Where and how did Russian gold really go?

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At the end of last year, colleague Alexey Podymov asked in his article Tell the truth: where is our gold reserve? a question to which now there will be, if not an answer, then some addition. And I will constantly refer to this material, because there are both questions and a competent approach to the topic.

In his material, a colleague announced the figure of 240 tons of gold, which is gone. Mostly to the UK. However, perhaps the most important thing is not where the gold went (although this is also important), but how it went. And how much.



We stopped at the moment that in 2019, the Central Bank, led by one of the best leaders in the world of such structures (according to the British) Nabiullina, first sharply reduced (almost by half, to 42%) the purchase of gold from fishers, and in 2020 completely stopped buying.

It is worth noting here that if we look back at the level of 1993, when modern Russia practically began, we will see that the gold reserve was only 267,28 tons according to www.global-finances.ru. On the official website of the Central Bank, the figures are the same, but there it is more and more difficult, since international assets are considered all at once and in dollars.

Somewhere at the turn of 2008, a more or less noticeable purchase of gold by the Central Bank began, and since 2013, a steady increase in gold reserves by about 200 tons per year has been demonstrated. That is, in fact, for the entire gold mining of Russia.

And thus, by 2020, Russia's gold reserves amounted to 2 tons. On this, apparently, the Central Bank decided to stop. Or a command came to stop buying gold, which, by the way, is the same thing.

Here it is worth mentioning one event that greatly influenced everything. 2018 is the year when investments in US government bonds were minimized. A lot has been written about this, everyone paid attention to these events. But few people really had an idea for what and how these papers were sold.

In general, it is possible to sell / present US government bonds to the States themselves. But for 90% you will be provided with new bonds, and 10% yes, you can get it in a more significant form. Naturally, our bonds, which began to be dumped, were sold at a decent discount.

Of course, there is no exact information on where they went and in exchange for what Russian bonds of the US government debt. The secret behind ten seals and subscriptions.

There is, however, indirect information on China. From 1977 to 1999, China's gold reserves amounted to 395 tons, and this figure was practically unchanged. Then a period of growth in gold reserves began, and now China has 1948 tons of this metal.

Around 2006, China began buying up gold on the domestic market and building up its reserves. Considering that China's gold mining industry is capable of producing about 30 tons of metal per year, it is clear that not all of the gold was bought up.

In general, it makes no sense to buy all the gold, banks consume it to mint their coins and create their own “cushion”, a large amount of gold goes to the jewelry market of any country.

Some experts, like Matt Winsley of Agora Financial, believe that China is deliberately understating its reserves. And today China has at least 3 tons of gold.

Around the same time as the growth of gold reserves began, China began actively buying US bonds. Here the interests of the two countries coincided. Around 2014. Russia, which was hit by a stream of sanctions, began to get rid of US government debt bonds. A very sensible move, we all approved of it. And China, on the contrary, began to actively buy up these bonds, and in huge quantities.

As a result, as we know, today China is the largest holder of US government debt and, together with Japan, makes up the leading pair. The US owes more than $1 trillion to both countries.

Interestingly, it turns out that Russia is getting rid of US bonds and the country believes that everything is going as it should. China was actively buying bonds and they also believed that everything was just fine.

And what is most interesting, both countries ensured their security and independence. Just each in their own way. Russia moved away from US bonds, the payments on which could easily be sanctioned, China ensured its security by accumulating US debt.

Today, the PRC is developing quite calmly, having as protection not only the army and navy, but also a hefty package of US bonds, which can protect very effectively if something happens.

It is clear that just in China there are enterprises owned by the Americans and which they can lose if they present debt obligations for payment. That is, the Chinese have something to grab from the United States on their territory.

Given that America did not spoil Russia with plants and factories, it was easier for us to get rid of pieces of paper. Even by exchanging them for gold.

Yes, gold today is not like a hundred years ago. But anyway, this is one of those things without which the state is not quite a state.

But back to Russia.

We still have a gold mining industry. And she is able to extract about 300 tons of gold per year. And something needs to be done with this pile of gold, because if you leave everything as it is, the precious metal mining industry will simply die.

Yes, the jewelry industry will take some. Another is radio electronics. But in what state we have the latter, I think it is not necessary to say.

Many expressed dissatisfaction with the fact that the Central Bank of the Russian Federation stopped buying gold and putting it in its vaults.

Let's really think, is it necessary? 2300 tons is a lot. This is quite a lot, Russia is among the top ten countries in terms of the availability of gold.

When the indistinct viral events began around the world, gold, as expected, rose in price. It always rises in price during such periods of uncertainty. This is fine. In 2009, the Central Bank bought gold at 1300-1400 dollars per troy ounce, today it sells for 1800.

But the main concern was not the sale of gold, but the cessation of its purchase. Indeed, if the Central Bank stops buying metal from miners, this can have a very negative impact on the gold mining industry as a whole, since after all the Central Bank is the main buyer.

And as a result, a very strange move turned out: instead of conducting transactions with gold itself through the Central Bank, the Russian government, represented by Prime Minister Mishustin, allowed industrialists to sell gold abroad directly, bypassing the Central Bank and commercial banks.

The government allowed producers to export gold under general licenses.

As you can see, everything is official and with the knowledge of the highest officials of the state.

And Russian gold did not go or flowed - it flew abroad. Various sources (RIA News, TASS, Forbes, links at the end of the article) indicate that at least 2019 tons of gold were exported from Russia in 2021-700.

And most importantly: now the sellers are not only able to independently sell gold abroad to anyone, but last year Putin also allowed not to return foreign exchange earnings from the sale of gold to Russia.

Putin signed a law on the abolition of the repatriation of foreign exchange earnings

And so what do we get?

By the way, this scenario is interesting: out of 700 tons of gold sold, 220 tons went where you think? To the UK! Yes, many will now say that this is just a trading hub for precious metals in general and stuff like that. But this is still the same Great Britain, which is so loved by our fellow citizens from among the members of the government and the oligarchs who are not there, as a springboard for themselves, children and grandchildren.

However, in the light of Putin's signed decree, everything looks somehow not very nice. I'm not inventing anything, Rossiyskaya Gazeta is the mouthpiece of the government.

If you carefully read a short note about Putin's decree, then the following conclusions can be drawn from it: now it will become very easy for Russian miners of gold and diamonds to sell their products abroad. Previously, the state obliged all proceeds to be credited to accounts in Russian banks, now the currency from the sale of gold can be immediately credited to accounts in any banks convenient for the buyer and use the money at your discretion. Absolutely without any control from the state.

And yes, this money can be invested in anything. There, behind the cordon.

Well, if you look at all this from the side of a simple layman, then Mr. President simply legalized the export of capital from the country. To offshore, to foreign banks, anywhere. That is, now what they fought so hard against is legalized.

More precisely, they pretended to fight, because no one began to return money from abroad to the country, it was not exported for that. And given that the decree covers such non-primary resources as:
- copper, nickel, aluminum, lead, zinc, tin, gold;
- diamonds, precious and semi-precious stones;
- grain;
- furs, leather, raw wood;
- ores and minerals, then some things become clear. Pretty nasty.

Speaking in Russian, now it will be easier for Russian companies to sell resources abroad. Previously, the proceeds had to first be transferred to accounts in Russia. Now they can simply transfer money to a foreign account and immediately start using it at their own discretion.

The state media, by the way, somehow did not arrange a joyful yelling about another wise indulgence for entrepreneurs. “RG” can be understood, they are obliged to publish documents. But this decree even sounds so that at the first moment you won’t understand why.

And the funniest thing. The State Duma headed by Volodin "suddenly" attended to the sale of gold. And the sale of timber. Abroad, of course.

The sale of the forest seems to have been stopped, but how much does it cost now, when for many years caring people have been shouting about the fact that forests are being felled under the roots? Everything, now the process will go differently.

Now the Duma is interested in the "golden stream" that is leaving Russia. In general, it is interesting that they see each other there more often than we see the president on TV. And everyone is unaware. Now, in order for the communist Kolomiytsev to get rid of, Volodin instructed him to make a request to the Central Bank. And then they will consider.

So, a draft protocol order will be drawn up, reviewed, agreed upon with the relevant State Duma committee on the financial market, approved and sent to the Central Bank and the government. And they will respond in a timely manner.

Do you feel the hard work ahead?

Of course, none of this will really work. Gold will go to the West, to those who buy it, because the IMF, which manages the Russian (not ours) Central Bank, ordered so and Putin allowed it.

Everything would be fine, and moving away from American "securities" is a good thing, and buying up gold, which has been going on for 20 years, is also good. But the fact that this is done by the same people who today organize a massive outflow of valuable resources from the country under the guise of developing entrepreneurship, the same people who yesterday contributed to the collapse of the industry, saying that "it's easier to buy in the West" - this is somehow not evokes positive emotions.

On the other hand, gold and diamonds, which today go to the West, we, the population of Russia, have nothing to do with them. This is not our gold, this is not our diamonds, this is not our forest. Alas, this is a given that no one will change once the Constitution is rewritten. What the last change of this document showed.

So the question of Podymov’s colleague “Where is our gold reserve” is likely to hang in the air.

The gold reserve of the Russian state is administered by the Bank of Russia, which is not a Russian bank. This, let me remind you, is a legal entity about which we know nothing. No authorized capital, no property, no founders.

The exchange rate of the ruble speaks best of all about how effectively the Central Bank of the Russian Federation fulfills its duties. But this is a subject for a separate discussion.

In the meantime, the bottom line is that Russian gold, everything that is mined, will go to replenish the bins of other states.
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  1. +10
    29 January 2022 05: 16
    Bank of Russia, which is not a Russian bank. This, let me remind you, is a legal entity about which we know nothing. No authorized capital, no property, no founders.


    This is where I don't quite agree.

    Today's main banking institution of the country is not subordinate, but rather interacts with the same state. For the Central Bank reports on its activities to the State Duma. In state ownership - the authorized capital, all other assets of the Central Bank. On its activities, the Central Bank annually sends reports to the State Duma - on losses, incomes. In addition, these reports must be published in the media. And the Central Bank is required by law to give part of its profits to the budget. So, about the complete independence of the Central Bank from the state, especially with regard to its activities in order to earn profit, one still has to speak conditionally.
    Moreover, according to Article 5 of the law "On the Central Bank of the Russian Federation (Bank of Russia), the head of the Central Bank is appointed to and removed from office on the proposal of the President of the Russian Federation by the State Duma. And this is actual control over the Bank of Russia.
    1. +9
      29 January 2022 08: 18
      Yes, there's a lot to disagree with.
      Naturallythat our bonds that started to drop, sold at a hefty discount.
      Accurate information according to where they went and in exchange for what the Russian bonds of the US government debt, naturally no. The secret behind ten seals and subscriptions

      Author .... Did you eavesdrop? Or were you watching?
      And then I see here, I don’t see here, but here they wrapped the herring laughing
    2. +66
      29 January 2022 08: 32
      Gold goes abroad and money flows like a river there. For 30 years now, the export of capital has been one of the most difficult problems of a sick state. And how much of that money was taken out, no one knows. But the numbers are huge anyway - ranging from 1 to 3 trillion. Dollars, of course. There are our stolen pensions, unbuilt aircraft carriers and much more that the people need.

      Someone with no alternative has been building an incomprehensible stability for 22 years, at times promising roars and breakthroughs. But he does not understand or does not want to understand simple things. Money is invested in a dynamically developing economy. And money is flowing out of a depressed economy. That is, exports exceed imports. Which, in fact, has been happening in our sub-kingdom for decades. Promising prosperity without fixing a difficult problem is brazenly lying or not understanding the elementary.
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      2. -15
        29 January 2022 12: 45
        "Foreign direct investment in Russian companies in 2021 amounted to $30,7 billion." The withdrawal of capital is not only private profits, but also profits and dividends of foreign investors, but also a means of servicing the public debt and everything else.
        "But the numbers are huge anyway - ranging from 1 trillion to 3 trillion." These figures were taken from the ceiling. There are no exact data, as well as a calculation.
        1. +24
          29 January 2022 15: 40
          Quote: Vadim237
          These figures were taken from the ceiling. There are no exact data, as well as a calculation.

          The Central Bank will not agree with you.
          Capital outflow from Russia by years: 1994 - 2021 (data of the Central Bank, in billion USD)

          1994 - 12,7 1995 - 7,8 1996 - 22,4 1997 - 18,4 1998 - 22,6 1999 - 19,6 2000 - 23,1 2001 - 13,6 2002 - 7,0 2003 - 0,3 2004 - 8,6 2005 - 0,3 2008 - 133,6 2009 - 57,5 2010 - 30,8 2011 - 81,4 2012 – 53,9 2013 – 60,3 2014 – 152,1 2015 – 57,1 2016 – 18,5 2017 – 24,1 2018 – 65,5 2019 – 22,6 2020 – 50,4 2021 – 72,0
          Total for 1994-2021 - 1 billion dollars. This is only official.
          1. -4
            30 January 2022 16: 36
            So more clearly
            and apparently you have capital withdrawal data along with portfolio investments - short-term and we should not forget that now Russia has almost 400 billion dollars invested in foreign projects, the law of a market economy is not to keep all your eggs in one basket.
            1. +6
              30 January 2022 17: 33
              Quote: Vadim237
              and you apparently have data on the withdrawal of capital along with portfolio investments

              May be. I didn't find any specific information. But the figure of $1 trillion+ withdrawn only offshore is confirmed, among other things, by the Central Bank:
              Over the past 25 years, $ 750 billion have been withdrawn from Russia to offshore companies, for which “it was possible to find a better use,” Bloomberg estimated in 2019. Six years earlier, the former head of the Central Bank, Sergei Ignatiev, had given a close assessment. Over a quarter of a century, Russian banks have cashed out or moved offshore about $1 trillion, he said in 2013. In recent years, "bleeding has slowed but not stopped," notes Bloomberg. The Bell analyzed the available statistics and found that the volume of suspicious cross-border transactions had indeed decreased, but the authorities still failed to stop the flight of capital and force businesses and citizens to return it to their homeland.

              Quote: Vadim237
              do not forget that now Russia has almost 400 billion dollars invested in foreign projects

              How many of them are in the West, with whom we have "very friendly" relations? No matter how the basket of eggs is taken away ...
      3. +9
        29 January 2022 15: 21
        What are the words after this, about all sorts of confrontations, so the game is for the masses.
      4. +2
        31 January 2022 09: 53
        The Central Bank stopped buying gold in 2021 (~210 tons)
        for that, in the National Welfare Fund 35% of dollars were transferred into gold (~400 tons)
        and yes, no money. wassat
        https://www.rbc.ru/economics/03/06/2021/60b901f79a79473cf543a1cd
    3. -10
      29 January 2022 12: 30
      "And the Central Bank is obliged by law to give part of the profits it receives to the budget." - 98% of their profits. And so the Central Bank belongs to and is subordinate to the state and the IMF is only advisory in nature for it - the IMF is of an executive nature for those who take loans from it, but Russia now does not take loans from the IMF and does not owe anything.
      1. +1
        31 January 2022 11: 16
        And so the Central Bank belongs to and is subordinate to the state and the IMF is only advisory in nature for it - the IMF is of an executive nature for those who take loans from it, but Russia now does not take loans from the IMF and does not owe anything.

        What is the interest rate on loans?
        Maybe like in Austria or Germany?
  2. +36
    29 January 2022 05: 23
    This is apparently such patriotism - Europe's currency, gold and other resources, promises to us from the screen and horror stories of the Russian-Ukrainian war.
    1. +4
      29 January 2022 05: 28
      We know that we don't know anything.
      1. +2
        29 January 2022 05: 45
        But this decree even sounds so that at the first moment you won’t understand why.

        Quote: Aerodrome
        we know we don't know anything

        But if it flies like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it must be a hippopotamus? There is no need to flatter yourself about the clairvoyance, omniscience and the presence of the "greatest" plans for the world domination of the authorities.
        1. +28
          29 January 2022 08: 16
          I remember that Stepashin tried to find out how much and where our gold and foreign exchange reserves are actually located, and most importantly, under what conditions (that is, who is their real beneficiary), and instantly got a turn from the gate - like don’t go where you shouldn’t , this is the strictest state secret and there is nothing to check there, get out, be content with official reporting. So, what can happen (and many indirect facts speak for this) that Russia generally does not have any gold and foreign exchange reserves and reserves - all these reserves and reserves can be in the introduction of special funds, on special conditions, and only funds can dispose of all these resources. This was done in order to remove the gold reserves from the jurisdiction of the state and, if necessary, certain persons could painlessly and quite officially dispose of these funds for their own purposes or privatize them.
          And in general, our financial system is arranged in such a way that the state has nothing and to finance its existence of all its programs, including military ones, it takes a loan from the Central Bank! That is, the state of Russia is practically a beggar. wink
          1. -7
            29 January 2022 08: 25
            Quote: Snail N9
            the state has nothing and to finance its existence, it takes a loan from the Central Bank! That is, the state of Russia is practically a beggar.

            The dog knows him. But maybe that's how it's meant to be. If anything, then there is nothing to take from the beggar. In principle, this is a tracing paper with the United States, they are also beggars, they take a loan from the Fed.
          2. -11
            29 January 2022 12: 48
            What indirect facts of yours say that Russia generally does not have any gold and foreign exchange reserves and reserves - again infa OBS.
            1. +2
              29 January 2022 14: 09
              Quote: Vadim237
              What indirect facts of yours say that Russia generally does not have any gold and foreign exchange reserves and reserves - again infa OBS.

              Uh... Excuse me, are you asking me? If I have, then I did not say that. I said:
              But maybe it's meant to be

              And that doesn't mean they don't exist.
    2. +18
      29 January 2022 08: 56
      Quote: fiberboard
      This seems to be patriotism.

      This is reality.
      Everything else is a sign.
      Mr. President simply legalized the export of capital from the country. To offshore, to foreign banks, anywhere. That is, what they fought so hard with is now legalized.

      And we are here about possible ways to solve the demographic, educational and other problems of the state, and they are thinking about completely different "problems" there. This is the fundamental difference...
      1. -12
        29 January 2022 10: 25
        But no one paid attention that when these 240 tons flowed to England (more precisely, to Venezuela), then the demands of this country, Venezuela, to the Bank of England ceased. So maybe there was just an exchange of gold (assignment of physical volumes) and the Venezuelan gold in the Bank of England now belongs to Russia and will now simply be returned back? Did the Russian part go to the bank of Venezuela?
        It's just that it won't be announced until a certain point.
        So what about international financial and gold exchange
        exchanges, information about the nuances of which are known to a very limited circle of people, we are here) without proper information is not worth it.
        And yet - you can’t spread gold on bread. It should not only be stored, but also fulfill its function as a universal equivalent in trade.
        1. -12
          29 January 2022 12: 56
          It's easier
          "What is the reason for the change in the policy of the Central Bank of Russia?

          Due to the pandemic, there was a sharp drop in world oil and gas prices, for the first time in history, their prices went negative for several days, plus the cost of fighting the pandemic. As a result, the budget deficit amounted to more than 4 trillion rubles. And ahead is the 2nd wave of the pandemic and the intensification of the global economic crisis. In addition, gold prices on the world market began to rise sharply, exceeding $2.000 per troy ounce (31.1 grams) for the first time in history. Now they are in the region of 1.840 dollars. And at the beginning of 2020, the price of gold was less than $1.600.

          The sharp increase in gold sales in 2019, compared to previous years, to 120 tons from 10-15 tons, is also associated with an increase in the price of gold on the world market and low oil and gas prices. "We simply sold gold at a high price and compensated for losses from falling oil and gas prices in the budget.
          1. +5
            29 January 2022 14: 18
            А ahead of the 2nd wave of the pandemic and the intensification of the global economic crisis.

            at the beginning of 2020, the price of gold was less than $1.600.

            Sharp increase in gold sales in 2019

            Excuse me, but what dusty chest are you getting this from? Now outside the window of 2022. I have such a feeling that on our site, the adept agents of two idle offices simply live, instead of doing their direct duties. This is me about the Central Bank and Roskosmos, if anything.
            1. -2
              30 January 2022 16: 41
              Once again, read carefully what was written above - gold began to rise in price, the Central Bank began to sell, and as the pandemic broke out, the budget missed funds, so they decided to cover the deficit by selling gold - everything that was mined in 2020 and mined in 2021.
        2. +5
          29 January 2022 15: 48
          Something like that, I don't remember exactly. "O Raja, you have mixed my gold with yours. Well, how can I now distinguish my gold from yours. And I will not give my gold to anyone, I will not give it to anyone."
          1. -3
            30 January 2022 16: 41
            There is a mark on our gold - you can't confuse it.
    3. +5
      29 January 2022 10: 15
      Quote: fiberboard
      This is apparently such patriotism - Europe's currency, gold and other resources, promises to us from the screen and horror stories of the Russian-Ukrainian war.

      This is almost the definition of patriotism)
    4. +2
      30 January 2022 00: 55
      ...Yes! And "......you hold on"...
  3. +7
    29 January 2022 06: 18
    Financial rivers, streams and dams, This is very difficult to understand. Of course, all this water pays taxes. China has invested in the US national debt. And he receives interest from this. Otherwise, what would be the benefit of doing such operations. There should be a reason for everything. If you sold gold, shares, other securities, you need to put this proceeds into action. Sometimes strange things happen. It seems that the main company in the country is engaged in supplying gas to residential buildings. But what if a gas line of a private company passes through the houses? Turns out you have to ask for permission. I wonder what other objects are owned by private companies? Maybe the state will soon play the role of an intermediary?
  4. +22
    29 January 2022 06: 21
    This, let me remind you, is a legal entity about which we know nothing. No authorized capital, no property, no founders.

    One thing is clear, the Central Bank of the Russian Federation has nothing to do with saving and increasing the so-called state treasury. It's some organization that sets the rules for speculation...
    Only a huge number of banks with their branches, branches and ATMs explains the true state of things, when money is made out of thin air (!!!) in clean shirts with starched collars, and those who create products stand with outstretched hands, tied with credit bondage.
    Today we have touched only the visible part of the perverted Russian economy. Why did no one have any questions, how long we - the citizens of the richest country should live according to the residual principle, watching how ghouls brazenly rob our land. Greedy, slippery, without conscience, shame and pity...
    1. +4
      29 January 2022 10: 18
      Today we have touched only the visible part of the perverted Russian economy. Why did no one have any questions, how long we - the citizens of the richest country should live according to the residual principle, watching how ghouls brazenly rob our land. Greedy, slippery, without conscience, shame and pity...


      Russia has not been the richest country for a long time, look at the list of countries by export, Russia is in the second ten https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/exports-by-country and little Singapore exports more than Russia with its gold, oil, gas.
      1. +22
        29 January 2022 10: 25
        Quote: ViacheslavS
        Russia has not been the richest country for a long time

        Russia was and (so far !!!) is the richest in terms of natural and climatic zones, soils, area, minerals and natural resources, fresh water reserves ... It's a pity that a bunch of arrogant money-grubbers turned it into their feeder and "soars" the brains of the population about a successful life and a happy tomorrow.
        1. +3
          29 January 2022 10: 31
          Russia was and (so far!!!) is the richest in terms of natural and climatic zones, soils, area, minerals and natural resources, fresh water reserves ...

          Many people have resources, this is no surprise to anyone in our world. With today's globalization and markets, resource providers will supply you with virtually any resource, anywhere on the planet. But whatever stepper (lithograph) is made by one or two countries in the world, and little Holland, with its population, exports 500 billion dollars, and Russia, with all the resources, 300 billion dollars.
          1. +9
            29 January 2022 10: 34
            Quote: ViacheslavS
            Many people have resources, this is no surprise to anyone in our world.

            Wow? This is if you live on credit all the time. And when it comes to the situation in which you need to warm up and eat, all these steppers (lithographs), gold jewelry and even Faberge eggs take the price of a bucket of coal and a bag of flour (rice).
            1. +3
              29 January 2022 12: 06
              And when it comes to the situation in which you need to warm up and eat, all these steppers (lithographs), gold jewelry and even Faberge eggs take the price of a bucket of coal and a bag of flour (rice).


              Talk about how Europe freezes, and even Ukraine without our gas, I heard somewhere from the age of 14. As for food, there is also the question of who is more dependent on whom in terms of food.
              1. +9
                29 January 2022 12: 27
                I don't know what you eat, but I only buy local products.
                It is to this aspect that I have tried to draw your attention. You are reducing everything to some incomprehensible examples ...
                Yes. Europe is not freezing, but gas is still standing there today ... Can you tell me how much?
                Here, in Altai, they learned to grow black tomatoes (I bought only them all summer). In winter, I have to turn to Azerbaijani brothers (tomatoes), Jewish brothers (dates, peppers) and Moldavian brothers (apples) for help ... Therefore, I can do without imports ...
                You cannot even imagine how easy it is to live in retirement for us - ordinary Russians. No problem with choice and different black fridays...
                stop Yes. Last year I had to buy a new bike - "WELS". But that doesn't count anymore. The Chinese are our neighbors. The main thing is that my eyes didn’t narrow from the prices, and the mechanic advised me not to bother.
                Talk about the fact that, with the right development, Russia is able to provide for itself and its partners, and not be a gas station...
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                Here Putin says that it is necessary to move from a resource-based economy to the development of high technologies. So let's remove at least two reasons that prevent this:
                - denominate the ruble;
                - reduce VAT (to zero)...
                Stop peddling banking speculation. Stop making fortunes on spreads and the difference in deposits and loans ... Nothing good comes out of this, no matter how hard Nabiullina and Gref try ...
                1. +8
                  29 January 2022 12: 35
                  Talk about the fact that, with the right development, Russia is able to provide for itself and its partners, and not be a gas station...


                  It goes without saying that if some Singapore or the Netherlands earn more than Russia, then in Russia, with "correct development", great results could be achieved.

                  Here Putin says that it is necessary to move from a resource-based economy to the development of high technologies. So let's remove at least two reasons that prevent this:
                  - denominate the ruble;
                  - reduce VAT (to zero)...


                  The main reason is just the presence of these resources, it is necessary to legally prohibit the export of "raw" resources.
                  1. +1
                    29 January 2022 12: 36
                    Quote: ViacheslavS
                    By itself

                    Quote: ViacheslavS
                    The main reason

                    good
                2. -2
                  29 January 2022 13: 43
                  Quote: yuriy55
                  So let's remove at least two reasons that prevent this:
                  - denominate the ruble;
                  - reduce VAT (to zero)...

                  1) the denomination will hit the citizens - automatically and regardless of everything else. It hit under the USSR, it hit under the Russian Federation, it will hit now ...
                  2) when importing goods into the Russian Federation, VAT is charged. Unlike tax, it is always charged and makes up a fairly decent part of the budget.
                  Do you propose to hit pensioners and doctors with a denomination, and then finish off with a cut-down social program?
                  1. +8
                    29 January 2022 15: 03
                    Quote: your1970
                    the denomination will hit the citizens

                    Where did you get it from? The last denomination, when everyone stopped being millionaires, what hit? Prior to that, she was with the NSH. So they really suffered there, because:
                    As a result of the reform, the dollar exchange rate, which was 1961:1 before 4, was changed not 10 times, like domestic prices and wages, but only 4,44 times, and after the reform it amounted to 90 kopecks per 1 dollar. In the same way, the gold content of the ruble was increased by 4,44 times: if before the reform it was 0,222168 g, then after the reform it was 0,987412 g.

                    Quote: your1970
                    when importing goods into the Russian Federation, VAT is charged

                    AND? Who is it taken from? There are many other ways to fill the budget. The most important is the progressive scale of personal income tax and the ban on registering enterprises in offshore companies. There is a shadow trade in counterfeit alcohol, tobacco, which can be transferred to a cashless settlement, which excludes profits from falling into a private pocket ... Excuse me, with the development of IT technologies, tax collection can simply be automated. You just need to reduce them...
                    Quote: your1970
                    Do you propose to hit pensioners and doctors with a denomination, and then finish off with a cut-down social program?

                    I propose to deal with the economy, not populism. They took care of the “one” about the people. stop Listen to these lamentations:
                    In the morning I smear a sandwich -
                    Immediately thought: what about the people?
                    And the caviar does not climb into the throat,
                    And compote does not pour into your mouth!

                    Here's a hard argument for you:
                    Article 20 Subject to its Constitution and the fundamental principles of its legal system, each State Party shall consider adopting such legislative and other measures as may be necessary to criminalize, when committed intentionally, illicit enrichment, .e. a significant increase in the assets of a public official in excess of his legal income, which he cannot reasonably justify

                    There is also a system of penalties ...
                    There is a luxury tax...
                    Taxation on land owned (leased), the area of ​​which exceeds 0,06 hectares (excluding agricultural land)
                    Tax on the second and subsequent housing (so that there are no 8 apartments in Moscow) ...
                    A sea of ​​\uXNUMXb\uXNUMXbactivity ... And what kind of money goes past the budget ...
                    1. +1
                      29 January 2022 15: 32
                      Quote: yuriy55
                      .Excuse me, with the development of IT technologies, tax collection can simply be automated.
                      -it’s possible ... that’s just a trouble - the collection of VAT by customs when importing goods was introduced in 2000 not from a well-fed life, but because THEN the tax could not recover - one-day firms evaporated.
                      Immediately after that, the FCS began to fill the budget by 60% ...
                      Quote: yuriy55
                      Taxation on land owned (leased), the area of ​​which exceeds 0,06 hectares (excluding agricultural land)
                      - exactly at this moment the villagers TOTAL Chernozem, Udmurtia, Bashkiria and the Ulyanovsk region - they will lift you up on a pitchfork. Simply because their plots are located within settlements and are not agricultural lands, but historically it has developed that the plots there are less than 0,3 (30 acres !!!!) ha are considered small. There, 0,5 hectares (50 acres) is commonplace ... They grow potatoes on them and feed the rest of the country .... and here you are with your 6 acres ...

                      By the way, I give you an idea - in the bulk of about 80% of these plots are not registered in the property and taxes are not paid for them at all .....
                      In our country, about 10% of housing and about 40% of land under housing have not been registered. Mostly rural, but also in cities...
                      People say "What for? Then you have to pay taxes!!"
                      an unplowed field for you, yeah ... but a hundred pounds will lift you on a pitchfork ...

                      ZY
                      IT will definitely find a non-existing legal object, yeah
                3. +8
                  29 January 2022 14: 02
                  gas is standing there today ... Can you tell me how much?
                  A week of gaslight will cost you the price of two or three packs of cigarettes. England.
                  1. -3
                    29 January 2022 15: 14
                    And is it worth renting lope? 15 rubles of utilities for heating, water, garbage disposal, gas for a khatynka 000 sq / m is normal! Real estate tax lope per year! For each family in a month, more than 85 pounds comes out, do you have children? hi Yes, and the Marlboro men in 2020, a pack cost 11,5 pounds. So it’s not very exaggerating, so to speak.
                    1. +5
                      29 January 2022 15: 18
                      I am not going to provide a financial history, I can only note that without problems (although without frills) we can live on one salary and postpone the second. In the 2018 pre-COVID year, visited 9 countries (tourists). And we are not the children of the oligarchs.
                      1. -2
                        29 January 2022 15: 32
                        Is that all? Tourism is not an indicator for us now. The main thing is real estate.
                      2. +5
                        29 January 2022 15: 36
                        We have not yet decided where we will live.
                        Tourism is not an indicator for us now. The main thing is real estate.
                        Not in England. But it is not a fact that we will need it here. How many streets do you have in London wassat ?
                      3. -3
                        29 January 2022 15: 48
                        Yes, a shed (framework) near London for 30 million rubles is not for me, I’m somehow in Sochi 180 squares, I’ll turn over in a stone! wassat
                      4. +5
                        29 January 2022 15: 50
                        My trouble is different - my wife wants to live in Montreal, and I'm in Sydney sad
                      5. 0
                        29 January 2022 16: 01
                        Listen to my wife, my friend first scratched for permanent residence in New Zealand, Australia, he says not for him and his family, these are cracoidols, white sharks (which the government protects, half the corpse is missing, so it’s not the sharks’ fault and most importantly the snakes, bitten you can drink whiskey , at least you’ll die drunk) I quickly got used to it, settled down and now already in Canada, with my whole family, according to a quota to dilute the French-speaking people. They had such a period, they wanted French independence. hi
                      6. +6
                        29 January 2022 16: 04
                        by quota to dilute the francophones
                        Haven't heard of this quote yet. On the contrary, it is easier for Francophones (wife of them) to settle there.
                        krakoidols
                        They kill far fewer people than encephalitis mites.
                      7. -1
                        29 January 2022 16: 18
                        They also run in Sochi, but so far God has mercy. Kill, bring this tick that bit you! Then we will treat, of course they can take our word for it and blow the vaccine. The quota was when they wanted to stir up a referendum in the French-speaking provinces, in the early 2000s. Referendum did not pass, so in this way they decided to dilute the lovers of all sorts of unnecessary referendums.
                      8. ANB
                        +2
                        29 January 2022 20: 36
                        . Permanent residence in Montreal, and I'm in Sydney sad

                        Offer her a neutral option - Melbourne. :)
                  2. +1
                    29 January 2022 15: 30
                    Quote: Bolt Cutter
                    A week of gaslight will cost you the price of two or three packs of cigarettes. England.

                    I do not understand your compassionate words - I do not smoke! About tobacco - here:
                    1. +6
                      29 January 2022 15: 32
                      And the fact that gas is not prohibitively expensive here, you know?
                      1. +2
                        29 January 2022 15: 37
                        Quote: Bolt Cutter
                        And the fact that gas is not prohibitively expensive here, you know?

                        I understand that tobacco is expensive in GB... a pack of cigarettes for our money is 1000 rubles... And salaries there are not 13 rubles a month... And GDP per capita is $890, not 48...
                        https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Список_стран_по_ВВП_(ППС)_на_душу_населения
                      2. +4
                        29 January 2022 15: 40
                        not 30 431
                        Real-11650 seems to be against the British one at 46200.
                        a pack of cigarettes for our money 1000 rubles.
                        1300. And nothing - the people are puffing only on the way.
                      3. -1
                        29 January 2022 15: 50
                        I am aware that until spring the gas ceiling will not be raised for you until you have an exceptional friendship.
                      4. +7
                        29 January 2022 15: 53
                        It's not about friendship, but about the decision of the government. They don’t let private traders rip off people - they don’t need competitors in this matter. But gas is supplied to the UK from almost everywhere (from Russia - 5% of consumption). We will cope with terrible frosts at +2 (now +13).
                      5. -1
                        29 January 2022 16: 07
                        I always said the British are the most cunning in Europe, the European Union. They muddied, and then merrily faded away. And now they are sitting on the island laughing. drinks
                      6. +6
                        29 January 2022 16: 10
                        And Rosneft has BP-20%. Everything is fair.
                      7. +1
                        29 January 2022 16: 25
                        And who will touch Sechin in England? drinks
                      8. +4
                        29 January 2022 16: 27
                        Why touch him?
                        european union.muddied
                        Belgium, Holland, Germany, France and Luxembourg in 1957. Britain taxied in 1973 only.
                      9. +1
                        29 January 2022 16: 57
                        I need to correct you, since 1957, on the basis of the Treaty of Rome, it was the European Community. And since 1992, after the Maastricht Treaty, it has already been the European Union. From 1981 to 1983 he served in the GSVG, NATO knew, the community knew, there was no union other than the USSR. every six months the same thing.
                      10. +2
                        29 January 2022 17: 18
                        European Community.
                        The European Economic Community, practically the EU - all the key principles are the same, without a central supra-government.
                      11. 0
                        29 January 2022 17: 26
                        I remember, I remember how terrorists used this in Europe when there was no central control.
                  3. 0
                    29 January 2022 19: 57
                    Yes, but where does all this talk about "energy poor" (or whatever they are called correctly) come from in the same England?
                    1. +3
                      29 January 2022 23: 25
                      In my experience, the poor here are those who doesn't want work. The topic is regularly raised by journalists and leftists with the onset of "cold weather" in order to convince the public that the government is bad.
                      They don’t go into details, otherwise the questions are immediately why a pensioner in his entire life (there were no revolutions and defaults here) did not earn anything at all and lives on social security. All who die in winter are recorded as victims of hypothermia - this winter, for example, there were bitter British frosts of +1. Now +12.
                      Once there was a failure - an Englishman Ahmed was shown on TV, who complained that he did not have enough to heat the apartment given to him for free, and he had to go in the morning and start the car to warm up in her cabin laughing .
                      And so such subsidies are issued.
                4. +7
                  29 January 2022 15: 19
                  Quote: yuriy55
                  Stop peddling banking speculation. Stop making fortunes on spreads and the difference in deposits and loans... Nothing good comes out of this, no matter how hard Nabiullina and Gref try.

                  But Nabiullina and Gref are happy, and are not going to stop
                5. 0
                  30 January 2022 20: 45
                  Only now, if you scrape, then the local becomes not very local. (
          2. -3
            29 January 2022 12: 10
            ...... There are many who have resources, this will not surprise anyone in our world
            . - these are the words of either an idiot or an enemy
            1. 0
              29 January 2022 13: 00
              In the extraction and processing of resources, there is also profitability if the costs of extraction, processing and transportation are higher than the cost of resources on the market - they will not deal with the above. The same applies to Russia.
          3. Alf
            +3
            29 January 2022 21: 01
            Quote: ViacheslavS
            resource providers will supply you with virtually any resource anywhere in the world.

            The only question is under what conditions and at what price.
  5. -4
    29 January 2022 06: 28
    By the way, about where the gold goes:
  6. +13
    29 January 2022 07: 09
    Roman, the gold reserve is not OURS, since it is so easily taken away from the country. Russia is only a place for collecting and storing gold, unfortunately. And, to the question of American sovereign debt, when the Japanese had accumulated a trillion dollars of it, they turned to the United States with a request to exchange debt obligations for dollars, and were refused in a very harsh form! So, all their obligations are not worth paper, on which they are written is a global deception! US debt is not secured by anything!
    1. +8
      29 January 2022 09: 39
      Legal Portal Finanz.
      President Vladimir Putin has relaxed currency control requirements for exporters of gold, metals and grains. From July 1, 2021, they may not return foreign exchange earnings to accounts in Russian banks. In 2020, the government allowed all mined gold to be exported from Russia. As a result, its exports increased by 160%. In turn, the sale of ferrous metals accounts for 10,5% of Russia's total export earnings, while grain exports reach $8 billion a year.


      Next.
      By law, exporters will be able not to credit foreign exchange earnings from exports to Russian accounts if their goods belong to separate groups from the single commodity nomenclature of the Eurasian Economic Union. For example, to group 7108, which includes monetary gold, in ingots and powder, in bars and in unworked form.
      In 2020, the government began issuing general licenses to miners to export gold, and the Central Bank refused to buy it into reserves. As a result, the volume of gold exports increased by 160%, and in monetary terms, exports gave more than $4 billion per quarter and reached $18,5 billion by the end of the year. In physical terms, 320 tons were sold - more than the companies mined (290 tons), as banks joined the sale. Metal exports, according to the Federal Customs Service, bring Russia 10,5% of all export earnings. In monetary terms, this is $35,5 billion in 2020. Copper, nickel, aluminium, lead, zinc and tin fall under the new law. Finally, grain brought in $2020 billion in 8,21. In addition, it will be possible to leave currency abroad for the sale of fur, leather, raw wood, diamonds, precious and semi-precious stones, ores and minerals.

      Explanation.
      The lack of repatriation of foreign exchange earnings to Russia makes it impossible to levy sales tax. I bought a license once, and send the mined gold and grown grain abroad, stack your personal well-being. But what about filling the country's budget? But like this! All new taxes on the population.
      But if we calculate the total cost of taxes per citizen, it turns out that only a narrow stratum of wealthy people is able to pay them, and the rest of the population will leave them. Exactly the same with fines.
      1. 0
        29 January 2022 10: 07
        Quote: depressant
        The lack of repatriation of foreign exchange earnings to Russia makes it impossible to levy sales tax. I bought a license once, and send the mined gold and grown grain abroad

        the license has nothing to do with taxes
        1. +7
          29 January 2022 11: 01
          It seems to be so, but not quite. A sale transaction, carried out necessarily through the bank of your country, is transparent to the tax authorities. A transaction through a foreign bank is quite another. Part of the transaction can be shown through a transparent bank, and the other part through a closed offshore. Naturally, the fiscals will demand a tax on what is shown in a transparent foreign bank. That is, from what the seller wished to show them. And even there was a general opinion of economists, they say, will the sellers start delaying the repatriation of the tax to Russia? Under various pretexts? Like, part of the grain, while being transported, lost its marketable condition, was written off. After all, they are loading almost raw grain! And part of the gold was stolen during transportation. Etc. The seller is resourceful in terms of concealing the proceeds. You can get it on your territory. And on someone else's? Try it! Who will do it? There is no mechanism.
          1. -2
            29 January 2022 11: 33
            Quote: depressant
            It seems to be so, but not quite. A sale transaction, carried out necessarily through the bank of your country, is transparent to the tax authorities. A transaction through a foreign bank is quite another. Part of the transaction can be shown through a transparent bank, and the other part through a closed offshore.

            again
            export license authorizes sale to a non-resident buyer
            and the law on foreign exchange regulation obliges to comply with the rules in relation to foreign exchange earnings from export sales
            but even the discussed abolition of mandatory repatriation does not exempt from paying taxes
            there are fears that it will give exporters more opportunities to hide the tax base
            and the mere fact of "settlement" of funds received as a result of export transactions in foreign accounts raises a lot of questions

            but, again, an export license does not mean at all that
            Quote: depressant
            I bought a license once, and send the mined gold and grown grain abroad, stack your personal well-being

          2. -1
            29 January 2022 12: 02
            Quote: depressant
            Like, part of the grain, while being transported, lost its marketable condition, was written off. After all, they are loading almost raw grain!

            exported grain undergoes preliminary preparation at granaries and meets the technical conditions and requirements of importing countries.
            not to mention the fact that serious independent surveyors are always involved in the implementation of large transactions
            http://www.fczerna.ru/exporter/requirements_importing_countries/

            Quote: depressant
            part of the gold was stolen during transportation

            can you imagine the level of security measures taken when transporting gold??? even if alcohol is transported, for example, by rail. guarded
            insurance companies are required to be involved in such transportations.

            in any case, even if it were possible, it would be even more interesting to stage the loss with the obligatory repatriation of the currency.
            namely, that part of the funds subject to repatriation remain abroad.

            this has nothing to do with the issue under discussion.
            1. +1
              29 January 2022 20: 03
              And this fall, they didn’t see the news, how, when exporting 42 kg of gold in bars (1 kg each) through Sheremetyevo, they lost 2 bars, almost right on the runway? Speaking of safety... and about reliable surveyors... The old professionals are leaving and terribly unprofessionalism and incompetence reigns everywhere. Recall at least the story of loading the S-300 complex on board a ship in St. Petersburg for someone there, over the hill))) a whole (and not a small) company went bankrupt ....
              1. -1
                29 January 2022 20: 29
                didn't hear.
                speak from my own experience.
                rare punctures are within the normal range.
                2 kg out of more than 200 thousand kg exported per year
                it does not draw on the flaws of the system
      2. +9
        29 January 2022 10: 29
        Quote: depressant
        But what about filling the country's budget? But like this! All new taxes on the population.

        You, Lyudmila Yakovlevna, should know that this is how an airbag is created for a comfortable existence AFTER or in the case of the KAZAKHSTAN OPTION ...
        They bring everything good from Russia, and all kinds of “palm oil” are dragged to Russia ...
        hi
        1. +12
          29 January 2022 11: 11
          And they squeeze the population so that they can’t breathe. For example, diesel fuel will rise in price by 19% (already planned!). Many truckers are working to the limit due to the lack of sufficient funds for the necessary replacement of worn parts of transport trucks. Economists say that part of the carriers will leave the profession due to the rise in fuel prices. The rest will raise the price of transportation. As a result, stores will raise prices, and additional promotion of food inflation will begin. Why is the government doing this? Why is it doing this in an oil-producing country? What is the purpose?
        2. -1
          30 January 2022 19: 35
          There are a large number of enterprises with foreign owners in Russia. For example, car factories are German, French, Japanese, Korean, etc. Furniture firm "Ikea". Trade networks "Auchan", etc. Beer factories of British, German, etc. firms. The list is endless. There are even foreign banks: Rosbank-French, Raffeisenbank-Swiss. Lots of joint ventures. And all of them withdraw currency abroad, import equipment, machine tools, missing materials. By the way, enterprises in Russia are built according to the latest projects, with a high degree of automation and quality control. It turns out that not everything is clear with currency flows.
      3. +1
        29 January 2022 14: 12
        Quote: depressant
        Bought once license, and drive abroad the mined gold and grown grain, stack your personal well-being. But what about filling the country's budget? But like this! All new taxes on the population.

        not so: the exporter pays the state every year:

        -Income tax,,

        - Mineral extraction tax,

        - rent payments,

        -License fees. (see polymetal)
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    1. +10
      29 January 2022 07: 42
      So it is difficult for the masses to understand whether it is the absolute or the lesser of evils when a kosher dance school is involved in his politics - two steps to the left, two steps to the right ... And this is after the drunk who did not know how to dance and merged everything directly, and there it was not far from the riot. I had to look for an elite dancer, work on the mistakes, so to speak. . Well, only those who are in the share and completely narrow-minded are considered good.
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  8. +2
    29 January 2022 07: 40
    Where and how did Russian gold really go?
    A rhetorical question in our time - to England, my friend, to England
  9. -1
    29 January 2022 07: 50
    Novel. I used to work in gold mining. The state always buys everything that is produced and asks for more. These are not reports from exchange sites, but the real state of affairs. And so everywhere not only in the Russian Federation.
    And you again write on a topic about which you know by hearsay.
    1. +14
      29 January 2022 08: 28
      Those. Do you completely refute the government's refusal to purchase gold and allow gold mining companies to sell the precious metal abroad, directly? Did the novel "suck everything out of your finger"? And there is no such decree of the main fighter, and the law adopted by the Duma?
      1. -4
        29 January 2022 09: 01
        Well, that is, yesterday we dragged Doré alloy for refining, but today we are directly loading it onto an airplane and taking it, for example, to the WB. Isn't that how you imagine it? From I don't represent.
        1. +4
          29 January 2022 09: 07
          I didn't understand any of your answer. Is there a decree, law and sale abroad, or does the state take everything from the miner?
          1. -5
            29 January 2022 09: 13
            There may be a law. no procedure :)
            The state will never release the precious metal.
            1. +6
              29 January 2022 09: 19
              Those. Did the novel make it all up? And there is no such permission? Does a gold miner sell precious metals to the west or east, bypassing the state? Is it only available to the state, to trade in the people's property? And who is the state?
              1. -2
                29 January 2022 09: 53
                I repeat for those who are in the tank. The key word is procedure. I can let you sell heroin, but you still can't.
                In our country, the state sits tightly on the flow of natural resources and does not like amateur performance very much. And control is tightening, even those who yesterday could be slapped on the hat today. And the law is a piece of paper.
                Honestly, it’s funny to me, they brought hundreds of kg for refining (for example, Polyus mined 30 tons a year), and the state yawns so lazily and says: nope, don’t. We don't buy right now. Fits wherever you want!
                Especially funny if you look at the market and price prospects.
                1. +6
                  29 January 2022 10: 01
                  Now the answer is clear. An article about what is missing. And to sell gold, and all minerals, can only be a clan, and not just anyone.
        2. +4
          29 January 2022 09: 57
          Quote: kytx
          Isn't that how you imagine it? From I don't represent.

          Dear, if you are in the subject, please highlight the question (I think everyone will be interested): is there a decrease in production rates in the Russian gold mining industry today? And whether there are refusals of the state from purchasing gold in full or an unreasonable decrease in purchase prices. Thank you. hi
        3. -1
          29 January 2022 10: 42
          Quote: kytx
          From I don't represent.

          We can imagine it like this:
    2. -5
      29 January 2022 09: 56
      Quote: kytx
      Novel. I used to work in gold mining. The state always buys everything that is produced and asks for more. These are not reports from exchange sites, but the real state of affairs. And so everywhere not only in the Russian Federation.
      And you again write on a topic about which you know by hearsay.

      You will not be understood here. This is where the "All-Pulverizers" mainly gathered ...
      1. +14
        29 January 2022 10: 04
        You know, Alexey, from my point of view and personal experience, not everything was "lost", but a lot of what I had in my youth, in another country.
        1. -9
          29 January 2022 10: 10
          Quote: Essex62
          You know, Alexey, from my point of view and personal experience, not everything was "lost", but a lot of what I had in my youth, in another country.

          It was necessary to worry about this in 1990-93. As they say, "do not cry over the removed hair." We must remember, but we live here and now and we must proceed from the realities of today, and not 30 years ago. And yet, and no one promised 20 years ago manna from heaven. It's strange that almost no one remembers this ...
          1. +5
            29 January 2022 10: 50
            Quote: Alexey Sedykin
            We must remember, but we live here and now and we must proceed from the realities of today, and not 30 years ago.

            Here we live in today and periodically remind that we cannot recognize that criminal redistribution of the 90s as legal. We remind this at every opportunity, so that those who arranged it would not be deceived into a long and peaceful life.
            And about manna from heaven, and about two "Volgas" for a voucher, and about the privatization of privatized enterprises, and about the law on the restoration of deposits, and much more, you MUST remember ...
            Your calmness and confidence can only be explained by two reasons: either you have succeeded in the field of addition, or you are not as “complete” as you are trying to prove here.
            Quote: Alexey Sedykin
            You will not be understood here. This is where the "All-Pulverizers" mainly gathered ...

            Yes, we know you - the “All-Naydens”, as flaky ... You can be seen by your large body and a bag in your teeth:

            hi
    3. +3
      29 January 2022 20: 12
      And who did they work? At the mine as a worker or engineer? At the refinery or at the GOK? And by whom? Even if a manager? I don’t think that I’m directly a top manager responsible for export or accounting)))) and I don’t think that the owners or general director. enterprises, together with the chief accountant and the head of the sales department, told you schemes and chains for exporting gold abroad or reported on how much the state bought out and how much it refused ...
  10. -4
    29 January 2022 08: 12
    Where is the macroeconomic analysis for today, what awaits the dollar in the near future? At the end of 8, finally, the share of the dollar in Russia's gold reserves became less than gold. True, by only 2021%. Now gold is 1%, the dollar is 23%. And what if we also look at the NWF?
    1. -1
      29 January 2022 10: 32
      I will expand the topic, In 2021, non-resource non-energy exports amounted to $ 191 billion, the share of gold in it is only $ 15,8 billion. The rule of leaving proceeds in foreign accounts applies to $ 191 billion. Let's see what this will give for the budget, in the form of VAT and taxes. Exports of NOE are even lower, sales of energy resources by $ 40 billion. At least it’s clear with the latter. This is only our export. I found two reasons why this is done. Look for yourself, you will definitely like them for criticism.
  11. +4
    29 January 2022 08: 51
    In the meantime, the bottom line is that Russian gold, everything that is mined, will go to replenish the bins of other states.
    But how are we going to fight with the West? laughing
    1. +5
      29 January 2022 09: 36
      Throwing gold bars laughing
      1. +5
        29 January 2022 10: 07
        Quote: Mikhail Sidorov
        Throwing gold bars

        If you believe the article, then they will throw gold bars at us. And in response we will throw bundles of dollars that we received from the sale of gold (well, the British will not pay us in rubles).
        The program to reduce the dependence of the economy on the dollar is working and winning.
      2. +8
        29 January 2022 10: 40
        Already dropped along the way.. laughing And not just gold bars.
  12. -3
    29 January 2022 08: 54
    Quote: kytx
    Novel. I used to work in gold mining. The state always buys everything that is produced and asks for more. These are not reports from exchange sites, but the real state of affairs. And so everywhere not only in the Russian Federation.
    And you again write on a topic about which you know by hearsay.

    Maybe you know part of the chain...? And then - you know? Then you to us .... bully hi
  13. +5
    29 January 2022 09: 07
    Frankly, I did not know that US bonds are almost impossible to exchange for "live" money. 90%!! belay
    And how many "we" still have such "highly liquid" assets in gold reserves??
    The theme is bomb. And the title did not deceive. It is hardly possible to dig up more information from open sources.
    1. +6
      29 January 2022 09: 22
      Samarin 1969 - let's start with the fact that the exchange of debt for real money is unprofitable and dangerous for the United States, because for the amount of these obligations they give LIVE money, in fact, pour it into your economy. Tranzhiros is just a paper indicating that you nominally, but only NOMINALLY, are the owner of a certain amount in US dollars! And, the Yankees are not eager to feed your economy, the more weak countries dependent on the dollar in the world, the easier it is to manipulate these countries, and ideally and govern.
      1. +6
        29 January 2022 09: 47
        Hmm, American bonds, like absolutely any government bonds, are redeemed at a certain time and become invalid when redeemed - a new series of them is issued. I don't understand why this is so "special"? The author of the article did not quite correctly point out how the bonds are dumped before their maturity. If the reset occurs before the maturity date, then the redemption discount goes depending on the maturity date and has a gradation of 10-25%. Actually, such a mechanism applies to any bonds. And I did not find information that when US government bonds are presented for redemption, 90% of the redemption amount is paid only again with such bonds.
        1. +5
          29 January 2022 13: 28
          Snail N9 - the Yankees simply change one piece of paper for another, but do not pay them as they should with LIVE money - the same example of throwing the Japanese to help you! This is a global scam, the Yankees buy everything they need in the world for such waste paper, along with their dollar a convenient way to "bind" the economies of many countries of the world.
          1. 0
            29 January 2022 16: 29
            Hmm, why is it a problem for them to give LIVE money? They print them too.
            1. +2
              29 January 2022 18: 57
              Dmitry Chelyabinsk - because it is not profitable for them! Give you money, finance your economy, and then you will become economically strong, do not depend on the US dollar as a means of payment. It's easier to trade from one obligation to another, so you're still dependent on the Yankees for your money. Won, the United States borrowed a trillion dollars from China, and returned to them several billion in total to pay off the debt. At this rate, they will return the main debt for a couple of centuries for sure.
  14. -4
    29 January 2022 09: 36
    The article is rotten and deliberately sticks out the wrong reasons.
    There is a version that we were forced to sell gold for the opportunity to get rid of the Amer booms. They need gold, which is not in the declared amount in their vaults. Yes, the agreement is crooked, but the sanctions and the loss of 120 billion dollars on paper matter.
    The main thing is to throw foreign assets out of the Central Bank and Sberbank. This is the main task
    1. -9
      29 January 2022 09: 51
      Quote: Cosmemedic
      The article is rotten and deliberately sticks out the wrong reasons.
      There is a version that we were forced to sell gold for the opportunity to get rid of the Amer booms. They need gold, which is not in the declared amount in their vaults. Yes, the agreement is crooked, but the sanctions and the loss of 120 billion dollars on paper matter.
      The main thing is to throw foreign assets out of the Central Bank and Sberbank. This is the main task

      I agree, the article is not only stinky, but to be honest, it frankly stinks.
  15. -5
    29 January 2022 09: 50
    And with this permission, all dishonest gold miners were immediately identified and now they will be disposed of and their enterprises will pass under state control or directly to the state. FAS has already taken care of these issues.
  16. -2
    29 January 2022 10: 12
    The gold reserve of the Russian state is administered by the Bank of Russia, which is not a Russian bank. This, let me remind you, is a legal entity about which we know nothing. No authorized capital, no property, no founders.


    Well, how much can you repeat this stupidity, well, there is a law on the Central Bank in an open form and everything is there about the authorized capital and property and founders, and then to whom the Central Bank should be accounted and how can you say that the Central Bank is not a Russian bank if its head is essentially appointed by the President of the Russian Federation.

    The exchange rate of the ruble speaks best of all about how effectively the Central Bank of the Russian Federation fulfills its duties. But this is a subject for a separate discussion.


    So again, this is not a question for the Central Bank in the first place, the Central Bank is conducting "supportive therapy" here. The Central Bank cannot change the systemic factors that are present inside Russia and that negatively affect the economy.
    1. +6
      29 January 2022 12: 23
      The ruble exchange rate is steadily falling, inflation is growing - everything is as usual.
      Only now the gold is also being taken out to potential enemies!
      Why was the gold not taken to Beijing or Delhi - the world's main buyers of precious metals?
      In London, the financial stock of "personal friends of the president" stolen from Russia is stored ...
      1. +2
        29 January 2022 14: 04
        Quote: assault
        Why was the gold not taken to Beijing or Delhi - the world's main buyers of precious metals?

        The London Metal Exchange is the main one in the world, alas, this is a fact. And gold is a specific commodity ...
      2. +1
        29 January 2022 14: 46
        Why was the gold not taken to Beijing or Delhi - the world's main buyers of precious metals?
        In London, the financial stock of "personal friends of the president" stolen from Russia is stored ...


        Before you talk nonsense and yell that everything is lost, at least look at the gold reserves in the UK!!!

        They only have 300 tons!!! Which is 7,5 times less than in Russia!!!

        Britain in terms of gold reserves is after Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan in 19th place in the world!!!
        1. +4
          29 January 2022 21: 21
          In Israel, the gold reserve is 0 kg. smile

          And the shekel is one of the strongest currencies.
          Grows constantly.
          1. +2
            29 January 2022 22: 48
            And the United States is in first place in terms of gold reserves - 8150 tons, Germany is in second place with 3500 tons, France is in third place with 2400 tons.

            And the dollar against the euro is much stronger and more liquid than the shekel.
            1. +4
              29 January 2022 23: 39
              And Canada, for example, in 2016 completely sold its gold reserves. She, like Israel, has 0 kg
              wink
              Among economists, there is a trend that believes that the gold reserve is a vestige of the chests of the Middle Ages.
              And that the currency should be backed by a strong economy of the state, and not chests of jewels in the cellars, as in ancient times.
            2. +3
              30 January 2022 16: 50
              In addition to gold, Russia has platinum, palladium, silver, diamonds and other rare but expensive metals and stones in its special depository.
  17. -4
    29 January 2022 10: 23
    the gold that is gone. Mainly to the UK
    . The UK is a historical hub for the international gold trade.
    .
    . Deputy Minister of Industry and Trade Alexey Bezprozvannykh :
    "in London is the main exchange for trading metals, and therefore gold from Russia is sent mainly there. Buyers include global funds, banks and private investors.

    — Due to the unstable economic situation today, investors from all over the world are trying to save their capital by buying physical gold bars.
    
Reason for selling:
    Foreign exchange earnings for gold exports were called compensate for the failure of petrodollar revenues when the hydrocarbon market was in a state of pandemic shock. In 2020, Russia exported gold worth a total of $18,5 billion, three times more than a year earlier.

    Excluding additional income from gold (about $12 billion) non-commodity exports would fall by about $6 billion, or 3,8%
    https://www.finanz.ru/novosti/birzhevyye-tovary/vyvoz-zolota-iz-rossii-okazalsya-nacionalnym-proektom-1030091277.


    Wherein :
    The volume of the National Wealth Fund as of January 1, 2022 in ruble terms amounted to about 13,6 trillion rubles. The Ministry of Finance returned to the accumulation of reserves at the beginning of 2021 thanks to windfall oil revenues. Over the past year, the Ministry of Finance bought currencies and gold for additional oil and gas revenues in the amount of more than 3,1 trillion rubles. — more than in pre-pandemic 2019

    https://www.rbc.ru/economics/19/01/2022/61e7fbd39a7947149db3d71f
  18. +7
    29 January 2022 10: 37
    Instead of the scientific fact that Russia today is a sub-colony from which everything of value is exported, including gold, and cheap goods are imported mainly from China, and Western high-tech products, a lot of words.
    1. -9
      29 January 2022 13: 09
      And back like nothing valuable and necessary for the country is imported - Old Horseradish finish Carrying crap.
  19. 0
    29 January 2022 10: 41
    Quote: Polite Moose
    Quote: kytx
    Isn't that how you imagine it? From I don't represent.

    Dear, if you are in the subject, please highlight the question (I think everyone will be interested): is there a decrease in production rates in the Russian gold mining industry today? And whether there are refusals of the state from purchasing gold in full or an unreasonable decrease in purchase prices. Thank you. hi

    You asked a serious question, I will try to give a serious answer.
    As for today, I'm not into this industry right now. If I ask such a question to people who are stewing in this porridge, the answer will be: "for what purpose are you interested?"
    Gold is silence.
    Production rates are not an indicator. They depend on the market value, stock exchanges with shares that large mining and investment companies are engaged in (well, nothing personal! This is the business of the big guys, baby!), Exploration (unexpected discoveries or revaluation, including intentional balance reserves) and generally a bunch of factors, including prices for oil, because each specific gram from a specific field has a cost price that everything depends on.
    Gold in the Russian Federation is mined by a bunch of commercial enterprises and even (o sic!) by private traders and even without a license (what the hell!) And the state willingly buys all this, they fight very cruelly with illegal goods (which is).
    It's funny about rejections :)
    About the low prices, I think it's also understandable.
    There are delays in payment, but large companies are tolerable.
    After all, gold is not only gold, more than half is eaten by industrial production.
  20. +9
    29 January 2022 10: 50
    In general, everything is clear. In words, they care for the revival of Russia, but in reality they take capital over the hill to children and grandchildren.
    Record grain - was taken out, record steel - was taken out, gold - there too, wood - there even recently ...
    Putin gave the go-ahead.

    Even if there is a discrepancy somewhere, the general line is correct. even proverbs have already formed - "oil is getting cheaper, gasoline is getting more expensive."

    Just in time, panic is being whipped up in the media before the war (it is necessary to distract from rising prices), and the oligarchs on superyachts spend their holidays off the coast of NATO satellites, and in the same London.
    1. -4
      29 January 2022 14: 44
      In words, they care for the revival of Russia, but in reality they take capital over the hill to children and grandchildren.


      In fact, before the arrival of Putin, Russia's gold reserves were 14 billion dollars, and now they are 630 billion dollars!!!

      Russia in terms of gold reserves today is the 5th country in the world!!!

      In fact, the average salary before Putin was 1000 rubles with a dollar at 24, and a pension of 600, and today 58!!!

      Well, what are you whining about?
      1. +1
        29 January 2022 17: 18
        And compared to 1913, in general, manna from heaven ...
        such a technique in the training manual - to divert the conversation to "unprecedented salary growth" somewhere out there, in the middle morgue ...
        1. -2
          29 January 2022 20: 22
          In fact, I wrote to you what happened before Putin and what happened with him.

          And it was under him that the country's reserves and the budget grew tenfold, and before him they could not pay% on debts, although before Putin the country sold oil, gas and metals !!!

          It looks like you have problems with the training manual, because you can’t actually object to me.
          1. +1
            29 January 2022 22: 13
            This is what is said in the article about the export of gold, etc.
            Discuss how you pulled off the left topic???

            write a new post, and we will discuss.
            sum up the pros, cons, promises kept, broken promises, compare...
            Be of good cheer
            1. 0
              29 January 2022 22: 38
              This is what is said in the article about the export of gold, etc.


              Here you were about gold -

              In fact, before the arrival of Putin, Russia's gold reserves were 14 billion dollars, and now they are 630 billion dollars!!!

              Russia in terms of gold reserves today is the 5th country in the world!!!


              What's wrong?

              Here's why they're selling

              USA (8150 tons), Germany (3500), Italy (2400), France (2400) Russia (2300).

              In Britain, by the way, the gold reserve is only 300 tons for 2021 !!! This probably explains that in the conditions of instability caused by the pandemic, they decided to increase investment in this metal, and not because Russian oligarchs are fleeing to London, as the author believes))).

              If Russia, represented by the Central Bank, bought up gold for another year, it would already be in 3rd place in the world in terms of gold reserves.

              This is not bad, but only the liquidity of gold is low, in order to pay for it, it must be physically transported, which is expensive and inconvenient. Therefore, Russia's gold reserves do not consist of gold alone, but of a proportion of gold, currencies and bonds of developed countries.

              Considering that gold has risen in price and significantly over the past couple of years, its share in dollars in gold reserves has grown, and in order to compensate for this, the Central Bank stopped buying gold, but buys currency, and in order for it to enter the country, gold miners were allowed to sell it !!!


              Regarding exporters -

              President Vladimir Putin signed a law on the abolition of requirements for the repatriation of foreign exchange earnings for non-commodity exporters.


              This law does not apply to gold miners, but for some reason the author kept silent about this.
              1. -3
                30 January 2022 00: 05
                You're just looking to the past. Now, they say, it's better than in 1913, 1993, 2000 and 2005 .. Right? right.
                And the author looks to the future.

                5 in terms of reserves - it’s still good, and the author writes about growth, but the recent past and his own gold. The price of oil is growing strongly (200 at EBN, 1000 in 2008, 1400 in 2014, and now it’s just tin), the egg capsule is growing accordingly. (PF didn't really help)

                But according to your interpretation of the decree, there are discrepancies with articles on the Internet - there is gold, etc.


                Perhaps that is why there have been conversations for a month - whether to screw up the metallurgists, they sold too much over the hill, super profits ....
                Then the truth, silence ....
              2. 0
                30 January 2022 19: 15
                I looked at the explanations to the law of 28.06.2021/223/XNUMX No. XNUMX-FZ - there really is no gold there.
                there is only scrap and waste of gold.

                did not look at other laws
          2. 0
            30 January 2022 21: 05
            Or maybe you’ll rewind a little back what was before Putin and what was under Putin.
      2. 0
        31 January 2022 20: 53
        58000 !?
        Wow!
        We have 36000 kopecks in total in the region, according to Rosstat.
  21. -1
    29 January 2022 11: 16
    And back in 2021, new investment gold coins "George the Victorious" appeared in the Russian Federation (in addition to 7,78 g - a face value of 50 rubles) in 3,11 g. (chemically pure gold 999/1000) - a face value of 25 rubles, in 15,55 - the face value of 100 rubles, in 31,1 - the face value of 200 rubles. All are quality uncirculated. Everyone can replenish their family gold reserves, depending on the financial condition of the family. Gold has grown by 5% over 94 years, palladium has grown by 304% during this time, in May 2021 the price of palladium was 413%.
    1. +4
      29 January 2022 12: 10
      Ask how much you can sell these coins for and calculate how much money you will lose...
    2. -1
      29 January 2022 13: 11
      Well, banks will buy these coins for 50 rubles if you want to sell them back.
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  23. +7
    29 January 2022 11: 32
    Quote: Alexey Sedykin
    This is where the "All-Pulverizers" mainly gathered ...
    Normal people call them "realists"
    1. 0
      30 January 2022 21: 07
      You are beautifulgood
  24. 0
    29 January 2022 11: 49
    A curious detail: everyone is interested in reading where and how and where they once again had them, but no one is interested in the most important thing - - why? Probably because a developed society would not allow this. A. no one wants to admit that they are not developed.
    1. 0
      29 January 2022 14: 08
      Quote: ivan2022
      Probably because a developed society would not allow this.
      - probably De Gaulle was surprised - when he turned out to change bucks. And France is, in general, a developed state ...
    2. 0
      29 January 2022 14: 40
      A curious detail: everyone is interested in reading where and how and where they once again had them, but no one is interested in the most important thing - - why?


      It is a curious detail that you did not even check the information that a not very smart person or an outright provocateur published here and immediately began to yell about the fact that the society was deceived.

      No, it was the author who deceived you by writing nonsense and adding his own conjectures.

      Below I analyzed his writings and pointed out the errors.
  25. +2
    29 January 2022 12: 09
    Instead of simplifying as much as possible the procedure for buying gold by citizens of the Russian Federation, and canceling the extortionate taxes that must be paid to banks in case of buying precious metals, the Kremlin mafia took everything to the west ....
    Wealthy citizens means a rich country, this is not about the criminal-oligarchic Russian Federation - ju.
    If anyone believes that the Kremlin authorities are protecting the interests of Russia, then only the miserable grannies who were once again bought for 10 thousand rubles before the elections to the State Duma.
    1. -1
      29 January 2022 14: 38
      Instead of simplifying as much as possible the procedure for buying gold by citizens of the Russian Federation, and canceling the extortionate taxes that must be paid to banks in case of buying precious metals, the Kremlin mafia took everything to the west ....


      Buy coins of George the Victorious or foreign gold coins, they are liquid, unlike ingots. Or open accounts in gold, platinum, palladium or silver. In Russia, all this can be done. You can even buy ingots, but here you have to pay VAT.

      And there is no need to carry nonsense, about the mafia. Under Putin, salaries in dollars increased 20 times, and before Putin, the country did not have money%% to pay debts, which is why they defaulted, although even then Russia produced and sold oil, gas, metals, including gold !!!
      1. 0
        30 January 2022 01: 47
        A dashing storyteller, at 93 I earned 300 bucks a day, and now I can’t earn 1000 per month, despite the fact that the buck is no longer the same in terms of purchasing power, so who should I trust you or even myself
      2. -4
        30 January 2022 11: 04
        And my salary has also grown, from 90 hryvnia in 1998 to 15 thousand hryvnia today. That is more than 160 times. True, according to YOUR logic, I live awesome? )
        Although, smart people - they do not confuse an increase in wages with an increase in purchasing power. If you want high salaries, go to Zimbabwe, where people generally receive billions ...

        And, in the future, try not to confuse purchasing power with salary. Under Putin, purchasing power has really grown since the 90s - only it has grown in those CIS countries where Putin was not, and Putin has nothing to do with increasing the purchasing power of the population.
      3. 0
        30 January 2022 21: 09
        To the face of the saints, no less.)))
  26. -2
    29 January 2022 12: 46
    Quote: yuriy55
    Quote: Alexey Sedykin
    We must remember, but we live here and now and we must proceed from the realities of today, and not 30 years ago.

    Here we live in today and periodically remind that we cannot recognize that criminal redistribution of the 90s as legal. We remind this at every opportunity, so that those who arranged it would not be deceived into a long and peaceful life.
    And about manna from heaven, and about two "Volgas" for a voucher, and about the privatization of privatized enterprises, and about the law on the restoration of deposits, and much more, you MUST remember ...
    Your calmness and confidence can only be explained by two reasons: either you have succeeded in the field of addition, or you are not as “complete” as you are trying to prove here.
    Quote: Alexey Sedykin
    You will not be understood here. This is where the "All-Pulverizers" mainly gathered ...

    Yes, we know you - the “All-Naydens”, as flaky ... You can be seen by your large body and a bag in your teeth:

    hi

    Where were all of you guardians in 91 and 93 ... They were silent in a rag, as if something didn’t work out, so that it would blow past ... But then something like that from 98-99 broke through, so much came out ... it’s already amazing. And what is more surprising, the better life in the country, the more "guardians" Why would it ...
    1. +1
      30 January 2022 21: 11
      I was 8 and 10 years old, so "I couldn't, I couldn't."
      1. -3
        30 January 2022 21: 57
        Quote: V is for B
        I was 8 and 10 years old, so "I couldn't, I couldn't."

        Well, ask your parents what they didn’t protect ... And any of your commies, led by Zyuga in 96, betrayed everyone who voted for him, surrendering their victory to Boriska. And Putin pulled the country out of such shit that you don't know. I’ll be older when I’m 1991 years old in 14 ...
        1. -1
          31 January 2022 21: 18
          Are you with yours? Oh, did you pull it out? Not very tired to drag something?
          1. -1
            31 January 2022 23: 33
            Quote: V is for B
            Are you with yours? Oh, did you pull it out? Not very tired to drag something?

            You didn't see what happened in the 90s, so it's not for you to judge. Still small.
            1. 0
              1 February 2022 13: 14
              Where are we - orphaned and wretched))))
  27. 0
    29 January 2022 13: 08
    assault (Dmitry Kurochkin), dear, ask why? Silver 3 ruble "George the Victorious" bought for 700 rubles, sold for 2 rubles, 000 ruble gold "George" (St. Petersburg Mint) bought for 50 rubles - sold for 22 rubles.
  28. +1
    29 January 2022 13: 16
    Vadim237 (Vadim), dear, did you try to sell in which region, region, republic of the Russian Federation, in the capital? One grandmother said Have you tried selling at a bank?
    1. +3
      29 January 2022 14: 42
      Why sell a bank coin not in a bank? After all, you buy shares on the stock market, and sell them there. You won't go to the vegetable market with them.
    2. 0
      30 January 2022 16: 55
      I don’t buy gold at all - you can earn a little more money from it on quotes, just like on oil.
  29. +3
    29 January 2022 13: 26
    The low exchange rate of the ruble is an indirect tax that the inefficient government has imposed on the people of Russia. The real exchange rate is probably around 60, but we will never see such a rate, despite $90 per barrel, I generally keep quiet about gas.
  30. +2
    29 January 2022 14: 07
    How can having US bonds protect a country from the US?
    1. 0
      30 January 2022 16: 56
      Russia sold almost all of them, money was invested in other countries.
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  32. +1
    29 January 2022 14: 33
    The author should prepare the material better and do not fool people with nonsense about Putin's friends whom he allowed in the UK to have accounts in foreign currency)))

    President Vladimir Putin signed a law on the abolition of requirements for the repatriation of foreign exchange earnings for non-commodity exporters.


    This does not apply to exporters of oil, gas, metals, including non-ferrous ones. This law is aimed at removing administrative barriers for entrepreneurs who are engaged in non-commodity exports, so that they can use the currency more conveniently to develop their business and not convert several times.

    Let's really think, is it necessary? 2300 tons is a lot. This is quite a lot, Russia is among the top ten countries in terms of the availability of gold.


    Not in the top ten, but in the top five countries of the world. USA (8150 tons), Germany (3500), Italy (2400), France (2400) and then Russia (2300).

    In Britain, by the way, the gold reserve is only 300 tons for 2021 !!! This probably explains that in the conditions of instability caused by the pandemic, they decided to increase investment in this metal, and not because Russian oligarchs are fleeing to London, as the author believes))).

    If Russia, represented by the Central Bank, bought up gold for another year, it would already be in 3rd place in the world in terms of gold reserves.

    This is not bad, but only the liquidity of gold is low, in order to pay for it, it must be physically transported, which is expensive and inconvenient. Therefore, Russia's gold reserves do not consist of gold alone, but of a proportion of gold, currency and bonds of developed countries.

    Considering that gold has risen in price and significantly over the past couple of years, its share in dollars in gold reserves has grown, and in order to compensate for this, the Central Bank stopped buying gold, but buys currency, and in order for it to enter the country, gold miners were allowed to sell it !!!

    EVERYTHING AND NO CONSPIRACY THEORIES HERE!!!
    1. 0
      29 January 2022 18: 26
      the liquidity of gold is low, in order to pay for it, it must be physically transported, which is expensive and inconvenient.

      In the conditions of economic war and sanctions, the presence of gold reserves in the country is the best guarantee of stability, and not those "wrappers" from Western partners with whom they can be sent away in the event of a sharp escalation of the conflict.
      It is more difficult to steal gold if it is securely locked in the safes of the state guard, unlike speculative papers
      This situation is visible and irritates those in power, who are ready for personal gain to sell their mother and take gold out of the country ....
      For some reason, the transportation of 300 tons of gold from Moscow to London did not cause any problems, neither Covid-19 nor Britain's intentions to arm Ukraine and transfer its special forces there in any way interfered with this operation.
      1. +4
        29 January 2022 20: 27
        I sort of painted everything and explained it in Russian.

        The country's reserves are balanced and the country buys imported goods not for gold, but for foreign currency, because it's more convenient, faster and cheaper. Paying in gold is expensive.

        And yes, life has not stopped because of the covid and Russia exports oil and gas and gold.

        And in order for Russia to arm its army, imagine we are selling gold through Britain, and gas through Germany, Ukraine and Turkey, and we are selling oil to the United States and building planes, tanks and ships with this money.

        Can you imagine?! )))
        1. 0
          30 January 2022 00: 39
          The amount of currency coming into the country from the sale of oil and gas exceeds all planned budget forecasts and there was no need to sell gold.
          A smart and zealous owner, at every opportunity, strives to replenish his strategic reserves and not squander them to enemies who strangle you with sanctions and threaten war.
          otherwise it's kind of masochistic...
          Can you imagine?! )))
    2. 0
      30 January 2022 21: 14
      Have I already written about the saints? So this is petty, it’s time for someone to move on their heavenly throne.)))
  33. +2
    29 January 2022 15: 33
    OK. But let's not start with poop. And what are the plants for carbon fiber and radioelectronics in Dubna, etc., being built for? For industrialization, too, everything that can be sold was driven. Another question is whether the state controls the sellers personally, I hope so.
  34. +5
    29 January 2022 15: 47
    The gold reserve of the Russian state is administered by the Bank of Russia, which is not a Russian bank. This, let me remind you, is a legal entity about which we know nothing. No authorized capital, no property, no founders.


    If you, Count Roman Skomorokhov, do not know anything, this does not mean that your words are correct.
    See the law "On the Central Bank of the Russian Federation (Bank of Russia)":
    http://pravo.gov.ru/proxy/ips/?docbody=&nd=102077052

    1 Article. The status, objectives, functions and powers of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation (Bank of Russia) are determined by the Constitution of the Russian Federation, this Federal Law and other federal laws.

    Article 2. The authorized capital and other property of the Bank of Russia are federal property. ...

    3 Article. The objectives of the Bank of Russia are:

    protection and ensuring the stability of the ruble;
    development and strengthening of the banking system of the Russian Federation;
    ensuring stability and development of the national payment system; (As amended by Federal Law No. 27.06.2011-FZ dated June 162, XNUMX)
    development of the financial market of the Russian Federation; (The paragraph was introduced by Federal Law No. 23.07.2013-FZ of July 251, XNUMX)
    ensuring the stability of the financial market of the Russian Federation. (The paragraph was introduced by Federal Law No. 23.07.2013-FZ of July 251, XNUMX)
    The receipt of profit is not the goal of the Bank of Russia.

    Article 14. The Chairman of the Bank of Russia is appointed by the State Duma for a term of five years by a majority vote of the total number of deputies of the State Duma. (As amended by Federal Law No. 23.07.2013-FZ dated July 251, XNUMX)

    A candidate for appointment to the position of Governor of the Bank of Russia shall be submitted by the President of the Russian Federation no later than three months before the expiration of the powers of the current Chairman of the Bank of Russia.

    A citizen of the Russian Federation who does not have citizenship (nationality) of a foreign state or a residence permit or other document confirming the right of permanent residence of a citizen of the Russian Federation in the territory of a foreign state may be appointed to the position of the Chairman of the Bank of Russia. (Part introduced - Federal Law No. 30.04.2021-FZ dated April 116, XNUMX)
  35. 0
    29 January 2022 16: 35
    ,
    gold and diamonds that today go to the West - we, the population of Russia, have nothing to do with them. This is not our gold, this is not our diamonds. Alas, this is a given that needs to be changed once the Constitution has been rewritten.

    According to the current Federal Law “On Subsoil” as amended on February 8, 1995 with additions and changes made in 1999, 2001, 2002, etc.:
    "Subsoil within the boundaries of the territory of the Russian Federation, including underground space andsubsurface minerals, energy and other resources, are state property. Issues of ownership, use and disposal of subsoil are under the joint jurisdiction of the Russian Federation and its constituent entities


    Therefore, the natural resources of the subsoil are state property, and the subsoil areas in which they are contained:
    “cannot be the subject of purchase, sale, donation, inheritance, contribution, pledge or alienation in any other form.

    The Federal Laws “On Subsoil”, “On Production Sharing Agreements” and “On the Continental Shelf of the Russian Federation” provide for the right to own and use state property for subsoil in a number of articles. For example, in the Law “On Subsoil” the right to own and use subsoil plots is granted for based on license agreements, namely: “The license grants the right to own subsoil plots on the terms determined by licenses for the purpose of temporary use for geological study, exploration and additional exploration of mineral deposits, construction and operation of underground structures, formation of specially protected objects that have scientific, cultural, aesthetic, medical health-improving and other purpose” (Articles 6 and 11).

    As you can see, the owner of the subsoil - the state provides subsoil users with the right to own land subsoil only for the purposes specified in the law on certain conditions for temporary use, but by no means the right to dispose of them. (C)

    Tax burden, for example, on the Russian oil industry (what is in the budget) -highest in the world and accounts for 70% of the company's income. ,
  36. +2
    29 January 2022 16: 42
    Well, as small children, honestly :)
    This is not our gold, tin, copper, etc., it is "theirs". They themselves agreed to give it all away for 100500 varieties of sausage on the shelves.
    Eat sausage and do not fill in vain.
    Something does not suit?
    Unite, look for allies, create social movements, parties, get into power and make sure that you are heard. Hard? Are they not allowed? Substitute and squeeze? Do you need a lot of money?
    How would you like to change the world by pressing a button on your keyboard? The RSDLP and other Socialist-Revolutionaries with anarchists ended up in hard labor, and campaigned in factories and in the army and navy under the threat of execution according to the laws of war. And yes, they took money from everyone who gave.
    They were really not satisfied with the situation, they had a goal, and some of them achieved their goal. And the part under the sod blanket is gone.
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      30 January 2022 21: 16
      We crushed, crushed what to do.
  37. +2
    29 January 2022 17: 15
    As I understand it, instead of ships, the author decided to go into the economy. And failed again...
    The gold reserve of the Russian state is administered by the Bank of Russia, which is not a Russian bank.
    Well, for this in a decent society they beat with a candelabra ...
  38. 0
    29 January 2022 21: 48
    In the USA, there are about 10K tons of gold reserves ... China is actively buying up gold from its producers and on the world market, where by the way there was a case (scandal) when they tried to foist gold-plated tungsten bars on China instead of gold ... By the way, experts do not believe the official figures China’s gold reserves of the Middle Kingdom. And they’re doing it right ... In China, no less cool financiers (and nuclear physicists ...) live and work than in the states ... Germany unsuccessfully demands permission from the United States to at least see and touch its gold reserves , which for some reason is stored in the USA (by the way, not only German gold is "stored" in Fort Knox, but also the gold of many countries ...), but the Yankees answered the Germans like that there would be too much honor for the Germans (and at that time Hitler turns over in his grave ... or in hell ...) if America allows them to look at "German" gold and invited the Germans to believe the word of honor of those who ROOF all of Europe and Germany too ... And in our turbulent and pre-war (not at all exaggeration ..) time - RUSSIA allows export b over the hill all the gold produced in the country??? Why??!! Russia can not be understood by the mind?? It's strange ... Is it really impossible to buy gold from their producers at the market price and store it in the bins of the Motherland ??? A great country and world power cannot understand the simple truth THAT YOUR GOLD SHOULD BE KEEPED ONLY AND EXCLUSIVELY with YOURSELF and in no case and under no pretexts not to exchange them for any beautiful candy wrappers??? By the way, a well-known Swiss expert on the gold market once said that even in the days of the USSR they disposed of expensive metal too generously, namely, immediately and in large (?!) parties, the USSR threw the precious metal to the London Metal Exchange ... But there (in foggy and wisest London, where, by the way, many English scientists live ... :-) ...) - not fools sit and immediately reduce the price of gold after insider information on the movements of the USSR in the gold market in order to buy Soviet metal at the lowest possible price ... But it was necessary to throw your "product" into the market in small and small parts (batches) in order to sell at the most favorable price. In Russia, in the end, they are simply obliged and must understand that gold is the ONLY commodity in the world, the price of which is actually NOT determined by the MARKET, as it seems to many mistakenly ... The world price of gold is too UNDERESTATED and the REAL price of gold = 20.000 greens for a troy ounce (31 grams) and even more ... Look at the monstrous rise in the price of bitcoin in dollars and the current price of gold! Is this logical and normal? Or maybe the largest shareholders and owners of several private (!) American banks that are part of the US Federal Reserve, who have been granted the right to PRINT DOLLARS 24/7 from the master's shoulder (read again ... do not be lazy ...) - once a year gather in some Swiss (for example ...) mountain village and, through a MONOPOLY CONVENTION, determine a too low "price" (in dollars (!) ...) of gold for the world market crowd in the coming year, while they themselves continue to print green candy wrappers in the sweat of your face???
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  40. 0
    30 January 2022 10: 46
    In a nutshell, the Russian authorities are changing real things, non-renewable resources, into green papers.
  41. -1
    30 January 2022 12: 08
    Yes, the nouveau riche and the fifth column are flourishing here. And this is very unfortunate! Here one can only regret that there is no Stalin ...
  42. -3
    30 January 2022 12: 09
    Where where? American submarines for Australia to build!
  43. +2
    30 January 2022 12: 19
    Sergey VTC (Sergey Vladimirovich), dear, coins made of precious metals are divided into commemorative and investment, the concept of a bank coin is not. I bought commemorative ones, most often, as gifts for friends. My beloved students were retiring, several with the rank of lieutenant colonel, one was a real colonel, some of them planned to leave for their homeland, which means that the peasants had to once again equip a roof over their heads, and give the children a decent education. One is a passionate football fan, now lives in Sochi, you should have seen how happy he was, a gift for his 50th birthday, a coin dedicated to the World Cup! The gift is not large in size and weight, I selected each person personally, taking into account the hobby. At the new place of residence, suddenly the guys will have a financial hole, the age of the parents and parents of the wives is already such that trouble can knock on the house at any moment, and the coin can be sold quickly ... I gave commemorative coins to my daughters and son-in-law ....
    Dear Ratmir_Ryazan is 202% right. Investment coins are one of the most reliable ways to keep your earnings. I bought investment coins (Russian Federation, Great Britain) for myself - part of the family's financial airbag ... Please take the time and look at the charts of the discount rates of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation for precious metals over the past 20 years ... I bought coins not only in different banks (the price of the same coin varies significantly), but also in private companies. Sold - in private companies. In Moscow - in "Derzhava" (now "Gold of the Power"), in St. Petersburg - in "Monet" and "Troy Standard" ... I bought the first shares (Gazprom) in a bank, part of the shares - one of the banks Russian Federation, they gave me an IIS, I have it in Sberbank ...
  44. -4
    30 January 2022 17: 10
    It started back in 1913 when there was a "wise" minister of finance who advised sending part of Russia's gold reserves to Nicholas II in England. Well, of course, so that the damned Teutons would not get to the island. Then the royal family's jewels went there. They say that members of the royal house they own. It is not a sin to recall the 200 million gold rubles given by Alexander II to create the US Federal Reserve. Therefore, the royal family was doomed from the very beginning to the root. Well, if you need to list all the gold stolen from Russia, it takes a lot of time. Especially Gobi and EBN you need to remember everything was there and on a large scale.
  45. -5
    30 January 2022 19: 04
    Roman, you again raised a topic that is very state-forming ... Wait, there are a lot of bots here.
  46. +1
    30 January 2022 20: 27
    It is high time for Russia to stop listening and hearing the advice of its pro-Western would-be economists, who in turn imitate the Chicago boys ... And even more so, you can’t follow the advice of the IMF, behind which the ears of the US Federal Reserve are visible ... The Chinese will never ALLOW their gold producers to sell this strategic commodity to countries other than China. And why shouldn't Russia learn from this experience??? And in general - to ban the export from Russia of any (probably, except for gas ...) raw materials. Allow ONLY the export of processed products from the Russian Federation in order to increase the flow of money to the Russian Federation, and not vice versa ... Instead of crude oil, let them sell more than 100 types of goods that can be obtained from crude oil over the hill ... Is it difficult ?? Or is there no desire to invest in processing plants, upgrade equipment and REDUCE TAXES for processors? Do the same with wood, wheat, ore for metals and further along the ENTIRE list of raw materials in Russia. In the 21st century, sell YOUR unprocessed raw materials to OTHERS for a penny, so that others get rich ??? How would you like to understand this?
  47. -1
    31 January 2022 01: 42
    Quote: IVANOV-GDLYAN
    It is high time for Russia to stop listening and hearing the advice of its pro-Western would-be economists, who in turn imitate the Chicago boys ..

    Oh, with your lips ..
    Well, our hirelings, completely controlled by the Washington Regional Committee, cannot do what to do without an order from the White House. In 2017, IMF Managing Director Kristinochka Lagarde flew to Moscow. She called our Minister of Finance, director of the Central Bank, and Oreshkin. Ordered to raise the retirement age, taxes. Ours went under the hood and did everything, substituting the Leader of the Nation, who previously swore that he would not raise a penny. age. The protocol of the meeting of K. Lagarde is in the public domain.
    And gold, so the State Department officials will order Naibulina, she will send everything overseas. True, before that, her zabubenny hubby from the Higher School of Economics will sum up the theoretical base on how this is useful for the prosperity of Russia.
  48. 0
    1 February 2022 12: 07
    From your words it appears that Putin personally organized the theft of state property?
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  50. 0
    7 February 2022 08: 56
    Quote: Snail N9
    And in general, our financial system is arranged in such a way that the state has nothing and to finance its existence of all its programs, including military ones, it takes a loan from the Central Bank! That is, the state of Russia is practically a beggar.


    Is it different in the USA? Who owns the printing press in the US: the government or the Fed? It is written on dollar bills that this is a credit obligation (IOU) of the US Treasury. That is, the state borrows all the money from bankers and must pay it back with interest. Hence the huge public debts: both internal and external.
    That is, the US state is practically a beggar, and even with colossal debts. laughing
  51. 0
    7 February 2022 09: 04
    Quote: Olgovich
    Therefore, natural subsoil resources are state property, and the subsoil areas in which they are contained:


    And the state itself, as such, is the property of a narrow circle of people. "Everything in the name of man, everything for the good of man... and I know this man!"

    Yes, the state takes most of the rent on natural resources... and then what?
    Then there is a redistribution of these assets in favor of other business groups not directly related to the raw materials sector. "We must share!" So they share it with their own people. Some people take it from the budget with a teaspoon, while others use an excavator. Not pensioners, of course.
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