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"We have no terrorists": Bishkek claims that the militants came to Kazakhstan not from Kyrgyzstan

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Bishkek claims that the militants did not come to Kazakhstan from Kyrgyzstan. None of them crossed the Kyrgyz-Kazakh border.


This statement was made to journalists by the head of the State Committee for National Security of the Republic of Kyrgyzstan Kamchybek Tashiev.

We have no terrorists

- said a high-ranking Kyrgyz official.

At the same time, he added that if radicals appear in his country, strict measures will be taken against them in accordance with the legislation of Kyrgyzstan.

Tashiev does not deny that there are Kyrgyz citizens among the persons detained by law enforcement officers of Kazakhstan, but he has not received any official messages from the neighboring state of Bishkek on this matter and does not know specific names. The head of the State Committee for National Security does not exclude that they did not take any part in the riots and were detained by mistake.

Among them there may be those who hesitated

- suggested Tashiev.

He assured journalists that the unrest in Kazakhstan does not threaten Kyrgyzstan, since all the necessary measures have been taken to ensure security.

Earlier, a citizen of Kyrgyzstan was shown on one of the Kazakh TV channels, who said that he agreed to participate in protest actions for the promised $ 200. Jazz musician Vikram Ruzakhunov was identified in the "guest" who arrived from the neighboring country.

The day before, information came from Kazakhstan about a clash southwest of Alma-Ata, in which a group of armed men took part, trying to break through the border into Kyrgyzstan.
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  1. vervolk
    vervolk 9 January 2022 16: 13
    +12
    how familiar it all is. typical nomenclature excuses. "this is not from our area"
    1. 210ox
      210ox 9 January 2022 16: 31
      +2
      But what a coat he has
      1. Aviator_
        Aviator_ 9 January 2022 17: 18
        +3
        But what a coat he has

        Almost like a Pasha-Mercedes.
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 9 January 2022 23: 00
          0
          Quote: Aviator_
          But what a coat he has

          Almost like a Pasha-Mercedes.

          Although Pasha is (I don’t know what to call it), his cap is statutory, in other words - standard. I have the same on the shelf. request
          1. Aviator_
            Aviator_ 9 January 2022 23: 07
            +4
            So this Kirghiz-Kaisak (as they were called until 1917), too, I suppose wears everything according to its charter.
            1. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 9 January 2022 23: 16
              +2
              Quote: Aviator_
              So this Kirghiz-Kaisak (as they were called until 1917), too, I suppose wears everything according to its charter.

              But this eagle has a "noble" cap laughing
      2. alystan
        alystan 9 January 2022 18: 29
        +12
        But Shoigu in the collection also has one like that of the White Guards.
        But both of them are united by the fact that neither of them served in the army.
      3. Saladine
        Saladine 10 January 2022 06: 09
        -1
        This is the overbrain
    2. Anachoret
      Anachoret 9 January 2022 16: 46
      +3
      They are not bandits or terrorists) they are "noble soldiers of fortune")))
      1. The comment was deleted.
        1. Dart2027
          Dart2027 9 January 2022 18: 10
          +2
          Quote: Pacifist_Leopold
          Can't you think a little differently? The Kazakh authorities shot at
          bandits and terrorists, among whom there could well be citizens of Kyrgyzstan, but the government of Kyrgyzstan does not want to have anything to do with them.
          1. Vladimir Mashkov
            Vladimir Mashkov 9 January 2022 19: 46
            +2
            Perhaps there are no terrorists in Kyrgyzstan ... Perhaps they came to Kazakhstan and not from Kyrgyzstan ... So far there is no confirmation of this - it is too early to talk about it. smile
            1. Dart2027
              Dart2027 9 January 2022 20: 23
              0
              Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
              Perhaps there are no terrorists in Kyrgyzstan ...

              Maybe not. But in Kazakhstan they are fighting precisely against terrorists.
              1. Vladimir Mashkov
                Vladimir Mashkov 9 January 2022 20: 35
                0
                Quote: Dart2027
                Maybe not. But in Kazakhstan they are fighting precisely against terrorists.

                ... and it will soon become clear where they are from. laughing
                1. Dart2027
                  Dart2027 9 January 2022 21: 12
                  +1
                  Where the ears grow from is so clear, but cannon fodder can be anything.
        2. Scoun
          Scoun 9 January 2022 18: 41
          +1
          Quote: Pacifist_Leopold
          Can't you think a little differently? The authorities of Kazakhstan fired at their people, out of cowardice they invited the CSTO troops. And now ordinary citizens of the neighboring country are being caught in all yards and forced to take the blame. But then they screwed up, squeezed out "recognition" from a well-known jazzman in the region, who these $ 200 per hour

          Of course not, this one shouted - from the branches,
          Giraffe is big, he knows better.
          Quote: vervolk
          how familiar it all is.

          And that's it, the guilty ones have been found and appointed, it is no longer necessary to understand the varieties of "rice".
        3. fruc
          fruc 9 January 2022 19: 02
          0
          Pacifist_Leopold
          In general, it is clear that they are looking for scapegoats.

          About 4000 people were detained and continue to detain, and when the 200s are taken out of the mountains, it will be clear where the guest performers come from. I think there is a wide geography there.
      2. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 9 January 2022 21: 03
        -1
        Yep [media = https: //youtu.be/DOMKSDfIdVU? T = 40]
    3. Vasyan1971
      Vasyan1971 9 January 2022 16: 57
      -2
      Quote: vervolk
      how familiar it all is.

      Yes.
      1. dauria
        dauria 9 January 2022 17: 46
        +19
        Yes.


        Stupid joke, by the way. In addition, it gives out the age of those repeating it. It is worth telling how and why it arose. There was the first "teleconference" at the very end of the 80s. On the other side, the experienced presenters have become skilled, and on our side - ... On our side, naive honest amateurs. There really was no "sex" in the USSR. More precisely, this word
        was not used in the sense of "sexual intercourse". It was synonymous with modern "strip bar", "chicks in the sauna", "adult films". In the USSR, "sex" was not even used for its direct meaning - "sex". This now does not hurt anyone's ears to "have sex."
        Now imagine modern presenters, showmen, humorists using the exact formulations of the Soviet era, "sexual intercourse", "sexual intercourse" instead of smooth "sex".
        This is how this supposed joke was born from the scanty English language, where there is a board-board, and a keyboard-board, and a boat-board and stupid translators.
        And in the USSR there really was no "security", "managers" and "sex". And there was a watchman, a warehouse manager and sexual intercourse.
        1. Vasyan1971
          Vasyan1971 9 January 2022 17: 57
          0
          Quote: dauria
          The stupidest joke

          I know it. And in this case, I'm not talking about the presence or absence of a cupcake, but about the attitude to the statement from Bishkek: there are no terrorists there, just as there was no sex in the USSR. This sarcasm is called ... request
        2. fruc
          fruc 9 January 2022 19: 08
          +1
          It was in 1986. Teleconference Leningrad-Seattle:
        3. venik
          venik 9 January 2022 19: 31
          +4
          Quote: dauria
          On the other side, the experienced presenters have become skilled, and on our side - ... On our side, naive honest amateurs.

          =======
          Complete nonsense! I watched this particular "teleconference" and remembered (just because of this anecdotal incident)! Maybe on their part there was a certain number of "savvy" journalists present in the hall (although this was not strongly felt on the questions), but from our side there were also a number of "ideologically-grounded comrades" in the hall ... It's just that the Americans looked more relaxed and with this very “relaxedness” (bordering on tactlessness ”) they“ gave out on the mountain ”everything that came to mind! sex and everything connected with it in the media? "To which the famous response of one" ideologically-grounded durochki "followed, which caused a fit of laughter in a Moscow studio and bewilderment of the Americans! "teleconference" in Moscow - commented: "Sex, that is! There is no advertising!"
          ------
          Quote: dauria
          In addition, it gives out the age of those repeating it.

          ======
          And thank God! Should I be ashamed or what? "My years are my wealth!" hi
        4. Saladine
          Saladine 11 January 2022 08: 01
          0
          Ivanova herself in 2004 in an interview with the newspaper "Komsomolskaya Pravda" [4] outlined an alternative version of the history of the origin of this phrase:
          In general, a teleconference began, and one American woman says: because of the war in Afghanistan, you should stop having sex with your men altogether - then they will not go to war. And he pokes his finger all the time. I answered her: there is no sex in the USSR, but there is love. And you, too, did not stop sleeping with your men during the Vietnam War.

          But everyone remembered only the beginning of the phrase. What am I wrong? In our country, the word "sex" was really almost indecent. We have never had sex, but love. This is what I meant.
          The fact that Ivanova ended the phrase with the words “We have love” was publicly confirmed by the director of the teleconference Vladimir Mukusev [5]:
          ... Lyudmila said: “We have no sex, and we are categorically against it,” - after which laughter and applause burst out in both studios and drowned out the end of the phrase: “We have love”.
    4. SSR
      SSR 9 January 2022 18: 25
      +2
      Quote: vervolk
      how familiar it all is. typical nomenclature excuses. "this is not from our area"

      .... another comment is nothing.
      Throwing in, slogan, the main thing is the first.
      So what about the fact that the "ringleaders ran to the lair"?
      The instigators are shepherds or?

      Chatterbox.
      Like a bazaar grandmother, just to blurt out loud.
      1. Scoun
        Scoun 9 January 2022 18: 44
        -3
        Quote: SSR
        So what about the fact that the "ringleaders ran to the lair"?
        The instigators are shepherds or?
        Chatterbox.
        Like a bazaar grandmother, just to blurt out loud.

        Are you hoping for a constructive response / dialogue? laughing
        The main thing is a sonorous throw-in without reasoning.
        - and so it will do! (C) perto.
        1. SSR
          SSR 9 January 2022 19: 38
          0
          Quote: Scoun
          Are you hoping for a constructive response / dialogue?

          On the forum, among hundreds and hundreds of comments, you can always find those that make you, at least, think.
      2. vervolk
        vervolk 9 January 2022 20: 49
        -4
        what rudeness in communication flooded? dear who brought you up like that? your dad and mom? teachers? clan, tribe nation? who are you so rude and uncivilized ?! tell me rather a representative of what uncivilized nation?
  2. Aerodrome
    Aerodrome 9 January 2022 16: 16
    +15
    I was in general a figure of 20 militants, shocked .... you can capture the country with experienced then, and the airfield and at all, ugh. something is lying to us somewhere.
    1. faiver
      faiver 9 January 2022 16: 25
      0
      it depends on which country, Kazakhstan tea is not Estonia ...
    2. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 9 January 2022 16: 28
      +4
      For the 2 million city of Alma Ata, 20000 militants will not be enough ... but there are also other cities where they fought ...
      So far, the picture with the militants is not clear ... who, where, in what quantity, with what training? ... Complete obscurity and fog.
      1. alexmach
        alexmach 9 January 2022 16: 54
        +4
        For the 2 million city of Alma Ata, 20000 militants will not be enough ... but there are also other cities where they fought ...

        Not enough, especially in the presence of protests, marauders and just idiots who took to the streets. A couple of hundred, well, up to a thousand with a clear leadership will be behind the eyes.
      2. bar
        bar 9 January 2022 17: 00
        +6
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        So far, the picture with the militants is not clear ... who, where, in what quantity, with what training?

        It seems that everything has been explained long ago. Their own militants, homegrown. And they were preparing in their own camps, under the control of their own KNB, the head of which has already seemed to be arrested. Nothing new, the usual "dispute between business entities" with local flavor and traitors.
      3. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 9 January 2022 17: 02
        0
        Yours faithfully .. Lyokha, 2 Lyama this, taking into account (all), we will discard more housewives and passive ones - the figure will decrease several times, minus babies, minus those who have joined the other side ... you know what I mean? statistics ... she's so ... statistics.
        1. mat-vey
          mat-vey 9 January 2022 17: 12
          +3
          Again, the Chief Police Officer of Almaty, Kanat Taymerdenov, reported how many people work in the City Police Department today, Almaty.tv reports.

          “We have 6040 people on the staff of the City Department. Of these, 5597 are certified personnel, the rest are administrative civil servants.

          Every day, in addition to duty squads, 1500 police officers intercede in 550 patrol stations to protect public order. We are missing 437 district police officers, divided by per capita.
          This is the "city of two million" ..
      4. paul3390
        paul3390 9 January 2022 17: 22
        +2
        2 militants will not be enough for the city of Alma Ata with its population of 20000 million

        Come on - judging by the official data of American intelligence - there were about the same number of barmalees in all of Iraq and Syria .. And there were more people, and the armies were more abrupt. However - what a rustle was brought about by the evon. I think - if there were really two divisions in Kazakhstan - no CSTO would have time to help the bayam. Especially against the background of a strange categorical reluctance of local security officials to actively oppose.
        1. Dart2027
          Dart2027 9 January 2022 18: 12
          -3
          Quote: paul3390
          according to the official data of the American intelligence

          You can not read further.
      5. SSR
        SSR 9 January 2022 18: 33
        0
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        For the 2 million city of Alma Ata, 20000 militants will not be enough ...

        But even if we discard the comrade’s demands for proofs with severed heads, the video and photo facts of the burnt, including social technology, are discouraging.
        Plus a video, where the attacker kicks the shield, and behind him two or three pull the soldier out of the gap.
        These are not simple Protestants.
    3. Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Sidor Amenpodestovich 9 January 2022 16: 30
      +1
      Quote: Aerodrome
      something is lying to us somewhere.

      1. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 9 January 2022 17: 16
        0
        and I mean the same "information" - it is ... how to apply.
    4. mat-vey
      mat-vey 9 January 2022 16: 35
      +4
      Quote: Aerodrome
      I was shocked by the number of 20 fighters.

      But somehow it sounds too impressive against the background of an army under 100 ..
    5. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 9 January 2022 16: 38
      -14
      Where did you subtract such a figure of 20000? On VO infa that about 3000 terrorists were detained. And that's good. from the corrupt ones only problems. Judas.
      1. mat-vey
        mat-vey 9 January 2022 16: 50
        +7
        Kazakh President Kassym-Zhomart Tokayev said there had been at least six waves of terrorist attacks in Almaty. He announced this on his Twitter page.

        “There were at least six waves of terrorist attacks in Almaty, their total number is 20,” he wrote.
        22:52, January 7, 2022. "Lenta.Ru"
        1. alexmach
          alexmach 9 January 2022 16: 56
          +11
          Well, so obviously he wrote down all the protesters and others who took to the streets as terrorists.
          1. mat-vey
            mat-vey 9 January 2022 17: 20
            +3
            Quote: alexmach
            Well, so obviously he wrote down all the protesters and others who took to the streets as terrorists.

            A politician should lie beautifully ... and here ... As the saying goes - "even the horses are laughing" ...
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 9 January 2022 17: 52
              +2
              Do not know. We are laughing with you. And someone may have already described themselves from fear. East all the same. 6000 are rumored to have already been arrested. There are still 14 ...
              1. mat-vey
                mat-vey 9 January 2022 18: 03
                +1
                Quote: alexmach
                There are still 14 ...

                Like in "The Marriage of Figaro" ... there is no comma - it will be ... (I can not vouch for the accuracy at all)
        2. man
          man 9 January 2022 17: 17
          0
          do you really believe him ???
        3. korabelnikoffevgeny
          korabelnikoffevgeny 9 January 2022 17: 41
          -2
          By the way, he deleted this tweet.
          1. mat-vey
            mat-vey 9 January 2022 17: 43
            0
            Quote: korabelnikoffevgeny
            By the way, he deleted this tweet.

            But smart people say - "the Internet remembers everything"
          2. alexmach
            alexmach 9 January 2022 17: 53
            +1
            By the way, he seemed to be announcing this out loud on TV, no?
            1. korabelnikoffevgeny
              korabelnikoffevgeny 9 January 2022 17: 56
              -1
              Maybe on TV ... I read about twitter
      2. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 9 January 2022 17: 04
        0
        Quote: Alexander 3
        Where did you subtract such a figure of 20000?

        letters were written everywhere.
        1. man
          man 9 January 2022 17: 18
          -3
          I have it written on the barn, and there is firewood!
    6. SKVichyakow
      SKVichyakow 9 January 2022 17: 00
      +5
      Quote: Aerodrome
      I was in general a figure of 20 militants, shocked .... you can capture the country with experienced then, and the airfield and at all, ugh. something is lying to us somewhere.

      Remember the robbery of Comrade Shpak's apartment, and his testimony.
      1. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 9 January 2022 17: 35
        -2
        Quote: SKVichyakow
        Quote: Aerodrome
        I was in general a figure of 20 militants, shocked .... you can capture the country with experienced then, and the airfield and at all, ugh. something is lying to us somewhere.

        Remember the robbery of Comrade Shpak's apartment, and his testimony.

        It's a pity for Shpak .. yes .. I have a "parasonok" VCR in my garage ... I would give Shpak for that ... or you ... it takes a place, Soviet galoshes have nowhere to put. and I will give a cigarette case, as a gift, aluminum, crumpled, there is also a "pamir" -2pcs. (the value increases hundreds of times.) my flask is still an army ... as a gift.
    7. wandlitz
      wandlitz 9 January 2022 17: 14
      0
      IMHO, the KNB knows the numbers, they themselves prepared and taught ...
    8. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 9 January 2022 17: 23
      -1
      Quote: Aerodrome
      something is lying to us somewhere.

      Yes, this is already clear to the fool. There are a lot of inconsistencies, the Pendos for some reason do not bother much about the introduction of troops, the embassy is evacuating, although in Ukraine, Kyrgyzstan, Armenia,
      The US embassy has served as a focal point, and there is not a single more serious leader of the protests. Tokayev removes posts about 20 thousand terrorists.
      Here's an interesting opinion -
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 9 January 2022 18: 13
        -2
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        For some reason, the Pendos do not bother much about the introduction of troops, the embassy is evacuating, although in Ukraine, Kyrgyzstan, Armenia,
        the U.S. embassy served as the focal point

        And what is left for them after the entry of Russian troops?
    9. yuriy55
      yuriy55 9 January 2022 18: 00
      +6
      Quote: Aerodrome
      something is lying to us somewhere.

      I know where? Remember, the guarantor made us a New Year's gift - he canceled the annual MOT for a personal car. I remember that someone then said that, they say, they were overjoyed early - now prices for OSAGO will be raised.
      Here he said the truth:
      Compulsory motor third party liability insurance has risen sharply in the Russian regions since January 9, writes Gazeta.Ru. Entered into force Central Bank instruction about the second large-scale change in regional coefficients in the history of OSAGO.
      In addition, the upper limit of the uniform for the whole country OSAGO tariff corridor increased by 10 percent, to 5980 rubles. It is from this amount that insurers will be able to calculate the base rate.

      This is how her name justifies ... this Elvira ...
  3. Gado
    Gado 9 January 2022 16: 24
    -5
    Earlier, a citizen of Kyrgyzstan was shown on one of the Kazakh TV channels, who said that he agreed to participate in protest actions for the promised $ 200

    The first "birds" flew, it's time to find out who, when and why paid.
    1. The comment was deleted.
    2. alexmach
      alexmach 9 January 2022 16: 58
      +5
      The first "birds" flew, it's time to find out who, when and why paid.

      This "birdie" clearly fell under the "noise" and for the company.
    3. Pacifist_Leopold
      Pacifist_Leopold 9 January 2022 17: 34
      +6
      Birzhan Chukin
      25 min ·
      The $ 200 Marauder and the Boozer is detained. But the detainees are not overwhelmed with musical knowledge. And there was a big mess - the marauder was immediately recognized. It turned out to be a famous pianist of Kyrgyzstan, composer, head of a musical orchestra, laureate of many international music competitions Vikram Ruzakhunov. (By the way, he is a very highly paid artist. And, if anyone is interested, he is a Uyghur by nationality). And he arrived in the city at the official invitation to tour.
      And how did the detainees know about this? They have an order-order: to show a different citizenship of the marauders, to move the arrows outside the outskirts. This is understandable to the point of complete transparency. (But even here at least minimal professionalism is required. Official negligence or flagrant incompetence is evident).
      Here are just a bobble out: the fellow majors do not know the pianists by sight. (If Yuri Bashmet or Denis Matsuev were on tour, they would be taken to the monkey house. Which of them knows Bashmet or Matsuev by sight?). It turns out that the city was attacked by Uyghur composers from Kyrgyzstan. So the reason was found.
      Reminds of a similar anecdotal case from the 90s. Then the Moscow police carried out a daily plan to detain "persons of Caucasian nationality." We saw leaving the subway with a similar appearance. Detained. He was ardently explaining something in his own language. But who will understand what he says there? They were taken to the monkey house, kept in a cage with drunks and drug addicts until morning without food and water.
      In the morning he was finally found. And a huge scandal erupted. The detained person of Caucasian nationality turned out to be a diplomat of the Turkish embassy. The scandal was at the level of foreign ministers.
      But how could the patrol sergeants know about this? The main thing for them is that it was “similar” and there was a “arrest plan”. So they detained me.
      If the composer was officially shown on TV as a marauder, now an equally official denial on TV should follow.
    4. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 9 January 2022 18: 43
      +2
      Quote: Gado
      it's time to find out who paid when and why.

      We have already found out. There, the authorities were on fire with the false mercenaries. They knocked out the testimony on the camera, but in real life there was a Kazakh musician. laughing
      1. Gado
        Gado 9 January 2022 21: 48
        0
        If the authorities are wrong, they will apologize and release. But I am 100% convinced that there are mercenaries and criminal elements there.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 9 January 2022 22: 07
          +1
          Musician Kyrgyz, I beg your pardon. Kyrgyzstan has already protested, but the Kazakh Interior Ministry continues to insist that this is a different person. That is, they rested.
  4. faiver
    faiver 9 January 2022 16: 26
    0
    "We have no terrorists"
    - I immediately remembered the famous "There is no sex in the USSR" ...
    1. paul3390
      paul3390 9 January 2022 16: 53
      +6
      To what extent does this new manner of distorting and pulling phrases out of context get enough ..
      Initially, what did you mean?

      ... In our TV advertising, everything revolves around sex. Do you have such TV commercials?
      Well, we have sex ... (chuckles) We don't have sex, and we are totally against it!

      The end of the phrase was drowned out by laughter and applause. After the audience laughed, one of the Soviet participants clarified:
      We have sex, we have no advertising!
      1. faiver
        faiver 9 January 2022 16: 57
        +3
        Yes, I remember this teleconference, but this phrase has been living its own life for a long time ... hi
        1. paul3390
          paul3390 9 January 2022 17: 11
          0
          Yes, the fact of the matter is that these fakes only the brains of people soar .. Distorting real events. Like Lenin's about cooks, Vyshinsky's about evidence, and so on and so on ..
      2. vervolk
        vervolk 9 January 2022 17: 03
        +1
        By the way, I was wondering, I read your post and wanted to "wipe your nose" climbed to look for the original source to prove that you are an apologist of the Soviet Union wrong and? it turned out that you are right hi but I clearly remember that then behind these giggles and screams there was another ending: "in the USSR there is no sex, but there is love and friendship." but YouTube says something else, about advertising. direct effect of some kind of mandela request
        1. paul3390
          paul3390 9 January 2022 17: 16
          +2
          The most interesting thing is that I remember a different ending! But here we are .. Getting old, or what? But this does not change the essence - initially it meant a completely different meaning than fake.
          1. vervolk
            vervolk 9 January 2022 17: 31
            -1
            wait, you also mean about love and friendship?
            1. paul3390
              paul3390 9 January 2022 17: 33
              0
              Well, yes. Interestingly - is this an induced false memory or already senile sclerosis? what wassat
              1. vervolk
                vervolk 9 January 2022 18: 14
                -1
                this is called the "mandela effect"
        2. man
          man 9 January 2022 17: 23
          +1
          Yeah, right from the language ... from the claudia they ripped off
        3. _Sergei_
          _Sergei_ 9 January 2022 17: 51
          +4
          We didn't have sex, but we had fertility
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 9 January 2022 18: 14
            +3
            Posner gave me a microphone - he walked around the podium - and I said: "There is no sex in the USSR - we have love," but this piece was then cut off.
            .
    2. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 9 January 2022 17: 59
      0
      Quote: faiver
      "We have no terrorists"
      - I immediately remembered the famous "There is no sex in the USSR" ...

      I mean bliatstava such an open..azh at the top was not.
  5. Avior
    Avior 9 January 2022 16: 28
    +3
    A difficult situation. The authorities of Kazakhstan must either indicate and provide details of which country was the foreign invasion of 20 thousand mercenaries, not a needle in a haystack, after all, as they stated, or admit that they fought with the people of Kazakhstan, and not with any mercenaries.
    And the choice is small. Russia, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan border on Kazakhstan.
    Kyrgyzstan has categorically disowned the alleged invasion from its territory, who will be blamed now?
    1. vervolk
      vervolk 9 January 2022 16: 49
      -2
      what are you? What kind of globe do you have? and that China does not border the Xinjiang Uyghur region? and Azerbaijan means Turkey through the Caspian Sea? and Iran?
      1. Avior
        Avior 9 January 2022 17: 32
        +1
        Let's see who is accused
    2. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 9 January 2022 16: 58
      -1
      There are definitely no Turkmen. I worked there and talked to people. Probably the most calm and submissive of Asians.
      And, in general, it will be difficult for Tokayev to explain later the figure of 20. Here, either show the corpses (in that amount?), Or the prisoners and the created ones.
      Well, or at least cadres of flight across the border - too, two divisions are not snuff of tobacco.
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 9 January 2022 17: 36
        +2
        I was surprised that Turkmen students studying in Russia are very critical and often mockingly speak about both the former president, who passed away, and the current head of their country.
      2. CommanderDIVA
        CommanderDIVA 9 January 2022 18: 13
        -2
        And who are the Turkmen-Turkomans who are pro-Turkish proxies who had the most direct relation to the war on the territory of Syria and Iraq?
      3. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 10 January 2022 00: 14
        0
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        And, in general, it will be difficult for Tokayev to explain later the figure of 20. Here, either show the corpses (in that amount?), Or the prisoners and the created ones.

        You are strange. Most of them drowned in the Caspian Sea, some fled to Afghanistan, they say life is getting better ...
    3. paul3390
      paul3390 9 January 2022 17: 00
      +7
      In addition, there are many interesting things. All these bandits didn't have any official protest leaders. No special symbolism. No organizations. No political requirements. There was practically no support from the West. No attempts to catch up with the mass character of the Maidan. Etc..

      A fundamental difference from the events in Ukraine or Belarus. There, everything happened exactly the opposite. And then - appeared like out of nothing, shit, and disappeared into nowhere. All this is strange - not a fig does not look like the accurses usually arranged by the State Department. They always bet on maximum publicity.
      1. vervolk
        vervolk 9 January 2022 17: 12
        -2
        a feeling that all the same blazed spontaneously. all the more so in this Zhanauzen ten years ago it already happened. and then, along the way, all interested players began to connect. and "sleeping" cells of ISIS and "tourists" from the Taliban and criminal gangs of the zhuzes and American agents and possibly pro-Turkish-Turkoman cells ... hence the large number of armed and aggressive groups, but at the same time the inconsistency of their actions with each other. and therefore not much from abroad - they are all local.
        1. paul3390
          paul3390 9 January 2022 17: 26
          0
          I agree - I have a similar point of view. It really began as a massive popular protest, and then a bunch of various participants immediately joined in. And from all sides.
          1. paul3390
            paul3390 9 January 2022 17: 29
            +3
            pro-Turkish-Turkoman cells

            I've always wondered - what kind of Pan-Turkut project? Yes - the language is similar, but put a Turk, an Azeri, a Kazakh and a Kirghiz next to each other - is that, like one people ?? Yes, you just have to look at the faces .. They even have different racial types.
            1. vervolk
              vervolk 9 January 2022 18: 15
              0
              Well, there is Pan-Slavism, although what is now in common between a Pole, a Russian, a Serb, a Greek and a Ukrainian
              1. paul3390
                paul3390 9 January 2022 18: 20
                +1
                But where is this Pan-Slavism ... It died at the beginning of the last century. But - we with Serbs, Poles and Ukrainians belong to at least one race! Many of us will easily pass for a representative of another Slavic people. Are you able to distinguish a Russian from a Pole by a photo? Me not. And let's say a Turk from a Kirghiz? That's the same ..
                1. vervolk
                  vervolk 9 January 2022 18: 36
                  -1
                  they have there "tu (y) romania" at the level of state policy. there is a mythology that type-modern Turkey is the heritage of the Seljuk tribes who came from somewhere in the territory of modern Turkmenistan. Well, of course, they claim that they are the strongest "hereditary" state, and everyone whom they consider to be the "Turkic" race should see them as a flagship. senior bart and defender. They dig very deeply, no smaller than the diggers of the Black Sea. for example, they believe that since the Yakuts once descended along the Siberian rivers from the southern steppes, they still remain Turks. Although, in my opinion, they have long been assimilated among the "forest" indigenous peoples of Siberia.
                  the Finno-Ugric peoples have something similar, who, under the patronage of Finland, are beginning to "revive the national traditions" of the oppressed inhabitants of Mordovia and Cheremis. And also among the Latinos, they also have a "Bolivarian initiative" where all the peoples of South America are trying to gather in one heap according to the principle of mestizo or mulatto ...
      2. Gardamir
        Gardamir 9 January 2022 17: 24
        +6
        What does it matter to you? Why are these questions? Now Tokayev is the only one, almost elbasy. So said Nazarbayev, whom no one saw, like these 20 thousand.
        1. vervolk
          vervolk 9 January 2022 17: 33
          -1
          well now the next question. what is Tokae ready to go for the sake of rapprochement with the Russian Federation?
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 9 January 2022 17: 36
            +2
            It remains only to wait. Unless, of course, they show him something. Although the minimum that I would like is a reduction in rent.
      3. Suraikin.Aleksandr
        Suraikin.Aleksandr 9 January 2022 17: 26
        +6
        In my opinion, this is a typical violent riot, which is accompanied by robberies, murders of law enforcement officers who fell under the hot hand of rioters.

        The reason why the Russian media cover events in Kazakhstan in this way! Apparently lies in the similarity of the political systems of Russia and Kazakhstan! For many years, Nursultan Nazarbayev ruled in Kazakhstan, relying on the Nur Otan political party. The current president of Kazakhstan, Kasym Tokayev, until recently, was an openly formal figure!
        1. vervolk
          vervolk 9 January 2022 17: 43
          -3
          in here you are slightly mistaken. I think on the contrary, these are all childhood growing pains. It's just that the recent history of Russia is bad news for Belarusians, Uraisians and Kazakhs. From the moment of the collapse, they lived quietly and peacefully without social upheavals. In fact, they still had a conscientious alliance with a national bias. And Russia in 93 experienced a severe inoculation of authoritarianism. When Boris the alcoholic shot the people's parliament and established a tough authoritarianism. When the people who went to storm Ostankino were simply destroyed by special forces fire without sentimentality. When they were shooting at the white house. And then this author of tare young Russia was baptized with the blood of the hardest first Chechen dripping. At one point, it seemed that federalization would work against the state. Tatarstan was ready to calve if only Chechnya succeeded, the Ural and Siberian republics were created. Then there was a long period of indifference, the very people who, in the late 80s and early 90s, enthusiastically went to rallies and plunged into political disputes on buses, got over the brains of poverty and criminal revelry. You see, it is against the authorities that you can go to rallies and demand something for some kind of social justice, but what can you demand from the brothers in crimson jackets in Mercedes to the hard workers and grandmothers, pensioners? yes they are the people themselves. and the oligarchs are generally out of reach on their yachts in spain. And how then did they manage to get out of all this, how the generation of patriotic citizens grew up. how society was then somehow consolidated - I still do not understand myself, despite one of my formations - political. And so all this for the republics of the near abroad is only now coming.
      4. Dart2027
        Dart2027 9 January 2022 18: 18
        -2
        Quote: paul3390
        A fundamental difference from the events in Ukraine or Belarus.

        In Belarus, there was no opportunity to train fighters - Lukashenka crushed any activity of various kinds of NGOs in the bud.
        It looks like Ukraine, but if you recall Putin's recent statements, then the fact of Russia's intervention was quite predictable, so they decided to change tactics, relying on speed, and arrange a kind of blitzkrieg, and only then start a PR campaign.
    4. man
      man 9 January 2022 17: 27
      0
      Right now! Tokayev himself will speak and honestly admit that he came up with it!
    5. CommanderDIVA
      CommanderDIVA 9 January 2022 18: 10
      0
      Judge one-sidedly, you are considering only the land route of penetration of militants into Kazakhstan, a lot of people from Central Asia left for Syria and Iraq for permanent residence, which prevented them from returning to their country and becoming a member of the sleeping cell, according to our press center in Syria , if memory does not change immigrants from the post-Soviet republics in the ranks of Islamic fundamentalists there were about 40 people, not everyone found their own grave in the local sands
  6. Mikhail Sidorov
    Mikhail Sidorov 9 January 2022 16: 29
    +5
    they took no part in the riots and were detained by mistake.

    Among them there may be those who hesitated

    And did not manage to leave in time with .... in general. laughing
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      1. Avior
        Avior 9 January 2022 18: 25
        +3
        The $ 200 Marauder and the Boozer is detained.

        Moreover, he made a confession, publicly, on camera, with traces of beatings on his face.
        And now a reasonable question arises - when will other "confessions" be shown - can you trust them?
      2. Suraikin.Aleksandr
        Suraikin.Aleksandr 9 January 2022 20: 17
        +1
        Hence, another problem arises with a sufficiently high number of law enforcement officers, their low efficiency and professionalism, which the events in Kazakhstan have also shown quite well. And in our country, in fact, in the event of such events, this army of parasites will not be capable of anything. The bloated apparatus of law enforcement officers of all stripes is just self-deception.
  7. korabelnikoffevgeny
    korabelnikoffevgeny 9 January 2022 16: 31
    +5
    Yes, there were no terrorists ... the usual power struggle
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 9 January 2022 17: 27
      +3
      Why are you doing that? They killed all the intrigue, they will again start writing about Ukraine.
  8. Mikhail Sidorov
    Mikhail Sidorov 9 January 2022 16: 31
    +6
    He assured journalists that the unrest in Kazakhstan does not threaten Kyrgyzstan, since all the necessary measures have been taken to ensure security.

    Oh all measures laughing and to overthrow the president every 5 years is a tradition.
    1. faiver
      faiver 9 January 2022 16: 37
      +5
      this is instead of elections bully
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 9 January 2022 17: 08
        -2
        I have always been a supporter of the Novgorod Veche - they parted on two sides, and whoever stomped on someone's snout is right. Nice thing! And darling was taken away, and democracy was observed .. It would be nice to have such a custom in the Duma, and make broadcasts paid. True - it would be dishonest, from the EP the sovereigns are only used athletes. Apparently - they have some kind of special gift for managing the state ..
    2. paul3390
      paul3390 9 January 2022 17: 04
      -4
      Well - evon in Latin America, pronunciamento is generally a national sport ..
      1. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 9 January 2022 17: 39
        0
        Now, for some reason, the coups there have practically stopped, it has even become somehow uninteresting.)
  9. The popuas
    The popuas 9 January 2022 16: 33
    -6
    Jazz musician ... played on Kalash laughing ...
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  10. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 9 January 2022 16: 50
    +1
    Lost and didn't manage to escape?
  11. evgen1221
    evgen1221 9 January 2022 17: 02
    0
    We started otfutbolivatsya, who wants to be accused of importing. Agree that they themselves apparently poured from the moon.
    1. man
      man 9 January 2022 17: 30
      0
      usually they pour from Mars, nevertheless the god of war
    2. rocket757
      rocket757 9 January 2022 18: 09
      -1
      STUPID! The danger is so real, it can spread to everyone.
      Only by joint efforts can the situation be leveled out ... but on the offended, everything can fall even faster, don't go to the grandmother, and that's understandable.
      1. evgen1221
        evgen1221 9 January 2022 19: 52
        +1
        Well, first of all, not to fill the pockets of nobles of all levels in the civil service, but to serve the needs of this very population (occupiers). Then there will be no revolutions, and there will be enough small strikes and water cannons.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 9 January 2022 19: 56
          0
          Truths ... but, where does this happen, what would be so for the people, everything for the person?
  12. bar
    bar 9 January 2022 17: 11
    0
    The head of the State Committee for National Security of the Republic of Kyrgyzstan said
    We have no terrorists

    And the President of Kyrgyzstan wrote in the mordo book
    There are many of our working citizens in Kazakhstan. Perhaps among them there were those who could take part in the actions.

    Summarizing the above, we can conclude that there are no terrorists in Kyrgyzstan anymore, they dumped everything in Kazakhstan
  13. open
    open 9 January 2022 17: 17
    -1
    https://www.facebook.com/100002491125620/posts/4816752115084445/?d=n

    This is what he said to the head of the KGB of Kyrgyzstan
  14. Pacifist_Leopold
    Pacifist_Leopold 9 January 2022 17: 18
    +4
    Quote: Gado
    Earlier, a citizen of Kyrgyzstan was shown on one of the Kazakh TV channels, who said that he agreed to participate in protest actions for the promised $ 200

    The first "birds" flew, it's time to find out who, when and why paid.

    Can't you think a little differently? The authorities of Kazakhstan fired at their people, out of cowardice they invited the CSTO troops. And now ordinary citizens of the neighboring country are being caught in all yards and forced to take the blame. But then they screwed up, squeezed out "recognition" from a well-known jazzman in the region, who earns these $ 200 per hour and even more. When his family saw the poor fellow with "confession", they immediately recognized him. The KZ authorities screwed up badly, they began to assert that it was not Ruzakhunov, but a certain Yuburov, born in 1990. But Kyrgyzstan is a small country, and Yuburov's relatives were found and said that in the video it was not Yuburov, but he was trading in Almaty, and now disappeared. In general, it is clear that scapegoats are being sought.
    1. korabelnikoffevgeny
      korabelnikoffevgeny 9 January 2022 17: 25
      0
      <<<
      Can't you think a little differently? The authorities of Kazakhstan fired at their people, out of cowardice they invited the CSTO troops. >>>]
      It is impossible ... in such reasoning, the State Department is not attracted in any way ... and without it, how could
    2. nobody75
      nobody75 9 January 2022 17: 44
      0
      And now ordinary citizens of the neighboring country are caught in all yards and forced to take the blame

      And where did the citizens of the neighboring country come from in all the courtyards?
      Sincerely
  15. nobody75
    nobody75 9 January 2022 17: 43
    0
    And with whom was the fight on the Almaat-Bishkek track? And where are the "centurions" in red jackets? And to whom were the weapons handed out under the video report?
    Sincerely
  16. Alexander Siberia mother
    Alexander Siberia mother 9 January 2022 18: 02
    -2
    How many puppies there are on the site, horror ..
  17. Pandiurin
    Pandiurin 9 January 2022 18: 05
    +1
    The Kyrgyz said about the jazz musician that he was not a terrorist, but they did not refute the fact that he did not take part in the riots for money.

    Could tell him the purpose of his trip to Kazakhstan.

    The musician said that he did not have a job, which, in principle, is logical, coronavirus, there are few public events with live music.

    Bishkek also said nothing about the fact that he had a job and could not get a story for $ 200.

    Quite a normal version of an unemployed musician from Kyrgyzstan went to Maidan in neighboring Kazakhstan for money.
    1. nobody75
      nobody75 9 January 2022 18: 13
      -2
      Why are you talking about the bad at once ?! Maybe the musician decided to change his role and retrained as a rapper! Did you come to Kazakhstan to merge with the audience ?!
      Sincerely
      1. Pandiurin
        Pandiurin 9 January 2022 18: 30
        -1
        Quote: nobody75
        Why are you talking about the bad at once ?! Maybe the musician decided to change his role and retrained as a rapper! Did you come to Kazakhstan to merge with the audience ?!
        Sincerely


        Flared up, was wrong)

        Rap is the music of the streets.

        They probably "read" there to the accompaniment of shots and explosions of stun grenades.
        Real rap battle, for real, in Kazakh)

        And they were raked ...
        1. nobody75
          nobody75 9 January 2022 18: 34
          -1
          That's it!!! He wrote the music. Ablyazov - words. He himself admitted on the air to "Rain"
          Sincerely
  18. rocket757
    rocket757 9 January 2022 18: 05
    +2
    "We have no terrorists": Bishkek claims that the militants came to Kazakhstan not from Kyrgyzstan
    ... The situation is extreme ... there will be harsh statements from the injured party, well, it always happens. There is nothing to be offended, understand and cooperate, the most reasonable thing to do at the moment.
    This is the same rake that anyone can shove !!! It is necessary to neutralize, eliminate the danger by joint efforts, it is not easy to get into the position of the offended!
    1. Pandiurin
      Pandiurin 9 January 2022 18: 40
      -1
      Quote: rocket757
      "We have no terrorists": Bishkek claims that the militants came to Kazakhstan not from Kyrgyzstan
      ... The situation is extreme ... there will be harsh statements from the injured party, well, it always happens. There is nothing to be offended, understand and cooperate, the most reasonable thing to do at the moment.
      This is the same rake that anyone can shove !!! It is necessary to neutralize, eliminate the danger by joint efforts, it is not easy to get into the position of the offended!


      Bishkek really shouldn't have got into a pose and denied everything at once.
      There are a lot of figurants from one country to another, it's easy to wander around. Surely there will be someone specifically from Kyrgyzstan and ran with weapons. It would be better if they said something like
      They could have been arrested by accident, but Kyrgyzstan sympathizes and is ready to jointly investigate each case.

      As if hinting at the fact that everything is not so simple, someone was trying to break through the border, at least there was a legalized point of departure with places where you can get medical treatment and sit out. This means that there could be camps for training accumulation there.
      1. nobody75
        nobody75 9 January 2022 18: 43
        0
        According to my information, they are there ... And not only in Kyrgyzstan ...
        Sincerely
      2. rocket757
        rocket757 9 January 2022 19: 17
        +2
        Position, I don't see anything, I don't hear anything, and who will not be useful!
        A simple, proven truth ... why are they wandering around, why ???
        1. nobody75
          nobody75 9 January 2022 21: 26
          0
          Who is it who is wandering ??? If it were not for the human sacrifice, then all this would resemble a children's song, about Tweedledee and Tweedledum, who decided to blow each other ... And this is not about Nazarbayev and Tokayev - no one needs them for a hundred years! In general, that Nazarbayev, that Crouchuk are creatures of Yegor Kuzmich ... That is still hr ...
          If we talk about the Kirghiz ... You know, this whole story is an illustration of the "Great Myth of the Battle of Kulikovo". The "holy man" Ablyazov in Kazakhstan has the same authority as Mamai in the Golden Horde. Therefore, in the army, both could only have Angmar horse crossbowmen and God-offended Kyrgyz ... Since the Angmarians were not seen in Almaty, the Kyrgyz would be made extreme ...
          Sincerely
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 9 January 2022 21: 39
            +1
            Never say that this can never be ... you need to objectively understand everything, and then make statements.
            That is why there is a court, interstate relations, that would put all the points over Y!
            1. nobody75
              nobody75 9 January 2022 21: 42
              -1
              You know, the offended relatives of Kunaev, who for years have been waiting in ambush for the Dark One on the Right to go to Baron Harkonen from Gazprom, to your "international court" ...
              Sincerely
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 9 January 2022 21: 56
                +1
                International, it's about nothing at all.
                To spoil relations with neighbors, simply because I don’t want to understand, but the zealous leaped up ... stupid and harmful.
                1. nobody75
                  nobody75 9 January 2022 22: 00
                  0
                  Sorting out is not just stupid, but also very dangerous ... Nazarbayev said, "Everyone must unite."
                  Sincerely
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 9 January 2022 22: 27
                    0
                    All to unite, this does not happen ... although temporary alliances occur, very strange.
                    The question is ... is Tokayev so naive that he will listen to the eternal Leader of the Nation, or is he like a "faithful dog" only on command .....
                    We'd better see .... the conclusions later.
                    1. nobody75
                      nobody75 9 January 2022 22: 31
                      0
                      Excuse me, who cares about Nazarbayev and Tokayev? There is "Three Fat Men"!
                      Sincerely
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 9 January 2022 22: 54
                        0
                        The question is ... and in every event, these three climb head over heels? There are particulars that interest them to varying degrees ...
                      2. nobody75
                        nobody75 10 January 2022 07: 21
                        0
                        In every ... They have nothing else to do.
                        Sincerely
  19. Mylenef
    Mylenef 9 January 2022 19: 30
    +1
    "We have no terrorists"
    Now no, yes, all went to "business"
  20. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 9 January 2022 19: 41
    0
    How can he admit that he is not in control of the border? Of course, no one "officially" crossed the border. Everything slowly crawls out. Such a large-scale preparation cannot be hidden ...
  21. spectr
    spectr 9 January 2022 21: 33
    0
    All this is more like a civil war, where one diaspora is trying to knock down the other, which is in power. Moreover, the United States and Europe did not threaten another sanctions. The only interesting thing is where the weapons came from for the "protesters" and what kind of weapon they are. Those. this is an internal initiative or, for example, an attempt by Turkey to strengthen its position in this country after the change of power.
    1. nobody75
      nobody75 9 January 2022 21: 37
      0
      Excuse me, but what, the power has changed? Did Nazarbayev have it? Do you seriously think that power can be seized by burning the Akimat and raping the secretary?
      Sincerely
  22. musorg
    musorg 10 January 2022 12: 24
    0
    However, this will serve as a lesson for everyone in the fight against terrorists, Kyrgyzstan has achieved such results!
  23. Siberian-1
    Siberian-1 10 January 2022 14: 02
    -1
    And what happened to those who in 1990 slaughtered the Meskhetian Turks? In Osh? Where were the special forces from Tajikistan sent? Yes, you are all samo-bandits.
  24. notingem
    notingem 10 January 2022 14: 23
    -1
    There are no terrorists. Are there any expressionists or avant-gardists?
  25. kriten
    kriten 10 January 2022 16: 30
    -1
    They do not have terrorists because they are called defenders of true Islam. There they are a third of the country, and the other two-thirds are clans of drug lords replacing each other in power.
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  27. 28st region
    28st region 11 January 2022 07: 22
    +1
    There are no terrorists. And it can't be. As Tokayev said, 20 terrorists were hiding for so many years that no one noticed them. Rave.
    Themselves raised by their greed and unprincipledness