"We have no terrorists": Bishkek claims that the militants came to Kazakhstan not from Kyrgyzstan

Bishkek claims that the militants did not come to Kazakhstan from Kyrgyzstan. None of them crossed the Kyrgyz-Kazakh border.

This statement was made to journalists by the head of the State Committee for National Security of the Republic of Kyrgyzstan Kamchybek Tashiev.

We have no terrorists

- said a high-ranking Kyrgyz official.

At the same time, he added that if radicals appear in his country, strict measures will be taken against them in accordance with the legislation of Kyrgyzstan.

Tashiev does not deny that there are Kyrgyz citizens among the persons detained by law enforcement officers of Kazakhstan, but he has not received any official messages from the neighboring state of Bishkek on this matter and does not know specific names. The head of the State Committee for National Security does not exclude that they did not take any part in the riots and were detained by mistake.

Among them there may be those who hesitated

- suggested Tashiev.

He assured journalists that the unrest in Kazakhstan does not threaten Kyrgyzstan, since all the necessary measures have been taken to ensure security.

Earlier, a citizen of Kyrgyzstan was shown on one of the Kazakh TV channels, who said that he agreed to participate in protest actions for the promised $ 200. Jazz musician Vikram Ruzakhunov was identified in the "guest" who arrived from the neighboring country.

The day before, information came from Kazakhstan about a clash southwest of Alma-Ata, in which a group of armed men took part, trying to break through the border into Kyrgyzstan.

Comments

[vervolk]

how familiar it all is. typical nomenclature excuses. "this is not from our area"

[210ox]

But what a coat he has

[Aviator_]

But what a coat he has

Almost like a Pasha-Mercedes.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Aviator_

But what a coat he has

Almost like a Pasha-Mercedes.

Although Pasha is (I don’t know what to call it), his cap is statutory, in other words - standard. I have the same on the shelf.

[Aviator_]

So this Kirghiz-Kaisak (as they were called until 1917), too, I suppose wears everything according to its charter.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Aviator_

So this Kirghiz-Kaisak (as they were called until 1917), too, I suppose wears everything according to its charter.

But this eagle has a "noble" cap

[alystan]

But Shoigu in the collection also has one like that of the White Guards.
But both of them are united by the fact that neither of them served in the army.

[Saladine]

This is the overbrain

[Anachoret]

They are not bandits or terrorists) they are "noble soldiers of fortune")))

[Dart2027]

Quote: Pacifist_Leopold

Can't you think a little differently? The Kazakh authorities shot at

bandits and terrorists, among whom there could well be citizens of Kyrgyzstan, but the government of Kyrgyzstan does not want to have anything to do with them.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Perhaps there are no terrorists in Kyrgyzstan ... Perhaps they came to Kazakhstan and not from Kyrgyzstan ... So far there is no confirmation of this - it is too early to talk about it.

[Dart2027]

Quote: Vladimir Mashkov

Perhaps there are no terrorists in Kyrgyzstan ...

Maybe not. But in Kazakhstan they are fighting precisely against terrorists.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Quote: Dart2027

Maybe not. But in Kazakhstan they are fighting precisely against terrorists.

... and it will soon become clear where they are from.

[Dart2027]

Where the ears grow from is so clear, but cannon fodder can be anything.

[Scoun]

Quote: Pacifist_Leopold

Can't you think a little differently? The authorities of Kazakhstan fired at their people, out of cowardice they invited the CSTO troops. And now ordinary citizens of the neighboring country are being caught in all yards and forced to take the blame. But then they screwed up, squeezed out "recognition" from a well-known jazzman in the region, who these $ 200 per hour

Of course not, this one shouted - from the branches,
Giraffe is big, he knows better.

Quote: vervolk

how familiar it all is.

And that's it, the guilty ones have been found and appointed, it is no longer necessary to understand the varieties of "rice".

[fruc]

Pacifist_Leopold
In general, it is clear that they are looking for scapegoats.

About 4000 people were detained and continue to detain, and when the 200s are taken out of the mountains, it will be clear where the guest performers come from. I think there is a wide geography there.

[abrakadabre]

Yep [media = https: //youtu.be/DOMKSDfIdVU? T = 40]

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: vervolk

how familiar it all is.

Yes.

[dauria]

Yes.

Stupid joke, by the way. In addition, it gives out the age of those repeating it. It is worth telling how and why it arose. There was the first "teleconference" at the very end of the 80s. On the other side, the experienced presenters have become skilled, and on our side - ... On our side, naive honest amateurs. There really was no "sex" in the USSR. More precisely, this word
was not used in the sense of "sexual intercourse". It was synonymous with modern "strip bar", "chicks in the sauna", "adult films". In the USSR, "sex" was not even used for its direct meaning - "sex". This now does not hurt anyone's ears to "have sex."
Now imagine modern presenters, showmen, humorists using the exact formulations of the Soviet era, "sexual intercourse", "sexual intercourse" instead of smooth "sex".
This is how this supposed joke was born from the scanty English language, where there is a board-board, and a keyboard-board, and a boat-board and stupid translators.
And in the USSR there really was no "security", "managers" and "sex". And there was a watchman, a warehouse manager and sexual intercourse.

[Vasyan1971]

Quote: dauria

The stupidest joke

I know it. And in this case, I'm not talking about the presence or absence of a cupcake, but about the attitude to the statement from Bishkek: there are no terrorists there, just as there was no sex in the USSR. This sarcasm is called ...

[fruc]

It was in 1986. Teleconference Leningrad-Seattle:

[venik]

Quote: dauria

On the other side, the experienced presenters have become skilled, and on our side - ... On our side, naive honest amateurs.

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Complete nonsense! I watched this particular "teleconference" and remembered (just because of this anecdotal incident)! Maybe on their part there was a certain number of "savvy" journalists present in the hall (although this was not strongly felt on the questions), but from our side there were also a number of "ideologically-grounded comrades" in the hall ... It's just that the Americans looked more relaxed and with this very “relaxedness” (bordering on tactlessness ”) they“ gave out on the mountain ”everything that came to mind! sex and everything connected with it in the media? "To which the famous response of one" ideologically-grounded durochki "followed, which caused a fit of laughter in a Moscow studio and bewilderment of the Americans! "teleconference" in Moscow - commented: "Sex, that is! There is no advertising!"
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Quote: dauria

In addition, it gives out the age of those repeating it.

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And thank God! Should I be ashamed or what? "My years are my wealth!"

[Saladine]

Ivanova herself in 2004 in an interview with the newspaper "Komsomolskaya Pravda" [4] outlined an alternative version of the history of the origin of this phrase:
In general, a teleconference began, and one American woman says: because of the war in Afghanistan, you should stop having sex with your men altogether - then they will not go to war. And he pokes his finger all the time. I answered her: there is no sex in the USSR, but there is love. And you, too, did not stop sleeping with your men during the Vietnam War.

But everyone remembered only the beginning of the phrase. What am I wrong? In our country, the word "sex" was really almost indecent. We have never had sex, but love. This is what I meant.
The fact that Ivanova ended the phrase with the words “We have love” was publicly confirmed by the director of the teleconference Vladimir Mukusev [5]:
... Lyudmila said: “We have no sex, and we are categorically against it,” - after which laughter and applause burst out in both studios and drowned out the end of the phrase: “We have love”.

[SSR]

Quote: vervolk

how familiar it all is. typical nomenclature excuses. "this is not from our area"

.... another comment is nothing.
Throwing in, slogan, the main thing is the first.
So what about the fact that the "ringleaders ran to the lair"?
The instigators are shepherds or?
Chatterbox.
Like a bazaar grandmother, just to blurt out loud.

[Scoun]

Quote from S.S.R.

So what about the fact that the "ringleaders ran to the lair"?
The instigators are shepherds or?
Chatterbox.
Like a bazaar grandmother, just to blurt out loud.

Are you hoping for a constructive response / dialogue?
The main thing is a sonorous throw-in without reasoning.
- and so it will do! (C) perto.

[SSR]

Quote: Scoun

Are you hoping for a constructive response / dialogue?

On the forum, among hundreds and hundreds of comments, you can always find those that make you, at least, think.

[vervolk]

what rudeness in communication flooded? dear who brought you up like that? your dad and mom? teachers? clan, tribe nation? who are you so rude and uncivilized ?! tell me rather a representative of what uncivilized nation?

[Aerodrome]

I was in general a figure of 20 militants, shocked .... you can capture the country with experienced then, and the airfield and at all, ugh. something is lying to us somewhere.

[faiver]

it depends on which country, Kazakhstan tea is not Estonia ...

[Lech from Android.]

For the 2 million city of Alma Ata, 20000 militants will not be enough ... but there are also other cities where they fought ...
So far, the picture with the militants is not clear ... who, where, in what quantity, with what training? ... Complete obscurity and fog.

[alexmach]

For the 2 million city of Alma Ata, 20000 militants will not be enough ... but there are also other cities where they fought ...

Not enough, especially in the presence of protests, marauders and just idiots who took to the streets. A couple of hundred, well, up to a thousand with a clear leadership will be behind the eyes.

[bar]

Quote: Lech from Android.

So far, the picture with the militants is not clear ... who, where, in what quantity, with what training?

It seems that everything has been explained long ago. Their own militants, homegrown. And they were preparing in their own camps, under the control of their own KNB, the head of which has already seemed to be arrested. Nothing new, the usual "dispute between business entities" with local flavor and traitors.

[Aerodrome]

Yours faithfully .. Lyokha, 2 Lyama this, taking into account (all), we will discard more housewives and passive ones - the figure will decrease several times, minus babies, minus those who have joined the other side ... you know what I mean? statistics ... she's so ... statistics.

[mat-vey]

Again, the Chief Police Officer of Almaty, Kanat Taymerdenov, reported how many people work in the City Police Department today, Almaty.tv reports.

“We have 6040 people on the staff of the City Department. Of these, 5597 are certified personnel, the rest are administrative civil servants.

Every day, in addition to duty squads, 1500 police officers intercede in 550 patrol stations to protect public order. We are missing 437 district police officers, divided by per capita.
This is the "city of two million" ..

[paul3390]

2 militants will not be enough for the city of Alma Ata with its population of 20000 million

Come on - judging by the official data of American intelligence - there were about the same number of barmalees in all of Iraq and Syria .. And there were more people, and the armies were more abrupt. However - what a rustle was brought about by the evon. I think - if there were really two divisions in Kazakhstan - no CSTO would have time to help the bayam. Especially against the background of a strange categorical reluctance of local security officials to actively oppose.

[Dart2027]

Quote: paul3390

according to the official data of the American intelligence

You can not read further.

[SSR]

Quote: Lech from Android.

For the 2 million city of Alma Ata, 20000 militants will not be enough ...

But even if we discard the comrade’s demands for proofs with severed heads, the video and photo facts of the burnt, including social technology, are discouraging.
Plus a video, where the attacker kicks the shield, and behind him two or three pull the soldier out of the gap.
These are not simple Protestants.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Aerodrome

something is lying to us somewhere.

[Aerodrome]

and I mean the same "information" - it is ... how to apply.

[mat-vey]

Quote: Aerodrome

I was shocked by the number of 20 fighters.

But somehow it sounds too impressive against the background of an army under 100 ..

[Alexander 3]

Where did you subtract such a figure of 20000? On VO infa that about 3000 terrorists were detained. And that's good. from the corrupt ones only problems. Judas.

[mat-vey]

Kazakh President Kassym-Zhomart Tokayev said there had been at least six waves of terrorist attacks in Almaty. He announced this on his Twitter page.

“There were at least six waves of terrorist attacks in Almaty, their total number is 20,” he wrote.
22:52, January 7, 2022. "Lenta.Ru"

[alexmach]

Well, so obviously he wrote down all the protesters and others who took to the streets as terrorists.

[mat-vey]

Quote: alexmach

Well, so obviously he wrote down all the protesters and others who took to the streets as terrorists.

A politician should lie beautifully ... and here ... As the saying goes - "even the horses are laughing" ...

[alexmach]

Do not know. We are laughing with you. And someone may have already described themselves from fear. East all the same. 6000 are rumored to have already been arrested. There are still 14 ...

[mat-vey]

Quote: alexmach

There are still 14 ...

Like in "The Marriage of Figaro" ... there is no comma - it will be ... (I can not vouch for the accuracy at all)

[man]

do you really believe him ???

[korabelnikoffevgeny]

By the way, he deleted this tweet.

[mat-vey]

Quote: korabelnikoffevgeny

By the way, he deleted this tweet.

But smart people say - "the Internet remembers everything"

[alexmach]

By the way, he seemed to be announcing this out loud on TV, no?

[korabelnikoffevgeny]

Maybe on TV ... I read about twitter

[Aerodrome]

Quote: Alexander 3

Where did you subtract such a figure of 20000?

letters were written everywhere.

[man]

I have it written on the barn, and there is firewood!

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: Aerodrome

I was in general a figure of 20 militants, shocked .... you can capture the country with experienced then, and the airfield and at all, ugh. something is lying to us somewhere.

Remember the robbery of Comrade Shpak's apartment, and his testimony.

[Aerodrome]

Quote: SKVichyakow

Quote: Aerodrome

I was in general a figure of 20 militants, shocked .... you can capture the country with experienced then, and the airfield and at all, ugh. something is lying to us somewhere.

Remember the robbery of Comrade Shpak's apartment, and his testimony.

It's a pity for Shpak .. yes .. I have a "parasonok" VCR in my garage ... I would give Shpak for that ... or you ... it takes a place, Soviet galoshes have nowhere to put. and I will give a cigarette case, as a gift, aluminum, crumpled, there is also a "pamir" -2pcs. (the value increases hundreds of times.) my flask is still an army ... as a gift.

[wandlitz]

IMHO, the KNB knows the numbers, they themselves prepared and taught ...

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Aerodrome

something is lying to us somewhere.

Yes, this is already clear to the fool. There are a lot of inconsistencies, the Pendos for some reason do not bother much about the introduction of troops, the embassy is evacuating, although in Ukraine, Kyrgyzstan, Armenia,
The US embassy has served as a focal point, and there is not a single more serious leader of the protests. Tokayev removes posts about 20 thousand terrorists.
Here's an interesting opinion -

[Dart2027]

Quote: Ingvar 72

For some reason, the Pendos do not bother much about the introduction of troops, the embassy is evacuating, although in Ukraine, Kyrgyzstan, Armenia,
the U.S. embassy served as the focal point

And what is left for them after the entry of Russian troops?

[yuriy55]

Quote: Aerodrome

something is lying to us somewhere.

I know where? Remember, the guarantor made us a New Year's gift - he canceled the annual MOT for a personal car. I remember that someone then said that, they say, they were overjoyed early - now prices for OSAGO will be raised.
Here he said the truth:

Compulsory motor third party liability insurance has risen sharply in the Russian regions since January 9, writes Gazeta.Ru. Entered into force Central Bank instruction about the second large-scale change in regional coefficients in the history of OSAGO.
In addition, the upper limit of the uniform for the whole country OSAGO tariff corridor increased by 10 percent, to 5980 rubles. It is from this amount that insurers will be able to calculate the base rate.

This is how her name justifies ... this Elvira ...

[Gado]

Earlier, a citizen of Kyrgyzstan was shown on one of the Kazakh TV channels, who said that he agreed to participate in protest actions for the promised $ 200

The first "birds" flew, it's time to find out who, when and why paid.

[alexmach]

The first "birds" flew, it's time to find out who, when and why paid.

This "birdie" clearly fell under the "noise" and for the company.

[Pacifist_Leopold]

Birzhan Chukin
25 min ·
The $ 200 Marauder and the Boozer is detained. But the detainees are not overwhelmed with musical knowledge. And there was a big mess - the marauder was immediately recognized. It turned out to be a famous pianist of Kyrgyzstan, composer, head of a musical orchestra, laureate of many international music competitions Vikram Ruzakhunov. (By the way, he is a very highly paid artist. And, if anyone is interested, he is a Uyghur by nationality). And he arrived in the city at the official invitation to tour.
And how did the detainees know about this? They have an order-order: to show a different citizenship of the marauders, to move the arrows outside the outskirts. This is understandable to the point of complete transparency. (But even here at least minimal professionalism is required. Official negligence or flagrant incompetence is evident).
Here are just a bobble out: the fellow majors do not know the pianists by sight. (If Yuri Bashmet or Denis Matsuev were on tour, they would be taken to the monkey house. Which of them knows Bashmet or Matsuev by sight?). It turns out that the city was attacked by Uyghur composers from Kyrgyzstan. So the reason was found.
Reminds of a similar anecdotal case from the 90s. Then the Moscow police carried out a daily plan to detain "persons of Caucasian nationality." We saw leaving the subway with a similar appearance. Detained. He was ardently explaining something in his own language. But who will understand what he says there? They were taken to the monkey house, kept in a cage with drunks and drug addicts until morning without food and water.
In the morning he was finally found. And a huge scandal erupted. The detained person of Caucasian nationality turned out to be a diplomat of the Turkish embassy. The scandal was at the level of foreign ministers.
But how could the patrol sergeants know about this? The main thing for them is that it was “similar” and there was a “arrest plan”. So they detained me.
If the composer was officially shown on TV as a marauder, now an equally official denial on TV should follow.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Gado

it's time to find out who paid when and why.

We have already found out. There, the authorities were on fire with the false mercenaries. They knocked out the testimony on the camera, but in real life there was a Kazakh musician.

[Gado]

If the authorities are wrong, they will apologize and release. But I am 100% convinced that there are mercenaries and criminal elements there.

[Ingvar 72]

Musician Kyrgyz, I beg your pardon. Kyrgyzstan has already protested, but the Kazakh Interior Ministry continues to insist that this is a different person. That is, they rested.

[faiver]

"We have no terrorists"

- I immediately remembered the famous "There is no sex in the USSR" ...

[paul3390]

To what extent does this new manner of distorting and pulling phrases out of context get enough ..
Initially, what did you mean?

... In our TV advertising, everything revolves around sex. Do you have such TV commercials?
Well, we have sex ... (chuckles) We don't have sex, and we are totally against it!

The end of the phrase was drowned out by laughter and applause. After the audience laughed, one of the Soviet participants clarified:
We have sex, we have no advertising!

[faiver]

Yes, I remember this teleconference, but this phrase has been living its own life for a long time ...

[paul3390]

Yes, the fact of the matter is that these fakes only the brains of people soar .. Distorting real events. Like Lenin's about cooks, Vyshinsky's about evidence, and so on and so on ..

[vervolk]

By the way, I was wondering, I read your post and wanted to "wipe your nose" climbed to look for the original source to prove that you are an apologist of the Soviet Union wrong and? it turned out that you are right but I clearly remember that then behind these giggles and screams there was another ending: "in the USSR there is no sex, but there is love and friendship." but YouTube says something else, about advertising. direct effect of some kind of mandela

[paul3390]

The most interesting thing is that I remember a different ending! But here we are .. Getting old, or what? But this does not change the essence - initially it meant a completely different meaning than fake.

[vervolk]

wait, you also mean about love and friendship?

[paul3390]

Well, yes. Interestingly - is this an induced false memory or already senile sclerosis?

[vervolk]

this is called the "mandela effect"

[man]

Yeah, right from the language ... from the claudia they ripped off

[_Sergei_]

We didn't have sex, but we had fertility

[rocket757]

Posner gave me a microphone - he walked around the podium - and I said: "There is no sex in the USSR - we have love," but this piece was then cut off.

.

[Aerodrome]

Quote: faiver

"We have no terrorists"

- I immediately remembered the famous "There is no sex in the USSR" ...

I mean bliatstava such an open..azh at the top was not.

[Avior]

A difficult situation. The authorities of Kazakhstan must either indicate and provide details of which country was the foreign invasion of 20 thousand mercenaries, not a needle in a haystack, after all, as they stated, or admit that they fought with the people of Kazakhstan, and not with any mercenaries.
And the choice is small. Russia, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan border on Kazakhstan.
Kyrgyzstan has categorically disowned the alleged invasion from its territory, who will be blamed now?

[vervolk]

what are you? What kind of globe do you have? and that China does not border the Xinjiang Uyghur region? and Azerbaijan means Turkey through the Caspian Sea? and Iran?

[Avior]

Let's see who is accused

[The leader of the Redskins]

There are definitely no Turkmen. I worked there and talked to people. Probably the most calm and submissive of Asians.
And, in general, it will be difficult for Tokayev to explain later the figure of 20. Here, either show the corpses (in that amount?), Or the prisoners and the created ones.
Well, or at least cadres of flight across the border - too, two divisions are not snuff of tobacco.

[Sergej1972]

I was surprised that Turkmen students studying in Russia are very critical and often mockingly speak about both the former president, who passed away, and the current head of their country.

[CommanderDIVA]

And who are the Turkmen-Turkomans who are pro-Turkish proxies who had the most direct relation to the war on the territory of Syria and Iraq?

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

And, in general, it will be difficult for Tokayev to explain later the figure of 20. Here, either show the corpses (in that amount?), Or the prisoners and the created ones.

You are strange. Most of them drowned in the Caspian Sea, some fled to Afghanistan, they say life is getting better ...

[paul3390]

In addition, there are many interesting things. All these bandits didn't have any official protest leaders. No special symbolism. No organizations. No political requirements. There was practically no support from the West. No attempts to catch up with the mass character of the Maidan. Etc..

A fundamental difference from the events in Ukraine or Belarus. There, everything happened exactly the opposite. And then - appeared like out of nothing, shit, and disappeared into nowhere. All this is strange - not a fig does not look like the accurses usually arranged by the State Department. They always bet on maximum publicity.

[vervolk]

a feeling that all the same blazed spontaneously. all the more so in this Zhanauzen ten years ago it already happened. and then, along the way, all interested players began to connect. and "sleeping" cells of ISIS and "tourists" from the Taliban and criminal gangs of the zhuzes and American agents and possibly pro-Turkish-Turkoman cells ... hence the large number of armed and aggressive groups, but at the same time the inconsistency of their actions with each other. and therefore not much from abroad - they are all local.

[paul3390]

I agree - I have a similar point of view. It really began as a massive popular protest, and then a bunch of various participants immediately joined in. And from all sides.

[paul3390]

pro-Turkish-Turkoman cells

I've always wondered - what kind of Pan-Turkut project? Yes - the language is similar, but put a Turk, an Azeri, a Kazakh and a Kirghiz next to each other - is that, like one people ?? Yes, you just have to look at the faces .. They even have different racial types.

[vervolk]

Well, there is Pan-Slavism, although what is now in common between a Pole, a Russian, a Serb, a Greek and a Ukrainian

[paul3390]

But where is this Pan-Slavism ... It died at the beginning of the last century. But - we with Serbs, Poles and Ukrainians belong to at least one race! Many of us will easily pass for a representative of another Slavic people. Are you able to distinguish a Russian from a Pole by a photo? Me not. And let's say a Turk from a Kirghiz? That's the same ..

[vervolk]

they have there "tu (y) romania" at the level of state policy. there is a mythology that type-modern Turkey is the heritage of the Seljuk tribes who came from somewhere in the territory of modern Turkmenistan. Well, of course, they claim that they are the strongest "hereditary" state, and everyone whom they consider to be the "Turkic" race should see them as a flagship. senior bart and defender. They dig very deeply, no smaller than the diggers of the Black Sea. for example, they believe that since the Yakuts once descended along the Siberian rivers from the southern steppes, they still remain Turks. Although, in my opinion, they have long been assimilated among the "forest" indigenous peoples of Siberia.
the Finno-Ugric peoples have something similar, who, under the patronage of Finland, are beginning to "revive the national traditions" of the oppressed inhabitants of Mordovia and Cheremis. And also among the Latinos, they also have a "Bolivarian initiative" where all the peoples of South America are trying to gather in one heap according to the principle of mestizo or mulatto ...

[Gardamir]

What does it matter to you? Why are these questions? Now Tokayev is the only one, almost elbasy. So said Nazarbayev, whom no one saw, like these 20 thousand.

[vervolk]

well now the next question. what is Tokae ready to go for the sake of rapprochement with the Russian Federation?

[Gardamir]

It remains only to wait. Unless, of course, they show him something. Although the minimum that I would like is a reduction in rent.

[Suraikin.Aleksandr]

In my opinion, this is a typical violent riot, which is accompanied by robberies, murders of law enforcement officers who fell under the hot hand of rioters.

The reason why the Russian media cover events in Kazakhstan in this way! Apparently lies in the similarity of the political systems of Russia and Kazakhstan! For many years, Nursultan Nazarbayev ruled in Kazakhstan, relying on the Nur Otan political party. The current president of Kazakhstan, Kasym Tokayev, until recently, was an openly formal figure!

[vervolk]

in here you are slightly mistaken. I think on the contrary, these are all childhood growing pains. It's just that the recent history of Russia is bad news for Belarusians, Uraisians and Kazakhs. From the moment of the collapse, they lived quietly and peacefully without social upheavals. In fact, they still had a conscientious alliance with a national bias. And Russia in 93 experienced a severe inoculation of authoritarianism. When Boris the alcoholic shot the people's parliament and established a tough authoritarianism. When the people who went to storm Ostankino were simply destroyed by special forces fire without sentimentality. When they were shooting at the white house. And then this author of tare young Russia was baptized with the blood of the hardest first Chechen dripping. At one point, it seemed that federalization would work against the state. Tatarstan was ready to calve if only Chechnya succeeded, the Ural and Siberian republics were created. Then there was a long period of indifference, the very people who, in the late 80s and early 90s, enthusiastically went to rallies and plunged into political disputes on buses, got over the brains of poverty and criminal revelry. You see, it is against the authorities that you can go to rallies and demand something for some kind of social justice, but what can you demand from the brothers in crimson jackets in Mercedes to the hard workers and grandmothers, pensioners? yes they are the people themselves. and the oligarchs are generally out of reach on their yachts in spain. And how then did they manage to get out of all this, how the generation of patriotic citizens grew up. how society was then somehow consolidated - I still do not understand myself, despite one of my formations - political. And so all this for the republics of the near abroad is only now coming.

[Dart2027]

Quote: paul3390

A fundamental difference from the events in Ukraine or Belarus.

In Belarus, there was no opportunity to train fighters - Lukashenka crushed any activity of various kinds of NGOs in the bud.
It looks like Ukraine, but if you recall Putin's recent statements, then the fact of Russia's intervention was quite predictable, so they decided to change tactics, relying on speed, and arrange a kind of blitzkrieg, and only then start a PR campaign.

[man]

Right now! Tokayev himself will speak and honestly admit that he came up with it!

[CommanderDIVA]

Judge one-sidedly, you are considering only the land route of penetration of militants into Kazakhstan, a lot of people from Central Asia left for Syria and Iraq for permanent residence, which prevented them from returning to their country and becoming a member of the sleeping cell, according to our press center in Syria , if memory does not change immigrants from the post-Soviet republics in the ranks of Islamic fundamentalists there were about 40 people, not everyone found their own grave in the local sands

[Mikhail Sidorov]

they took no part in the riots and were detained by mistake.

Among them there may be those who hesitated

And did not manage to leave in time with .... in general.

[Avior]

The $ 200 Marauder and the Boozer is detained.

Moreover, he made a confession, publicly, on camera, with traces of beatings on his face.
And now a reasonable question arises - when will other "confessions" be shown - can you trust them?

[Suraikin.Aleksandr]

Hence, another problem arises with a sufficiently high number of law enforcement officers, their low efficiency and professionalism, which the events in Kazakhstan have also shown quite well. And in our country, in fact, in the event of such events, this army of parasites will not be capable of anything. The bloated apparatus of law enforcement officers of all stripes is just self-deception.

[korabelnikoffevgeny]

Yes, there were no terrorists ... the usual power struggle

[Gardamir]

Why are you doing that? They killed all the intrigue, they will again start writing about Ukraine.

[Mikhail Sidorov]

He assured journalists that the unrest in Kazakhstan does not threaten Kyrgyzstan, since all the necessary measures have been taken to ensure security.

Oh all measures and to overthrow the president every 5 years is a tradition.

[faiver]

this is instead of elections

[paul3390]

I have always been a supporter of the Novgorod Veche - they parted on two sides, and whoever stomped on someone's snout is right. Nice thing! And darling was taken away, and democracy was observed .. It would be nice to have such a custom in the Duma, and make broadcasts paid. True - it would be dishonest, from the EP the sovereigns are only used athletes. Apparently - they have some kind of special gift for managing the state ..

[paul3390]

Well - evon in Latin America, pronunciamento is generally a national sport ..

[Sergej1972]

Now, for some reason, the coups there have practically stopped, it has even become somehow uninteresting.)

[The popuas]

Jazz musician ... played on Kalash ...

[Viktor Sergeev]

Lost and didn't manage to escape?

[evgen1221]

We started otfutbolivatsya, who wants to be accused of importing. Agree that they themselves apparently poured from the moon.

[man]

usually they pour from Mars, nevertheless the god of war

[rocket757]

STUPID! The danger is so real, it can spread to everyone.
Only by joint efforts can the situation be leveled out ... but on the offended, everything can fall even faster, don't go to the grandmother, and that's understandable.

[evgen1221]

Well, first of all, not to fill the pockets of nobles of all levels in the civil service, but to serve the needs of this very population (occupiers). Then there will be no revolutions, and there will be enough small strikes and water cannons.

[rocket757]

Truths ... but, where does this happen, what would be so for the people, everything for the person?

[bar]

The head of the State Committee for National Security of the Republic of Kyrgyzstan said

We have no terrorists

And the President of Kyrgyzstan wrote in the mordo book

There are many of our working citizens in Kazakhstan. Perhaps among them there were those who could take part in the actions.

Summarizing the above, we can conclude that there are no terrorists in Kyrgyzstan anymore, they dumped everything in Kazakhstan

[open]

https://www.facebook.com/100002491125620/posts/4816752115084445/?d=n

This is what he said to the head of the KGB of Kyrgyzstan

[Pacifist_Leopold]

Quote: Gado

Earlier, a citizen of Kyrgyzstan was shown on one of the Kazakh TV channels, who said that he agreed to participate in protest actions for the promised $ 200

The first "birds" flew, it's time to find out who, when and why paid.

Can't you think a little differently? The authorities of Kazakhstan fired at their people, out of cowardice they invited the CSTO troops. And now ordinary citizens of the neighboring country are being caught in all yards and forced to take the blame. But then they screwed up, squeezed out "recognition" from a well-known jazzman in the region, who earns these $ 200 per hour and even more. When his family saw the poor fellow with "confession", they immediately recognized him. The KZ authorities screwed up badly, they began to assert that it was not Ruzakhunov, but a certain Yuburov, born in 1990. But Kyrgyzstan is a small country, and Yuburov's relatives were found and said that in the video it was not Yuburov, but he was trading in Almaty, and now disappeared. In general, it is clear that scapegoats are being sought.

[korabelnikoffevgeny]

<<<
Can't you think a little differently? The authorities of Kazakhstan fired at their people, out of cowardice they invited the CSTO troops. >>>]
It is impossible ... in such reasoning, the State Department is not attracted in any way ... and without it, how could

[nobody75]

And now ordinary citizens of the neighboring country are caught in all yards and forced to take the blame

And where did the citizens of the neighboring country come from in all the courtyards?
Sincerely

[nobody75]

And with whom was the fight on the Almaat-Bishkek track? And where are the "centurions" in red jackets? And to whom were the weapons handed out under the video report?
Sincerely

[Alexander Siberia mother]

How many puppies there are on the site, horror ..

[Pandiurin]

The Kyrgyz said about the jazz musician that he was not a terrorist, but they did not refute the fact that he did not take part in the riots for money.

Could tell him the purpose of his trip to Kazakhstan.

The musician said that he did not have a job, which, in principle, is logical, coronavirus, there are few public events with live music.

Bishkek also said nothing about the fact that he had a job and could not get a story for $ 200.

Quite a normal version of an unemployed musician from Kyrgyzstan went to Maidan in neighboring Kazakhstan for money.

[nobody75]

Why are you talking about the bad at once ?! Maybe the musician decided to change his role and retrained as a rapper! Did you come to Kazakhstan to merge with the audience ?!
Sincerely

[Pandiurin]

Quote: nobody75

Why are you talking about the bad at once ?! Maybe the musician decided to change his role and retrained as a rapper! Did you come to Kazakhstan to merge with the audience ?!
Sincerely

Flared up, was wrong)

Rap is the music of the streets.

They probably "read" there to the accompaniment of shots and explosions of stun grenades.
Real rap battle, for real, in Kazakh)

And they were raked ...

[nobody75]

That's it!!! He wrote the music. Ablyazov - words. He himself admitted on the air to "Rain"
Sincerely

[rocket757]

"We have no terrorists": Bishkek claims that the militants came to Kazakhstan not from Kyrgyzstan

... The situation is extreme ... there will be harsh statements from the injured party, well, it always happens. There is nothing to be offended, understand and cooperate, the most reasonable thing to do at the moment.
This is the same rake that anyone can shove !!! It is necessary to neutralize, eliminate the danger by joint efforts, it is not easy to get into the position of the offended!

[Pandiurin]

Quote: rocket757

"We have no terrorists": Bishkek claims that the militants came to Kazakhstan not from Kyrgyzstan

... The situation is extreme ... there will be harsh statements from the injured party, well, it always happens. There is nothing to be offended, understand and cooperate, the most reasonable thing to do at the moment.
This is the same rake that anyone can shove !!! It is necessary to neutralize, eliminate the danger by joint efforts, it is not easy to get into the position of the offended!

Bishkek really shouldn't have got into a pose and denied everything at once.
There are a lot of figurants from one country to another, it's easy to wander around. Surely there will be someone specifically from Kyrgyzstan and ran with weapons. It would be better if they said something like
They could have been arrested by accident, but Kyrgyzstan sympathizes and is ready to jointly investigate each case.

As if hinting at the fact that everything is not so simple, someone was trying to break through the border, at least there was a legalized point of departure with places where you can get medical treatment and sit out. This means that there could be camps for training accumulation there.

[nobody75]

According to my information, they are there ... And not only in Kyrgyzstan ...
Sincerely

[rocket757]

Position, I don't see anything, I don't hear anything, and who will not be useful!
A simple, proven truth ... why are they wandering around, why ???

[nobody75]

Who is it who is wandering ??? If it were not for the human sacrifice, then all this would resemble a children's song, about Tweedledee and Tweedledum, who decided to blow each other ... And this is not about Nazarbayev and Tokayev - no one needs them for a hundred years! In general, that Nazarbayev, that Crouchuk are creatures of Yegor Kuzmich ... That is still hr ...
If we talk about the Kirghiz ... You know, this whole story is an illustration of the "Great Myth of the Battle of Kulikovo". The "holy man" Ablyazov in Kazakhstan has the same authority as Mamai in the Golden Horde. Therefore, in the army, both could only have Angmar horse crossbowmen and God-offended Kyrgyz ... Since the Angmarians were not seen in Almaty, the Kyrgyz would be made extreme ...
Sincerely

[rocket757]

Never say that this can never be ... you need to objectively understand everything, and then make statements.
That is why there is a court, interstate relations, that would put all the points over Y!

[nobody75]

You know, the offended relatives of Kunaev, who for years have been waiting in ambush for the Dark One on the Right to go to Baron Harkonen from Gazprom, to your "international court" ...
Sincerely

[rocket757]

International, it's about nothing at all.
To spoil relations with neighbors, simply because I don’t want to understand, but the zealous leaped up ... stupid and harmful.

[nobody75]

Sorting out is not just stupid, but also very dangerous ... Nazarbayev said, "Everyone must unite."
Sincerely

[rocket757]

All to unite, this does not happen ... although temporary alliances occur, very strange.
The question is ... is Tokayev so naive that he will listen to the eternal Leader of the Nation, or is he like a "faithful dog" only on command .....
We'd better see .... the conclusions later.

[nobody75]

Excuse me, who cares about Nazarbayev and Tokayev? There is "Three Fat Men"!
Sincerely

[rocket757]

The question is ... and in every event, these three climb head over heels? There are particulars that interest them to varying degrees ...

[nobody75]

In every ... They have nothing else to do.
Sincerely

[Mylenef]

"We have no terrorists"
Now no, yes, all went to "business"

[Mountain shooter]

How can he admit that he is not in control of the border? Of course, no one "officially" crossed the border. Everything slowly crawls out. Such a large-scale preparation cannot be hidden ...

[spectr]

All this is more like a civil war, where one diaspora is trying to knock down the other, which is in power. Moreover, the United States and Europe did not threaten another sanctions. The only interesting thing is where the weapons came from for the "protesters" and what kind of weapon they are. Those. this is an internal initiative or, for example, an attempt by Turkey to strengthen its position in this country after the change of power.

[nobody75]

Excuse me, but what, the power has changed? Did Nazarbayev have it? Do you seriously think that power can be seized by burning the Akimat and raping the secretary?
Sincerely

[musorg]

However, this will serve as a lesson for everyone in the fight against terrorists, Kyrgyzstan has achieved such results!

[Siberian-1]

And what happened to those who in 1990 slaughtered the Meskhetian Turks? In Osh? Where were the special forces from Tajikistan sent? Yes, you are all samo-bandits.

[notingem]

There are no terrorists. Are there any expressionists or avant-gardists?

[kriten]

They do not have terrorists because they are called defenders of true Islam. There they are a third of the country, and the other two-thirds are clans of drug lords replacing each other in power.

[28st region]

There are no terrorists. And it can't be. As Tokayev said, 20 terrorists were hiding for so many years that no one noticed them. Rave.
Themselves raised by their greed and unprincipledness