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Polish observer: The opinion of the dismissed commander-in-chief of the German Navy about Crimea and relations with Russia is shared by the German government

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Polish observer: The opinion of the dismissed commander-in-chief of the German Navy about Crimea and relations with Russia is shared by the German government

Kai-Achim Schönbach



The Polish press released an article that refers to "excessively warm relations" between the new German government and Russia. Columnist Marcin Makovsky writes that in this way "Berlin is playing a dangerous game", the result of which could be a complete lack of unity in the EU and NATO on the "Russian question". The Polish author believes that the new German government has shown "its interest in obtaining energy resources from Russia and its dependence on Moscow in this regard."

As one of the examples, Makovsky considers the sensational statement of the Commander-in-Chief of the German Navy, Kai-Achim Schönbach. As Voennoye Obozreniye has already reported, Vice Admiral of the German Navy, while in India, stated that the Russian status of Crimea is a fait accompli, and that the only thing Russian President Vladimir Putin wants from foreign colleagues is respect. In the Polish edition of WP, they complain about such words of the German Vice Admiral: “But you just need to show the respect that he demands and deserves.”

The Polish press points out that after these words, Kai-Achim Schönbach was dismissed, and the government of the Federal Republic of Germany and the command of the Bundeswehr hastened to declare that "Schoenbach's position was a personal opinion that did not coincide with the official position of Berlin." The Polish observer believes that in fact this is not the case. According to him, the opinion of the dismissed Commander-in-Chief of the German Navy about Crimea and relations with the Russian Federation is shared by many senior German officers, and shared by the German government. And Schönbach's resignation was accepted only on the basis that NATO and EU partners would not notice sentiments loyal to Russia in the German power system.

As Makovsky writes, Berlin's unwillingness to supply weapon Ukraine and impose serious anti-Russian sanctions, including blocking the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline, "is more eloquent than a thousand speeches of admirals."

A few comments from Polish readers on the material in WP:

Ever since Putin laid a pipe to the Germans, they began to think and speak Russian.

Germany and Russia are similar. They gravitate towards monarchism, are drawn to each other and, unfortunately, pose a threat to the rest of Europe.

I am disappointed with the position of Germany. Poland again finds itself between a rock and a hard place.

Western European countries do not know what it means to live next door to Russia.
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  1. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 25 January 2022 07: 33
    +33
    Germany and Russia are similar. They gravitate towards monarchism, are drawn to each other and, unfortunately, pose a threat to the rest of Europe.

    Gemaniya contains all of Europe with its subsidies...and Russia, by supplying cheap gas to Germany, helps her in this.
    Ungrateful Europe, in response, spits in the back on both the Germans and the Russians.
    It cannot go on like this for a long time ... the answer will arrive.
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 25 January 2022 07: 43
      +12
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      Gemaniya contains all of Europe with its subsidies...and Russia, by supplying cheap gas to Germany, helps her in this.
      Ungrateful Europe, in response, spits in the back on both the Germans and the Russians.

      The opinion of the dismissed Commander-in-Chief of the German Navy about Crimea and relations with Russia is also shared by the German government

      According to the complaint of the Ukrainian ambassador, the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy was fired.
      Now, on the slander of the "Polish observer" to dismiss the entire German government?
      1. Vladimir Mashkov
        Vladimir Mashkov 26 January 2022 16: 46
        0
        It is not surprising that the Polish tobacco-mongrels of the United States are dissatisfied with the independence of reasonable Germans. lol
  2. Prisoner
    Prisoner 25 January 2022 07: 40
    +10
    All reasonable people share this opinion. I don't think the majority of the world is idiots. There are many careerists and opportunists, but not fools.
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 25 January 2022 10: 00
      +4
      Quote: Captive
      All reasonable people share this opinion. I don't think the majority of the world is idiots. There are many careerists and opportunists, but not fools.

      So yes. But in addition to the topic of Crimea's belonging, in the same conversation he openly said that - "We need Russia to confront China", which voiced the common interest of the United States and the EU in the future suppression of China by economic and military methods, essentially confirming the strategy for liquidation of objectionable and dispelling the illusion that it is possible to negotiate with them. Probably he was not forgiven for the fact that while in India he said publicly what should be discussed behind the scenes.
    2. Maxim Shalak
      Maxim Shalak 26 January 2022 19: 40
      0
      More and more dumb...
  3. UPS
    UPS 25 January 2022 07: 44
    +18
    Good relations between Russia and Germany, the whole history was a nightmare for the English monarchy. Right now they will start tearing the navel to quarrel Russia with Germany.
    1. Seryoga64
      Seryoga64 25 January 2022 08: 52
      +4
      Quote: USV
      Right now they will start tearing the navel to quarrel Russia with Germany.

      They do it all the time
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  5. aszzz888
    aszzz888 25 January 2022 07: 50
    +6
    The Polish press released an article that refers to "excessively warm relations" between the new German government and Russia.
    Pshechnya really wants to take the place of Germany. Lavra to be the first beloved wife of Fashington, haunt the "hyena of Europe"
    1. Seryoga64
      Seryoga64 25 January 2022 08: 52
      0
      Quote: aszzz888
      wheat really wants to take the place of Germany

      They don't hide it
    2. volodimer
      volodimer 25 January 2022 15: 23
      +2
      Yes, it’s not so much a matter of the desire to “be a wife”, but that, with normal relations between Russia and Germany, the psheks are pushing themselves another division.
  6. rocket757
    rocket757 25 January 2022 07: 51
    +2
    Polish observer: The opinion of the dismissed commander-in-chief of the German Navy about Crimea and relations with Russia is shared by the German government
    These are not Polish observers, but some kind of extra-sorcerers ... dig into the brains of whoever they want and how they want .... fool
  7. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 25 January 2022 07: 52
    +10
    ***
    Our Crimea!

    ---


    "The Constitution of the Russian Federation" (adopted by popular vote on 12.12.1993 with amendments approved during the nationwide vote on 01.07.2020)

    Article 67,2.1-

    - "The Russian Federation ensures the protection of its sovereignty and territorial integrity. Actions aimed at alienating part of the territory of the Russian Federation, as well as calls for such actions, are not allowed."

    ---


    ***
    1. Seryoga64
      Seryoga64 25 January 2022 08: 56
      +2
      Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
      Our Crimea!

  8. Pandiurin
    Pandiurin 25 January 2022 08: 06
    +10

    "Germany and Russia are similar. They gravitate towards monarchism, are drawn to each other and, unfortunately, pose a threat to the rest of Europe."



    "Ever since Putin led the pipe to the Germans, they began to think and speak Russian."


    Chuyka did not disappoint the Poles, it is not in vain that they hate both Russians and Germans.
    After all, Russians and Germans are similar, but the Germans are not actually Germans, but much worse, they are Russians. And the Germans think in Russian.

    The country of the Poles is only not correctly located between Germany and Russia. It would be much better for them to be somewhere closer to the British, such as Polish Scotland.
    1. Seryoga64
      Seryoga64 25 January 2022 08: 57
      -1
      Quote: Pandiurin
      They gravitate towards monarchism,

      But what does monarchism have to do with it? request
    2. carpenter
      carpenter 25 January 2022 09: 05
      +5
      Quote: Pandiurin
      The country of the Poles is only not correctly located between Germany and Russia.

      Poland is located very correctly, and this can be seen in the example from 1772 to 1919.
  9. dauria
    dauria 25 January 2022 08: 07
    +7
    Western European countries do not know what it means to live next door to Russia.

    But they know very well what it means to live next door to Poland.
    1. Seryoga64
      Seryoga64 25 January 2022 08: 59
      -1
      Quote: dauria
      But they know very well what it means to live next door to Poland.

      I wonder why it is so bad for him to live next to us?
      Do we pinch his ass every hour?
      1. dauria
        dauria 25 January 2022 12: 14
        -6
        I wonder why it is so bad for him to live next to us?

        And you ask those of your neighbors who divided Poland five !!!! once.
        1772, 1792, 1795, 1815, 1939
        Why did it happen ?
        1. Seryoga64
          Seryoga64 25 January 2022 12: 21
          +1
          Quote: dauria
          And you ask those of your neighbors who divided Poland five !!!! once

          The most beautiful Polish cities were saved from destruction and everyone is unhappy
        2. K9_SWAT
          K9_SWAT 25 January 2022 15: 44
          +4
          1) Study the history for a start, why it was divided and why the merit of the gentry itself is in this.
          2) in 1939 it was not divided. When Poland, after the occupation, ceased to exist as a state and became a general governorship, the Soviet Union sent an army into its own lands, which the Poles themselves occupied in 1920.
        3. Sergey Z.
          Sergey Z. 25 January 2022 21: 58
          +2
          Nefig was to come to Moscow with troops. And let them bow to Stalin, do not forget who revived their country ... (on our heads).
        4. Sergey.D
          Sergey.D 26 January 2022 04: 59
          +2
          But didn’t Poland itself divide its neighbors, Russia in troubled times, 1812, 1920s, Czechoslovakia after the Munich Agreement, Germany after 1945?
  10. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 25 January 2022 08: 36
    +6
    I think there are those in the Polish government who recognize this, but so far they are silent - barking from across the ocean is not allowed.
  11. APASUS
    APASUS 25 January 2022 08: 43
    +6
    Germany is the economic locomotive of Europe. The stronger the blow to Russia, the more the EU economy will weaken. That's why the Germans, as the main buyers of Russian raw materials, talk a lot and do practically nothing. The Germans will get the scribe first
  12. Egoza
    Egoza 25 January 2022 08: 47
    +7
    The opinion of the dismissed Commander-in-Chief of the German Navy about Crimea and relations with the Russian Federation is shared by many senior German officers, and shared by the German government.

    Yes, and ordinary Germans think the same way. They are tired of Ukraine, its policies, demands and insults. Even Klitschko managed to “come out” with accusations of betrayal. And they answered...
    “Demands, insults and threats. This country with its politicians wants to determine whether Nord Stream 2 will be launched or not? This country with its politicians wants to join NATO, the EU and demands the euro? This politician missed too many blows to the face,” said Kleiner_Olaf.
  13. Pereira
    Pereira 25 January 2022 08: 51
    0
    The Poles are again uncomfortable. Cruel cruel world.
  14. know
    know 25 January 2022 08: 56
    +6
    Moreover, no one doubts whether Crimea belongs to Russia. Even Zelensky, Kulyaba and others. Here, as with transvestites and LBGTs: you can think whatever you like, but you must "lick" them at every convenient and inconvenient occasion. Otherwise, they will hunt you down, like the same JK Rowling.
  15. carpenter
    carpenter 25 January 2022 09: 02
    +8
    The Polish observer believes that in fact this is not the case. According to him, the opinion of the dismissed Commander-in-Chief of the German Navy about Crimea and relations with the Russian Federation is shared by many senior German officers, and shared by the German government.

    The Polish observer himself confirmed that the German government has its own opinion, unlike the Polish one, which thinks not with its own head, but with the head of Jane Psaki.
  16. DymOk_v_dYmke
    DymOk_v_dYmke 25 January 2022 09: 03
    +4
    Germany and Russia are similar. They gravitate towards monarchism, are drawn to each other and, unfortunately, pose a threat to the rest of Europe.

    A wonderful illustration of European unity.
  17. Vana Catu
    Vana Catu 25 January 2022 09: 23
    +2
    And in the government of Germany, too, there are sober-minded people.
  18. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 25 January 2022 10: 03
    +3
    Polish columnist
    It turns out that it is not in vain that Poland is fighting for leadership in Europe. They "know" everything about everyone, and they see it only from their Russophobic belfry.
    Ever since Putin laid a pipe to the Germans, they began to think and speak Russian.
    The toad presses, and thoroughly. And how we would like to dispose of Russian gas and distribute it throughout Europe. For the sake of this, they are ready to speak Russian themselves. But it remains to be content with half-empty terminals for American LNG.
    Western European countries do not know what it means to live next door to Russia.
    But Germany and France know perfectly well how the campaigns against Russia end.
  19. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 25 January 2022 10: 10
    +5
    As Makovsky writes, Berlin's unwillingness to supply weapons to Ukraine and impose serious anti-Russian sanctions,.
    It's just that the Germans are well aware of the prospect of jumpers, and therefore they sent a field hospital and a mobile crematorium to Ukraine, i.e. exactly what they need. Honestly.
  20. IVF as
    IVF as 25 January 2022 12: 35
    +3
    And the Poles understand that it’s them, together with the Baltic states and dill, and they escalate the situation, and after the fight they start whining that they were offended, learn history, I’ll call your mother to school
  21. Yuri Siritsky_2
    Yuri Siritsky_2 25 January 2022 13: 17
    +4
    Psheks have always been poop, so you should not pay attention to another freak.
  22. neurostimulator
    neurostimulator 25 January 2022 14: 33
    -4
    The Poles are unhappy ... this is not news, this is natural.
    But it was not good for you to climb into NATO with a holey fly. They don't respect you now - and neither will we. Now they will deal with Germany, but not with you ... no matter what it seems to you next.
  23. Pipa Suriname
    Pipa Suriname 25 January 2022 20: 06
    +1
    Well, I got one smart among the Germans, and even that was kicked out. Some kind of cook, like Tikhanovskaya, is in charge of the army there, so the most interesting thing for them, like for all of Europe, is yet to come.
  24. Paladin
    Paladin 26 January 2022 16: 35
    +1
    Western European countries do not know what it means to live next door to Russia.


    Poles to reduce ambition and ambition from sea to sea, then it would become easier to live and not only next to Russia, but in general, easier and simpler. Then the hammer and anvil gradually disappeared from nightmares))