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CSTO - Kazakhstan gambit

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CSTO - Kazakhstan gambit
Photo: Russian Ministry of Defense


So, the operation "Peace Enforcement" in Kazakhstan has ended.

And in a very short time frame. Seeing the troops in front of their own noses, tens or even hundreds of thousands of rebels and marauders who joined them immediately “turned on the back”. More than five thousand people, whom President K.-J. Tokayev called it a “flock of hyenas,” and ended up behind bars.

What follows from all this?

What conclusions should all participants and event operators draw?

So far they are diametrically opposed.


Photo: Russian Ministry of Defense

The army team was extremely satisfied with the military-technical side of the action.

Russian paratroopers have shown the world the highest level of mobility. From the Ivanovo barracks to the Kazakh steppes. And in a couple of hours. The CSTO confirmed its status as a military alliance. Alliance troops received the first experience of combat coordination.

But were politicians and diplomats satisfied?

This question is still open.

Expert view


“What are our fighters, call boys, or what? - military expert Alexander Zhilin, a retired lieutenant colonel, is perplexed, pleasantly surprised by the swift throw of our units, and unpleasantly - by the equally rapid curtailment of the CSTO mission.


Source: miheev-politolog.ru

Political scientist Sergei Mikheev suggested that for K-Zh. Tokaev, everything is just beginning - given his still weak resource. Although a number of domestic political steps, clearly prompted by Russian political technologists, are playing into his hands so far. And Sergey Alexandrovich repeatedly made it clear in his speeches that in this way our troops could well turn around to protect the Russian population living in Kazakhstan.

Although it is not entirely clear what this implies.

Firstly, the Russian population did not take any part in this revolt of conspirators and marauders (except for the Russian officer of the border school who died in the shootout), and no one touched him. These were exclusively intra-Kazakh disassembly of clans and the struggle for the vacant chair of the main bai.

Secondly, Russophobia, which has become one of the foundations of the country's national ideology, is a terribly contagious disease (as practice shows). And it is necessary to burn it out not with exhortations, but with concrete actions. And sometimes very harsh.

Judging by recent events, words do not work now in the sphere of foreign diplomacy either. Only cases count. And, alas, Tokayev once again clearly confirmed this - by the very first appointment to the post of Minister of Information of the terry Russophobe Askar Umarov (pictured).


Thanks don't wait


Is it possible to count on any kind of gratitude from the new bai, supported by the bayonets of the Russian troops?

Of course not.

Gratitude is not an integral part of big politics at all.

Yes, and the nature of people too. This is a short lived event. And knowing the national character of the Kazakhs, we can safely assume that in a couple of months they will consider the appearance of troops in their country as some kind of temporary misunderstanding, a mirage, a plot from a fairy tale.

It was - and floated away. Or maybe it didn't exist at all. I dreamed of all this ... And now we will figure it out here ourselves, without the Russians. This is our land, and we are the masters in it. Everyone else is a guest. Often uninvited.

And how they will understand - it's easy to guess. The army of arrested marauders will be amnestied for the most part. But the only Kazakh Russophile in the whole country, blogger and human rights activist Yermek Taychibekov, who was thrown by the republic’s authorities for his beliefs behind a “high-security prison”, will never be released.

Although this could well become a gesture of goodwill of the Kazakh authorities in relation to Russia and to the few supporters of closer Russian-Kazakh integration.

Fictional and cardboard


The entire Kazakh elite and the Kazakhs themselves have been terribly proud of their statehood in recent years. And the fact that this state is “made of cardboard, invented and drawn”, as political scientist Sergei Mikheev noted, is the tenth thing. It's you Russians who think so. We Kazakhs think differently.

And we will continue to wishful thinking and sing songs about a stable and prosperous Kazakhstan. True, as it turned out, not only the state itself, but also the army and police guarding and protecting it, are “drawn” and “fictional” in Kazakhstan.


Photo: nur.kz/Vladimir Tretyakov

For taking bribes on the roads, playing cards in the barracks and resisting an angry mob are two different things. Even diametrically opposed. But such is the Asian specificity.

On the other hand, for ten years we have been training a local army of Tajiks and Uzbeks in Afghanistan. And this army was able to resist the Taliban for less than two years after the withdrawal of our troops.

The Americans generally trained the Afghan police and troops for almost twenty years. American journalists caustically joke that with the money that the White House poured into Afghanistan, it was possible to educate all Afghans, their harems, their children and all donkeys involved in the economy at Harvard and Oxford.

And as a result, trained soldiers of the local national army, faster than a mountain fallow deer, fled from the incoming Taliban, throwing Hummers, Tanks and helicopters.

And is it worth it then to bother with teaching the untrained?

Let them learn military (and police) business in a real way without us. Somehow.

Subtotal


So it's all for nothing?

Yes, not really.

Let's start with the fact that we, and together with our allies, nipped in the bud a civil war that is rapidly flaring up in a neighboring country. Or rather, the bloody slaughter of clans according to the African version.

And thus we achieved peace on our common borders.

And they are huge. Moreover, this war would rapidly suck into its funnel flows of radicals and Islamists from all neighboring Asian regions - up to Afghanistan.

Surely, some fundamental agreements were reached on Baikonur and the prospective deployment of Russian military bases at key points - in the area of ​​the same uranium mines, for example.

No less important is the complete coincidence of positions towards Kazakhstan in China and Russia - the two great neighbors of the former Asian "island of stability". This means that neither Turkey, nor the United States with Europe in Kazakhstan will allow anyone to "play like an adult" in geopolitics.

And not only Erdogan's longed-for dream is being postponed - the Caspian will not be taken into the Turkish "ring of influence". Failed players realized that this is the zone of our vital interests, and please do not meddle here. To avoid.

It is important to realize, albeit in this way, that the myth of the stability of the neighboring republic collapsed like a house of cards. Because myths, especially in geopolitics, are a very insidious thing.

One of the reasons for the fall of the seemingly unshakable Soviet Union was precisely the mythologization of real life, which actually accumulated a critical mass of unresolved problems. And the soothing myth was replaced by a cruel life reality.

And I also really want to hope that now close cooperation between Russian and Kazakh special services will be established in the republic. And specialists from Kazakhstan will not run and follow the local Russians, but fight Islamic radicals.


And they are there.

Tens of thousands of young people in Kazakhstan have "sat down on the mat" over the past few years. And cutting off the heads of local law enforcement officers is still not a Kazakh national tradition. This is the handwriting of uninvited guests from abroad.

The “dislocation” of Islamic radicalism in Kazakhstan must not be allowed to grow to dangerous proportions. So the specialists have something to attend to.

True, it so happened that the chief Chekist of Kazakhstan himself ended up in prison after the putsch - as the main suspect in organizing the rebellion.

How else to explain the fact that twenty thousand "sleeper agents", about which the president spoke, somehow magically did not fall into the sphere of attention of the Kazakh special services?

Only one - the local special services "slept with them in an embrace." Most likely, at the direction of his chief security officer.

And the biography of the country's chief intelligence officer itself hints at the fact that he was not recruited except perhaps by Martian intelligence.

But even if the boss is now destined to "sit on the bunk" for many years, then the normal Chekists have remained in the office. And it is from them that we will have to make a reliable shield against Islamic radicalism.

And do it together with the Russians.

No wonder the same Mikheev recalls that

"We Russians have always been strong in our toughness, openness and straightforwardness."
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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 21 January 2022 13: 05
    +4
    So, the operation "Peace Enforcement" in Kazakhstan has ended.
    Don't say "hoop!" More like the first step. Tokayev has not presented 20 yet.
    1. Konnick
      Konnick 21 January 2022 13: 18
      +1
      Tokayev has not presented 20 yet.

      And severed heads...
      1. svp67
        svp67 21 January 2022 15: 46
        +1
        Quote: Konnick
        And severed heads...

        Where should he show them?
      2. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 22 January 2022 12: 56
        +1
        Quote: Konnick
        Tokayev has not presented 20 yet.

        And severed heads...

        Well, dear .... You need this in ISIS. And Takaev is a respected person, like GDP. request
        At least a badge from the carcass. (passport, not real) request And then it turns out "the crow croaked at the top of its crow's throat: 20", "and silence" .... request
    2. ViacheslavS
      ViacheslavS 21 January 2022 22: 23
      +3
      Tokayev explained the reasons for the rebellion

      Tokayev told what served as a match and a powder keg for protests

      162 people have concentrated in their hands the main assets of Kazakhstan, while most of the country's inhabitants live on $1,3 thousand a year, Tokayev said. According to him, this income gap was the main reason for the protests.

      The events of early January in Kazakhstan exposed the problems that had been accumulating for years, the income gap between the rich and the poor had reached an unacceptable level. This was stated by the President of the Republic Kassym-Jomart Tokayev at a meeting with businessmen, Tengri News reports.

      “This stratification in income played the role of a lit match and a powder keg, which was used by terrorist fighters and the conspirators behind them,” Tokayev said.

      International experts claim that only 162 people own half of [the country's] fortune. While half of the population's income does not exceed 50 thousand tenge. This is a little more than $1,3 thousand per year. It is impossible to live on such money, the situation needs to be urgently changed.


      According to Tokayev, real reforms are needed that meet the interests of the country's citizens. He suggested that businessmen "urgently begin" to work together to reset economic policy and define "new rules of the game" - "honest and fair." Addressing entrepreneurs, the head of state also expressed confidence that it is big business, “our bourgeoisie”, that is interested in the reforms. “Because the business elite of our country has something to lose,” he explained.
      1. Basarev
        Basarev 22 January 2022 08: 21
        +4
        He wasn't talking about Russia, was he? We have exactly the same problems.
  2. rocket757
    rocket757 21 January 2022 13: 14
    +3
    What follows from all this?

    What conclusions should all participants and event operators draw?

    So far they are diametrically opposed.
    For anyone, it won’t settle down right away, events will continue.
    In which direction it will go, one can only guess.
    1. carpenter
      carpenter 21 January 2022 15: 14
      +4
      Quote: rocket757
      For anyone, it won’t settle down right away, events will continue.
      In which direction it will go, one can only guess.

      And thousands of "fed" Islamists and radicals have not gone away from the country, and they are waiting for their time.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 21 January 2022 15: 23
        +1
        There are figures who keep quiet, but the nationalists act openly and arrogantly!!! They are covered by a real "roof", and this is a diagnosis !!!
    2. svp67
      svp67 21 January 2022 15: 48
      +5
      Quote: rocket757
      In which direction it will go, one can only guess.

      At this stage, the Kazakh security forces received a "magic pendel" and the direction of their movement will be known for sure. Now they will still condemn the "defectors", free themselves from the "wavering" and be ready to serve the new Khan
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 21 January 2022 19: 28
        +1
        Also a real option .... time will tell where and how they will go.
        1. Mavrikiy
          Mavrikiy 22 January 2022 13: 08
          +2
          Quote: rocket757
          Also a real option .... time will tell where and how they will go.

          belay Seriously, history has shown more than once. request And you don't have to mess with grandma. This is our luck. Lenin, Stalin, maybe Putin, because "distances of enormous size" (inertia, they all started not where they were moving), but the husk is only looking for someone to lean against (in the sense of who will give more, the only criterion).
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 22 January 2022 13: 11
            -1
            Rybka is looking for where it is deeper, and politicians are looking for ... at least where the mess is!
            1. Mavrikiy
              Mavrikiy 22 January 2022 13: 15
              +1
              Quote: rocket757
              Rybka is looking for where it is deeper, and politicians are looking for ... at least where the mess is!

              This is not our method. And we can't agree with that! This is not a politician, but ...... So right. The interest of a politician is in the interest of the country, and the interest of the country is not in the mess. request
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 22 January 2022 13: 38
                0
                And again, we can return to the statement that nothing depends on people, when choosing those who will then manage them ...
                So we often repeat that we ourselves chose those who later have them ... you can’t even call this an excuse / excuse, because the situation is about the same for everyone.
    3. Vladimir Mashkov
      Vladimir Mashkov 22 January 2022 22: 16
      0
      The CSTO operation in Kazakhstan was undoubtedly necessary and successful. But that will be in Kazakhstan - it is really difficult to say. Who needs to be observed and, perhaps, shared with us. smile
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 22 January 2022 23: 09
        +1
        Guess, don't guess ... you can just wait.
  3. Revival
    Revival 21 January 2022 13: 27
    +10
    "How else to explain the fact that the twenty thousand "sleeper agents" about which the president spoke, somehow magically did not fall into the sphere of attention of the Kazakh special services?

    It seems to me that they did not fall into anyone's sphere of attention.
    Where are the 20000 foreign fighters?
    The chatter of the tops of theirs was about them, but what about the evidence?
    Evaporated, obviously....
    1. businessv
      businessv 21 January 2022 13: 40
      -9
      Quote: Revival
      Where are the 20000 foreign fighters?
      The chatter of the tops of theirs was about them, but what about the evidence?

      If you look at the map, you can get from Alma-Ata to Kyrgyzstan (where the militants came from) in 1,5 hours and cross the border without anyone noticing. Therefore, it will not be possible to present due to the lack of escapees. Although, a lot of people were captured, and there are a lot of witnesses who heard foreign speech.
      1. Revival
        Revival 21 January 2022 14: 26
        +8
        Yep, that's what I thought.
        There were demons and they themselves evaporated ...
        clumsily
      2. Humpty
        Humpty 21 January 2022 14: 37
        +1
        Quote: businessv
        If you look at the map, you can get from Alma-Ata to Kyrgyzstan (where the militants came from) in 1,5 hours and cross the border without anyone noticing.

        Man, you should see a doctor. I'm not trying to say that this is always with you, but now it's better to consult a specialist.
        1. businessv
          businessv 21 January 2022 23: 45
          -4
          Quote: Humpty
          Man, you should see a doctor. I'm not trying to say that it's always with you,
          Guys in Siberia are felling the forest! I am from Alma-Ata, but have you ever been there, sofa expert!?
          1. Humpty
            Humpty 22 January 2022 06: 21
            +4
            Quote: businessv
            Men in Siberia felling the forest

            Do you swear on Aunt Patla? Joke.
            Didn't mean to offend, really. Why retell someone's speculation, and dirty.
            There are quite a few former Alma-Ata residents in Tovar, and there are also those who live there. As a rule, people speak normally. But you might as well not introduce yourself. Recognized by voice.
            You there, as you understand, like a fish in water, tell me, what, they clean the road to Ozerny in winter, so that in 1,5 hours from Alma-Ata to Kyrgyzstan to get? And there are no border guards?
            Thanks! Looking forward to helpful information.
            1. businessv
              businessv 23 January 2022 21: 11
              -1
              Quote: Humpty
              to get from Alma-Ata to Kyrgyzstan in 1,5 hours? And there are no border guards?
              Thanks! Looking forward to helpful information.

              I passed back a little, but did not understand the main thing? If during the entire time of the riots they took 5000 people to the zindan, how many could slip away across the non-existent border? Or with common sense and fighting at odds? No need to wait for useful information, you just need to turn on the brain when writing a post!
              1. Humpty
                Humpty 24 January 2022 06: 25
                0
                Quote: businessv
                I passed back a little, but did not understand the main thing? If during the entire time of the riots they took 5000 people to the zindan, how many could slip away across the non-existent border? Or with common sense and fighting at odds? No need to wait for useful information, you just need to turn on the brain when writing a post!

                If he decided that they grazed goats together, then where is the border "does not exist"? On Beishek, on Ak-Tuz? Or have you not been there for a long time?
                And where it is really full of holes, there it is not very for everyone.
                Unlike you from my sofa, I know this border completely without a trace. And if I can write comments, this is a guarantee that I am always friends with brains. And I have a lot of information about this.
                Tales of the Kazakh forest that the Kyrgyz came and made a bad one right on the table, I hear from school days.

                So where is the border full of holes for illegal crossing?
                1. businessv
                  businessv 25 January 2022 13: 21
                  0
                  Quote: Humpty
                  So where is the border full of holes for illegal crossing?
                  Yes, everywhere it is full of holes for a pedestrian crossing, everywhere! The same as between Kazakhstan and Russia! And also through the passage gorge, which can be completely overcome in a couple of transitions and from Issyk-Kul get straight to Alma-Ata. In order to navigate what happened and how, you just need to watch TV news less. And I didn’t write about the Kyrgyz, Google to help about the barmaley, who were brought to Kyrgyzstan about a year ago, by whom and for what purpose. hi
                  1. Humpty
                    Humpty 25 January 2022 14: 17
                    +1
                    Quote: businessv
                    Yes, everywhere it is full of holes for a pedestrian crossing, everywhere! The same as between Kazakhstan and Russia!

                    From Kazakhstan, these gorges are controlled. From Kyrgyzstan, only partially. The valley part is well controlled by both sides. including hundreds of kilometers
                    barbed wire and KSP. Of course, for a small group of "enthusiasts" of 5-10 people, it is not a problem to cross it illegally in the ChKP area. But again, this number is by no means for everyone. The border between Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan is allegedly closed due to covid (almost 2 years) for citizens of the Kyrgyz Republic to cross, citizens of the Kyrgyz Republic can. It can also creak truck drivers and air passengers. In the pogroms in Alma-Ata, the Kirghiz did appear, but sorry, there are many of them who live there permanently, and why would they behave differently on such an occasion than in Bishkek ...
                    If there were trained foreign participants in the pogroms, then most likely they have already been taken out. Presumably by air. hi
                    1. businessv
                      businessv 25 January 2022 21: 12
                      +1
                      Quote: Humpty
                      If there were trained foreign participants in the pogroms, then most likely they have already been taken out. Presumably by air.

                      There were videos in bulk, as well as comments from witnesses to preliminary interviews after the arrest. I won’t throw off the link, I can’t find it, it was very interesting to read that they were brought in about a year ago, about 200 people, prepared to work with sleeping people, etc., but it’s unlikely that they were taken out, who needs it? Themselves, themselves, or at the expense! These have fulfilled their part of the contract, they are waste material. Although more than one was probably arrested, we will not find out about their testimony for well-known reasons. Regarding the border, if you are aware of the matter, then it is controlled very conditionally, especially at night, so everyone has their own opinion. smile
                      1. Humpty
                        Humpty 26 January 2022 05: 56
                        +1
                        Quote: businessv
                        Regarding the border, if you are aware of the matter, then it is controlled very conditionally, especially at night, so everyone has their own opinion.

                        I know not in theory. This is the trough. And barbed wire in the valley part in order to fill the trough better.
                        Only wolf show-offs with the transition of militants are of no interest to anyone there. For example, terrorists from Kazakhstan traveled to Kyrgyzstan five to seven years ago
                        in a legal way. They then slammed four of them. About werewolves in uniform on the border on both sides, this is not a much different topic. A lot of fun and not fun I know firsthand. hi
                        PySy. I can even write brochures about clowns in uniform on this border.
                        But some other time.
              2. Humpty
                Humpty 24 January 2022 06: 58
                +1
                Quote: businessv
                turn on your brain when you write a post!

                When the last time in Kazakhstan, Kazakh criminal groups staged pogroms with murders, there was also the dumbest attempt to steal everything on the Kyrgyz. Did not work out. Now the pride of Almaty residents is that video cameras are installed in all toilet bowls, so it is possible to identify any person even in a hood. Let now calculate.
                1. businessv
                  businessv 26 January 2022 09: 03
                  +1
                  Quote: Humpty
                  When the last time in Kazakhstan, Kazakh criminal groups staged pogroms with murders, there was also the dumbest attempt to steal everything on the Kyrgyz.

                  To be honest, I haven’t heard about it, but it’s quite possible, to whom else can it be thrown off if you yourself had a hand in this? smile In Kazakhstan, there have always been national sentiments, even in Soviet times, not in vain, because the first performance was in the Kazakh SSR in 1986!
                  1. Humpty
                    Humpty 26 January 2022 09: 44
                    0
                    Quote: businessv
                    To be honest, I haven’t heard about it, but it’s quite possible, to whom else can it be thrown off if you yourself had a hand in this?

                    When the Dungans were attacked. "Professional Kazakhs" at first on the network blamed everything on the Kyrgyz. They say they crossed the border, killed people, burned houses. Then they ran back. For Kazakhs, the Kyrgyz are a sore subject. And she appeared a long time ago. I note the earliest game about the Kirghiz, written down on paper, in the sixties of the 19th century. There lived one type, was considered an educator, an officer and even a scout. The fact that he was also culturally marked as a talker and a deserter is not remembered now. It reminds me of how Altaians and Tuvans talk about each other. The same, they came, they stole, they beat, they left.
                    1. businessv
                      businessv 26 January 2022 21: 11
                      0
                      Quote: Humpty
                      For Kazakhs, the Kyrgyz are a sore subject. And she appeared a long time ago.

                      To be honest, I haven't heard. Although my friends were mostly Uyghurs, and from Kyrgyzstan to us about 200 km, they lived in harmony with both of them. The dacha is still in Issyk-Kul. True, I do not know in what condition - I have not been for a long time.
  4. Koval Sergey
    Koval Sergey 21 January 2022 13: 28
    +10
    The author cites mutually exclusive things:
    Is it possible to count on any kind of gratitude from the new bai, supported by the bayonets of the Russian troops?
    Of course not.
    And knowing the national character of the Kazakhs, we can safely assume that in a couple of months they will consider the appearance of troops in their country as some kind of temporary misunderstanding

    And at the end of the article
    I would very much like to hope that now close cooperation between Russian and Kazakh special services will be established in the republic. And specialists from Kazakhstan will not run and follow the local Russians, but fight Islamic radicals.
    1. Revival
      Revival 21 January 2022 13: 33
      +2
      This is reality and dreams
  5. sen
    sen 21 January 2022 13: 30
    +10
    An acquaintance who lived in Kazakhstan told me. The chief, as a rule, was a Kazakh, but he took a Russian as a deputy - someone had to work.
    1. paul3390
      paul3390 21 January 2022 14: 10
      +10
      I took a Russian as a deputy - someone needs to work.

      So - it was like that in all SSRs ...
      1. faiver
        faiver 21 January 2022 20: 44
        +1
        It has not only been so, and continues to be so in the national regions of the Russian Federation.
  6. Revival
    Revival 21 January 2022 13: 32
    +9
    And what are the results?
    Where are the military bases?
    Where are closed biolaboratories?
    Why Russophobe in ministers?
    Where...etc?

    "Our fighters are call boys, or what? - military expert Alexander Zhilin is perplexed."
  7. tatra
    tatra 21 January 2022 13: 33
    0
    Putin helped, firstly, the Russophobes, and secondly, the enemies of the communists, who, as they themselves proved, have no sense of gratitude at all.
    And what is this "achievement" of the army that it was able to quickly transfer thousands of military personnel from one territory to another?
    The only result of this mess is that Tokayev removed the Nazarbayev clan from power, and the Russian Federation senselessly spent a lot of money on this "landing" in Kazakhstan.
  8. Two
    Two 21 January 2022 13: 38
    +9
    Usual mezhbayskie disassembly! All my life it was like that there. In 1986, they were drunk students and ptushers, with rare cannabis in their bulls 0! How, the orys of Kolbin-bay puts! And where are we - Cossacks!? Today, "Molotov cocktails", stolen weapons and national slogans are being added. Motor gas and a low standard of living in oblivion. Most importantly, under the general noise, grab gadgets for yourself and your family, in reserve! And them, the Mandalays. for a long time they will be caught by identification signs and signs arbitrarily registered in the networks. But this is for them tom-tom! The main thing is to walk around the village with a brand new iPhone... Even if not for long...
  9. Doccor18
    Doccor18 21 January 2022 13: 46
    +8
    ... as a result, trained soldiers of the local national army fled faster than a mountain fallow deer from the incoming Taliban, abandoning Hummers, tanks and helicopters.

    For me, the problem is not in professionalism, but in ideology, in theory. "Students" have a colossal theoretical monolith, in the form of Islam, raising it to the absolute, living it. And what ideology did the Americans bestow on the Afghan military and civilians? “Either you are rich, or you are nothing”, “money is the goal of life”, etc., etc. ... That is, there is no ideology, no principles, no sense for the Afghan army. And all this unstable structure rested only on the dollar and the overseas contingent. As soon as these two "cementing factors" disappeared, the structure fell apart from a small kick ...
    It’s not enough to give a person a weapon in his hands, you also need to motivate him in the most understandable way ... Agitation and propaganda has always been in the first place ...
    1. V means B
      V means B 21 January 2022 22: 28
      +1
      And what kind of ideology do we have, let's take a step away from the topic, just wondering? And it turns out that the article of the constitution is not correct and what kind of ideology is needed?
      1. Doccor18
        Doccor18 22 January 2022 07: 49
        +1
        Quote: V is for B
        What is our ideology?

        Capitalism.
  10. nikvic46
    nikvic46 21 January 2022 13: 52
    +4
    Their propagandists protect their oligarchs. And we are no exception. While we were scolding the West in every way, the Kazakhs did not even say a word of reproach in that direction. This means that all this will continue. And Chevron will not go anywhere. Protestants can be divided into several groups. These are people who are outraged by their position. And a large number of lumpen. As well as random people. As long as influential people divide the tidbits of the economy among themselves, all this will continue throughout the post-Soviet space. Oligarchs divide and appropriate not only raw materials, plants and factories. They began to privatize spiritual values. And after that, there is enough impudence to characterize the Russian people.
  11. Rusfaner
    Rusfaner 21 January 2022 13: 59
    +6
    "... then the normal security officers remained in the Office. And it is from them that they will have to make a reliable shield against Islamic radicalism." (c) - "Blessed is he who believes!" (c)
    The "office" in KZ is the head of racketeering and, hardly, more ...
  12. Humpty
    Humpty 21 January 2022 14: 13
    +1
    There is no need to pretend that in Russia it is about the quality of stability and the professional qualities of a significant part of the KZ security officials. only Medinsky was aware. And that, only because his adviser shone several pages in the book.
  13. p0pulivox
    p0pulivox 21 January 2022 15: 45
    +2
    The army team was extremely satisfied with the military-technical side of the action.
    Russian paratroopers have shown the world the highest level of mobility. From the Ivanovo barracks to the Kazakh steppes. And in a couple of hours. The CSTO confirmed its status as a military alliance. Alliance troops received the first experience of combat coordination.

    Yes, but the VTA during this period was practically unable to perform other tasks ...
    But were politicians and diplomats satisfied?
    This question is still open.
    If we recall the faces of the commander-in-chief and his marshal when discussing the issue of the urgent withdrawal of the contingent, then they did not look satisfied. Based on the results of the whole situation in the Republic of Kazakhstan, it can be assumed that the Russian Federation will not be its main beneficiary ...
  14. odometer
    odometer 21 January 2022 15: 46
    +9
    You need to know the realities of Kazakhstan... Both current and Soviet ones. Russia dug a hole for the Russians in Kazakhstan ... They got political gain ... and received 3 million. hostages. Any sane Russian in Kazakhstan knows - the Russian Federation will not help ... Concern and co-operation - yes, there will be no real help.
  15. Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish 21 January 2022 16: 02
    +4
    There is information on the Internet that in Kazakhstan 161 people own 55% of the national wealth. Well... Helping the mega-oligarchy of Kazakhstan is our everything. As I understand it, with the money of pensioners who were poured down the toilet, calling this stinking action "pension reform".
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  17. bandabas
    bandabas 21 January 2022 16: 43
    +1
    It's useless to do anything with these bashi-bazouks. It's in their blood...
    From the film "At Home Among Strangers, Stranger Among Our Own".
    What if I couldn't swim?
    Drown would, burdock, and all the cases.
    Why did you save me.
    I drowned...
    Didn't you take gold?
    To yourself, to yourself...
    only you know 'to yourself' and 'for what'.
    Ah, you are a dark man.
    But do you know that horns are growing on your head now?
    Everyone who robs his own poor brothers will grow horns on their heads.
    Understood?
    It's a shame, brother.
    It's embarrassing and bad.
    You call Bai a dog, but you want to become a Bai.
    You will recruit laborers, you will beat them with a whip.
    You will.
    This, brother, is Marxism, you can’t get away from it ... science.
  18. V means B
    V means B 21 January 2022 22: 34
    +1
    “And Sergey Alexandrovich repeatedly made it clear in his speeches that in this way our troops could well turn around to protect the Russian population living in Kazakhstan.

    Although it is not yet entirely clear what this implies.
    No, of course it doesn't follow from anything. This is how Mikheev fantasized. In the former "fraternal" Russians, everyone is very fond of. Only I'm afraid the comrade is right, that he already wrote here that in which case the only thing from us will be that concern and calls to "live together."
  19. Far B
    Far B 22 January 2022 06: 10
    +4
    CSTO confirmed its status as a military alliance
    Did I miss something? Kazakhstan fought with someone?
  20. evgen1221
    evgen1221 22 January 2022 08: 48
    +1
    It is now important what vector of decisions their authorities will have - to the people of the booty or vice versa, from here there will be all the consequences in the future.
  21. wolf46
    wolf46 22 January 2022 13: 20
    0
    And knowing the national character of the Kazakhs, we can safely assume that in a couple of months they will consider the appearance of troops in their country as some kind of temporary misunderstanding, a mirage, a plot from a fairy tale.
    Armenia has remained on the world map thanks to Russia. And how many demarches from Pashinyan were.. If guarantees were given at least for business in the Republic of Kazakhstan, then they are worth nothing without a force factor.
  22. Illanatol
    Illanatol 22 January 2022 13: 51
    -2
    Quote: tatra
    Putin helped, firstly, the Russophobes, and secondly, the enemies of the communists, who, as they themselves proved, have no sense of gratitude at all.
    The only result of this mess is that Tokayev removed the Nazarbayev clan from power, and the Russian Federation senselessly spent a lot of money on this "landing" in Kazakhstan.


    But were honest proletarians, fighters for the people's happiness, opposed these "Russophobes-enemies of the Communists"? Are you sure about that?
    Is one Banderlogia not enough for us? Was it necessary to exchange one more cuckoo for a hawk? Where are the guarantees
    that the "restoration" of the Nazarbayev regime would not be followed by the coming to power of the ISIS?
    Of two evils, choose the lesser. What is now in Kazakhstan is certainly evil, the compratodor oligarchy in its purest form. But what could come to replace him is much worse.
  23. Whatman
    Whatman 22 January 2022 14: 58
    -2
    Everything is easier. There they had a dual power. Now the situation has been resolved, Moscow has supported the new Elbasy. Everything has already happened
  24. George Koval
    George Koval 23 January 2022 01: 26
    0
    In my opinion, the author has a lot of unreasonable optimism: if the Anglo-Saxons got into Kazakhstan because of our negligence, then now they cannot be uprooted from there!
  25. Comrade Kim
    Comrade Kim 23 January 2022 02: 47
    -1
    Quote: Mavrikiy
    . And Takaev is a respected person,

    Don't make mice laugh.
    Tokayev is Trump's creature.
    And he came to power after Trump froze Nazyrbai’s 20 yards of dollars (Trump thawed the money, but for this he put Tokai at the helm and made Nazarbai an all-Kazakh grandmother).
    Both are on a short, pink leash at the State Department, both are good.
    PS If it weren’t for the victims, then let the Kazakhs, Uzbeks, Tajiks, Kyrgyz, Swiss get mad at least once a month if the state grandfather indexes pensions for our pensioners as in January 2022.
    Still, the sphincters at the top were tightly compressed for a couple of days.
    The fat cats, whose sour cream they ate, understood. On the radio, Nazarbai even made excuses that he had not run away anywhere. Yes, we in Moscow can’t breathe from illegal immigrants even without him.
  26. Humpty
    Humpty 27 January 2022 14: 02
    0
    Quote: businessv
    The dacha is still in Issyk-Kul. True, I do not know in what condition - I have not been for a long time.

    In Mikhailovka?