Military Review

In connection with the events in Kazakhstan, the security of the Baikonur cosmodrome has been strengthened

92

In connection with the events in the Republic of Kazakhstan, the issue of safety at the Baikonur cosmodrome has become especially acute. The object is of strategic importance, and both its further functionality and the safety of the persons staying there depend on the level of protection.


The head of Roscosmos Dmitry Rogozin, commenting on the situation, noted that the work of the Baikonur cosmodrome is currently going on in a regular mode, the headquarters is monitoring the situation in the city as a whole.

At the same time, Dmitry Rogozin emphasized that in connection with the situation in Kazakhstan, the security of the cosmodrome and its key facilities was strengthened. We are talking about the armed guard of the territory.

Recall that some time ago, a state of emergency was introduced throughout Kazakhstan in connection with protests and terrorist activity. It got to the real fighting in the south of the country with the participation of airborne units. Against this background, the strengthening of the protection of the cosmodrome leased by the Russian Federation looks more than justified.

For reference: the territory of the cosmodrome is 6717 km². Baikonur and the city of the same name form the Baikonur complex. It is leased by Russia until 2050.

Meanwhile, representatives of the American administration made a statement. The White House "called for a de-escalation of the situation and the search for a compromise between the authorities and the protesters." I wonder what "compromise" is meant? How was it in February 2014 in Ukraine? ..
Photos used:
Roscosmos / Baikonur
92 comments
Ad

Subscribe to our Telegram channel, regularly additional information about the special operation in Ukraine, a large amount of information, videos, something that does not fall on the site: https://t.me/topwar_official

Information
Dear reader, to leave comments on the publication, you must sign in.
  1. aszzz888
    aszzz888 6 January 2022 03: 13
    +8
    Against this background, the strengthening of the protection of the cosmodrome leased by the Russian Federation looks more than justified.
    I believe that the security of this facility is more than worthy and will be strengthened accordingly.
    1. Finches
      Finches 6 January 2022 04: 05
      +25
      Under the pretext of defending Baikonur, it is possible and necessary to bring in Russian troops - to lose Kazakhstan for us, so that it, like Ukraine, falls under the Anglo-Saxons, this will be a geopolitical failure of the entire GDP policy!
      1. bayard
        bayard 6 January 2022 04: 26
        +11
        As far as I understand, they are already being introduced. To Alma-Ata and Baikonur.
        1. Finches
          Finches 6 January 2022 04: 30
          +2
          There is movement, many in the Central Military District were put in the barracks, that's for sure!
          1. bayard
            bayard 6 January 2022 04: 45
            +6
            Quote: Finches
            , many in the Central Military District were put in the barracks, that's for sure!

            Even so ... Generally great. So the genitals in power have really gotten stronger.
        2. SSR
          SSR 6 January 2022 07: 26
          +10
          Quote: bayard
          As far as I understand, they are already being introduced. To Alma-Ata and Baikonur.

          Imkha Ramzanovskys should be sent to Alma-Ata.
          In Syria, they did not show themselves badly + terrorists with the Syrian experience are operating in Kazakhstan, it is necessary to clean up.
          There are "activists" from Kyrgyzstan, Belarus and Ukraine, under the "guise" of all it is necessary to emasculate.
          1. bayard
            bayard 6 January 2022 07: 51
            +9
            Quote: SSR
            Imkha Ramzanovskys should be sent to Alma-Ata.

            I just wrote about this on a nearby forum.
            Ramzan is an excellent connoisseur of the Koran and a skillful mentor for the inadequate. And his special forces have proved themselves well not only in the Caucasus (catching and re-educating "abreks"), but also in Syria.
            Moreover, quite recently, Ramzan himself expressed his readiness to establish peace and order in Ukraine, he was only waiting for an order. So the time has come and the occasion has appeared, where his talents are in full demand.
            In Alma-Ata, it seems like the bandits seized the airport, the Kazakh paratroopers fought with them ... And the airport is needed, first of all, for the quick transfer of peacekeepers.
            Otherwise, a decision has already been made and the implementation of the introduction of the combined forces of peacekeepers of the CSTO countries has begun. Everything that happens cannot be categorized otherwise than - foreign intervention by the forces of terrorist gangs. It was to eliminate such threats that the CSTO was created. The time has come to show the ability of this organization to act quickly, harmoniously and HARD.
            Terrorists are fighting not just with policemen, but also with the army of Kazakhstan. There are casualties among the security forces and civilians, a wave of pogroms and robberies, vandalism and violence (in the direct - physiological sense of this term) rolls across the country. And by definition, no negotiations with terrorists can be conducted - only physical liquidation.
            An anti-terrorist operation was launched that night. The forces of the CSTO are already moving forward to help the Kazakh military and the Ministry of Internal Affairs ... everything needs to be finished extremely quickly and HARD. So that not a single curator of this beastliness has any doubts about the determination and ability of Russia and the CSTO military bloc to defend their sovereignty and eliminate any threat quickly and effectively.

            Let's see what the coming day will bring us.
            hi
            1. d1975
              d1975 6 January 2022 08: 38
              +4
              Let it be exactly as you say. Only decisiveness without delay.
          2. 501Legion
            501Legion 6 January 2022 08: 52
            +1
            This Kazakhstan is not Syria, they don't like khachiks there, as well as in Russia itself, so there is no need for any Kadyrovites
            1. bayard
              bayard 6 January 2022 09: 40
              +5
              Quote: 501Legion
              This Kazakhstan is not Syria there they do not like Khachiks

              Why love in war?
              There, in fact, the war is already underway. Terrorist.
              And in essence it is a foreign intervention by terrorist gangs.
              And to whom, if not the Chechen special forces there to show all their training and fighting qualities?
              Moreover, Kazakhstan is no stranger to them. They remember him, and they remember them there.
              Or do you think that Russian guys from Ryazan and Vologda will quickly find mutual understanding in a Muslim country agonizing in nationalism?
              Believe me, they (Kadyrovtsy) will come in handy there.
              And they are bored without a war.
              And they will teach "correct Islam" faster than these savages (what is on the streets).
              And to those who do not heed the words of the Koran - the shaitans and the iblis ... they will also find an approach. Fast and radical.
              And Ramzan has been asking for war for a long time. bully How not to respect in such a matter?
              We must send. yes
          3. Victorio
            Victorio 6 January 2022 17: 22
            +1
            Quote: SSR
            Imkha Ramzanovskys should be sent to Alma-Ata.

            ===
            I don’t think so. In Soviet times, many specialists worked in the oil industry of the Kazssr - people from the Caucasus, incl. and Chechens. and even then, in Uzen (one of the centers of the oil industry, now the name of the city is already another name) there were frictions between Caucasians (possibly Chechens, I don’t remember, although they lived nearby, in Shevchenko). first the fights, then the Caucasian killed the Kazakh, and rushed, the crowds in the streets, with difficulty and not immediately calmed down.
            1. SSR
              SSR 6 January 2022 18: 02
              +2
              Quote: Victorio
              immigrants from the Caucasus, incl. and Chechens. and even then,

              I know. Himself with Anzor the Chechen constantly rammed and his father always kept aloof, but here it is different, the old Chechens themselves say, if the Asians did not accept them and did not go out then ...
              After the "teplushek" they helped them with food, shelter, clothing, in general, many owe their lives to the Kyrgyz, Kazakhs, Uzbeks.
              I naturally perceived their Balkars, Ingush, Chechens, Circassians. ))
              We had Bashkirs, Tatars, and Estonians in our village.
              1. The comment was deleted.
      2. aszzz888
        aszzz888 6 January 2022 04: 37
        +1

        Zyablitsev (Eugene)
        Today, 04: 05
        NEW

        +5
        Under the pretext of defending Baikonur, it is possible and necessary to bring in Russian troops - to lose Kazakhstan for us, so that it, like Ukraine, falls under the Anglo-Saxons, this will be a geopolitical failure of the entire GDP policy!
        I completely agree with you. V.Putin will not allow the second unnecessary, and wanton merikatosov in the Republic of Belarus.
      3. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 6 January 2022 06: 55
        -9
        Quote: Finches
        this will be a geopolitical failure of the entire GDP policy!

        The geopolitical failure of the GDP occurred when the Republic of Kazakhstan switched to the Latin alphabet. Only the blind man did not see where everything was going.
        1. Finches
          Finches 6 January 2022 07: 05
          +10
          So what? All the same, Kazakhstan is an independent de jure state and this is its right in the end! Or was it then that the troops had to be brought in and removed from Nazarbayev? laughing Ingvar, I beg your pardon, but sometimes you write, in your blind rage against VVP, that it seems that you are delusional! laughing
          1. d1975
            d1975 6 January 2022 08: 51
            +3
            So how does independence help now? What do you think . Ponty all this. As long as there is Russia, they are with their independence.
          2. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 6 January 2022 09: 00
            -10
            Quote: Finches
            , in such a blind rage against VVP, that you seem to be delusional!

            It seems to me that you are delusional, Zhenya.
            Or do you seriously think that Kazakhstan's transition to the Latin alphabet is a step towards rapprochement with Russia? Or did US laboratories on the territory of Kazakhstan become a guarantee of friendship between peoples? fool
            1. Finches
              Finches 6 January 2022 09: 46
              +7
              Not! The authorities of Kazakhstan also played in a multi-vector approach and latent Russophobia, so they reached the Maidan - therefore now Russia needs to take measures so that Kazakhstan, like Ukraine, does not completely float away under the Anglo-Saxons!
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 6 January 2022 17: 36
                -5
                Quote: Finches
                also played multi-vector and latent Russophobia

                Hidden from whom, Zhen? Everything was clear after the transfer of the capital to Astana.
                1. Finches
                  Finches 6 January 2022 17: 51
                  +2
                  Here I completely agree with you! hi So we're done! Therefore, if the elderly Elbasy sits down on the bunk, it will be fair, by the way, he is no less than Yeltsin and Gorbachev, to blame for the collapse of the USSR!
                  1. cat Rusich
                    cat Rusich 6 January 2022 18: 24
                    +1
                    Quote: Finches
                    Therefore, if the elderly Elbasy sits down on the bunk, it will be fair, by the way, he is no less than Yeltsin and Gorbachev, to blame for the collapse of the USSR!
                    RSFSR (Russia) withdrew from the USSR December 12, 1991
                    KSSR (Kazakhstan) left the USSR December 16, 1991
                    hi
                    My opinion
                    Fictional reality ...
                    Kazakhstan might not have left the USSR, M.S. Gorbachev would have left the post of "President of the USSR" anyway and could have taken his place legally, as a result of the elections, N. Nazarbayev.
                    And today N. Nazarbayev would be the "President of the USSR", and K-Zh. Tokayev ...
                    wassat
        2. unhappy
          unhappy 6 January 2022 07: 09
          +2
          Chef, everything is gone ... (c) fool
          complete failure, yeah. Will be tomorrow, we'll see there.
      4. Fitter65
        Fitter65 6 January 2022 09: 27
        +1
        Quote: Finches
        Under the pretext of protecting Baikonur, Russian troops can and should be deployed

        Or can we wait for the referendum, when the residents of Baikonur and the surrounding area will express their unanimous decision to join Russia at the referendum? And Verny would probably not mind returning to his native land. But only after a popular referendum ... laughing
        1. U-58
          U-58 6 January 2022 09: 40
          -1
          But who will allow such a referendum to be carried out on the sovereign territory of the state?
          Is Semipalatinsk not enough for you?
          In this situation, both of them will take up arms against Russia ..
      5. isv000
        isv000 6 January 2022 14: 18
        +1
        Quote: Finches
        Under the pretext of defending Baikonur, it is possible and necessary to bring in Russian troops - to lose Kazakhstan for us, so that it, like Ukraine, falls under the Anglo-Saxons, this will be a geopolitical failure of the entire GDP policy!

        If Kazakhstan is "pacified" by January 10, then negotiations with the FSHami will go like clockwork ...
    2. Victorio
      Victorio 6 January 2022 17: 27
      +1
      Quote: aszzz888
      I guess security this facility is more than worthy and will be strengthened accordingly.

      ===
      another question what kind of security? events show that some change quickly
  2. Alex bergman
    Alex bergman 6 January 2022 03: 51
    +13
    The heat will start tomorrow! The CSTO is on its way. The freaks of the second Syria or Afgan will not succeed!
    1. Alex bergman
      Alex bergman 6 January 2022 03: 55
      +5
      A large amount of military equipment is already being sent to Astana. Just ours will arrive in time.
      1. Alex bergman
        Alex bergman 6 January 2022 03: 57
        +8
        And Baikonur is hardly worse guarded than nuclear power plants or other strategic facilities.
      2. isv000
        isv000 6 January 2022 14: 19
        0
        Quote: Alex Bergman
        A large amount of military equipment is already being sent to Astana. Just ours will arrive in time.

        Two companies of the Airborne Forces are already in place ...
    2. bayard
      bayard 6 January 2022 04: 38
      +10
      Quote: Alex Bergman
      The heat will start tomorrow!

      The heat should start this night - they promised to start an anti-terrorist operation. The squadron of the Airborne Forces brigade is being transferred / transferred to Alma-Ata and Baikonur. CSTO consultations are also in full swing. And if the Anglo-Saxons in the south of Kazakhstan managed to collect all the ISIS exported to Afghanistan and try to use it + the local terrorist underground, then the Chinese can also catch up (they don't need a mess near Xinjiang at all) ... And the Chinese do not know how to be almonds at all, they are practically robots. .. so that all the bandit underground rushing into the street must be destroyed physically in the course of a series of military operations.
      And no "negotiations" and "de-escalation" - they are already fighting not only with the police, but also with the army, there are killed, wounded, armored vehicles have been burned. Everyone is running around with machine guns.
      The demonstrative brutal suppression of this terrorist attack should demonstrate both the maturity / viability of the CSTO, and Russia's readiness to act quickly and toughly, and to realize its intentions without hesitation.
      The time before the start of negotiations with the United States and NATO is just left.
      1. Finches
        Finches 6 January 2022 04: 46
        +2
        Banderlogs for the rights of the rebels should be connected - so far the Washington Regional Committee hasn’t given the go-ahead, so Kiev is silent, or maybe because gas tariffs in Ukraine are also very "democratic", so they don’t want to wake up smartly! laughing
        1. bayard
          bayard 6 January 2022 06: 13
          +2
          The Sumerians at a different time might have supported, but now ... for them ... everything just hangs in the balance. In the sense - the very possibility of further existence as a state. If they kick up now angry , Russia simply will not have a single reason to continue to tolerate this terrorist state. And if it openly and officially (!!) supports the ISIS attack on a CSTO member state ... Then it is possible that the CSTO states will join the operation to eliminate the hotbed of international terrorism.
          Or perhaps she (Ukraine) will be reminded that their mercenaries fought openly as part of the ISIS, Al-Nusra and other Al-Qaeda gangs in Syria.
          Perhaps she will be remembered how she received not only on her territory, but also in her Armed Forces gangs of international terrorists who are on the international wanted list. And these bandits fought against the residents of Donbass!

          In Kazakhstan, I hope the terrorist gangs will be destroyed in the next few days. And if there are any delays or difficulties with this, then China can join this.
          And they do not know how to be almond ... they are practically robots - by psychotype. And they do not want ISIS in the vicinity of Xinjiang at all.
          In fact, a military anti-terrorist operation began in Kazakhstan. The Army is already waging battles with armed and very well-trained gangs.

          And Ukraine today even FARE crookedly ... not desirable.
          Can provoke SUCH dashing ...
        2. Victorio
          Victorio 6 January 2022 17: 33
          +1
          Quote: Finches
          Banderlogs for the rights of the rebels should be connected - so far the Washington Regional Committee hasn’t given the go-ahead, so Kiev is silent, or maybe because gas tariffs in Ukraine are also very "democratic", so they don’t want to wake up smartly! laughing

          ===
          Well, yes, in Kiev, the "leader of the opposition" has already emerged from the fugitive Kazakhs
      2. Alex bergman
        Alex bergman 6 January 2022 05: 00
        +4
        I agree with a million %%! This should be a showy spanking so that it was discouraging to get into our zones of interest. Of course everyone will cry. Sanctions are being imposed again. But they must start to be afraid !!!
      3. aszzz888
        aszzz888 6 January 2022 05: 18
        +5

        bayard
        Today, 04: 38
        NEW
        ... And if the Anglo-Saxons in the south of Kazakhstan managed to collect all the ISIS taken to Afghanistan and try to use it + the local terrorist underground, then the Chinese can catch up (they don't need a mess near Xinjiang at all) ...
        Yes, yes. It is not for nothing that we, and the Chinese, conducted various exercises to defeat terrorist attacks, and I hope we will. And now there is an opportunity to try it out in a real situation.
      4. isv000
        isv000 6 January 2022 14: 21
        +2
        Quote: bayard
        And no "negotiations" and "de-escalation" - they are already fighting not only with the police, but also with the army, there are killed, wounded, armored vehicles have been burned. Everyone is running around with machine guns.

        Fire!
        1. bayard
          bayard 6 January 2022 15: 11
          +3
          The fire was still open to defeat - at night, during an attempt to storm the building of the Ministry of Internal Affairs with dagger fire, over thirty bandits were destroyed. All employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs received standard weapons. Everything has already gone on an adult.
          The participation of a large number of "ISIS veterans" from Afghanistan (under the leadership of their American and British curators), as well as participation in the leadership of the rebellion of the fugitive Kazakh oligarch / thief, was confirmed. He is now in Ukraine. Established participation in the leadership and incitement of the rebellion of the Polish "Neksta".
          after successfully suppressing the insurgency in Kazakhstan, all of these parties will have great regrets.
          1. isv000
            isv000 6 January 2022 15: 20
            +1
            Quote: bayard
            The participation of a large number of "ISIS veterans" from Afghanistan (under the leadership of their American and British curators) has been confirmed.

            The prisoners are needed, to show the world. Although ... They have urine in their eyes - God's dew! And the prisoners, in such a time, throw off the plane ...
            1. bayard
              bayard 6 January 2022 15: 27
              +2
              The corpses are already there, the identities are being established. For the most part, the terrorists on the streets of Alma-Ata and other cities are not local. These are either villagers hired for extras, or ISIS members from Afghanistan.
              There are probably prisoners too.
              I think VERY weighty arguments will fall on the negotiating table.
              1. aszzz888
                aszzz888 7 January 2022 01: 13
                0

                bayard
                Yesterday, 15: 27
                NEW

                +2
                The corpses are already there, the identities are being established. For the most part, the terrorists on the streets of Alma-Ata and other cities are not local. These are either villagers hired for extras, or ISIS members from Afghanistan.
                There are probably prisoners too.
                РќР ° столпереговоров РґСѓРјР ° СЋ Р» СЏРіСѓС ‚ОЧР• РќР¬ весомы РР Р ° СЂРіСѓ‚РјРРС .
                R "R" SЏ R · R ° R "SѓR¶RЅRёRєRsRI Ryo RљRs R› R®R'R "R • RђR R" RЈRњR ", R¤RђRљRўR" R ± PµSЃRїRsR "PµR · PЅS‹. R'SѓRґSѓS ‚S‚SѓRїRs РѕС‚СЂРёС † Р ° С‚С Р'RЎRЃ. Р Рј С… оть РІ РіР »Р ° Р · Р ° РёР» Рё РµС ‰ С 'РєСѓРґР °, ... СЃР ° РјРё Р · РЅР ° ете РїСЂРѕРґРѕР »Р¶РµРЅРёРµ. Р С… РЎРњР РїРµСЂРµРІРµСЂРЅСѓС ‚Р'РЎРЃ СЃ РЅРѕРі РЅР ° РіРѕР» РѕРІСѓ. РўСѓС ‚нужны, РєР ° Рє РјРЅРµ РєР ° жетSЃSЏ СЂР ° РґРёРєР ° Р »СЊРЅС‹ РРµСЂС ‹РїРѕ РѕС‚РРѕС € РЂРРРёРё РС‚РРѕС € РЂРЅРРёРё. Путин. R'RїR »РѕС‚СЊ РґРѕ РЅР ° РЅРµСЃРµРЅРёС СѓРґР ° СЂРѕРІ РїРѕ РїСЂРёРЅСС‚РёС С‚Р ° РєРёС… РїСЂРёРєР ° РЅРµСРµРРР Р ·РµСРµРРёС РРѕРІСРµРРР РРвееРРР РРРРµРРР РРР РРР Р‡РР
                1. bayard
                  bayard 7 January 2022 02: 25
                  -1
                  Quote: aszzz888
                  For zaluzhnikov and Co. ANY ARGUMENTS, FACTS are useless. They will stupidly deny EVERYTHING. Even in their eyes

                  It all depends on the weight category of the interlocutor.
                  If you are "The louse who growled" (as Putin was called after the Munich speech), then the reaction to you will be just like that.
                  And if it's a Bear?
                  Have you got sciatica and cartridges damp?

                  So, the Bear can put on the scales of negotiations not only the fact of suppressing organized rebellion and bloodshed by them, not only the facts of their involvement ... but also his own threaded bolt.
                  If you are a Bear, and the interlocutor has "damp cartridges", the conversation takes on a completely different - soulful character.
  3. Humpty
    Humpty 6 January 2022 04: 11
    +2
    Until recently, all the irons of Kazakhstan were torn in congratulations to Aliyev for Karabakh. And now Pashinyan is busy providing military assistance to the Kazakh authorities.
    I hope that everything will be calm at Baikonur.
    And I think that today the former President of Kyrgyzstan Atambayev is in a high mood in prison.
    1. Third district
      Third district 6 January 2022 05: 10
      +1
      Quote: Humpty
      Until recently, all the irons of Kazakhstan were torn in congratulations to Aliyev for Karabakh. And now Pashinyan is busy providing military assistance to the Kazakh authorities.

      The Irony of Fate. The Kazakh authorities acted meanly when they congratulated Aliyev on the victory over their CSTO ally. And Pashinyan acted as a true ally. Although earlier, everyone called him a henchman of the Washington regional committee.
      1. Humpty
        Humpty 6 January 2022 05: 30
        0
        Quote: Third District
        The Kazakh authorities acted meanly when

        Atambayev also ended up behind bars at an urgent request. Because and many citizens of Kazakhstan spread rumors that the head of the people was not a Kazakh, but an "evil Kalmyk".
        1. dmmyak40
          dmmyak40 6 January 2022 13: 12
          +1
          Oh, Kalmyks, they remembered my fellow countrymen! "Evil Kalmyk" ... Interestingly, it was not in vain that all historical sources wrote that Kazakhs and Kalmyks are the worst enemies! Turks against Mongols.
          1. Humpty
            Humpty 6 January 2022 14: 12
            +1
            Quote: dmmyak40
            they remembered my fellow countrymen!

            I'm just joking. But someone is not laughing, then behind bars.
      2. aszzz888
        aszzz888 6 January 2022 05: 33
        +1
        Third district
        Today, 05: 10

        +1
        Quote: Humpty
        Until recently, all the irons of Kazakhstan were torn in congratulations to Aliyev for Karabakh. And now Pashinyan is busy providing military assistance to the Kazakh authorities.

        The Irony of Fate. The Kazakh authorities acted meanly when they congratulated Aliyev on the victory over their CSTO ally. And Pashinyan acted as a true ally. Although earlier, everyone called him a henchman of the Washington regional committee.
        In addition to your post - Armenia in 2022. presides over the CSTO.
    2. isv000
      isv000 6 January 2022 14: 25
      +2
      Quote: Humpty
      And now Pashinyan is busy providing military assistance to the Kazakh authorities.

      Putin is a master! While the mattress-makers swear that they never even looked in the direction of the Kazakhs, Pashinyan was asked to put together a peacekeeping corps. Russia has nothing to do with putting things in order! bully
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 7 January 2022 01: 15
        0

        isv000
        Yesterday, 14: 25
        NEW

        +2
        Quote: Humpty
        And now Pashinyan is busy providing military assistance to the Kazakh authorities.

        Путин - РјР ° гистр! Р 'то РІСЂРµРјС РєР ° Рє РјР ° трР° СЃРЅРёРєРё Р ± ожР° тся С ‡ то РЅРё СЂР ° Р · Сѓ РґР ° же РЅРµ РїРѕСРРѕРѕ РѕСЂРѕРЅСѓ РєР ° Р · Р ° С ... РѕРІ, РџР ° С € РёРЅСЏРЅСѓ предложено СЃРєРѕР» РѕС‚РёС‚С РјРёСЂРѕС‚РІРѕСЂС ‡ еский РРѕСЂРїСѓСЃ.
        R "R ° RїRѕС‚РѕРјСѓ С З С‚Рѕ, Армения - РџР Р • Р ”РЎР • Р” РРўР • Р ›Р¬RЎRўR'RЈR • Рў Р 'РћР” РљР' РЅР ° СЌС‚РѕС ‚РіРѕРґ.
  4. Thrifty
    Thrifty 6 January 2022 04: 49
    +5
    In rotten America, it would be such a "popular protest" with shooting and seizure of weapons, with massacres and hostilities in cities. for migrant Arabs to arrange their own rules ...
    1. Finches
      Finches 6 January 2022 05: 05
      +3
      I here appreciated Elbasy's foresight in transferring the capital to Tselinograd - anyway closer to Rostov than from Almaty! laughing
      But to be serious, I do not understand the people who came out to the protests, who are not activists, but ordinary people who are trying to hand over their own statehood under external control with their own hands. And for what? They will live better after that, perhaps - Ukraine has not taught anything at all?
      1. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 6 January 2022 05: 10
        -2
        Quote: Finches
        to Rostov any way closer than from Almaty!

        But our VTA will fly further.It's not clear on which side the Kazakh air defense will be
        1. Finches
          Finches 6 January 2022 05: 21
          +11
          Also, by the way, I did not see a single Slavic person in the frames of the protesters - only Bedouins! This suggests that the Russian diaspora understands very well that if these children come to power, then they will have to collect money for Rostov ...
          1. Grits
            Grits 6 January 2022 11: 47
            +1
            Quote: Finches
            Also, by the way, I did not see a single Slavic person in the frames of the protesters - only Bedouins!

            It seems to me that there are no Russians left there.
          2. dmmyak40
            dmmyak40 6 January 2022 13: 14
            0
            They have been collecting and looking for work in Russia for a long time. Distant relatives in Shevchenko.
      2. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 6 January 2022 05: 19
        +7
        Quote: Finches
        I do not understand the people who came out to the protests who are not activists

        There can be a lot of options. The authorities brought someone to the brink, someone robbed under the guise, someone mocked, someone old scores (also under the guise) to reduce, and someone simply succumbed to herd feelings. request Picked up by a turbid wave and carried. It is unlikely that the bulk of the people think about the surrender of statehood into the wrong hands. sad
        1. Finches
          Finches 6 January 2022 05: 34
          -1
          So it is understandable, but you still have to think with your head!
      3. Kittymoore
        Kittymoore 6 January 2022 05: 22
        -20
        But to be serious, I do not understand the people who came out to the protests, who are not activists, but ordinary people who are trying to hand over their own statehood under external control with their own hands.


        They are in Kazakhstan, they live there. You are from Russia, most likely you get information from Solovyov and telegrams-garbage cans. What can you understand?
        1. Asad
          Asad 6 January 2022 05: 32
          +5
          The entire past year has passed in Kazakhstan against the backdrop of protests and strikes in the oil and gas sector. Which is mainly owned by the Americans. There is, of course, the share of Kazakhs and Russia. It is not for nothing that Lukoil's shares sat down on rising oil. And the layoffs of 40 workers added fuel to the fire, although the number seems overstated. Maybe it turns out that the United States specially created conditions for protests, naturally along with the stupid policy of the top.
          1. Kittymoore
            Kittymoore 6 January 2022 05: 44
            -9
            So what? Foreigners sit on fatty chunks, beys and nukers get high with them, and the rest work on the gentlemen. Indeed, this has never happened, and here it is again :(.
            Look at Rosneft's board of directors.
            Maybe it turns out that the United States specially created conditions for protests


            I read local guys and if you listen to them, the United States is so powerful that it can arrange a Maidan even for penguins or ants. Absolute strength in this part of the universe.

            But given that the thinking of such people is purely binary ... Maybe this makes sense :)
            1. Lech from Android.
              Lech from Android. 6 January 2022 05: 58
              +2
              But given that the thinking of such people is purely binary ... Maybe this makes sense :)

              Oh, sir, how banal and stereotyped you are ... each has its own shortcomings ... you also have them well visible. smile
              1. Kittymoore
                Kittymoore 6 January 2022 06: 08
                -12
                And what is the stereotype?
                1. Finches
                  Finches 6 January 2022 06: 40
                  +1
                  I apologize for interfering, but not stereotypicality, but you can see naivety, unless, of course, you are playing a troll! laughing
                  Even before our era and yours, the Roman lawyer Cassian Longinus Ravilla voiced the formula: Cui bono ?, Cui prodest? underlying any crime or "mass popular protests" - Who benefits from this?
                  1. Kittymoore
                    Kittymoore 6 January 2022 06: 45
                    -10
                    Was it profitable for the proletariat to fight for their rights at the end of the 19th century in order to get social security, pensions, labor protection and an 8-hour working day? I think so, and the performances there were also massive.

                    Naturally, political forces (different) are trying to ride any movement in order to achieve benefits for themselves.

                    But if you consider the bulk of the population to be a slave biomass, which even theoretically cannot understand what is beneficial to her personally (to each specific person), then yes, continue to take this phrase literally.

                    You just listen and read people who are used to being at the top of the food chain and for whom people are just servants crawling under their feet. They view them exclusively as "masses" - stupid, impersonal, absolutely suggestible and with a memory of a fish.

                    Say, the man in the street cannot have his own will. He is the object to which the desired setting is implanted.
                    This topic is very fond of professional talkers and political talkers, divorced from reality. (Armchair theorists)
                    1. Finches
                      Finches 6 January 2022 06: 59
                      +3
                      You see, what is the ficus - revolutionary signs must happen, as our grandfather Lenin taught us:

                      1) Classic - the lower classes cannot, but the upper classes do not want to! - For the onset of a revolution, it is usually not enough that "the lower classes do not want", but it is also required that the "upper classes cannot" live in the old way.
                      Do we see such a sign in Kazakhstan? Not!
                      2)The exacerbation, above the usual, of the needs and calamities of the oppressed classes. - do we observe such a sign? 50 to 50, because, as I noted below, not all ethnic groups participate, which speaks of the nationalist overtones of the protests!
                      3) For these reasons, a significant increase in the activity of the masses, in a "peaceful" era, allowing themselves to be plundered calmly, and in turbulent times, attracted, both by the entire situation of the crisis and by the "top" themselves, to independent historical action. - can we observe such a crisis in Kazakhstan today? Not!

                      And what grandfather Lenin wrote further: "Without these (revolutionary signs) objective changes, independent of the will not only of individual groups and parties, but also of individual classes, revolution - as a general rule - is impossible" - but a coup is possible! That is, this is not a revolution for the sake of the people, but a color revolution for the sake of a third force!
                      1. Kittymoore
                        Kittymoore 6 January 2022 07: 20
                        -9
                        Let’s not drag Lenin’s grandfather. At least he was not a conspiracy theorist with a mania for the Anglo-Saxons.

                        revolutionary signs


                        What does the revolution have to do with it? Revolution is a change in the state system and socio-political relations.

                        Nobody in Kazakhstan demands anything like that. There will be a new khan, that's all (even if the protestors win).

                        do we observe such a sign?


                        Are you looking for class consciousness in a society where it is not clear whether feudalism, or the tribal system? What's next? The search for communism among the peoples remaining in the Paleolithic?

                        can we observe such a crisis in Kazakhstan today? Not!


                        Quite. Smoldering social crisis + endless covid crisis + fatigue from the "father of the nation"


                        Without these (revolutionary signs) objective changes, independent of the will of not only individual groups and parties, but also individual classes, revolution - as a general rule - is impossible "


                        Tell Lenin in January 1917 that in a month the empire would collapse along with the Romanovs - he would have laughed in your face.

                        Classification is good, but Lenin is not a beacon whose word is true because it is true.
                        With all due respect to him.

                        That is, this is not a revolution for the sake of the people, but a color revolution for the sake of a third force!


                        Everything is simpler. If we won, then it is the will of the people, a feat and the triumph of justice. If they won, then this is the Maidan, the victory of third forces, world capital, etc.

                        It's just a sham.
        2. Finches
          Finches 6 January 2022 05: 32
          +5
          But I understand perfectly well that the infrastructure and educational framework of Kazakhstan largely rested on the Russians, and the replacement of Russians by ethnic Kazakhs led to a noticeable decrease in the standard of living and everyday culture, and taking into account the wild clannishness, ordinary clan showdowns began - those who are at the trough and those who this feeder wants to get! And the Anglo-Saxons simply poured money into whomever needed, drove over the ears through social networks and garbage dumps such as "Radio Freedom", to guide the protesters and coordination they muddied a messenger called bridgefy, gave birth to the alleged political movement "Wake up Kazakhstan" (an idiotic State Department cliché) and it all started spinning! And so yes - this is the people in a single impulse! laughing
          1. Kittymoore
            Kittymoore 6 January 2022 05: 50
            -6
            You see? You are not only an expert on color revolutions (I smiled from this in the next branch), but also an expert on Kazakh society with all its clannishness, religious and national relations, the role of Russians in its life. And of course you know "who needs it."

            Stupid Kazakhs have their ears washed, but wise Zyablitsev knows that all this is nonsense. He has long since unrolled the threads of the Anglo-Saxon conspiracy.

            A giant of thought, the father of hurray-patriotism :)
            1. Finches
              Finches 6 January 2022 06: 02
              +2
              And then! laughing
              I just looked at 7 years ago ... What do "smart" Kazakhs demand - lower tariffs?


              Now the tariffs in Ukraine have been reduced to a minus almost laughing
              1. Kittymoore
                Kittymoore 6 January 2022 06: 06
                -11
                Wow, the authorities deceived the people. How is that... )
                1. Finches
                  Finches 6 January 2022 06: 27
                  +7
                  Because those who were appointed by the puppeteers came to power - those who think not for the interests of the people, but who fulfill the will of their curators! To tear Kazakhstan away from Russia in a political sense is a game worth the candle for the Angol-Saxons, especially on the eve of very important negotiations! It worked out with Ukraine, but not completely, Crimea, which the Americans needed, was profiled, the east of Ukraine, its smithy, in principle, too. It didn’t burn out with Belarus at all, now Kazakhstan ... It’s all obvious, like no other day! And the fact that in Kazakhstan the idiotic authorities are only to help, like Yanukovych - he did everything to profuse Slavic Ukraine to please the Anglo-Saxons, in defiance of Russia!
                  1. Kittymoore
                    Kittymoore 6 January 2022 06: 34
                    -5
                    The authorities do not think for the interests of the people. Do you think the authorities are interested in you and your interests? Yeah, right now.

                    Serfs are a resource, nothing more.


                    It's all obvious as daylight!


                    So I do not deny the political quarrels between the bourgeoisie. They always squabble. What to do.
      4. aszzz888
        aszzz888 6 January 2022 05: 27
        +5

        Zyablitsev (Eugene)
        Today, 05: 05
        NEW

        0
        I here appreciated Elbasy's foresight in transferring the capital to Tselinograd - anyway closer to Rostov than from Almaty! laughing
        But to be serious, I do not understand the people who came out to the protests, who are not activists, but ordinary people who are trying to hand over their own statehood under external control with their own hands. And for what? ...
        Eugene, for the sake of a small handout from the relevant Merikatos NGOs. Again washed)) brains. Those who are satisfied with color-nuisance have a lot of options, although they work according to patterns. I think these patterns should be chopped off to the very ears. Together with the head.
        1. Finches
          Finches 6 January 2022 05: 54
          +6
          Absolutely right! One-to-one Belarusian scenario! They didn't even translate the memo to the protesters from Russian into Kazakh!
          1. Kittymoore
            Kittymoore 6 January 2022 06: 13
            -5
            Exactly!!! One to one!
            True, in Belarus people danced in round dances for a year and gave flowers to riot police, and in Kazakhstan, on the third day, there was automatic shooting and street battles.
            In Belarus, elections were the catalyst, and in Kazakhstan, a typical social explosion.

            In Belarus, the basis of the protest is the hipster-kreakly with telephones, taking off their shoes, and in Kazakhstan, the tough guys from the provinces with fittings that burn the administrations, and do not stand on the benches.

            There were leaders in Belarus, even a “president” in exile, but in Kazakhstan they cannot identify anyone at all.

            And so yes, one to one
            1. Finches
              Finches 6 January 2022 06: 19
              +2
              Come on ... And there is a leader there - a fugitive oligarch, a former energy minister, now hiding in France, Mukhtar Kabulovich Ablyazov. The leader of that very unregistered "Democratic Party of Kazakhstan". And about the Bedouins armed with armatures, you are right, this is a well-coordinated gang! As for the reason - everything turned out well for the puppeteers - nobody canceled the idiotic policy of the Kazakh authorities, and the Kazakhs were buzzing against the elections earlier, but quieter! Therefore, the Anglo-Saxons fired a lot of people from their oil companies, that is, they were already preparing the "electorate" for a social explosion, and the authorities, willingly or unwillingly, played along with them!
              1. Kittymoore
                Kittymoore 6 January 2022 06: 29
                -7
                Yeah, who declared himself a leader. Let the Kazakhs first recognize him as their leader. This is how Navalny declared himself the main oppositionist of all Russia. "I am an artist - I see it this way."

                The Anglo-Saxons are generally fired solely in order to start the Maidan. They even closed the Ford factories in St. Petersburg solely so that the unemployed proletariat could arrange
                revolution. But it didn't work out.
                1. Finches
                  Finches 6 January 2022 06: 32
                  0
                  Peter, this is not an indicator - there is a lot of work here! But for the poor districts of the Mangistau region, where the oil industry is the city-forming and only normal job, the dismissal of 100 people is already a problem!
                  1. Kittymoore
                    Kittymoore 6 January 2022 07: 05
                    -5
                    Forgive me, but I'm just lazy without roflov to discuss how the insidious Anglo-Saxons (now they drink all the water) deliberately create social tension in Bantustan at the end of the earth.

                    Let me remind you that, at one time, they pursued a similar policy: they took production to countries with cheap labor, and their locals stood in line for benefits.
                    Shooting yourself in the foot?

                    This is capitalism, not a cunning plan. The costs are borne by the lower classes.
                    1. Finches
                      Finches 6 January 2022 07: 27
                      +4
                      I do not believe in miracles, especially on the eve of an important meeting between Russia and the United States - this is, firstly, when they need trump cards, and secondly, it is the Anglo-Saxons who plant their own in the world, not capitalism, no, but imperialism! What is imperialism? Imperialism is a state policy based on the use of military force for various forms of foreign policy expansion, including the seizure of territories, the formation of colonies and the establishment of political or economic control over other countries. Today, most of the time, it is not military power that is used, but the soft power of color revolutions! It's that simple!
                      1. Kittymoore
                        Kittymoore 6 January 2022 07: 31
                        -8
                        Imperialism is the highest stage of capitalism, a natural consequence of monopolization. All developed countries are engaged in it - Russia is among them.
                        So your claims sound strange.

                        The workers were laid off long before this important meeting of yours. What's important about it? Do you really think that Biden will kneel down and merge NATO?

                        No, victory will be announced on TV and you will be delighted with greatness at VO (American patriots will trumpet their victory in their VO). Everyone is happy.
  5. Khabarovsk
    Khabarovsk 6 January 2022 06: 11
    -2
    And at the same time to attract a couple of armies for protection)
  6. Kaufman
    Kaufman 6 January 2022 07: 40
    -4
    I feel we are on the eve of a grandiose nix. The CSTO must react as toughly and quickly as possible.
    But here the army of Kazakhstan en masse goes over to the rebels.
    In general, the problem is worse than in 14 year in Ukraine and last year in Belarus
    1. Grits
      Grits 6 January 2022 11: 56
      0
      Quote: kaufman
      But here the army of Kazakhstan en masse goes over to the rebels.

      The talks about the army going over to the side of the rebels are most likely stuffing "from the other side" to raise the spirits of their rebels and give this whole mess some legitimacy.
      But if this is so, then so much the worse for the statehood of Kazakhstan - the occupation bodies from the CSTO countries will already be talking about its fate. The most weighty word will be you know who has it.
  7. bistrov.
    bistrov. 6 January 2022 08: 27
    -5
    Events in Kazakhstan produce strange impressions:
    1. The center of the leadership of the insurgencies, the purpose of which would be to seize power, is not visible.
    2. No demands have been made for the resignation of President Tokayev ...
    3.All "thunders and lightnings" are flying at the head of Nazarbayev, his relatives and the government, which was pro-Nazarbayev ...
    With a careful analysis, the incumbent President of Kazakhstan Tokayev won the most, at the same time taking the post of Chairman of the Security Council, he will also form his own government ...
    4. The uprisings have already subsided and it is only a matter of time before they are finally suppressed by the troops ..
    Conclusion: it is likely that the rebellion was organized by the current President of Kazakhstan Tokayev, to eliminate Nazarbayev, his relatives and supporters, to strengthen his power and sole control of the country ..., possibly with foreign help ..
  8. stels_07
    stels_07 6 January 2022 09: 15
    0
    They are not so fools as to crash about Baikonur at the initial stage.
  9. U-58
    U-58 6 January 2022 09: 24
    +1
    It is strange that three days later it is not known for certain whose ears are sticking out behind the backs of the rioters. The fact that a pre-prepared weapon is being handed out leads to depressing thoughts. Is it not the great khan of Bolshoga Turan, comrade. Erdogan had a hand in this?
    He skillfully deals with Nazarbayev's supporters and ideas, promising the incumbent president a bag of cookies for the subsequent drift from Russia to the Ottoman Empire. In short, a version of the orchestration of the Kazakh State Emergency Committee and its "successful overcoming".
    It seems that China can say its weighty word and finally slam the nationalists. However, it is written with a pitchfork on the water ...
    1. Victorio
      Victorio 6 January 2022 17: 46
      0
      Quote: U-58
      Is it not the great khan of Bolshoga Turan, comrade. Erdogan had a hand in this?

      ===
      rather Islamists and nationalists, well, plus someone's money, let's say the British
      1. U-58
        U-58 6 January 2022 18: 54
        0
        Erdogan is an Islamist who barely restrained himself from the active Islamization of Turechina at the beginning of his presidency. Now I have got used to it, and other problems are prevailing.
  10. fa2998
    fa2998 6 January 2022 14: 20
    -2
    Quote: Finches
    But to be serious, I do not understand the people who came out to the protests, who are not activists, but ordinary people who are trying to hand over their own statehood under external control with their own hands. And for what? They will live better after that, perhaps - Ukraine has not taught anything at all?

    And your option !? The elections in Ukraine, in Russia, and in Kazakhstan are pure formality. They will write-98% or 146%. Yes, people want to change their lives (and patriots), but within the framework of the law HOW !!! request hi You go out into the street, you are already an extremist and a terrorist. recourse
  11. Al_lexx
    Al_lexx 6 January 2022 20: 45
    -1
    It looks like the airfield on the lake. Balkhash started working in emergency mode ...