The Pentagon decided to fight the excess profits of defense contractors

House Oversight Committee Chairperson Carolyn Maloney on Wednesday proposed a bill requiring contractors supplying government agencies to publicly disclose their spending data, which should help the government negotiate better prices for spare parts.

We're here today to say we've had enough. We must expand the scope of our contracting with out-of-control contractors

- said Maloney, talking about overpayments for spare parts for commercial and military aircraft.

The bill would require companies to provide the US administration with cost data when it is needed to determine whether the price is fair and reasonable. This initiative was supported by the Pentagon. However, the US Department of Defense will have to contend with an impressive lobby. Four defense industry associations are "strongly opposed to the procurement reform" which is said to harm the country's military-industrial complex.

The discussion of the bill comes at a time when the US military is seeking a $20,8 million refund from TransDigm, after the regulator found that the company received "excessive profits" for the shipment of spare parts for defense contracts.

According to Bloomberg, the company's business model was to acquire the only manufacturers of high-value parts; this allowed her to act as the exclusive supplier to the Pentagon. TransDigm says the auditors arbitrarily set a 15% acceptable profit margin. Republicans sided with the firm:

In the current environment, we should not be discussing an increase in the burden on business, especially US business.

TransDigm was ranked 50th on the latest list of the top 100 defense companies in the world. The firm earned $2,18 billion from defense contracts, accounting for 2020% of total revenue in fiscal 43.

Comments

[stels_07]

bees against honey

[Real Pilot]

The thought is correct, because such an impudent parasitism on the national security and defense of the country is simply criminal. Everywhere and at all times.
Let's think about what Iosif Vissarionovich and Lavrenty Pavlovich would say about such businessmen! And what would the same Roosevelt or Churchill do ...

The Americans began to realize that they could not cope. In the event of a war, they will remain exactly with what was at its beginning. After all, logistics and production will collapse, spare parts will disappear with this model of work. This is a peacetime contract system with zero real threats. And, in case of war, contractors will have to be forced to work, they are not ready for this. Where everything is fraudulently built for making super profits, work at least at cost in emergency conditions will be a big question.

Let them reform. It looks like a makeover! You give publicity - the capitalist, sound the cost ... The economy should be economical.
They need new thinking, consensus and acceleration...

[Shurik70]

Quote: RealPilot

such impudent parasitism on the national security and defense of the country is simply criminal

Do not confuse cause with effect.
The Soviet Union had a workers' state. Accordingly, laws were created for people.
Now, with the exception of China and North Korea, all over the world laws are being created for the oligarchs.
And if somewhere it seems that they are created for people, then this is just an internal struggle between the oligarchs. Just like in this "law on superprofits" - someone did not want to share, so they decided to press him.
As for bypassing these laws - so who needs it, they will draw any certificate that they generally work at a loss. And it will pass for everyone, except for those who decided to punish.

[voyaka uh]

". And, in case of war, contractors will have to be forced to work, they are not ready for this." ///
---
The opposite happened in World War II. Private contractors have increased the pace of production at times.
In 1940, the States practically did not produce tanks. units per year.
In 1943, the States produced more tanks than the USSR and Germany together
taken. Shermans were produced at 11 assembly plants.
Liberty ships.
Ocean ships launched from scratch in two months

[bogart047]

it is easy to produce tanks more than in the USSR, given that the USSR lost more than half of its cities and factories. And what he won back is the ruins. Germany had a different approach: expensive and difficult to assemble tanks, which were produced in small quantities. And Shermans are an analogue of the T-34. Deshego and angrily. But it's beneficial.

[VicktorVR]

Here is Roosevelt Churchill for sure.

Yes, and in the USSR there was a practice of overestimating the cost

[Alien From]

I do not believe!)))))

[Palmyra]

The food base is shrinking...

[Sands Careers General]

The Pentagon decided to fight the excess profits of defense contractors

Oh well, I won’t be surprised that they will put pressure on her, in the end they will be fired))
Huge money at stake, and then some Maloney jumped out.

[Kairbek]

Quote: Sands Career General

The Pentagon decided to fight the excess profits of defense contractors

Oh well, I won’t be surprised that they will put pressure on her, in the end they will be fired))
Huge money at stake, and then some Maloney jumped out.

Such statements will increase more and more in the west..
How is it that "backward Russia" has come out ahead in many types of weapons, when in the USA they spend trillions of greens on this and everything is wasted, in many performance characteristics .. There is a lag!
Beautifully we furnished the USA! And this is just the beginning..
Everything is ahead..

[Sands Careers General]

As they say, we stock up on seeds, smile and wave

[tralflot1832]

The printing press is already knocking out from overload. The economy must be economical.

[vintorez]

Please list many types of weapons that are in service. And yet, none of it comes to mind.

[lucul]

Please list many types of weapons that are in service. And yet, none of it comes to mind.

Offhand - all air defense, hypersound, electronic warfare)))

[Sauron80]

Let's be honest - maybe our developments are better in these industries, but how many of these air defense, hypersonic and electronic warfare systems are on alert in the troops? If there is war tomorrow, then what? Will you go to war with cartoons? How many NATO F-35s are on alert and how many SU-35/57s do we have? We will modestly keep silent about the capabilities of the fleet - and this is part of the nuclear triad, by the way. EW? And where are the results of its effective application? Just don’t talk about Cook and the Khibiny)) And again only the Strategic Missile Forces will remain, thanks to which we are still alive and relatively free.
Of course, you throw your hat across the ocean, but don’t freeze your brains without it))

[Comandor777]

You are right, but you just need to understand that the 40 billion indicated by Russia for the defense industry is a fake. In our country, the whole country is essentially connected with it and indirectly works for it. Plus, we have everything cheaper every 5 times, because of the lowered ruble exchange rate. Here is the miracle for you. But the country cannot forever develop the defense industry and degrade in all other areas. This has historically led to revolutions. Therefore, while there is a gap, you need to act and act immediately. Otherwise, there is a risk of falling apart into 10-20 pieces again.
So everything is very serious. I think in the next year or two we will see another wave of the ruble dropping to the area of ​​100 rubles per dollar. But what to do, you need to prepare for war and start riveting armats and dryers. If we succeed in lifting Europe up, we will fail again.

[Reptiloid]

Quote: Sands Career General

.... some Maloney jumped out.

how dare

.... talking about overpayments ....

How can one try to limit the most just capitalist market? He decides everything. Everyone can earn as much as they want.

[Vasyan1971]

This initiative was supported by the Pentagon. However, the US Department of Defense will have to contend with an impressive lobby. Four defense industry associations are "strongly opposed to the procurement reform" which is said to harm the country's military-industrial complex.

Their sanctions, sanctions! Hellish.

[Emergency]

Decided to take fewer kickbacks?

[engineer74]

Rollbacks in the USA!? How is it possible?!
Only lobbying
They definitely won’t bring in less money - the equipment will be made of g ... and sticks
"The market will destroy everything!" ©

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: engineer74

Rollbacks in the USA!? How is it possible?!
Only lobbying

This means that when a fire inspector comes to my construction site, threatens to seal the locker room of workers that does not meet fire safety requirements, and in return demands that four foundation blocks - “four” be delivered to his dacha - does he want me to lobbied him?

Of course, I can lobby ... From the word "on the forehead." And this inspector will seal the change house, so in 20 minutes CAM will come and print it. There were precedents.

[engineer74]

You think and act within the framework of the Russian corrupt paradigm!
In a normal democratic country, if you refuse to pay, then you will be visited by a "unicorn hunting accident" or disappear altogether, and your object will drive off to competitors, and the sealed change house will go off the auction, along with workers and a watchman
"We will never catch up with the developed countries!" ©

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: engineer74

In a normal democratic country, if you refuse to pay, then you will be visited by a "unicorn hunting accident" or disappear altogether, and your object will drive off to competitors, and the sealed change house will go off the auction, along with workers and a watchman

If so, then in the 90s we had democracy - well, just heaps! There was nowhere to go. Much more than now. Because both "accidents while hunting for unicorns", and "rolling into asphalt" ("disappearance"), and a day of siege in the office with two hunting against a dozen machine guns survived - everything was. As VVP said, "they went to hell", but we did not die, but live and work. And even though we are "undeveloped", we are building for many, many decades.

[Grim Reaper]

but we build for many, many decades
±±++++
They used to cost a long time ago.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Grim Reaper

but we build for many, many decades
±±++++
They used to cost a long time ago.

My company still works like this and I am responsible for every brick in the masonry and for every weld. Therefore, customers know me, they know the level of quality and there are no problems either with orders or with price negotiation.

[Grim Reaper]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Quote: Grim Reaper

but we build for many, many decades
±±++++
They used to cost a long time ago.

My company still works like this and I am responsible for every brick in the masonry and for every weld. Therefore, customers know me, they know the level of quality and there are no problems either with orders or with price negotiation.

Oh good that it is. But I'm not talking about one company. And about the country, the empire, in general

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Grim Reaper

Oh good that it is. But I'm not talking about one company. And about the country, the empire, in general

Well, I am not yet the Minister of Construction and Housing and will never be one. I can and do answer for my company. That's how my father raised me.

[Grim Reaper]

Well, I am not yet the Minister of Construction and Housing and will never be one.

+ + + + + + + +
It is a pity.

[rocket757]

The Pentagon decided to fight the excess profits of defense contractors

. Those. the economy, nevertheless, must be ECONOMIC!
Especially when all sorts of different rip off their own state?
Why would it suddenly?

[Emergency]

Is it really that serious? We heard about the economy that should be economical before the collapse of the Soviet Union. Now they have decided to save.

[rocket757]

It seems like everything should be decided by the market !!! What's wrong with them?

[Reptiloid]

Quote: rocket757

It seems like everything should be decided by the market !!! What's wrong with them?

Greetings, Victor,! Books, apparently, have not been read about this. victims of their exam

[rocket757]

Hi Dmitry
Unfortunately, a generation is growing, at least some of the total number of young people who "draw knowledge" from TikTok and other social networks!
And if they studied at school, as they should, they would have fewer questions ... or rather, the interest would be deeper, for really important things / moments, and they would not be distracted by all sorts of nonsense, they would not pay attention.
Unfortunately, the system of our education, the state policy in this important area, has accumulated many questions and claims ... alas, alas, the hope for self-education and a real interest in obtaining KNOWLEDGE of our younger generation, this is all hope.

[Reptiloid]

Victor, in my opinion, a lot depends on the parents. Especially now that the school and the state have disappeared. from some educational functions. Lucky where there are patriotic activities available

[rocket757]

So there is a need for change...
Boom to look, but we will not stop doing what we should.
Trust in God, but don't make a mistake yourself!!! This is the truth of life.

[Reptiloid]

Victor, I want to ask --- how are your SAMODELKINS? Are the kids coming? How are the elders? How much has their composition changed? Very interesting.

[rocket757]

Not now. The kids get sick, mine got sick too.
The school is sending entire classes to quarantine.
Nobody wants to take a chance.
We are waiting for the spring, and then we'll see.

[Reptiloid]

In the spring, you wrote that you communicate over the network ...

[rocket757]

It doesn’t work out in the normal way ... these are boys, they can be distracted / torn away from shooting toys, only ... it’s clear by what methods.
There are a few people who are passionate about creating their models, come to the workshop and home for help and advice.
But then, we don’t hold competitions, there is no excitement to win. Then all this will have to be restored.
All the same, the next ones will come, they are growing, and there is nowhere special to go to us.

[ycuce234-san]

There is BRL-CAD, suitable for distance learning modeling on a computer, and possibly on a phone.

[rocket757]

It is available somewhere, in a professional environment.
I / we have a children's art club, a "pochemuchka" club, organized on a voluntary basis ... i.e. my desire to teach teenagers applied, technical skills, tricks ...
From the administration of the village free access to the club and electricity. Everything else is mine and the parents of teenagers.
In general ... a puddle, soldering, fixing rocket boots.
Remotely, you can only prompt those whose initial skills are already well-established ...
Something like this.
By the way, in the classroom only with their own hands and head ... wisdom from the Internet, let them practice at home if their parents allow.
By the way, how can the Internet teach how to hammer nails correctly, for example ??? I do not believe in such "miracles".

[Bad Pig (Ham)]

no money, no money, no money...
and no money...

[Palestinian]

I remember Kennedy also fought with the military-industrial complex .... until he arrived in Dallas ....

[Kairbek]

Quote: Palestinian

I remember Kennedy also fought with the military-industrial complex .... until he arrived in Dallas ....

Well, Biden was chosen as a sleeping doll for this To turn their business around .. And Russia is like a bone in their throat, with its latest developments and with a minimal budget
They click with their teeth at our borders, but they are terribly afraid !!!

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Kairbek

Russia is like a bone in their throat, with its latest developments and with a minimal budget

Still would! Well, this is how much money could be extorted under idle talk about the "Russian threat", and now you have to really invest money in something. It's a pity!

The situation is similar to the Ukrainian "reverse" gas. How many years have they pumped the loot virtually "on the reverse" - and everything was fine. And here - on you! I suddenly had to pay for a real reverse. This is where the "blue polar fox" came in.

[krops777]

And Russia is like a bone in their throat, with its latest developments and with a minimal budget

Well, day and night, through all channels, they broadcast to the whole world about the Russian economy torn to shreds, that they stole everything and bablopilism reached cosmic proportions, and then such a discrepancy comes out.

[2 Level Advisor]

Yes, Russia helps them, not a bone in the throat - now you can demand and cut even more money ...

[Vadim237]

He fought the mafia, but in the end the mafia overcame him.

[Sauron80]

Well, it's already a classic.

[engineer74]

He, they say, also fought with the Fed ... In general, he fell under the "comprehensive solution"

[Mountain shooter]

This is ridiculous. Will there be super profits? They will wind up costs ... The military-industrial complex has long been living by its own laws, lobbying for them ... The undertaking is a good one, but who will give them ...

[Kesha1980]

Guys, buy "sushki", "Migi", "beeches", etc. (in the export version). And you will save! But not on credit!

[vintorez]

Do you think our weapons are cheaper? In some areas it is even more expensive. Our military-industrial complex also wants to eat black caviar with lobsters.

[neurostimulator]

Do not speak for the military-industrial complex, there are many, many, many people whom you don’t even know by last name, not to mention their extremely difficult path through life.
Reptiles who have had a stigma in black caviar for a long time, this is not a military-industrial complex. Who once exchanged honor for caviar, in fact, has nothing to do with the military-industrial complex at all.

[vintorez]

Not about a simple worker speech. Everywhere everything is the same, that we have that in the USA. There are leaders and their patrons.

[neurostimulator]

A simple worker just works. I told you not about ordinary workers and, in general, not even about workers in the first place. Be patient, live a little in the world, I guarantee you you will see the difference between the USA and Russia very clearly.
It is also easy to distinguish the spawners from the military-industrial complex, the main thing is to be careful and not get hung up on caviar.

[vintorez]

I lived in the world for a long time. Patience in what to gain, in how the country is being plundered. I've been recruiting him all my life, but I don't see a bright future. Do you work in the military-industrial complex or do you think that there are patriots there? People came there to earn money, not to engage in patriotism, even in the army of patriots you can count on your fingers, they earn all the money. You can believe.

[neurostimulator]

Yes, I believe you, but you don't believe me. The word "patriot" was used, it was you who did it in vain. As Viktor Tsoi sang .. "do not drink from spat wells ...".
I wrote to you about common sense, not about patriots. Sanity is one of the keys to survival and dominance :). Our military-industrial complex still dominates, and those who exchanged its legacy for caviar are crazy ... this is my life experience.

[vintorez]

Prompt in what dominates, very much it would be desirable to know. Only about what will happen by 2030 is not necessary, because either the padishah will die (not YOU) or the donkey will die.

[neurostimulator]

Of course, I can answer you, it's a pity it's not time yet. Yes, and our communication becomes too pretentious and personal.
If you have been living for a long time, as you yourself write, then nothing will change in your worldview, which means that there is no point in talking to us yet. But one thing you must know for sure, I, like you, do not care about plans for 2030 .. I have also been living in the world for a long time.
At this point, I propose to stop our correspondence.

[vintorez]

As you wish. Good luck and health.

[vintorez]

Common sense no longer works. Now the principle is to live long and eat sweetly, that's the whole principle.

[Sauron80]

In just nine months of 2019, 26 of them were detected. For the same period last year - 114. For the whole of 25, 004 crimes were recorded, and for the year before last - 2018. If in 30 the share of such crimes in the total volume was 495%, then only for three quarters of this year - already 29%.

The number of revealed facts of receiving and giving bribes, as well as mediation in this, is growing. As of September this year, 11 such crimes have been identified. For the nine months of 283, there were 2018 of them. For the entire last year - 10. At the same time, cases of petty bribery are recorded less and less. From January to September 179, 12 crimes were registered. This figure was slightly higher last year. The corrupt activities of organized groups and criminal communities are more often suppressed.

Infa for 2019, just the first thing that came up on Google, I don’t think that anything will change much in 2022) And these are only those who slept;)

[Kesha1980]

And you compare. What to argue. Apaches are more expensive than Su-35s.
And our military-industrial complex is not yet accustomed to eating black caviar. Or are you "from behind the hillock" talking abstractly?

[vintorez]

AH-64 E Block IIIB ranged from $35,50 to $57.5 million. The cost of a single SU-35 fighter exceeds $104 million - 10 million more than the cost of the American F-35. I live in Russia. Please check the price before posting. My comrade works in the military-industrial complex does not live in poverty and eats caviar.

[Kesha1980]

I recommend reading the following information from the very, very primary source about the cost of Apache
https://www.dsca.mil/press-media/major-arms-sales/iraq-ah-64e-apache-longbow-attack-helicopters
I don't think you can say that the official website of this US agency is lying. It is from there that the approximate cost of Apache emerges.
24 Boeing AH-64E Apache Guardian attack helicopters, of which only 12 will be equipped with AN / APG-78 Longbow radar. The delivery will also include 480 AGM-114R Hellfire guided missiles. Delivery cost 4,8 billion.
You probably (obviously) counted $104 million for the Su-35 in a deal with China. The whole world knows about the main goal of this agreement - engines. Which immediately separately (with a margin) were included in the delivery. And one more thing". On the basis of this agreement, or rather, following its results, China will soon begin to put its engines on its analogue J-16 (and some letter). There was a purchase of technology.
I doubt that you have a friend who works in the military-industrial complex and eats black caviar. Or I admit, after your compliments, his diet - he will no longer call you a friend.
Be a patriot - go to the Prosecutor's Office and the Investigative Committee of the Russian Federation.

[vintorez]

I read that there are so many bells and whistles and all sorts of things that it is very difficult to calculate the cost of a helicopter. A friend receives money quite legally. Not the last person there.

[Kesha1980]

Well, I earn quite legally my 100.000 rubles. average. At the same time, I relatively often have free time on the site to "pokalyakat". I have enough. I eat only red caviar and only from relatives from Kamchatka (the rest is rubbish, mostly).
Your friend's diet doesn't bother me. It means a successful life, or thievery (it makes no difference to me - this is not my friend). And the "robots" of the military-industrial complex - the masters depend on the order. Now the budget for modernization will run out of steam - and they will switch to a 2-day working week. Export is required. Extremely necessary.

[lucul]

Do you think our weapons are cheaper?

And there is .))))

[vintorez]

Then give the numbers, I gave.

[lucul]

Then give the numbers, I gave.

You are welcome :

https://turbo.ria.ru/20211210/istrebiteli-1763144866.html

150 million$ for 1 piece)))

[vintorez]

Where did you get this from, it says it is planned to highlight.

[lucul]

Where did you get this from, it says it is planned to highlight.

You know how to read - $ 10 billion for 64 F-35 aircraft (maybe even without engines).

[vintorez]

"The delivery includes 64 aircraft adapted to the needs of Finland, weapons and other necessary systems. About 10 billion euros." Here's how it's written. There are also weapons and other necessary systems. You read for yourself first.

[lucul]

Here's how it's written. There are also weapons and other necessary systems. You read for yourself first.

So the price of $ 104 million for the Su-35 (to China) is with all the weapons, and the necessary systems, and probably with 2-3 engines to boot.

[vintorez]

It says so there, what about weapons and engines, or did you come up with it?

[neurostimulator]

The Pentagon decided to fight the excess profits of defense contractors

The principle of confrontation is clear ... vodka, of course, it destroys us a lot, well, we don’t feel sorry for it either :)

[Andrey Moskvin]

From Afghanistan, let them ask for compensation for losses.

[TermNachTer]

Dreaming))) "Lockheed" will give away its superprofits to whom. On the edges, the congresswoman will be buried somewhere in the landing))))

[smaug78]

What a nightmare))) And when will our Central Bank begin to fight against our oligarchs? Although our cheers are like Ukrainians, the main thing is that the neighbor would be worse ...

[Pereira]

Central Bank against the oligarchs? You must be joking.

[Dkuznecov]

If the Pentagon copies our FZ 275 and its implementation,
it will be possible to forget about the military-industrial complex of the United States forever.

[Pavel57]

What is their rate of return?

[Pereira]

If you want cheaper, contact Russia and China.

[alexey alexeyev_2]

The gut is thin. She won’t even notice this woman with giblets. There are plenty of examples. They steal everything from the army. True, our generals are kittens compared to them.

[APASUS]

Bees versus honey? Next American Wishlist