“Able to work in the absence of GPS”: robotic convoys are being created for the US Army

January 22 2022

The American army, trying to use advances in robotics to form convoys, eventually made great strides in this direction.

At the height of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, explosives planted by insurgents maimed and killed both military personnel and civilians, targeting convoys carrying troops and supplies.

- indicated in the National Defense publication.

To combat this threat, the Pentagon has invested billions of dollars in improving vehicle mine protection. In parallel, the development of leader-follower technology was underway, designed to create automated columns and reduce the number of soldiers involved in transportation.

In 2021, the army tested the novelty. There are currently 40 M1075 PLS trucks (PLS stands for “pallet loading system”), which are controlled by specially created LF 1.3 software that links vehicles into a single network. The development is planned to be used not only for transportation, but also for other purposes, for example, for rocket fire from mobile platforms.

At this stage, automated trucks "taught" how to create a column (of 7-8 cars), park in a line, and maneuver with a trailer in reverse. Further improvement of the technology, the development of which has been carried out since 1999, is being carried out.

Later, a decision will be made to increase the capabilities and mass production of an optionally manned system.

- stated in the Pentagon.

Leader-follower technology has matured significantly over the years and is at a stage where it can begin to be deployed [to the military]

- consider in Robotic Research company.

At the same time, as the developer points out, there are still some problems and opportunities for improving the system, for example, its adaptation for off-road driving. According to the company, the change of opponents of Washington does not detract from the importance of the new technology for the US Army:

The Pentagon has shifted its focus from counterinsurgency operations to great power competition, viewing Russia and China as adversaries. However, there is still a need for leader-follower technology. Thanks to it, combat vehicles and other equipment are able to work autonomously in the absence of GPS.

- explained in Robotic Research.

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Andrey Moskvin 22 January 2022 17: 39
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So many years they fought with terrorists, now it turned out, with the rebels.
1. mitroha 22 January 2022 17: 53
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  consider at Robotic Research.
  
  explained in Robotic Research.
  
  Clear, clear ... Advertising is the engine of trade ..
  Don't praise yourself...
  its adaptation for off-road driving
  
  Without it, only pizza delivery
  1. DymOk_v_dYmke 22 January 2022 18: 16
    
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    Without it, only pizza delivery
    
    With the motto: "Through thorns to pizzas!"
  2. Shurik70 22 January 2022 18: 19
    
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    To mine such a car and send it to the target is just a dream for a terrorist.
    We don't need a kamikaze suicide bomber. And jamming communications, like protection against kamikaze drones, will not help.
    1. DymOk_v_dYmke 22 January 2022 18: 49
      
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      To mine such a car and send it to the target is just a dream for a terrorist.
      
      In the 80s in the USSR there was a programmable toy "Electronics" with sufficient functions for this.
      1. Shurik70 22 January 2022 18: 54
        
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        In the 80s in the USSR there was a programmable toy "Electronics" with sufficient functions for this
        
        For 300 km to send on the roads, and so that traffic rules are observed to the target - this is still more difficult than "Electronics".
        Here is a flying drone for the same 300 km "Electronics" will cope. But he is cut off by radars from afar and easily gets lost
        
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        For 300 km to send on the roads, and so that traffic rules are observed to the target - this is still more difficult than "Electronics".
        
        For terrorists (or partisans), the distances are rather not 300 km, but to the nearest copse.
        
        Shurik70 23 January 2022 09: 40
        
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        For terrorists (or partisans), the distances are rather not 300 km, but to the nearest copse.
        
        If they are trying to remain anonymous, then only the gunner will be near the place of the operation, he is also an observer, fixing the damage done. Namely, there are more and more such "anonymous"
        
        Reserve officer 22 January 2022 23: 36
        
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        One electromagnetic pulse, system failure. Violation of traffic rules. But then there are problems - and with whom from the traffic police to communicate in the style: "commander, well, can we agree on how much from me?" Not? Then to the impound.
2. NDR-791 22 January 2022 18: 16
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  now it turned out, with the rebels.
  
  These are "not theirs" - spies, but "theirs" - scouts.
  1. AUL 22 January 2022 18: 28
    
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    There are currently 40 M1075 PLS trucks (PLS stands for Pallet Loading System),
    The pallet loading system is a double-edged sword. Greatly speeds up loading and unloading (if there is a self-loading mechanic), but greatly reduces the payload ratio!
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      The pallet loading system is a double-edged sword.
      
      Even a large elephant should be eaten in small pieces. I understand that they have as much money as they need, but first you need to get there, and only then load and unload. And still no way to get there
yuriy55 22 January 2022 17: 47
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Yes, in the USSR back in 1981 it was:
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Zoldat_A 22 January 2022 17: 59
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However, there is still a need for leader-follower technology. Thanks to it, combat vehicles and other equipment are able to work autonomously in the absence of GPS.

There was so much squealing that finally the equipment does not drive by itself, not where the drunk driver wants, but where the GPS will indicate. Made it finally...

Now a new technological breakthrough is a technique that can drive without GPS. Hooray...
1. NDR-791 22 January 2022 18: 21
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  Now a new technological breakthrough is a technique that can drive without GPS.
  
  Bullshit!!! My UAZ can drive without GLONASS. It has cable cruise control - pulled it out, and go to bed. Where the fuck is he going to get out of the rut.
  Well, these are all bearded jokes, but with KAMAZ it’s not even head to head. KAMAZ is already far around the corner, and not alone. Just brag is not the topic. And so it is in the network. Caravans are already moving, quite industrial ones.
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    Caravans are already moving, quite industrial ones.
    
    I saw on one of the educational channels a cycle of programs "Mega Machines" (or something like that name). They showed bourgeois super-duper tractors pulling a road train for almost a kilometer. Who interferes? Is it necessary to break the brain with drones and some kind of "leader-follower"?
    How does Toyota differ from the classic VAZ in that there is practically nowhere to climb with a screwdriver and nothing to temporarily fasten with a wire, so have they already forgotten what a “rigid hitch” is? In Australia, for example, they still remember. And somehow they manage without new technologies, a "rigid hitch".
    Six boxes. The article, using "advanced technology", talks about 7-8. And not "boxes on wheels", but about quite full-fledged unmanned trucks stuffed with electronics ... "British scientists", what can I say ... They are not used to counting money for "research".
2. nobody75 22 January 2022 19: 36
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  Geopositioning will most likely be through Starlink.
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a robot is needed in order to replace a person, and if there are only kidors around the amers, they are not needed
Kesha1980 22 January 2022 18: 17
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.At the height of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, explosives planted by insurgents maimed and killed both military personnel and civilians

"Therefore, we left there, having arranged the maximum possible problems for this Afghanistan and its geographical neighbors)" . NATO Army! Haven't everything been destroyed yet? Then we go to you! And yes, we sell "the same explosives"! Everything for Democracy and everything for Democracy (the main thing is away from the USA)!
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Yes, throw it into the GTA, there are a lot of mechanical drivers disappearing. They will remotely carry out whatever you want).
The tractor is excellent, not like KTL.
1. Sergey Aleksandrovich 22 January 2022 18: 45
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  Indeed, in the presence of a stable channel, communications are easier and more reliable to manage remotely than to rely entirely on artificial intelligence.
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    Indeed, in the presence of a stable channel, communications are easier and more reliable to manage remotely than to rely entirely on artificial intelligence.
    
    With modern means, these same communication channels are cut down at a time ...
    1. nobody75 22 January 2022 19: 35
      
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      Not always. Laser communication systems cannot be disabled ...
      Sincerely
      1. alexey sidykin 22 January 2022 19: 48
        
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        Not always. Laser communication systems cannot be disabled ...
        Sincerely
        
        And are they reliable? Of course, I myself don’t know, but I haven’t heard anything about the massive use of such systems.
        
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        What do you mean by reliability? Ragged ping or packet sniffing?
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        alexey sidykin 23 January 2022 12: 10
        
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        By reliability, I mean "but will these funds fail at the most inopportune moment simply because of a banal failure"
        
        nobody75 23 January 2022 12: 41
        
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        The Internet at your place does not disappear due to a banal failure ...
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  2. Secutor 22 January 2022 21: 32
    
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    What for? Just the autopilot as in Tesla looks more promising. The car drives itself, recognizes the road itself, no GPS, no channels. She further steers herself according to internal maps.
    1. nobody75 23 January 2022 12: 42
      
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      For electronic maps, geopositioning is still necessary ...
      Sincerely
Viktor Sergeev 22 January 2022 18: 41
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Stunned, they remembered the cards. While the Americans are making cards in the memory of robots, we are changing the landscape.
alexey sidykin 22 January 2022 19: 08
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What's the point..? I knocked out the leader and the whole column stood up, I don’t want to be sloppy ...
1. Crimean partisan 1974 22 January 2022 19: 28
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  What's the point..? He knocked out the leader and the whole column stood up,
  .... and the closing one and water with a plumbum
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    What's the point..? He knocked out the leader and the whole column stood up,
    .... and the closing one and water with a plumbum
    
    And why is the last one ... they are like chickens behind the clunes where the leader is there and all the leader got up and the column got up ...
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      And why the closing one ..
      ..how why ... so that for sure ... suddenly some kind of such thing wanders into the electronic brain ... and that's it ... a castle ... what does the middle need not be shot, but marred as trophies
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        And why the closing one ..
        ..how why ... so that for sure ... suddenly some kind of such thing wanders into the electronic brain ... and that's it ... a castle ... what does the middle need not be shot, but marred as trophies
        
        Well, just in case...
        
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        Well, just in case.
        .... well, yes ... most of the equipment that was squeezed out from the APU of the DPR was squeezed out in this way
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Not even thirty years have passed since the Americans repeated the German Convoy system. Back in the 90s, I saw commercials in Germany. from me, in fact, he just starts reading the newspaper. It’s only with us in the back seat to the girl, we call this system Kolya. And how much dough did the Americans drink?
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  Not even thirty years have passed since the Americans repeated the German Convoy system. Back in the 90s, I saw commercials in Germany. from me, in fact, he just starts reading the newspaper. It’s only with us in the back seat to the girl, we call this system Kolya. And how much dough did the Americans drink?
  
  Why did they drink? After all, it is written, they are being created. It appears that the cut is going on concrete and with might and main ... Well, then they will say it didn’t work out ...
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    And then they say it didn't work...
    
    That's how development is going on. Remember how many different things the USSR did that "Didn't work out." No really new solutions can be found without trial and error.
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      And then they say it didn't work...
      
      That's how development is going on. Remember how many different things the USSR did that "Didn't work out." No really new solutions can be found without trial and error.
      
      And therefore it didn’t work out that by 2/3 this was a cut of the budget, what we have under the USSR, what the Americans have now, and now we have it too. There is no planned result from the very beginning.
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Russian Railways has been testing the technology of a virtual train for several years, when 2 trains move one after the other, under the control of one brigade. The driven train repeats the actions of the leader in binding at the location, that is, the leader can already finish the climb and go to a flat area, while the follower, going up the hill, increases traction, where it is necessary to pour sand - that is, performs all the necessary actions, with this maintains the distance to the leader's tail at a safe level. The follower also knows how to arrive at the station, leave the station, and the like. Positioning - by GLONASS
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And how to be on a road not equipped with beacons? Or will these columns be marched only in their own rear?
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Since the 90s, competitions have been held in America between universities to create a completely unmanned aerial vehicle, without any zips and radio control. drive from point a to point b, 200 kilometers. The prize for the winner is 100 thousand dollars. All developments were done by the students at their own expense.
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And what for a robotic cabin? Yes, and with glasses?
1. alexey sidykin 23 January 2022 12: 58
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  And what for a robotic cabin? Yes, and with glasses?
  
  So there, from the robotic, only equipment, and they took the usual car.
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    This approach is flawed in principle. Unmanned aerial vehicles have opportunities of a completely different quality when you do not need to take care of the safety and comfort of the driver. It is possible to design a structure that can continue to move with a full rollover, multiple damage and completely covered with dirt.
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The Internet at your place does not disappear due to a banal failure ...
Sincerely

So I don’t have laser systems ... And yes, with the Internet every now and then there are problems because mobile communication is a pancake ... and the alternative is a fiber optic cable ... again, at least a laser, but not that.
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Will GLONASS remain?