White House: Russian attempts to deploy forces in Latin America will lead to decisive US action

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The United States is ready to give Russia a "strong answer" in the event of the deployment of Russian forces in Latin America. Jake Sullivan, National Security Adviser to the President of the United States

The United States summed up the results of three meetings with Russia that took place in recent days. The final briefing was held at the White House, and Biden's national security adviser Sullivan spoke at it, answering a number of questions regarding the negotiations. As follows from the transcript of the briefing, Sullivan was asked about the actions of the United States in case Russia takes steps to deploy its forces on the territory of Latin American countries. The answer of the adviser to the American president was not original, he promised to deal with Russia in a "decisive manner."



If Russia moves in this direction, we will deal with this decisively.

- Sullivan stated, without explaining what he means by these words.

Sullivan also paid attention to Ukraine, saying that Washington has levers of pressure on Moscow and they will be activated in the event of an escalation of the conflict. According to the adviser, Russia can invade Ukraine for any reason, such as sabotage or an attempted coup.

In his speech, Sullivan referred to US intelligence data that allegedly received information about Russia's preparations for an invasion under various pretexts that Moscow is "trying to fabricate." However, he admitted that the United States has no data on the invasion in the near future. He promised to announce the final "scenario" of the Russian invasion in the near future.

Our intelligence community is processing information that Russia is working to fabricate a pretext for an invasion, including sabotage and information operations, accusing Ukraine of preparing an attack on Russian forces in eastern Ukraine

- he said.

Recall that on the eve of Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said that Russia's negotiations with the United States and NATO have reached an impasse, the Americans do not want to discuss issues of guarantees of Russia's security. Answering a question about the possibility of deploying Russian forces in Latin America, in particular Venezuela or Cuba, Ryabkov neither confirmed nor denied such a possibility.
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  1. +63
    14 January 2022 07: 35
    Oh! turns out to have stepped on a pet peeve? But this is just one of the options! But what if the Russian Federation begins to arm and equip Argentina, and she wants the Falklands back? Will NATO and the US fit in with petty Britain? Are they ready to scatter resources and, in which case, die for these stones so dear to the heart of every Argentinean in the ocean? And this is just one of the answers. How are things going with the Panama Canal? what about Nicaragua? And what will the real Indian Maduro say for trying to remove him with the help of guaido? How are the world's democracies in Africa doing? But won’t all the striped stability crawl if Russia and China put their hands on all the sore points?
    1. nnm
      +42
      14 January 2022 08: 17
      So that's great! Let them lead to decisive action! Then the United States and the entire collective West will have no counterarguments to Russia's claims that Ukraine is a territory of security for Russia. This is exactly how the United States should be provoked. And now we are being dragged into the war in Ukraine in order to portray Russia as an aggressor. Let them try on this skin and shut up.
      1. -26
        14 January 2022 08: 28
        All this leaves only a step before the war, talkers.
        1. +59
          14 January 2022 08: 53
          And the war is less than one step away! We are being asked to remove the troops from our territory! There is nowhere to retreat from NATO, we are already surrounded inside our home, it would be time to start defending this home.
          1. -3
            14 January 2022 11: 22
            Quote: seregatara1969
            And the war is less than one step away! We are being asked to remove the troops from our territory! There is nowhere to retreat from NATO, we are already surrounded inside our home, it would be time to start defending this home.

            Why are we hysterical? This has been happening all the last years, but has it just dawned on you? Who offered to retreat? They will write, and they themselves believe ... fool
            1. +2
              14 January 2022 18: 35
              Quote: Cheshire
              Quote: seregatara1969
              And the war is less than one step away! We are being asked to remove the troops from our territory! There is nowhere to retreat from NATO, we are already surrounded inside our home, it would be time to start defending this home.

              Why are we hysterical? This has been happening all the last years, but has it just dawned on you? Who offered to retreat? They will write, and they themselves believe ... fool


              Hysteria here you.
              And besides, you don’t know how to conduct a dialogue here, but in the bazaar you would have succeeded laughing laughing
              1. +2
                15 January 2022 21: 13
                These Americans are interesting ... They approve of the brazen attack on their neighbors. But, it turns out, not only ITS borders! Against what strongly against! lol
              2. 0
                17 January 2022 09: 19
                Totally agree
        2. +6
          14 January 2022 12: 49
          Do you propose to remove the troops from your territory and wipe yourself off?
          1. +3
            14 January 2022 13: 09
            Quote: Stas 2REP
            Do you propose to remove the troops from your territory and wipe yourself off?

            In which place? You must be able to read, even if you can't write correctly...
            1. +1
              14 January 2022 18: 44
              Quote: Cheshire
              Quote: Stas 2REP
              Do you propose to remove the troops from your territory and wipe yourself off?

              In which place? You must be able to read, even if you can't write correctly...


              It seems that everyone owes you something. laughing
              A quarrelsome little man laughing
        3. +2
          15 January 2022 12: 54
          nostalgia for EBN-mustache to give and lie back.
        4. +1
          15 January 2022 14: 03
          Quote: Cheshire
          All this leaves only a step before the war, talkers.

          In connection with the shorts, this does not amount to anything. Negotiations will begin immediately.
          1. 0
            15 January 2022 18: 22
            Quote: SKVichyakow
            Quote: Cheshire
            All this leaves only a step before the war, talkers.

            In connection with the shorts, this does not amount to anything. Negotiations will begin immediately.

            Please explain hi
            1. +1
              15 January 2022 20: 46
              Quote: Cheshire
              Quote: SKVichyakow
              Quote: Cheshire
              All this leaves only a step before the war, talkers.

              In connection with the shorts, this does not amount to anything. Negotiations will begin immediately.

              Please explain hi

              When they feel a real threat to their existence, they are ready for any negotiations, and they themselves are pushing for them.
              1. 0
                16 January 2022 11: 19
                Undoubtedly, yes, but this is no reason to get used to the war. It feels like you're one of the few here who is real. Most prance on the sofas and eager to fight. Yes
      2. lot
        -24
        14 January 2022 08: 43
        What an interesting conversation you have! as if you are a colleague or working together. and even the same age. laughing
        It is impossible not to like it.
        1. lot
          0
          15 January 2022 10: 27
          how many angry minuses to me! for what? I caught two trolls. living two in one. showed everyone and on you. damn, listen.
          1. 0
            16 January 2022 11: 21
            Quote: lot
            I caught two trolls. living two in one.

            Apparently, you caught live bait, they did not spare you ... laughing
            It's time to get used to the fact that sarcasm is not understood here. At all. hi
      3. +17
        14 January 2022 08: 44
        Quote: nnm
        now we are being drawn into the war in Ukraine to portray Russia as an aggressor
        According to the adviser, Russia can invade Ukraine, coming up with any reason for this, such as sabotage or attempting a coup d'état.

        Does he have a brain, this Sullivan?
        So, in the meantime, take and tell the whole world about the favorite methods of US work in international politics.

        There was no one there to ask him a question: "My dear, could you list the countries where Russia (USSR) staged a coup d'etat at least in the last 50 years. And where Russia (USSR) staged a provocation with the aim of either a direct invasion, or, again , coup ".

        But with regards to the United States, the list is so huge (and that, and another) that it is impossible to list without a cheat sheet. Anything, let’s overlook ...
        1. -22
          14 January 2022 09: 05
          A crib on the table, my dear!
          1. +6
            14 January 2022 11: 54
            Quote: aleks neym_2
            A crib on the table, my dear!

            Is one Gulf of Tonkin not enough for you? Google to the rescue.
            1. -3
              14 January 2022 12: 02
              Your crib is needed for what used to "read out the entire list of" do write something you can skip. And "minusatorov" with humor ... chew and put in his mouth ...
        2. -27
          14 January 2022 09: 17
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          There was no one there to ask him a question: "My dear, could you list the countries where Russia (USSR) staged a coup d'etat at least in the last 50 years. And where Russia (USSR) staged a provocation with the aim of either a direct invasion, or, again , coup ".

          You are a little confusing the briefing in the database with the propaganda shows of the first channel.
          1. +11
            14 January 2022 11: 57
            Quote: Ashes of Klaas
            You are a little confusing the briefing in the database with the propaganda shows of the first channel.

            The tube at the United Nations, the Gulf of Tonkin, the Arab Spring, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, the Maidan in Ukraine - it is a show of the First channel? Well, a fig yourself in our channel! Do not channel, and Kanalische!
            1. -8
              14 January 2022 12: 16
              Quote: Zoldat_A
              A test tube at the UN, the Gulf of Tonkin, the Arab Spring, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, Maidan in Ukraine - is this a Channel One show?

              no, I said that it is desirable for you to see the crazy mor ... sorry, the face of Skabeeva at a briefing in the database. Why the Gulf of Tonkin?
              1. +8
                14 January 2022 12: 20
                Quote: Ashes of Klaas
                What does the Gulf of Tonkin have to do with it?

                Given that the conversation at the briefing was not about Skabeeva, but about the fact that Russia "routinely arranges provocations." Is the incident in the Gulf of Tonkin not a provocation? A suicidal attack by the mad Viet Cong? I haven't said anything about the Twin Towers yet ...
                1. -8
                  14 January 2022 14: 32
                  Quote: Zoldat_A
                  Despite the fact that the conversation at the briefing was not about Skabeeva

                  yeah, but here's this fiery speech:
                  Quote: Zoldat_A
                  "My dear, could you list the countries where Russia (USSR) staged a coup d'état at least in the last 50 years. And where Russia (USSR) staged a provocation with the aim of either a direct invasion, or, again, a coup d'etat."

                  would be just right for her. Well, or Simonyan, since Skabeeva hardly speaks English.
              2. +5
                14 January 2022 13: 28
                Quote: Ashes of Klaas
                insane mor ... sorry, the face of Skabeeva.
                It's enough for me to look at the pretty faces. Gordon, Zalensky, Poroshenko, Biden, Boris Johnson .. reptilians of the Rothschilds and Soros and the face of Olga Skabeeva
                becomes the face of an innocent holy righteous woman.
                1. +3
                  14 January 2022 13: 34
                  Quote: 30 vis
                  It's enough for me to look at the pretty faces. Gordon, Zalensky, Poroshenko, Biden, Boris Johnson .. Rothschild and Soros reptilians and a face

                  Without gays and Jews, your portrait series suffers from some kind of incomplete artistic design and aesthetic taste.
                  1. 0
                    14 January 2022 13: 52
                    Quote: Liam
                    Quote: 30 vis
                    It's enough for me to look at the pretty faces. Gordon, Zelensky, Poroshenko, Biden, Boris Johnson .. Rothschild and Soros reptilians and a face

                    Without gays and Jews, your portrait series suffers from some kind of incomplete artistic design and aesthetic taste.

                    And that there are no gays and Jews? Can they be built in height?
                    1. 0
                      15 January 2022 13: 16
                      And that there are no gays and Jews? Can they be built in height?

                      Bravo!
                      Neighing!!!)))
                  2. -1
                    14 January 2022 17: 49
                    Quote: Liam
                    faces. Gordon, Zalensky, Poroshenko, Biden, Boris Johnson .. Rothschild and Soros reptilians

                    Moreover, among these wonderful people there is not a single non-Jew. And at least half of the gays ... Milyata.
              3. -3
                14 January 2022 14: 26
                see a mad pestilence ... sorry, Skabeeva's face

                Yes, it's not crazier than Gal Gadot)))
                1. +1
                  14 January 2022 18: 45
                  Quote: lucul
                  Yes, it's not crazier than Gal Gadot)))

                  who's that? An Israeli TV talk show host?
        3. -14
          14 January 2022 10: 12
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          There was no one there to ask him a question: "My dear, could you list the countries where Russia (USSR) staged a coup d'etat at least in the last 50 years. And where Russia (USSR) staged a provocation with the aim of either a direct invasion, or, again , coup ".

          Are there any countries where Russia could reach out and not suppress the revolutionary movements in Europe? Since Nicholas 1st, how many times has Russia sent in troops to suppress uprisings? It got to the point that K. Marx said that progress, in principle, is not compatible with the Russians, because one of the signs of the new time will be the absence of the Russian nation. It seems to me that this was not a grateful thing under the tsars, under the general secretaries. How will history evaluate Russia's actions in Kazakhstan? Wait and see.
          1. +6
            14 January 2022 11: 36
            Quote: MyVrach
            How will history assess Russia's actions in Kazakhstan? Wait and see.

            A naive person ... As they write, they will appreciate it. The only question is who will write this story.
            1. 0
              14 January 2022 15: 59
              Quote: Letun
              A naive person ... As they write, they will appreciate it. The only question is who will write this story.

              Yeah. History is written by the winners. For the past two hundred years, they have written like this, but in this case it will be different. good Do you know what? I do not mind at all, I will only be for it. But my naivety bordering on stupidity doubts.
          2. +2
            14 January 2022 16: 48
            Since Nicholas 1st, how many times has Russia sent in troops to suppress uprisings?

            Actually, exactly ONCE. Hungary (at that time a former colony of the Austrian Empire) - in 1848-1849. And, in fact, that's all.
            At the same time, the same Russian Empire:
            - prevented the restoration of an absolute (despotic, "autocratic") monarchy in France in 1812, forcing the existence of the Constitution and Parliament to be confirmed;
            - supported the uprising in Greece, which liberated the country from the brutal tyranny of the Turkish sultans - in 1828-1829;
            - restored the autonomy of Serbia, freeing the people of this country from the suffocating tyranny of the same Turkish sultans - at about the same time;
            - liberated Bulgaria from the tyranny of the Turkish sultans - in 1877.
            1. -3
              14 January 2022 17: 30
              Quote: Terran Ghost
              Actually, exactly ONCE. Hungary (at that time a former colony of the Austrian Empire) - in 1848-1849. And, in fact, that's all.

              So I wanted to mislead you all. forgive me please, I will not do this anymore. feel
            2. +2
              14 January 2022 18: 56
              Quote: Terran Ghost
              Hungary (at that time a former colony of the Austrian Empire)

              Hungary - the colony the two-pronged monarchy of Austria-Hungary ...
              Yeah, what can you not recognize in VO ... you would at least choose the expressions more correctly, eh ...
              1. 0
                17 January 2022 09: 21
                Hungary is a colony of the dual monarchy of Austria-Hungary.

                It all depends on which year we are looking at the situation. For 1848-1849, that's exactly how - Hungary is in fact a colony of the Austrian Empire.
                The dual Austro-Hungarian Empire appeared a little later - in 1867 as a result of the national liberation movement in Hungary and perhaps a little more as a result of the lost Austro-Prussian war of 1866.
        4. +8
          14 January 2022 10: 25
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          There was no one there to ask him a question: "My dear, could you list the countries where Russia (USSR) staged a coup d'etat at least in the last 50 years. And where Russia (USSR) staged a provocation with the aim of either a direct invasion, or, again , coup ".

          But with regards to the United States, the list is so huge (and that, and another) that it is impossible to list without a cheat sheet. Anything, let’s overlook ...

          Well, something else. In their opinion, they brought "democracy and prosperity" everywhere, and Russia can bring order and stability, which is very dangerous for "democracy".
          1. 0
            14 January 2022 11: 36
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            Well, something else. In their opinion, they brought "democracy and prosperity" everywhere, and Russia can bring order and stability, which is very dangerous for "democracy".

            Not in defense of these "uncles", but the truth for - what kind of 73 states and 26 million killed? The last 30-40 years, this is approximately from the 80s of the last century. I do not argue that US officials have blood on their hands up to the elbows, but the numbers shown in the picture are too high.
            1. 0
              14 January 2022 11: 51
              Quote: Hyperion
              Not in defense of these "uncles", but the truth for - what kind of 73 states and 26 million killed? The last 30-40 years, this is approximately from the 80s of the last century. I do not argue that US officials have blood on their hands up to the elbows, but the numbers shown in the picture are too high.

              Something (in part of 73 countries) is here - https://skeptimist.livejournal.com/1370218.html
              And from the visual, here

              I believe in the accounting and hit those countries where the United States organized the coups and other Arab vosny.
              1. +2
                14 January 2022 12: 07
                Quote: Nyrobsky
                Something (in part of 73 countries) is here - https://skeptimist.livejournal.com/1370218.html

                That's it, that "something" ... It just says: "Since 1945, they have destroyed 73 states and are responsible for the deaths of 26 million people. This is a horror film."
                Which countries? What was 26 million counted? You just have to believe? And what is not 100 countries and 50 million to be sure?
                And why by reference - from 45, and in the picture with the presidents - "over the past 30-40 years"?
                Your second picture shows 48 countries, some of which are repeated more than once. Afghanistan - 4 times. Guatemala - 3. Should this be counted as different countries? Okay. Where are 25 more countries?
                I repeat: I do not want to whitewash the United States in any way, but the figures taken from the ceiling, such a thing ...
                1. -3
                  14 January 2022 12: 16
                  Quote: Hyperion
                  That's it, that "something" ... It just says: "Since 1945, they have destroyed 73 states and are responsible for the deaths of 26 million people. This is a horror film."

                  And the destruction, for example, of Ukraine - will we count? And what they did with Russia in the 90s - is it in the statistics? The report, after all, is not only about provocations, it also accuses Russia of coup d'état. Like, this is a familiar tactic of Russia.
                  1. -2
                    14 January 2022 12: 25
                    Quote: Zoldat_A
                    And the destruction of, for example, Ukraine - shall we count?

                    And they invaded and bombed there? And the accounting was carried out, how many died in the same Ukraine from the actions of the United States, and how much due to their own stupidity? And the destruction of Russia in the 90s - what is the fault of the Americans, and what is the local conditional Chubais, Yeltsins and Gaidars?
                    1. -2
                      14 January 2022 12: 41
                      Quote: Hyperion
                      Were they invaded and bombed?

                      Why did you all run into me? Defenders, damn it, of the true light of democracy in dark Mordor. The article was not about the "bombs". The article was about sabotage and coup d'état. Ukraine, the USSR - this is not a coup d'état organized by the CIA, is it? And it leads to the destruction of the country. No carpet bombing.
                      1. 0
                        14 January 2022 12: 51
                        Quote: Zoldat_A
                        Why did you all run into me?

                        Did I fly? It was you who flew into our dialogue with Nyrobsky.
                        Quote: Zoldat_A
                        Defenders, damn it, of the true light of democracy in dark Mordor.

                        Twice I wrote that I did not defend the United States. Few?
                        Nyrobsky had a picture about bombings and murders. with specific numbers. So I was curious - where these numbers come from.
                      2. -1
                        14 January 2022 14: 38
                        Quote: Hyperion
                        It was you who flew into our dialogue with Nyrobsky.

                        I guess that's the end of the conversation.
                      3. -1
                        14 January 2022 14: 58
                        Quote: Zoldat_A
                        I guess that's the end of the conversation.

                        So I had a question for Nyrobsky. I didn't contact you. You can check the arrows who is to whom and why. So how could I "hit" you?
                    2. -1
                      14 January 2022 22: 46
                      Go repent, Vasya) Then the Exceptional will think about whether to let you polish their shoes.
                      1. +1
                        15 January 2022 14: 21
                        Quote: KJIETyc
                        The exceptional ones will then consider whether to let you shine their shoes.

                        Do you recommend from personal experience? Go get a job already, sickly.
                      2. -3
                        15 January 2022 14: 57
                        No, Vasya, I have a sense of dignity and self-respect, like your gentlemen Americans. Unlike you, Tabaki)
                      3. 0
                        15 January 2022 16: 14
                        Made me laugh. What dignity do you have there? You, without understanding the essence of my comments, vividly demonstrate the absence of this very dignity, as well as bad manners, rudeness and low intelligence. Dignity and self-respect do not grow on such rotten soil.
                  2. -6
                    14 January 2022 15: 31
                    what they did to Russia in the 90s

                    Again, another "howl" about the "scary-creepy-terrible" 1990s. Of course, for the purpose of slanderous anti-American hysteria, denial of human rights and freedoms, and a filthy apology for "autocracy and the whip." Nothing new. And from this already honestly, has long been sick.
                    Who are these "they" then? Former members of the party nomenclature of the CPSU, of whom the first members of the government of the Russian Federation consisted? And to ask the "military lobby" of the times of the USSR, which by the exorbitant inflation of military expenditures and the share of the military-industrial complex in the economy of the USSR led the country first to poverty, and then to the complete collapse of this very economy?
                2. +1
                  14 January 2022 14: 04
                  Quote: Hyperion

                  That's it, that "something" ... It just says: "Since 1945, they have destroyed 73 states and are responsible for the deaths of 26 million people. This is a horror film."
                  Which countries? What was 26 million counted? You just have to believe? And what is not 100 countries and 50 million to be sure?

                  As I understand it, faith does not allow you to recognize the bloodthirstiness of the "hegemon". Well, then I will help you with one more link, since there is a more complete list of conflicts and wars organized by the United States. Filter out what you don't need.

                  https://201day.wordpress.com/2017/06/08/перечень-войн-развязанных-сша-за-свою/

                  By the way, back in 2009 (13 years ago!) Gaddafi spoke from the UN rostrum at the General Assembly about 65 wars unleashed since the creation of this organization, which were waged in the interests of the United States.
                  1. +2
                    14 January 2022 15: 35
                    Quote: Nyrobsky
                    As I understand it, your faith does not allow you to recognize the bloodthirstiness of the "hegemon".

                    As it does not allow, if I 2 (two) times, noted in the comments:
                    Quote: Hyperion
                    I do not argue that the leaders of the United States have their hands up to the elbows in blood

                    Quote: Nyrobsky
                    I repeat: I do not want to whitewash the United States in any way, but the figures taken from the ceiling, such a thing ...

                    Quote: Nyrobsky
                    What you don't need you will filter out yourself.

                    There filter and filter ...
                    The list begins in 1622, when the United States as a state did not yet exist. This is a "merit" of Great Britain.
                    Quote: Nyrobsky
                    here is a more complete list of conflicts and wars organized by the United States

                    In the full list since 80, 60 conflicts and other actions are listed. Of them:
                    1980-1990 - military aid to Iraq. A million dead in ten years. This is how the USSR also helped Iraq with weapons. Arms sales are a global business. The USA is selling, Russia is selling ...
                    Also, such moments as:
                    1980 - support and financing of the Khmer Rouge.
                    1980 - Operation Gladio in Italy
                    1988 - Destruction of an Iranian passenger plane.
                    1989 - Two Libyan aircraft shot down.
                    1990 - the naval blockade of Iraq.
                    1990 - financing of the Bulgarian opposition ($ 1,5 million)
                    2003 - clashes with Syrian border guards.
                    2008 - War in South Ossetia.
                    -destruction of the state is difficult to call. For what states were destroyed in this case?
                    Once again, I will write - on the conscience of the US government in bulk blood, but the numbers of 73 "destroyed states" and 26 million killed over the past 30-40 years are not clear where they came from. How all this was calculated, you should ask the one whose picture you posted.
                    1. 0
                      14 January 2022 16: 40
                      1990 - financing of the Bulgarian opposition ($ 1,5 million)

                      And where does this list of military incursions and bombings (artillery, missile or air-bombing)?
                      1. +2
                        14 January 2022 16: 43
                        Quote: Terran Ghost
                        And where does this list of military incursions and bombing

                        This is from the list at the link to the full list of conflicts and wars.
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                1. -1
                  16 January 2022 04: 13
                  Koreans then offended you?
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                    1. -2
                      17 January 2022 11: 23
                      And it was Kim Jong-un who offended his own people with gross and grave violations of human rights

                      Koreans don't even know about it. Here's the problem.
                      They need to be saved. Bring them Democracy and Freedom along with human rights on the wings of a Boeing B-52 Stratofortress.

                      And preferably sooner.
                      1. -1
                        17 January 2022 11: 52
                        Koreans don't even know about it.

                        What are they, the inhabitants of Sev. Korea "don't know"? That they are subjected to daily cruel oppression, cruel mass torture and executions? That they are being starved for the exorbitant appetites of the aggressive North Korean military? Alas, they know this from their own experience.
                        Now, about the coercion to observe the fundamental rights and freedoms of a person by grossly violating their essences by military means ... in especially difficult cases, such actions, alas, are justified. As a last resort. This is called "humanitarian intervention". The most striking example, in my opinion, of "humanitarian intervention" is the destruction by Vietnam in 1978-1979 of the rotten and tyrannical government of the so-called. "Khmer Rouge" in Cambodia and their leader - a geek, scum and mass murderer half a sweat. Then the Socialist Republic of Vietnam issued and carried out on behalf of progressive humanity a just sentence against Pol Pot, his government and "state security".
        5. 0
          14 January 2022 16: 25
          Almost the entire "world camp of socialism" appeared thanks to and with significant help from the USSR, they taught "ardent fighters" against capitalism, supported, trained, directly provided assistance with money and not only. So much has been written and shown about this, so many witnesses and participants, that it is even ridiculous to discuss it.
          The Americans (and not only) where they could and how they could struggle with this - the methods were also so-so ...
          And then R. Reagan came and quickly stopped all this.
          1. 0
            14 January 2022 19: 13
            Quote: sash-sash
            And then R. Reagan came and quickly stopped all this.

            Reagan has nothing to do with the word "absolutely". Let me remind you - Reagan was still under Brezhnev, in 1981 he came. And the collapse of the USSR began in 1986, with the advent of the Hunchback Dog. If not for him, but for the Sverdlovsk Alcoholic who continued his work, what the hell would all the Reagans put together do to us. So that
            Then the Humpback Dog came, pleasing the West in everything - and everything stopped.


            And Hitler, by the way, had good watercolors. But in Vienna they did not accept him to study, and the world received not an interesting artist A. Schicklgruber, but a product of evil A. Hitler.
            I mean that our country may have lost the noble combine operator M. Gorbachev, but acquired the Humpback Dog. It would be better to travel around the Kuban on a combine, and not around Reykjavik ...
            1. 0
              15 January 2022 09: 10
              And all the gnomes for Disney (with whom, by the way, Hitler was friends) were also painted by Hitler Remember Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
            2. 0
              16 January 2022 18: 57
              In the Brezhnev era, the USSR bought more grain than it sold. Fortunately, oil prices allowed. And when they fell, hello cards, hello queues and shortages, and goodbye to the USSR.
              And "brought down" the oil of comrade. Reagan.
              You do not know the history of your country well - most likely you did not live then.
              1. 0
                16 January 2022 19: 44
                Quote: sash-sash
                You do not know the history of your country well - most likely you did not live then.

                Yes, where can I go... I didn’t teach the history of my country from Ukrainian textbooks. There was no time - in the store I stood in line with a coupon for sausage, although I am only 17 years old. Probably some phantom memories of what it cost 2,20. Himself, at the age of 17, how do you know?

                For the future, about age. A sure sign - whoever writes without errors, correctly punctuates and uses "-tsya" and "-tsya" correctly - he obviously graduated from school back in the Soviet Union.
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                  17 January 2022 14: 46
                  I am 62 ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
        6. 0
          15 January 2022 12: 56
          This is called a quote "...CREW RECORD...", one well-known politician.
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      4. +2
        14 January 2022 09: 59
        Quote: nnm
        So that's great! Let them lead to decisive action! Then the United States and the entire collective West will have no counterarguments to Russia's claims that Ukraine is a territory of security for Russia. This is exactly how the United States should be provoked. And now we are being dragged into the war in Ukraine in order to portray Russia as an aggressor. Let them try on this skin and shut up.

        The fact that this is exactly what should be done with them has long been known, but who will do it with us? We only strictly observe world laws. And I think we should do what they do. Otherwise, we will be constantly thrashed about.
      5. 0
        14 January 2022 19: 14
        Let's do it this way - after all, the United States began precisely for this purpose the expansion of NATO to the East and games with Ukraine in order to create threats for the Russian Federation.
        Threats have been created, but as if they are not very happy about this now?
    2. +8
      14 January 2022 09: 02
      I believe that Russia is simply obliged to support the democratic right of free residents of Alaska, California, the Republic of Lakota, New York,
      Independent Long Island, Republic of Cascadia, Confederate States, Republic of South Carolina, Northern Mexico, Republic of Texas, Second Republic of Vermont, Republic of New Africa, Republic of Hawaii for self-determination.
      1. +3
        14 January 2022 10: 26
        The main thing is to help the independent Texas People's Republic. There is oil.
      2. +2
        14 January 2022 11: 14
        Quote: Saladine
        I believe that Russia is simply obliged to support the democratic right of free residents of Alaska, California, the Republic of Lakota, New York,
        Independent Long Island, Republic of Cascadia, Confederate States, Republic of South Carolina, Northern Mexico, Republic of Texas, Second Republic of Vermont, Republic of New Africa, Republic of Hawaii for self-determination.

        I agree with you. Or rather, with your slogans. True slogans do nothing. We do not have the ability, like the Americans, to create color revolutions and chaos. We are here compared to them, like a pioneer - a loser against a professor
    3. +2
      14 January 2022 09: 16
      Quote: vervolk
      But what if the Russian Federation begins to arm and equip Argentina, and she wants the Falklands back?

      An expensive pleasure, very expensive - providing the Argentine army with everything necessary to capture and hold the islands. This requires aviation and navy. Fighters, frigates / corvettes and diesel-electric submarines. How much will it cost Russia? And what in return? How will Argentina pay, whose economy has been in a deep crisis for several decades ... Any investment should pay off, enough to forgive everyone's debts ...

      Quote: vervolk
      Will NATO and the US fit in with petty Britain?

      Even if it does not, how many forces and means will the Argentines need to win this war. The British fleet does not shine, but in comparison with the Argentinean one, this is simply an unattainable result.
      1. +3
        14 January 2022 10: 29
        Quote: Doccor18
        An expensive pleasure, very expensive - providing the Argentine army with everything necessary to capture and hold the islands. This requires aviation and navy. Fighters, frigates / corvettes and diesel-electric submarines. How much will it cost Russia? And what in return? How will Argentina pay, whose economy has been in a deep crisis for several decades ... Any investment should pay off, enough to forgive everyone's debts ...

        I agree. Russia will not agree to this. At one time, at a press conference, journalists asked VVP about their intentions to return the bases to Vietnam and Cuba, to which he replied - "Why? Whom we need, we will get it anyway!"
        1. +2
          14 January 2022 11: 20
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          At one time, at a press conference, journalists asked VVP about their intentions to return the bases to Vietnam and Cuba, to which he replied - "Why? Whom we need, we will get it anyway!"

          Most likely, Putin simply knew that Cuba would send us away with such proposals. As well as Venezuela and Nicaragua. who know the capabilities of the United States and know that tomorrow a bloody coup will take place in their country, and the leadership will follow in the footsteps of Hussein or Gaddafi. Unlike us, the Pindo-stantsy do not chew snot in such cases, but act. And the words of this "partner" that the United States will take action are not scarecrows or shaking the air. Even if the revolution is not muddied, then they can take to hell with any of these countries and no one will help them. Everyone knows about this, therefore, Russia will be denied the placement of its weapons on their territory.
          1. -1
            14 January 2022 11: 26
            Quote: Gritsa
            Most likely, Putin simply knew that Cuba would send us away with such proposals. As well as Venezuela and Nicaragua. who know the capabilities of the United States and know that tomorrow a bloody coup will take place in their country, and the leadership will follow in the footsteps of Hussein or Gaddafi. Unlike us, the Pindo-stantsy do not chew snot in such cases, but act. And the words of this "partner" that the United States will take action are not scarecrows or shaking the air. Even if the revolution is not muddied, then they can take to hell with any of these countries and no one will help them. Everyone knows about this, therefore, Russia will be denied the placement of its weapons on their territory.

            The question is not the possibilities, they are, but the expediency. Firstly, this is really not a cheap pleasure, and secondly, it is far in order to provide effective support to its military contingent, which may become a hostage in the event of hostilities. Russia, in principle, has means of destruction and delivery capable of reaching vulnerable places on the American mainland in order to bring mattresses to life.
          2. 0
            14 January 2022 13: 44
            Quote: Gritsa
            Most likely, Putin simply knew that Cuba would send us away with such proposals.

            Well, I don’t know ... Somehow, rumors and conversations have been leaking somewhere for a year now. Yes, and analyzing some of the facts .. I will say frankly They will not send.
    4. -1
      14 January 2022 09: 25
      And what about the Panama Canal? and what about Nicaragua?
      There is the patrimony of China, and they are not eager to let us go there ...
    5. +2
      14 January 2022 09: 33
      I’ll tell you the topic, what did the Yantar boat do along all the coasts of the USA, a couple of years ago? Did you count fiber optic cables? bully
    6. +4
      14 January 2022 09: 53
      Quote: vervolk
      But what if the Russian Federation begins to arm and equip

      And if everything is even more interesting?
      Here, Colonel Baranets (former Colonel of the General Staff) said that his former colleagues are right now in that same Latin America, namely in Cuba, and are conducting substantive consultations on the return of Russian bases to Liberty Island.
      Let's fantasize?
      About the subject of these consultations?
      Firstly, the resumption of work of the integrated intelligence center in Lourdes.
      Secondly, the deployment of radar reconnaissance and control means, which will put under control the air and outer space over the entire territory of the United States and the North Atlantic. Let's say the ZGRLS and early warning radar of the Voronezh type.
      Third - air defense systems such as S-400, S-500, Buk-M3 and other related equipment. Let's say in the size of a reinforced mixed-type brigade.
      Fourthly - DBK of the "Bastion" and "Ball" types as part of a mixed coastal defense brigade. Moreover, the Bastion DBK, along with the Onyx anti-ship missiles, may also include the Zircon GZUR.
      Fifthly, the reinforced brigade "Iskander-M" with the entire range of BRMD and CRBD, including "Caliber" feel moreover, without any "criminal" because the US INF Treaty was terminated unilaterally and our hands bully unleashed.
      Sixthly, heavy Su-35 fighters (su-57 in the future), attack Su-34Ms, a pair of AWACS A-50U aircraft (we don’t have many of them, but for the sake of a good cause, why not deploy) and .. at least a MiG-31K squadron with a good supply of Kinzhal GZUR.
      In the seventh, 2 - 4 diesel-electric submarines permanently based in Cuba. Let's say Lada.
      Eighth - KRBD "Caliber" and "Caliber-M" in container-type launchers for covert basing.
      And of course a jump airfield for Long-Range Aviation.
      This is in Cuba.
      But there is also Venezuela, with which the deployment of military bases (including the naval base) was agreed several years ago. There may appear a naval base, an air base with the possibility of jumping and basing Long-Range Aviation, the Rubezh IRBM, which is enough to add warheads in order to transfer it from the category of ICBM (6500 km.) to the category of IRBM (5000 - 5500 km.), M "(4500 km.) And of course DBK.
      In Nicaragua, the Nicaraguan Canal project may be resumed (if appropriate) and the need for its protection and cover ... And at the request of the container-based Caliber-M CRBD. And the possibility of basing (temporary / permanent) diesel-electric submarines.
      It is possible to combine our efforts in this field together with China, say, in Nicaragua.
      After that, calmly return Ukraine to the Native Harbor (if this is not done much earlier) and, if the opposite side wishes, to negotiate the withdrawal of American offensive weapons and nuclear weapons from Europe.
      All .

      There are difficulties with this scenario, due to the lack of a capable Fleet in the Russian Federation ... well, this will become an incentive.
      And, by the way, China already has a Fleet ... well, you never know what Chiny people will get into their heads.
      After all, the United States must be made more predictable.
      And less dangerous for planet Earth.

      And the above Latin American countries can be offered membership in the CSTO.
      Syria , Iran and Iraq may also become candidates for this organization .
      1. -3
        14 January 2022 16: 36
        The sheep seems to have survived into old age out of his mind! Under no circumstances should anything be placed in Venezuela! The Americans have long considered this option and are just waiting for an excuse to attack Venezuela! At the first opportunity, both Maduro's army and our contingent will be swept away!
        1. +1
          15 January 2022 02: 19
          Quote: grassyknollgunner
          The sheep seems to have survived into old age out of his mind!

          And Shoigu and Gerasimov?
          A few years ago, the issue of deploying bases in Venezuela was agreed upon, including the naval base and the air force.
          Quote: grassyknollgunner
          At the first opportunity, both Maduro's army and our contingent will be swept away!

          Wouldn't their grinder break? With ours in addition?
          Or the operation "Anadyr" is not an example that there will be many tantrums, but the war (with the Russian Federation!) Is already scary.
          And if the missiles are already deployed?
          Where to attack then? They will start right away.
          Yes, and cover - as anti-aircraft and so on, and then and today will be on top ... Here, recently, a message passed that the Ministry of Defense ordered an additional (!) Couple of DBK brigade complexes. But they know how to "Tsmrkons" too.
          Moreover, missiles ("Zircons", "Caliber", "Iskanders", "Daggers") should go exactly to Cuba (the delegation is just there).
          And in Venezuela there will be a naval base and an operational base for Long-Range Aviation ... And if necessary, then "Frontiers" with "Caliber-M".
          Quote: grassyknollgunner
          The Americans have long calculated this option and are just waiting for a reason to

          And how are we waiting for a reason about Ukraine, Moldova, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Georgia ... We just can’t eat ... And if we feel threatened by the likely NATO membership of Finland and Sweden?
          If such a threat comes from Poland?
          What a wonderful reason to respond mirror.
          Nuclear weapons of the Russian Federation in Latin America, this is a mirror response to US nuclear weapons in Europe and Asia (Turkey).
          The ultimatum was to give Russia a legitimate reason.
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            1. +1
              16 January 2022 05: 59
              Quote from: Loboloco
              Alas, the toys you listed are only piece goods.

              Well, he's not that slick. "Iskander-M" has already deployed 12 brigades, and two more brigades have been ordered. And "Bastions" are deployed in all fleets, and 2 more brigades are ordered. And the Mig-31K is already a regiment + one or two separate squadrons (up to 50 units) and each from 4 to 10 "Daggers".
              "Calibers" are also being produced by the hundreds a year, including for ground-based carriers.
              So what is the piece?
              In "Zircons"?
              So their mass production also began, both for sea and land carriers.
              Quote from: Loboloco
              . So it turns out that Russia is making icebreakers, and we need to focus on them. And do not spray on useless missiles.

              You know what , but Russia's missiles are much better than icebreakers. Although icebreakers are good.
              Quote from: Loboloco
              The legs must be stretched along the clothes.

              The Kremlin boys have long legs, and they prefer to wear clothes according to their figure. Something, but they have enough money. And it will not seem enough - they will abolish the Central Bank, return the Treasury and the State Bank and print as much as necessary. The Russian Federation has the lowest monetization of the economy in the world - 40% of GDP. And the norm is 100%.
              ZRV fellow large, the trade balance is extremely positive, exports are highly liquid. New resources are being opened, new enterprises are being built.
              The ruble (or otherwise, as they call it) will have its own currency zone - the Eurasian +.
              And if the United States wants to kick the Russian Federation out of its settlement system, then in half a year everything will settle down on new settlement systems ... But this will already be "Casus Bailey".
              And a very serious reason, because Washington and London are going to ... rob a nuclear Superpower.
              Quote from: Loboloco
              Now Maduro essentially gave the go-ahead (and in fact he had no choice) to dollarize.

              So what ? In the Russian Federation, all settlements are also in dollars request . He gave the go-ahead - it was a forced matter. And it's always so easy to give up when you've been forced to... feel when an alternative appears ... Eurasian, Chinese, Indian.
              Quote from: Loboloco
              But that in this situation Russia will be able to be present there only for peaceful purposes

              So Russia is there with the most peaceful purposes and is present. bully
              And the World, as you know, must be protected. soldier
              And since the Russians are very kind, our kindness from now on will only be with fists.
              Definitely. hi
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                1. +1
                  22 January 2022 06: 59
                  Quote from: Loboloco
                  Now, if Russia could produce something useful for life.

                  And what is useful for a person to live?
                  Food?
                  So there is no food dependence, except for what kind of exotic. In terms of grain - and in terms of production and exports, the first place in the world. Meat, eggs - also their own, are exported.
                  Clothes?
                  So both the USA and the EU are bringing more and more from China, so we are not ashamed either.
                  Or about smartphones?
                  So they are also more and more from China.
                  Quote from: Loboloco
                  However, the products of murder, and mass murder, are inferior in quality and in quantity, too, to what the NATO bloc produces.

                  Very interested in quality. Just the same funds.
                  How is the US with ICBMs?
                  With strategic bombers?
                  With weapons for them?
                  Is there something close to X-101 \ 102?
                  How is it with air defense?
                  Is there something equivalent to "Iskander-M"?
                  And "Dagger"?

                  What is the age and technical condition of the Ohio-class SSBN?
                  Quote from: Loboloco
                  Russian technologies are hopelessly stuck in the century before last.

                  Is it in the 19th or what? laughing
                  Is there anything equivalent to Rosatom's reactors?
                  Quote from: Loboloco
                  There is no production culture.

                  "Zircon", "Vanguard" turned out from lack of culture?
                  Quote from: Loboloco
                  Labor productivity, which was a third of the US under the USSR, has not grown since then.

                  And if you calculate by PPP? smile And shift to the population ratio?
                  Quote from: Loboloco
                  At the same time, corruption and theft only increased.

                  Corruption is the lubricant of the economy, or is it different in the USA?
                  No, it's just legal. It's called lobbying. They also have full-time lobbyists from corporations sticking out in all the cracks of power.
                  Otherwise, how would such a miracle as "Zumwalt" appear?
                  Quote from: Loboloco
                  Monopoly is on the rise.

                  And this is, but what to do - the costs of the collapse of the United State, breaking the chains of cooperation, closing and liquidating a large number of enterprises and industries in the 90s - 00s.
                  Here was the Ilyushin Design Bureau and Antonov Design Bureau - there was competition.
                  And will be again.
                  Quote from: Loboloco
                  Where will the footage come from?

                  From mom and dad and the education system.

                  But now the time has come for strong fists, and oddly enough, the Russian Federation has them and is not afraid of war in it.
                  So they demanded the withdrawal of foreign troops from Bulgaria and Romania.
                  At the next meeting , apparently , they will demand the withdrawal of foreign troops and bases from Poland , Germany and Italy .
                  And then from Japan and South Korea.
                  And what will you do?
                  To fight?
                  Can you?
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                      23 January 2022 10: 48
                      Quote from: Loboloco
                      You simply do not see the full depth of the crisis.

                      Believe me, I see all this perfectly.
                      Quote from: Loboloco
                      But, it's true, from the line of consumer goods, Russia is not able to produce anything. The maximum is a screwdriver assembly to fuck off.

                      Yes, this is true, but is there a shortage of these goods in the Russian Federation?
                      With a global market for us, with our climate and geography, the cost of such goods will always be higher.
                      Are you ready to pay more for domestic consumer goods?
                      And for the success of the localization of such industries, a sufficiently large and capacious market is needed. Do we have it? After the loss of the union republics, the markets of the countries of the Socialist camp and the CMEA?
                      Not .
                      Under Gorbachev and Yeltsin, we fell in love with all this ......
                      And what fell from the cart, go and return ...
                      But the Russian Federation has a terribly surplus in foreign trade. Last year we bought 3 (THREE!) times less than we sold!
                      And unless at the same time at us deficiency of consumer goods is observed?
                      Or maybe famine in Russia?
                      So no - we confidently hold the first place in the world in grain exports, in meat, eggs, vegetable oil, cheeses - complete self-sufficiency. And horticulture is developing again, and viticulture, and winemaking ...
                      What is missing something?
                      And this despite the fact that not all lands have been returned to crop rotation and the prospects for even purely extensive growth are far from being exhausted, although these lands are not in such a logistically convenient geography and climate zone as Krasnodar, Stavropol, Kuban ...
                      We must do what we can do best. The best reactors and nuclear technologies in the world are being obtained - Rosatom is building them all over the world. Is there oil , gas , coal and a steady demand for them ? So why not use it? Up to 50% of budget revenues from them - coal, gas and oil. That is why the budget is in surplus.
                      Need a deeper redevelopment?
                      Needed. Yes
                      So gas processing plants are being built on the borders of the Immeasurable and at the ends of the pipe. And this is not only the separation of natural gas into more valuable fractions (methane, propane, butane, ethylene), but also the extraction of now so valuable helium on an industrial scale. And oil refining is growing and developing ... and the chemical industry. Moreover, from the basic level - from the primary processing of the resource with an ever-increasing deepening of redistribution.
                      Can you give me a washing machine?
                      So they are assembled in the Russian Federation from spare parts.
                      Or do you want the whole cycle?
                      So this whole cycle must first go through the bottom.
                      And you need to have markets for this, one Russian one is not enough. We need a population, an internal market for at least 250-300 million solvent human souls. And better - 500 million, to be sure.
                      Does the Russian Federation have such?
                      And look, WHO in the world is engaged in the production of this consumer goods, who has achieved greater success?
                      Countries deprived of their own resources. Here they are, having no resources, and churning out consumer goods of their imported raw materials and on imported energy resources.
                      This is what world Capital ordered, so that the manufacturer would be dependent on the supply of raw materials and markets, and resource suppliers - on suppliers of the final product. In order to pass all these flows through itself, removing all the cream and regulating the flows.
                      Quote from: Loboloco
                      And you can’t spread rockets and other crap on bread

                      The Russian Federation annually exports only 2,5 times more food than weapons. bully
                      So there is and will be something to smear on bread.
                      Quote from: Loboloco
                      and you won't get far.

                      Most of the foreign cars on the domestic market are assembled just in Russia, with an increasing degree of localization. Taxes are paid here, the workers there are citizens of the Russian Federation ... What's wrong?
                      What is missing for happiness?
                      Full cycle?
                      And for a full cycle in such industries, a LARGE and CAPACITY market is needed.
                      Do we have one?
                      And here's how it will be, then you can get down to business.
                      Or is unemployment in Russia high?
                      So, too, no - one of the lowest in the world.
                      It is not at all necessary for a blacksmith to weave canvas and sew his own shirt, or to make furniture for his own house. It is enough for him to do his job well and earn enough to get it all.
                      Our blacksmith knows his business and earns enough.
                      Quote from: Loboloco
                      And do you really think that lobbying is the same as corruption?

                      Lobbyism and corruption always go hand in hand. bully
                      That's the nature of things.
                      The one who gives a bribe is a lobbyist.
                      Anyone who takes a bribe is a corrupt official.
                      And in our country - capitalism. request And this evil can be eradicated only by changing the system ... and even then not to the root.
                      It's just that capitalism has its phases:
                      Wild - when officials and nouveau riche have not yet got drunk and do not know the measures.
                      And the established one, when the mafia had already taken shape, the rules of the game, quotas and order of subordination were established.
                      We are now moving from the first phase to the second.
                      Quote from: Loboloco
                      And monopolism, alas, is not a cost, it is a style of governing the country by non-professionals.

                      Lack of professionalism is the scourge of the modern capitalist world. feel
                      Look at the politicians of England wassat , USA belay and other flagships of world capitalism ... Just some kind of freak show.
                      Is it intelligence?
                      Is it professionalism?
                      So why blame Russia with such and such mugs?
                      She learned everything from them. feel
                      But at the same time the lowest external debt.
                      One of the largest gold reserves in the world.
                      Healthy finances.
                      Food Independence.
                      One of the lowest unemployment rates.
                      And developing (unlike the US) infrastructure.
                      Do you really think that this is unprofessional?
                      Although it would be desirable , of course , a lot more .
                      Quote from: Loboloco
                      In this configuration, this Russia will not last long.

                      She held out in the 90s.
                      And pulled over.
                      This year alone, exports have grown by 49%.
                      And it will grow in it. Yes Because the rise in prices for energy resources , metals and foodstuffs had an effect only from the middle of last year , and many deliveries went at the old prices . This year will be even better - prices are high and are not going to fall, and demand is high and stable.

                      So end your "universal cry" and return to Native Harbor, because with the approaching global "bummer", it is Russia that will not only stand, but also flourish and rise.
                      Even with such "unprofessional" guidance.
                      hi
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        15 January 2022 12: 59
        Yes. It costs well. But! Security is always expensive.
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          16 January 2022 06: 39
          Remember that fairy tale about Brer Rabbit?
          "Do whatever you want with me, just don't throw me into that thorn bush"? winked
          Are you sure that "Hell sanctions" are not desired by the Kremlin?
          That it will untie the hands on SUCH ...
          However, let's keep the intrigue, there is very little left before the answer to the Kremlin's Ultimatum.
          And for a hint, a little bit of numbers.
          GDP according to the PPP of the Russian Federation is about $ 4 trillion, and this is with a monetization of the Russian economy of 40%.
          At the rate - 100%.
          And what will be the GDP when monetization is brought to the desired 100%?
          If you pour the missing 60% into the economy?
          And stop the outflow of capital from the Russian Federation, because "Adda Sanctions"?
          That's right, 10 trillion dollars.
          What does that require ?
          sovereign financial system. Yes
          And what is needed for the financial system to become sovereign ? smile
          Right ! "Adda Sanctions".
          "Throw me into the Thorn Bush (Adda Sanctions), that's where I need to be.
          And where to pour in the missing 60% (150% of the existing GDP) Russia will find - to develop Eastern Siberia with the Far East, to build new cities and factories, to strengthen the Army, to lay a real fleet, to lend to small / medium businesses, to develop infrastructure ...
          The Thorn Bush is my home.

          And Taiwan will soon become Chinese Yes . And the Russian Federation has always advocated a United China.
          As well as for United Russia.
          And now Russia is not united, unity is yet to come.
          And it will also increase GDP and places of capital investment.
          And things will get better in Venezuela.
          And in Cuba.

          And in the US, there is a shortage of food in stores feel , just like in Moscow in the summer of 1991.
          And the blacks are chasing the police ... they are robbing stores ... in the Army, flight overalls are sewn for pregnant pilots ... hegemon ...
    7. 0
      14 January 2022 20: 46
      Quote: vervolk
      But what if the Russian Federation begins to arm and equip Argentina, and she wants the Falklands back?

      What is the benefit of Russia in this?
      1. 0
        15 January 2022 02: 31
        Quote: Lara Croft
        What is the benefit of Russia in this?

        The arms trade has always been good business.
        And in the event of the defeat of England in the Flocklands, drive Albion away from Antarctica (it is the possession of the Falklands that gives her the right to claim).
        Yes, just "out of harm".
        It’s not all the same for them to roll up color revolutions, it’s time to pay Good for evil.
        Or, as my old comrade used to say - "Not all cattle have Shrove Tuesday."
    8. 0
      15 January 2022 20: 46
      That's it, the Nicaraguan canal that China and Russia have gathered is building - Russia in anyway you have to send troops there and build air and naval bases there! Under this case, Russian nuclear weapons will nest there - instead of a pistol at Uncle Sam's temple. That's the only way people in the States start taking you seriously...
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  2. +28
    14 January 2022 07: 38
    Well, the Americans are talking about our base in Latin America. This can be considered a good signal. soldier
    1. +8
      14 January 2022 07: 47
      the lease of the island for 50 sq km and FSE took place.
      and the Poseidons will simply lie 35 km from Norfolk and San Diego.

      ..............................................
      1. 0
        14 January 2022 13: 46
        Quote: antivirus
        the lease of the island for 50 sq km and FSE took place.
        and the Poseidons will simply lie 35 km from Norfolk and San Diego.

        ..............................................

        And what does someone say that they do not lie there? There is no such information either. bully
        1. -2
          14 January 2022 16: 32
          Americans find them, photograph them and show them to the whole world...
          The Seabed Treaty or the Seabed Arms Control Treaty is a multilateral agreement concluded between the United States, the USSR, Great Britain and 91 other countries[1] to ban the deployment of nuclear weapons or weapons of mass destruction on the ocean floor beyond 22 km (12 nautical miles) from the coast. Signatory countries have the right to monitor other signatory countries to monitor the implementation of the treaty. The Seabed Treaty, as well as the Antarctic Treaty, the Outer Space Treaty and the Nuclear Free Zone Treaties, was designed to prevent the emergence of new international conflicts and the entry of at least some nuclear weapons into their zone.

          The treaty consists of 11 articles. The main provision is a complete ban on the installation and placement on the bottom of the seas and oceans, as well as in their subsoil beyond 22 km (12 nautical miles) of the coastal zone, any types of weapons of mass destruction, all structures, launchers and other devices for storage, testing or use of such weapons. The parties to the treaty are prohibited from assisting, encouraging or inducing any state to carry out such actions; within the framework of the system of verification, any participant can check the performance of the treaty by another country-participant. The country has the right to withdraw from the treaty, subject to 3 months' notice of all its other participants and the UN Security Council, however, the participants are also obliged to negotiate to prevent an arms race at the bottom of the seas and oceans.

          On December 7, 1970, the treaty was approved at the 25th session of the UN General Assembly, and on February 11, 1971, it was opened for signature simultaneously in Washington, London and Moscow. On May 18, 1972, the treaty entered into force after it was ratified by 25 countries, including the United States, Great Britain and the USSR. As of October 2018, 94 countries have become parties to the treaty

          Want a REAL arms race?
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            14 January 2022 17: 39
            see who benefits and who is less beneficial breaking such an agreement and -ors.

            ..........................................
            ABM treaty merged by partners
            our economic centers are far from the coasts
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          3. -1
            14 January 2022 17: 55
            Quote: sash-sash
            Americans find them, photograph them and show them to the whole world...

            By God, you’re funny ... The Americans show washing powder in test tubes ... Photographers ... Yes, I don’t care what’s in the omerig .. Let them get out of Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova, Romania and the Baltic states ... They collected the clothes and yankee go home.
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              1. 0
                16 January 2022 08: 41
                Quote from: Loboloco
                You will not tell the local governments from your sofa with whom to conclude agreements?

                Me not . My country will indicate, and not from the couch. Something you all got alarmed ... What do you need to worry about in your Israel? Sit quietly. Knesset , Shabbat , dates , matzah .. Dances , shmantsy .. Why are you excited ? The United States dumps three billion every year, there are Rothschilds with Schmotschilds, and even ten percent of Jews, Jews from all over the world will be thrown. Dance yourself seven forty and do not shine.
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            2. 0
              16 January 2022 18: 31
              You don’t care, yes ... but there is no Russian engineering (which still remains). And the food industry is not. And the aircraft industry, too - no. And much more
              1. 0
                16 January 2022 19: 07
                Can't you speak Russian clearly? Meaningful?
    2. +1
      14 January 2022 08: 20
      Quote: Mikhail Sidorov
      Well, the Americans are talking about our base in Latin America.
      "Yes, and the bride is all in pimples, it means that she is ripe." feel (Vysotsky) Only you need not bases, but weapons. Including Mexico and the islands, Haiti for example.
  3. +21
    14 January 2022 07: 39
    After Sullivan's words, Russia can do the same with NATO bases.
  4. +16
    14 January 2022 07: 43
    Yes, on principle, return to Cuba and gain a foothold normally in Venezuela. There are, as it were, preliminary moves. And let them get used to the idea that they are not the only ones in the world who can approach the borders.
    1. +4
      14 January 2022 08: 21
      Quote: Sibiryak 66
      Yes, on principle to return to Cuba

      Have you clarified this issue with the Cubans?
      Sorry of course.
      You’ll leave your wife.
      So you first return to her, and then return to the Cubans
      1. +12
        14 January 2022 09: 01
        Do you want this?
      2. +1
        14 January 2022 10: 37
        Quote: Alexey Sommer
        Have you clarified this issue with the Cubans?

        Yes And right now - a military delegation (from the General Staff) is in Cuba. Just the coordination of all the moments about returning to their native bases.
        Was it in vain that Cuba was written off debts of 30+ billion?
        Yes, and it's time to rearm the Cuban Army. And it will work out somehow at the expense of rent.
        And trade.
        ... And what Cuban woman can resist the temptation to get acquainted with a brave Russian marine or a rocket scientist? bully soldier love
        Quote: Gardamir
        Is someone waiting in Venezuela and Cuba?

        Yes ARE WAITING . bully
        1. 0
          14 January 2022 20: 08
          God, what's easier America lifts all sanctions from Cuba Tomorrow half of Cuba is in Florida, and the other half is waiting for tourists Fuck our rockets and chickens on coupons
          1. 0
            15 January 2022 02: 56
            Quote: Sergey Nikiforov
            God, what's easier America removes all sanctions from Cuba

            How easy it is for you. For 60 years they have not been removed, but today they will be removed?
            And why doesn't hunger stop with the return of our bases?
            There is eternal summer. Investors from Russia will come, they will build poultry farms there Yes and the coupons will disappear immediately.
            And if boarding houses with sanatoriums are built? Do they organize tours?
            Is it not possible for our middle class to burn their money in Egypt?
            ... Military sanatoriums in Cuba - to improve health after service in the Arctic bully - beauty .
            Quote: yuriy55
            Do you want this?
      3. +1
        14 January 2022 11: 23
        Quote: Alexey Sommer
        Have you clarified this issue with the Cubans?

        Strange question) Did Lewis Carroll clarify anything with the Mad Hatter? It's just a figment of an inflamed imagination) Welcome to the world of fantasy and the creak of patriotic sofas. Do you remember the cockroach races in the VO after the Chinese were thrown in about the "construction of the Nicaraguan canal"? What started here! Well, this is from the same opera - around the meaningless passage phrase from the briefing, bases, and Poseidons, and Argentine weapons, and for some S-400 goblin in Cuba ... By the end of the day, I believe, they will agree to "Buzova - the President of the United States after the change of sex." Well, or something like that laughing
        1. 0
          15 January 2022 03: 32
          Quote: Ashes of Klaas
          Welcome to the world of fantasy and the creak of patriotic sofas.

          Quote: bayard
          beauty .
          Quote: yuriy55
          How about that?

          And why not offer Cuba (Venezuela, Nicaragua) membership in the CSTO?
          Well, since NATO is talking about Sweden and Finland?
          And this is not only the deployment of bases, but also the expansion of markets for the Russian economy.
          Quote: Ashes of Klaas
          Do you remember the cockroach races in the VO after the Chinese were thrown in about the "construction of the Nicaraguan canal"? What started here!

          What started?
          China began to build the Navy at an accelerated pace - after all, the canal must be protected. And Panama is already overloaded and limits the size of ships. Maybe just postponed? In the General Staff and the Main Headquarters of the Russian Navy at that time, this undertaking (the Nicaraguan canal) was quite seriously talked about ... The "Mistrals", which were built in France, were planned just for services in protecting the canal.
          Quote: Ashes of Klaas
          , and for some kind of goblin S-400 in Cuba.

          Since there are bases in Cuba, one cannot do without the S-400.
          Quote: Ashes of Klaas
          By the end of the day, I believe, they will agree on "Buzova - President of the United States after a sex change."

          Even so ? what
          Well, I think America deserves this (president).
          It will be REVENGE. Yes

          In general, everything is quite logical - an ultimatum, the refusal of the enemy and a counter-ultimatum ... the deployment of bases in Latin America ... and the offer to Cuba, Nicaragua and Venezuela of membership in the CSTO.
          And also consider the possibility of membership for Syria, Iran and Iraq.
          And what gives such membership has just been demonstrated in Kazakhstan.
          Quote: Ashes of Klaas
          Well, or something like that
    2. +1
      14 January 2022 08: 24
      Yeah "returned" to Kazakhstan, but as the donkey said, IA-Eeyore enters and exits remarkably. Is someone waiting in Venezuela and Cuba?
      1. -4
        14 January 2022 10: 40
        Quote: Gardamir
        Is someone waiting in Venezuela and Cuba?

        IN CUBA !
        Waiting - in Cuba.
        Do not equate the Island of Freedom with Ukraine, "on" which it is no longer possible.
        ... Only in" .
    3. +1
      14 January 2022 08: 31
      Michael: That's not how things are done. First you need to help Cuba with equipment and food, and only then ask Cuba to place something.
      1. -3
        14 January 2022 10: 14
        Things are already being done (Not only in Cuba), I will say so and I can’t add anything else = D
    4. 0
      14 January 2022 11: 21
      No matter how the States go ahead of the curve and take appropriate actions in relation to some countries of L. America ... They will not look at this.
  5. -2
    14 January 2022 07: 43
    Everything is much more prosaic. laughing
    Nationalization of mineral resources by the countries of the Eurasian Union.
    https://youtu.be/dGsHZoSYUO8
    1. -13
      14 January 2022 08: 22
      Quote: Tank jacket
      Nationalization of mineral resources by the countries of the Eurasian Union.

      Why did they rush from Kazakhstan so quickly?
      1. +2
        14 January 2022 08: 34
        Oh, the "brotherhood" of Western bots has replenished.
        how are things in the west?
        like jam from a barrel and cookies from a basket?
        1. -4
          14 January 2022 08: 39
          Quote: just EXPL
          Oh, the "brotherhood" of Western bots has replenished.
          how are things in the west?
          like jam from a barrel and cookies from a basket?

          I myself am from Tula.
          My grandfather died in a workers' regiment in Rogozhna.
          Whose will you be?
      2. -3
        14 January 2022 08: 43
        Aleksey Sommer, do you have mineral resources? Body only? wassat
        1. -2
          14 January 2022 08: 46
          Quote: Tank jacket
          Do you have any subsoil? Body only? wassat

          Did you answer me?
          I just didn't understand.
        2. -5
          14 January 2022 08: 54
          Not Alexander, but Alexei.
          After the old NG double vision?
          1. -2
            14 January 2022 09: 11
            "Yes, what's the difference" (c)
            x/f Brother-2
            1. +1
              14 January 2022 10: 19
              Quote: Tank jacket
              "Yes, what's the difference" (c)
              x/f Brother-2

              Rusya, there is a difference.
      3. 0
        14 January 2022 09: 42
        Quote: Alexey Sommer
        that they rushed from Kazakhstan so quickly?

        And the past times there were also no apparent reasons to detain the security forces there for a long time. So now.
      4. +1
        14 January 2022 10: 57
        Quote: Alexey Sommer
        Why did they rush from Kazakhstan so quickly?

        So they promised to do everything quickly.
        Or is it a thrill to freeze the boys in the "brotherly steppe" at checkpoints?
        The CSTO showed a fair amount of efficiency and effectiveness, the rebellion was suppressed, and then they were on their own.
    2. 0
      14 January 2022 08: 46
      Quote: Tank jacket
      Everything is much more prosaic.

      If it were all so simple, then today we would somehow hear about these "nationalizations" and pressure on objectionable countries through these tools. But something is not discussed much about it. It is clear that there are not many politicians capable of understanding this. But they are. And they would definitely build their systems of political pressure on competitors on this knowledge.
      1. -2
        14 January 2022 09: 02
        We are forcing the West to impose maximum sanctions, all at once...
        We kick and kick, and they are masochists. They have already begun to mock them. These roosters endure...wassat
        This morning they took Kazakhstan and all of Central Asia from them. They endure...
        1. -2
          14 January 2022 09: 11
          We are forcing the West to impose maximum sanctions, all at once...
          It's like shooting yourself not even in the foot, but immediately in the head!
          1. -3
            14 January 2022 09: 29
            We will continue to mock and humiliate the collective west. So that the Mexicans already began to select the border states ...
            1. -1
              14 January 2022 09: 36
              We will continue to mock and humiliate the collective west.
        2. +2
          14 January 2022 09: 20
          Quote: Tank jacket
          We are forcing the West to impose maximum sanctions, all at once...

          We don't force. Forcing them (USA) the economy, in which the state has long been spending more than it earns. The issue of imposing sanctions is purely a matter of money. The whole policy around sanctions is just dancing with a tambourine to justify their introduction, because the ultimate goal is to scrape money fat off the body of a European. It is only necessary to convince him that he is insulted not just like that, but about .... so that he does not flinch. laughing
        3. +2
          14 January 2022 09: 27
          Recently Kazakhstan was taken away from them
          I am afraid to disappoint you, there is still a long way to the "selection" ...
          1. -3
            14 January 2022 09: 32
            Do not be afraid ... Already taken away. wassat
            What else to take away / nationalize?
            Here are the assets of Shell, ExxonMobil, Total, Eni next in line ...
  6. +7
    14 January 2022 07: 44
    They don’t understand jokes, this is Russian national fun to deploy missiles in Latin America. Unlike the 60s, the Caribbean crisis, we have something to get to the United States from under some kind of Uryupinsk, and more than once. Yes, and we are building SSBNs.
    1. 0
      14 January 2022 11: 03
      Quote: tralflot1832
      we have something to get to the USA from under some Uryupinsk,

      What about flying time?
      And do not forget that ICBMs and SLBMs are limited by contractual obligations.
      But the BRSD and CRBD, as well as the BRMD - NO.
      And again, the same - FLYING TIME.
      So the Guarantor constantly talks about flying time. smile
      And the delegation of the General Staff of the Russian Federation is in Cuba right now - to coordinate the issues of the return of the RF Armed Forces to their native Cuban bases. bully
      Campaign this is precisely the military and military-technical response to the creation of a mirror threat.
  7. +3
    14 January 2022 07: 44
    Well, the United States changed its mind about deploying means of attack in Ukraine. Or are they just words. Well, ours just said so. But the United States does not like this possibility.
    1. 0
      14 January 2022 09: 14
      Or is it just words.
      All US policy
    2. 0
      14 January 2022 11: 06
      Quote: Alexander 3
      Well, the United States changed its mind about deploying means of attack in Ukraine.

      First, they might change their mind.
      Secondly, they are not going to withdraw from Romania and Poland.
      Thirdly, what about American nuclear weapons in Europe? The same bombs B-61 block-12?
      No, the threats must be mirrored and very tangible.
  8. +6
    14 January 2022 07: 45
    What a hypocrisy!
  9. +7
    14 January 2022 07: 46
    A decisive answer. First, they themselves will arrange a provocation in the Donbass in order to involve the RF Armed Forces in the conflict, after which they will prohibit the sale of iPhones to Medvedev. For this, they can benefit from the expansion of the territories of Poland, Romania and Hungary.
    1. +2
      14 January 2022 08: 19
      And what, someone will be very upset if they no longer sell iPhones to Medvedev? lol
      Yes, somehow purple and in parallel.
      1. +2
        14 January 2022 09: 15
        And what, someone will be very upset if they no longer sell iPhones to Medvedev?
        I think I know one
        1. +1
          14 January 2022 09: 29
          "... and that someone is definitely not me." (c) Winnie the Pooh and everything, everything, everything. laughing
  10. +11
    14 January 2022 07: 48
    White House: Russian attempts to deploy forces in Latin America will lead to decisive US action
    Yes, scared already! We still have nowhere to retreat, only to crush merikatosnyu wherever possible, and not impossible. angry
    1. +4
      14 January 2022 07: 52
      If a fight is unavoidable, you must strike first.
      1. 0
        14 January 2022 08: 05
        Mikhail Sidorov (Mikhail)
        Today, 07: 52

        +1
        If a fight is unavoidable, you must strike first.
        Michael, hi ... Totally agree with you. And it is necessary to do, as one of the comrades used to say - "I hit twice! Once in the face, the second time on the coffin lid!" wink
      2. +4
        14 January 2022 08: 20
        Why are you excited? From all sides, there are responses to imaginary events. events. But the chicken is in the egg, and the egg is still in her pope. But anyone can express their opinion on the constitution. And I will express mine. ... Question 1. Is there any military sense from the deployment? 2. Did Cuba agree? 3. How to distinguish a decisive US response from a timid one, where is the line?
        1. 0
          14 January 2022 08: 34
          The decisive response of the United States is the invasion of Latin American countries by their PMCs under the guise of protests against Russian bases or a direct attack by the US Armed Forces / SMF on our forces there.,
        2. -2
          14 January 2022 11: 12
          Quote: mikh-korsakov
          . Did Cuba agree?

          Yes And Venezuela too.
          In Cuba, the military delegation of the Russian Federation will agree on issues right now - on returning to their native bases.
          Or do you think just because the debts of Cuba were written off more than 30 billion dollars.
          And Venezuela with our bases will be calmer and more confident.
          They can now be invited to the CSTO. bully
          More importantly, a guarantee of security, benefits for the purchase of weapons and training of military personnel.
  11. 0
    14 January 2022 07: 54
    The answer of the Anglo-Saxons is impudent, but quite clear, without any "partners" and "colleagues", apparently, justifiably counting on our indecision ...
    1. -3
      14 January 2022 09: 42
      Quote: Georgy Koval
      apparently justified in counting on our indecision ...
      Where does this vision come from? You may be confusing decisiveness with arrogance. The leadership of the Russian Federation today is behaving quite decisively, but without impudence.
  12. +5
    14 January 2022 08: 03
    "Our intelligence community processes information,"

    Sounds like a gardening club. :)

    And the subject is interesting
  13. +6
    14 January 2022 08: 05
    White House: Russian attempts to deploy forces in Latin America will lead to decisive US action

    The inclusion of Ukraine in NATO is a sovereign right, while the entry of Latin American countries into the CSTO is another. It looks like Russia's response will be different, the buildup of weapons, which the United States does not have and, due to this, an increase in the threat to the United States.
    1. +1
      14 January 2022 08: 24
      Quote: riwas
      and the entry of Latin American countries into the CSTO is another matter.

      Dreams, dreams, where is your sweetness.
      First, is there already a contract?
      Secondly, what will it give?
    2. +3
      14 January 2022 08: 37
      Most likely it will. There is already news of the creation of specialized storage sites for Dagger missiles with the basing of MiG-31K squadrons at airbases in the Russian Federation. This is the first swallow of a military-technical response.
      Then I think there will be an installation on all possible carriers of nuclear warheads with a statement about this.
      Acceleration of the production of hypersound of all available forms and their placement in convenient places.
    3. +2
      14 January 2022 11: 39
      Quote: riwas
      It looks like Russia's response will be different, a build-up of weapons that the United States does not have

      Are you talking about the Caliber, which are hundreds of times smaller than the Tomahawks? Or about Zircon, which is only being tested? Or about the Su-57 and T-14? What do we have in sufficient quantities that the Americans do not have, and how can we scare so much?
      1. 0
        14 January 2022 20: 32
        And is it zircon? Evil tongues say that they screwed something to Onyx and here it is for 10 years moving on SU-57, but things are still there
      2. 0
        15 January 2022 13: 10
        Do you calculate parity in quantities? Do you think this is the main thing?
        1. +1
          15 January 2022 15: 10
          Quote: Alex Nevs
          Do you calculate parity in quantities? Do you think this is the main thing?

          In any case, it's important. Better 100 old Tomahawks than 1 brand new Caliber
  14. +10
    14 January 2022 08: 06
    It would be naive to suppose that Putin was counting on the world gendrome to capitulate immediately. This is exactly the answer that was expected. Let's not guess on the coffee grounds, one of these days we will find out what answer Russia has prepared.
    1. AUL
      0
      14 January 2022 08: 46
      Quote: machinistvl
      It would be naive to believe that Putin expected that the world gendre would immediately capitulate.

      By the way, Putin's ultimatum expires TODAY. And the list of requirements (which is not a menu, but an indivisible complex) comes into force today. Tomorrow it will be seen whether they were thoughtful, calculated and justified statements or a bluff and a fart in a puddle. Looking forward to tomorrow!
      1. -2
        14 January 2022 09: 37
        The answer will be after receiving a written letter from the UWB and NATO ...
  15. +1
    14 January 2022 08: 10
    The decisiveness of the US actions, presumably, will be expressed in a decisive withdrawal of troops and nuclear weapons from Europe.
    I think that in Latin America it is necessary to act in a mirror manner to the actions of the United States in Europe - they have the 3rd positional area in Poland and Romania, respectively, we have a S-400 regiment in Cuba (Venezuela). And the goal is good - protection from air attack and the potential opportunity to replace the KPU with missiles with outwardly similar KPU with "Caliber". For information to critics and skeptics - such work has already been carried out in China, so this is not my fantasy. Thus, a good exchange option appears - "your missile defense system in Europe for ours in Latin America"
    1. 0
      14 January 2022 08: 25
      Quote: mark1
      The decisiveness of the US actions, presumably, will be expressed in a decisive withdrawal of troops and nuclear weapons from Europe.

      When was the last time?
      1. -1
        14 January 2022 09: 37
        Quote: Alexey Sommer
        When was the last time?

        As the Americans say - everything happens for the first time ...
    2. 0
      15 January 2022 13: 12
      And an iron excuse ala star stripes ".. protection from Antarctic penguins ..." laughing
  16. +6
    14 January 2022 08: 11
    Kindergarten In Latin America, there are shocking leaders, but there are no fools to place Russian missiles. They have completely different interests. And what can Russia offer them in return?
    1. +1
      14 January 2022 08: 22
      Absolutely nothing. From the word at all. We do not have such opportunities.
      And for us, in addition to Syria and Donbass, also for Latin America to make a furnace for burning money is, to put it mildly, not what is needed.
      1. -1
        14 January 2022 08: 44
        Quote: kaufman
        Absolutely nothing. From the word at all. We do not have such opportunities.

        Why is there no opportunity?
        And for us, in addition to Syria and Donbass, also for Latin America to make a furnace for burning money is, to put it mildly, not what is needed.

        From the creators of "We have enough of our own problems within the country"
        1. -1
          14 January 2022 08: 55
          both inside and around. Kazakhstan, for example, is leaving our sphere of influence. There is nothing to keep them, we offer nothing. And what about Latin America? what can I offer ?
          1. -3
            14 January 2022 09: 05
            Quote: kaufman
            both inside and around. Kazakhstan, for example, is leaving our sphere of influence. There is nothing to keep them, we offer nothing.

            For some reason, almost everyone writes that Kazakhstan, on the contrary, is beginning to enter the sphere of our influence. But under Nazarbayev there was a completely different picture. Well, this is at first glance, maybe of course you know something that will point to a completely different thing.
            And what about Latin America? what can I offer ?

            This is not about Latin America, but about a number of states only.
          2. +9
            14 January 2022 09: 50
            Quote: kaufman
            And what about Latin America? what can I offer ?

            Bingo! This is the main question, nullifying all the blissful fantasies of the basophrenics, sticking some kind of missiles into Venezuela, Cuba, or, sorry gossspadi, Nicaragua. There are three players in the Latin American theater - the US, the EU and the PRC - that's it. We are nobody there. They feed the Latinos, they dance. Well, let's explain to the dudes in ponchos and sombreros that we are going to supply them with missiles, we don't want Ukraine to join NATO. After long explanations with maps and gazetteers, what is "Ukraine", where is it and why borscht should become a dish of the national cuisine of Guarani, and that in exchange for the "base" the guys will receive five tractors "Belarus" and an ardent Russian friendship, we will, most likely sent by the Amazonian jungle. To get a free place in the backyard of the United States like this, just by flashing the Minister of Defense's tchotchki and conducting political information among the natives about the aggressive nature of the policy of these very United States - guys, well, smarten up already, or something.
          3. +1
            14 January 2022 11: 42
            Quote: kaufman
            And what about Latin America? what can I offer ?

            Americans can offer their dollars. We can offer our rubles. It’s also paper ... True, everyone understands that the Latinos will choose
            1. +2
              14 January 2022 12: 17
              Quote: Gritsa
              True, everyone understands that the Latinos will choose

              generally, they already have chosen.
        2. 0
          15 January 2022 13: 13
          Isn't there a button on the chair?
      2. -2
        14 January 2022 10: 19
        Quote: kaufman
        for us, in addition to Syria and Donbass, and Latin America, to make a furnace for burning money is, to put it mildly, not what is needed.
        Not what anyone needs? For merchants?
        1. 0
          14 January 2022 11: 59
          country. We still have to spend much money to good use
          1. +1
            14 January 2022 12: 19
            Quote: kaufman
            We still have where to spend money usefully

            Is it useful? And, well, yes - agglomerations in Siberia. Millionaires and "Aluminum Valley".
          2. -3
            14 January 2022 14: 34
            Quote: kaufman
            We still have where to spend money usefully
            Tell the Israelis, the Americans, the Chinese that they don't rummage around in the accounting department and profit, they throw a lot of money down the drain.
            1. -1
              14 January 2022 14: 48
              For the Israelis, this is a vital necessity, and the Chinese and Americans have the opportunity to arm themselves more than necessary.
              We do not have.
              We really need to build bridges and roads, especially in Siberia.
              We need to multiply at a tremendous speed, our demographics are simply terrible.
              and much more, you yourself know without me.
              Here's what to spend money on.
              1. +1
                14 January 2022 22: 54
                Quote: kaufman
                Here's what to spend money on.

                for self-discovery. Yes. We, your mother, occupy one ninth of land. But we are not engaged in the formation of models of its device, not in an emergency search for ways out of the impending impasse - NO! We masturbate some useless braces, demand, like a drunk plumber, "ssss!" and ....
                In general, we form the national idea, unfortunately, according to the brilliant Zhvanetsky - "whatever you do with a person, he stubbornly crawls to the cemetery." True, Mikhal Mikhalych put a slightly different meaning. Well, what is it. Let's crawl.
                1. -2
                  15 January 2022 06: 05
                  How did you grow up to a major here with such views?!
    2. -2
      14 January 2022 08: 26
      Hello Budar.
      Clearly said.
    3. -4
      14 January 2022 08: 40
      Quote: Kronos
      Kindergarten In Latin America, there are shocking leaders, but there are no fools to place Russian missiles. They have completely different interests. And what can Russia offer them in return?

      Kindergarten is an attempt to write something smart without having any information at all. You are only trying to fit some rooted facts in your head to fit your position, rejecting or not wanting to study the real state of affairs.
      1. +2
        14 January 2022 09: 53
        Quote: Cron
        unwilling to study the real state of affairs.

        Well, what is the real state of affairs? Russia has no tangible weight in the region.
        1. -6
          14 January 2022 09: 58
          Quote: Ashes of Klaas
          Well, what is the real state of affairs? Russia has no tangible weight in the region.

          Not in the region, in individual countries there is
          1. +4
            14 January 2022 10: 43
            Quote: Cron
            Not in the region, in individual countries there is

            no, this is just an attempt to rely on handshake regimes under which chairs sway. So-so perspective, no? LA, as you know, along with Africa - the champion of instability. Do you know that, say, in Bolivia since the time of Sema Bolivar, there have been more than 200 coups - more than 1 per year? Well, Rosneft is illegally speculating in Venezuelan oil to prop up Maduro's pants - ok. Do you call it "weight"? Rosneft press secretary Comrade Leontiev, of course, will make a bullshit out of this molehill about "our influence in the region," but, you see, this is just propaganda nonsense. The Chinese in LA are acting wiser and more far-sighted with their "Beijing model" - investments and exports without forceful pressure, in contrast to the stupid American model with aircraft carriers protecting investments. Ideally, the Chinese will have loyal Latin American governments no matter what. This is aerobatics, and not the idiotic puffing of the cheeks of "bases, missiles, Kuz'kin's mother."
            1. -3
              14 January 2022 10: 58
              Quote: Ashes of Klaas
              Well, Rosneft is illegally speculating in Venezuelan oil to prop up Maduro's pants - approx. Do you call this "weight"?

              We are talking about different things. You write about the weight in the region, and I about the real possibilities for the deployment of weapons.
              You even speak in American narratives, using phrases about "illegality." They would be illegal if it was in relation to the DPRK. Where sanctions were imposed by the Security Council. Only sanctions from the Security Council are legal. The rest is just a private initiative of a group of countries. Not in accordance with international law, which they love to shout about
              1. +2
                14 January 2022 11: 36
                Quote: Cron
                The rest is just a private initiative of a group of countries. Not in accordance with international law, which they love to shout about

                Strange, why then does Rosneft bashfully hide its ties with the Venezuelan oil monopoly, which is under "illegal sanctions"? Why does he prefer shady fuss over open disregard for the sanctions of American villains?
                Quote: Cron
                and I'm talking about the real possibilities for the deployment of weapons.

                Real? Well, in theory, of course, it is possible to keep a bottle with a "newbie" in the Oval Office, too.
                1. -3
                  14 January 2022 11: 57
                  Quote: Ashes of Klaas
                  Strange, why then does Rosneft bashfully hide its ties with the Venezuelan oil monopoly, which is under "illegal sanctions"? Why does he prefer shady fuss over open disregard for the sanctions of American villains?

                  Well, probably, to understand this, you need to have the presence of at least some intelligence. Do not you think? And you have to try more advanced topics to discuss.
                  Real? Well, in theory, of course, it is possible to keep a bottle with a "newbie" in the Oval Office, too.

                  Your imagination is not particularly interesting, to be honest
                  1. +2
                    14 January 2022 12: 13
                    Quote: Cron
                    Well, probably, in order to understand this, you need to have at least some kind of intelligence.

                    so you didn't show it. Nothing but thoughtful puffing of cheeks.
                    Quote: Cron
                    Your imagination is not particularly interesting, to be honest

                    well, no more than yours with bases, missiles and other junk.
                    1. -3
                      14 January 2022 12: 37
                      Quote: Ashes of Klaas
                      so you didn't show it. Nothing but thoughtful puffing of cheeks.

                      Well, what's the puffing of the cheeks? You climb into such deep questions, and immediately pour in seemingly elementary things.
                      well, no more than yours with bases, missiles and other junk.

                      I'm just talking about the possibilities and everything (from my point of view). How it really is, I don't know. I don't have all the information. Maybe you are right, maybe not. I'm not a supporter of such actions, or an opponent. And I only talk in terms of real possibilities.
    4. -1
      14 January 2022 08: 42
      Quote: Kronos
      Kindergarten In Latin America, there are shocking leaders, but there are no fools to place Russian missiles. They have completely different interests. And what can Russia offer them in return?


      Valenki, balalaikas, caviar, world championship in towns ... A lot of things.
    5. -1
      14 January 2022 09: 40
      We buy Venezuelan oil. Venezuela under sanctions. It's enough?
      1. +1
        14 January 2022 10: 19
        Quote: ser-pov
        We buy Venezuelan oil. Venezuela under sanctions. It's enough?

        oh, this is a song) Everything is fine here - stealth tankers with disabled transponders, covert operations, insider information, espionage, investigative journalism, bogus "one-day", Indian cash for illegal yushka .... In general, beauty. Venezuelan version "we survived as best we could" (TM)
        I also love the Venezuelan oil-for-food story. Everything is according to the laws of the kleptocratic genre.
  17. 0
    14 January 2022 08: 25
    The United States is ready to give Russia a "strong response" ... we will deal with this decisively
    How many years this verbiage has been going on, and there is obviously no higher decision on the "decisive answer" (I apologize for the tautology). And again about the invasion, which can never take place, no matter how the American "specialists" predict the date of its start. The record is not just worn out, but erased to the ground. Already cheekbones, as if from a whole lemon, it reduces listening to the Sullivans, Blinkins, Stoltenbergs, etc.
  18. 0
    14 January 2022 08: 30
    It is very similar to the "last Chinese warnings" that existed in the 60s and 70s - 5941s, 5942s, 5943s, etc.
  19. +3
    14 January 2022 08: 32
    Scared a hedgehog naked booty ... lol
    1. +2
      14 January 2022 10: 49
      Quote: your vsr 66-67
      Scared a hedgehog naked booty ... lol

      yes, it is hardly possible to scare the Americans with a base in Cuba. laughing
  20. HAM
    +2
    14 January 2022 08: 33
    Actually, one person in the Kremlin prefers non-standard solutions, so do not guess and trust the words of "American intelligence", which will adjust any "data" that is beneficial to the states ..
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  22. +5
    14 January 2022 08: 46
    The United States is ready to give Russia a "strong response" in the event of the deployment of Russian forces in Latin America.


    if they carried out the blockade of Cuba at a time when Soviet troops were stationed in Berlin and the Soviet army was the largest in the world. Now the United States will simply raze any state in Latin America to the ground as soon as its government agrees to host Russian weapons.
    Therefore, none of the states of Latin America, including Cuba, would agree to such a deployment.

    Russia can stop NATO expansion in only one way, namely by launching an operation to enforce peace in Ukraine by reaching Galicia and Transnistria. And as for sanctions, in any case they will be imposed to the maximum already because our military units are on Russian territory Rostov region.
    Moreover, the peace enforcement operation should be carried out as harshly as possible so that no one else in any of the former republics even has the idea to try to join NATO.
    NATO understands only the forceful actions that we can demonstrate and not our concerns and anxieties, which for them are only a sign of our weakness.
    1. 0
      14 January 2022 08: 59
      Quote: lopvlad
      if they carried out the blockade of Cuba at a time when Soviet troops were stationed in Berlin and the Soviet army was the largest in the world

      Thanks to Penkovsky, they were aware of the real ratio of nuclear weapons. Therefore, what you are trying to think has nothing to do with reality.
    2. -2
      14 January 2022 10: 21
      Quote: lopvlad
      The United States will simply raze any state in Latin America to the ground as soon as its government agrees to host Russian weapons.

      The precedent is important, he unties his hands for
      launched an operation to enforce peace in Ukraine

      but -
      Quote: lopvlad
      none of the states of Latin America, including Cuba, would agree to such a placement.

      Therefore, it is necessary to place (formally lease with our specialists) the S-400 with the options that I indicated above
    3. 0
      15 January 2022 13: 18
      Do you mean Israeli tactics? Or really a boot on the map? Isn't it cheaper to sponsor constant coups? Now you don’t need 5 yards of Nulandsha, now it will cost much less, you have to wait for more "critical mass", or maybe this winter the critical one will work out.
  23. +1
    14 January 2022 08: 54
    White House: Russian attempts to deploy forces in Latin America will lead to decisive US action

    Here "it" boiled ...
    stop It is necessary to place ... It is necessary !!!
  24. +3
    14 January 2022 08: 54
    But what about the freedom to choose countries, countries themselves determine with whom to be friends?
  25. +1
    14 January 2022 09: 04
    The United States is ready to give Russia a "strong response" in the event of the deployment of Russian forces in Latin America

    Monroe Doctrine?
    And what are the Pindos troops doing in Europe? And what do pin dos and small-shaven "instructors" do in 404?
    And, as always, is it different?
    Sovereign countries themselves know who they let into their territory?
    Well, if the Latinos want to place Russian bases on their territory, then what will the bans be for them? And the foundation? like "our left heel on the third leg wants so"? lol lol
    1. +1
      14 January 2022 09: 29
      Quote: K-50
      And what are the Pinnacle troops doing in Europe?


      carry out the military development of the territory of the USSR, which was lost in the Cold War, divided into separate countries.
      Any even hypothetical attempt by Russia to counteract this is responded with new sanctions. And while it works, Ukraine is being rearmed and its military development by the West is taking place.
  26. +1
    14 January 2022 09: 05
    Give me a base in Mexico fellow laughing
  27. 0
    14 January 2022 09: 08
    They do not understand and will not understand, because they are stupid. Understanding they come only at the moment when they begin to press their genitals in the doorway.
    1. 0
      15 January 2022 13: 20
      Of course they don't understand. If it is unconventional to "hollow" anyone, then the consciousness is turned over. And there are such OH jumps.
  28. 0
    14 January 2022 09: 09
    And the Russians do not need a large base in America, the main thing is that they can serve the Poseidons, and so, stop by for a coffee, drink a cigar.
  29. 0
    14 January 2022 09: 09
    Poseidons in Latin America do not need, when placing them around the USA,
    will have to pull very resolutely out of Europe.
  30. -1
    14 January 2022 09: 17

    The United States is ready to give Russia a "strong response"
    express another serious concern? Or will they still reach 21 Chinese warnings?
  31. +1
    14 January 2022 09: 19
    If Russia moves in this direction, we will deal with this decisively.

    - Sullivan stated, without explaining what he means by these words.
    And the point is not iron, as soon as the snakes in the pan spun - "What if they really knead?" They can be placed in Poland and Romania, but Russia is not allowed in Venezuela, that's the logic of unbalanced, illiterate children of Uncle Tom.
    1. -3
      14 January 2022 09: 50
      Unfortunately for the UWB, we have mobile nuclear missile launchers on wheels (which, by the way, they don't have) that are delivered by plane. You can't track them, like ships in the Caribbean Crisis. Here's a headache...
  32. 0
    14 January 2022 09: 24
    Can't the CIA and MI6 organize a provocation? The worst thing is what they can and will do. And for CNN it will not rust.
  33. -1
    14 January 2022 09: 24
    Oh, how interesting they will "slow down" deliveries? WTA shoot down? And if the fleet? Not the Caribbean crisis, there is someone to put on guard. Decide on a large "dump"? And if the landfill becomes truly "large"? Big bad boom? Just from the fact that "the whole world will be our sandbox"? NATO, created for security, indulged in the sin of pride and plunged the world into ... the end of the world? Oh I doubt it. Rockets will be placed there, and the Cuban army will rearm. 10-12 billion will be found on credit. How then? But in no way. Similarly, with the military response to Ukraine. No way. Sanctions and all. They are no longer a surprise. And almost everything is used. Then just gouge out your own eye so that we have two eyes less. But this is where the magic is needed.
    1. 0
      14 January 2022 19: 52
      Quote: sleeve
      Decide on a large "dump"? And if the landfill becomes truly "large"?


      that you worry about them. You worry about us. They staged the Caribbean crisis because Soviet missiles appeared 100 miles from the US coast, and we have been silent for more than 7 years while they place their military infrastructure in Ukraine a few kilometers from Belgorod, Rostov and Crimea.
      The only thing that Russia can now do is prevent Ukraine from joining NATO, and this can be guaranteed only by entering Ukraine with our troops and forcing it to peace.
      1. 0
        15 January 2022 13: 28
        When there are so many scenarios with "points of bifurcation" to the Ukrainian question, you simply do not know based on what the situation will "unwind" now. You can only sit and watch carefully. Moreover, it makes no sense to prepare for something and try to "cover" something from the upcoming sanctions. There it smacks of a change in the structure of the economy in principle - such will be the result of the "outskirts" quartermaster for us.
  34. 0
    14 January 2022 09: 37
    Oh, no matter how good it turned out, this NATO can be everywhere bases, troops can be deployed, and everyone else can’t even think about it.
  35. +2
    14 January 2022 09: 51
    It turns out they can, where they want to build their military bases. How many are there around the world? 800? Now, if Russia builds a base in Latin America, then the US is opposed? Gentlemen, is it okay that you brazenly approached the borders of Russia and its allies? It turns out you can, but others can not? Let's throw aside the mask from the face. Russia plays with an open face and is not hypocritical. You have to be a worthy opponent and not like a flock of tobacco.
  36. +2
    14 January 2022 10: 13
    There will be no attempt! There will be placement of appropriate types of weapons.
  37. +1
    14 January 2022 10: 25
    It's a challenge? Aren't there sovereign states on the South American continent or in the Gulf of Mexico and the Pacific Ocean, with their own governments and independent peoples? And in Russia the doors are always open for friendship with these states. We can't close these doors!
  38. -1
    14 January 2022 10: 34
    1. Hypersonic missiles with a range of 1t.km. and the ability to launch both from land and from under water. Khan to all ships.
    2. They will not be able to answer, because we have poseidons. How many of them is unknown. But if 5 of them are on one coast of the states, and 5 on the other. They don't twitch.
    3. Ability to shoot down satellites. States will quickly go blind without navigation and go deaf without communications.
    1. 0
      14 January 2022 10: 40
      Aleks_Potriotius (Domansky Alexander)
      Today, 10: 34
      NEW
      +1
      1. Hypersonic missiles with a range of 1t.km. and the ability to launch both from land and from under water. Khan to all ships.
      2. They will not be able to answer, because we have poseidons. How many of them is unknown. But if 5 of them are on one coast of the states, and 5 on the other. They don't twitch.
      3. Ability to shoot down satellites. States will quickly go blind without navigation and go deaf without communications.
      ...and also cut ALL their submarine cables. From this they will immediately make "paws uphill!"
  39. -1
    14 January 2022 10: 46
    He promised to announce the final "scenario" of the Russian invasion in the near future.
    . I like that"!!! They will write us the scenario of the invasion! and who will implement it, skakuasy? boy Zyo? Or do they have someone else in mind?
  40. 0
    14 January 2022 11: 11
    Ooty - the way, how scary.
  41. +1
    14 January 2022 11: 26
    And what about the Account: California to feed Washington? laughing
  42. -1
    14 January 2022 13: 23
    Quote: Cheshire
    All this leaves only a step before the war, talkers.

    And what do you suggest? continue to send "concern"? Already and so we sat on the neck. Everything has a chapel. It’s a bit late, of course, they began to snap, but it’s clear that there are reasons for this in the form of readiness (S-500 and 550, Zircons, Daggers, Poseidons ...)
  43. 0
    14 January 2022 15: 06
    They are afraid, how. RSD in Venezuela is like a Colt opposite the brain. And radio engineering in Cuba. Phew!
  44. 0
    14 January 2022 16: 46
    The United States is ready to give Russia a "strong response" in the event of the deployment of Russian forces in Latin America. Jake Sullivan, National Security Adviser to the President of the United States
    The "decisive answer" is the next sanctions - they will forbid us to sell their gadgets.
  45. -2
    14 January 2022 17: 57
    If Russia and so on, then the White House will be repainted, to spite Russia.
  46. +1
    14 January 2022 18: 42
    For Russia, Ukraine is not Latin America, but the state of Texas.
  47. 0
    14 January 2022 23: 55
    There will be no Russian bases in Cuba or anywhere in this region. Simply because there are no forces and means for this.
    And because the United States has a huge Air Force and Navy grouping in Florida, including fighter, bomber aircraft, aircraft carriers and multi-purpose nuclear submarines with cruise missiles.
    Venezuela is further away, but Cuba is ALL within the range of American strike weapons.

    Russia simply does not have enough excess aircraft to cover the hypothetical missiles deployed on the island from a possible American attack.
    And there is no fleet either.
  48. UFO
    0
    15 January 2022 12: 31
    “Let's create an equal threat” for the West, and this is exactly what it needs from us. For this, they withdrew from the treaties, in order to invite us (if not on a mutual basis of conspiracy of world militarists) to a new level of equal threats, drawing us into a devastating arms race, like the USSR, which we will lose economically. At the same time, the main “trick” of their negotiation show is to divert attention from conceptual thinking and push the old concept of frontal oncoming poison into our subconscious. hit. Whereas another concept of a lightning-fast “dagger” strike to the brain is possible and an equal build-up of “muscles” is not necessary. A few zircons are enough to hit the "brain" on the command post and S550 in terms of the number of satellites to paralyze the control system.
  49. 0
    15 January 2022 12: 52
    Specialists in Hollywood are already working on various versions of Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
  50. 0
    15 January 2022 18: 01
    And the deployment of Americans near the Russian borders does not mean that Russia should take appropriate action. Well, only NATO and Americans can do this.
  51. -2
    15 January 2022 18: 15
    The mood in modern Venezuela is far from what it was 20-30 years ago. Old people remember well the standard of living before the revolution. Now there is poverty, decline and unemployment. People who fled the Chavez regime told me that the ideas of communism among the people had sharply faded.
  52. 0
    16 January 2022 01: 24
    Quote: vervolk
    y! Turns out you stepped on a pet peeve? but this is only one of the options!

    It would be nice to help Latinos and Argentines, but is this possible?
    No! The gut is thin. The hegemon will immediately freeze the accounts of our officials, expel their children from Cambridge, and tear the minister’s grandchildren away from the Western Wall.
    It’s a pity that the Russian Federation is a pitiful semblance. THE USSR.
    Gromyko alone could do more with his “No” at the UN General Assembly than all the sexual attempts of our entire Foreign Ministry in all the years since 1991.
    Castrated officials squandered the UN resolution equating Zionism with terrorism.
    They sold the SFRY for humanitarian aid.
    They gave M. Gaddafi and prosperous Libya to be torn to pieces by perverts (apparently sodomite pleasures are close to their spirit).
  53. 0
    16 January 2022 01: 33
    Quote: AC130 Ganship
    People who fled the regime told me

    Yes, there are different people there. There are many living on ridiculous subsidies. Of course, the screws have been tightened on business, even the shopkeepers are in a nightmare. Medicine is tolerable.
    And cosmetology costs literally pennies.
    All the girls are “retouched” with Botox and pumped up with silicone to the utmost “don’t spoil them.”
    The “regime” is loyal to mining and Bitcoin.
    But mostly they live poorly.
    This is a paradox. There is oil, there are no oligarch ghouls with their RubleaoNikolinoGornayaZhukovka.
    It is unknown what they do with the proceeds from exports.