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Speaker of the State Duma announced consideration of the issue of recognition of the people's republics of Donbass

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The State Duma will consider a draft appeal to Russian President Vladimir Putin on the recognition of the Donetsk and Luhansk republics. This was stated by the speaker of the State Duma Vyacheslav Volodin.


According to Volodin, the draft appeal, submitted to the State Duma by deputies of the Communist Party headed by Zyuganov, will be discussed next week with the heads of the Duma factions. As the speaker explained, preliminary consultations will be held on this issue. Only after that the project will be considered by the Council of the Duma.

As Volodin emphasized, it is necessary to look for solutions to ensure the security of the population living in the Donbass, including Russian citizens, against the backdrop of Ukraine's militant moods supported by the collective West. He noted that the Kiev authorities, led by Zelensky, are ignoring the Minsk agreements, which could lead to tragedy.

Recall that on Wednesday a group of deputies from the Communist Party headed by faction leader Gennady Zyuganov submitted to the State Duma a draft appeal to the President of Russia on the recognition of the self-proclaimed Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics as independent, sovereign and independent states. In their opinion, over the past years, democratic bodies of the state with all the attributes of legitimate power have been formed in Luhansk and Donetsk. It was emphasized that official recognition would protect the people of the republics from external threats and the policy of genocide on the part of Ukraine. In addition, it is planned that after the recognition of the republics by Russia, a mechanism for international recognition will also be launched.

The draft appeal also raises the issue of holding talks as soon as possible with the leadership of the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics on the creation of a legal basis for Russia's interstate relations with the republics.
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  1. APASUS
    APASUS 21 January 2022 09: 14
    -20
    Not on time, it was necessary to do it before. Now, apart from the next sanctions, we will not get anything.
    1. Murmur 55
      Murmur 55 21 January 2022 09: 16
      +66
      And before they recognized it, they would not have received it ??? Sanctions for the death of DINOSAURS will be sewn on us soon laughing
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 21 January 2022 09: 19
        +28
        Quote: Murmur 55
        And before they recognized it, they would not have received it ???

        We got it, there is no question of sanctions at all, we will get them even if Biden has diarrhea.
        1. Civil
          Civil 21 January 2022 10: 15
          +7
          Straight climax from 2014... 8 years
        2. Vladimir Mashkov
          Vladimir Mashkov 22 January 2022 21: 22
          -1
          Considering approval is the right decision. But with the approval, I think it’s worth waiting a bit and approving the LDNR in COMPLETE borders! smile
      2. Machito
        Machito 21 January 2022 09: 25
        0
        Here is the response to negotiations with the United States. The next step is a military alliance with the LDNR. And there is an operation to enforce peace with a free zone. Checkmate NATO.
        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard 21 January 2022 10: 15
          +4
          Quote: Bearded
          Here is the response to negotiations with the United States. The next step is a military alliance with the LDNR. And there is an operation to enforce peace with a free zone. Checkmate NATO.

          Valery Vasilyevich, is that you?! Or decided to take his place? laughing
        2. Ashes of Claes
          Ashes of Claes 21 January 2022 10: 23
          -1
          Quote: Bearded
          And there is an operation to enforce peace with a free zone.

          with a no-fly zone over what? No-fly zones are not introduced unilaterally.
          Quote: Bearded
          Checkmate NATO.

          why's that? On the contrary, it is an incentive for new members to join NATO. No swearing, the game continues.
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard 21 January 2022 10: 28
            -1
            Quote: Ashes of Klaas
            with a no-fly zone over what?

            Yes, no ... He writes about the free zone, you did not read it very carefully. laughing
          2. isv000
            isv000 21 January 2022 18: 11
            +3
            Quote: Ashes of Klaas
            No checkmate, the game continues.

            But already in Chapaev!..
        3. APASUS
          APASUS 21 January 2022 10: 44
          +4
          Quote: Bearded
          Here is the response to negotiations with the United States.

          This is not quite an answer, this is a warning to the Americans in case the Armed Forces of Ukraine decide to go on the offensive.
          1. flicker
            flicker 21 January 2022 15: 24
            +2
            this is a warning to the Americans, in case the APU decides to go on the offensive.
            Most likely this is the case.
        4. TovSaaakhov
          TovSaaakhov 21 January 2022 10: 46
          -5
          Rather, it will be the other way around.
        5. isv000
          isv000 21 January 2022 18: 10
          -2
          Quote: Bearded
          And there is an operation to enforce peace with a free zone. Checkmate NATO.

          And in the paid sector, the VIP zone will be located, for Ze and Gunpowder associates?
      3. the most important
        the most important 21 January 2022 09: 31
        +29
        Quote: Murmur 55
        Sanctions for the death of DINOSAURS will be sewn on us soon

        Therefore, it is necessary not to recognize two regions, but to recognize the authorities in the LDNR as the legitimate authorities of ALL Ukraine. And what is not yet subordinate to Donetsk is considered temporarily occupied.
        1. Servisinzhener
          Servisinzhener 21 January 2022 10: 23
          +7
          I agree. The same USA with hangers-on does this. recognizing the legitimate authority of their supporters in the country they need.
          1. isv000
            isv000 21 January 2022 18: 15
            +6
            Quote: Servisinzhener
            I agree. The same USA with hangers-on does this. recognizing the legitimate authority of their supporters in the country they need.

            Isn't it time to go from the ace? It's time for Yanyk to work off his bread/salt, to come in as a legitimate president from exile.
        2. sustav75
          sustav75 21 January 2022 11: 43
          -4
          Putin's gut is thin! He endured humiliation for so many years, and then suddenly he becomes a hawk? As long as he has Sechin, Chubais and Rotenberg as his advisers, do not expect a battle cry from him.
          1. isv000
            isv000 21 January 2022 18: 16
            -1
            Quote: sustav75
            As long as he has Sechin, Chubais and Rotenberg as his advisers, do not expect a battle cry from him.

            The Decree on conferring the Hero of Labor on Miller was signed...
      4. Tank hard
        Tank hard 21 January 2022 10: 13
        +8
        That's the point. Admit it, don't admit it, it's all one sanction. Then what were they pulling? However, the question is rhetorical. They were afraid. laughing
        1. igor67
          igor67 21 January 2022 11: 41
          -2
          Quote: Tank Hard
          That's the point. Admit it, don't admit it, it's all one sanction. Then what were they pulling? However, the question is rhetorical. They were afraid. laughing

          There is one more question - Ukraine's entry into NATO, they will find loopholes and accept them into the bloc, then: do you need to voice it?
          1. isv000
            isv000 21 January 2022 18: 21
            +3
            Quote: igor67
            There is one more question - Ukraine's entry into NATO, they will find loopholes and accept them into the bloc, then: do you need to voice it?

            With their bureaucracy, the signing process for joining NATO will end due to the death of Ukraine...
        2. Volkov
          Volkov 21 January 2022 12: 57
          +7
          And what about the sanctions? A more pressing issue is the boundaries within which republics should be recognized. If the borders are actual, the rest of the Lugansk and Donetsk regions are torn away. If along the administrative borders, then there is the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
          1. Grits
            Grits 21 January 2022 13: 34
            +9
            Quote: Volkov
            And what about the sanctions? A more pressing issue is the boundaries within which republics should be recognized. If the borders are actual, the rest of the Lugansk and Donetsk regions are torn away. If along the administrative borders, then there is the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

            I think this is the very reason to finally roll up this idiotic power in Ukraine. Namely, the recognition of the LDNR within the borders of the former republics. Further - the announcement that half of the territory is occupied. With the advancing of the demand to clear this territory of the Hoh-Lama in a good way in a healthy way. Next - a request to Russia for military assistance, which will also be received. And that's it .... The Armed Forces of Ukraine will cease to exist in a few days, if they do not fall down on time.
            Next are two options. Either all the "Zelensky" with the "valtsman" quickly pack their suitcases with gold and manage to get to Boryspil with the desire to fly to the Canadian border, or "cotton wool" in blue berets descends over Kiev and takes them under white hands. Further, new authorities are formed, everyone goes home - the concert is over.
      5. Pravodel
        Pravodel 21 January 2022 10: 17
        +6
        Sanctions for the death of DINOSAURS will be sewn on us soon

        Well, they will think about the death of dinosaurs for a long time, but for the extermination of bison and Indians in America, they can definitely sew them on ... Well, it wasn’t the Americans who exterminated them ... It was the damned Russians who made their way into the even formation of the Americans and shot the poor bison and Indians, so that everyone they thought that the Americans were doing it, who just defended the bison and Indians from the Russians, so much so that there were too few bison and Indians left in all of America.
      6. sustav75
        sustav75 21 January 2022 11: 37
        +2
        The patiently enduring ones will be constantly presented with new sanctions! Concerned expressionists will forever be bent over! Even Lavrov admitted that Putin is the world champion in patience. For a very long time GDP harnessed. It is high time for the great harnesser to go. Oh long time ago...
      7. neurostimulator
        neurostimulator 21 January 2022 12: 12
        +1
        About dinosaurs - this is rightly noticed. M. Zadornov said a lot from the stage, who the Yankees are and how others see them - you just need to continue doing it ... for a start.
        Hopelessly sick and completely dissolute people cannot be "cured" with a kind word.
      8. shtatsov
        shtatsov 21 January 2022 13: 55
        +4
        At the expense of dinosaurs will not prove! There are no clues on our territory! But mammoths can hang on us)))
      9. isv000
        isv000 21 January 2022 18: 07
        +1
        Quote: Murmur 55
        And before they recognized it, they would not have received it ??? Sanctions for the death of DINOSAURS will be sewn on us soon laughing

        It seems to me that the Communist Party of the Russian Federation launched this duck on instructions from above, to sway the nervous system of Western "partners" before Sleepy Joe's negotiations with Putin ...
    2. Nexcom
      Nexcom 21 January 2022 09: 17
      +19
      and what, give the Donetsk people to be torn to pieces then? they will cut them all.
      about that they dragged on for a long time with the issue of recognition - I agree with you.
    3. Alexander Seklitsky
      Alexander Seklitsky 21 January 2022 09: 17
      +19
      And we will get them anyway. And about recognition ... better late than never
    4. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 21 January 2022 09: 19
      +6
      The draft appeal also raises the issue of holding talks as soon as possible with the leadership of the Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics on the creation of a legal basis for Russia's interstate relations with the republics.

      And lately, none of the American states was going to become sovereign and independent from Fashington?
      It would be nice to recognize this and make friends!
      1. alex neym_2
        alex neym_2 21 January 2022 09: 47
        +2
        I was going, or going, and not even one - I don’t remember which / which ones ...
        1. Cypa
          Cypa 21 January 2022 10: 22
          +4
          First of all Texas
      2. Tochilka
        Tochilka 21 January 2022 10: 19
        +7
        Texas must be free! good
    5. Yuri T.
      Yuri T. 21 January 2022 09: 23
      +26
      Sanctions are not specifically for Crimea, Donbass or Syria.
      And for the fact that the teeth have grown again and we do not allow predators to eat ourselves with impunity. Yes, and others, too.
    6. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 21 January 2022 10: 01
      +5
      Quote: APASUS
      Not on time, it was necessary to do it before. Now, apart from the next sanctions, we will not get anything.

      in spite of everyone .. the war of nerves has begun.
    7. Servisinzhener
      Servisinzhener 21 January 2022 10: 21
      +2
      I agree, but in part. Yes, it was necessary before and all. But better late than never.
    8. neurostimulator
      neurostimulator 21 January 2022 12: 09
      0
      Everything has already become so unacceptably bad that “on time” is no longer the main thing here, the main thing is to be recognized as soon as possible.
    9. den3080
      den3080 21 January 2022 12: 16
      0
      Quote: APASUS
      Not on time, it was necessary to do it before. Now, apart from the next sanctions, we will not get anything.

      For Mr. Zyuga, just in time.
      It is necessary to wash off somehow from the outrages of Comrade Chebu Rashkin.
      Or rather, try to cover up the Cheburashkin canoe with a patriotic impulse.
      Such is the communist cynicism, nothing more.
  2. rocket757
    rocket757 21 January 2022 09: 17
    +16
    Speaker of the State Duma announced consideration of the issue of recognition of the people's republics of Donbass
    All imperfections, sooner or later, catch up and become across.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 21 January 2022 09: 36
      +10
      Quote: rocket757
      All imperfections

      My classmate in Gorlovka can't get a Russian passport, there is a queue... We recognize the LDNR, maybe things will go faster!
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 21 January 2022 09: 46
        +10
        Let's hope that they will begin to correct what is long overdue and overripe!
        People cannot live only with hopes, they need real deeds for the good, and not against.
      2. isv000
        isv000 21 January 2022 18: 33
        +1
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        My classmate in Gorlovka can't get a Russian passport, there is a queue... We recognize the LDNR, maybe things will go faster!

        All officials responsible for creating queues for citizenship should be assigned to the first line of trenches - so that the slurry would flow from the back, do not give a wash!
  3. pexotinec
    pexotinec 21 January 2022 09: 19
    +12
    As I understand it, the recognition of the republics may be followed by the entry of peacekeeping forces.
    1. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 21 January 2022 09: 32
      +15
      All right, recognition should be on the border of 2014.
      1. Servisinzhener
        Servisinzhener 21 January 2022 10: 24
        +7
        On the border of the USSR.
    2. isv000
      isv000 21 January 2022 18: 34
      -1
      Quote: pexotinec
      As I understand it, the recognition of the republics may be followed by the entry of peacekeeping forces.

      First, the entry of the LDNR into the CSTO.
  4. riwas
    riwas 21 January 2022 09: 21
    +11
    Speaker of the State Duma announced consideration of the issue of recognition of the people's republics of Donbass

    Almost a formality, because Ukraine did not comply, does not comply and is not going to comply with the Minsk agreements.
  5. Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 21 January 2022 09: 22
    +4
    In addition, it is planned that after the recognition of the republics by Russia, a mechanism will be launched for international recognition
    .It won’t start especially ... Yes, and while this is a project, will the Duma accept it? It seems that the project will be sent for revision after consideration.
    1. Ashes of Claes
      Ashes of Claes 21 January 2022 10: 39
      -2
      Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
      .Yes, and while this is a project, will the Duma accept it? It seems that the project will be sent for revision after consideration.

      Of course. The passionary initiative will be terminated, and the output will be a "light" variant.
      1. Daniil Konovalenko
        Daniil Konovalenko 21 January 2022 11: 25
        -1
        the output will be the "light" option
        At exactly
        1. Ashes of Claes
          Ashes of Claes 21 January 2022 11: 37
          -2
          besides, the initiative does not come from the ruling party, which is remarkable. In my opinion, they can stick a certain contingent, calling it "peacekeeping". Of course, his main role is to provoke an attack on himself in the event that the UA is ripe for the offensive. Well, then it's clear.
    2. sustav75
      sustav75 21 January 2022 11: 51
      -1
      The fact that this project was not submitted by "United Russia" already speaks volumes. Zyuganov was asked from above, let the Ukrainians and the Amers drive a little thought ... The Communist Party of the Russian Federation will not lose or gain from this. She is handmade...
  6. yuriy55
    yuriy55 21 January 2022 09: 24
    +10
    It's just that the time has come ... Stop whining about sanctions ... They will always find a reason to impose them. Russia must act according to the circumstances ...
    And the Russians should not abandon their own!
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 21 January 2022 09: 57
      +8
      Quote: yuriy55
      They will always find a reason to introduce them. Russia must act according to the circumstances ...
      And the Russians should not abandon their own!

      Yes, they will introduce them without a reason, in advance. And the Republic must be recognized and immediately invited to the CSTO. And there the peacekeepers will figure out who is against the civilian population.
      1. yuriy55
        yuriy55 21 January 2022 09: 59
        +9
        Quote: Egoza
        And the Republic must be recognized and immediately invited to the CSTO.

        That would be the most original solution... good
    2. Tank hard
      Tank hard 21 January 2022 10: 18
      0
      Quote: yuriy55
      And the Russians should not abandon their own!

      1. yuriy55
        yuriy55 21 January 2022 10: 22
        +1
        Tank Hard (Daniel von Messer)!!!
        He is not Russian... laughing
        Here's a listen to lift your spirits:
        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard 21 January 2022 10: 26
          0
          So, I already fell in love with fairy tales in childhood. wink
          1. yuriy55
            yuriy55 21 January 2022 10: 36
            -1
            Quote: Tank Hard
            So, I already fell in love with fairy tales in childhood.

            You need to love fairy tales all your life - they contain folk wisdom. laughing
  7. FoBoss_V
    FoBoss_V 21 January 2022 09: 27
    +8
    It’s a shame, of course, that in 2014 Luhansk, Kharkov and Donetsk were not returned to their homeland. No matter how many tragedies could be avoided, and it was possible to take it immediately within the boundaries of the regions at least. Now, without an armed conflict, the land cannot be returned. What is the point of this debate in the Duma if the Duma majority is a united Russia. As Putin says so, they will vote. Everything will remain on that, neither war nor peace, without end and without edge
    1. sustav75
      sustav75 21 January 2022 11: 53
      +3
      A swamp, like GDP and loves. But even the swamp itself does not resolve ...
    2. Sanichsan
      Sanichsan 21 January 2022 13: 49
      +1
      Quote: FoBoss_V
      Now, without an armed conflict, the land cannot be returned.

      and then what, without an armed conflict, would they return? there is no military base there, as in the Crimea. request
  8. Prisoner
    Prisoner 21 January 2022 09: 28
    +10
    I bow to the idea that a performance is being played out, the purpose of which is to add a spark to the cauldron in order to troll NaTU and her "girlfriend".
  9. V means B
    V means B 21 January 2022 09: 34
    0
    Oh woke up.
  10. Grandfather Mozai
    Grandfather Mozai 21 January 2022 09: 35
    +2
    The State Duma is a fiction, everything is decided by the president, if he wants to admit it, all of Russia recognizes it. I wonder who is in the president's close advisers on this issue.
    1. Essex62
      Essex62 21 January 2022 09: 59
      0
      Everything is decided by a group of moneybags, pipe grabbers whose Duma writes laws in their interests, and the president is the executive director. The model with the stripes is drawn one-on-one.
    2. sustav75
      sustav75 21 January 2022 11: 55
      -2
      The advisers are known - Sechin, Miller, Chubais, Rotenberg, etc.
    3. Grits
      Grits 21 January 2022 14: 16
      0
      Quote: Grandfather Mozai
      I wonder who is in the president's close advisers on this issue.

      I'm sure we don't know much about them. Or we hear little - like Surkov ... The cardinals are gray.
  11. comradChe
    comradChe 21 January 2022 09: 36
    +1
    An interesting question is posed, similar to litmus paper. You can bet on "patriotism". I believe that they will not accept "talk". What do you think?
    1. ancestors from Don
      ancestors from Don 21 January 2022 09: 42
      +5
      Most likely they will chat when they want to achieve the goal, they act quickly without unnecessary noise, but here it looks more like propaganda hype and additional pressure in a bluff.
  12. ancestors from Don
    ancestors from Don 21 January 2022 09: 36
    +4
    Too late (((in 2014 it was necessary to squeeze, seven troubles, one sanctions, now the Armed Forces of Ukraine are more prepared and the main question is what is our ultimate goal? to restore the territorial borders of the DPR and LPR or take the entire South-East?
    1. sustav75
      sustav75 21 January 2022 12: 01
      +1
      The ultimate goal is simple - to get as little damage as possible to friends on GDP. Oil, gas, metals and other "property of the people"
  13. Dikson
    Dikson 21 January 2022 09: 45
    +1
    This fluttering will not change anything, in fact .. Except us, no one recognizes these republics. And from the military operation of Ukraine with the support of NATO, their recognition by Russia will not save at all .. Because they had to be recognized immediately, and a little later, attached by holding referendums .. And such a decision suggests that there is no hope for any "Red lines", "agreements" and other scraping..
  14. Kronos
    Kronos 21 January 2022 09: 50
    +1
    “I am not sure that at present this step can be taken without prejudice to the interests of the Russian Federation - strategic and long-term. This (recognition of the DPR and LPR) runs counter to our signature under the Minsk agreements, and this is precisely what is an obstacle to the recognition of the formal DPR and LPR. Purely human: sympathy, support measures and everything else we carry out and must carry out, but official recognition at the state level means a withdrawal from the Minsk agreements and this is the reason why there has not been such recognition so far, ”Zatulin said in an interview with RIA Novosti ".
    1. YOUR
      YOUR 21 January 2022 09: 58
      +1
      You said correctly. We recognize the LPR, the DPR will receive Finland and Sweden as NATO members. Let's start to openly help get sanctions of the largest scale. Considered a violation of the borders of Ukraine.
    2. Vlad69
      Vlad69 21 January 2022 10: 10
      +5
      Here and so everything is clear: they recognize it only after forcing Kiev to peace by defeating the Ukrainian army that violated the Minsk agreements and decided by force to return Ukrainians to jurisdiction over uncontrolled territories. Not without sanctions, of course, but formally it is necessary to prove and show that Ukraine was the first to violate it. And this will cause problems. Everyone remembers 08.08.08
    3. sustav75
      sustav75 21 January 2022 12: 05
      -1
      We can only wait for Bandera to rush to the LDNR. And they already have everything ready for this, they are waiting for the “face” command from uncles from overseas ... then our hands will be untied ...
  15. mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 21 January 2022 10: 09
    +13
    Since they say in the United States that there will be sanctions not only for the invasion of Ukraine, but also for the presence of Russian soldiers dressed in foreign clothes, then the very threat of hellish sanctions for a direct invasion of the RF Armed Forces has been leveled and devalued.
    Further - more: Infernal sanctions will soon be introduced anyway, at the same time, it will be just another round of internal struggle in the United States. And why hellish - because there are no others left.
    It turns out: Attack the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation now or later - the result is the same.
    As in 14. They reinsured themselves and did not solve the Maidan issue of Ukraine, then they received all the sanctions that they had already introduced - even when Ukraine remained Anti-Russia.
    So now - we will not take this territory back:
    1. The US and NATO will still impose the promised sanctions, maybe not immediately, but gradually.
    2. All the same, Ukraine will be dragged into NATO, as well as Georgia. This is not a question of war and peace - it is a question of fake power (rating) in internal elections in front of US voters at the expense of Russia and Russians.
    3. Ukraine doesn't care, even outside of NATO, they will be saturated with weapons and ships. Let not immediately. And NATO bases called training centers already exist there and will continue to be.
    4. Russia will continue to be pressed if now they do not show determination and do not bring the line to the use of nuclear weapons, as in the Caribbean crisis, because. the states and their satellites went too far and lied utterly ...
    5. The lawsuits filed by the United States in the WTO for punishing Russia for import substitution - this is the implementation of the next round of hellish sanctions. Simply and regardless of Ukraine and the war with it, sanctions are already being introduced, albeit through the WTO.
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 21 January 2022 11: 49
      -2
      number 5 is stupid
      1. mojohed2012
        mojohed2012 23 January 2022 13: 22
        0
        It is even more stupid not to see and not understand what point 5 leads to. Hope for the best, turning a blind eye to the obvious and already initiated by the United States.
  16. Kapkan
    Kapkan 21 January 2022 10: 13
    0
    Speaker of the State Duma announced consideration of the issue of recognition of the people's republics of Donbass

    Fool! Or a traitor. They don't say things like that, they just do it.
    Why announce it? for the enemies to accelerate in their escalation of the conflict?
    idiot.
    1. Ashes of Claes
      Ashes of Claes 21 January 2022 11: 11
      -2
      Quote: Kapkan
      They don't say things like that, they just do it.

      such things are brought to the parliamentary level, there must be a collective decision. They are not stupid at all and understand perfectly well what is best. in which case bear collective rather than individual responsibility.
      1. Kapkan
        Kapkan 21 January 2022 11: 15
        -1
        This procedure could have been carried out differently, at closed hearings, under the protocol with the announcement of the decision at the end.
        When a country is on the brink of war, a real war, and not what is happening anywhere in principle, then you need to be more careful and prudent with statements.
  17. Per se.
    Per se. 21 January 2022 11: 05
    +6
    As Volodin emphasized, it is necessary to look for solutions to ensure the security of the population living in the Donbass, including Russian citizens, against the backdrop of Ukraine's militant moods supported by the collective West.

    A very interesting and correct conclusion, but is this a "discovery" for the present?
    “Let them just try to shoot at the people, women and children. We will be at the back. Not in front, but behind
    These are the words of Vladimir Vladimirovich back in May 2014.

    They have been shooting for a long time, but the position of the Russian authorities remains "behind".
    Why the militia was forbidden to enter Mariupol, empty of Bandera, was voiced at the time by Alexander Borodai. He then said that Akhmetov had a big contract for the supply of rolled metal to Italy, and since the Russian oligarchs were Ukrainian "blood brothers", they decided not to touch Mariupol, not to take Akhmetov's daily bread. In addition, in the metallurgical industries of Mariupol, in addition to Akhmetov's Metinvest, the ears of the Russian Severstal and Vnesheconombank stick out.

    The enterprises of Mariupol, as well as other enterprises in Ukraine, are vitally interested in Russian oligarchs. How would they be able to multiply their billions if the factories of Mariupol were transferred to the jurisdiction of the DPR, which are essentially PEOPLE'S republics, under bourgeois power in Russia? This also applies to many other enterprises in Ukraine.

    Recognition of the choice of Donbass... How can one not recall again Didier Burkhalter's visit to Moscow, after which the referendum in Donbass was ignored, like the entire "Russian Spring" in the south-east of Ukraine, but the farce with the elections was recognized by those who organized the unconstitutional a coup in Kiev, allowing the Kiev junta to be legalized, with the living and legitimate Yanukovych and Azarov on the territory of Russia.

    So, what recognition is being prepared there now, and how will it be cooler than the powers that were delegated to V.V. Putin after the coup in Kiev back in 2014?
  18. George Miloslavsky
    George Miloslavsky 21 January 2022 11: 19
    -1
    It is high time, if only Transnistria would be remembered.
  19. ximkim
    ximkim 21 January 2022 11: 51
    +1
    Recognizing the LDNR will not solve the problem. And the whole world doesn't know.
    It's the Kremlin's policy.
  20. Alexfu
    Alexfu 21 January 2022 11: 53
    0
    It’s a very complicated topic, we need to think about it, of course, such issues are not resolved right away, I’m sure the development of such an operation is envisaged, but it all depends on the commander in chief, I’m glad that he has the will and determination to do it at the right time.
    1. Ashes of Claes
      Ashes of Claes 21 January 2022 12: 05
      -1
      Quote: AlexFU
      A very complex topic, we need to think about it, of course, such issues are not resolved so immediately

      8 years is "so immediately"?
      Quote: AlexFU
      but it all depends on the boss

      First of all, this is a political decision, not a military one.
      1. Vintorez
        Vintorez 21 January 2022 17: 16
        -2
        What gives us the recognition of the LNR and the DNR? Lots of problems, but no point. We must first work on the Minsk agreements.
  21. flicker
    flicker 21 January 2022 12: 05
    0
    Speaker of the State Duma announced consideration of the issue of recognition of the people's republics of Donbass
    For the republics of Donbass, this is an opportunity to avoid war; for Ukraine, this is an opportunity not to start a war that is losing for statehood.
    And what about p and n dos?
    The main scenario for the fight against Russia is breaking down - "war with Russia to the last Ukrainian" with all the ensuing consequences.
  22. CYM
    CYM 21 January 2022 12: 16
    +1
    In their opinion, over the past years, democratic bodies of the state with all the attributes of legitimate power have been formed in Luhansk and Donetsk. It was emphasized that official recognition would protect the people of the republics from external threats and the policy of genocide on the part of Ukraine. In addition, it is planned that after the recognition of the republics by Russia, a mechanism for international recognition will also be launched.
    Well, yes, the next Transnistria, Abkhazia, South Ossetia IMHO is a dead end option.sad But what if, purely theoretically, consider a slightly different scenario. The Kiev authorities are formally legitimate no more than the authorities of the DPR/LPR, since they were not elected on the entire territory of Ukraine. The Kiev authorities have been "fighting" with the Russian Federation for eight years now, and during this time they have said and done a dozen "casus belli". So be it, purely theoretically, the Russian Federation declares war on Ukraine and immediately, with high-precision weapons and MTR, eliminates all the Kiev political and military leadership and takes the nuclear power plant and other dangerous objects under protection. The authorities of the DPR/LPR, on behalf of the people of Ukraine who elected them, are asking for a truce and assistance in "peace enforcement" of those left without command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and illegal armed groups. Further, the transitional government, denazification and conviction of war criminals, elections, the neutral status of Ukraine / joining the CSTO and the recognition of Crimea as the territory of the Russian Federation. winked
  23. sgr291158
    sgr291158 21 January 2022 14: 20
    -1
    Is it possible without all this red tape. Togo and look, the dill will start to beat, and we are all watching something. It's time to solve the issue as with the Crimea.
  24. Stomach
    Stomach 21 January 2022 16: 26
    0
    Time to buy the euro... I'm afraid our ruble will again show itself as usual against the backdrop of such news recourse
  25. Region39KGD
    Region39KGD 21 January 2022 16: 53
    +1
    Let, for starters, their own Russian business bent over to recognize their own Russian territory of Crimea!
  26. Vintorez
    Vintorez 21 January 2022 17: 12
    0
    The Communists decided to raise their rating. We found the right time just right. Where were they before?