"Discrepancies between customs statistics of Kazakhstan and China amount to billions of US dollars": Tokayev instructed to restore order on the border with China

Kazakhstan is returning to a peaceful life, the president of the republic outlined tasks for the new government and parliament. Tokayev considers one of such tasks to establish order on the customs border with China.

According to the Kazakh press, Tokayev has set the task to sort out the situation on the border of Kazakhstan and China as soon as possible, where, according to him, "a real mess" is going on. At a parliamentary meeting, the President instructed to restore order there, stating that the discrepancies between the customs statistics of Kazakhstan and China amount to "billions of US dollars."

Tokayev drew the attention of law enforcement officers to some "untouchable operators", instructing the General Prosecutor's Office to conduct a comprehensive check. The Ministry of Finance and the Financial Monitoring Agency should join the prosecutor's office.

The real mess going on there is well known. Cars are not searched, taxes and duties are not paid

- said the Kazakh leader, adding that putting things in order at customs will bring additional funds to the state treasury, which are necessary for carrying out reforms.

It is emphasized that the issue with customs on the border of China has been standing for a long time and has not yet been resolved. Back in 2017, the discrepancy in statistical data on trade between countries was quite a big difference. If Beijing announced an increase in trade turnover by 46%, then the Kazakh customs showed only 30%.

Meanwhile, Kassym-Jomart Tokayev urged wealthy citizens of Kazakhstan to start sharing their income with a less wealthy stratum of the country's population. According to him, a fund "To the People of Kazakhstan" is being created in the republic, which urgently needs sponsors. The government has been tasked with determining the range of companies and simply rich individuals who will make annual contributions to the fund.

Tokayev stressed that in Kazakhstan during Nazarbayev's rule there were a lot of people who were rich even by world standards, and now the time has come to help the people on a "systematic basis."

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[Aerodrome]

clan-surrendered .. the clan accepted ... I serve the fatherland.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Aerodrome

clan surrendered ... clan accepted ...

Nur-Tok-Klan?

[Civil]

David Copperfield is drinking with the customs officer.
And in a fit of frankness he says to him:
- Do you want me to show you a trick?
- Come on!
- Do you see that carriage?
- Yes.
Copperfield:
- Hop ... - no carriage.
Customs officer:
- Do you want me to show you a trick? Do you see this stew with stew?
- Yes.
- Hop (breathes on the personal seal and slaps it into the declaration) ... - green peas.

But seriously, searches at customs officers always bring sad, but very monetary results.

[paul3390]

On the fourth day, Vigilant Falcon noticed .... You need to - they are stealing !! What an amazing discovery ..

[Flooding]

Quote: paul3390

On the fourth day, Vigilant Falcon noticed .... You need to - they are stealing !!

to bring thieves to clean water and start business on "big" people - this is not for you to produce comments, crunching a French bun

everything is wrong for them
decided to take bureaucratic crooks into circulation - too bad!
it was good only when the smoke stood over Alma-Ata
that's when the local discontent were happy!

[paul3390]

To praise the beloved guarantor and his amazing wisdom is also not necessary for a great mind .. Or, say, rivet all sorts of nonsense about the voluptuous unity of workers and bourgeois in close alliance ..

[Flooding]

Quote: paul3390

Praising the beloved guarantor and his amazing wisdom is also not a great mind.

yes, the news is about this

"He lies with this name
and with this name it rises "
and sitting on the toilet seat, the name of Putin recalls

[9PA]

Apparently, Nazarbayev will be shaken on the lave

[fruc]

Tokayev: a fund "To the People of Kazakhstan" is being created in the republic, which urgently needs sponsors ...

Who will voluntarily bring money to the fund, however?

[Anatole Klim]

Quote: frruc

Who will voluntarily bring money to the fund, however?

Can be forced, there would be political will

[fruc]

I have no doubts about these potential sponsors the Fund and the people of Kazakhstan.

[Snail N9]

Hmm .. I remember the EU also reported that the statistics imported from the Russian Federation to the EU with the Russian statistics for the same by tens of percent, and for some items almost doubled. I think if you look at the statistics of export from the Russian Federation to China and Japan, then there will be something similar ... And already, scams with VAT refunds are not mentioned ...

[bashkir]

A very interesting expression. Funny, honestly!
Are you personally against Tokayev? Or His clan? Or are you a systemic oppositionist? What is your opposition platform? Or did you just fart? For fun? Because you heard something there?

[rocket757]

"Discrepancies between customs statistics of Kazakhstan and China amount to billions of US dollars": Tokayev instructed to restore order on the border with China

Eka is unprecedented ... in the same place, "ours", they sat down well and stuck to the streams. To pick off such a thing is difficult and DANGEROUS !!!

[Asad]

They will knock out some, appoint their own, no better.

[rocket757]

Also an option ... nothing new and this will not be.
We can say that this is the world, but it does not inspire in any way.
By the way, who can be cited as an example ..... Singapore again, during the reign of Lee Kun Yew!

[Asad]

I agree, when I planted my friends, then I was able to put things in order.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Tokayev drew the attention of law enforcement officers to some "untouchable operators", instructing the General Prosecutor's Office to conduct a comprehensive check.

And who did it, Ludwig Aristarkhovich?
And no one is in a dream!

[NDR-791]

Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi

And no one is in a dream!

Well, how is nobody?

The real mess going on there is well known.

There are too many "friends", it is necessary to thin out. For thinned

in the republic a fund "To the People of Kazakhstan" is being created, which urgently needs sponsors.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Meanwhile, Kassym-Jomart Tokayev urged wealthy citizens of Kazakhstan to start sharing their income with a less wealthy stratum of the country's population. According to him, a fund "To the People of Kazakhstan" is being created in the republic, which urgently needs sponsors. The government has been tasked with determining the range of companies and simply rich individuals who will make annual contributions to the fund.

Yeah. And all the Kazakh billionaires ..., in a single impulse ..., from the whole and very pure soul ... returned all the loot to the people ... from all offshore companies !!!
Comrade Tokayev, start with yourself first! And remove the constitutional immunity from Nazarbayev and his family!

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi

Yeah. And all the Kazakh billionaires ..., in a single impulse ..., from the whole and very pure soul ... returned all the loot to the people ... from all offshore companies !!!

Well, of course, they won't give it up, but they can force them to share, especially since there has already been a redistribution of the market and spheres of influence in the republic itself, and those who were "untouchable" are now in other positions ... but in general, it is normal practice for Asia. In China, it has already been tested, and billionaires / businessmen are now "voluntarily" making deductions in favor of the authorities and the people .... and if you don't get too impudent, then the people will fall too.

[Obi-Wan Kenobi]

Well, of course, they will not give everything, but they can force to share

No. They will not be able to.
Only the billionaire will remain in the country during such events.
Have you seen many idiot billionaires, even on TV?

[Serge-667]

Strictly speaking, before the Law, immunity should not be in principle. But this general practice has got it.

[tech3030]

Putin then does not call on ours, he understands what a farce it will turn out!

[vargo]

And remove the constitutional immunity from Nazarbayev and his loved ones

They may still be removed from relatives, but they will not be removed from Nazarbayev, that's for sure. At least in a calm country. The point is trite that former presidents should not be accountable to every citizen. After all, measures are sometimes unpopular but necessary for the life of the country. But the supreme governing body or legislative body, in theory, could be endowed with the possibility of filing cases against former presidents in court, by the majority of legislators. But even then it will be with a bunch of all sorts of conditions.
The thing is that the presidents have all the information, and they will be protected until their last breath, this is like a guarantee of silence, and somewhere at the same time, the necessary experience in business. Nevertheless, the practice of involving former presidents in matters where the experience of the state is important is very wide. management. And this is just the tip of the iceberg.
It is clear that in this case it is difficult to present at least somehow for the plundering of the country or for fraud. But the other extreme can also backfire. Here either shoot immediately after, or life-long management then) Then let's return to tsarism, when power changed only through the death of its predecessor.
Well, it’s already borne me, I think I’ve conveyed the main idea)

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: vargo

The point is trite that former presidents should not be accountable to every citizen.

The point is trite that, say, the Constitution of the Russian Federation guarantees universal equality. And according to this very constitution, the president and the last bum have equal rights and responsibilities. And what kind of guarantees to individuals ... Laponka, do you remember when the estates were abolished in Russia, with their privileges?

Quote: vargo

But the other extreme can also backfire.

In South Korea, for example, there is such a national hobby. Landing of the former guarantors. And nothing. How do they live. And better than us, which is typical.

[Woodman]

Quote: Lannan Shi

In South Korea, for example, there is such a national hobby. Landing of the former guarantors. And nothing. How do they live. And better than us, which is typical.

And in France and Germany there is no such hobby. And that characteristically they live no worse than in South Korea.

[Vita vko]

Quote: Obi Wan Kenobi

And remove the constitutional immunity from Nazarbayev and his family!

To do this, it is not enough to destroy one monument to Nazarbayev

[center] [thumb]
Almost half of the entire economy of Kazakhstan is tied to the clans of the Nazarbayev oligarchs. This is not counting real estate abroad, including in London, Turkey, the United Arab Emirates, China. You will be tortured to search not only for money, but also for the oligarchs themselves, while the economy will simply be paralyzed. International courts will stupidly overwhelm with complaints.
Here you need to act more subtly and systematically. And to start with polygraphs with questions about corruption of everyone who, in one way or another, deals with issues of security, politics and finance, including deputies.

[9PA]

And he started. I felt the strength and started quite actively. Nazarbakhu Shas will be halved so normally

[Serge-667]

And how are we? Is the border with China still working?

[Asad]

I don’t know how border crossings are, but containers with office equipment come to our company.

[NDR-791]

Quote: Serge-667

And what about us?

Shhh ... And for US it is not yet "generally known", therefore it is not yet time to speak out loud, comrade (c)

[ViacheslavS]

According to a friend who carries shoes and clothes from China, now the flow of smuggling has greatly decreased, all kinds of chips, etc., have been introduced, and if he himself admitted that 10 years ago he imported shoes in gray in large volumes, now everything is official.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: ViacheslavS

10 years ago, he imported shoes in gray in large volumes, now everything is officially lucky.

Duc, now each pair of shoes has an individual QR-code, which is verified by the "Honest Sign". With clothes the same theme, but not for the whole assortment yet.

[rotmistr60]

Cars are not searched, taxes and duties are not paid

They are paid, but not to the state. After the latest events, it is simply necessary to shake up all the power, law enforcement and customs structures. Then taxes will go to the treasury and the security forces will not surrender to the scumbags by order from the top.

[Morglenn]

That is, they knew about the mess since at least 2017, but decided to start doing at least something only now, when they were almost dared? This is a coincidence. Moreover, they themselves refute the thesis that revolutions are evil and they only lead to chaos. The events of the last week showed that the authorities begin to stir only when the people rears up. It is useless to ask, beg, ask to write any petitions.

[yuriy55]

Meanwhile, Kassym-Jomart Tokayev urged wealthy citizens of Kazakhstan to start sharing their income with a less wealthy stratum of the country's population.

You can, of course, increase the personal income tax for those who earn big money by 2%, or you can:
Consider the main offenses that are committed by citizens of the PRC:

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The tax return was not filed on time. In this case, a fine of up to RMB 2 is possible. This amount can be increased to 10 thousand in the presence of aggravating circumstances.
Late payment. If a citizen has not paid taxes to the PRC within the prescribed period, an appropriate order is sent to him. If you ignore it, debts are collected compulsorily with a fine of up to 500% of the total amount owed.
Refusal to provide the required documentation. To confirm the data of the declaration, the tax authorities may require the citizen to provide additional documents. In case of refusal, the taxpayer risks receiving a fine of up to 2 yuan renminbi.
Tax evasion in the PRC... It is considered a criminal offense. With a small amount of debt, it is possible to bring the debtor to administrative responsibility with compulsory collection of funds and a fine of up to 500% of the debt amount.
Counteraction to the payment of taxes already equated to criminal offenses. The citizen pays the debt forcibly. The amount of the fine ranges from 100 to 500% of the amount owed.

[your1970]

Quote: yuriy55

Tax evasion in the PRC. It is considered a criminal offense. With a small amount of debt, it is possible to bring the debtor to administrative responsibility with compulsory collection of funds and a fine of up to 500% of the debt amount.
Opposition to the payment of taxes is already equated with criminal offenses.

For these articles, 3/4 of our population can be safely imprisoned ...
Renting out apartments, taxi drivers, owners of their own trucks, small agricultural producers (up to 500 hectares - we have, for example, about 1200 people in the area) - they pay tax on land as much ... 6 rubles 70 kopecks per hectare !!!
and a bunch of people who do not pay taxes ...
Naturally, they do not pay any personal income tax ...
The tax department has been further optimized to the point that there are 5 departments left in 34 districts of the region. Now, even in theory, they will not be able to check all this mass ...

So for us, these articles are not applicable even in theory.

[d1975]

Not my opinion. But, the state does not exist without taxes. About the tax it is horror. I sued and won, the prosecutor's office helped the assistant prosecutor just went crazy and said that I was lucky. The court won, but the money was given only in 3 years, and the rest have not been since 2002. This is in our Kuban. The tax office is 60 km away from me. This is fine ? And taxes just need to be paid to everyone, but the scale should be different. Especially for the rich and withdrawing money over the hill.

[yuriy55]

Quote: d1975

Especially for the rich and withdrawing money over the hill.

I also think so. Personal income tax must have a progressive scale. Sorry, but an increase of 2% (up to 15%) in personal income tax for persons with an income of 5 rubles a year is a cynical and vile mockery. To earn that kind of money with the prescribed minimum wage of 000 rubles, you need to work for almost 000 (!!!) years. This is fine?
Who can I turn to today to explain how (more precisely, how long) a person can live on 13 rubles a month?
What does the registration of companies in offshore companies mean? Who benefits from this?
==========
But we have an "immutable" opinion that counting other people's money is a grave sin ...
Is not paying decent wages a universally recognized achievement?
It is the tax system that is designed to regulate issues of social justice. But who will call her? Those who were specially appointed to pass the necessary laws?
Yeah !!! Now they will leave everything and will live on five minimum wages ...

[your1970]

Quote: d1975

Especially for the rich and outgoing money over the hill

Will it be considered the rich my neighbor has a Kamaz registered in the 05 region and official unemployed with 1993 of the year?
In 2019, he bought his mother-in-law an apartment in Bulgaria on the first line in a small town ...
I repeat - LEGALLY he is unemployed and poor (receives all benefits and subsidies)
The fact that he hasn't paid taxes since 1993 is not even funny ...

[d1975]

There are special services for this, they receive a salary for this. I also have three cars in my family and one house, which I can hardly finish building. And in fact, it was from the parents, the other, too, but they formalized it right away because then they issued it as a madhouse. Old people live and let them live for a hundred years. They are different taxes.

[Sergey M. Karasev]

I wonder how tax evasion is different from tax prevention? Is opposition to tax payments the refusal of tax authorities to accept taxes?

[your1970]

Quote: Sergey Karasev

I wonder how tax evasion is different from tax prevention? Is opposition to tax payments the refusal of tax authorities to accept taxes?

Evading payment is simply not paying on time and in full.
Counteraction - for example, this is the registration of Kamaz for a deceased in the 05 region ...

[Sergey M. Karasev]

Thank you for the clarification.

[prior]

Cars are not searched, taxes and duties are not paid

Kazakhstan is a good country, and Russia is the best ...
on the withdrawal of foreign currency.

[APASUS]

It is not clear where Nazarbayev is and what is wrong with him. It looks like the "People of Kazakhstan" will just get the property of the Elbasy, too much inhabited him. I do not think that Tokayev will change the whole scheme, but they will rob!

[Knizhnik]

"Who did that?" As at one time Gorbachev, "I did not know", so perhaps

[Ruby]

A bunch of cargoes go through Kazakhstan in transit to Russia. Go to Gardener, Yuzhny bus station, ATC Moscow. There, on each post, there are contacts of different chaynakargo. They will bring anything from China for three kopecks. That there is someone who pays some taxes? For the contingent found there, VAT, duty and other taxes are something akin to the theory of relativity. The same unnecessary and incomprehensible :)
In general, it is interesting to look at the customs statistics of Russia and China. I don’t think that we are so different from the Kazakhs there.

[your1970]

Quote: Yakut

I don’t think that we are so different from the Kazakhs there.

The cargo enters Kazakhstan and for the money on it NOT open transit. All ...
Since the Customs Union has no customs for 10 years at the border of the RK-RF, it is almost impossible to catch this car ...
FTS mobile groups, God forbid, if 1-2% catch such cars. If the car has Kazakh documents for the cargo, do it with it NOTHING Alas ...

[nobody75]

the largest cryptocurrencies are also nearby. The use of cryptocurrencies and allows you to bypass taxes ...
Sincerely

[Two]

I remember in 2020 the energy customs officer in the Urals only accumulated 18 tons of gold! Well, several hundred lemons with different papers! So ours, too, do not suffer from the cut of the eyes and the steepness of the cheekbones!

[your1970]

Yeah ... customs are changing - only 18 tons of gold remains ...
Long ago that fake was gutted ...

[alystan]

Well, ElBasy, it looks like the nephews and daughters will have to restrain their appetite. Even under him, the insatiable, in 2017, the discrepancy in statistical data on trade between countries was quite a big difference. When Beijing announced a 46% increase in trade turnover, Kazakhstani customs modestly showed only 30% (?)

At a parliamentary meeting, Tokayev set the task of quickly sorting out the situation on the border between Kazakhstan and China, where, according to him, a "real mess" is going on, stating that the discrepancies in customs statistics of Kazakhstan and China amount to "billions of US dollars" reforms.

Tokayev drew the attention of law enforcement officers to some "untouchable operators", instructing the General Prosecutor's Office to conduct a comprehensive check. The Ministry of Finance and the Financial Monitoring Agency should join the prosecutor's office.

And the next moment is very encouraging, maybe the Kazakhstani crisis, and in this aspect, will become an example for other states.

Kassym-Jomart Tokayev urged wealthy citizens of Kazakhstan to start sharing their income with the less wealthy stratum of the country's population. According to him, a fund "To the People of Kazakhstan" is being created in the republic, which urgently needs sponsors. The government has been tasked with determining the range of companies and simply rich individuals who will make annual contributions to the fund.

Tokayev stressed that in Kazakhstan during Nazarbayev's rule there were a lot of people who were rich even by world standards, and now the time has come to help the people on a "systematic basis."

The main thing for Tokayev is to keep his spouse and children away from this Fund. And so everything seems to be correct, if you decided to seriously take up putting things in order in the house, then as they say - "Good luck and good luck!"

[fa2998]

Quote: Aleksandr21

billionaires / businessmen now "voluntarily" make deductions in favor of the authorities and the people .... and if you don't get too impudent, then the people will fall.

In normal countries this is called a PROGRESSIVE TAX, the more you get, the more you give. And no voluntariness, you can run into a jail and a fine.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Motorist

why on earth is an educated hardworking handy citizen

Did I understand correctly that you call people like Abramovich, Potanin, Khodorkovsky, Berezovsky "a hard-working handy citizen"?

[Motorist]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Did I understand correctly

Misunderstood. I am for socialism: from each according to his ability, to each according to his work. And for the distribution of profits between workers in the production / enterprise (the so-called "zero profit").

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Motorist

Misunderstood.

Then why did the progressive tax not please you? You just have to take it from super profits.

[Motorist]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Then why did the progressive tax not please you? You just have to take it from super profits.

Why should an engineer pay more for a janitor? Where is the logic? And if I have a car repair shop and 10 people work - is it super profits? I'm talking about that.

And Abramovich companions are atypical representatives of the people. If it is acquired by criminal means, it must be proved and expropriated, and not "frightened" with taxes. But in law!

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Motorist

Why should an engineer pay more for a janitor? Where is the logic? And if I have a car repair shop and 10 people work - is it super profits? I'm talking about that.

Well, your auto repair shop clearly does not pull in excess of income.))))

Quote: Motorist

And Abramovich companions are atypical representatives of the people. If it is acquired by criminal means, it must be proved and expropriated, and not "frightened" with taxes. But according to the law!

This action is impossible, because this is their state, they are served by the army, police, courts, etc. Not to them personally, of course, but to their class.

[p0pulivox]

Quote: prior

Cars are not searched, taxes and duties are not paid

Kazakhstan is a good country, and Russia is the best ...
on the withdrawal of foreign currency.

Not only. There were reports that the discrepancies in the data of the Russian customs and the customs of the states with whom foreign trade is carried out are similar to the Kazakh ...

[Mikhail3]

For a while, the situation is unique. What usually happens in a coup? The bread places of the old team are being passed on to the new one. Otherwise, the new team will tear the main ringleader to shreds. Even Stalin handed out mansions and money (what can we hide), although many of these mansions later came out with their throats. And here...
The stability of the current president is ensured by the CSTO troops. Even if you turn the whole new team inside out, the throne will not shake. It’s not the Americans to call, who immediately begin to snoop into the pockets of the new guarantor, shaking out everything that he cut off from the old team in the revolution.
In general, it is quite amusing. What will Tokayev do with the billions he is now confiscating? The situation, I repeat, is unique ...

[Iron]

On March 20, 2019, Kassym-Jomart Tokayev took the oath and took office as President of Kazakhstan.

Did he spend so much time preparing or what? And what prevented you from taking on customs before? The old man didn’t allow? Or is it just that the people will not understand now?

[Free wind]

Something kassym is sitting under the EU flag.