From the navigator's notebook

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From the navigator's notebook

Is there truth in life?


I was already a navigator-instructor in all types of training, a little matured, I had the right to my own opinion and used it in full, sometimes with too much.

The command about me had an ambiguous opinion - "thinks, but nasty."



So it was.

They flew the night flight shift from 19:00 to 03:00.

But this does not mean at all that I started my work at 19:00, no, I started it at 16:00, and when I finish, no one knows, but certainly not at 03:00.

In general, everyday flight work on normal night flights in a standard winter.

We flew off all the flight tasks planned for our crew for this flight shift, taxied to the parking lot, rolled the plane up, got off the plane and sort of lined up to listen to the commander.

The commander did not express any comments on the work to anyone and gave the command to go home - the most pleasant team on night flights.

But things didn't go the way we wanted.

The car of the chief of staff of the regiment drove up to the plane, he got out and turned to the commander:

- How much fuel is left?

- 12 tons.

- Excellent, without refueling, I drive the “zone” with your crew, the regiment commander allowed it, then they will finish it in the planning table.

All plans to go home abruptly went “along the carving, along the furrow” and one more rhyme.

You can get excited and not fly, they say, they didn’t prepare, and no one will force you. But after all, I already understand something in flight work and understand that the chief of staff of the regiment, lieutenant colonel, does not get into the plane at two in the morning because he suddenly wants “romanticism”, but because he is running out of time for a break in night flights , and this flight will be carried out to "support the pants" in order to "reset" this period.

But I also understand something else.

We will sit down at 03:00, while we taxi, while the plane is rolled into the parking lot, by the time we get out, it will be already half past four, the chief of staff will rush off to debrief, the squadron car will already leave, and we will have to go home on foot, and this is about eight kilometers in the cold .

In general, the prospects were not encouraging.

I made such a "face" that the chief of staff understood everything:

- Well, what are you? I need the edge, the deadlines are running out ...

- I don’t have deadlines, we didn’t plan to fly with you, we didn’t prepare, it’s impossible ...

The chief of staff turned to our commander:

- Sergeich! What is he? Well tell him!

Sergeich understands everything perfectly, so he shrugs his shoulders indifferently.

The whole crew is looking at me with some hope.

But nothing can be done, this is such a job, and not a personal whim of a lieutenant colonel.

I make a decision not in our favor:

- Okay, let's go!

And we drove into the "air sky".

We flew into the zone and landed at the very end of the flight shift, as I expected. We got out of the plane, the chief of staff of the regiment thanked us:

- Thank you guys!

And then he got into his car and rushed to the debriefing.

I looked longingly at the receding lights of the car, raised the collar of my jacket higher, fastened it around my throat and said to my second navigator:

-Let's go slowly...

The second navigator with me was not a "combat" officer, but a "forester" - a graduate of the "forestry academy", there was a military department, and graduates of this department were called to our service for three years.

By virtue of his “civilian” view of our military reality, this officer sometimes spoke very aptly on various occasions, and sometimes without any reason.

And now Serega looked after the departed car, threw his headset on the concrete, and said loudly:

- There is no truth in life!

I did not argue with him, in some ways he was really right.

And then we saw that the car slowed down, turned around and drove up to us.

The chief of staff shouted:

- Sit down quickly! Something I really...

We quickly loaded up and were taken to the headquarters of the regiment.

As soon as we settled in the car, I asked Seryoga:

- Well, is there any truth in life?

I really liked his answer, and I used this wording more than once in my future service and life:

There is truth in life. But she's so small that you won't notice her right away!

This is it, this is the truth...

instrumental control


So two lieutenant colonels entered the classroom - Hussein Mamedovich (Mamedych, head of the division's security service) and Mansur Khabibulovich (Khalabudych, chief of staff of the regiment), and began to pester the captain named Senya. And Senya (actually Sanya), in his free time from the Tu-16s, flew the divisional An-2.

So Mamedych asks Senya why he started the 2st turn on the An-1 in the last flight at an altitude of less than 100 meters?

Senya sluggishly rebuffs, Mamedych insists that he saw everything from the command and control tower (KDP).

And who pulled my tongue?

I’m sitting nearby and saying “into the air”, that it’s impossible to determine the true height with the KDP, but if you tie a rope 2 meters long to the tail of the An-100, then by its separation from the ground it will immediately become clear that the height is more than 100 meters, this is can be considered instrumental control.

The people laugh, Mamedych hisses and jumps out of the classroom.

Khalabudych looks at me reproachfully.

"So what? Crude soldier humor! I parry this look.

“If not for your language, I would have been a squadron navigator long ago,” Khalabudych reveals the reason for my service “failure”.

“But career prospects remain,” I reassure myself out loud.

And it's not so boring for people to wipe their pants in the classroom.

Rabbits


Preliminary preparation for tomorrow's flights.

I am the navigator of the squadron, I am obliged to organize and control it.

Organized, now I control.

I look around the classroom, I see the navigator of the ship, of Ukrainian nationality, whose expression clearly shows that his thoughts are somewhere far from flying.

Suitable for visual and vocal contact:

"What were you thinking about, kid?"

- About rabbits, Mikhail Vladimirovich ...

- Why? Everything is about flying, and you are about rabbits?

- This nightmare in the style of "military" will end, I will go to the demobilization, I will go home, I will breed rabbits ...

- Why rabbits?

- Because "rabbits are not only valuable fur ..."

- You have good dreams, but not quite out of place. Come on, you think about how tomorrow, in flight to a radius, you will approach the line at a given time, otherwise you are not doing well with this.

- I understand, but flying is so mundane ...

- Down to earth - this is already for me, but for you - reaching the target at a given time is still a blue dream.

Hole


Arrived at pre-flight instructions before departure for "providing fleet».

As usual, the naval commanders failed to do something in time, the “greens” staged their “war”, and we received the conditions for departure with some changes and restrictions.

The senior (senior navigator of the regiment) sat down next to me and said:

- Get the map, we will immediately make changes to the route, I will check, then we will give instructions.

I took out the map that I had prepared yesterday, unfolded it on the table and saw in the middle of the route a neat through hole with a diameter of about 3 centimeters.

Both of us were dumbfounded - both I and the eldest ...

The elder reacted quickly:

- What's this?

- How do I know? I see this hole for the first time. You controlled me last night, there was no hole in the map...

- Okay, let's draw a new route, the hole is in the center, it doesn't bother us. But you would have figured out who is making holes for you on the map ...

I drew a modified route.

The elder checked, then we were given pre-flight instructions, and we went to the plane.

But I still couldn’t calm down because of this hole, and I perfectly understood that this hole had to be dealt with immediately, otherwise I would only think about this hole for the whole flight.

In the squadron house, I carefully examined my navigational briefcase and found that it was full of holes, and my map just fell into this through hole. I shook everything out of the briefcase, found the remains of the chocolate foil and realized what had happened.


Navigator's portfolio


Navigator's briefcase from the inside

Last night, having prepared for the flight, I put all the navigational equipment and the map in my briefcase and left the briefcase at Squadron Headquarters. And he also left a small chocolate bar in his briefcase, which was given to me at breakfast.

One of the mice that lived in the educational building smelled the smell of chocolate and, in order to get the chocolate, gnawed through my briefcase, and at the same time the card.

Realizing what had happened, I calmed down, put all my clothes in a briefcase and went to the plane.

The flight was successful, I replaced the briefcase and did not store anything else edible in it.
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  1. +7
    25 January 2022 18: 15
    Thank you!
    I read it remembering, as if everything was a carbon copy. Although I am definitely not a navigator of naval aviation and even “not a forester”!
    1. +13
      25 January 2022 18: 19
      Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
      I am definitely not a long-range navigator.

      And I'm not a long-range navigator.
      I was a naval aviation navigator.
      1. -2
        25 January 2022 18: 32
        Khalabudych, Mamedych and Klava from the combat.......I'm not guilty !,the political officer himself came to me.
        Bez, the planning table is the law, no one will ever change and correct it, this is tantamount to suicide.
        I have a question for you, if of course you answer - your cool qualification, what technique did you get and in what year?
        Thank you in advance.
        1. +5
          25 January 2022 18: 45
          Quote: bober1982
          your class qualification, what technique did you get and in what year?

          1st class, Tu-16, I don’t remember the year, I was the navigator of the regiment, the specifics of getting it - soon, a separate story.
          1. -8
            25 January 2022 18: 52
            Quote: Bez 310
            1st class, Tu-16, I don't remember the year

            The key phrase - I don't remember the yeareverything is clear with you.
            1. +7
              25 January 2022 18: 53
              Quote: bober1982
              Key phrase - I don’t remember the year, everything is clear with you.

              What exactly is clear to you?
          2. -5
            25 January 2022 18: 53
            Quote: Bez 310
            I don't remember the year

            Was it 1st grade?
            1. +8
              25 January 2022 18: 58
              Quote: bober1982
              Was it 1st grade?

              Why were there doubts?
              And what, "class", is it so important?
              1. -7
                25 January 2022 19: 02
                Quote: Bez 310
                And what, "class", is it so important?

                Brilliantly, of course, drunk in the technical compartment, he flew in the place of the second navigator, in the crew of the political officer.
          3. -3
            25 January 2022 19: 01
            Quote: Bez 310
            I don't remember the year

            Bez, here's what it looks like:
            By order of the USSR Ministry of Defense N 00143 of 07.08.1985/XNUMX/XNUMX, the qualification was awarded Military navigator 1st class .........(Su-24)
            1. +9
              25 January 2022 19: 01
              Quote: bober1982
              here is what it looks like:

              And what do you mean by that?
              1. -7
                25 January 2022 19: 04
                Quote: Bez 310
                And what do you mean by that?

                I say that you need to reinforce your words about classiness, you don’t have it and couldn’t have it.
                1. +13
                  25 January 2022 19: 05
                  Quote: bober1982
                  you need to reinforce your words about classiness, you don’t have it and couldn’t have it.

                  Why do I need to "reinforce" something?
                  1. -12
                    25 January 2022 19: 08
                    Quote: Bez 310
                    Why do I need to "reinforce" something?

                    You do not have the qualifications of a military navigator of the 1st class, and it could not be. You are lying.
                    1. +17
                      25 January 2022 19: 10
                      Quote: bober1982
                      You do not have the qualifications of a military navigator of the 1st class, and it could not be. You are lying.

                      Ready to answer for your words?
                      Come on, answer...
                      Here is a photo from my "Record":
                      1. -9
                        25 January 2022 19: 17
                        Well, this is a completely different matter! And you say - I don’t remember the year! After all, you can whenever you want!
                        But immediately the question is, you have a year of release in 1978, you received the first class in 1991, total: 1991-1978 = 13 years !!!!!
                        Mama mia!
                        Were you the chief of staff of the regiment at that time? Maybe you sent yourself an idea for the 1st grade?
                        13 years .......... a bit too much!
                      2. +15
                        25 January 2022 19: 20
                        Quote: bober1982
                        Well, this is a completely different matter!

                        "Another thing" will be when you begin to answer for your empty chatter. In the meantime, I'm sorry, I don't want to talk to you...
                      3. -6
                        25 January 2022 19: 24
                        Quote: Bez 310
                        I don't want to talk to you...

                        Very sorry, very, but there is something to talk about.
                        I have a lot of classmates who had the honor to serve both in Mongokhto and in Knevichi, at meetings they very willingly talk about the service, colleagues - over a glass of tea, of course.
      2. -8
        25 January 2022 18: 35
        Departure from the airfield - strictly at the set time, that's right, a commentary on the story.
        1. +11
          25 January 2022 18: 43
          Quote: bober1982
          Departure from the airport - strictly at the set time

          I asked you, but you forgot again - add "in the regiments where I served."
          This is "strictly within the established ..." for you, and for us - with the permission of the commander.
      3. -23
        25 January 2022 18: 40
        Quote: Bez 310
        I was a naval aviation navigator.

        Glory to Minister of Defense Serdyukov that he dispersed and raked all this riff-raff like a bulldozer!
        1. +4
          25 January 2022 18: 53
          Did you share it?
  2. +1
    25 January 2022 18: 22
    It is forbidden to add anything to the planned flight table, especially in terms of the type of flight for which the crew did not prepare, as well as to perform the flight itself. What happened - you are all extreme and guilty in the crew and not guilty. And you wouldn’t leave the airfield before the end of the flight shift, it’s like leaving work during working hours.
    1. +12
      25 January 2022 18: 29
      Quote: svoroponov
      And you wouldn’t leave the airfield before the end of the flight shift, it’s like leaving work during working hours.

      Take an example from the "builder of dams and huts", and indicate in the comments - "it was like that in the regiments where I served", or something similar, so that readers understand that you decided to tell about your service in the comments under my stories.
      1. -1
        25 January 2022 18: 32
        Actually, this was the case in the Air Force of the USSR. Or did you not serve in them? You did not carry out combat flights, but training ones.
        1. +13
          25 January 2022 18: 41
          Quote: svoroponov
          as it was in the Air Force of the USSR. Or did you not serve in them?

          I served not in the Air Force, but in the Naval Aviation, and we flew according to the Combat Training Course (KBP) av. Navy, the regiment was part of the permanent readiness (CPG) or, as they sometimes called it, the "first line", we did not have any training flights.
          1. -1
            25 January 2022 18: 46
            - I don’t have deadlines, we didn’t plan to fly with you, we didn’t prepare, it’s impossible ...
            You answered yourself.
            1. +14
              25 January 2022 18: 47
              Quote: svoroponov
              you can not do it this way…
              You answered yourself.

              Yes, of course you can’t!
              "But if you really want to, then ... you can..."
              1. +1
                25 January 2022 19: 05
                And yet, you have a regiment of constant combat readiness, right? Moreover, during even combat training flights, it is impossible to leave the start before they end according to the planned table. All flights, if not combat, fall into the category of combat training. You know this very well or should know.
                And on foot to return home 8 kilometers is something. Your part of the buses did not have to bring in or take away personnel? It was possible to leave with the technical staff a little later and not go. Wherever I was, pilots who were late for one reason or another for transportation or crews, were picked up by vehicles that picked up technicians and mechanics. Moreover, the sides were covered without towing to a third-party parking lot.
                1. +10
                  25 January 2022 19: 07
                  Quote: svoroponov
                  Wherever I've been...

                  Everything was different for us.
                  And as it was with you, you can issue a separate story, when it is published, we will evaluate and comment.
                  1. 0
                    26 January 2022 02: 54
                    8 km, this is about 2 hours after flying on foot - everything was poorly organized with you.
                  2. +2
                    26 January 2022 03: 07
                    If you are against comments, why the article and your participation in the discussion? Or do you like something that caresses your ears? It’s just that, according to your articles, many people don’t get a good impression about serving in aviation. ,
                    So I am writing to show that not only is aviation like yours with not quite normal discipline and a bad attitude between colleagues and your superiors towards them, but there was another one in which there were other more normal relations.
                    I have the impression that you have been offended in life and you have become so grumpy.
                    1. +3
                      26 January 2022 07: 00
                      Quote: svoroponov
                      svoroponov (Vyacheslav) Se

                      Well said!
                    2. +4
                      26 January 2022 07: 54
                      Quote: svoroponov
                      Here I am writing

                      Please write, but do not forget to indicate that this was the case in the regiments where you served. Otherwise, you start your comments by denying the facts indicated in the story, and then you are offended that I "pull up" you.
                      Either you have “training” flights, then there is no naval aviation, then you couldn’t leave the airfield ...
                      1. +2
                        26 January 2022 19: 18
                        I’m not offended, the age and experience are not the same and I didn’t want to offend you. And you present the facts, only they are all on the verge of “foul” - some kind of negative. And they form a not quite true real picture. Maybe from a different perception, I'm a pilot (and a navigator in one person) and you are a navigator who flew as part of crews. So please don't be offended. Yes, and on this forum, according to your articles, many are not one-sided, support, much more interesting. With something I agree with you. Everything happened. But the bad, all the same in aviation, is many times less than the good.
                        And yet, it so happened that all my life after school I taught, retrained and prepared pilots for combat use on boards of various types. So I studied the psychology of the flight crew and the relationship with him and the other command enough in life, and often even from the stories you can immediately see what a person is worth and what he is like. And all the documents regulating flight work had to be submitted several times a year, since I also had exams for admission to flights and I had to perform checks with cadets and subordinates more than once. And if you don't know, you can't imagine. And if anything happens, a whole mouth of the earth.
                      2. -1
                        26 January 2022 20: 00
                        Yes, congratulations on the holiday - Navigator's Day of the Navy Aviation! Health to you and all the blessings available to you in this not calm world!
                      3. +2
                        26 January 2022 20: 18
                        Quote: svoroponov
                        Navigator's Day aviation Navy!

                        There is no such holiday, there is Naval Navigator Day. But thank you for the congratulations, during the service we always celebrated this holiday.
                2. +1
                  26 January 2022 00: 59
                  Well, for example, in the Kipelovo garrison it was in the order of things
          2. -2
            25 January 2022 19: 18
            The USSR Air Force covered all aviation with the exception of the border. And inside it was already divided according to its intended purpose.
            1. +14
              25 January 2022 19: 22
              Quote: svoroponov
              The USSR Air Force covered all aviation with the exception of the border.

              You are not right.
              Naval aviation is not subordinate to the commander-in-chief of the Air Force, but to the commander-in-chief of the Navy.
              1. -5
                25 January 2022 20: 28
                Quote: Bez 310
                Naval aviation is not subordinate to the Commander-in-Chief of the Air Force, but to the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy


                This is understandable, it is felt that you are all perverts there. Long-range aviation of the submarine fleet. For example, where did you get the bar for cleaning buttons (in the 80-90s)?
                Well, then, and your buttons are brass?
                1. +7
                  25 January 2022 20: 31
                  Quote: chenia
                  where do you get the bar for cleaning buttons

                  This was my father's...
                  And the photo is not my plank, just such a photo came across.
                  1. +1
                    25 January 2022 20: 38
                    Quote: Bez 310
                    This was my father's.

                    My dad also had this, I remember polishing it with some kind of white liquid paste. We cleaned her plaques at the school. Then GOI paste.
                    1. +9
                      25 January 2022 20: 38
                      Quote: chenia
                      Some kind of white liquid paste polished.

                      Asidol.
                      1. +1
                        25 January 2022 21: 00
                        Quote: Bez 310
                        Asidol.

                        Yes, I forgot. almost half a century has passed.
                        Of all, the most recognizable is the bummer. When you mentally clung to something warm. And in real life on the second circle. And moreover, without options and who the hell will give you a ride.
                        It happened, and quite often.
                      2. +3
                        25 January 2022 21: 02
                        Quote: chenia
                        the most recognizable is a bummer.

                        It’s you who don’t know all the aviation bummers ...
                        I had a worse bummer, it would be necessary to somehow tell. It all started like this story - they flew in, got ready to go home, and ended up a thousand kilometers away ...
                      3. +6
                        25 January 2022 22: 14
                        Quote: Bez 310
                        You don't know all the aviation bummers.

                        Well, for landmen, maybe space is not so significant, but over time, often. And not lost hours, but days.
                        The column is ready after the camp gathering (Otarsky training ground in winter - up to -30 at night, 4 weeks of life in tents) to leave for the places of permanent deployment. Briefing, order to march and after 15 minutes. forward (in a couple of hours we get into civilization). UAZ stops, pulls out a new chart of the hull - with the question "where are you going7"
                        Commander - "The 14th Guards AP, after the camp and successful combat firing, decided to leave this dead place, and advises you not to linger."
                        Nachart - "I'll take it into account, but I have vague doubts about your success in BP, and I want to make sure that you are a sincerely honest person"
                        In short, two days later, repeated exercises of one unit (battery) with live fire.
                        Commander - nachartu "Teachings, with live firing, are always a holiday for us, and thanks to the higher authorities, which made it possible to enjoy this process2
                        The commander - to us (when the charter left) - "well ....., he said that the readiness for the march was at 10.00, and not at 12.00, and now, with drumming, all the belongings (tents, mattresses, frames, kitchens) were unloaded again and deploy.
                        No, if this order had been received earlier, it would not have been so painful. And then at the moment when everyone was already salivating and their eyes were clouded.
                        Well, at least later we proved that we can do something.
                        Nachart (arrived from the GSVG) wanted to show (well, there is such a thing in the army) that before him everything was bad. And he will put things in order in the artillery of 17 AK KSAVO.
                        Although a normal man, and he really put things in order.
                        So, the bummer took place.
                        Well, we often do this.
                      4. 0
                        25 January 2022 22: 26
                        Quote: chenia
                        Well, landlords ...

                        Yeah...
                2. 0
                  27 January 2022 11: 43
                  1984, In the military trade on the territory of the school, such straps for 18 kopecks were bought for inserts for shoulder straps. They were withdrawn regularly, but in the store there was a supply for our children, probably laughing hi
              2. -1
                27 January 2022 11: 46
                We still had a poster hanging in the school
                The USSR Air Force as a general - further subsection of the commands: Ground Forces, Navy, Air Defense, Strategic Aviation, Military Transport Aviation. Further, what was included there.
                The Navy had an Air Force, which was divided into several fleets: the Air Force of the Far Eastern Fleet and so on, which then were, and all other commands, with the exception of strategists, were further divided into reconnaissance, air defense, transport workers and someone else. And so on for all commands.
                After college, I no longer delved into the subordination of aviation units to different aviation because it was not necessary.
                It’s just that a lot is slowly being erased from memory, since even then such divisions into a variety of aircraft in the Armed Forces were not relevant for me
            2. +4
              25 January 2022 19: 41
              You are wrong, all types of aircraft had and have their own aviation
          3. +2
            25 January 2022 19: 41
            The destroyer on which I served was a ship of constant combat readiness of the first line - that's what it was called in the Navy.
            What were you thinking, kid? VIA "Singing Guitars", they had a song - "Here the postal troika rushes" in the early 70s.
  3. 0
    25 January 2022 18: 27
    Nicely. Reminded me of the stories of A. Zagortsev. hi
    1. +2
      25 January 2022 18: 53
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Reminded me of the stories of A. Zagortsev.

      If only from early.
      His last things are not at all the same, so ...
      1. +2
        25 January 2022 20: 17
        Just a few questions, if you don't want to answer, I can only launch a paper plane, so I'm sorry. But it was not scary to fly on the TU, the reputation of the TU-22, oh, what a bad one it was. I know the TU-22M, of course, a completely different car. But the numbers are the same. And where did the 2 pilots go after the flight? what . In general, I have some kind of unpleasant impression of Tupolev. Careerist, sycophant, projector, boor. Probably in passenger aviation in our country, the most people died on TU aircraft. When the Tu-104 began to fall, he gathered the pilots and started yelling that they couldn’t fly .. hi
        1. +3
          25 January 2022 20: 28
          Quote: Free Wind
          But it was not scary to fly on the TU, the reputation of the TU-22, oh, what a bad one it was. I know the TU-22M, of course, a completely different car. But the numbers are the same. And where did the 2 pilots go after the flight?

          Not scary.
          Yes, the Tu-22m(2-3) is a completely different machine, it was interesting to fly it after the Tu-16, but I didn’t like it, this aircraft did not become a breakthrough compared to the Tu-16.
          The commander went about his business, and the right pilot flew with us.
        2. +1
          25 January 2022 21: 51
          In general, I have some kind of unpleasant impression of Tupolev. Careerist, sycophant, projector, boor
          - Were you personally acquainted?
        3. -1
          26 January 2022 09: 58
          You greatly simplify according to Tupolev, to say the least ...
  4. 0
    25 January 2022 18: 52
    Thank you hi
    It was very interesting to read
    Especially about the rope good
    1. +3
      25 January 2022 20: 28
      Quote: Seryoga64
      It was very interesting to read
      Especially about the rope

      That's what the fleet is for, whether it be aviation or ships, but there has always been humor in the fleet. Yes, there is much less of the inertia that the "greens" had there.
      1. -2
        25 January 2022 20: 37
        Quote: tihonmarine
        That's what the fleet is for, whether it be aviation or ships, but there has always been humor in the fleet.

        specific)
        1. +5
          25 January 2022 20: 49
          Quote: Seryoga64
          specific

          Well, of course - "I left the port, I moored, I went into the port - WE ran aground."
          1. -2
            25 January 2022 20: 53
            Quote: tihonmarine
            Well, of course

            Every profession has its own professional humor and jokes.
          2. 0
            26 January 2022 08: 51
            "I left the port, I moored, I entered the port - WE ran aground."
            a bit wrong)) "left the port (in a singular number), entered the port, completed the transition, ran aground (multiple)" )))) without "I" and "WE" hi
            1. 0
              26 January 2022 09: 31
              Quote: Region-25.rus
              "left the port (in singular), entered the port, completed the transition, ran aground (multiple)")))) without "I" and "WE"

              Well, I realized that you do not understand marine humor. We have a different way of thinking, we have a different life and views. Sorry if offended.
              1. 0
                26 January 2022 09: 36
                You don't understand maritime humor
                I perfectly understand the difference between "I did something regular" and "WE (that is, I, but still we all) screwed up"))) As if the sailor himself in the past, if you remember))) The difference in the description of actions (and responsible for them). When everything is fine, then - "I". If the cant is already "WE")))
                In the latter case, the smearing of one's personal responsibility on everyone)))
                And in the first comment, I specified that to the action in the singular - "got out, moored, unmoored, etc. "I" should not be added))) As well as to the plural - "sat down, rammed, drove" "WE "also not needed) And so it is clear)))
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                  26 January 2022 09: 54
                  Quote: Region-25.rus
                  In the latter case, smearing one's personal responsibility on everyone)

                  This is humor, wherever it’s good, then “I”, and how bad, then “WE”.
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                    26 January 2022 10: 22
                    This is humor, wherever it’s good, then “I”, and how bad, then “WE”.
                    I'm aware) I'm generally talking about writing. For in the original source (I don’t remember how long ago) it was as I wrote in the first comment. More veiled) This is the main subtlety)
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                      26 January 2022 10: 50
                      Quote: Region-25.rus
                      More veiled) This is the main subtlety)

                      Marine humor is flat, cruel, but fair.
  5. +3
    25 January 2022 19: 01
    Classssssssssss!!! Thanks for the great humor!
  6. +5
    25 January 2022 19: 28
    "Thinks, but nasty." good
  7. +5
    25 January 2022 19: 31
    Well, the circle of interests works. And this is good, on the one hand, and not so good on the other. You read and roll memories that turn into dreams.
    Although, about two hundred years, how it all ended. wink
    One remark, I hardly believe that it is possible to "finish" in the planned table.
    "Although it was so in the regiments where I served wink ."
  8. +3
    25 January 2022 20: 09
    One of the mice that lived in the educational building smelled the smell of chocolate and, in order to get the chocolate, gnawed through my briefcase, and at the same time the card.

    She is a small mouse, but she climbs into a kilogram box of chocolate through a hole in a 2-kopeck coin and cuts the chocolate like on a grater, I can’t imagine, but I’ve seen it more than once. Chocolates are unwrapped on one side and the whole package is processed into shavings.
  9. +11
    25 January 2022 21: 57
    Dear commentators! In the "History" section I asked many times, now I ask in the "Opinions" section, please, bringing the author of the material to clean water, telling in the comments how it was with you, do not forget to indicate the years. Dear Bez 310 (Bez310) writes: "I asked you, but you forgot again - add" in the regiments where I served. "" He is 202% right. And don't forget the years! Even in one part, the service in 1974 was a little different from the service in 1984, and in 1984 it was different from 1994, and 2004 was different from 74, and from 84, and from 94. And the place of service can be one, part - one, yes equipment and people are different.
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      26 January 2022 09: 36
      Quote: Tests
      Dear commentators! In the "History" section I asked many times, now I ask in the "Opinions" section, please, bringing the author of the material to clean water

      Well, immediately "to clean water, he didn't steal anything, well, if you don't like it, write it like that," Here you "Without" are wrong, I will write better. "And write, and then we will also bring you "to clean water." Why such anger, we are people, not ...
  10. +1
    25 January 2022 23: 15
    I went to school with such a briefcase!
  11. +3
    26 January 2022 03: 05
    The mouse-hole is 3 cm, but the rats are more powerful holes ....
    At the school, these creatures for a long time discouraged leaving anything in the pockets of their overcoats (especially seeds, even one seed), because with the beginning of late autumn, these rodents moved together to our barracks. In the first year, this resettlement caught us by surprise and (I won’t say for a battalion) in the company about a dozen overcoats were destroyed, even those in whose pockets it was empty (these creatures went straight ahead to the food goal). They also got crackers from a dry ration (well, duffel bags, of course), which they received for various military events, it came to the point that the banks were cut into duffel bags, and the crackers "guarded" the daily outfit. In the second year, by winter, the invasion began to repeat itself, but in the end, without waiting for help from the rear, they bought poison from the funds for the "needs of the company" and won.
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      26 January 2022 09: 39
      Quote: Gvardeetz77

      +1
      The mouse-hole is 3 cm, but the rats are more powerful holes ....

      No, no more than 1,5 cm. And there are no mice on the ships, there are only "gray rats". Mice among them will not survive, and hordes of rats on fishing vessels. There I saw for the first time that rats can move along a vertical bulkhead.