did not have time to do, but have already sold !!!

[Su24]

T-50 and version for India are different planes. To prevent the Indians from happening there (even if they even close the FGFA program at all) this will not affect the PAK FA.

[Su24]

You guys can't do that. The fact that these two models differ in the composition of the avionics, and so I guess. Here's how to understand "Su-30SM - a modernized Su-30MKI designed for the Russian Air Force"? On MKI imported equipment, on ours can only be domestic, that is, as well as on the Su-30M2. Nevertheless, this is not M2, but SM.
On engines, how is the difference, is it not in both cases the AL-21FP?

[Onotollah]

The trend, however, is emerging with the supply of new equipment. What can not but rejoice.

[Antipetian]

Yeah! Now they’ll bring Pakfu - then we’ll live! We would have to work with this matter faster, otherwise the Air Force is not in the best form right now.

[Alex 81]

Joseph Visarionych on ministers and their advisers not !!!! A pity .... so it would not be 30, but 300 units ordered b ...

But at the moment, at least these 30, but ours ....

[st. michman]

As I understand it, this is just a series for military trials. This is the first limited edition option. The second idea is that these Planes are actually! and don’t need much. The Su-30 was originally intended to be used as a leading aircraft, the so-called air command post.

[Antipetian]

Well, I wouldn't say. The Su-30 itself is something of a multifunctional fighter. As for command and coordination - for this you need AWACS or "land". It's just that the Su-27 was not originally planned for strikes on the ground. Soviet doctrine in principle denied "multifunctional" aircraft and the Su-27 is a rather vivid example, while the Su-30 embodies that very functionality. This is the whole trick in his popularity abroad, which he speaks of VAF

[st. michman]

And this, including agreeing unconditionally, but I'm talking a little about something else.

[Antipetian]

About what? Do not understand a little bit. It is unlikely that in the modern World Bank there is such a concept of "leader", for how many years I have been interested - I have never heard such a thing. Still, "coordination and command" is carried out as if "from the outside"

[st. michman]

“When signing the contract, the head of the Russian military department Anatoly Serdyukov said that the arrival of the Su-30SM in the Armed Forces would significantly increase the combat power of the Russian Air Force. an increase in the volume of purchases of new generation military aircraft. " Does Serdyukov perceive the Su-30 as a training aircraft? I wonder how this is how 30 planes until 2015. will be able to significantly increase the combat power of the Russian Air Force. Particleboard is exactly made of sawdust.

[Antipetian]

He most likely means simply updating the Air Force fleet. For training, we have both the Yak-130 and Elki and UShshki.
In general, here it is most likely about increasing flight hours, and not training cadets

[st. michman]

He means the whole army

[torpxxx]

Lord what is 30 aircraft ???? What are they good for? This is for 3-4 hours of war with the middle state! Dwarf states with a population of the same prefecture of Moscow buy 50-70 cars ... This handout is just a mockery.

[Antipetian]

Do not worry! We have already signed here and now have signed contracts for a number of aviation equipment! What are the Su-35 and T-50 alone?

[st. michman]

The T-50 has yet to be refined and refined, and the Su-35 is already the second aircraft with this name, there was not enough money for the first version in the "golden" 2s. This technique is really good on paper though.
It’s funny 30-Su-30, 100-Yak-130, 19-Tu-160 (the digits from the bulldozer are taken, but something like that comes out) and super-good spending on the Air Force - training and preparing pilots for all flying vehicles in the amount of 10 people. The army will work !!!

[Su24]

You need to be more interested in military news. There are new or upgraded aircraft, and there will be much more:
Su-24M2 - 48 units.
Su-25SM - 40 units.
Su-27SM - 100 units.
Su-27SM3 - 12 units.
Su-30M2 \ SM - 34 units.
Su-34 - 124 units
Su-35 - 48.
MiG-29 - 58 units.
MiG-31BM - 60 units.
Yak-130 - 55 units.
Those. at least 579 tactical aviation units. This is not counting new contracts starting in 2015.

[Wedmak]

Something you have strange numbers ... I found others. At times different.

[Commodus]

These are already available and which you still want to receive. Mig 31 modernization has almost just begun, 35 have not even gone into the series yet, 34 have just gone, etc., in short, do not confuse plans with existing ones.

[nycsson]

Quote: Su24

Su-34 - 124 units

How many??? In Voronezh, only the second squadron is formed !!!

[Su24]

And you carefully read:
"There are new or modernized aircraft, and there will be many more."

[Windbreak]

Quote: torpxxx

Dwarf states with a population of the same prefecture of Moscow buy 50-70 cars ...

And what kind of countries are these?

[Alex 241]

I think the real numbers under the stamp of state secrets, but what they give us is for ordinary people.

[Wedmak]

Even if you take the Su-34

Su-34 - 124 units

um .... from open sources - there are only 22, moreover, serial 15.

[Commodus]

The plans until 2020-124 pcs.

[Su24]

read carefully

[Alex 241]

But what, beautiful reporting 124 is three regiments, and who will count them there? Everything is beautiful and not intricate. She will endure paper, Gliding on the General Staff flooring is not dust in the desert to swallow.

[PC-36M]

Well, we’ll cross out plans, now there are no plans ... has life become better?

[expert2008]

As far as I remember, under Grachev, there was no talk of buying anything new at all ... Grozny included "consolidated divisions" from all over Russia .... or, more simply, boys dressed in "something", on "something" , with the connection "about nothing" ... Do not rot God, now, not then ....

[RUS-36]

30 aircraft until 2015 ..... laughter through tears .... but at least so ....

[Lucky man]

Already the first photos appeared
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/337249.html

[v53993]

The news is pleasing and at the same time alarming; the presence of Serdyukov in this case is alarming.