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American historian: There is a risk of civil war and the collapse of the United States

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Specialists in stories the outbreak of civil wars believe that the situation in the United States is a matter of concern. After all, the split of society in this country can lead to an explosion of violence that could engulf all of America.


This opinion was expressed by Yale University history professor Timothy Snyder in an interview with the American edition of Business Insider.

The scientist observes a number of signs that, due to the conflict between different sections of society, there is a risk of civil war and the collapse of the United States. In this case, the United States will forever cease to exist in the form we are used to. In his opinion, such a scenario could happen if the former President of America, Donald Trump, runs in the next election in 2024 and, as a result of victory, takes the presidency again.

Snyder believes that in the United States, the head of state can be the one who does not get the required number of votes. In this case, he will be able to resort to certain manipulations and use loopholes in American law to come to power.

Several states simply need to abstain from voting in elections. Then the House of Representatives votes, then the Supreme Court blesses the entire configuration, and all of a sudden we have the incumbent president of the United States.

- the professor explains the mechanism of this machination.

In his opinion, in this case, part of society will not accept such a course of events, and an intra-civil conflict will break out.
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  1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
    Nikolay Ivanov_5 15 January 2022 18: 33
    +6
    We stock up on popcorn and sit comfortably on the couch in front of the TV.
    1. ser-pov
      ser-pov 15 January 2022 18: 46
      +17
      My opinion! Nothing good will come of it! If the de.bi.lys from the military-industrial complex of America were in no hurry to earn candy wrappers, which then the fuck would no longer be needed by anyone, then this aggravation would not have happened .... The outskirts are secondary for them. They need a big war, but without US territory. Then they crap themselves, because now they get weapons everywhere, even in the bunker ,,,
      1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
        Nikolay Ivanov_5 15 January 2022 18: 58
        +23
        American totalitarian liberalism and terrorism have already got everyone.
        1. Labrador
          Labrador 15 January 2022 21: 11
          +8
          due to conflict between different sections of society, there is a risk of civil war and the collapse of the United States.

          Amen!
          1. isv000
            isv000 16 January 2022 13: 37
            +2
            Quote: Labrador
            due to conflict between different sections of society, there is a risk of civil war and the collapse of the United States.

            You are on the right path, comrades! Good luck!
            1. tikhonov66
              tikhonov66 17 January 2022 12: 48
              +2
              Verily!
              - we wish them good luck in defending their internal and purely personal interests with the entire mass of weapons accumulated by the civilian population ... let the good old Smuel Colt again "make all Americans equal"
              8-)
      2. ser-pov
        ser-pov 15 January 2022 19: 20
        -27
        Don't give a damn, it's not good for us! Let them bark better than the revolutionary masses get nuclear weapons .. PS If only the revolutionary masses do not consist of angry copies of Shoigu ..., laughing
        1. tikhonov66
          tikhonov66 17 January 2022 12: 50
          0
          "... than the revolutionary masses will get nuclear weapons
          ..."
          - "revolutionary masses" - nuclear weapons are useless.
          Why do they need this hemorrhoids.
          They have enough rifle for their eyes.
          Yes, even armored transport - to take away the loot.
      3. Artemion3
        Artemion3 15 January 2022 19: 29
        +7
        They clearly do not want a big one with China or us, but they love the little victorious ones.
        1. Alien From
          Alien From 15 January 2022 20: 19
          +5
          States may fall apart, greed will never ...
        2. Fiesta
          Fiesta 15 January 2022 21: 49
          +11
          They clearly do not want a big one with China or us, but they love the little victorious ones.

          Plus, the United States has never participated in wars where the war "came to them." Even from Pearl Harbor, they almost have a trauma for generations, and modern weapons allow them to calmly strike at the US mainland.

          It seems to me that it is precisely ignorance of the destructiveness of war on one's own territory that leads to the "cowboyism" of the United States, but the Old World has been bitterly taught this.
        3. isv000
          isv000 16 January 2022 13: 39
          +3
          Quote: Artemion3
          They clearly do not want a big one with China or us, but they love the little victorious ones.

          Now you can’t sit out behind a puddle, delivery vehicles will not allow, and, in the presence of strong Russia and China, weaker countries will rally side by side.
      4. mitroha
        mitroha 15 January 2022 20: 17
        +3
        Snyder believes that in the United States, the head of state can be the one who does not get the required number of votes. In this case, he will be able to resort to certain manipulations and use loopholes in American law to come to power.

        "And who did it?" - © laughing
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 16 January 2022 07: 23
          +2
          Quote: Mitroha
          Snyder believes that in the United States, the head of state can be the one who does not get the required number of votes. In this case, he will be able to resort to certain manipulations and use loopholes in American law to come to power.

          "And who did it?" - © laughing

          The answer is obvious - Russian hackers.
          In the next election, no matter who participates, no matter what my heart didn't calm down the matter has not ended - all the same, the "evil Russians" will be to blame and we will get sanctions again.

          A good tradition of American presidential elections is becoming - Russia's intervention and the imposition of sanctions on the results of the elections.
          From 2018 to April 2021, the United States imposed sanctions on us five (!) times for meddling in its elections. fool
          1. Kerensky
            Kerensky 16 January 2022 09: 33
            0
            From 2018 to April 2021, the United States imposed sanctions on us five (!) times for meddling in its elections.

            Igor.
            They impose sanctions on themselves. Those who "get along with the Russians, we will pinch those!"
            American companies are suffering from sanctions.
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 16 January 2022 10: 23
              0
              Quote: Kerensky
              It is they who impose sanctions on themselves.[...]
              American companies are suffering from sanctions.

              Well, “to step on [some part of the body] to oneself” is a matter of individual quick wit and dexterity. Formally, the sanctions are for the American elections; formally, they are on us.
          2. tikhonov66
            tikhonov66 17 January 2022 12: 54
            +1
            Whoever is chosen there, all the same, the "Russian hackers" will be to blame.
            And therefore, "from now on and forever" - any US president - will always be "ours"!
            8-))
    2. dauria
      dauria 15 January 2022 18: 47
      +2
      We sit comfortably on the sofa in front of the TV.

      Have you already learned Beijing Chinese? There will be no other channels. laughing
      When the "cursing yoke" was thrown off, the CPSU also hoped for paradise.
      1. ser-pov
        ser-pov 15 January 2022 19: 02
        -7
        What is what? Leave the CPSU and you will be happy ...
      2. Nikolay Ivanov_5
        Nikolay Ivanov_5 15 January 2022 19: 05
        -8
        Why do you bow so much to the "Western world" ??? Now I'm watching the Euronews TV channel, where Russia is to blame for all the sins, and therefore the entire "Western world" must mobilize to fight and strike at us.
        1. dauria
          dauria 15 January 2022 19: 10
          +18
          Why do you bow so much to the "Western world" ???

          No, I do not bow. But I bow before any even lousy order more than before a mess. I had a chance to feed my family in the 90s.
          And after the chaos always comes order. And there is no guarantee that you will like it.
          1. ser-pov
            ser-pov 15 January 2022 19: 28
            -6
            What's wrong with us now?
            1. kot423
              kot423 15 January 2022 21: 15
              +13
              Quote: ser-pov
              And what a mess we have now

              If "from above" to look - that is not present. But if you go down .... IMHO, it is necessary to lift the moratorium on the "tower", and raise the punishment for bribery and nose-picking among civil servants to the "tower" + confiscation of everything up to the 7th knee of relatives. From ministers to heads of self-government in the regions. Then there would be order both above and below.
              1. ser-pov
                ser-pov 15 January 2022 21: 28
                +5
                I agree completely ... Let's start with United Russia?
                1. Joker62
                  Joker62 16 January 2022 03: 35
                  +4
                  Not only from her, but also from other parties. The current party does not correspond to the realities for the people. But it serves to cover the oligarchs and other suits from theft and corruption.
                  1. tikhonov66
                    tikhonov66 17 January 2022 13: 08
                    0
                    "... The current party does not correspond to the realities for the people
                    ..."
                    - DEMAGOGY. Terry and malicious.
                    Read the Strugatskys - THE TALE OF THE TROIKA.
                    I quote:
                    "...
                    Here Lavr Fedotovich suddenly got up. With a simple eye it was clear that he had passed well after yesterday. Ordinary human weakness shone through his usually stony features. Yes, the granite cracked, the bastion squinted a little, but still, in spite of everything, it stood strong and unyielding.

                    “People…” Bastion said, turning his eyes painfully. - The people do not like to lock themselves in four walls. People need space! The people need fields and rivers. People need wind and sun...

                    - And the moon! Khlebovvodov added, faithfully looking up at the bastion.

                    “And the moon,” Lavr Fedotovich confirmed. - The health of the people must be protected, it belongs to the people. People need outdoor work. The people are stuffy without open air ...

                    We still did not understand anything, even Khlebovvodov was still guessing, and the perceptive Farfurkis was already collecting papers, packing a notebook and whispering something to the commandant. The commandant nodded and respectfully inquired:

                    - Tell me - DO THE PEOPLE - LIKE TO WALK OR DRIVE BY CAR?

                    - People ... - Lavr Fedotovich proclaimed, - PEOPLE PREFER TO RIDE IN AN OPEN CAR. Expressing a common opinion, I propose to postpone the present meeting, and now to hold an off-site meeting scheduled for the evening on relevant cases. Comrade Zubo, provide. - With these words, Lavr Fedotovich sank heavily into an armchair.
                    ..."
                    eight-)))))
                    So, you, dear, would not be for the "people", you would somehow be FOR YOURSELF
                    tensed to speak out.
                    - because, for example, I (as part of the people) - you personally -
                    BROADCASTING ON MY PERSON - DID NOT AUTHORIZE ...
                    - in such an acceptance ...

                    And those citizens who think that this "people's tribune" is right - THINK that if you change something - then "personally" - it DOES NOT NEEDED to become "better" from this longed-for "change" ...
                    - But it's WORSE - it's so easy ...

                    Ddthink-dada... gentlemen.
                    It's hard to think. Before doing anything...
                    Because it "seems", as well as "it's obvious to everyone", as well as "I swear by my mother" - it DOES NOT roll here.
                    From the word at all.
                    The devil is always in the details.
          2. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 15 January 2022 21: 42
            +11
            Quote: dauria
            Why do you bow so much to the "Western world" ???

            No, I do not bow. But I bow before any even lousy order more than before a mess. I had a chance to feed my family in the 90s.
            And after the chaos always comes order. And there is no guarantee that you will like it.
            Yes, and figs with them, it will be their (mattress) mess and their "90s".
            Only now there are doubts that popular riots can lead to the collapse of the United States, since they have been preparing for this since the time of Obama, since several hundred prisons have been built, several million plastic coffins have been purchased, and a decision has been made on the possibility of using the army on its territory. To be successful, the rebels need a leader who will lead the masses, but he is not there, and if he appears, he will very quickly be dressed in an orange robe with chains, or dropped from a skyscraper window. Democracy is like that.
            1. Aleksandre
              Aleksandre 15 January 2022 21: 58
              +8
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              but he is not there, and if he does appear, they will very quickly put on an orange robe with chains, or drop him from the window of a skyscraper.

              A couple of senators who at various times offered the rich to share a little with the poor and along the way had the audacity to claim the post of President of the United States, were simply shot. By the hands of a "lone psychopath", of course
              1. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky 15 January 2022 22: 13
                +3
                Quote: Aleksandre
                Quote: Nyrobsky
                but he is not there, and if he does appear, they will very quickly put on an orange robe with chains, or drop him from the window of a skyscraper.

                A couple of senators who at various times offered the rich to share a little with the poor and along the way had the audacity to claim the post of President of the United States, were simply shot. By the hands of a "lone psychopath", of course
                Here I am about the same. yes
      3. Graz
        Graz 15 January 2022 20: 17
        +6
        The Yankees got tired of their arrogance, snobbery and their higher racialism, so if their state dissolves itself, everyone will breathe freely, most people on the planet will definitely not cry, the Yankees are now Hitler on the eve of June 22, 1941
    3. Hypertension
      Hypertension 15 January 2022 19: 11
      +13
      Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
      We stock up on popcorn and sit comfortably on the couch in front of the TV.

      "We've been sitting here for a long time." (c)
      1. tikhonov66
        tikhonov66 17 January 2022 13: 39
        +1
        "...
        "We've been sitting here for a long time." (c)
        ..."
        - and the longer we sit - the more wonderful and wonderful ... 8-))
        Verily!

        - That verification of the identity of voters - will be declared "racial discrimination",
        - Then the Stars and Stripes withdraw THEIR troops from Afghanistan so QUICKLY and effectively that they forget to withdraw ALL their ALLIES.
        - The same striped ones - they adopt a super-duper fighter, which has more than 1000 "critical defects", flies with difficulty and costs more than a battleship.
        - Then the "best" ally of the United States declares that it is acquiring weapons from its strategic adversary. And after a categorical ban on doing this, he simply "sends" the former hegemon "in three letters" - and he "wipes himself silently."
        - That striped one - according to his former habit of "climbing wherever he wants and flying, bombing everything and wherever he pleases" - discovers with amazement that a "virtual dome impenetrable to his radar" appears over the military base of his strategic opponent, and his shock tomahawks begin to deviate for no apparent reason and fall in unknown places.
        - Then the striped ones - who previously killed any political leaders with impunity - in response to their next crime - SCREAM the crushing (and pre-announced) retaliation strike against their military base. And their illustrious warriors then toil in the bunkers from the concussion of their star-striped brain.
        - Then the striped ones suddenly start to kneel (!) MASSIVELY in front of ANY African American and endure mass riots with arson and robberies, and at their universities - African Americans can now not take exams, since this is now racial discrimination!
        - Then the striped people all over the country begin to demolish monuments to their national heroes, who suddenly (!) Turn out to be all without exception slave owners ... Who would have thought!
        - Then suddenly in the USA, where there have never been (officially) political prisoners, a huge number of "internal terrorists" are discovered.
        - Then, all of a sudden, in order to "pour fresh blood" into the political leaders of the striped - 73-year-old president is replaced by a 78-year-old ...
        - Then the new president, forgetting not only the name of the Minister of Defense, but also the name of his military department, will PUBLICLY soak such that any CLOWN - stand-up comedian - will die of envy: “I want to thank the minister ... Uh ... former general. Yes, I still call him the general, but now he is my... my... guy who runs this unit there "...
        - so what?
        cool popcorn went ...
        8-)))
        1. Hypertension
          Hypertension 17 January 2022 14: 09
          0
          Quote: tikhonov66
          are adopting a super-duper fighter jet that has over 1000 "critical defects", is hard to fly and costs more than a battleship.

          But that's not true. Now battleships are not being built. And if you take "Iowa" for example, then it cost $ 100 million in the late 40s, early 50s. Adjusted for inflation, that would be about $0.9 billion today. A modern destroyer (Ali Burke) costs $1.8 billion.
    4. Real Pilot
      Real Pilot 15 January 2022 19: 35
      +8
      They are in disarray!
      But geography rules the ball there, just like ours. That is, a temporary disintegration into states is possible - for 20-30 years, as we broke up. And then they will rally together again, through blood and racial rift, ideology or dictatorship - is still unknown. But these events will be associated with the loss of hegemony and the collapse of the economy...
      The USA and the USSR were two poles, almost twin antagonist brothers. And the problems of the United States are almost identical to those of the late USSR, they are simply put aside in time and presented through a different prism... But essentially, we have already passed what they still have to do.
      We are recovering, and they are falling apart. So let's watch and place bets on who will be more lucky.
      1. ose4kinsura
        ose4kinsura 15 January 2022 20: 13
        +5
        We are a food base for them! Goats understand only a club between their ears! Feel sorry for them? Not at all!
      2. stalker 75
        stalker 75 16 January 2022 11: 03
        +6
        Since when has OOO "rf" been recovering? probably with raising the retirement age and increasing population decline? or from the DESTRUCTION of YOUR industry?
        1. tikhonov66
          tikhonov66 17 January 2022 13: 51
          0
          "... or from the DEFEAT OF YOUR industry?
          ..."
          are glitches.
          "...
          It seems that the Russian economy has managed to recover quite quickly from the consequences of the coronavirus crisis, and this fact especially demonstrates the rapid growth of industrial production in recent times. As follows from the data published recently by Rosstat, in May 2021, GDP growth amounted to as much as 11.2% compared to a year ago, that is, May 2020. If we take the results of the first five months of this year, then in comparison with last year's result for the same period of time, although the growth turned out to be more modest, it still amounted to a fairly decent 3.2%.

          Statistics show that growth is due to the non-oil sector

          And most interestingly, the manufacturing industry showed a very noticeable growth, increasing its production by 11.4% from May 2020 to May 2021. This indicator is not much inferior to the growth in the extractive industry, which has risen by 12.3% over the past year. The manufacturing sector also showed an increase in relation to levels before the start of the pandemic - for example, by May 2019, it added 2.9%. As for its specific industries, the production of motor vehicles increased the most (by 71.4%), furniture began to be manufactured by 60.4% more, and finished metal products without equipment and machines - by 44.3%. Producers of textiles (by 26.1%), plastic and rubber products (by 26.8%), as well as leather products (by 27.8%) significantly increased their output. Agricultural production grows by 10% annually
          ..."
          "...
          At the end of 2021, Russia became the world leader in terms of industrial production growth rates.

          Our production growth rates immediately outpaced the Chinese ones, which until recently seemed simply unattainable, but recently the situation has begun to change rapidly.

          And now more.

          Last year, the Russian industry showed the third indicator over the past 20 years in the pace of industrial production in the developed countries of the world.

          Compared to 2020, industrial production in Russia grew by 7,5 percent, which is the best indicator among all developed countries of the world, and by a significant margin.

          The United States was second in terms of industrial production with a growth rate of 5,2 percent.

          At the same time, it is indicative that since 2007 Russian industry has grown by more than 30 percent to date, while in the United States it has declined by almost 2 percent over this period.
          The pace of industrial production in the United States has been stagnant since the sixties of the last century, when the Americans began to transfer their production sites to the Asian region in order to reduce the cost of production.
          ..."
          - LEARN THE MATTER.
    5. SKVichyakow
      SKVichyakow 15 January 2022 20: 44
      +3
      Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5
      We stock up on popcorn and sit comfortably on the couch in front of the TV.

      Our country must help them in this. And the sooner the better for everyone.
    6. Anachoret
      Anachoret 15 January 2022 21: 19
      +6
      Very interesting) this mattress "historian" gave the example of Trump, and called the methods of voting and coming to power, just like Biden))
      There is such an ancient tradition among the mattress Democrats to hang "their dogs" on the Republicans))
      Everything according to Goebbels))
    7. AUL
      AUL 16 January 2022 08: 11
      +6
      Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
      We stock up on popcorn and sit comfortably on the couch in front of the TV.

      Yes, for the last eight years we have been predicting either collapse, or the collapse of the dollar to 11 kopecks, then Yellowstone, then, at worst, the agamad meteorite in Texas. And they sit there and do not itch. They have no conscience, people are waiting here! laughing
      1. tikhonov66
        tikhonov66 17 January 2022 14: 00
        0
        "...
        And they sit there and do not itch. They have no conscience, people are waiting here!
        ..."
        - itchy, itchy... Don't worry.
        "Epidemic of scabies" - in the stars and stripes it develops quite successfully ...
        - The increase in those infected with omicron is OVER A MILLION PER DAY (!!!)
        - White House officials have warned that US citizens may face higher prices and empty store shelves in the pre-Christmas period. It is reported by Reuters.
        Well, they don't really have a conscience...
        what is not there is not...
        ON THAT - IT STANDS and the land of the United States will stand ...
        So far connected... for how long?
  2. carpenter
    carpenter 15 January 2022 18: 34
    +5
    In his opinion, in this case, part of society will not accept such a course of events, and an intra-civil conflict will break out.
    Such an outcome would satisfy many countries, only the author fantasizes, the collapse of the United States is far away. Yes, and the world will begin a squabble, and who will become the "alpha male".
    Although the states are not a gift with their foolishness, but other options will be much worse.
    1. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim 15 January 2022 18: 48
      +8
      In his opinion, such a scenario could happen if the former president of America Donald Trump will run in the next elections in 2024 and as a result of the victory retake the presidency.

      Key phrase of the article. Sleepy Joe is not able to run for the next term, he would have to sit out this one, the Democrats are afraid of Trump, the next horror stories are starting to prevent Trump from taking the presidency, they are already scaring him with a civil war. hi
      1. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 15 January 2022 19: 36
        +6
        Quote: Anatol Klim
        already fearing civil war.

        I remember that before the elections we were scared by the civil war.
        The directors are probably the same.
  3. Thrifty
    Thrifty 15 January 2022 18: 34
    +9
    God forbid that this happens! Otherwise, the whole planet is really good to endure this terrorist state number one on the planet!
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    2. yuriy55
      yuriy55 15 January 2022 19: 04
      +5
      Quote: Thrifty
      God forbid that this happens! Otherwise, the whole planet is really good to endure this terrorist state number one on the planet!

      It's right. Such dominance in the interests of a narrow circle of people in ABSOLUTELY ALL ISSUES begins to strain greatly. I agree, everyone is tired of these American legs on the table, like a long nose in business ...
      Here's the question that worries me the most. How will underdeveloped capitalism of unknown origin suddenly become more attractive to people than the old, established capitalism? request
      Will they agree to change the "awl" to "soap"? repeat
      1. tikhonov66
        tikhonov66 17 January 2022 14: 02
        0
        "... Will they agree to change the "awl" to "soap"?
        ..."
        - Do you think that anyone will ASK?!
        8-))
  4. Orange bigg
    Orange bigg 15 January 2022 18: 37
    +2
    American historian: There is a risk of civil war and the collapse of the United States

    This is called Karma. What you sow is what you reap. And the Americans will reap a lot and for a long time for everything they have done before. From the latter, the stories of Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Afghanistan, Ukraine, the collapse of the USSR and so on and so forth come to mind. ... You won't remember everything at once.
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 15 January 2022 18: 57
      +4
      Quote: OrangeBigg
      This is called Karma.What you sow is what you reap.

      These are called close-sounding words! smile
      What you sow is what reap... And, for what you grab, then shake... laughing
  5. cat Rusich
    cat Rusich 15 January 2022 18: 43
    -4
    It will start with party fights.
    Then, when the capital is destroyed, a war will begin between whites and blacks.
    When whites and blacks weaken, Latinos will declare independence from the rest.
    We, Russia, will need to return Alaska to the Native Harbour.
    good
    1. sportline
      sportline 15 January 2022 19: 08
      0
      A civil war can very quickly begin on an interracial squabble. America for a long time inside itself poisoned first blacks, then Arabs. And there is no end to this.
    2. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 15 January 2022 19: 13
      +11
      You know, this map you gave was compiled by not very competent people. Particularly amused about part of Canada or Canadian influence. New York State alone has a larger population and economy than all of Canada.
    3. Cosm22
      Cosm22 15 January 2022 19: 15
      +5
      Volcano Yellowstone forgot to mention.
      And the imminent collapse of the dollar.
      And how wonderfully dear Russians will heal after that.
      1. Secutor
        Secutor 15 January 2022 19: 55
        -2
        And how wonderfully dear Russians will heal after that.

        As always, we will curse the new ruler of the world, only this time China. Only I think he is not as accommodating as the West.
        1. Fiesta
          Fiesta 15 January 2022 22: 00
          +5
          To prevent this from happening, it is necessary to develop not only the military forces, but also the economy. And in terms of accommodating, the West is also not particularly accommodating when it comes to their interests, so I don’t think there will be a strong difference.
          1. Secutor
            Secutor 16 January 2022 01: 18
            -1
            Right.
            To develop the economy, it is necessary to attract investors, but it is impossible to attract investors while threatening with nuclear weapons. China, at its peak of attracting American and European investors, was generally a sweetie. And already when everything was intertwined, the economy grew, and then he began to download rights, and then very carefully.
            We just started to grow, a little capital went "Ahhh! Let's show the USA and Europe!".
            And it was necessary to quietly do business following the example of the Chinese.
            1. Fiesta
              Fiesta 16 January 2022 14: 10
              +1
              To some extent, I agree, only China, on the contrary, now attracts the most foreign investors and has bypassed even the United States in terms of FDI (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-economy-fdi-idUSKBN29T0TC). The point here, IMHO, is rather in the creation of industries in which they want to invest. If you look, now all kinds of IT companies, semiconductors, renewable sources (especially solar panels), electric cars, etc. are attracting investments the most. Of all this, only software is more or less developed, but for the most part, these companies work only on the Russian or CIS market, which is very limited in size, and therefore not as attractive as some Tencent.
    4. Artemion3
      Artemion3 15 January 2022 19: 26
      -2
      Most likely, Texas will break away with its oil or California.
    5. 16112014nk
      16112014nk 15 January 2022 19: 32
      -5
      Quote: cat Rusich
      Russia will need to return Alaska to the Home Harbor

      And don't forget about the California Peninsula.
    6. Machito
      Machito 15 January 2022 19: 39
      -2
      Quote: cat Rusich
      It will start with party fights.
      Then, when the capital is destroyed, a war will begin between whites and blacks.
      When whites and blacks weaken, Latinos will declare independence from the rest.
      We, Russia, will need to return Alaska to the Native Harbour.
      good

      But what about our San Francisco? Juno and perhaps we will not be forgiven for this.
      1. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich 15 January 2022 20: 22
        0
        Quote: Bearded

        But what about our San Francisco? Juno and perhaps we will not be forgiven for this.
        Our Fort Ros
        yes
    7. Lykases1
      Lykases1 15 January 2022 19: 41
      +5
      What for? That was? We are almost twice the size of the largest state in terms of territory. In some places, the population density is half a person per tens of kilometers. Only the territory on another continent is not enough.
      1. Secutor
        Secutor 15 January 2022 19: 57
        -2
        Only the territory on another continent is not enough.

        In Canada, the same land in bulk. Nobody wants to live in places where -20 in winter. Even in Russia, the tendency to move to the South, Krasnodar and Sochi is already swelling, although salaries there are not even Moscow ones.
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 15 January 2022 20: 09
          0
          In Sochi, in some places, salaries are even very Moscow. The latest trend. Harsh Chelyabinsk men, Sochi is not rubber! wassat drinks
      2. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich 15 January 2022 20: 34
        -3
        Quote: Lykases1
        What for? That was? We are almost twice the size of the largest state in terms of territory. In some places, the population density is half a person per tens of kilometers. Only the territory on another continent is not enough.

        Prudhoe Bay - about 25 billion barrels of oil.
        There is no need to scatter the earth - here Japan "opened its mouth" on only 4 islands of the Kuril ridge ... But you won’t give them away, right??
        So Russian America will come in handy for Russia.
        1. Hypertension
          Hypertension 15 January 2022 20: 57
          +4
          Quote: cat Rusich
          So Russian America will come in handy for Russia.

          Maybe first pull up the demographics, so that there is someone to live in Alaska? Over there - the Siberian cities of Shoigu are unclear who will populate, and you are talking about Alaska ...
          And how to return something? To redeem for money or by force?
          1. tikhonov66
            tikhonov66 17 January 2022 14: 06
            0
            "... Maybe first demographics should be tightened up so that there is someone to live in Alaska
            ..."
            - so Alaska - it is ALREADY with a population!
            And "demography" is out of the question!
            8-))
            1. Hypertension
              Hypertension 17 January 2022 14: 10
              0
              Quote: tikhonov66
              - so Alaska - it is ALREADY with a population!

              Will they want to join Russia? And will Russia leave them payments for the oil they produce? Or, as usual, will bonuses fall into the pockets of Sechin and Miller?
        2. Lykases1
          Lykases1 15 January 2022 21: 06
          0
          Yes, we will not give up the islands. But this territory will need to be protected, somehow developed, but we cannot figure it out at home. And as for oil, it would be cost-effective, it would have already been pumped out
          1. cat Rusich
            cat Rusich 15 January 2022 21: 27
            +2
            Quote: Lykases1
            . And as for oil, it would be cost-effective, it would have already been pumped out
            pumped by 230000 barrels per day - in the 90s they pumped up to 2000000 barrels per day ...
            Plugging in legislative restrictions at the federal level.

            Quote: Lykases1
            . But this territory will need to be protected, somehow developed, but we cannot figure it out at home.
            "Russian power will grow Siberia and the Northern Ocean - M. Lomonosov (just add Russian America...)
            Siberia, after all, needs to be protected and developed ... listen to some liberals, then they don’t need more than an apartment in Moscow.
    8. Fiesta
      Fiesta 15 January 2022 21: 57
      +2
      There will definitely not be territories under the "influence of Canada and Mexico", because they do not have enough military power and economy to capture even these bits. With all due respect, the same Canada is a typical rentier state with a weak industry that the United States has - despite all the myths that they say all production was shipped abroad, the United States is in 2nd place in the world (after China, of course) by the size of the industrial base.
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    10. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 15 January 2022 22: 12
      0
      Quote: cat Rusich
      ...... When whites and blacks weaken - Latinos will declare independence from the rest ...... good

      I guess when, and if civil war begins in the USA, then Mexicans will immediately go across the border, profit from something .... At the same time, from countries more southern than Mexico, other Latin Americans will go, go .... What's next, how for a long time? request Different recourse options are possible
  6. Amateur
    Amateur 15 January 2022 18: 43
    +3
    I don’t know about the civil war, but the fact that white Anglo-Saxons, even with Jewish genes, will become a national minority in the United States by 2050 is a completely scientifically based forecast. Well, no one knows how Latin Americans (the majority of the population) will behave together with the Chinese (3-4 population).
  7. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 15 January 2022 18: 43
    +4
    American millionaires against American homeless people! Whom we bet on.
    1. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 15 January 2022 19: 45
      +2
      Quote: tralflot1832
      American millionaires against American homeless people! Whom we bet on.

      On American millionaires buying / recruiting American homeless people in their armies so that they shaggy each other.
  8. dgonni
    dgonni 15 January 2022 18: 48
    +3
    I've been hearing this since the storming of the Capitol.
    However, the law enforcement system of mattresses is really independent.
    And there begins an interesting movement.
    Arrested, such a normal person. Having a trained group to capture the Capitol with the use of weapons.
    Further it will be even more interesting.
    Trump smokes or drinks quietly.
    1. saygon66
      saygon66 15 January 2022 22: 38
      0
      -Which one is in Florida?
    2. bk0010
      bk0010 16 January 2022 00: 07
      0
      Quote: dgonni
      I've been hearing this since the storming of the Capitol.
      There was no "storming the Capitol", there was an attempt by voters to meet with their senators on an urgent matter. It was brutally suppressed, and the senators meanly fled from the voters.
    3. tikhonov66
      tikhonov66 17 January 2022 14: 19
      0
      "...However, the law enforcement system of mattresses is really independent.
      ..."
      - Is she independent?
      From whom is she independent?
      8-))
      - just as the Democrats let go of the "rein" - so did EVERYTHING - all the independence of that "system" immediately ended. And BLM - let's go "occupy the cities" ...

      These days will not cease slaaava
      will never fade -
      BLM squads
      occupied the city-ro-yes!

      And it seems to me that there is still a purchase cheaper than 1000 bucks
      - YOU MAY NOT PAY.
      Well, that is, CRIMINALLY such "non-payment" is not punishable.

      I took it and went. Here it is BLM-sky "freedom".
      Almost communism.
      8-))
  9. samarin1969
    samarin1969 15 January 2022 18: 52
    +3
    It's time to open the rubric - "Yellowstone".
    When something threatens the United States, their elite does not stand on ceremony. It is necessary to transplant all ethnic Japanese - easy!
    Even the national debt is a headache for all peoples and states.
    The only problem is a possible conflict between the white elite and diasporas. The "melting pot" no longer digests everyone. Modern Americans are no more like the Yankees than the Italians are like the Romans. But this ethnic iceberg is far from being overturned.
    1. Secutor
      Secutor 15 January 2022 19: 59
      +2
      This topic is so old, since the days of the USSR. Only there they added that capitalism is about to ... about to ... die, and with it the United States and the entire West.
  10. TatarinSSSR
    TatarinSSSR 15 January 2022 18: 52
    -5
    Wet dreams ... Although, if now the special services and intelligence of Russia quit their business of masterfully mastering the budget, protection and promotion of sons to warm places and start fueling unrest and provoking confrontation in the United States itself, then everything can very well be ...
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 15 January 2022 19: 14
      -1
      It is necessary to work and not shine with crusts))))
    2. ser-pov
      ser-pov 15 January 2022 19: 34
      0
      Excuse me, you come from the special services, why do you all say so? Or are you OBS?
  11. yuriy55
    yuriy55 15 January 2022 18: 52
    +4
    American historian: There is a risk of civil war and the collapse of the United States

    And the bike about the last American president is no longer “rolling”?
  12. Egoza
    Egoza 15 January 2022 18: 53
    0
    due to conflict between different sections of society, there is a risk of civil war and the collapse of the United States. In this case, the United States will forever cease to exist in its usual form.

    Good luck to the citizens of the United States in this good cause!
  13. sergo1914
    sergo1914 15 January 2022 18: 55
    -2
    Are our local historians sleeping? Or has Shpakovsky already sat down on the topic? Where are the articles? How will Penza and the teaching of the history of the CPSU be tied to the Civil War in the USA?
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 15 January 2022 19: 13
      -3
      And what did Shpakovsky displease you with. IMHO, a person, although sometimes with quirks, conveys the essence correctly. The bell towers are different for everyone, and the more you know, the more you see the deeper and further than a person with three classes of a parish school differs from a person with a special education for this and interests further than reading memes from the Internet.
  14. ultra
    ultra 15 January 2022 18: 55
    0
    Personally, I have nothing against such a development of events.
  15. CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 15 January 2022 18: 56
    +2
    Trump has a good chance of being re-elected, so his opponents in the United States will accuse him of all sins, including the collapse of the country, and this article is no exception, in America the election race begins after the election)
    1. tikhonov66
      tikhonov66 17 January 2022 14: 21
      0
      "... America's election race begins after the election
      ..."
      - then it's already a POST election race
      8-))
  16. Emergency
    Emergency 15 January 2022 18: 57
    -1
    For some, it may be a risk, but for a large number of the inhabitants of the planet there is hope.
  17. evgen1221
    evgen1221 15 January 2022 19: 07
    0
    Amer simply described how the can became president. Trump is uncontrollable for the Amer political beau monde, they are afraid of this, because they are afraid of how to cut something, and they are afraid of ref. Hence the attacks and defamation with opttheosis (elections). And their legal system is built on case law, which means that if the donya or someone else uncontrolled and not from the usual swamp wants to go, then now they can follow in the footsteps of the can. Accordingly, this article, as a seed-Houston, we have a problem. In the near future, we should expect legislative measures to counteract the passage to power of politicians who are objectionable to the usual party of politicians for the presidency. This is the essence of the article.
  18. rocket757
    rocket757 15 January 2022 19: 08
    +2
    American historian: There is a risk of civil war and the collapse of the United States
    . It is doubtful ... until some action brings obvious, large preferences, nothing happens ....
    To whom and what preferences does the division of a single, strong state bring, when its success is built precisely on military force, overwhelming most of the rest ???
    Yes, and the dollar system is supported in the same way ... although there are obvious problems with it.
    1. cniza
      cniza 15 January 2022 21: 04
      +3
      No matter how much we doubt, but the probability is possible ...
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 15 January 2022 22: 25
        +3
        Quote: cniza
        No matter how much we doubt, but the probability is possible ...
        Texas would start to separate, or something.
    2. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 15 January 2022 22: 22
      +3
      Greetings Victor hi I still hope it happens. They got some experience of civil strife, street conflicts, robberies. I hope someone wants to repeat.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 16 January 2022 07: 42
        +2
        Ok, most of the world would look with "tenderness" at such a show!!!
        So, the top one, it didn’t give up, it’s NOT FAVORABLE ... that's just the factor of ripe chance, it cannot be ruled out.
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 16 January 2022 12: 10
          +2
          Good morning! Victor! I wrote there above, I think, the first to rob there! , in this case, the Mexicans would have flooded! Both the poorest and the rest. Well, other Latin Americans would pull themselves up. Remember how they went from distant countries with children to cross the border. In hope of a better life.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 16 January 2022 12: 15
            +2
            Hi Dmitry soldier
            You can fantasize about anything, but the reality is that there is very far from a genuine apocalypse ....
            The country is large, inert, it can flutter for a long time.
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 16 January 2022 12: 22
              +1
              it’s hard to get your bearings now, but in 2014 in St. Petersburg, in 2015, Congresses were held in the MSC. Whom? They were called differently. Who wrote ---separatists. Someone wrote --- nationalists. As for St. Petersburg, I know that, among other things, there was a US delegation there. Our side invited and paid for all the delegations' travel and accommodation, I forgot which hotel. They wrote about it.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 16 January 2022 12: 42
                +2
                Congresses can be held as long as you like ..... before there were true leaders of the masses who, with fiery speeches, raised these masses to great achievements!!!
                Now who are they??? Party functionaries who, just like different congresses, love to broadcast from an armored car or on their own armored train to dangle along the fronts and do business ..... there are none like that now. That's the whole story!
                1. Reptiloid
                  Reptiloid 16 January 2022 12: 57
                  +1
                  I hope they will appear even now, not functionaries, but ideological ones ..... Before the February Revolution there were bourgeois like-minded people. Before the October ----, like-minded people of the Socialist Revolution.
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 16 January 2022 13: 49
                    +2
                    Philosophers and classics, as they say, for the appearance of passionaries, certain circumstances must arise, a certain state of the environment.
                    Now, some kind of general mess, what good can come of it?
                    1. Reptiloid
                      Reptiloid 16 January 2022 14: 48
                      0
                      Quote: rocket757
                      ...... for the appearance of passionaries, there must be .... circumstances, a certain state of the environment. Now .. total mess .

                      For this, many people tried in the 90s in our country and continue now. What would not be the concentration of the proletariat, as before in the factories.
                      About other countries, migrants were also called for this
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 16 January 2022 18: 32
                        +1
                        Well, yes, disunity, diversity of languages, diversity of enthusiasm ... there are too many "delicious" things around, people's heads are filled with a thirst for acquisition ....
                        This is an amorphous mass, in order to raise it to something significant, it would be necessary that it would become very bad, for very many people.
                        Any otre / B / those are collected for cookies .... they are not for creation, they are only suitable for destruction.
                      2. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 16 January 2022 20: 11
                        +1
                        Quote: rocket757
                        ..... This is an amorphous mass, in order to raise it .... what would become very bad, for many people .....

                        Everything is done so that this mass does not rise. For example, after the Revolution, revolutionary poets came to enterprises and read poetry. There were revolutionary artists, architects ---- posters, sculptures .... And now who is addressing the youth? You know yourself, Victor. And who to those who are older? You also know .... Just for negative negative degradation of this mass
                      3. rocket757
                        rocket757 16 January 2022 20: 46
                        +1
                        Quote: Reptiloid
                        Everything is done so that this mass does not rise

                        Bread and circuses ... The essence does not change, the variety of goodies has increased.
  19. Tank jacket
    Tank jacket 15 January 2022 19: 20
    -5
    I don’t know about the USA, but Europe will definitely fall apart ...
    -----
    The new government of Germany briskly got down to business, managed to turn off 8 nuclear power plants from December 3, promised to increase prices for beef by 8 times, and for milk by 4 times, banned Nord Stream 2 and fannedly disconnects Berlin districts from electricity. 90000 households without heat supply and hot water.

    It will all end like in Kazakhstan, with the only difference that Putin will not come to suppress popular unrest.
    1. dauria
      dauria 15 January 2022 19: 44
      +2
      It will all end like in Kazakhstan

      Do not make me laugh. Normal old capitalist systems have a well-established "feedback" mechanism. Trade unions with lawyers, strikes. Even the Finns are on strike. Try to take away the usual cup of coffee from the burgher, not to mention more.
      A wife's friend (teacher) visited Philadelphia for an "exchange of wisdom". For a month or two planned strikes teachers on the command of the upper trade unions. Just like that, no requirements. Kind of like a fire drill. laughing A friend arrived freaked out "The load is scanty, the salaries are huge and they are also on strike"
      1. Tank jacket
        Tank jacket 15 January 2022 23: 32
        +2
        You can laugh, there will be strikes. Look at the Anticovid rallies all over Europe. Further, as an option, Muslims will get Ukrainian Kalash from the basements of mosques.
  20. Pavel57
    Pavel57 15 January 2022 19: 20
    -3
    If the power elite decides to destroy the United States, then the country will find a way.
  21. Artemion3
    Artemion3 15 January 2022 19: 21
    +5
    America is made up of Democratic and Republican states. Large cities are almost all democratic, the provinces are republican. Oddly enough, they exist together. Each state has its own laws, regardless of the center. The difference in taxes is also significant. Because of this, the population is mobile, and if someone is not satisfied with local laws, they change the state and that's it.
  22. Old Horseradish
    Old Horseradish 15 January 2022 19: 24
    +6
    They're just about to fall apart and we fell apart a long time ago. And not just once. That in 17, that in 91. And we are sitting under Gref, Chubais, Kudrin. Oh, I also forgot Bill Geys and his big top booth. called WHO.
    1. tikhonov66
      tikhonov66 17 January 2022 14: 25
      -1
      "...They're just about to fall apart and we fell apart a long time ago.
      ..."
      - so that’s what we’re talking about - that it’s TIME for them too ...
      8-))
  23. Wedmak
    Wedmak 15 January 2022 19: 42
    +1
    Even if, with the destruction of the United States, the world economy collapses, and there will be another crisis .... for me it will be a HOLIDAY when the United States begins to fall apart. For a long time, painfully, right in the Middle Ages... I will sit at the TV and tick off the catastrophes for all that they have done in their short history. That's what you want to say, how you want to object, but this is my opinion.
  24. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 15 January 2022 19: 47
    -2
    Well, there is a risk that in the parallel world, the fascists who won WW2 will invent some kind of infernal machine and conquer our dimension. Or, for example, that Covid-19 will mutate and turn us all into clown-like zombies. Let's face it - Donald was ALREADY in power. He sat there for a long time - then he was "pushed" by "Sleepy Joe". And he moved up. When you are in power, you have all the leverage to do what you WANT to do. When not in power, there are fewer levers. Now Trump is not in power - and the United States is still the first (or second in terms of GDP PPP) economy of the planet - and we are discussing a situation similar in probability to those with which I started this post.
    1. isv000
      isv000 15 January 2022 20: 54
      0
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      Well, there is a risk that in the parallel world, the fascists who won BB2 will invent some kind of infernal machine and conquer our dimension.

      This is what got you... belay
    2. poquello
      poquello 15 January 2022 21: 15
      -1
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      Let's face it - Donald was ALREADY in power. He sat there for a long time - then he was "pushed" by "Sleepy Joe". And he moved up. When you are in power, you have all the leverage to do what you WANT to do.

      Was it all literally before our eyes, with dill or something?
      After the election, Trump was surrounded with care so that he did not dare to fart without knowing it, and in the elections they were impudently shod with numerous violations of freedoms and laws, and the Democrats are afraid that after harassing the Trumpists and accusing the protesting Trumpists of terrorism, they will repay them with their votes, and if they if people join out of a sense of injustice, then postal fraud may no longer help
    3. tikhonov66
      tikhonov66 17 January 2022 14: 28
      -1
      "...Well, there is a risk that in the parallel world, the fascists who won BB2 will invent some infernal machine and conquer our dimension.
      ..."
      - some other "measurement" - a ruler or something?
      8-))
  25. Maks1995
    Maks1995 15 January 2022 19: 49
    +7
    Ah, this is another anonymous meme like "the dollar is about to collapse" performed by a lone Amer. (non-ordinals are also found there, and quite a few...)

    So far, there have been 3 similar statements by our media recently, and they all ended in zilch:
    mexican march
    Negro performances
    Trump election...

    So far, alas, with popcorn you can read many of the news of our media ...
    1. Pandiurin
      Pandiurin 15 January 2022 21: 19
      -1
      Quote: Max1995
      Ah, this is another anonymous meme like "the dollar is about to collapse" performed by a lone Amer. (non-ordinals are also found there, and quite a few...)

      So far, there have been 3 similar statements by our media recently, and they all ended in zilch:
      mexican march
      Negro performances
      Trump election...

      So far, alas, with popcorn you can read many of the news of our media ...


      Not enough rising prices, falling living standards.
      There is already a confrontation in society between different groups.
      The trigger point could be the turmoil over the election results.
      1. poquello
        poquello 15 January 2022 23: 02
        +1
        Quote: Pandiurin
        Not enough rising prices, falling living standards.

        what? ))))))))))))))
        https://inosmi.ru/politic/20211216/251135822.html
        "Used car prices are up more than 30% in the past year. Beef prices are up 21%. Crude oil is up 55%, standard lumber is up 35%, wheat is up 37%, sugar is up 33%, corn is up by 39%, palm oil by 43% Do you drink coffee in the morning? Hmm, that's a pity. Over the past year, the price of coffee has increased by 108%. Do you like cereal for breakfast? Well, sorry, oats have risen in price by 114% ."
        "An apartment in a small area of ​​Redlands used to cost $800 a month. We only recently noticed that the price has risen to $2600."
        "Come on, Joe Biden, tell us again that inflation is seven percent. Read us some more government data."
        Tucker Carlson
        1. Pandiurin
          Pandiurin 15 January 2022 23: 51
          +2
          Quote: poquello
          Quote: Pandiurin
          Not enough rising prices, falling living standards.

          what? ))))))))))))))
          https://inosmi.ru/politic/20211216/251135822.html
          "Used car prices are up more than 30% in the past year. Beef prices are up 21%. Crude oil is up 55%, standard lumber is up 35%, wheat is up 37%, sugar is up 33%, corn is up by 39%, palm oil by 43% Do you drink coffee in the morning? Hmm, that's a pity. Over the past year, the price of coffee has increased by 108%. Do you like cereal for breakfast? Well, sorry, oats have risen in price by 114% ."
          "An apartment in a small area of ​​Redlands used to cost $800 a month. We only recently noticed that the price has risen to $2600."
          "Come on, Joe Biden, tell us again that inflation is seven percent. Read us some more government data."
          Tucker Carlson


          You are absolutely right, this factor did not exist in the last elections, but now it does.
          By the upcoming mid-term elections, inflation will show up even more. There is consumer inflation, prices in the store and industrial. The consumer sector lags behind the industrial one, which is now estimated at 25-30%

          In short, by the new elections, inflation will manifest itself in all its glory, the readership will sip it to the fullest. All kinds of payments are being curtailed now, it's too hard. The elections will be difficult for the Democrats, there will be massive falsifications, and accordingly there will be many dissatisfied. People will be dissatisfied with their lives and the right choices are their hope to change the situation for the better. Now imagine that the Democrats stole the elections from them, by manipulation and falsification. Not one person will lose, Trump, as in the last election, but the Republicans, i.e. the whole party. Trump was silenced, denied access through the media, and banned from Twitter. Will it be possible to shut up the whole party, which will start shouting everywhere that the elections have been stolen?
          1. poquello
            poquello 16 January 2022 01: 03
            +1
            Quote: Pandiurin
            Trump was silenced, denied access through the media, and banned from Twitter. Will it be possible to shut up the whole party, which will start shouting everywhere that the elections have been stolen?

            so in the last Democrats stole the elections and nothing - they shut up, somehow the American voter, if globally, missed the first rake
            1. Pandiurin
              Pandiurin 16 January 2022 01: 58
              +2
              Quote: poquello
              Quote: Pandiurin
              Trump was silenced, denied access through the media, and banned from Twitter. Will it be possible to shut up the whole party, which will start shouting everywhere that the elections have been stolen?

              so in the last Democrats stole the elections and nothing - they shut up, somehow the American voter, if globally, missed the first rake


              Trump, he somehow got out of the traditional politicians who made a career within the system. He came from outside, was alien even within the "native" Republican Party. Too harsh, he did not even suit many of his fellow party members.
              Throughout his term, he was poured with mud, and successfully, the Republicans did not protect him especially from attacks and defamation, Trump became toxic and marginal.

              Now it is possible that the entire Republican Party will be thrown out in the elections, and even more likely that after the Democrats set new standards for the successful conduct of democratic elections, both parties will rig completely, on a scale like never before.
              All this will come out, and the best defense is an attack, both parties will start blaming each other.
              There was no significant drop in living standards during the presidential elections, the problems were explained by covid, there were benefits, the Democrats promised to increase them.

              Now the situation will be more difficult. Inflation is accelerating and the effect of it is accumulating.

              For Republicans, the situation is:
              Trump, of course, is marginal, but the Democrats stole one election, and this will be the second stolen election, as long as you can endure.
              The standard of living has fallen dramatically for all Americans, there is no hope that the Democrats will cope with the crisis.
              Therefore, people will massively go against the Democrats.
              If the speeches in Washington are dispersed very harshly, then the buzz in the states will continue.

              The situation is very different from what it was in the presidential elections.
              1. tikhonov66
                tikhonov66 17 January 2022 15: 37
                +2
                ... so in the last Democrats stole the elections and nothing - they shut it up ...
                ..."
                - If you steal a bun in a store, you will go to jail, and if you steal an election, you will become the President of the United States ...
                - that's what REAL FREEDOM does!
                8-)))
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    2. tikhonov66
      tikhonov66 17 January 2022 14: 30
      -1
      "...
      So far, there have been 3 similar statements by our media recently, and they all ended in zilch:
      mexican march
      Negro performances
      Trump election...
      ..."
      - You don't relax there.
      Buy weapons... yes, more, more! Don't relax.
      - will come in handy soon.
  26. lot
    lot 15 January 2022 20: 05
    -7
    That's nice to hear. A nice addition to our Red Lines. let them tremble.
  27. Dizel200
    Dizel200 15 January 2022 20: 17
    -1
    Our specialists need to work in this direction, help them establish democracy
  28. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 15 January 2022 20: 22
    +1
    In my opinion, in the United States, even without elections, inside the country, society is divided and the situation is tense to the limit. Elections, however, will only strengthen these internal contradictions and it is quite possible that the state will collapse. They live too long without revolutions and civil war. We snickered. And who, in this case, will pick up corrupt girls like all sorts of Ukrainians, Moldovans and the like? This brothel should now be looking for another sponsor. If these states of everyday prostitution find their own kind, a philanthropist, the conditions of detention will be much stricter, they will even be protected, banned or attracted to all sorts of subbotniks, Independence is an expensive thing and not every people can afford. )))
  29. isv000
    isv000 15 January 2022 20: 50
    -3
    American historian: There is a risk of civil war and the collapse of the United States

    Burn-burn-clear that would not go out!
  30. cniza
    cniza 15 January 2022 21: 04
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    After all, the split of society in this country can lead to an explosion of violence that could engulf all of America.


    He writes the obvious...
  31. Gato
    Gato 15 January 2022 21: 20
    +4
    Any country must have a potential adversary. To keep in good shape or balance other potential opponents. Are you sure that China is our friend forever?
    1. tikhonov66
      tikhonov66 17 January 2022 14: 32
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      "... Are you sure that China is our friend forever?
      ..."
      - I'm sure there are elderberries in the garden,
      and in Kiev - UNCLE.
      - Urrryayayay!
      8-)))
  32. fa2998
    fa2998 15 January 2022 21: 25
    +3
    How many times have the United States, the dollar, and in general "decaying capitalism" been buried.!! There is nothing more to write about? Probably a "bread topic", and there are no problems with publishing. "will come, and everything in a circle! tongue hi
    1. tikhonov66
      tikhonov66 17 January 2022 14: 36
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      "... I think the United States will easily outlive all such authors, and then a new tribe of "denunciators" will come, and everything is in a circle
      ..."
      - Yes, EVERYTHING is possible - it will "go in circles" ...
      But not the US national debt... The US national debt-it is simply DOOMED to ETERNAL GROWTH.
      eight-))))
      - From-such-from "obvious incredible" ...
      8-))
      1. fa2998
        fa2998 17 January 2022 17: 31
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        What's the difference? The whole world is ready to JOY sell their goods and services and receive green papers. Envy? Probably Nabiullina is all green with envy? hi hi
  33. Lunic
    Lunic 15 January 2022 21: 36
    +1
    Why would "several states" refuse to vote? The citizens of the states themselves will not allow it. If, say, the governor of some Oklahoma passes a law prohibiting voting, he will be immediately demolished from his post. This is no joke here. The problem of the possible collapse of the United States lies elsewhere: 1. no one here believes the big media anymore. The media is changing shoes on the go about the pandemic and support for the Democrats. Everyone sees that the media is lying.
    2. More than half of the population is dissatisfied with the results of past elections and the actions of the current government. This is also fueled by some governors. Republicans. The failure of Biden's laws (more precisely, the OSHA order) on the mandatory vaccination of workers in campaigns with 100 or more employees, as well as the stalling of the adoption of the trillion-dollar Build Back Better law, only reduce its rating (33% now). Also, out of control inflation, disruption of supply chains of goods, rising prices for automobile fuel and natural gas, uncontrolled immigration, all this negatively affects the ratings of people's support for the current government.
    Biden and his team showed their almost complete incompetence in running the country. Even his supporters are turning their backs on him now and the mainstream media is starting to sling mud at him. All this reminds me of the late USSR, when the contradictions and greed of the leaders of the republics practically tore the country apart. Greetings to the Belovezhskaya Treaty!
    1. tikhonov66
      tikhonov66 17 January 2022 14: 39
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      "...
      Biden and his team showed their almost complete incompetence in running the country. Even his supporters are turning their backs on him now and the mainstream media are starting to sling mud at him. All this reminds me of the late USSR, when the contradictions and greed of the leaders of the republics practically tore the country apart.
      ..."
      - VEGNOY DOGOGOY GO, COMRADES !!!
      The main thing is not to turn.
      Stock up on weapons - yes, more, more ...
      8-)
      1. Lunic
        Lunic 17 January 2022 19: 32
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        why what and we have enough weapons. the main thing is that it was enough for the spirit to use it when it gets hot.
  34. Tusv
    Tusv 15 January 2022 21: 55
    +1
    Not well From Jane Psaki, even a blonde will not disguise herself. Dumbness seeps hard
  35. Diverter
    Diverter 15 January 2022 21: 56
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    If Donald Ivanovich will participate in the race, then we will all feel bad. This article is for internal consumption of mattresses. Start preparing ahead of time.
    But if nevertheless
    The United States will forever cease to exist in its usual form
    , then it will cause nothing but joy for many.
    Again, the Chinese will remain without money and the main sales market. Another plus.
    so the faster the better.
  36. -Paul-
    -Paul- 15 January 2022 22: 40
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    Oh come on?! Has something happened?! Do you have to buy tickets for the performance, or just bring your own popcorn?
  37. 75 Sergey
    75 Sergey 15 January 2022 22: 40
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    Dreams Dreams!
    Is the percentage 1 to a trillion?
  38. pexotinec
    pexotinec 15 January 2022 23: 08
    +3
    Yes, how much can you ruin the states laughing . And they don't fall apart.
    1. tikhonov66
      tikhonov66 17 January 2022 14: 41
      0
      "...But they don't all fall apart.
      ..."
      - as the experience of the USSR showed - everything will happen SUDDENLY.
  39. bk0010
    bk0010 16 January 2022 00: 02
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    In his opinion, in this case, part of society will not accept such a course of events, and an intra-civil conflict will break out.
    This part (Negroes and SV-shniks) do not make up a very large percentage of the population and are not very useful, in case they start a riot, nothing prevents the Rednecks and other Republicans from simply cutting them out.
  40. Gardener91
    Gardener91 16 January 2022 00: 03
    -1
    If the United States specifically smells of civil war, let's say the first blood is shed, and there are millions of weapons on hand and the situation is completely out of control, then the way out for the ruling clans may be the most unexpected - the third world war. And who needs it, except for themselves and the rallying of their own, rebellious masses?
  41. romandostalo
    romandostalo 16 January 2022 00: 36
    +1
    Well, what can I say? I bless.....
  42. Hazarov
    Hazarov 16 January 2022 01: 13
    -2
    Nonsense! The excuse is rotten!
    Reality is much scarier and simpler at the same time!
    Previously, the US base rate was 15%, but now it is 0%
    The US economy has nowhere to fall!
    Now the collapse, it's a disaster! When the US collapses, it will break like glass on stone! No pillow at 15%! Not only the United States does not have it, but the entire West! And if there is only a civil war, then we can say that the West and the United States got off with a slight fright!
  43. Dikson
    Dikson 16 January 2022 06: 57
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    No one will let Trump into the White House .. They will crash like JFK if it doesn’t work out by simple means .. They weren’t afraid to stir up a topic with BLM .. to kick him in .. and this is almost a Civil War .. So the article is nothing. Yes, and the current South easily piles on the Northerners .. - in the south, people are still simpler ..)
  44. riwas
    riwas 16 January 2022 08: 10
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    American historian: There is a risk of civil war and the collapse of the United States

    The United States parasitizes on other countries, growing external debt, printing, including non-cash, dollars. And for the dissatisfied, the US has military power. Deprive them of this feeder today and America will fall tomorrow. China can do it, but it is not yet clear for Russia which will be worse: Chinese leadership or the US. At least Russia should use this confrontation for its own purposes.
  45. Illanatol
    Illanatol 16 January 2022 09: 08
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    Quote: RealPilot
    They are in disarray!
    But geography rules the ball there, just like ours. That is, a temporary disintegration into states is possible - for 20-30 years, as we broke up. And then they will rally together again, through blood and racial rift, ideology or dictatorship - is still unknown. But these events will be associated with the loss of hegemony and the collapse of the economy...
    The USA and the USSR were two poles, almost twin antagonist brothers.


    The ball is still ruled not by geography.
    If the United States ceases to exist as a single state, then they will never gather in their former composition.
    Some states will want to remain independent, others may be swallowed up by their neighbors Canada and Mexico.

    The analogy with our country is not correct, given the specifics of the formation of the American nation. America is sometimes called a "melting pot", but in fact it is only a salad, the ingredients of which can be quite divided, and not at all a strong alloy. The real melting pot is Russia.
  46. Illanatol
    Illanatol 16 January 2022 09: 12
    +1
    Quote: bk0010
    This part (Negroes and SV-shniks) do not make up a very large percentage of the population and are not very useful, in case they start a riot, nothing prevents the Rednecks and other Republicans from simply cutting them out.


    Supporters of the Republicans, the so-called. "vasps" have already become a minority.
    And the bulk of the elite is not on their side.
    In the US, not just youth gangs, there are real bandit armies, numbering in the tens of thousands, consisting of Hispanics and blacks. If it blazes, there will be a lot of blood.
  47. Illanatol
    Illanatol 16 January 2022 09: 15
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    Quote: Gato
    Any country must have a potential adversary. To keep in good shape or balance other potential opponents. Are you sure that China is our friend forever?


    China is neither a friend nor an enemy. He is our neighbour. Objectively, both we and the Chinese are interested in good relations. There will be bad relations between us - problems for both sides. Conflict between us will only benefit others. Smart people understand this.
  48. rotfuks
    rotfuks 16 January 2022 10: 02
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    In general, the US elections are very strange. When they win by a very small margin and gain votes using loopholes in American law.
  49. rotfuks
    rotfuks 16 January 2022 11: 33
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    It must be admitted that there is a risk of the collapse of the United States. By historical standards, the United States is generally a country without history and without a past. The US has only been around for 300 years. What is 300 years against the background of Greece, which has been known for several millennia? What is 300 years against the background of millennial China? What is 300 years against the background of thousand-year-old Persia?
  50. p0pulivox
    p0pulivox 16 January 2022 12: 06
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    Very funny! Before the especially gifted ultrapowermen had time to finish the division of the Republic of Kazakhstan according to recent events, they set about the United States, this time based on quotations from the article. No, of course there is a risk of the collapse of the United States, but even in the medium term it is very small. What is there to discuss?
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    2. tikhonov66
      tikhonov66 17 January 2022 15: 29
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      "...
      No, of course there is a risk of the collapse of the United States, but even in the medium term it is very small. What is there to discuss?!
      ..."
      - like-it's "what to discuss?!"
      There is always something to discuss.
      Well, for example - it is possible (and necessary) - to discuss the degree of "smallness", well, or, as physical mathematicians say, "the order of smallness" of the probability of the "disintegration of the USA" ...
      8-)))
      - But this is if we take into account the fact that, strictly speaking - for a SINGLE event (such as the collapse of the USA) - the concept of its probability is NOT (!) DEFINITELY (that is, for a single event - the concept of probability - simply NO 8-) - as, for example, there is NO width, no length, no mass - for such a concept as a "mathematical point" ...
      eight-))))
      - and this is materiel.