German Correspondent: "Show of Muscle" Helped Putin to Stop NATO Expansion

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Ultimately, the Russian president will get the West to fulfill his demands, the main one of which is to stop the North Atlantic Alliance's advance to the east, to the borders of the Russian Federation. To stop NATO expansion, Putin was helped by a "show of muscle."

This opinion was expressed by Christoph Wanner, a special correspondent for the German newspaper Welt in Moscow.



He believes that the Russian leader will not be able to obtain documentary guarantees from the Western countries, but they will not accept Georgia and Ukraine into the North Atlantic Alliance in the coming years, so as not to anger the Kremlin. This means that in fact Moscow will get what it demanded.

Putin has achieved this, the German correspondent believes, actively demonstrating his strength. Therefore, Russia, according to a representative of Western media, regularly modernizes its weapons, conducts large-scale exercises and pulls troops to the Ukrainian borders. The main goal of all this was to stop NATO expansion to the east, and this is most likely achieved.

Figuratively speaking, Putin took out his club and held the barrel of a pistol to the temple of the West. Apparently, there is some truth in the phrase attributed to the American gangster Al Capone:
With a kind word and a gun, you can achieve much more than just a kind word.

Recall that Russia demanded that NATO abandon further expansion, including at the expense of the territories of the former USSR. NATO said that Russia has no right to dictate its terms to the alliance.
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  1. +18
    13 January 2022 13: 30
    Weird German.
    It's not about the formal admission of someone there to NATO, but mainly about the "military development" of the territories of non-NATO members.
    Even if Ukraine and Georgia are not accepted into NATO, but NATO strike systems appear there, it does not matter to us in Russia whether these countries are in NATO or not.
    Signatures in the contract do not affect the flying time.
    1. +4
      13 January 2022 13: 46
      I wonder what kind of muscles? Smooth or striated?
      1. +3
        13 January 2022 13: 50
        This means that, in fact, Moscow will get what it demanded.

        This is Victory, everything is clear, we disperse.
        1. 0
          13 January 2022 15: 02
          Already the second. The first was that they came to the meeting, the second - that they did not fulfill the ultimatum, although deep down they did.
          1. -2
            13 January 2022 16: 29
            Quote: military_cat
            Already the second. The first was that they came to the meeting, the second - that they did not fulfill the ultimatum, although deep down they did.

            Well, when you write with irony, even put a smiley face, and then some do not understand!

            As for this cunning and cunning Vanner, then in vain is he trying to sweeten the bitter pill and pretend that the matter is over. It's NOT over!
      2. 0
        13 January 2022 13: 59
        Quote: Ilya-spb
        I wonder what kind of muscles? Smooth or striated?

        Sphincters refer to smooth muscles am
      3. +3
        13 January 2022 14: 04
        Putin took out his club and held the barrel of a pistol to the West's temple.

        I wonder what kind of muscles? Smooth or striated?

        He put the muzzle of the pistol to his temple. So, I used all the muscles of the arm lol
        1. +2
          13 January 2022 14: 48
          Quote: Sharky
          He put the muzzle of the pistol to his temple.

          And a club for a control blow. good
    2. +4
      13 January 2022 14: 25
      Following the logic of the German correspondent)) we can say that
      You can achieve much more with a club and a pistol than just a pistol))
      Is his last name definitely not Klitschko?)
  2. +4
    13 January 2022 13: 33
    And if they do not obey, then the baton will be introduced into their anus smile
    1. +7
      13 January 2022 14: 26
      This is not our method! They will also like it)))
  3. +5
    13 January 2022 13: 33
    NATO will start looking for a compromise anyway, no one needs a war, even a small one with unknown consequences ... but the states, of course, will add fuel to the fire and pull their puppets by the strings, just to harm Russia.
    1. +5
      13 January 2022 14: 33
      Quote: Alexey-74
      but the states, of course, will add fuel to the fire and pull their puppets by the strings, just to harm Russia.

      The states are sitting behind a big puddle and this gives them a false sense of security and impunity.
      1. 0
        13 January 2022 14: 52
        Quote: Third District
        a sense of security and impunity.

        "Poseidons" dispel these feelings, and they are apparently already fully prepared.
  4. +1
    13 January 2022 13: 35
    Figuratively speaking, Putin took out a club and put the muzzle of a pistol to the temple of the West.


    No, it’s just that the West is always with a gun, and then the VP decided to get a gun. While the West puffs out its cheeks, it thinks that the VP is simply intimidating.
    Well, let's see how the matter ends and the VP will really get it or will it be limited to a verbal warning.
    Why did the USA decide that everything would be limited to a verbal warning.
  5. +1
    13 January 2022 13: 37
    I don't think anyone stopped anything. Nothing prevents us from concluding bilateral military treaties with Ukraine. Even the conclusion of an agreement on non-expansion of NATO does not prohibit the conclusion of separate military alliances: Great Britain-Ukraine, Poland-Ukraine, Turkey-Ukraine, USA-Ukraine, France-Ukraine, and at least Japan-Ukraine. Ukraine will be strengthened in opposition to Putin and without NATO membership. Therefore, in the long term, Ukraine is sailing to the West. Questions about Georgia still remain. However, on the western border, the prospect has already been outlined. The border with NATO will be from the Baltic to the Black Sea in the end. I do not think that Putin will decide on aggression against Ukraine, it will be the collapse of his regime.
    1. -1
      13 January 2022 13: 47
      I do not think that Putin will decide on aggression against Ukraine, it will be the collapse of his regime.
      The collapse of the Putin regime is bound to happen in the near future. An example is the same Kazakhstan. Quite a bit of time has passed, and the Elbasy is already accused of all mortal sins, a little more and he will be put in the dock. This is the tradition.
      But without aggression towards Ukraine, it is impossible to ensure Ukraine's entry into NATO.
      Or war or Ukraine in NATO, there will be no third.
      After all, not Ukraine itself is needed in NATO, but NATO needs the territory occupied by Ukraine for.
    2. +3
      13 January 2022 13: 55
      Quote: Orel
      I do not think that Putin will decide on aggression against Ukraine, it will be the collapse of his regime.

      And what about the regime when the question of security and the very existence of Russia arises?
      Neither Europe nor Russia needs the militarization of Ukraine, but some European Gauleiters do not think about the consequences, to please the State Department's wishes. Putin will do anything to eliminate this threat and he does not care what methods it will be carried out.
      1. -4
        13 January 2022 14: 22
        Quote: kventinasd
        And what about the regime when the question of security and the very existence of Russia arises?


        I doubt that something will happen to Russia without Putin's regime. I remember my great-grandfather told me more. When Stalin died, the great-grandmother came home from work and was crying, lamenting: "Stalin is dead! How will we live now!" Great-grandfather laughed and replied: "Don't worry, there will be people." Therefore, I am sure that everything will be fine with Russia on one condition, if we build the right policy, develop the country and economy, and reveal the creative and scientific potential of our people.
      2. +5
        13 January 2022 14: 24
        Quote: kventinasd
        Putin will do anything to eliminate this threat and he does not care what methods it will be done.

        Well, now, most likely, NATO members will send us through the forest with our ultimatum - what are we going to do? It looks like we just decided to scare. it will not go further than this. It is foolish to think that NATO and the United States will turn out to be so timid - they have more than enough military foolishness.
        1. -2
          13 January 2022 15: 46
          Quote: Gritsa
          It is foolish to think that NATO and the United States will turn out to be so timid - they have more than enough military foolishness.

          This is when they cannot give back, and when the question of the existence of NATO itself arises, they themselves will creep in to sign any papers. Russia is not North Korea and Iran for them, they can fly in as an adult and sneeze at the amount of NATO nonsense, the answer will be enough for everyone.
    3. +3
      13 January 2022 14: 16
      Ukraine will be strengthened in opposition to Putin and without NATO membership.

      Is Ukraine going to fight with Putin or is it with Russia?
      I do not think that Putin will decide on aggression against Ukraine, it will be his collapse mode.

      Well, then there are no questions, you can see where the legs grow from. There are only regimes around, only in the States there is democracy. laughing
      1. -1
        13 January 2022 14: 28
        Quote: Horon
        Well, then there are no questions, you can see where the legs grow from. There are only regimes around, only in the States there is democracy.


        Regime is when there is no turnover of power. Objectively, I have not seen a change of power in Russia for more than 20 years. Does the word "regime" bother you? I don't see anything offensive in it, it's a statement of fact. You will not prove to me that we can easily and independently win elections and become president for anyone?) If so, then this is holy naivety. None of "their own" will be admitted to significant positions before the elections for a cannon shot. It is possible for positions that do not affect anything, but for high levels - only "their own" ideologically correct.
        1. -3
          13 January 2022 14: 54
          You will not prove to me that we can calmly and independently win elections and become president.

          Do you have evidence to the contrary? Am I talking about real evidence of electoral fraud? With this evidence, did you apply to the prosecutor's office or is it just another "la-la" from a failed oppositionist? Talk to Merkel about 20 years of irremovability, or was there a regime in Germany too?
          If so, then this is holy naivety.

          Under Yeltsin, did we have a regime or a democracy? On the other hand, the change of power in "democracies", as history shows, does not affect the attitude of power towards the plebs.
          None of "their" before the elections for a cannon shot

          The question arises of who you will consider "not your own", "their own" and who your acquaintances and neighbors will consider as such. My "friends" are not there at all, and those who designate themselves as such, judging by the 90s, quickly become even more "friends" for "friends".
          It is possible for positions that do not affect anything, but for high levels - only "their own" ideologically correct.

          There are no small positions - there are crafty careerist people who occupy a position and relieve themselves of responsibility, shifting the arrows to anyone and anything. And the naive, just this is being led, because they know nothing about the political "kitchen", where issues are resolved in a completely different way than voters think about it. As for the "ideological" of politicians, this can be regarded as an anecdote, especially for people brought up under the USSR and who saw with their own eyes how these same "ideological" ones were repainted.
        2. -1
          14 January 2022 08: 02
          "The regime is when there is no turnover of power."
          Russia only achieved significant success when the head of government was in power for many years - Peter, Catherine, Elizabeth, Stalin
          We don't need interim rulers.
  6. -2
    13 January 2022 13: 39
    Figuratively speaking, Putin took out a club and put the muzzle of a pistol to the temple of the West.

    The baton will only work when it smells of fried under the noses of the Americans and forces them to initiate any negotiations with the Russian Federation, but for now this is nothing more than a play on words. The Americans are ready to put the whole of Europe to the slaughter.
  7. +5
    13 January 2022 13: 48
    Something strange. It looks like "a bought journalist broadcasts about Putin's victory" What is the victory then? But where are the muscles? NATO will swallow those 200 thousand near the border, since it is much superior to the RF Armed Forces in conventional weapons.
    And in fact, NATO has already settled in Ukraine
    1. -1
      13 January 2022 14: 27
      Quote: JonnyT
      NATO will swallow those 200 thousand at the border, since it is much superior to the RF Armed Forces in conventional weapons.

      It's enough to roll Ukraine into black soil. But for butting with NATO, the strength is rather weak. But they are not particularly eager to butt with us, because for them Ukraine is not worth the losses that they may suffer.
      Therefore, it is necessary to wet Banderostan, while all this NATO trash completely settled in Ukraine. And so for 8 years the fool was persecuted and watched as the enemy grows near our borders.
    2. KCA
      0
      13 January 2022 15: 02
      NATO will swallow, but not 200, but they, psheks with tribalts will defeat Russia, or maybe Portugal will send a platoon of soldiers to win? And, small-shaven, no, the French, no, the Germans, and who then? Where are the fools to die for the great country 000, who owe their entire existence to it?
  8. +5
    13 January 2022 14: 00
    To stop NATO expansion, Putin was helped by a "show of muscle."
    Unlike many "leaders", Putin personally has something to show in his age .. good
    And the West, apparently, is not enough "a pistol to the temple", it needs a TNT stick under its butt to understand that everything is very serious and Russia has nowhere to retreat.
  9. +2
    13 January 2022 14: 09
    German Correspondent: "Show of Muscle" Helped Putin to Stop NATO Expansion
    Is the issue already resolved? You shouldn't say GOP while the skakuas and others are still vibrating, you know which way.
    1. +3
      13 January 2022 14: 26
      Has the issue been resolved already?

      This is just a custom-made, provocative article to create public opinion in which, the negotiating politicians are deprived of opportunities for compromises (if you made a compromise with Putin, it means you got scared). Only a narrow-minded person can perceive it as social humility before "terrible Russia."
      1. +4
        13 January 2022 14: 48
        The times have long ago come that one should relate to the media ... or better not to relate in any way.
        Craftsmen on maintenance.
        Where is it some kind of independent, objective, truthful, question ???
  10. +3
    13 January 2022 14: 34
    And stop quoting the beast ??? Al Capone started to be an example of philosophy to follow??? Enough of Fyodor Mikhailovich and the ego of philosophy, which is over the beast for a bright year. One of the most disgusting thoughts of this yasher: "Nothing personal, just business."
    Yasheritsa Everything is PERSONAL, but the medicine for Yasher is a pool in the forehead !!! wink
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  13. +1
    13 January 2022 16: 18
    What the West can promise, it will just as easily take back its words.
  14. sen
    +3
    13 January 2022 16: 34
    German Correspondent: "Show of Muscle" Helped Putin to Stop NATO Expansion

    The idea of ​​negotiations is so much for clearing one's conscience. What matters is what happens after they fail. Does Russia have an ace up its sleeve? Or was it just fluff?
  15. 0
    13 January 2022 16: 46
    How much you can ask, which year the requests are ignored ... We don’t want to enter the war, not one sane person would want such a scenario for the development of the situation, and all sorts of parasites are constantly escalating ((
  16. +1
    13 January 2022 17: 37
    Well, let's try to fantasize with what Russia can answer: equip Donbass with new and effective weapons, recognize the republics on the basis of a referendum, send troops to the republics, even though they must declare this as part of a limited contingent, stick Iskander along the border from the Baltic to the Black Sea, stir up China has an affair (I doubt it), screw the valve to the West (where to get the money to the budget). What else? Let's options. Nationalize what belongs to the Westerners?
  17. -2
    13 January 2022 20: 01
    NATO is a toothless tiger. He has no real fighting power. Whenever the United States undertakes a joint mission with NATO, this means that the United States supplies 85 to 90% of the troops and equipment, and NATO supplies the remaining 15% of all NATO countries combined. I would like the United States to stop supporting European countries that are too lazy to invest in their armed forces. NATO is outdated and an endless drain for the already devastated US economy. Get rid of NATO! Or make them pay for their defense.
  18. -1
    14 January 2022 00: 12
    Collective defense is the best solution of all time.
    And a club of interests, and small contributions - a good roof.

    One in the field is not a warrior, everyone knows this.
    To frighten a hedgehog with a naked texture is also a known outcome.

    Bluffing is bad. I understand that the supreme official wanted
    come in with trump cards, but they (trump cards) were lost along the way.

    If you really understand - the example of the European Union showed clearly and intelligibly,
    that you can conclude agreements and break countries separately,
    but impossible to resist the community.
    That the EU, that NATO - are strong in their commonality, it's a flock.
    My position is neutral
    I'm just watching the round dances of the Russian Federation-NATO.

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