The Polish edition urged the West to spare no effort and means to “separate” Ukraine from Russia

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Ukraine is in limbo, being in a "buffer zone" between Russia and Europe. Acceptance of Kiev into the “Western family” will allow the country to irrevocably break out of the “tenacious grip” of Moscow.

This opinion is expressed on the pages of the Polish edition of Gazeta Wyborcza, while the author is not worried about the possible reaction of the Kremlin to the actions of the West in relation to the square. According to him, the EU is already accustomed to many conflicts on its periphery, which are in a frozen state: to the situation in Cyprus, Kosovo, Transnistria. According to him, a similar fate awaited Ukraine, but the deployment of Russians near its borders attracted increased attention to this state.



As noted in the publication, the square is of interest in the West only when it is covered by popular unrest or an armed conflict is brewing, the rest of the time it is in the "information hole". At the same time, Moscow does not stop actions aimed at changing the government in the country; if the Kremlin fails to achieve this, then it is ready to move on to a forceful solution to the problem. Even if such a scenario can be avoided, this will not reduce the degree of tension.

Ukraine must become part of the West

- calls the Polish observer, believing that only in this way can "tear the country from Russia."

According to him, in order to realize this goal, it is necessary to spare neither effort nor means. For an independent that cannot become a member of NATO, the Swedish model of cooperation with the alliance is quite suitable - Stockholm officially maintains a neutral status, but has close ties with the North Atlantic Alliance.

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  1. +18
    25 January 2022 18: 23
    "Spare neither strength nor means." Interesting. And this Pole understands that during the implementation of this project, their young animals will turn out to be forces and means, and the Anglo-Saxons will willingly use this resource. All these analysts "analyze" only on the basis of take us to the fright. And as soon as the prospect of a specific batch looms, the limitrophes of amers will scatter.
    1. +7
      25 January 2022 19: 13
      Quote: GUARDIAN
      these analysts "analyze" only on the basis of take us to the fright.

      I guess it's not just that. To tear it off will be torn off, but the psheks are counting on being leaned against them! And Poland will immediately become the size and population - with Germany! Yeah, but does Germany need it? She can't see anything, ears slap-slap?
      1. +1
        25 January 2022 19: 37
        Most likely, the Poles will overstrain, literally. Won't swallow.
        1. +4
          26 January 2022 00: 04
          Quote: GUARDIAN
          Most likely, the Poles will overstrain

          This Pole understands a thousand times better .. what the separation of Ukraine means. Alas!! he understands a thousand times better .. than most users on VO. And not only this Pole .. the British and Americans understand this very well. Unlike many of the commentators here. ((((And so they (the West) have already spent crazy resources .. to zombify the inhabitants of Ukraine. Ignoring and not pitying these residents.
          -------------
          Well, how can we not understand it !!!! Reunification with Ukraine means we will become impregnable. And the separation of Ukraine means for the whole of big Russia probation .. if not death. And even more so for the inhabitants of Ukraine.
          1. +2
            26 January 2022 01: 23
            I have been trying to convey this to my colleagues on the site, let's say, for a long time. And yes, people are being zombified, only people are not zombified, they just live, scared and clogged with elementary unbearable everyday problems that the regime is trying not to notice, neither people nor their problems.
          2. 0
            27 January 2022 05: 56
            Quote: ammunition
            Reunification with Ukraine means - we will become impregnable

            How the hell is this magical?
            Quote: ammunition
            And the separation of Ukraine means for the whole of big Russia probation

            Again, why would it?
      2. +1
        25 January 2022 20: 50
        Some part of them - yes counts.
        The slogan "Polish from mozh to mozh".

        "Let's drive the enemy from Pomorie
        The flower of freedom will shine!
        Poland from sea to sea
        Look joyfully at the world!
        Lvov will meet his sons again
        From all over the world…
        The Lviv Eaglets will return
        And the bell of joy will ring.
    2. 0
      25 January 2022 19: 18
      Quote: GUARDIAN
      "Spare neither strength nor means."

      Well, they are unlikely to donate their funds
      1. +2
        25 January 2022 19: 39
        They will force you. The owner will order - the meat will be fulfilled. Well, it’s not for the Saxons to shed “blue” blood.
        1. -1
          25 January 2022 19: 41
          Quote: GUARDIAN
          They will force you. The owner will command - the meat will be fulfilled

          But I meant voluntarily. And so, yes. And wag their tail too
  2. +11
    25 January 2022 18: 24
    They overate rotten apples, so they’re buggy! And what if smoldering conflicts in NATO suddenly flare up, and not one by one, but all at once? .
    1. +9
      25 January 2022 18: 30
      Not only did they overlook, they also endowed territories at the expense of the same Germany, they made a corridor to the sea. and everything will not be enough for them ... I want blood
      1. +3
        25 January 2022 18: 55
        Quote: aleks neym_2
        Not only did they overlook, they also endowed territories at the expense of the same Germany, they made a corridor to the sea. and everything will not be enough for them ... I want blood

        And what would this blood be for them, who let it out, and they will only incite.
        But if at least one Polish soldier shoots at a Russian, then the Russians will not be silent. And what will happen then?
        1. +5
          25 January 2022 19: 22
          "Ukraine must become part of the West"
          - calls the Polish observer, believing that only in this way can "tear the country from Russia."

          "Hyena of Europe" - Poland - again, as before WWII, again wants to eat very bloody!



          REFERENCE
          eat
          1. Eat with greed (about animals).
          “Ah, ma chere, I must tell you that I don’t see any pleasure in the big gnawed bones that our Polkan eats in the kitchen.”
          2. Yes; eat (less often drink), including a lot, untidy and greedily (about a person).
          “Tomorrow the Greeks will turn us out of the apartment, there is absolutely nothing to eat, everything is sold.”
          1. +2
            25 January 2022 19: 26
            Quote: Tatiana
            "Hyena of Europe" - Poland - again, as before WWII, he wants to eat again very much!

            Tear off Ukraine from Russia, and then attach most of the same Ukraine to Poland.
          2. +1
            26 January 2022 21: 11
            Quote: Tatiana
            "Hyena of Europe" - Poland - again, as before WWII, again wants to eat very bloody!

            All to the point Elena ...!
            Here is a well-known Russophobe, I hope he is steaming in the same boiler with ebn and the hunchback is waiting for discussion ..

            The real enemy was in the days of the USSR .. And now there are only shrill mongrels .. There is nothing to even talk about with them!
        2. -2
          25 January 2022 19: 30
          Quote: tihonmarine
          . And what will happen then?

          I don’t know what will happen, but Poland will not be for sure
          1. 0
            25 January 2022 20: 36
            Quote: Seryoga64
            I don’t know what will happen, but Poland will not be for sure

            I thought so too.
            1. -3
              25 January 2022 20: 39
              Quote: tihonmarine
              I thought so too.

              So it follows from recent events
    2. +4
      25 January 2022 18: 50
      Quote: Thrifty
      And after the Second World War, the field really had to be divided .... they overlooked and warmed the reptile on their chests ...

      I often thought about this too..!
      I read that in the days of the Russian Empire, when Poland was a province of Russia, their arrogance was severely suppressed there, even too harshly .. They remembered their historical essence and did not let them raise their heads.
      After the capture of Berlin, they began to be appeased and the territories were presented to Germany and the supply was a priority and 600 thousand infantry soldiers were put in, if only to save their cities and not bomb ..
      And here is her gratitude!
      It's just horror from their Russophobia and arrogance ..
      And they want Ukraine, as I understand it, to attach the gentlemen to themselves ..?
      Oh well..
      Let them not be offended later and do not whine for what they are like that .. Everything is written!
      1. +2
        25 January 2022 19: 00
        Quote from Mishek
        And they want Ukraine, as I understand it, to attach the gentlemen to themselves ..?
        Oh well..

        They gave them Prussia, Pomerania, and even by proxy, under the guise of "help to Ukraine", they want to return Eastern Kresy to themselves. Guba is not a fool, but impudent throughout her history. Although I am in favor of returning Pruccia and Pomerania to the Germans, and Eastern Kresy to the Poles.
        1. +1
          26 January 2022 20: 42
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote from Mishek
          And they want Ukraine, as I understand it, to attach the gentlemen to themselves ..?
          Oh well..

          They gave them Prussia, Pomerania, and even by proxy, under the guise of "help to Ukraine", they want to return Eastern Kresy to themselves. Guba is not a fool, but impudent throughout her history. Although I am in favor of returning Pruccia and Pomerania to the Germans, and Eastern Kresy to the Poles.

          That's right Vlad! Comrade Stalin was too generous, not knowing that he was feeding the snake and Khrushch and Ukraine were also generously throwing away the resources of the RSFSR .. Here we are now seeing the result, they have overlaid Russia! But as they say with us .. Everything that is not done is for the better!
          At least we know the essence of betrayal and deceit and rely only on ourselves and our Army and Navy!
      2. -1
        25 January 2022 19: 32
        Quote from Mishek
        , even too hard

        A. V. Suvorov did his best there
        They still hate him
        1. +2
          26 January 2022 20: 45
          Quote: Seryoga64
          Quote from Mishek
          , even too hard

          A. V. Suvorov did his best there
          They still hate him

          I didn’t hear, but I believe .. He walked through the Alps, and these were in his back ..
          1. -2
            26 January 2022 22: 57
            Quote from Mishek
            He walked through the Alps, and these were in his back ..

            There was an uprising and he, by order of Catherine, suppressed it
            And so suppressed that they still remember him and hate him
            1. +2
              27 January 2022 09: 52
              Quote: Seryoga64
              There was an uprising and he, by order of Catherine, suppressed it
              And so suppressed that they still remember him and hate him

              They will forget all of Stalin and Lenin, but they will never forget Catherine the Great, who erased Poland from world history for 250 years.
              1. -2
                27 January 2022 09: 54
                Quote: tihonmarine
                which erased Poland from world history for 250 years.

                Therefore, their hatred of Russia is at the genome level
                1. +1
                  27 January 2022 16: 43
                  Quote: Seryoga64
                  Quote: tihonmarine
                  which erased Poland from world history for 250 years.

                  Therefore, their hatred of Russia is at the genome level

                  I have a second wife of Polish blood, beautiful, but fierce wassat We fight sometimes
                  1. -2
                    27 January 2022 16: 44
                    Quote from Mishek
                    We fight sometimes

                    Try a bayonet attack
                    1. +1
                      27 January 2022 16: 48
                      Quote: Seryoga64
                      Quote from Mishek
                      We fight sometimes

                      Try a bayonet attack

                      The class pinned up laughed..!!!! good
                      1. -2
                        27 January 2022 17: 02
                        Quote from Mishek
                        The class pinned up laughed..!!!!

                        Well, why pinned. Council gave wink
                      2. +1
                        27 January 2022 18: 31
                        It is accepted that Polish arrogance plays with her, but we are not born with a bast! wink
                      3. -2
                        27 January 2022 18: 33
                        Quote from Mishek
                        but we are not born with a bast

                        Keep it up!!! wink
    3. -1
      25 January 2022 19: 24
      Quote: Thrifty
      and warmed the reptile on the chest ...

      And not one
  3. +3
    25 January 2022 18: 25
    Swedish model of cooperation with the alliance

    in the sense of intercepting the flag of the most advanced LGBT people in Europe?
  4. +6
    25 January 2022 18: 27
    Tear off Ukraine? So it's been torn off a long time ago. Now we have to break! Smaller!
    1. 0
      25 January 2022 19: 17
      Quote: Cat Alexandrovich
      So it's been torn off a long time ago. Now we have to break! Smaller!

      And western - Poland. Let them suffer.
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    1. +4
      25 January 2022 18: 45
      I give a hundred to one: in the next report, the State Department will write that the empty shelves of American stores are the machinations of the Russian disinformation machine and all the photos were taken at Mosfilm. Sausage emigration will confirm.




      1. +1
        25 January 2022 18: 53
        Quote: Tank jacket
        Inflation in the US has reached 25 percent.
        Fall in the USA.

        But the green is getting stronger! VERA is a great power, or rather, everything and capitally plunged into that greenery, they have something to lose if the greenery spreads in a thin layer along the walls!
        It's like miracles in the country of fools, very rich fools!
        1. +1
          25 January 2022 19: 08
          Many years ago, the arrest of the head of the IMF, Strauss-Kahn, which had just taken place (and not even completed yet), gave a clear signal that the main problem of the global financial system is the incompleteness of the Bretton Woods reform, after which, on the one hand, international institutions were formed (IMF, World Bank, and WTO) and, on the other hand, the US-controlled issuing center of the dollar, the Federal Reserve System. And a conflict begins between them.
           
          Last week, the Fed said it would start raising rates by early spring. They can be understood, they operate in the national field, they have elections in November, and the plan to create an American analogue of the CEC (with a guaranteed result in favor of the Democratic Party) did not pass ... But the IMF ...
           
          “The Managing Director of the International Monetary Fund (IMF) Kristalina Georgieva said that the projected increase in the base rate of the US Federal Reserve System (FRS) could become a serious obstacle to the growth of the global economy. It is reported by CNBC. According to her, countries with a high level of debt denominated in dollars can have the most serious consequences from raising rates, since its maintenance will become more expensive. -povishenie-stavki-frs-ssha-mozhet-podorvat-rost ).    
           
          In reality, her speech was even tougher, and she presented enough arguments. And maybe she's even right about something. The trick is that it is no longer possible to explain this to Powell - he lives within a completely different model. And this means that the liberal system that controlled the world economy for many decades (and the corresponding governing structures in almost all countries of the world) began to fall apart, its two centers began to publicly send opposite commands to the “city and the world”.
           
          You can talk as much as you like about the problems in the White House in Washington - the supporters of the Anglo-Saxon "Big Brother" answered this with standard images: "Lovely scold, only amuse!". And, given the unity of economic policy, one could trust them. But something unimaginable, objectively understandable happened today (just like then, back in 2011), but no less terrible for that. If then the question was about personalities with a single policy, today politics is divided. And now there is no good way out.
           
          Actually, the main event happened and the result will inevitably be catastrophic. Tomorrow or the day after tomorrow doesn't matter. But soon.
          -----
          "What a stupid dog son." Joe Biden swore at Fox News journalist Peter Doucy, who asked him not about Ukraine, but about inflation. Apparently, he thought that the microphone was turned off. Industrial inflation in the US has reached 25 percent.
          This means that any assets become cheaper by a quarter in a year.
          1. 0
            25 January 2022 19: 34
            So some financial experts have already spoken out about raising the rate for minke whales, about the same thing.
            An increase in the rate will hit the minke whales very badly, it will become sour for them ... but they, according to their long-standing habit, will try to spray it sourly on everyone around, so that they can get out on their own.
            And with this, he will get out himself, opinions are different but in one direction ... i.e. to whom and how much more sour it will become, now it’s not so obvious, because some fuss is going around and around, national financial structures are trying to do something so as not to crash very deep, and transatlanticists and transnationals live by faith or assurances because of okay, what a national don't care, but the interests of minke whales are above all ....
            I am not an accountant, as I understood the forecast, I wrote it ...
            1. 0
              25 January 2022 19: 46
              By the way, our economists / experts gave such figures for the economies of the USA, China and Russia ... I don’t remember what exactly they estimated, but for sure something from real indicators, USA 15, tricks, China 16 tricks, Russia 3.5 tricks, but on at the expense of us, they believe that the underestimation is at least 2 times and really about 7 tricks, in dollars ....
              As I understand it, this is not about exaggerated paper assets, but about something real that exists, you can see and feel.
              Something like this.
              1. 0
                25 January 2022 19: 56
                And we also have a resource-time, but minke whales don’t have time, inflation is both monetary and structural, which must be defeated in March so that we don’t lose the elections in November.
                ---
                US stocks in the red zone. Let's get some more sanctions. laughing
                1. +1
                  25 January 2022 20: 16
                  I don’t want to talk about the factory of illusions and deceit, which is all this exchange, promotional rigmarole. This is for the especially gifted/inspired.
                  I was interested in this aspect in the reasoning of experts ... they argue that now minke whales are not able to maintain green at such a level that it would be the main world currency. They just can't afford it.
                  Now everything rests only on the fact that many have stocked up on green and other debt obligations of minke whales, and if it suddenly crashes, their losses will be so great that they prefer to keep it afloat by all available means.
                  This is no longer faith, this is a pure financial InterEs. And it will be stronger than any glue.
                  Those. There are no easy ways out of this situation, for almost anyone.
        2. +1
          27 January 2022 10: 00
          Quote: rocket757
          But the green is getting stronger! VERA is a great power, or rather, everything got into that greenery and

          So almost all the rulers of Western countries are co-owners of "green energy" companies (judging by the rulers of the country where I live.)
          1. +1
            27 January 2022 10: 17
            Financial, selfish interest has not been canceled ...
            Now look, it’s worth it, in the direction of the most important thing ... if new / different trends come from where, it’s only from them ...
            For now, silence, they’re not up to it ... there are much more problems in the economy, just greening everywhere and everywhere, it’s dangerous, expensive, it’s not the right time.
  6. +1
    25 January 2022 18: 31
    The Polish edition urged the West to spare no effort and means to “separate” Ukraine from Russia
    I agree. Such a kusman is torn out of the throat! angry They choked again... It's numb, we'll have to go to Poland too... But do we need it? (Wow, the Vatican is damned)
    1. +4
      25 January 2022 18: 42
      Well, yes, it seems like the Slavs, but the left. Et I, about Catholicism in Lyakhia.
      1. +1
        25 January 2022 18: 52
        Quote: GUARDIAN
        Well, yes, it seems like the Slavs, but the left. Et I, about Catholicism in Lyakhia.

        Well, left-right, it's like hay-straw. And the Poles are reminiscent of "The Taming of the Shrew": "Door - blanket - window .... window - blanket - door!" Everyone goes through you and is not very interested in your opinion. And it is right. Having such a geography, having a Western vector for 1000 years, one cannot understand that it is destroying Poland. fool The Vatican is a bone in the brain of Poland.
        1. 0
          25 January 2022 18: 54
          Well, something like this.
        2. 0
          25 January 2022 19: 10
          Was it not our John Paul 2 who canonized Stepinac?
  7. -2
    25 January 2022 18: 34
    For an independent that cannot become a member of NATO, the Swedish model is quite suitable family...
    1. 0
      25 January 2022 18: 37
      Well, yes, they came, they spoiled and left.
      1. 0
        25 January 2022 18: 46
        Yes, they have already spoiled it so much that it will take five years to rake the normal authorities stupidly to rake. Why are there tons of waste paper of regulatory legal acts and other paper with Western loids. And in the country, as in that joke, there is no more sand in the desert.
    2. 0
      25 January 2022 18: 53
      Oh no, colleague. Let them better return to their original status_neutrality, with our influence, of course. All the same, our people, relatives.
      1. 0
        25 January 2022 19: 20
        They have been unrelated for 30 years. Come to your senses. 3 generations have grown up hating Russia and everything Russian.
        1. +1
          25 January 2022 19: 35
          You yourself know that this is not true. And perhaps the only native people for Russians. Uporotye already on skis. And ordinary people have lived and will continue to live.
          1. -1
            26 January 2022 10: 15
            Who told you this? And here "stubborn"? Look at the facts: LESS than 20 percent of Ukrainian citizens voted for the opposition bloc in the elections to the Verkhovna Rada. Where did you see "brothers" there? Neighbors, nothing more. "The generation of brothers is dead.
  8. +1
    25 January 2022 18: 40
    Did you listen to the boy's shit, but are there adults in the house?
    1. 0
      25 January 2022 18: 49
      It's over, adults. Nonci, in geyropia, adults are not held in high esteem. laughing
  9. +1
    25 January 2022 18: 49
    The Polish edition urged the West to spare no effort and means to “separate” Ukraine from Russia
    . To tear off all in a crowd, this is understandable, but to give it to whom? Isn't it the Poles? Did you want to pan again?
    In general, as they were ... well, those who are not loved even in Africa, they are not loved at all everywhere.
  10. 0
    25 January 2022 19: 16
    Well, I think that by tearing Ukraine away from Russia, the West will finally choke. And rightly so.
  11. -1
    25 January 2022 19: 17
    Hanging?! belay Yes, she is at the bottom and continues to dig intensively under herself, using "secret Ukroshumer technologies for digging the sea."
  12. +1
    25 January 2022 19: 18
    Poland, always behaves like a jackal. Calls everyone and she quietly stands on the sidelines. And they constantly beat her.)
  13. 0
    25 January 2022 19: 21
    "The Polish edition urged the West to spare no effort and means to "separate" Ukraine from Russia"...
    A golovyonka would be torn off by everyone who sows discord between the two fraternal peoples.
  14. 0
    25 January 2022 19: 48
    You can call it, only here so far the "sponsors" have internal problems
    The volume of measures that EU countries have taken to support consumers due to sharply increased energy prices is estimated at more than 21 billion euros, European Energy Commissioner Kadri Simson told reporters. https://1prime.ru/energy/20220122/835861708.html
    only prices are somehow not going to fall, so that the amount will grow, and inflation is driven up by prices ... and Vetrilo Potapych, somehow tramples, does not want to disperse Germany and Britain again consider losses due to calm
  15. +7
    25 January 2022 20: 23
    The Swedes were most surprised that now some kind of Poland teaches everyone about life, and commemorates them in vain.
  16. 0
    25 January 2022 20: 29
    It is difficult to say when the inferiority of a fragment of the Slavic world began to dominate the Poles. I see as soon as the Vatican swallowed up their top.
    But by all means they are trying to prove to their curators from the Vatican and the Anglo-Saxons that they are worthy of maintenance.
    Every Pole is terrified of being left without money.
    And if Ukraine is pulled into the Western world, then its squalor will not shine so brightly in Europe. After all, here is the proof that they made the right choice and betrayed their ancestors.
  17. -4
    25 January 2022 21: 30
    That's not enough shame for the Poles, and they are asking for something to be completely torn off this time ... for the abuse of the word "tear off" and for their genetic nonsense.
  18. 0
    25 January 2022 22: 25
    Once in history we reacted like this
  19. 0
    25 January 2022 23: 08
    The Poles do not consider Europe one hyena, they want to pull Ukrainians up to themselves - and the Europeans will be kirdyk. They will be a funny couple - a hyena plus a jackal.
    Meanwhile, Poland seems to have forgotten that she herself may soon be asked to leave the EU.
  20. 0
    26 January 2022 11: 04
    The poison of Catholicism tore the Poles from the Slavs. There is an attempt to plant Catholicism in Ukraine.