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Revolvers Davisma: beautiful, elegant, self-cocking ...

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Capsule revolver Davism 1855. Please note that the handle rests against the rear wall of the frame, which makes the revolver look completely different from the American Colts ... Photo www.littlegun.be


"Let it be not the outer braiding of hair, not the golden headdress or the fancy dress, but the innermost man in the imperishable beauty of a meek and silent spirit, which is precious before God," be your adornment.
First Peter 3: 3-4

History firearms weapons. When the word "revolver" is used, most of those who hear it recall either a revolver or a Colt, as if other models simply did not exist. The reason is clear: the mass distribution of both. Moreover, if you ask "who invented the revolver", then in 80% of cases the answer will be the same - "Colt, of course." The fact that in fact a pistol with a drum magazine was first invented and manufactured in Europe, few people (well, except, of course, visitors to our site!) Know. Well, Collier's revolver, from which, most likely, Colt borrowed the idea of ​​such a weapon, is completely unknown in Russia. But ... here again it is a matter of history and traditions. Moreover, Colt created more than just a revolver. It just so happened that he created a whole school, and this is what put his development "at the forefront".

What does it mean? And so: for Europe, neither a pistol nor a revolver have ever been a symbolic weapon. There were enough carbines and rifles, and this kind of "little things", although they were used in the army, were limited. And in everyday life they were used as a weapon in the doors of carriages and nothing more.

It was not so in a young country overseas. There, weapons in everyday life were more important than anywhere else, and it was short-barreled, multiply charged and powerful. And - most importantly, it allows you to shoot both at close range and at a fairly decent distance. But what can I say: in America they hunted bison with a revolver. Could anyone imagine in Europe hunting a bison or a deer with a revolver?


And this is how it looked after being taken apart for details. Photo www.littlegun.be

Therefore, in the United States, they preferred single-action revolvers, so that, with an easy descent, each shot was on target. In Europe, on the contrary, if you took out a revolver, it means ... you are surrounded by villains at the closest distance from them, and here it is not accuracy that is important, but the rate of fire. That is why, as a rule, all European revolvers had a self-cocking mechanism. No one expected to shoot from them far and accurately, but close - why not?


11mm Davism revolver 1859 Right side view. Photo www.littlegun.be


Left view. Photo www.littlegun.be

Further, the Americans for a long time relied on capsule systems with chamber loading, while in Europe very soon the cartridge systems, under the hairpin cartridges of the Lefoshe design, were not very popular in America. Although very interesting capsule revolvers were also created in Europe. And today we will tell you about one such ...

Revolvers Davisma: beautiful, elegant, self-cocking ...
The drum of the 11 mm Davism revolver of 1859. Note its very thin walls. Photo www.littlegun.be

And it so happened that somewhere in 1863, the commander of the Army of Northern Virginia, General Robert Lee, an anonymous donor presented a magnificent saber with an ivory handle and an engraved blade, made by one of the leading European manufacturers of excellent firearms and blades: Parisian Davis Jean-Louis Francois Davism. General Lee kept this saber for special occasions, but in the end he also gave it to Union General Ulysses S. Grant when he surrendered with his troops at Appomattox on April 9, 1865.


Toothed drive of the cleaning rod-extractor. Photo www.littlegun.be

Another saber made by Davism, the 1822 French cavalry saber, belonged to General Jeb Stewart, and he also made a wonderful .74 caliber sports carbine that fired unique explosive bullets that was used by none other than the President of the Confederation, Jefferson Davis.


The mechanism of the 11-mm revolver Davism 1859. Photo www.littlegun.be

It is no coincidence that such prominent southern leaders owned Davisma products. His company was well known in Europe for its luxurious dueling pistols and equally luxurious sabers, which were in demand all over the world. The company's products have won numerous awards at many international exhibitions and fairs.


9-mm revolver Davism 1860 Photo www.littlegun.be

Born Louis François-Davism (pronounced De Vem!) In 1806, he began his career as a gunsmith in 1834 when he opened a shop at 36 Boulevard Italia in Paris. He quickly established himself as a supplier of high quality goods, his business flourished, and in a relatively short time he became one of the most famous French manufacturers of the mid-XNUMXth century. Davism's products were appreciated by the aristocracy, the military, and ... the bourgeoisie.


In fact, this is the same revolver of 1855, but only richly decorated! And cartridge! Photo www.littlegun.be

After the Englishman Robert Adams successfully challenged Samuel Colt's monopoly on the revolver trade in Europe in 1851, Davism, who invented the early self-cocking mechanism back in the 1830s, was one of those who produced revolvers of his own design. So, in 1854, he patented a unique six-shot single-action revolver, many of the design features of which differed from the works of both Colt and Adams.


One of the features of this revolver, as well as other revolvers of this master, was the location of the trigger. It was installed off-center, and hit the striker, and that one - on the cartridge primer. Photo www.littlegun.be

An interesting feature, clearly manifested in Davism's revolvers, as in the revolvers of other European gunsmiths, was the location of the barrel and drum. On Colt's revolvers, the sighting line of the barrel in relation to the handle was raised high, while in European ones, on the contrary, it was extremely lowered. As a result, in European revolvers, the drum, in fact, was a continuation of the handle, while the famous Colts had the handle below the drum.

An illustrative example of a "European revolver" can be considered the Davism revolver of 1855. The revolver was 320 mm long, the barrel was 155 mm (with eight right-hand grooves) and weighed 1010 grams. Drum for 10,8 mm ogival bullets. The 1860 model looked about the same.


The original design of the handle, isn't it ?! Photo www.littlegun.be

The pistol was extremely elegant and even richly decorated, but it was not suitable for military purposes, because it was very difficult to load.


Another Davism capsule revolver. Photo www.littlegun.be

To charge it, it was necessary to remove the drum from it and unscrew the trickle from the handle. Pour gunpowder into chambers and hammer bullets into them with a punch and hammer. After that, from a special oiler with a piston, resembling a medical syringe with its device, the chambers with bullets had to be covered with pre-prepared bacon. The drum was turned over, primers were put on the brand tubes and it was possible to insert the equipped drum into place. Well, the hammer remained to be screwed back into the handle. That is, the Davisma revolver was practically a disposable weapon. And in this he was inferior to the Colt. He, although with difficulty, could be recharged while sitting in the saddle. But with Davism's revolver, such a number would not have worked!


Here, by pressing the lever on the left, it could be disassembled for reloading ... Photo www.littlegun.be

The Davisma revolver of 1859 had a caliber of 11 mm and was already designed for firing unitary cartridges. Despite its impressive dimensions (length 310 mm, barrel 150 mm), the revolver turned out to be quite light - 890 g without cartridges. However, the latter is not surprising. Apparently, it was not designed for firing cartridges with an enhanced charge. The revolver had a hinged frame. The lever in front of the barrel rotated 90 ° and made it possible to swing down the barrel with the drum for loading. The device for extracting spent cartridges was also original. It was attached to a sleeve that rotated freely on the barrel, but with sockets for gear teeth under the barrel. By rotating this gear, it was possible to turn the clutch with a ramrod to the position for ejecting the liner. The drum was locked with a special leaf spring that held it in place during the shot! In addition, it was also fixed in the position for the shot with a special pin, which protruded from the frame of the revolver when the hammer was cocked and held it in the proper position for re-cocking. Thus, when the hammer was cocked, there was no need to fear that a shot from the revolver would not occur due to accidental cranking of the drum. This revolver was used both during the American Civil War and during the Franco-Prussian War of 1870.


The trigger on the right and does not hit the primers. But they are hit by the firing pin located in the center inside the frame of the revolver. Photo www.littlegun.be

The Davisma revolvers were especially popular with French officers, and a significant number of them also ended up in Mexico during Napoleon III's short adventure. In addition, they were seen in both shock and cartridge versions during the Franco-Prussian War, along with many other types of pistols, including surplus weapons from the American Civil War.


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P.S. Personally, I do not really like weapons covered with gilding, embossing and carving. A weapon is a thing of utilitarian purpose, it should be beautiful in its functionality. But ... in the days of Davisma, they thought differently. However, lovers of "golden machine guns" and pistols are found even now!
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  1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
    Kote Pan Kokhanka 10 January 2022 04: 44
    +12
    The weapon is more than original, or rather collectible for piece production.
    Thanks for the article, sincerely Vlad!
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 10 January 2022 05: 14
      +5
      Vlad hi - the main thing is that it looks aesthetically pleasing! Indeed, a truly beautiful pistol with smooth contours, pleasing to the eye!
      1. kalibr
        10 January 2022 08: 10
        +6
        Quote: Thrifty
        beautiful pistol with smooth contours, pleasing to the eye!

        I also liked it for this very thing. That's why I wrote about him!
        1. kalibr
          10 January 2022 08: 18
          +6
          Oh, the miner wrestler woke up. Good morning!
          1. depressant
            depressant 10 January 2022 10: 45
            +9
            Do not be afraid, Vyacheslav Olegovich!
            There is always a wrestler-plus for every wrestler-minus.
            Newton's law wassat )))
            1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
              Kote Pan Kokhanka 10 January 2022 19: 42
              +6
              Quote: depressant
              Do not be afraid, Vyacheslav Olegovich!
              There is always a wrestler-plus for every wrestler-minus.
              Newton's law wassat )))

              The trouble is not in the minuses or the pluses. The problem is that instead of a pragmatic and productive presentation of its disagreement, the "hamster", using its "incognito" status, molds a minus, for the sake of a minus.
              I still found a time when the pros and cons were vowels. The participant could see who supported his comment and who disagreed. The works of the Authors were also evaluated. So people walked around with skulls and gray shoulder straps, but there was no current limitlessness either. With all the seemingly rigid structure of "dumping", the administration and members of the forum were more tolerant of each other. Many comrades, in principle, did not put cons for years. Even for many years the missing flag tag motivated human respect for each other. For example, seeing the flag of Bulgaria or Serbia, the majority did not allow themselves to poke non-native speakers with errors and typos in the text. It seems that all these are conventions and formalities, but in my opinion the site has lost a lot in its originality by abandoning such chips.
              hi
              1. depressant
                depressant 10 January 2022 20: 50
                +4
                I still caught the flags, and then they suddenly disappeared. And I found a situation when, to the offended exclamation, they say, well, who put me a minus, they answered, and you, they say, click and see. I didn't care about all of this. And now I understand that the abolition of all this good was necessary for the distribution of people according to the types of sociability. This is how the "Shpakovsky Sect" arose. wassat )))
                There are probably other "sects" as well. It is easier for the people who enter them to live. It's one thing when you go to the news, where young tigers do not know you, do not recognize your authority and try to earn theirs at the expense of your humiliation, and quite another thing when you go to visit some Authors (I mean their articles), and there a society of good friends has already gathered. It's like in the Master's house, at the end of the book. And you can talk not only about a given topic, but about everything in the world, which allows you to feel not a faceless nickname, but a person.
                1. Bond, James Bond
                  Bond, James Bond 10 January 2022 23: 48
                  0
                  Quote: depressant
                  It's one thing when you go to the news, where young tigers do not know you, do not recognize your authority.

                  and this is on the one hand more honest. Because how they evaluate what are you writing, not who writes... The "tigers", as you called them, sometimes have bright thoughts and opinions, much brighter than those of the "authoritative" bonzes.

                  And in the "Shpak's house" (or in any other "house") you behave like a guest. You won't tell the owner that he doesn't care about the floor, the food from the nearest eatery is expired, and instead of brandy, diluted alcohol? You either modestly keep silent, so as not to offend the owner, or pay a compliment on an abstract topic, and in any case pretend that you like everything. What a wonderful fireplace you have (it’s good that it doesn’t work, otherwise it would smoke). Education and the laws of being a guest! But how is objectivity here? Or are the articles and materials here just to compliment and compliment the author (pleasant)?
                  And you can feel yourself as a person everywhere, if, of course, you are really a person.

                  And yes, it’s really funny at times, sort of like an article about a specific weapon, but here “hello, Slava”, “And you, Nicodemus!”
                  1. depressant
                    depressant 11 January 2022 00: 02
                    +5
                    Good evening, dear colleague!)))
                    And in the "Shpak's house" (or in any other "house") you behave like a guest. You won't tell the owner that he doesn't give a damn about the floor, the food from the nearest eatery is expired, and instead of brandy, diluted alcohol

                    How wrong you are! If you only knew how from time to time our polite community screw up "Shpak" and other Authors wassat )))
                    It's just that you are here recently and do not know everything. And ... check back often, I liked your journalistic style. Not everyone is able to express their thoughts so well - in contrast to the young "tigers", by which I mean people with a short stay in the VO, regardless of their real age.
                    1. kalibr
                      11 January 2022 08: 24
                      +2
                      Quote: depressant
                      And ... check back often, I liked your journalistic style.

                      And he also has - in his own words - his own blog in which he, with his journalistic style, obviously writes excellent articles. Ask him to give you the address. Maybe you, as a woman, Bond will meet halfway. Despite the most persistent requests, he did not give me!
                  2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
                    Kote Pan Kokhanka 11 January 2022 02: 04
                    +5
                    And yes, it’s really funny at times, sort of like an article about a specific weapon, but here “hello, Slava”, “And you, Nicodemus!”

                    Good night! Personal communication has always been and will be, and forgive my tautology, all attempts to get rid of the rudiments of verbal ethics on virtual pages will fail. Wine is our sociality.
                    I liked the expression “Visiting the Author”. Why not, especially if the Author accompanies his work. Finds time for comments and clarifications. True, this at one time provoked the situation "throw the Professor's stone", when all and sundry for the sake of hype (in the form of pluses) tried to blame Vyacheslav Shpakovsky unfounded. Even you, considering yourself a "Personality", allow yourself a rough familiarity in the throw "Shpak". How is this more tactful "hello Nicodemus"?
                    What everyone calls the "Shpakovsky sect" in fact, has nothing to do with Vyacheslav Olegovich, this is a spontaneous community of people who adhere to traditional views of history. No more and no less.
                    Well, the last kind word to the Author, for the work done by him, is the norm for me! Everyone has their own values ​​and views.
                    1. kalibr
                      11 January 2022 08: 19
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                      Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
                      Everyone has their own values ​​and views.

                      It's just that, Vladislav, yesterday the person didn't like that in response to his statement that he was already writing articles of rare quality on his own blog, I and another reader started asking him for an address. Well, what would be easier, right? But no, our Bond wriggled like under the pitchfork, proceeded with a mass of beautiful phrases, but did not give a machine gun, that is, an address. Well, they wrote to him that the deep minus in which he sits with him is well deserved. Well, offended, of course. And he joined the ranks of the "fighters against Shpakovsky". The pressed testicles do not give rest!
                    2. vladcub
                      vladcub 11 January 2022 08: 25
                      +3
                      Namesake, greetings. For you ++: "everyone has their own values ​​and views" I will continue: "I need to respect the views of other people"
                    3. depressant
                      depressant 11 January 2022 10: 08
                      +1
                      Even you, considering yourself a "Personality", allow yourself a rough familiarity in the throw "Shpak". How is this more tactful "hello Nicodemus"?

                      If you tell me, then it was irony towards the author of the post)))
                      I highly respect Vyacheslav Olegovich for his ability to provoke political controversy with non-political articles. It is given to very few people. In addition, he is a very kind, sympathetic person. There are very few people like him in our time of extreme brutality.
                      1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
                        Kote Pan Kokhanka 11 January 2022 11: 04
                        +1
                        By no means, not even in thoughts! hi
              2. not main
                not main 11 January 2022 00: 08
                +4
                Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
                Kote pane Kohanka (Vladislav) Today, 19:42 N

                I found the same time and remember very well! I fully support you! I think that the site has lost a lot due to innovations!
              3. vladcub
                vladcub 11 January 2022 08: 16
                +2
                "the site has lost a lot" I still found the flags. When I saw the flags: the USA or Israel, I was proud of the site: even there they know our site
            2. vladcub
              vladcub 11 January 2022 08: 05
              +3
              Lyudmila Yakovlevna, bravo: well said
          2. vladcub
            vladcub 11 January 2022 08: 02
            +4
            V. Oh, probably, the minuser just woke up and stuck it without reading
            minus. If I hadn't read it
            PS. Yesterday I forgot to look at "Armament", and today I am correcting
            1. kalibr
              11 January 2022 08: 08
              +1
              Quote: vladcub
              Yesterday I forgot to look at "Armament", and today I am correcting

              Check out the WEAPON today. It will be about an interesting pistol ...
              1. vladcub
                vladcub 11 January 2022 08: 26
                +2
                Thanks for the tip
  2. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 10 January 2022 05: 08
    +2
    As a result, in European revolvers, the drum, in fact, was a continuation of the handle, while in the famous Colts the handle was below the drum.
    This is the result of some inertia, or rather a look at the "pistols", because later this layout was abandoned in favor of a more compact "Kolt" and even with a powerful frame. So what is more important here, kmk, is the relative position of the trigger and the drum.
    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 10 January 2022 05: 27
      +8
      In terms of grip comfort, the pistols are superior to modern pistols and revolvers. Previously, it was customary to shoot from an outstretched hand, bringing the weapon as close as possible to the enemy. Recoil was transmitted to the body, and given the caliber of the pistols (from 12 mm and above), it was "hoo". In addition, Davison's revolvers had a lower barrel, a higher grip. It was very convenient to get it out of the holster (the minimum number of protruding parts), the only thing was spoiled by the heavy trigger stroke and the difficult reloading.
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 10 January 2022 05: 43
        +2
        Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
        In terms of grip comfort, the pistols are superior to modern pistols and revolvers.
        To the point, but compactness won out by a large margin, and now similar handles are applicable either in sports or in rifle-guns (semi-pistol)
      2. Catfish
        Catfish 10 January 2022 07: 01
        +5
        The pistols are superior in grip comfort to modern pistols and revolvers

        But I'm not at all sure whether it will slide and crawl in a sweaty or wet hand, especially when recoil, which is almost impossible on modern trunks.
        Even the very first Colt Patterson was, in my opinion, more convenient to use, there was a point to stop when firing.
        1. The leader of the Redskins
          The leader of the Redskins 10 January 2022 08: 01
          +1
          Good morning, Uncle Kostya. But it is interesting - could a shooter from a Davisma revolver have a spare / not loaded drums with him? Probably, it would be more effective not to stuff the removed one, but simply replace it with another one and fire half a dozen more bullets at the villains!)
          1. Catfish
            Catfish 10 January 2022 15: 04
            +1
            Hi Igor. smile
            I don’t know for sure, but a quick drum change was clearly foreseen.

            Patterson, on the other hand, had a spare drum in his kit.
        2. Vladimir_2U
          Vladimir_2U 10 January 2022 08: 23
          +3
          Quote: Sea Cat
          the first Colt Patterson was

          Great grip for hitting your own forehead! laughing
          1. Catfish
            Catfish 10 January 2022 15: 00
            0
            Well, you can foolishly and ... break everything. wink
        3. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 10 January 2022 13: 40
          +2
          in a sweaty or wet hand, it will slide and crawl,
          And nefig sweaty little hands to grab the bagpipe! tongue
          1. Catfish
            Catfish 10 January 2022 14: 59
            +3
            But this does not depend on the user. request
            1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
              Kote Pan Kokhanka 10 January 2022 19: 04
              +5
              Even the very first Colt Patterson was, in my opinion, more convenient to use, there was a point to stop when firing.

              Every man to his own taste!!! laughing
              The problem is different. Various schools of shooting skills. The European is a money-grubber of the traditions of equestrian pistol combat from the medieval Reitars. At a gallop he stretched out his hand towards the enemy. You pull your thumb into the body of the enemy, with your index finger you pull the trigger. Even a fly with a whole is not necessary to hit with 10 steps.
              Single-action revolvers of the new world were fired from a bent arm, against the chest or through the elbow. The trigger was cocked with the other hand. Maximum shots in minimum time. Today they shoot with two hands from a frontal stand, aim with two eyes, pull the thumbs of both hands towards the target. Tony people are adapting to the "inconvenience" of pistols and revolvers, for the sake of their compactness, multiple charges and rate of fire. Moreover, everyone who held Margolin or Luger 08 in his hand will say that they are more comfortable (grip) than PM or PPK. Even the bulky Mauser 96 has a better grip than the Glock or Yarygin.
              1. Catfish
                Catfish 10 January 2022 20: 21
                +2
                Single-action revolvers of the new world were fired from a bent arm, against the chest or through the elbow. The trigger was cocked with the other hand. Maximum shots in minimum time.

                The so-called "Mill" shooting.
              2. Altona
                Altona 13 January 2022 19: 54
                +1
                Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
                Moreover, everyone who held Margolin or Luger 08 in his hand will say that they are more convenient (grasping) than PM or PPK. Even the bulky Mauser 96, the grip is better than that of Glock or Yarygin.

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                I agree. I have pneumatic copies of the Nagant and Mauser, and there is a Walther-shaped (PDP type) pneumatic pistol. The old weapon is more comfortable in the grip.
    2. kalibr
      10 January 2022 08: 09
      +7
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      This is the result of some inertia, or rather a look at the "pistols"

      Exactly. In Europe there was a "school", there were traditions ... the force of habit. And in America they started with 0 and it turned out well. This also happens.
      1. Altona
        Altona 13 January 2022 20: 25
        +1
        Quote: kalibr
        And in America they started from 0 and it turned out well.

        --------------------------
        As with a certain Austrian entrepreneur Gaston Glock, who, while engaged in the construction business, unexpectedly entered a tender to provide the army with pistol weapons and completely unexpectedly won. hi
  3. Thrifty
    Thrifty 10 January 2022 05: 12
    +6
    Vyacheslav hi about decorating weapons with gold, and even for practical use here I agree with you! Now, if this is a donative, piecework, then, in the aisles of the rational, you can, for example, decorate the handle with some kind of artistic ornament. I will not go hunting with this one, I shot it, cleaned it, and let it be kept in a box made of bulletproof glass, and others are pleased to see, and the temptation to constantly pick up will disappear! hi
    1. kalibr
      10 January 2022 08: 06
      +5
      I personally like only the mother-of-pearl handle from the decoration in pistols, and then only on "ladies' pistols". Even the bones on the big military seem superfluous to me. But the ladies' ... they have something of a powder box in them-ha-ha. Although in a collection from this I would not refuse of course.
      1. depressant
        depressant 10 January 2022 10: 51
        +6
        Something is making me laugh today. Would you mind a powder compact? wassat )))
        1. kalibr
          10 January 2022 12: 30
          +4
          Quote: depressant
          Would you mind a powder compact?

          Especially for you I will write material about "pearlescent pistols".
          1. depressant
            depressant 10 January 2022 12: 45
            +5
            Vyacheslav Olegovich, kindness must have boundaries. Don't exaggerate my fascination with mother-of-pearl. The other day I was digging in the deposits on the shelf in the pantry and found ... a cosmetic bag! It turns out that I used it once. So, there was a powder box in the form of a shell of a small rapana, trimmed with metal to resemble gold. A neat little thing. Probably, it would fit well into the wardrobe together with the pistols you presented. Sighing, she put it back. Now I have a radically different idea of ​​the beauty of weapons and the need for powder boxes.
            1. kalibr
              10 January 2022 16: 02
              +1
              Quote: depressant
              So, there was a powder box in the form of a shell of a small rapana, trimmed with metal to resemble gold.

              I love these things very much. At one time, back in the USSR, I bought Czech perfume bottles for my wife in "gold" with a braided figurine with "precious stones". Plucked decently. But it was impossible to buy them all the time. And now we were in the Czech Republic - there are ... showcases. But now you can't buy everything. There are no so many perfumes and where to wear and to whom to show?
          2. Catfish
            Catfish 10 January 2022 16: 09
            +5
            Something so-so, or even somehow cooler. smile


            Vyacheslav, good afternoon and thank you! smile The article is good! good
        2. Catfish
          Catfish 10 January 2022 16: 12
          0
          Would you mind a powder compact?


          From this, right? wink

          1. depressant
            depressant 10 January 2022 16: 16
            +5
            Kostya, I would not refuse a pistol, but a powder box imitating a pistol is easy! The time is now such that the original is in demand imitation.
            1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
              Kote Pan Kokhanka 10 January 2022 19: 22
              +3
              Quote: depressant
              Something is making me laugh today. Would you mind a powder compact? wassat )))

              Uh-huh, in the form of a Maxim machine gun, on Sokolov's machine! laughing love
              He gave a line on the wall. You can also powder the nose with plaster, and if you clean it in the barrel, then paint your eyebrows !!!
              1. depressant
                depressant 10 January 2022 19: 35
                +2
                So this will turn out a clown wassat )))
            2. Altona
              Altona 13 January 2022 19: 59
              +1
              Quote: depressant
              Kostya, I wouldn't refuse a gun

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              Do your hands miss the revolutionary Mauser or Nagan, Lyudmila Alekseevna? laughing
              1. depressant
                depressant 13 January 2022 20: 17
                +1
                Hands miss the revolutionary Mauser or Nagant


                You don’t understand anything.
                There is no greater opponent of any Maidans and revolutions here than I am. A gun as protection against intrusion into a dwelling. But I only have a heavy cast iron skillet.
                1. Altona
                  Altona 13 January 2022 20: 22
                  +1
                  Quote: depressant
                  There is no greater opponent of any Maidans and revolutions here than I am. A gun as protection against intrusion into a dwelling.

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                  Well, I'm joking, Lyudmila Alekseevna. With a gun, with all your desire, you will not do anything in terms of revolution. In general, a revolution is primarily a change in the social system, and not an armed rebellion. Second, read the Gun Law. Third, in principle, for self-defense, there are pistol-shaped structures that fire aerosols or flash-noise cartridges. Third, in principle, I received a tangible injury from an air pistol by shooting myself in the foot recently. A big bruise on my foot.
    2. alex-cn
      alex-cn 12 January 2022 17: 42
      +1
      I agree with this statement. Good engraving and gilding is for hunting and ceremonial weapons, especially in Europe with its centuries-old traditions of hunting "parades". For combat, this is simply not needed, there is only functionality ...
      although, as they say, "a beautiful plane cannot fly"
    3. Altona
      Altona 13 January 2022 19: 56
      +1
      Quote: Thrifty
      Now, if this is a gift, piece product, then, within the limits of reason, you can decorate the handle, for example, with some kind of artistic ornament.

      -------------------------
      Well, with such chasing and decorations, it definitely looks like award and gift samples. There is no such dry brutality inherent in weapons.
  4. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 10 January 2022 05: 12
    +2
    However, lovers of "golden machine guns" and pistols are found even now!

    And I like the gilded Kalashnikov ... beauty.
    And so Davism's revolver reminds zagugolin ... what the shooter feels when holding this hook in his hand ... how comfortable was it?
    Thank you for the article Vyacheslav ... it was informative. hi
    1. kalibr
      10 January 2022 08: 07
      +5
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      it was informative.

      Glad you liked it. I just can't say what the shooter feels with him in his hands. Alas, I didn't.
      1. depressant
        depressant 10 January 2022 10: 59
        +5
        What does the shooter feel?
        And you imagine that you are squeezing the steering wheel of a children's car in your hand, and you still have to shoot. The fingers have joints, therefore they bend, and the bones of the palm do not have joints, they do not bend, therefore the palm of the handle of such a pistol is extremely unergonomic. A modern pistol is much more convenient.
    2. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 10 January 2022 17: 23
      +1
      And I like the gilded Kalashnikov ... beauty.

  5. Undecim
    Undecim 10 January 2022 08: 48
    +9
    Born Louis François-Davism (pronounced De Vem!) In 1806, he began his career as a gunsmith in 1834 when he opened a shop at 36 Boulevard Italia in Paris.


    Louis-Francois Devisme began his career as a gunsmith a little earlier, around the beginning of the 1820s, when he entered the apprenticeship of the famous Parisian gunsmith Jean-Louis Deboubert, a companion of Nicolas Noel Boutet.
    He opened his first store in 1834 on the Rue du Elder, where wealthy Parisians lived. In Dumas' novel "The Count of Monte Cristo", Albert de Morser lived on this street. Davism moved to Italian Boulevard in 1850.
  6. Undecim
    Undecim 10 January 2022 08: 55
    +10
    P.S. Personally, I do not really like weapons covered with gilding, embossing and carving. A weapon is a thing of utilitarian purpose, it should be beautiful in its functionality. But ... in the days of Davisma, they thought differently. However, lovers of "golden machine guns" and pistols are found even now!

    Comparing "golden assault rifles" and artistic decoration of weapons is the same as comparing advertising posters for diapers with paintings by Rembrandt or Aivazovsky.
  7. depressant
    depressant 10 January 2022 10: 24
    +5
    And it so happened that somewhere in 1863, the commander of the Army of Northern Virginia, General Robert Lee ...


    I read and read, trying to get to the place where the intrigue was explained, and did not find that place.
    So how was it, Vyacheslav Olegovich? wassat )))
    1. Undecim
      Undecim 10 January 2022 12: 09
      +9
      I read and read, trying to get to the place where the intrigue was explained, and did not find that place.
      So how was it, Vyacheslav Olegovich?


      And it was like that. Once upon a time there was a certain Richard Tyson in Baltimore. His father, the famous industrialist Isaac Tyson, left him in trust with one-eighth of his fortune - a part in the amount of about $ 109, which allowed Tyson not to worry too much about his daily bread. Richard Tyson seemed to be a supporter of the Confederation, but he decided to wait out the Civil War in Europe, where he left with his new wife on a honeymoon trip. Traveling around Europe, Tyson naturally visited Paris, and in Paris - Davisma's store. The skill of the last Tyson was so impressed that he ordered a saber for General Lee, which he asked to deliver to the destination of Colonel McCulloch, who was at that time in Paris.
      The donor's name was established in 2015, when a letter to his nephews, Edward Lee Child and Blanche de Trigety Child, was found in General Lee's archive, from which it became known who gave the general the saber.
      And General Grant did not take the saber from Lee, admired it and gave it back.
  8. Grim Reaper
    Grim Reaper 10 January 2022 10: 38
    +9
    Moreover, if you ask "who invented the revolver", then in 80% of cases the answer will be the same - "Colt, of course."
    + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
    I think that in 80% of cases there will be bewildered silence. :)

    IN. Thank.
    1. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 10 January 2022 20: 19
      +2
      Quote: Grim Reaper
      Moreover, if you ask "who invented the revolver", then in 80% of cases the answer will be the same - "Colt, of course."
      I think that in 80% of cases there will be bewildered silence. :)

      This is probably the case when it is better to chew (or be silent) than to speak! Don’t be hasty to hand over the laurels of the inventor of the revolver to Colt! Many already know that before the "invention" of his gun, Colt got acquainted with the design of Collier!




      Many arms historians have come to the conclusion that Colt is not a talented gunsmith, inventor; "just" a talented, energetic, calculating businessman! After all, when Colt wanted to get a real revolver, he turned to gunsmith John Pearson! Take a look at the early Colt and J. Pearson revolvers ... compare!

      Colt.


      Revolvers by John Pearson. 1835 g.
      And by and large it is possible to cite as an example 3 more revolving samples of the pre-Coltian period! Moreover, "percussion" (that is, "capsule"!) The first will be Lenormand's revolver arr. 1815 ... the second: revolver Francesco Brocca (1833 / Italy ... Sardinia ... Why Brocca, having made a capsule revolver, did not patent it!) The third "sample" is attributed to Charles Shirk ... who is said to have assembled something revolving on the basis of Collier's drum gun and Mariette's primer mechanism (Yes! I almost forgot ... there were also Collier's revolving guns!)
  9. depressant
    depressant 10 January 2022 13: 48
    +8
    I would not like to touch on the bad, but in the light of recent events, it itself asks.
    General Robert with the Chinese surname Li. The one who received a beautiful saber as a gift. Sweet! It was under his leadership that civilized Americans during the Civil War introduced the practice of throwing babies and catching them with a bayonet.
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 10 January 2022 14: 14
      +3
      Lyudmila Yakovlevna, do not read Yankee propaganda at night)
    2. Nikolaevich I
      Nikolaevich I 10 January 2022 17: 42
      +1
      Quote: depressant
      General Robert with the Chinese surname Li.

      And who invented jeans then? A general with a Chinese surname or another Chinese !? request
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 10 January 2022 17: 57
        +2
        Morris Kupper, British.
        1. depressant
          depressant 10 January 2022 18: 39
          +4
          The oldest pair of jeans was found in 1998 in a mine abandoned for 115 years. Well, and jeans mean the same knock.
  10. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 10 January 2022 14: 13
    +2
    That is, the Davisma revolver was practically a disposable weapon.
    Crap. As soon as Mr. Shpakovsky passes from description to any reasoning, he is right there that ... that ....! Well, not given to a person! Why every time ...
    We take the drum. We charge it. Then ... to the pubs ... take another drum! Then the third! And so as long as there is enough pocket) In the saddle, with one press of the lever, we disconnect the weapon, put on a loaded drum and continue to shoot. Anything is more convenient than trying to hit a cartridge in the chamber, sprinkling ammunition (not endless) on the prairies and plains. And we load the drums in the evening, at a halt, if we survived during the day. By the way, the bison was killed by shooting it in the ear from three or less steps. In Europe, this type of "hunting" and the truth could not spread)
    It’s bad if a cake-maker starts to make boots, and a shoemaker starts to bake pies ...
    1. kalibr
      10 January 2022 16: 08
      +6
      Fritter. In theory, Mikhail, it's beautiful. In fact, it won’t work, and it’s not for nothing that no one did it, and spare drums for this revolver were not sold in the kit. You just couldn't buy them. One revolver, one drum. And they didn’t use the technique that you invented. Because it is inconvenient to carry equipped drums in your pocket. Capsules may fly off brand tubes. So they preferred to "sprinkle the prairie" ...
      1. John22
        John22 11 January 2022 12: 54
        +1
        An additional drum can be purchased at an additional cost. Colt sold it as a kit to expand its capabilities. he was the first seller.
        1. kalibr
          11 January 2022 14: 26
          -1
          Quote: John22
          Colt sold it as a kit to expand its capabilities.

          And what kind of revolver are we talking about?
    2. Catfish
      Catfish 10 January 2022 17: 05
      +1
      By the way, the bison was killed by shooting it in the ear from three or less steps.


      Yeah, and the buffalo, he is such an eccentric that he let the shooters "three steps" laughing ... Maybe they still finished off the wounded animal?
      1. kalibr
        10 January 2022 18: 29
        +4
        Well, as soon as Mikhail tries to write at least something sensible, he immediately does this ... this ....! So the bison will give you an ear, and even at that frantic gallop on which the hunt was going. Here God forbid to hit the bison itself!
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 10 January 2022 18: 42
          +4
          As a child, I remember, I read the book by Bret Hart "Steppe Foundling", so there was an episode where the hero was locked in a canyon by a bison, the guy shot him several times in the head with a "Colt", but all the lead bullets flattened and bounced off his forehead. That's how many years have passed, and I still remember. smile
          1. kalibr
            10 January 2022 19: 13
            +4
            Lucky you!
      2. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 10 January 2022 19: 20
        +2
        No, that's how it was. The bison walked along the prairie without fear of anyone. Colossal herds. The Indians actually lived in paradise. Paradise was very primitive, but real. With mountains of meat for lunch on demand. In our understanding, this cannot be called hunting, people just went to the prairie for meat.
        When, in the sense of the Indians, they finally decided to exterminate them, they began to exterminate the buffalo. They shot them in different ways, Buffalo Bill generally preferred from a moving train) The herd of several thousand heads did not increase speed, did not scatter until they killed up to two-thirds. And when he left (not at all in fear), from the iron track, Buffalo just drove on. To another herd. And this remnant will unite with another ... The prairie was strewn with rotting carcasses, hundreds of thousands of tons of meat. It's not even easy to imagine, but it was)
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 10 January 2022 20: 15
          +1
          Yeah, lovely Indians from paradise ... When they got their hands on firearms, then they began mass shooting of bison, and only a delicacy was cut out of the killed animal - the tongue, and the carcass was thrown to coyotes. So don't talk about Cody, what he shot does not go in any comparison with how much the Indians killed.
  11. depressant
    depressant 10 January 2022 15: 20
    +6
    In fact, dear friends, I believe that weapons should not be beautiful, they should have a formidable appearance. And then she presented a picture: two officers go out to a duel, approach each other, holding their pistols on outstretched hands. Oh, says one, what a pretty gun you have! And who is the master? Oh, this one, and I have that one ... They come up, examine each other's weapons, a lively conversation ensues, then - reconciliation, a joint trip to girls and gypsies with bears. But if only so!
    Killed each other and from the "pretty". But somehow it is not comilfo to die from this. There is something inexpressibly vulgar, Eastern satrap in the decoration of weapons, little truly masculine in such a moment.
    1. Undecim
      Undecim 10 January 2022 16: 03
      +7
      In fact, dear friends, I believe that weapons should not be beautiful, they should have a formidable appearance.



      Indeed, if we compare these two pistols, the first one is much more formidable. One kind can be disheartened. And the second - yes, satrapsak vulgarity.
      1. Catfish
        Catfish 10 January 2022 16: 38
        +4
        We take the "golden" mean. laughing
      2. Grim Reaper
        Grim Reaper 10 January 2022 19: 23
        +3
        Weapons must kill. And point .. if only I hadn’t gotten drunk as they would argue now.
    2. Catfish
      Catfish 10 January 2022 16: 04
      +4
      Luda, good afternoon. smile
      In duels, as a rule, twin pistols were used and they were decorated in the same way, so there would be no reason for a "joint trip to the girls" in this regard. request
      1. depressant
        depressant 10 January 2022 16: 20
        +4
        Good afternoon, Kostya! Yes, I know about these boxes with twin pistols, I just wanted to be pinned. Otherwise - longing, darkness is approaching. Even the periodically emerging sun does not dissipate it.
  12. CHEREDA73
    CHEREDA73 10 January 2022 16: 02
    +7
    was the location of the barrel and drum. On Colt revolvers, the sighting line of the barrel in relation to the handle was raised high, while in European it was, on the contrary, extremely low

    If we consider the forces acting during the shot and the moments that arise during this, then the European approach is more correct.
    Colt seemed to be thinking more about convenience.
    1. Catfish
      Catfish 10 January 2022 16: 34
      +6
      Colt was mainly thinking about money. laughing hi
      1. CHEREDA73
        CHEREDA73 10 January 2022 18: 28
        +5
        Yes, I missed this moment lol
  13. Undecim
    Undecim 10 January 2022 18: 10
    +5
    Could anyone imagine in Europe hunting a bison or a deer with a revolver?

    Judging by this pistol, there were also hunters with rich imaginations in Europe.
    1. CHEREDA73
      CHEREDA73 10 January 2022 19: 05
      +3
      The butt is already asking for here, like a Mauser 96 wassat
  14. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 10 January 2022 21: 16
    +1
    Davism is somewhat reminiscent of hammerless (in-hammer) revolvers ... and in it the hammer hits the firing pin, and only then the firing pin strikes the primer ... In the 19th century, several “hammerless” revolvers were produced ...



    1.Smith and Wesson; 2. Johnson, 3. Harrington and Richardson ... there were others.
  15. Bogatyrev
    Bogatyrev 11 January 2022 01: 03
    0
    What prevented the use of removable drums?
    1. kalibr
      11 January 2022 14: 29
      0
      In the pocket, the capsules could fly off the brand tubes.
      1. John22
        John22 11 January 2022 18: 51
        +1
        Was it impossible to carry drums in a special box?
  16. Two
    Two 11 January 2022 13: 56
    +1
    Clearly, concretely, beautifully, accessible and without water!
  17. John22
    John22 11 January 2022 14: 22
    +2
    In Britain, Robert Adams created his revolver (Model 1851). double acting only because he wanted to circumvent Colt's patent. He began work in 1849, and Colt's British patent expired on October 22.10.1849, 1851. By 1851, Adams had finished the revolver and demonstrated it in May XNUMX at the World Exhibition in London. And most importantly, the Adams revolver had a closed frame and was stronger.
  18. Terran ghost
    Terran ghost 14 January 2022 09: 52
    -1
    A weapon is a thing of a utilitarian purpose, it should be beautiful in its functionality.

    It’s just a thing here - starting from a certain price level, a hunting weapon is already a “sign of the high property status of its owner”, and not a utilitarian tool for actually hunting an animal or bird.
    Moreover, if you ask "who invented the revolver", then in 80% of cases the answer will be one - "Colt, of course." The fact that, in fact, a pistol with a drum magazine was first invented and manufactured in Europe, few people (well, except, of course, the visitors of our site!) Know.

    Even more than that - the first revolvers appeared a couple of centuries before the birth of comrade. Colt. It's just that the Colt revolver became the first relatively massive weapon of this type.