Vice Speaker of the Senate of Poland: I would be surprised if the Russians decided to start a war

Deputy Chairman (Marshal) of the Senate of Poland Michal Kaminsky commented on the situation around Ukraine and the general security situation in Europe in an interview with Polish journalists. Michal Kaminsky was once a member of the European Parliament, headed the political platform of the European conservatives, today he is one of the key figures in the Polish Sejm.

The vice-marshal (vice-speaker) of the Polish Sejm, who has his own profession as a journalist, stated the following:

The current situation is such that Russia has something to lose and the West has something to lose. But in the event of an escalation, Russia will lose more than the West.

According to Michal Kaminsky, he would be surprised if "the Russians decided to start a war." At the same time, Kaminsky adds that the situation is so uncertain that the usual logic may not work.

The vice-marshal of the Polish Sejm notes that the situation is complicated for the West by the fact that there is no unity in it. Different countries of the same European Union have their own points of view on Russia's demands for providing security guarantees. As Kaminsky states, such a discord "in the 1930s cost Europe dearly."

Vice Speaker of the Sejm of Poland:

I want everyone in our country to understand today: Poland is safe only because it is in large alliances. These are the EU and NATO.

Kaminsky expresses confidence that there would be no question of any security for Poland if the country had not joined these international organizations at one time.

The Polish parliamentarian notes that for Poland it will be a “disastrous” option in which Russia's demands for the withdrawal of foreign NATO contingent from Eastern Europe will be implemented.

Recall that on the eve of the 1,5-hour talks with Anthony Blinken, Sergey Lavrov noted that Russia is in favor of the withdrawal of NATO troops from the territory of Bulgaria and Romania.

Michal Kaminsky:

The situation today is highly uncertain. The specter of an invasion may be very real.

It should be noted that NATO announced a few hours ago that they would not withdraw the contingent from the countries of Eastern Europe.

Comments

[Tusv]

Down with the NATO invaders. Freedom for Poland and the EU from American invaders. So it is necessary, and not to mumble the West, then the West, that. Jozhik understands that the West lo

[Orel]

Quote: Tusv

Down with the NATO invaders. Freedom for Poland and the EU from American invaders.

Slogans only shake the air, it makes no sense

[Tusv]

Quote: Orel

Slogans only shake the air, it makes no sense

Don't say. It all starts with slogans / Let's say white life matter walked around America not sickly

[Orel]

Quote: Tusv

Don't say. It all starts with slogans / Let's say white life matter walked around America not sickly

The Poles will not leave NATO and the EU in the foreseeable future. Here only if NATO and the EU self-destruct, which is also not expected, so the slogans will not help anyway)

[Tusv]

Quote: Orel

The Poles will not leave NATO and the EU in the foreseeable future.

Well, figs with them. Our first task is for NATO to dissolve itself. To give concessions to one, to tighten the screws on others. And pass sentences in accordance with the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation Article 354.

[Orel]

Quote: Tusv

Well, figs with them. Our first task is for NATO to dissolve itself.

Our most important task is to develop our economy and the creative potential of our people, science, culture, and solve people's problems. It makes no sense to spend a lot of time, money and effort on something that depends on us to an extremely negligible degree.

[Tusv]

Quote: Orel

Our most important task is to develop our economy and the creative potential of our people

Here I am FOR both paws. But their energy problem needs to be exacerbated. They will be more willing to build Plants and Factories with Us

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Tusv

But their energy problem needs to be exacerbated.

Here our managers are already trying with might and main. Electricity exports in 2021 grew by 97%, almost doubling.
Moreover, exports to Europe almost tripled.

[Tusv]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Here our managers are already trying with might and main. Export of electricity in 2021 increased by 97%, almost doubled

In! We are saving their industry, and they are threatening us with a war. Herods.
But Electricity is still a value-added product that remains with Us. Gas is the raw material for generating electricity from them. big difference

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Tusv

But Electricity is still a value-added product that remains with us. Gas is the raw material for generating electricity from them. big difference

So you are right, but most of the energy companies work through offshore companies. Recently, Vekselberg (T +) was brought to clean water. Samaraenergo has long been more than half owned by offshore companies. I only speak for my region.

[Tusv]

Quote: Ingvar 72

So you are right, but most of the energy companies work through offshore companies.

Well, let's consider these Jews. But! Where is the checkpoint (tax registration code) and taxes go there, because there are jobs. Thank God offshore companies cannot compete with the Federal Tax Service. The lion's share is still left in the Russian Federation

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Kaminsky is both right and NOT right. And there will be no war because it none DOES NOT want. And what will happen? Will be fast an operation to take control of Ukraine either by Russia or NATO. I hope that Russia will be more agile.

[silver_roman]

Familiarize yourself with the concept of "overton window". At the beginning, even the most crazy slogans set the foundation for the introduction of various seemingly crazy things into the masses.

[Tusv]

Quote: silver_roman

Familiarize yourself with the concept of "overton window".

I agree with you. The slogan is the simplest NLP (Neuro Linguistic Programming). And like any primitive, the consequences are not predictable

[Mouse]

Did you ask them? They are only happy to lie under the Amer invaders ....
They also enjoy...

[Astra55]

They can't do otherwise

[Mouse]

And the bed won't break...

[ser-pov]

The situation today is highly uncertain. The specter of an invasion may be very real.
By the way, the division of such a Russophobic state can also be real ... Without reunification in the future. Enough - be kind..

[K-50]

Poland is safe only because it is in large alliances. These are the EU and NATO.

And who would threaten Poland, if it were not a member of these alliances, who would encroach on its security? Martians? Tau-Kit? Or someone from Orion's belt?
They come up with all sorts of crap, they compose horror films for themselves, and then they lie under the covers and shake.

[mikh-korsakov]

Interesting girls dance. I learned that in Poland the chairman of the Sejm, a whole marshal! How. And his deputy, what's his name? Junior Marshal or something. However, I did read the article. Nothing unusual. The usual Polish combination of ambition and prostitution. I'm glad to go to bed under everyone, if only they would pay - as the song says - For a cheap buzz, for a pill, they took off Olga marafetochka

[alone]

Logic is a rather capricious thing .. Where it should be present, it rests .. Recently, this logic is being sought where it did not exist at all.
Vice-Marshal)))) Zits-Chairman nothing more ..

[Borisych]

The Poles do not think about the future. But in vain. Germany is nearby, so Russia has someone to share Poland with from sea to sea. Gypsies, please don't worry.

[AAK]

Colleague, sharing Poland with anyone is like taking half of a dead plague rat for yourself. We don’t need a tiny piece of it, let the Germans take this crap for themselves

[Denis812]

None of the citizens of Poland with whom I have communicated over the past two months believe that Russia will invade Ukraine, much less other countries.
The general opinion is to whip up hysteria in order to knock something out of Russia on the topic of concessions, to prevent SP2 and so on.
Of course, my sample cannot be considered representative :)

[Third district]

Quote: Denis812

None of the citizens of Poland with whom I have communicated over the past two months believe that Russia will invade Ukraine

Unless the massacre begins in the Donbass. And Ukraine is being prepared for it, judging by the latest news, about the supply of weapons from Britain and the United States.

[Denis812]

Even taking into account the complete pro-Westernness of those with whom I spoke, all the same, the Russian invasion of Ukraine is NOT the same as the situation if the Russian Federation sends troops in case Ukraine strikes the LDNR.
People are well aware of the situation, and even wishing for the defeat of Russia, they perfectly understand the difference.
What matters is who will be the real aggressor.

[evgen1221]

But less Wishlist zaluzhnyh need to be fulfilled, and more about your own needs for the future, you need to think. It will definitely reach Europe only when they understand and consider what they will lose and what the United States will gain from the fact that they get into a war at the request of a puddle. Rhetoric is rhetoric and die and burn Europe in the first place. So they can puff out their cheeks as much as they want and adjust the technology, but the fact of the radioactive desert quickly sets their brains, so there will not be a hot war with Europe for sure. Recognition of the Donbass of the Russian Federation and the border on the motif of the 38th parallel is the maximum that we and Europe can do in the future. Sanctions will be lifted in a race only after the fall of the gigemon, and for this the Chinese will work hard for another 20-30 years.

[cniza]

It should be noted that NATO announced a few hours ago that they would not withdraw the contingent from the countries of Eastern Europe.

Voluntarily, of course, they won’t, but under pressure they will have to ...

[Kronos]

So S Ryabkov already pressed it and said, "It's time to collect the belongings!" They are not collecting yet.

[Tagan]

Quote: Borisych

The Poles do not think about the future. But in vain.

But big dreamers

[Murmur 55]

There is a whole club of them, Poland is warmed by the thought of a country from sea to sea, Ukraine has drawn half of the south of Russia on the maps, Turkey with its khaganates or whatever, Japan drools, Tochat fangs beaten off from the Finns to Karelia. Add?!

[rotmistr60]

Poland is safe only because it is in large alliances. These are the EU and NATO.

What is obvious, according to the Poles, allows them not just to bark at Russia, but to bark to the point of a pre-infarction state. They believe that if the United States "protects" them, then Poland is also located overseas (virtually) and cannot be threatened by anything. Do they really not understand that in the event of a major military conflict in Europe, they will be the first to rake off, because. constantly provoke this conflict. They were the hyena of Europe, and they remained to her.

[Murmur 55]

You are safe (I'm talking about Poland) only because modern Russia doesn't need you from the word at all, just like the Baltic States and other Czech Republics and Slovakia, that's why you are so "brave", time is the best judge.

[yuriy55]

Vice Speaker of the Senate of Poland: I would be surprised if the Russians decided to start a war

Remark politician in the style of "kid": "Weak?"
I would be surprised if the Poles decided to fight the Russians ... I don’t know, it’s just such a feeling ...

[carpenter]

Quote: yuriy55

I would be surprised if the Poles decided to fight the Russians ... I don’t know, it’s just such a feeling ...

The Poles want to do everything by someone else's hands, but they are the main instigators in the West.

[Tank jacket]

So the gentry is not surprised when the Anglo-Saxons unleash wars and genocide on the indigenous peoples of the world? This is different .... to understand nada ... Where are the 100 million American Indians? Where is Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya?
And how many Poles served Hitler in the Wehrmacht?

[rocket757]

Vice Speaker of the Senate of Poland: I would be surprised if the Russians decided to start a war

Blah blah blah, nothing new, although everything is said sedately and calmly.

[neurostimulator]

An elephant in a china shop is not discussed by anyone ... until now.
See what Russia looks like on a map, calculate its population density and resources concentrated on its territory, summarize the information and draw a conclusion. It will be very simple - a country that has come close to population density values ​​at which the threat of losing control over its own borders begins to arise and, at the same time, within these borders is the lion's share of the natural wealth of the entire planet, from fresh water to raw materials for nuclear energy, there is NO NEED to start territorial wars with overpopulated European countries, which in fact are bare-assed. ... But Europe needs a lot of things on the territory of the Russian Federation.

[Volodin]

Quote: Neurostimulator

See what Russia looks like on a map, calculate its population density and resources concentrated on its territory, summarize the information and draw a conclusion. It will be very simple - a country that has come close to population density values ​​at which the threat of losing control over its own borders begins to arise.

This threat has always existed. Or under the tsar-father, the population density of the empire was "much higher"? ..

[neurostimulator]

You do not have a military education, you are trying to compare where you need to pay attention to what cannot be compared.
In short, for border control at a time when the mail was sent by pigeons, and the rest was carried by horses, when the deployment of the army took several months, the population density that was quite suitable.
Today, when a motorized rifle company in defense can be completely destroyed in 10 minutes, and this is without the use of WMD and tactical missile weapons, when the mobilization of troops takes a matter of hours, when the level of transport technology allows you to move multi-ton cargo anywhere in the world in a few days, when the only way to protect its territory, which can still give the desired result, there remains only the widespread permanent presence of high-tech infrastructure both at the borders and in the depths of the territory. When a high-intensity military conflict in a matter of weeks can so deplete human resources that the collapse of the state becomes inevitable ... Then the value of the minimum population density necessary to keep the state within its own borders will be completely different. ... Especially as rich and huge as Russia.
Today, with the same level of troop mobility, as well as the range and crushing power of tactical weapons, there is no longer such a thing as a "front line". To date, hostilities are being conducted between pockets of resistance, and from all sides, and not just from the front and flanks.

[Andrey Grad]

The main conclusion from these articles is this: no one in the West believes that the Russians can defend themselves.
The West will continue to carry out a hybrid offensive to the East, and the Russians, afraid of being accused of aggression, will retreat, expressing concern.

[carpenter]

Quote: Andrey Grad

The main conclusion from these articles is this: no one in the West believes that the Russians can defend themselves.

In 1938, Europe also did not believe that the Russians could defend themselves until the Banner of Victory flew over the Reichstag.

[75 Sergey]

Of course, patriotic, but everything was on the verge and it came at a great price

[neurostimulator]

This is very, very likely. Elites have gathered at the helm of the country, for whom it is easier to divide and reduce the country's wealth than to add and increase it - .. an idealess, drugged by all sorts of rubbish, a herd of stupid animals.

[carpenter]

The Polish parliamentarian notes that for Poland it will be a “disastrous” option in which Russia's demands for the withdrawal of foreign NATO contingent from Eastern Europe will be implemented.

You Poles are not afraid of Russia, but Germany, which will not forgive you Prussia and Pomerania.

[neurostimulator]

))) swear, as it is rightly said))) catch a plus sign)))

[75 Sergey]

Balabol
The specter of a NATO invasion of Russia?
So this is not a ghost, but a real threat.
And our response should be in the form of a warning that Russia reserves the right to launch a preventive nuclear strike against countries bordering the Russian Federation, in the event that troops of a non-friendly NATO military bloc begin to move on their territories.
And let them sit and be afraid to fart!

[Sands Careers General]

A preemptive strike will be at the decision-making center, overseas))

[75 Sergey]

Let's go there later!
And now let these turn in the pan.
They were offered a quiet life without NATO troops, but under the guarantee of their protection, they did not want to, well, let them turn around at night and listen - is it flying?!

[Sands Careers General]

Taki spin on a hot frying pan, no matter how the skewer breaks

[carpenter]

Quote: Tank jacket

And how many Poles served Hitler in the Wehrmacht?

In Poland, this is a "taboo", although many people still raise their glass on April 20.

[Sands Careers General]

Probably the countries of Eastern Europe like to keep the NATO occupation contingent at home, feed, drink and pay them money.
Well, it's their choice.

[tihonmarine]

According to Michal Kaminsky, he would be surprised if "the Russians decided to start a war."

And he Kaminsky is not surprised that Poland, together with Hitler, attacked Czechoslovakia in 1938?

[Mavrikiy]

Vice Speaker of the Senate of Poland: I would be surprised if the Russians decided to start a war

Well, we are not the first time to surprise the idiots who like to get into the wrong sleigh. Now they jump on the heels to Napoleon, then they stuff themselves into kunak to Hitler, now they go to Bidon in godfathers. Story does not teach, she maims them.

[jovanni]

Vice Speaker of the Senate of Poland: I would be surprised if the Russians decided to start a war

If the Russians decided to start a war for some reason, the vice-speaker of Poland most likely would not have had time to be surprised ...

[Dkuznecov]

You have to, Misha, you have to.
But you are a provocation
without her in any way.
We agreed with Xi, we need to be in time
By February 4, all questions must be completed.

[boris epstein]

"It should be noted that NATO announced a few hours ago that they would not withdraw the contingent from the countries of Eastern Europe."
This is for the press and to save face. And what will happen in reality? It is not for nothing that the Americans are asking Russia not to publish the written response of the United States to Russia. This means that there is something in it that is disadvantageous to the Americans, which the world should not know about.

[seacap]

Russia never started a single war, it always ended them, just as it never had a single colony. Tired of listening to this nonsense already, tb. replicated by its own media, vague justifications are extremely politically correct on the verge of humiliation. Why not a single so-called. a politician will not shut his throat with the facts that the same Poles exist on the map in the form of a state only and exclusively thanks to Russia, and more than once, that we bought the Baltic states, as well as independent ones, in general, we bought the territory, and these cattle along with it. Why are they silent, smearing snot on their cheeks, that those who received statehood and their very miserable existence thanks to Russian bayonets and the Russian state, now jumping out of their pants in a thirst to serve the overseas master, compete in Russophobia. The very policy of the Russian state, its new inherited estate, the new nobility, corrupt and greedy, in their desire to declare to their overseas idols that we are the same as you, we ourselves are ready to humiliate and grovel, repent and justify everything, if only they would let them in at least entrance hall, arrogantly patted on the shoulder, not realizing that they would never be their own there, that they were food for those, and the once great power betrayed by them was fertilizer. They themselves created such a state of affairs that, in fact, our own territories and our once united people became hostile and unfriendly.