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British transport planes with weapons for Ukraine had to fly around German airspace

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Materials have appeared in the German and British press saying that Germany has decided to close its airspace to aircraft that supply weapons and military equipment to Ukraine. The materials indicate that the airspace was allegedly closed to military transport aviation Britain and Canada. At the same time, the United Kingdom recently decided to supply anti-tank systems for the needs of the armed forces of Ukraine.


News about the closure of German airspace for aircraft with weapons for Ukraine began to be actively discussed both in the Western world and in Ukraine itself.

In particular, it is noted that British aircraft with weapons for Ukraine, on board, it was necessary to make a fair “detour” in order to reach Kiev airport. The materials of the British press say that aircraft from the UK were forced to fly to Ukraine through Danish airspace, flying around the airspace of Germany from the north. Thus, the duration of the flight exceeded the planned parameters, which were usually fixed during the flights of the Royal Air Force aircraft to Ukraine.

Meanwhile, German journalists turned to the United Kingdom Ministry of Defense with a request to comment on the situation. The British department said that they "did not themselves submit a request to fly in German airspace." Allegedly, it was planned to fly through Denmark.

However, this explanation did not satisfy the journalists, who asked why London decided to send its transport aircraft over a longer air route? At this, the communication of the official representative of the British Ministry of Defense with the reporters stopped. The department of Ben Wallace did not answer this question.

This gives reason to say that Britain and Germany are in a state of dispute over the supply of weapons to Ukraine. Recall that the German government did not consider it necessary to provide Kiev with military-technical assistance, noting that both Ukraine and Russia are friendly countries for Germany. In Germany, they say that they are in favor of a political and diplomatic resolution of the conflict situation.
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  1. Orel
    Orel 18 January 2022 16: 47
    +9
    The Germans have been allergic to war with us since 1945)))
    1. Tavi
      Tavi 18 January 2022 17: 09
      +4
      Most likely, or they know something, why the hell do they bring so many buns there.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 18 January 2022 18: 05
        +10
        What exactly they are transporting there is half the question; the second half is what they are exporting from Ukraine on the same planes.
        1. Thorvlobnor IV
          Thorvlobnor IV 18 January 2022 18: 51
          +11
          Is it black earth?
          1. Vladimir Mashkov
            Vladimir Mashkov 19 January 2022 21: 57
            0
            Wonderful miracles happen! Under the frantic cries of Americans about Russian aggression, the United States itself, as well as Lithuania, Latvia, Britain, saturate Ukraine with weapons, Canadian special forces arrive in Ukraine, the untouchable hero Poroshenko returns and a movement begins in Ukraine that can easily turn into a mess. The prospects for all this are well outlined in the article "Unrest in Ukraine as an excuse for NATO intervention." How could Russia not miss once again and finally Ukraine with the prospect of rocket launchers near Kharkov! what
      2. alex neym_2
        alex neym_2 18 January 2022 18: 16
        +17
        And why should the Germans run into trouble with Russia? SP-2 is on the way, so they will milk the geyropa for a couple ... they are not fools to cut the goose that lays the golden eggs (like this, learn to think, and sane people advise not to jump with a saucepan on your head).
    2. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 18 January 2022 17: 14
      +11
      Quote: Orel
      The Germans are allergic to war with us

      This is the instinct of self-preservation - the people are rational. They are definitely not enemies to themselves, and they understand that they will no longer provide a better chance for their survival as a nation, because the limit has been exhausted, for centuries to come. yes
    3. isv000
      isv000 18 January 2022 17: 22
      +11
      Quote: Orel
      The Germans have been allergic to war with us since 1945)))

      The Germans are not fools - they understand that when the storm in the glass settles, they, together with Russia, will milk the European herd ...
      1. fruc
        fruc 18 January 2022 18: 00
        +2
        I would not say that a flight from England via Germany to Ukraine is shorter than via Denmark and Poland. Perhaps they are misleading, just a hook is obtained through Germany.
        1. hohohol
          hohohol 18 January 2022 20: 26
          +2
          Perhaps they are misleading, just a hook is obtained through Germany.

          There is no detour there, a highway passes through Germany. Here I scored a route in the planner, you can see, there is even a map there:
          http://onlineflightplanner.org/
          Departure-TGLL
          Destination-UKKK
          Aircraft-Boeing C-17 Globemaster
          1. fruc
            fruc 18 January 2022 20: 36
            0
            There is not one track...
            1. hohohol
              hohohol 18 January 2022 20: 41
              +1
              So what? The planner calculates the most profitable route
              1. fruc
                fruc 18 January 2022 21: 21
                0
                Yes, profitable and safe.
                1. Rusticolus
                  Rusticolus 19 January 2022 06: 24
                  +1
                  Yes, profitable and safe.
                  As for being safe, I'd be very skeptical. An extra "fallen" Boeing Khoklam is now very handy.
    4. Anachoret
      Anachoret 18 January 2022 17: 25
      +8
      The Germans know history well and at the moment they understand that the impudent Saxons are pumping Ukraine with almost the same scenario as Hitler) and the Germans do not need this from the word at all))
    5. Thrifty
      Thrifty 18 January 2022 17: 29
      +7
      Isn't it time for the Kremlin to actively support those movements in NATO countries where the population is actively fighting for their independence? Why not help the Scots and Irish with weapons and instructors in their holy struggle to overthrow the English monarchy and establish a presidential form of government in these countries???
      1. Babermetis
        Babermetis 18 January 2022 17: 54
        -14
        Quote: Thrifty
        Isn't it time for the Kremlin to actively support those movements in NATO countries where the population is actively fighting for their independence? Why not help the Scots and Irish with weapons and instructors in their holy struggle to overthrow the English monarchy and establish a presidential form of government in these countries???

        The gut is thin!
    6. Secutor
      Secutor 18 January 2022 18: 23
      +3
      The Germans are Russia's biggest lobbyists in the EU. We have a lot of their business, German politicians sit in the management of Rosneft. Prohibit the supply of weapons to Ukraine, build gas pipelines despite US sanctions.
  2. Mouse
    Mouse 18 January 2022 16: 50
    +5
    This is zhzhzh ... - for good reason ...
    1. El Chuvachino
      El Chuvachino 18 January 2022 16: 56
      +20
      That's the turn
      1. Victorio
        Victorio 18 January 2022 18: 01
        -8
        Quote: El Chuvachino
        That's the turn

        ===
        there are so many problems in venezuela, throwing firewood, and the country will blaze.
        1. Bratkov Oleg
          Bratkov Oleg 18 January 2022 22: 54
          +2
          Quote: Victorio
          there are so many problems in venezuela, throwing firewood, and the country will blaze.

          As Kazakhstan has shown, any fire can be extinguished with Russian firewood.
          1. Victorio
            Victorio 18 January 2022 23: 03
            -3
            Quote: Bratkov Oleg
            As shown by Kazakhstan

            ===
            in venezuela, more than half (and write all 80 percent) live below the poverty line, the current criminals, 156 billion debts. what about kazakhstan?
    2. lucul
      lucul 18 January 2022 18: 02
      -3
      This is zhzhzh ... - for good reason ...

      This is not just for nothing)))) This is just the tip of the iceberg)))
      1. Mouse
        Mouse 18 January 2022 18: 24
        +4
        Iceberg may capsize...
  3. Amateur
    Amateur 18 January 2022 16: 53
    +11
    It looks like the Ukrainian ambassador in Berlin finally got the Germans. We are waiting for the next stage: the ambassador has gone ...
    1. Rusticolus
      Rusticolus 19 January 2022 06: 41
      0
      More precisely, we are waiting for the stage of the ambassador to be sent.
  4. Vladislav_2
    Vladislav_2 18 January 2022 16: 56
    -4
    LenaAlena Kulebyaki officially answered that you will not receive weapons from Germany wassat .... so "vassals are being taken .... with vegetable gardens" .... and suddenly they don’t find out about us
    1. Kurare
      Kurare 18 January 2022 17: 32
      +8
      Let's see what Annalena has to say when she arrives in Berlin. For some reason, Western foreign ministers immediately lose their memory as soon as they cross the Russian border. In the presence of Lavrov, everyone is so polite and diplomatic, but they come home and drive such a blizzard ...
  5. Pavel episkop
    Pavel episkop 18 January 2022 17: 06
    +8
    The current Ukraine is not worth getting involved in a conflict with Russia. In fact, the Germans correctly figured out that it is better to have mutually beneficial relations with the Russian Federation than to remain with a bare spot with Kiev.
  6. Nerpa1
    Nerpa1 18 January 2022 17: 08
    +3
    Experts suggest that NLAW portable missiles were handed over to Ukraine.
    Attacks NLAW tank armor from the upper hemisphere, flying a meter above it. And this is what distinguishes NLAW from Javelin, which makes a slide on the way to the target: a remote detonation occurs and the impact core hits the roof of the tank. The Swedish army tested this weapon, it is able to penetrate the armor of the T-72 tank from 500 meters, and 600 meters is the most effective distance.

    https://realist.online/news/probivaet-tank-s-500-metrov-kakoe-oruzhie-peredali-britantsy-ukraine-foto
    1. Kurare
      Kurare 18 January 2022 17: 28
      +3
      Quote: Nerpa1
      The Swedish army tested this weapon, it is able to penetrate the armor of the T-72 tank from 500 meters, and 600 meters is the most effective distance.

      And what about the distance? A warhead is a shaped charge, for it the distance of a rocket flight does not play any role. Maybe the effective range of the anti-tank systems was meant?
    2. kostavit
      kostavit 19 January 2022 06: 57
      0
      The NLAW differs from the Javelin in that they are only similar in appearance. Each of them has its own advantages. But a mistake was hurt in the commentary: NLAW can undermine its charge not only from above, but also in the "forehead".
  7. Vavilov
    Vavilov 18 January 2022 17: 10
    +7
    that Britain and Germany are in a state of dispute


    maybe they don't like it when brushwood is piled under the corner of your house? No.
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 18 January 2022 17: 19
      +1
      Right. Where is Eastern Europe and where is GB? Thinking to sit out on the islands?
  8. rocket757
    rocket757 18 January 2022 17: 40
    +3
    This gives reason to say that Britain and Germany are in a state of dispute over the supply of weapons to Ukraine.
    . Everything can be!
    Greens have a fetish, their own opinion on many issues !!! and they are now in the German government.
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 18 January 2022 18: 45
      +2
      Quote: rocket757
      .... Greens have a fetish, their own opinion on many issues!!! and they are now in the German government.

      There were various assumptions --- how will it be without Merkel? We'll see what's new
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 18 January 2022 19: 06
        +1
        Well, yes, the "fun" has begun and there is no end to it ...
  9. Mikhail Sidorov
    Mikhail Sidorov 18 January 2022 17: 53
    +3
    Materials have appeared in the German and British press saying that Germany has decided to close its airspace to aircraft that supply weapons and military equipment to Ukraine.
    This is a good signal for Russia. NATO crumbles at the first serious mess. Who will remain in Europe in case of conflict??? Great Britain and Poland ... The rest do not want to turn into radioactive dust.
  10. Kairbek
    Kairbek 18 January 2022 17: 59
    +4
    Thank you Germans!!!!! I hope this is not your only action?
    Again, the same world forces are trying to pit us .. Remember this!
  11. Kapany3
    Kapany3 18 January 2022 18: 05
    +1
    Quote: Operator_L
    Meanwhile, the net outflow of capital from Russia in 2021 amounted to $72 billion, which is $22 billion more than in 2020. About 750 billion rubles “evaporated” from the NWF after the transfer of the Russian army to the Donbass - this is caused by the strongest collapse since the spring of 2020 Russian stock market. As a result of exchange sales against the background of reports about the transfer of the Russian army to the border with Ukraine, the cost of a controlling stake in the country's largest state-owned bank shrank from 3,568 to 3,312 trillion rubles. The Ministry of Finance lost another 1 billion rubles on the securities of Aeroflot, which were bought as part of the operation to save the national carrier from the pandemic crisis.
    Thus, only in December, the National Welfare Fund suffered a loss of 257 billion rubles due to the fall of the Russian market, and in January these losses increased along with the collapse of stock indices to their minimums for almost a year.

    The cumulative total for December and 18 days of January, the National Welfare Fund lost 746 billion rubles on investments in state-owned companies that are rapidly falling in price.

    But what's really interesting is why British planes didn't use German airspace.

    And where is the supposed 'cheers'?
    1. demiurg
      demiurg 18 January 2022 18: 16
      +8
      I'm not hinting at anything, but. This is a quote from a Ukrainian correspondent. no. There, every day, a pack of such joyful news about how the Russian Federation will soon go bankrupt.
      1. Asad
        Asad 18 January 2022 19: 17
        -10
        For the sake of laughter, look at what is happening on the Russian stock exchange, Armageddon!
  12. demiurg
    demiurg 18 January 2022 18: 12
    +1
    The Germans do not want modern grenades to hit the monkeys. The Germans have this viper at their side.
    And the British need to drown the European Union, from which they fled.
    The Germans may throw some weapons into Ireland in retaliation.
  13. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 18 January 2022 18: 27
    +2
    ... "The United Kingdom recently decided to supply anti-tank systems for the needs of the armed forces of Ukraine" ...
    Is this such a "revenge" for the fact that our submarine tore off their sonar from a frigate?
    wassat
    The poor things got offended.
  14. ugol2
    ugol2 18 January 2022 18: 43
    +9
    It seems to me that the Hans of the Britons do not like
  15. fif21
    fif21 18 January 2022 18: 48
    0
    The US and England are kicking the EU to war. Can the EU, together with the Russian Federation, weigh a magic pendal to the "partners" who have lost their shores? hi
  16. ERsytype
    ERsytype 18 January 2022 18: 57
    -1
    Perhaps they could fly through Germany, but there was a possibility that the tolerant ones would land the planes. And this was apparently unacceptable. Germany is the weak link of the Anglo-Saxons in the European Union.
    Therefore, the states will never withdraw their army from the territory of the former Reich.
  17. ork_333
    ork_333 18 January 2022 19: 35
    +1
    Quote: frruc
    I would not say that a flight from England via Germany to Ukraine is shorter than via Denmark and Poland. Perhaps they are misleading, just a hook is obtained through Germany.

    It depends on which airfield in England to fly out and which one in Ukraine to land on.
  18. cniza
    cniza 18 January 2022 20: 45
    +4
    This gives reason to say that Britain and Germany are in a state of dispute over the supply of weapons to Ukraine.


    This is no longer a dispute, but looks more like a confrontation and it's not so much about Ukraine ...
  19. VLAD-96
    VLAD-96 18 January 2022 21: 27
    +3
    Who, if not the Germans, know what the outcome will be?
  20. opuonmed
    opuonmed 18 January 2022 22: 31
    -6
    so it is necessary to supply weapons to the rebels in Ireland so that the Russian Federation supplies weapons)
  21. Martian
    Martian 19 January 2022 09: 24
    0
    And what about the weakly rotten Russian authorities, to impose sanctions against BP for the supply of weapons by the UK to Ukraine? Remember, BP owns over 30% of Rollsneft and makes wild profits.
  22. Grandfather Mozai
    Grandfather Mozai 19 January 2022 10: 28
    0
    The Englishwoman is shitting everything with ..ka, nothing, soon your America will be kerdyk, we will arrange Kuzkin's mother for all of you!