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"Shop wars"

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Modern civilization would be unthinkable without a trading system. Here goods are exchanged for money, and money for goods ... Photo by the author


“Somewhere in the distant Galaxy, once upon a time,“ shop wars ”raged.
From "Stories humanity of the first century of the machine mind "
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Franklin was still standing still when Judith, dressed in a coat, approached.
- We have to go to the supermarket ...
Franklin followed her.
“I'll give you a ride, Judith,” he said in a faint voice. “I need to see a new model car today. It will go on sale at the end of the month. Thank God we will be able to buy the car from the first batch!
They walked out onto a neat garden path. The sky was not visible due to the giant silhouettes of billboards. The day was flaring up. And the shadows of the shields hung over the heads of the people who flocked to the supermarket in dark, weak-willed streams ...
"You will buy, doctor!" Ballard James Graham. Translated from English by K. Sechina

Modern civilization and modern culture. Today's material is 1600th in a row on this site. From the very beginning, I wanted it to be special, not about pistols, rifles and not even about the Bayeux tapestry, but about something equally interesting to everyone. And such a topic was found.

Those who have been warned are already armed!


“Be careful, shyness is your best friend. The enemy is also where there is no one around. "
Hamlet William Shakespeare

Since we are at VO, it is clear that the topic should be military. But wars are different. Therefore, today we will talk about one of the most invisible wars in the world - about our war with objects of trade, that is ... with shops. The purpose of the latter in this war is to lighten our wallet, that is, to inflict the most serious "defeat" on it. Accordingly, our goal with you is to preserve our finances not to the detriment of our interests, mood and ... health. Which, by the way, we all wished for each other on the New Year holidays just passed. Not everyone understands that a modern store (as, indeed, any store in general, and at all times!) Is by no means a friend to man, but his primordial and sworn enemy! You, adults, should remember this and command this to both your children and the children of your children.

"Company plan"


- By the way, I have a plan for a sortie alone. - And immediately the plan! Looks like you are the command staff!
"Hussar Ballad"

First of all, when going to go shopping, think that in reality you will have nothing more than "military operations" in enemy territory. A real army of sellers, advertisers, marketers and merchandisers is hunting your wallet here. Absolutely everything works against you here: red packaging ("the fools love red"), but something in shiny (they love shiny even more than red!), A tasty smell of vanilla and pleasant or rhythmic music, yellow tags and large print beckon with discounts the price tags for purchases with a premium are 4 + 1, the goods on the shelves are not at all random (psychologists thought about how to arrange them!), that is, everything is precisely calculated, and even the children's room was not invented at all for your convenience, and so that no one and nothing would prevent you from parting with your money as soon as possible.


A product that is beautifully laid out on a window is an important means of attracting the attention of customers. And if the cake is also cut and its filling is visible, this is even better! The saliva is already flowing! Photo by the author

As in any war, you will need pre-developed strategies and tactics. Napoleonic: first, they say, you should get involved in a battle, and then you will see, it will not work here - you simply don’t have enough money to put it into practice. The strategy of maximizing money saving is much more profitable, because only it, and the tactical techniques corresponding to it, that is, a “campaign plan” thought out to the smallest detail, will give you the opportunity to beat the store in this tough battle for your precious wallet!


The cookies are so-so, but they look beautiful on this showcase. Photo by the author

Consider every little thing!


Who sharpened the bayonet, grumbling angrily / Biting a long mustache.
"Borodino" M.Yu. Lermontov

Preparing to go to the store, you should also "sharpen your bayonet for hand-to-hand combat" and above all have a little snack. Never, remember this - never go to the store on an empty stomach. You can laugh at British scientists as much as you like, but they proved a very important thing: a well-fed person buys 15-20% less food than a hungry one!

Do not forget to take from home the packages you have already used or a canvas bag - this will help the ecology of our planet and will save you a very decent amount in a year.

Most importantly, don’t even think about going to the store without making a list of the purchases you want. It has been proven that all marketers and merchandisers in the world are powerless against a buyer with such a list. But before you make this list, try first to make yourself a menu for at least two or three days. And keep in mind: just compiling a shopping list according to a pre-compiled menu automatically reduces your food costs by as much as 20-25% per month.

Don't leave the house without checking what you already have, say, in the fridge and in the freezer, and what is stored in bags in the buffet. It is possible that you have stocks there for the whole winter, so why then buy something else? Cook with what you have and don’t buy anything new from the old.

As much as you would like, but small children should not be taken to the store. Because everything is done there to make the child salivate, and so that you buy him something tasty. Estimate how much money it will take you for the year for "Kinder surprises" if you buy them every two or three days. The amount will be very impressive.


A special basket stroller for children to take them around the supermarket. Do you think this is for your convenience? Nope! Of course not! Designed to get you to buy something. But what about - the child is happy, you are pleased, you want to please him with something else, to prolong the pleasure ... It was then that you got caught! Photo by the author

Pay for purchases according to the list either in cash or with a bank card, but only for the amount that you considered possible to spend. But if it suddenly becomes larger, you should abandon the purchase. Feel free to tell the seller that you have no extra money. Remember that the seller is not a person, but "a mechanism provided by the article," and besides, he is also an accomplice of the store, that is, your enemy, so you should not be ashamed of him.

Keep in mind that the more often you visit stores, the more money you will leave there, and vice versa. Ideally, you should make a menu for a week and only once and for the whole week, and buy food for it, except perhaps bread and table greens, which should always be the freshest! You should not buy kilograms of vegetables such as cucumbers and tomatoes. You need to take them for two days and no more, because then they wither.


For such a portioned salad, all vegetables must be fresh. Greens are finely chopped - parsley, basil, green onions, tomatoes, all this is seasoned with olive oil with balsamic vinegar or lemon juice and - wow! You can't store it. Chopped, poured the dressing and no salt on the table. And immediately invite them to have a bite, and let the people themselves salt and mix! Convenient, fast, tasty, healthy

Your actions on enemy territory: how best to shop ...


“There was a heat from the store, like from a factory, and this heat came mainly from the counters, where there was a lively sale, the hustle and bustle of which was felt even outside the walls of the building. There was a continuous hum in the room, as if from a car in motion and incessantly processing customers - they were knocked together in front of the counters, intoxicated with goods, and then thrown to the cash registers. "
"Ladies' happiness" Emil Zola

Once on the territory of a "potential enemy", that is, in a store, you should take a basket for shopping, but not a wheelchair. Do you want to buy a lot of everything? Then you can't do without it, but ... don't take the big one, but use the small one. The fact is that our brains have a strange ability to fill the void. That is, it will push you to buy as much of everything as possible.

Try to go only to those departments where the products on your list are located. An extra department is an extra temptation!

Do not buy packaged washed vegetables. They are not only more expensive, but also store worse than ordinary unwashed ones. Also, do not take slices: fish, sausage, cheese. Not only are these products more expensive, it may also be so that this is ... "repackaged goods", the expiration date of which, let's say, has either expired or is about to expire, and it was taken, washed, cut and ... beautifully packaged. Whether it is true or not, the people say that this happens, and there is no smoke without fire. So let's not risk it.

It is advisable to buy products from local producers. This is both patriotic (!) And beneficial in that you do not have to finance someone's customs and transportation costs.

"Shop wars"
Oh, this is the abundance of southern "outlets". Shells, chains, souvenirs ... So I would have bought everything. But why do you need all these trinkets. For memory? One magnet for a refrigerator and photos taken with a camera or mobile phone is enough! Photo by the author

"The shop's secret weapon" and the fight against it


“... we will attract crowds of women here, we will keep them in our power, we will seduce them, and they, mad at the piles of goods, will, besides, empty their wallets. The thing is, my dear, that they need to be inflamed, and for this we need a product that would charm them, cause a sensation. "
"Ladies' happiness" Emil Zola

But the most important thing is to know the secret. weapon your enemy. "Heavy artillery" - and at first glance completely invisible, is the layout of the goods. The most expensive ones are located at eye level, at the level of an outstretched hand - the second in cost, but the cheapest are specially hidden either at the very bottom or on the upper shelf. Here the bet is on laziness. Your brain doesn’t like to waste your body’s energy in the expectation that it might need it. Therefore, raising his head, lowering himself and even more squatting in front of the shelves with the goods for him is a "headache". Make him do what you need to do, and you will win your first victory over the store!


The display of goods in modern supermarkets is in fact the result of delicate calculation on the part of specialists. Photo by the author

And do not try to pay for what is being advertised right now. The advertised product is always more expensive. Remember also that any new food product can only be bought ... in the first two weeks from the moment it appears on the shelves. Because it will contain everything that is supposed to be. As soon as people taste it and start buying it in large quantities, the quality will drop dramatically and it will taste like shit. Of course, there are exceptions, but ... it's better not to risk it! More than once I was convinced that this is exactly the way it is.

The products of hypermarkets under their own trademark, that is, from “manufacturers-sellers”, will always be cheaper, since there is no mark-up of intermediaries between the store and the manufacturer in its price. Consider this circumstance as well.

Finally, the best retaliation for your store is going to ... the good old market. Try to go to the market more often and buy food there. Greet the sellers and smile at them, have a "little conversation" with them (there is such a term abroad, and this is very correct), praise their goods. After some time, you will have “your” sellers in this way, and they will appreciate you and will not slip the bad. And if you suddenly slip it in - do not hesitate and loudly and publicly reprimand on Saturday or Sunday after 11.00, when there are most people in the market. You have nothing to stand on ceremony with them and not baptize children together!


It is best to buy food in the summer, and in the winter, too, in the markets! This is how, for example, the city market in the Czech city of Brno looks like. He works there in the morning right on ... the city square! Photo by the author

Haggle! Haggle with strangers, and even more so with familiar bazaar sellers. Ask them for a discount! Like, I'm a regular customer, but where is the discount? Train them to trade in a moral way. Remember: bazaar traders are your allies in the "shop war". But they are also merchants and you can't relax with them!

To be continued ...
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  1. Blacksmith 55
    Blacksmith 55 8 January 2022 18: 19
    +23
    Yes, you have to stand up for your money.
    I also noticed that going with my wife to the store, it takes a lot more money.
    And if I go with my granddaughter (sometimes I have to), I warn her right away, you can choose only one thing. And the main thing is not to give in, in spite of any tears, now he already knows for sure.
    1. Emergency
      Emergency 8 January 2022 19: 25
      +20
      "I noticed the same, going with my wife to the store, it takes a lot more money." (C) laughing good And time too.
    2. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 8 January 2022 19: 29
      +7
      Quote: Blacksmith 55
      Yes, you have to stand up for your money.

      I noticed that in the last six months, at least, these "markets" began to arrange "ambushes" in this "war". They publish a discount catalog, but .... Now it is permanent, you will not find some types of goods from it on the shelves! But this is at best, just an empty space, smaller than in normal trading. In other cases, they substitute the goods of the same company, with the same or a similar label, but ... a slightly different variety and at a higher price.
      And when the discounts end, the goods appear in their place, in standard quantities and at up to the discount price! There are simply no censored words for expressions in such situations!
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 8 January 2022 20: 49
        +6
        There is such a thing, especially "x5" sinning with it.
        1. Liam
          Liam 8 January 2022 22: 18
          +1
          Quote: 3x3zsave
          There is such a thing

          If the product is at a discount, it is not surprising that it disappears from the shelves, but it is bought intensively. hi
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 8 January 2022 22: 32
            +5
            Good evening! I agree, but the situations described above often occur.
      2. Yarhann
        Yarhann 9 January 2022 00: 43
        +1
        Yes, there is such a marketing scheme in an advertisement to post a super-cheap product, but upon arrival at the store, it instantly ends. but there is about the same but a little better and a little more expensive)) the scheme is ancient but working. the main point is to tighten the client with the money in the store - they will all leave a lot of money
    3. dauria
      dauria 8 January 2022 20: 01
      +19
      I also noticed that going with my wife to the store, it takes a lot more money.


      laughing It’s not you and your wife who go to the store ... It’s she who goes to the store with a "weight carrying device".
      Try this. "Darling, I'll go to the store, otherwise you're tired. Here's a pencil, a sheet of paper. Think and write, and I'll smoke for now .." Twice as fast and cheaper. True, you have to listen to "Do you think I myself know what to buy?" wink
      There is an incomprehensible secret. A man goes to buy a specific product, and a woman goes to see what can be bought there.
      1. Sergey BM
        Sergey BM 10 January 2022 04: 27
        -1
        There is an incomprehensible secret
        There is no need to explain the consequences of ordinary stupidity with mysterious reasons.
        Not a secret, but a lack of intelligence.
        Inability to plan and short-term memory deficit.
    4. alex neym_2
      alex neym_2 8 January 2022 20: 15
      +6
      Shopping trip? Easy!
      - list
      - approximate price * quantity
      - take the goods UNDER THE WALL - there is the freshest (99%)!
      And at the bazaar, if you go regularly, then there are sellers of their own.
    5. V means B
      V means B 9 January 2022 10: 52
      0
      Is it scary to warn your wife as a granddaughter? wassat
      1. Blacksmith 55
        Blacksmith 55 9 January 2022 12: 15
        +3
        Yes, you will warn her))))).
        She gets more pension than me.
        Although our pension is quite enough for us, and the point is not at all about the money saved by going shopping alone, it's a pity the time spent on "shopping".
        As dauria wrote above, a man goes to buy a specific product, a woman to look and show herself.
    6. Sergey BM
      Sergey BM 9 January 2022 10: 53
      -3
      Yes, you have to stand up for your money
      Or make more money and not think about all sorts of nonsense.
      1. Blacksmith 55
        Blacksmith 55 9 January 2022 12: 20
        +1
        Sergei, I've already earned my own, a decent pension, I have enough of everything. And, believe me, the pension comes regularly, every month, like clockwork.
        1. Sergey BM
          Sergey BM 9 January 2022 16: 04
          -2
          If all the more why the heck this savings is enough ?!
          Waste nerves, bother ...
          You just take what you like and don't think in any way
          Personally, that's exactly what I do.
          However, if someone saves out of sports interest, like pinning him up, he has every right
          I am in favor of enjoying life, not being stingy
  2. 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 8 January 2022 18: 25
    +19
    "In his wanderings through the wilds of shops,
    We bump into corpses of oranges
    Where are the inquisitors in robes and leggings,
    They sing over us like nightingales "(C)
    Thank you, Vyacheslav Olegovich!
    To be continued ...
    By the way, also a publicity stunt ...
  3. Thrifty
    Thrifty 8 January 2022 18: 31
    +9
    Vyacheslav, we are no longer the same, you can't fool us on the chaff! Experience in working with retail chains is enough to know what is needed and worth buying, and what is simply hazardous to health chemicals in beautiful packaging. And, about freezing, at the beginning of the 2000s, in one production, he witnessed a trade fraud, - in the corner, three employees peeled off date tags with knives, and the fourth put new tags in this place using a special pistol. After the conversation, with the help of a mat, I made them withdraw such a sausage with an almost expired shelf life, and take it to a separate chamber for subsequent disposal. But, not everyone is aware of how the same sausages are really stored at the production sites, therefore, the method of deception is still used - they changed the tags, froze the sausage, added it directly to the packaging for the smell of flavorings, and again for sale. the abolition of mandatory certificates of validity for many food products, alas ...
    1. kalibr
      8 January 2022 18: 51
      +2
      Quote: Thrifty
      so we are no longer the same, you can't fool us on the chaff!

      Happy for you!!! Keep it up!
      1. Catfish
        Catfish 8 January 2022 19: 42
        +9
        Good evening, Vyacheslav! hi

        How it was in our time:
        "The people and the party are one,
        Only the shops are different ... "(c) laughing

        1. kalibr
          9 January 2022 12: 45
          +5
          That's exactly what it was! Do you remember the song? "And what do I eat, I eat stellate sturgeon, simple Russian food - I catch it in my pond!"
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      3. Region-25.rus
        Region-25.rus 9 January 2022 10: 50
        +3
        for some time I completely agree with the material! I have known all this for a long time and, fortunately, I myself am not subject to any excitement. I look indifferently at all this "abundance", I am not fooled by all sorts of promotions and enticements. Specifically, I know what and how much I need. And I don't even make lists because I eat modestly and in a simple way)))) Well, sometimes I pamper myself with some kind of seafood)) I got used to all kinds of shrimps and scallops from childhood)))) In the 70s, my father often brought anything from the watch ... Now trepang, then octopus, then fresh smelt, then shrimp. We were fishing right within the city limits)))
    2. Sergey BM
      Sergey BM 9 January 2022 10: 59
      0
      in the corner, three employees were scraping off date tags with knives
      This is rare.
      Expiration date immediately, set in advance with a margin, taking into account the delivery time and other losses.
      In milk, so at least.
      If a truck, delivery, red tape takes a week - they just minus a week at once.
      And the goods on the counter are always fresh.
      I am amused by all sorts of grandmothers asking "is this fresh?" - everything is fresh, just like a month!
      1. kalibr
        9 January 2022 12: 47
        -3
        Quote: Sergey BM
        All sorts of grandmas make me laugh

        So they are old and silly. They must be pitied.
  4. yuriy55
    yuriy55 8 January 2022 18: 31
    +2
    That's right, Vyacheslav! Stores have long fought a war with customers in order to capture as many "prisoners" as possible.
    I "fight" with them like that. Before going to the store, I make a list of necessary purchases in advance. Due to the fact that I go to the store on a regular basis, I know the prices for a certain range of goods. It's hard to fool me with fake discounts (I count very well and quickly in my head).
    I take only the products on the list.
    Additionally, I buy durable goods, discounts for which are actual.
    The backpack behind the back frees up your hands.
    I don’t take a lot of money with me (from two to four thousand).
    In my shoulder bag I always have a shopping bag made of raincoat fabric and two large bags (I don’t take bags at the checkout).
    ==========
    I never go to stores for sales.
    I choose industrial goods via the Internet, compare prices and recommendations.
    ==========
  5. hohol95
    hohol95 8 January 2022 18: 35
    +12
    As the dog Sharik said - "It is better to buy meat in the store. It has more bones!"
    And in the markets of the new prices are often higher than the store prices!
    And the "body kit" has not been canceled!
    And old women with "homemade eggs" bought from a car in another area of ​​the city, resell them in the Central Market!
    And with "milk in eggplants" from his beloved cow - a man in a car early in the morning drives through suburban "villages" and buys this milk. Then he brings "his" old ladies "and they resell!
    How long have you, Dear Author, been to your native Penza market?
    1. kalibr
      8 January 2022 18: 53
      +2
      This morning! Was in the market opposite the "Crossroads". I don't go to the city one - it's far from me personally. And I know people from whom I take ... Some for many years.
    2. alekseykabanets
      alekseykabanets 8 January 2022 19: 05
      +1
      Quote: hohol95
      And with "milk in eggplants" from his beloved cow - a man in a car early in the morning drives through suburban "villages" and buys this milk. Then he brings "his" old ladies "and they resell!

      Well, you shouldn't be talking about milk. The guano that the collective farmers carry in the barrel, even the city's will not drink. Milk for delivery (in a barrel) is never filtered, and if it is, it is only to remove the cream.))) They do not require fat now, only protein and density. Homemade milk is cheaper today and better than store milk.
      1. hohol95
        hohol95 8 January 2022 19: 32
        +5
        If you are so well versed in economics, then announce how much it costs that dairy cow to feed?
        So that she gives cheap and tasty milk!
        1. alekseykabanets
          alekseykabanets 8 January 2022 20: 08
          +5
          Quote: hohol95
          If you are so well versed in economics, then announce how much it costs that dairy cow to feed?
          So that she gives cheap and tasty milk!

          Well, I won't tell you about the entire economy.)))) And I don't keep cows now, I kept them 2 years ago. In each region it is different, in me, in the Krasnodar Territory, a cow needs about 2 tons of hay per year. Cereals - according to the lactation period and the milk yield of the cow, it is necessary to count, on average per year, 2-3 kilograms per day (it depends on the milk yield of the cow, the more milk it gives, the more grain you need). Oilcakes, meals, I will not say at all, here you will find from the protein ones and you need to count according to the tables, we mainly use sunflower oilcake, it is somewhere around 500 grams, probably on average. Juicy forage - in our country, basically, it is beet pulp, a cow is consumed for a year, somewhere there is a car (GAZ). Plus vitamins, plus a first aid kit, plus vaccinations, plus straw for bedding in the winter, plus salt, chalk, plus rent of pasture and the shepherd has to pay. Maybe I forgot something else.)))) And of course it's always tied to this cow, 6 am - milking, the cow does not have New Year and March 8th.))) You still need to milk. Hard work is it. Well, I wrote it all from memory according to feed, but in general it is necessary to count all feed according to zootechnical tables, otherwise you will not see luck.)))
          PS Usually a normal cow gives from 6 to 8 tons of milk per lactation (10 months) if she is fed correctly.
          1. hohol95
            hohol95 8 January 2022 23: 05
            +3
            All this is great, but hi
            In monetary terms, one cow is not profitable !!!
            If the feed is not "free" as it used to be.
            1. alekseykabanets
              alekseykabanets 9 January 2022 12: 12
              +5
              Quote: hohol95
              In monetary terms, one cow is not profitable !!!

              But how to say, if there is grazing and hay harvesting, it is profitable. It is not profitable to donate milk to the "barrel", of course, today they accept 20 rubles per liter. I blew up people like that, I made cheese (kachetu, Russian, halloumi), kefir, fermented baked milk, sour cream, ice cream, like in the USSR, but I also have a big family, five children. It's more profitable for me to keep a cow than to buy milk. I missed cheese and milk, now I have moved, by the spring, maybe in the summer I’ll have a cow again.))))
              1. kalibr
                9 January 2022 12: 49
                +2
                Quote: aleksejkabanets
                maybe in the summer I'll have a cow again.))))

                Well, you are great. I have two familiar families in the village. One has 2 cows just for herself, the other has 20 - these cheese are made for the whole village!
                1. alekseykabanets
                  alekseykabanets 9 January 2022 15: 20
                  +1
                  Quote: kalibr
                  Well, you are great. ......

                  Thanks! I'm just tired of store-bought milk, I can't really drink it, and now I don't eat store-bought cheese at all. You quickly get used to good things.))) Semi-hard cheeses are not difficult to make, it is more difficult to make cheeses like Roquefort, the requirements for production conditions are very high, until the mold has sprouted well, almost laboratory requirements for the room.
                  Quote: kalibr
                  One has 2 cows just for herself, the other has 20 - these cheese are made for the whole village!

                  Yes, 2 cows, this is only for myself, one is being milked, the other is at the start. And the local villagers did not take cheese from me, of course, it was very expensive for them, they took it from the cities and sent it to Moscow through shift workers.
              2. hohol95
                hohol95 9 January 2022 14: 11
                0
                One hay?
                You wrote both cake and other compound feeds.
                And this is money ...
                Oh, it's good that we don't live in the EU.
                Otherwise they would have sued you for selling uncertified products !!!
                1. alekseykabanets
                  alekseykabanets 9 January 2022 15: 07
                  +2
                  Quote: hohol95
                  One hay?
                  You wrote both cake and other compound feeds.

                  Hay - this will be the main expenditure part, if you buy it, it is expensive! If there is nowhere to graze and there is no area for haymaking, then there is no point in starting a cow.
          2. Sergey BM
            Sergey BM 9 January 2022 11: 02
            +1
            Plus vitamins, plus a first aid kit
            Private traders constantly have antibiotics in their milk.
            Farms are safer.
            Never buy from private traders - it's me for the rest of the participants.
            And it's better not to drink milk at all, seriously.
            1. alekseykabanets
              alekseykabanets 9 January 2022 12: 05
              +3
              Quote: Sergey BM
              Private traders constantly have antibiotics in their milk.

              Where did they get this stupidity? Antibiotics in milk can only be found after vaccination and during treatment of the cow. During this period, you must not drink milk! However, it is still accepted "in the barrel". Is the farmer much different from the private owner? The only form of business organization is private household plots with more than 30 cows.
              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 9 January 2022 15: 32
                +2
                I apologize, colleague, for my ignorance in animal husbandry, but how do antibiotics for cattle differ from human ones?
                1. alekseykabanets
                  alekseykabanets 10 January 2022 08: 30
                  +3
                  Quote: 3x3zsave
                  I apologize, colleague, for my ignorance in animal husbandry, but how do antibiotics for cattle differ from human ones?

                  Yes, practically nothing, it is simply cheaper, perhaps the degree of purification is slightly worse. And they are applied in the same cases, i.e. with a serious illness. Moreover, the use of antibiotics is always associated with a violation of the microflora in the gastrointestinal tract of cattle and, accordingly, requires an expensive restoration of this very microflora, otherwise normal milk yield will not be seen. The digestive tract of cattle is very different from the digestive tract of a person, in fact, all the splitting and processing of roughage occurs through the bacteria living in her (cow) in the digestive tract. I had 2 cows, 5-6 years old, probably, so one was never injected with antibiotics at all, and the second two courses were injected in 5 years, once after giving birth, she bled, and the second time a tick, a carrier of piroplasmosis, bit it and that's it. In addition to antibiotics, milk cannot be drunk after an injection from worms (2 times a year) and after vaccinations (brucellosis, pangolin, etc.), the same injection is 4-5 per year.
                  1. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave 10 January 2022 13: 02
                    +3
                    Thank you for the detailed answer!
              2. Sergey BM
                Sergey BM 9 January 2022 15: 56
                0
                I took this "nonsense" from the milk intake.
                It's just a fact, it is.
                The milk is checked upon admission.
                And almost never antibiotics come from the farm.
                But private owners with one or two cows regularly.
                Of course, it is taken, but not for sour milk for obvious reasons.

                But again, I repeat - you shouldn't buy anything from private traders.
                Do not drink "fresh" or "fresh" milk at all.
                If you really want to - ultra-pasteurized or sour milk.
                Better not to drink at all.
                1. alekseykabanets
                  alekseykabanets 10 January 2022 08: 57
                  +1
                  Quote: Sergey BM
                  I took this "nonsense" from the milk intake.
                  It's just a fact, it is.

                  And do many private traders bring milk there? Explain to me why I need to inject my cattle with antibiotics? What would the owner of cattle, on an ongoing basis, inject cattle with antibiotics.)))) You tell the city, maybe they will believe.
                  Quote: Sergey BM
                  But private owners with one or two cows regularly.

                  Explain to me why the owner of one or two cows, in general to you, they say. factory, carry milk? To drag there from 30-100 liters daily? What for? To hand it over to you for 20 rubles. per liter?
                  Quote: Sergey BM
                  But again, I repeat - you shouldn't buy anything from private traders.

                  Well, yes, buy a factory-made one in a hypermarket, with 2.5 fat content from powdered milk, maybe you will be lucky and palm oil will not be there.))))
                  Quote: Sergey BM
                  Do not drink "fresh" or "fresh" milk at all.
                  If you really want to - ultra-pasteurized or sour milk.
                  Better not to drink at all.

                  Bravo!)))) Drink UHT milk, with a three to six month shelf life, where there is not a single live bacteria.)))) Is it very useful? What, then, is its use? Sour milk generally smiled, but what kind of sour milk is it, if it has a shelf life of more than a month, can live bacteria remain there at all? I have four children who grew up on fresh or even fresh milk, I myself do not drink store-bought milk, because it is ALWAYS worse in quality.
                  1. Sergey BM
                    Sergey BM 10 January 2022 09: 22
                    -2
                    And do many private traders bring milk there?
                    Is this a joke?
                    Don't you know about the existence of milk collection points?
                    Where how.
                    It happens up to half.
                    What would be the owner of the cattle, on an ongoing basis
                    Again, it is not clear what, the translation of the arrows, bringing to the point of absurdity?
                    No, not permanently.
                    Sour milk generally smiled, but what kind of sour milk is it?
                    Yes, this is this sour milk, ordinary, without antibiotics.
                    It is guaranteed that the leaven does not work with them.
                    Living bacteria can stay there.
                    Of course they are not!
                    And this is good - lactic acid bacteria die in the stomach.
                    But others are not always.
                    I have four children who grew up fresh
                    Yeah, nu-nu ...
                    And I myself and my brothers grew up without milk and I have no sick leave in principle - exactly the same incoherent advertising cry as yours.

                    Once again - people, do not get fooled by advertising, do not buy from private traders, especially from those who do not rent - as a rule, something is wrong with them, a huge number of unscrupulous ones.
                    And it's better not to drink milk at all.
                    I drink ayran sometimes and no "fresh", nafig, my dear ...
                    1. alekseykabanets
                      alekseykabanets 10 January 2022 11: 16
                      +1
                      Quote: Sergey BM
                      Is this a joke?
                      Don't you know about the existence of milk collection points?

                      Krasnodar Territory, Labinsky District, milk collection points are absent as a class.))) A car with a barrel drives around the villages and villages, in the morning, and takes milk. Sometimes he checks the density so that the collective farmers do not pour water into the milk, this is all the checks. The amount of fat in milk does not bother them in any way, which leads to the conclusion that vegetable fat is added at the plant.))) About 20 rubles are paid for a liter of milk. Tell me what kind of d_u_r_a_k for 20 rubles. will there be good milk there (in the barrel)? Given that the price of milk in the Labinsky district is about 140 rubles. for a 3-liter bottle? In addition, cottage cheese, cheese (both of the suluguni type and of the Russian type), from a good courtyard, is always better and more expensive than the store one.
                      Quote: Sergey BM
                      No, not permanently.

                      Here, that is, on an ongoing basis, no one from the private household plots brings you milk at 20 rubles per liter! And he does the right thing. And they bring you all kinds of guano, which they can neither sell nor process. That is, milk from sick cows, vaccinations, after anthelmintic injections, etc.
                      Quote: Sergey BM
                      Yes, this is this sour milk, ordinary, without antibiotics.

                      Don't be cunning, I asked
                      Quote: aleksejkabanets
                      Sour milk generally smiled, but what kind of sour milk is it, if it has a shelf life of more than a month, can live bacteria remain there at all?

                      That is, what is the use of sour milk if it does not have live bacteria, but only preservatives?
                      Quote: Sergey BM
                      Of course they are not!
                      And this is good - lactic acid bacteria die in the stomach.

                      Aha ha ha! You tell people not to eat living oysters, they still die in the stomach.)))) In the USSR, my first daughter in infancy (from dysbiosis, it seems) was prescribed by doctors to drink narine (an Armenian fermented milk drink), with a recipe I came to laboratory (Armavir) where they gave it fresh to me and it had a shelf life of two days, as far as I remember, probably it was not just that when the USSR was discharged? Were there Soviet doctors? Can I tell you how, in terms of its effect on the body, a two-day natural kefir differs from a three-day one? All bacteria die in the stomach.))))
                      Quote: Sergey BM
                      Once again - people, do not get fooled by advertising, do not buy from private traders, especially from those who do not rent - as a rule, something is wrong with them,

                      Yeah, something is wrong with them, 20 rubles each. they don’t want to give milk to my uncle for a liter.))) 100% something “wrong”!))))
                      Quote: Sergey BM
                      a huge number of unscrupulous.

                      There are enough unscrupulous people everywhere, there are exactly the same number of them among young people. You have to buy from the same people, it is better, of course, if you have seen his farm.
                      Quote: Sergey BM
                      And it's better not to drink milk at all.
                      I drink ayran sometimes and no "fresh", nafig, my dear ...

                      Well, yes, yes, eat store-bought guano, which is produced by corporations, rub Galina Blanca in a mug instead of milk, and your health will increase by leaps and bounds.
    3. Non-fighter
      Non-fighter 8 January 2022 23: 44
      +2
      Excuse me, but where did the eggplants come from? Judging by what I saw from local homeless people from the landfill :(
      1. hohol95
        hohol95 8 January 2022 23: 54
        +2
        Maybe not from a landfill, but clearly second-hand!
        We bought a soft drink. We drank. The container was washed and put under milk!
        1. Non-fighter
          Non-fighter 8 January 2022 23: 56
          +1
          This is how much you need to drink to "serve" a cow ???
          1. hohol95
            hohol95 9 January 2022 00: 29
            +2
            Nuuu, you can collect it from friends!
            Or you can fill the stolen milk powder with water and sell it like milk from your beloved cow!
            And I've heard of such a thing!
        2. alekseykabanets
          alekseykabanets 10 January 2022 09: 04
          0
          Guys, the eggplants are bought new, otherwise there is no way. You will never wash it at all this plastic eggplant.))) The milk will turn sour.)))
          1. hohol95
            hohol95 10 January 2022 10: 18
            +1
            Show the person who bought clean "eggplants" in 97-99!
            For bottling "milk from a personal ladybug".
            1. alekseykabanets
              alekseykabanets 10 January 2022 11: 23
              +1
              Quote: hohol95
              Show the person who bought clean "eggplants" in 97-99!
              For bottling "milk from a personal ladybug".

              Yes, I saw eggplants only a few years ago when selling milk. All our life private traders have been selling milk in three liter bottles.
  6. Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 8 January 2022 18: 38
    +16
    Wow, how cool .. I put the word "war" in the title of the article .. I called the trips to the store battles and you can safely place on VO, earn a penny .. well, the cunning citizen Shpakovsky, I just want to remember the saying about Pushkin, whose son he is. Yes I'm afraid they'll be punished again.
    1. kalibr
      8 January 2022 18: 54
      +2
      "Study, student, while I am alive!"
      1. Catfish
        Catfish 8 January 2022 20: 16
        +10
        "Study, student, while I am alive!"


        "The Russians do not abandon their own in the war!" (C)

    2. depressant
      depressant 8 January 2022 19: 13
      +14
      Dear Andrey, what we see in stores is a war. Political scientists call this an "uprising of the elites." This is part of the so-called fourth industrial revolution - the uprising of the elites, which is taking place in all countries, directed against ordinary citizens, small and medium-sized businesses. There is such a famous author - Schwab, the ideologist of this war. With utmost frankness and cynicism, he literally said the following:
      “If the first three industrial revolutions are what we do to the world, man does to the world, you do to the world. The fourth industrial revolution is what they do to you ... -modified, then your identity changes ... The fourth industrial revolution is a change in the human genome, it is the creation of a different type of person. " That is, Schwab has articulated the task of the transhumanists. Remember, in the movie "Lord of the Rings", in the second part of Saruman, and in the third - the orc Gothmog broadcast: "The era of people is over! The time of the orcs begins!" This is exactly what the transhumanists want to turn people into - orcs.
      Haven't you noticed that food that once went bad for two or three days calmly lie in the refrigerator for ten days, or even more? Because they are stuffed with preservatives.
      This is war, Andrei.
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 8 January 2022 19: 27
        +13
        "Eh, now I would like to bury Galina Blanca in boiling water! - Better than a doshirak, there are nasty chemicals in it!" (WITH)
        Good evening, Lyudmila Yakovlevna!
        1. depressant
          depressant 8 January 2022 19: 58
          +13
          Good evening, Anton!
          It was not so long ago. In the "Five" I went through the wine department (there are few people there, you can quickly go to the cash desks) and lingered a little, pretending to be looking at juices. To listen to the conversation. The men, holding a pot-bellied plastic bottle of beer in their hands, examined it and chuckled nervously. Like, it was one and a half liters, but it became one and four. If this continues, then the manufacturer will soon cross the border, beyond which what is closer to one and a half, will become closer to a liter. And the price is still higher than for one and a half ....
          Ten years ago, a wonderful Armenian yogurt was sold in liter cans. It took a little time, and I found that the cans were 0 liters. Then, for financial reasons, I stopped buying. Now I'm looking - it's on the shelves! The jar is narrow, trying to play the role of a liter, 95 l. The price is twice as high as what was once paid for a liter. This is how we are taught to reduce consumption. By creating a military-like environment. It is not necessary to bomb at all. It is enough to reduce the sold volume while simultaneously increasing the price. I am gloomy today. Because they are fighting with me.
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 8 January 2022 20: 25
            +12
            "It used to be: you go into a store with an empty bag and 100 rubles in your pocket and you leave with the same 100 rubles! And now, cameras were hung everywhere ..."
            1. depressant
              depressant 8 January 2022 20: 30
              +6
              And now, cameras were hung everywhere ...

              You should be joking. I also wanted to laugh, but somehow everything is not going well. And so I fold, and so ... I saw how the Japanese fold and pack, it is not given to me.
              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 8 January 2022 20: 46
                +7
                Despondency is a mortal sin.
                1. depressant
                  depressant 8 January 2022 21: 12
                  +3
                  Another's despondency is a mortal sin, and one's own - so always please! wassat )))
                  It can even be elevated to dignity as a Hamlet image.
                  1. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave 8 January 2022 21: 26
                    +3
                    Rather, the image of Pierrot
                    1. depressant
                      depressant 8 January 2022 21: 31
                      +4
                      Pierrot is the quintessence of external manifestation, Hamlet is the ideologue of despondency.
                      1. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 8 January 2022 21: 36
                        +3
                        "Good play! In the finale - five corpses!" (WITH)
                      2. depressant
                        depressant 8 January 2022 22: 34
                        +3
                        I would say only five. Optimism never hurts.
                      3. Hantengri
                        Hantengri 8 January 2022 23: 16
                        +1
                        Quote: depressant
                        Pierrot is the quintessence of external manifestation, Hamlet is the ideologue of despondency.

                        It depends on what kind of Hamlet! If Shakespearean, then - yes. And the one that is described by Saxon Grammar, in the "Acts of the Danes" - had an enviable optimism, a very peculiar sense of humor and philanthropy worthy of a Viking:
                        Delighted at this plan, Fengon departed, as if on a long journey. And the one who gave the advice secretly made his way into the bedroom, where Hamlet was supposed to close with his mother, and settled down under a straw mat. However, Hamlet had no shortage of means against intrigues. Fearing that some hidden ears might overhear him, the first thing he did was to pretend to be sick. He crowed like a vocal rooster, and, pounding on the sides with his hands, as if flapping his wings, jumped on the mat and began, swinging, jumping back and forth, intending to find out if anything was hiding there. And when he felt a lump under his feet, he felt this place with his sword, pierced the lying one and, pulling him out of the cache, killed him. He chopped his body into pieces, scalded it with boiling water and threw it through an open hole in the drain pipe onto the feed for the pigs, covering the stinking dirt with pitiful remains.
          2. bk0010
            bk0010 9 January 2022 00: 27
            0
            Quote: depressant
            The jar is narrow, trying to play the role of a liter, 0,8 l.
            For such things, I switched from domestic milk to Parmalat.
          3. hohol95
            hohol95 9 January 2022 15: 14
            +3
            There was beer in a 2,5 liter container !!! crying
            Then only 1,5.
            Then the central firms switched to 1,3, from our local brewery to 1,42.
            And now only 1,3 liters ...
            And jars with bottles of 0,45 each!
            And in the middle of the dead, they sold 0,45 liters of vodka!
        2. hohol95
          hohol95 8 January 2022 20: 04
          +1
          "Galina s Blanka" host put up for auction - from 1 to 1,5 billion ...
          No desire to buy ???
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 8 January 2022 20: 21
            +9
            "I have the desire to buy a house, but I have no opportunity. I have the opportunity to buy a goat, but I have no desire." (WITH)
            1. depressant
              depressant 8 January 2022 20: 49
              +7
              They say that the Pakistanis have already bought Galina Blanca. You can enjoy the goat
              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 8 January 2022 20: 56
                +5
                "A millionaire did not come out of me, I will have to pre-qualify as a house manager." (C)
                1. depressant
                  depressant 8 January 2022 21: 34
                  +3
                  The house manager has to work. Better to manage some business that imitates being busy with business.
                  1. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave 8 January 2022 21: 39
                    +3
                    "I would gnaw bureaucracy like a wolf!" (WITH)
                    1. depressant
                      depressant 8 January 2022 22: 36
                      +2
                      And you try as a man. Do not wait for the full moon.
                      1. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 8 January 2022 22: 41
                        +2
                        You don't have to wait, the mushrooms helped the Normans ...
                      2. depressant
                        depressant 8 January 2022 22: 59
                        +1
                        And, so you are here for them ... Do they agree?
                      3. hohol95
                        hohol95 8 January 2022 23: 01
                        +2
                        Forgot about the wolf skin on muscular shoulders good
              2. hohol95
                hohol95 8 January 2022 23: 00
                +3
                Gentlemen from Nepal!
                C.G. Foods
              3. BedMax
                BedMax 8 January 2022 23: 19
                +1
                Make a dry ration manufacturer).
        3. Region-25.rus
          Region-25.rus 9 January 2022 11: 01
          +3
          Better than a noodle, it has more fatty chemicals in it! "(C)
          "Doshirak gives more tender aroma!" (With) laughing
      2. Terenin
        Terenin 8 January 2022 20: 29
        +7
        Quote: depressant
        Haven't you noticed that food that once spoiled within two or three days calmly lie in the refrigerator for ten days, or even more?

        Yes, no longer in the refrigerator, but on the heating battery winked
        1. depressant
          depressant 8 January 2022 21: 16
          +2
          Colleague, what about butter? They write: "Butter, 82%."
          But there is no taste! A hint of taste comes through with difficulty. Thank goodness no beef fat.
          1. Nirag013
            Nirag013 9 January 2022 11: 33
            +2
            Somewhere (I don't remember where) I read a way to tell real butter from a fake one. The bottom line: put the test product in the freezer and freeze it. After that, you take it out of the freezer and accidentally drop it on the floor from your height. So, REAL butter has to SPLIT into pieces. Well, if this did not happen ...
            I myself am afraid to do this with the store oil ... calmer, you know, to be in the dark!))
      3. Old Michael
        Old Michael 8 January 2022 21: 34
        +7
        ... products that once spoiled within two or three days calmly lie in the refrigerator for ten days, or even more ... Because they are stuffed with preservatives.


        Dear Lyudmila Yakovlevna! If only preservatives!
        Here I have a large meat-processing plant across the street.

        Now there, as you can see, there are only heels of trucks, because it is Friday. From Sunday afternoon until Monday morning there will be a full house, all two dozen shipping portals are busy, the surrounding roads are packed with trucks waiting in line with numbers from all neighboring regions. Their goal is to deliver “sausage joys” to the shops on Monday, where staff change and price tags are usually changed from Monday to Tuesday.
        There is, of course, a company store at the plant. Do you think there are crowded lines? No. Because most of the residents of the surrounding neighborhoods are former and current employees of this very plant, and they will not buy its products even for a penny.
        The garage neighbor, a young guy about thirty-five, worked there as a technologist. Quit last year, saying that he was not hired to work as a supervisor. The technologist no longer has the right to speak: here's the recipe, here's the technological map, ensure the execution of the tunic-in-tunic, you'd better not remember about GOSTs and TUs.
        What's in the recipe? An old colleague of mine, after being transferred to the reserve, works at a factory well known for advertising curds-yoghurts. According to him, the firm does not receive its main income from them. There, tens of tons of products are shipped daily in small plastic barrels with labels such as Braunschweig, Finnish Cervelat, Creamy sausages, etc. In barrels there are ready-made mixtures for the production of sausage products, including preservatives, dyes, flavors and others, and others, including even pieces of fat, which should be, for example, in pork fat or "Amateur". It is clear that there is no meat there. Its imitation is excellently obtained from plant proteins. But what the imitation of lard is made of - I can’t even imagine (but it’s definitely not delivered to the factory).
        These barrels are being bought up not only by small producers, but also by the same factories that are in my neighborhood. But meat is still delivered to the plant, as well as offal with mechanical deboning waste.
        In general, sausages are self-excluded from our family diet.

        Health to you!
        hi
        1. depressant
          depressant 8 January 2022 21: 52
          +2
          Oh, wow! ...
          Good evening, Mikhail! )))
          For example, I only knew how to increase the initial mass of the product during the sale. Live fish is placed in a cage without air access, where it swallows water, and its weight can increase by 1,5-2 times. The meat is chipped with water with moisture-retaining agents, and its weight increases dramatically. Once I discovered this myself. You cook meat, and from a large piece it turns into a piece.
          But the sausage ... you shook me! I see the prices for this sausage. For example, Brunswick. 1400 rubles per kg. People take. Probably tasty. Probably because they don't know what taste it really should be.
          In general, it looks like we are already in the future. In what we are promised in the form of a kingdom entirely of an artificial product. The funny thing is that experts are struggling to grow meat in test tubes, and our craftsmen, it turns out, have long ago created an indistinguishable substitute. From plants. It remains only to replace the plants with something.
        2. olgherd
          olgherd 10 January 2022 19: 14
          -1
          I don’t understand one thing. If the manufacturers have learned so well to counterfeit animal fat with vegetable fat and pass off synthetics as meat, which is indistinguishable from real sausage, why then vegan stores are inundated with all kinds of soy meat and other handicrafts for meat, none of which is even close to these synthetic sausages of yours ... If so, vegans would have swept away only on the way, and I am trying to keep the post, too, I have smashed such an under-sausage.
          1. Old Michael
            Old Michael 10 January 2022 19: 42
            0
            the manufacturers have learned so well to counterfeit animal fat with vegetable fat and pass off synthetics as meat, which is indistinguishable from real sausage

            Good evening, Oleg!
            The fact of the matter is that with real sausage, such "sausage products" were not scattered around!
            Lyudmila Yakovlevna has just bitterness about this:
            People take. Probably tasty. Probably because they don't know what taste it really should be.


            For example, I once liked the boiled-smoked Moskovskaya. In recent years, I have tried options that are very different in price from a variety of manufacturers - from giants to small sausage shops and "farm family" production. This is anything but the Moskovskaya sausage!
            For fun, try frying a piece of ham in a skillet. Or warm up the most decent sausage in the microwave. Such experiments have completely discouraged my appetite!

            Yes, and I'm trying to keep the post, I also crumbled such an under-sausage

            The plant I mentioned uses meat ingredients (including MMO and offal) in its products. However, there are enough flour trucks, trucks without refrigerated equipment and suspicious-looking tanks in the queue for unloading.

            hi
      4. Andrey VOV
        Andrey VOV 8 January 2022 21: 50
        +3
        Well, of course, sugar used to be sweeter and vodka drunker, in any case, with the development of chemistry, genetic engineering, in any case it would come, in the West earlier, in our country a little later
        1. depressant
          depressant 8 January 2022 22: 49
          +1
          Andrey, you are laughing about sugar, but imagine it’s true. It has long been established that sugar, which smells, as they say in the Kuban, a beet (sugar beet), is yellowish and sweet, I put 2 teaspoons in a cup. Bleached, pure, odorless sugar, fine - less sweet, it takes three tablespoons - that's how it is? This is how they do something with sugar, increasing its volumetric consumption. And the packages are 800 grams. Not enough, you take two, thereby increasing the one-time profit of the manufacturer and the shopkeeper. I remember how in 2019 the Kuban people cried, they say sugar is too cheap to sell, we will close enterprises. It was? It was! Blackmail in the direction of the government was, so as not to investigate the subsequent price collusion and packaging of 950 - 800 gr.
          1. Andrey VOV
            Andrey VOV 8 January 2022 23: 18
            +2
            Look, do not be lazy about the technology for the production of sugar from beets. It has not radically changed for a century, and you also need anthracite coal, high-quality limestone. And in terms of color and smell, it's like with sunflower oil, the degree of purification and processing.
          2. olgherd
            olgherd 10 January 2022 19: 17
            +1
            The size of the package has little effect on consumption. If earlier I needed 4 kilogram bags of buckwheat a month, now five 800g. The price tag has taken off, of course, but the consumed volume is about the same.
            1. depressant
              depressant 10 January 2022 19: 33
              +1
              My sugar consumption has increased wassat )))
      5. Bolt cutter
        Bolt cutter 8 January 2022 22: 59
        +6
        what transhumanists want to turn humans into is orcs.
        Weekly binge - and you're done wassat

        1. depressant
          depressant 8 January 2022 23: 08
          +2
          Alex, the joker! )))
          It's a pity, it's time for me to tear myself away from the phone - eyesight!
        2. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 9 January 2022 11: 57
          +4
          "Orcs are elves who grew up in depressed areas" (C)
          1. Bolt cutter
            Bolt cutter 9 January 2022 12: 21
            +2
            Orcs are elves who grew up in depressed areas. "


            And they are proud of their origins!
            1. 3x3zsave
              3x3zsave 9 January 2022 12: 27
              +4
              And even demand compensation
              1. Bolt cutter
                Bolt cutter 9 January 2022 12: 42
                +5
                These are not orcs, they are just bibizians.
                1. 3x3zsave
                  3x3zsave 9 January 2022 15: 29
                  +3
                  With this, I strongly agree! The abscess ripened for a very long time.
      6. TANKISTONE
        TANKISTONE 9 January 2022 20: 13
        +1
        depressant (lyudmila yakovlevna kuznetsova)
        ... Schwab, the ideologist of this war ... With all due respect, Schwab is not an ideologist:
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 9 January 2022 20: 19
          0
          Quote: TANKISTONE
          Schwab is not an ideologist:

          Fursov is a clever and analyst. Rarely only videos come out hi
  7. Undecim
    Undecim 8 January 2022 18: 45
    +11
    As in any war, you will need pre-developed strategies and tactics.

    This is all an illusion. There is only one way to "defeat the store" - not to go to it at all. But this option is impossible, and the rest of the "strategies and tactics" create only the illusion of local success. So relax and try to have fun.
    1. Catfish
      Catfish 8 January 2022 19: 55
      +6
      ... relax and have fun.


      That's how it works out for anyone. wink laughing

  8. Lucy
    Lucy 8 January 2022 18: 47
    +1
    They began to write all sorts of mud in the VO. And there are even comments.
  9. Gardamir
    Gardamir 8 January 2022 18: 57
    -2
    All this is interesting. But now there is online trade, and they have not yet learned to hunt there
    1. Sergey Valov
      Sergey Valov 8 January 2022 19: 31
      +9
      They have their own bells and whistles - delivery may turn out to be more expensive than a purchase, there are no pick-up points, or they are far away, cheaper in two weeks, but today they are more expensive, in an online store the goods may turn out to be more expensive than in a usual one, you can buy a courier for hours, they may not bring something that ordered, etc.
      1. Nirag013
        Nirag013 9 January 2022 11: 43
        +1
        "They have their own bells and whistles - delivery may be more expensive than buying"
        I agree with this categorically! Moreover, it is very much more expensive, sometimes even at times.
  10. the finish
    the finish 8 January 2022 19: 17
    +4
    The stores' own brands are much inferior in quality and are almost always net underweight. Even before the big holidays, the quality of promotional products with discounts is also much more charged than in simple times. For example, cola, juices, canned food, sausages .... For these holidays (NG, May, March) I try to buy some goods in advance. I also know the prices to a penny, you can't cheat on fake shares, you yourself are!
    1. kalibr
      8 January 2022 19: 28
      +1
      Quote: finish
      cola, juices,

      Well, we don't drink cola at all. Juices - all homemade: apple, grape, tomato, pear, black chokeberry - the latter is not juice, but in the form of syrup, diluted with water and drunk.
      1. depressant
        depressant 8 January 2022 20: 10
        +3
        Vyacheslav Olegovich, good evening!
        You have already repeatedly referred in various articles to the fact that you have a lot from your own garden. And when do you have time to write articles?
        1. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 8 January 2022 21: 05
          +4
          "Pops - pops,
          Will write poems. " (WITH)
          1. depressant
            depressant 8 January 2022 21: 20
            +5
            Here I finally laughed! Ay, yes Mayakovsky! Ay, yeah ... wassat )))
            Only now to add about "puff, puff, puff my factories" somehow does not work. Do not puff.
            1. 3x3zsave
              3x3zsave 8 January 2022 21: 22
              +4
              Well, thank God! My day was not in vain!
              1. depressant
                depressant 8 January 2022 21: 36
                +3
                Come on! The day off is the day off, in vain anyway it does not happen.
        2. kalibr
          8 January 2022 21: 40
          +5
          Quote: depressant
          And when do you have time to write articles?

          I get up early. In the summer at 5 am. Until 8.00 - article. Then search for design and editing. Then lunch, then work again, then lunch, sleep until 15.00, then tea, then work until 18.30. Dinner, watching a movie, work again. Dream. If not an article, then work in the country.
          Let's say building a barn. But at the dacha I work only physically. I write at home ... There are a lot of things from the dacha: frozen peas, beans, carrots, onions, dried apples, raspberries, grape wine, frozen tomatoes, basil, green beans, garlic shoots, dried rose hips, frozen honeysuckle ... All kinds of jam .. ...
          This year, reinforced concrete paths are planned in different directions.
          1. depressant
            depressant 8 January 2022 22: 57
            +3
            Yes, you are handsome, Vyacheslav Olegovich!))) This is purposefulness! This ability to use every second is useful! ... But they didn't mention the first breakfast. wassat )))
            I can also get up at 5 in the morning. By the way, it was like that before. Spun, nothing is done, lo and behold, and already 8 in the morning. Where did the time go? What was it spent on?
            On thoughts. I think a lot.
            1. Aerodrome
              Aerodrome 9 January 2022 00: 57
              +4
              Quote: depressant
              On thoughts. I think a lot.

              "knowledge multiplies sorrow" ... I "slept enough" today "half past three in the morning", I spent the time reading yours Lyudmila, with Anton, comments - I think it was not in vain, they made fun of me, corrected my mood, thank you. And Vyacheslav, separately thanks for the "lack of availability" of Kazakhstan and Ukraine, are tired!
            2. kalibr
              9 January 2022 09: 24
              0
              Quote: depressant
              On thoughts. I think a lot.

              Here! This is the root of your evil. And we must not think, but act. Remember how Marshak was there? "What is the head for? What would I wear a steel helmet, or a gas mask, so that I would not think anything - the Fuhrer thinks for him!" Here I am - my wife sets goals and tasks: go to the market, build a barn, make shelves for canned food ... Prepare a salad. And ... I do. I don’t even think so. Hands are doing. And the brain, the brain at this time, composes the plot of the next chapter or article. Then he got tired, take a break and sit and write. Again, breakfast is always on my spouse, in the meantime I am doing exercises. We all work as one team, so we do a lot. We don't watch TV. Only "The World Inside Out" and cinema. We just watched a very good 1955 film "Distant Horizons" - I highly recommend it. And as for the "handsome". Then I was 20 years old, well, 55 maximum. And now the whole head is gray and bags under the eyes. It doesn't paint anyone.
              1. depressant
                depressant 9 January 2022 09: 46
                +1
                To begin with, "I think a lot" is not the root of my evil, this is a virtue. I am thinking about my mathematical constructions. Mathematics is not done on paper, it is done in my head, doubts are scrolling and, most importantly, why this is so, and not in another way. Suddenly it came, it is true, but how to prove the guess? This commentary is easy to write, just your fingers on the phone keypad, and thoughts flowed, have time to click! It doesn't work like that with mathematics. This requires uncontested accuracy. And when you think about it, thoughts begin to go in a circle, and the right decision is outside of it! Break free! ...
                And ... you are flirtatious, it turns out wassat )))
                In modern times, a handsome man is understood not as an appearance, but as a worthy manifestation of human essence. But you look very much even in the photo. There are people - the older, the more imposing, the more attractive outwardly. Is that what you wanted to hear? laughing )))
                Here, you heard)))
                1. kalibr
                  9 January 2022 12: 57
                  +1
                  Quote: depressant
                  I reflect on my mathematical constructions

                  Then this is not evil, but work!
                  Quote: depressant

                  Here we heard

                  Thanks of course. But for me, appearance does not play a big role now.
                  1. depressant
                    depressant 9 January 2022 13: 57
                    +2
                    Imagine for me too wassat )))
                    However, when I was filmed for a passport in 10's and saw the photo, I thought: "But there was a very good appearance at one time!" The fact is that I have not looked in the mirror for many years, I just forgot to worry about it. Recently I looked at myself in the mirror in the store ... Who is this creature?!? Am I ... I don’t do it again since then. Do I need it? They say that a dead person's facial features are smoothed out, and he becomes younger, more beautiful. One hope for this wassat )))
                    1. kalibr
                      9 January 2022 14: 07
                      +1
                      Quote: depressant
                      They say that a dead person's facial features are smoothed out, and he becomes younger, more beautiful.

                      I hope that they will not say this about us soon!
                      1. Aerodrome
                        Aerodrome 9 January 2022 14: 14
                        +4
                        Quote: kalibr
                        Quote: depressant
                        They say that a dead person's facial features are smoothed out, and he becomes younger, more beautiful.

                        I hope that they will not say this about us soon!

                        uh..found a new remedy for wrinkles.)))
                      2. depressant
                        depressant 9 January 2022 14: 22
                        +2
                        In Russia, the hopes of young men are nourished, and the elders are served a penny! wassat )))
                        Anecdote in the topic:
                        In most cases, lunch in Russia is not food, but the time of day.
                      3. Aerodrome
                        Aerodrome 9 January 2022 15: 48
                        +2
                        Quote: depressant
                        In most cases, lunch in Russia is not food, but the time of day.

                        do we eat-day, do not eat-night? (at the refrigerator, own opinion)))
                      4. Aerodrome
                        Aerodrome 9 January 2022 17: 41
                        +1
                        Lyudka, you are an antidepressant!)))
  11. Simfy
    Simfy 8 January 2022 20: 09
    +5
    Quote: smith 55
    Yes, you have to stand up for your money.
    I also noticed that going with my wife to the store, it takes a lot more money.
    And if I go with my granddaughter (sometimes I have to), I warn her right away, you can choose only one thing. And the main thing is not to give in, in spite of any tears, now he already knows for sure.

    "old redneck") xs, I spend more in the store than my wife, there are no grandchildren yet, my son is a student (from time to time he earns himself from school) we can spend with him on "clothes", but we try on quality things that will serve more than one year, not a "squeak of fashion" ... about the market, the more you know and smile at the seller ... the more he will divorce you ..
  12. Van 16
    Van 16 8 January 2022 20: 09
    +6
    "And then I'll go to the grocery store as a person,
    And to spite my homies I'll knock out a check on the cake.
    And with this cake I will go to my home.
    And Klava, opening the door, exclaims: "My God!" (WITH)

    Well, yes, there is a war with stores, and in general the stores are winning, just stupidly raising prices. hi
    1. depressant
      depressant 8 January 2022 20: 57
      +6
      That's right, colleague of Van 16.
      Last year, I noted at one of our forums that by throwing handouts to the people, the government does not raise the welfare of the people, but the owners of stores, large and small, wholesalers and manufacturers. Indeed, the handouts began exactly after the owners of retail chains grumbled, they say, the revenue fell, they say, the power, do something. After all, many buyers because of covid have lost their jobs, and hence their income. And the people took the received handouts to the shops. This is how the authorities "gracefully" benefited the bloodsuckers, who immediately raised prices.
  13. Simfy
    Simfy 8 January 2022 20: 18
    +3
    [quote = yuriy55]
    I "fight" with them like that. [/ quote] [/ spoiler] [/ quote] Judging by the post, you are a pensioner, and it's a pity that you have to "fight" with the store ... and not come to the store and buy the necessary products (despite the promotions and discounts) , although perhaps this is not the level of prosperity, but simply "age" (((
  14. nikvic46
    nikvic46 8 January 2022 20: 18
    +1
    I somehow thought about how much of our time is spent on advertising. Watching TV, working on a computer, we waste a huge amount of time, electrical energy, wear and tear of equipment. Although those who have money to spare, these ads are not needed. Often doctors, under the guise of useful advice, advertise products. And as I was convinced, they advertise those products that do not use in demand. I go to the store early, and I don't participate in this war.
  15. lubesky
    lubesky 8 January 2022 20: 22
    +5
    Thanks to the author! Good article. I will add my own five kopecks, because after the contract for a long time at the beginning of the 90s, I worked in a large regional grocery retailer in Bashkiria. I myself saw the evolution of the grocery market with my own eyes as a logistician in a large company. Immediately I want to note the most important fact, as in all industries, Russia inevitably moved and came to a total monopoly of the food market. In the XNUMXs, we started through many former Soviet stores that quickly became commercial, many Soviet buildings and premises were also redesigned for groceries, and how many stalls and trailers have appeared! With a huge number of intermediaries, stores were full of assortment, and the invisible hand of the market kept prices across the country at the same level, competition bore fruit, now I will explain how it worked and how we came to the dictatorship of networks and monopolies.
    Previously, large producers of secondary line products and agricultural products traded through large regional retailers, of which in one region there could be from one monopolist to 3-4, depending on the wealth of the region and the solvency of the people. The main sales of secondary products went through these large players in each region. Agricultural producers sold their products quite well through other players - markets and large food bases that flourished at the former bases of the USSR GOSSNAB or real bases. Due to the huge assortment, goods of the third stage were promoted to store shelves through regional traders, or a sales department was formed at a large local confectionery factory, which worked closely with a regional trader in logistics and promoted with its margin and due to its warehouse and transshipment capacity, delivery, goods to stores directly - NOT through the trader's sales representatives. With each store and the so-called "network" (then several stores in different districts of the city of one owner were called chains, not necessarily with a single design and brand, as it is now). Regional and rural SELPO generally received goods exclusively from a regional wholesaler trader, private shops in the village were purchased by the owner directly - stupidly by a real trip of the owner to a local or city BASE. For the assortment, villagers also stopped by at the base of a local regional trader by self-pickup.
    Essential goods - bread, milk - generally worked directly with each store, forced to create huge logistics on the basis of a bakery or a dairy industry.
    Under such a system, product manufacturers could not unite for a cartel agreement on price - alternatives of distribution channels interfered, the impossibility of collusion of all regional traders was also obvious, and the supply of imported products, which, with the collusion of producers, say, conservation, could simply be squeezed out at the price of a domestic manufacturer, also interfered. from the shelves - with each individual entrepreneur of each store - it is not realistic to negotiate. Thus, despite some pressure from large producers on regional traders to fulfill the volumes and price plans, it was still unrealistic to DECIDE the price.
    A long comment, probably if you are interested, I will present this story and the scheme of monopolization of the grocery market at the end of the XNUMXs in a separate article. In the end, I’ll say briefly - now there are no local players - only federal large retailers-monsters, who through their networks simply dictate the price on the shelf from the ceiling (not justified by anything other than the chain’s wishes) to the end buyer - and the manufacturer of this product. The unheard-of monopoly scheme leads to an unreasonable price for us, and a decrease in the quality of products by manufacturers, since monopolies are constantly reducing their margins by openly extorting retro bonuses for the sale of goods. It is unrealistic to bypass them and sell the goods - access to the shelf is now only through the networks.
    1. the finish
      the finish 8 January 2022 21: 13
      +2
      The retro bonus can be bypassed if you offer an exclusive product and the network is interested in seeing it in the matrix. And with the development of Ali, WB, Ozon, their own online networks themselves, many manufacturers wanted to spit on the shelf and on the dictates of networks, although there is also no sugar there.
      1. lubesky
        lubesky 8 January 2022 22: 25
        +2
        Quote: finish
        The retro bonus can be bypassed if you offer an exclusive product and the network is interested in seeing it in the matrix. And with the development of Ali, WB, Ozon, their own online networks themselves, many manufacturers wanted to spit on the shelf and on the dictates of networks, although there is also no sugar there.

        Yes, the future belongs to online sales, home delivery. But even though it is developing now, it is still a distant future. So far, without going to the shelf, there can be no talk of serious production, unfortunately.
        1. kalibr
          9 January 2022 14: 03
          +1
          Quote: lubesky
          Yes, the future belongs to online sales, home delivery. But even though it is developing now, it is still a distant future.

          I had an article about this on Pravda. RU. We need receiving ports on buildings - that's the problem.
  16. depressant
    depressant 8 January 2022 20: 25
    +5
    In fact, the rise in food prices is a worldwide trend within the phenomenon that, as I pointed out in the comment above, is called the "war of the elites." And Russia is harnessed to it, but could not do it. Taking into account the harvest year and the amount of arable land. But this is a trend. An idea, so to speak.
    If in the US food inflation last year was about 6%, it seemed to the Americans a disaster. What do we have?
    ... more than a third of Russians spend money only on food (according to the December survey by Infom, 27% of Russians have enough money only for food, and another 9% cannot even afford adequate nutrition). It is these people who are especially closely watching prices and it is food inflation that is important for them, and food prices usually grow faster than the average inflation rate. At the same time, Rosstat believes that food products should account for about 36% of the average monthly expenses of a Russian (another 10% falls on housing and utilities services, 4% on medicines). Hence the dissatisfaction with the estimates of Rosstat among the poorest Russians, who, of course, could not help but notice that food inflation is breaking records this year and has reached the indicators of 2014-2015, when food prices rose by 14-15% per year due to sanctions.


    In my opinion, Rosstat is delusional.
  17. Nikolay1987
    Nikolay1987 8 January 2022 20: 25
    +3
    All efforts of merchandisers are useless against a man with a shopping list (c) Folk wisdom))
  18. Van 16
    Van 16 8 January 2022 20: 27
    +4
    Oh yes, Vyacheslav Olegovich - with an almost anniversary publication!
    1. kalibr
      8 January 2022 21: 46
      +2
      Thanks! Life makes you!
      1. Andrey VOV
        Andrey VOV 8 January 2022 21: 59
        +2
        Well, yes, you need a pretty penny on concrete paths,
  19. viktortarianik
    viktortarianik 8 January 2022 20: 43
    +2
    I sent it to my sister, let him study it. And it is well written, easy to read.
  20. Dkuznecov
    Dkuznecov 8 January 2022 20: 50
    +4
    I'll add a little too.

    1. Promotions. The manufacturer with the network negotiates a reduction in the selling price,
    often below cost. Clearly stipulating the scope and timing of the action.
    The layout is also negotiated - on more expensive (yes, you have to pay for this) medium shelves.
    Sometimes the purchase of competing goods from another brand is slowed down.

    The goal is to increase the "recognition" of the new brand or to "refresh" the memory during the rebranding.
    The quality is also being pulled up, according to the upper bar of the TU.
    Then the chief technologist will adjust, do not worry.
    The term of the action is always considerable, so that people get used to prices and goods.
    This is followed by a gradual increase in the selling price and shift along the shelves.
    according to the product category.

    2. Each store in the chain orders products individually,
    depending on local demand.
    Or if there is a collusion with another manufacturer,
    blocking the display of a competitor's goods for money.
    Therefore, often in different stores of the same network
    no specific item at all.

    3. The orders of the networks go electronically, in the terms of the contract it is indicated
    severe fines due to non-fulfillment of at least one order (one order - one store).
    Therefore, in my lifetime it happened that the manufacturer bought the goods
    in retail and sent again, so as not to fall under the sanctions.

    4. Networks are the monsters of the market. Where do they go
    private shops go broke. They are squeezed out by dumping.
    It's sad of course.
    1. Andrey VOV
      Andrey VOV 8 January 2022 22: 01
      +1
      And in our city, of course, there are five magnets, but three step-by-step as they were and remained, I will, and the profit fell slightly according to the owner, but it is he who always has what these monsters do not have, plus half of the assortment local producers and knowing the traffic, implementation, demand, almost always everything is fresh, but rather this is due to the fact that the town is small, conservative
      1. Dkuznecov
        Dkuznecov 8 January 2022 22: 26
        +1
        Absorption is inevitable.
        I have a big city, well-to-do people.
        In the courtyard of Auchan (50 m)
        and CROSSROADS (100 m),
        a stone's throw to the GLOBE.

        The assortment I have worked out, does not change.
        He is conservative in terms of the set of positions.

        I'm not talking about Magnets and Pyaterochka,
        mini mostly,
        at every step, I don't go there.

        On the other hand, in the same Germany (a suburb of Cologne)
        shopping - on Saturday out of town, in the malls.
        I will not speak for the whole of Germany, of course.
        There are plenty of shops in Cologne itself.


        Two private shops "perished" in the courtyard.
        We didn’t keep up with the competition on prices.
  21. Maks1995
    Maks1995 8 January 2022 20: 51
    +2
    Ha! The last time there was a wave - you have to buy less, not go to stores, take pasta, they will be enough for everyone for a month instead of meat - it was about 4 years ago. Before the "unprecedented growth of wages and incomes" in a dock-like country ...

    There were similar articles ...

    And here again.

    PS. Nobody is proposing to prohibit poisoning in the composition of products (as then) ...
  22. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 8 January 2022 21: 00
    +6
    First of all, one must be able to evaluate the unknown or little-known, according to known criteria. Retailers, as a rule, are less likely to bother with the price increase for certain categories, they do it in general. Based on this, it is possible, knowing the approximate prices for some products, to estimate the general degree of cunning of a local store. Often, retailers attract people by making big discounts on a particular product - and scattering this difference on related products. This allows you to buy something suitable cheaper than the "market average". It should always be remembered that any product has a certain value, outside of which the product is conventionally a category higher and a category lower. You need to understand this line and take exactly what is best correlated in terms of the combination of price and quality with your requirements, or at least that product, the properties of which correlate with the properties of a better price category rather than a worse one. Now on sale there are a lot of products of a completely "lethal" composition - it is better not to take it in principle. Omar Khayam also said "it's better to starve than to eat anything."
    1. the finish
      the finish 8 January 2022 21: 18
      +2
      As soon as I meet in the composition, among other things, mechanically deboned chicken meat is immediately returned to the shelf.
      1. Dkuznecov
        Dkuznecov 8 January 2022 22: 33
        +1
        Was on a Dutch processing line
        in MOSSELPROM.
        The only thing that is by hand is live chickens on hooks,
        and let's go - electroshock (who is lucky and who is not), steam,
        mechanical feather removal, breast douching with soy solution,
        etc. Sorting is of course by-products by type.
        At the end, trays come out - thighs, heads, liver,
        heart and so on - everything is separate.
        Weighing, barcode and cooling chamber.
        1. Andrey VOV
          Andrey VOV 8 January 2022 22: 38
          +1
          And we ourselves caught the chicken, with an ax, a zipper, glass, into boiling water, plucked, burned, powders separately, I put the carcass in the freezer))
          1. Dkuznecov
            Dkuznecov 8 January 2022 22: 44
            +5
            The subordinate raised chickens on the farm. Laying hens.
            I asked him to shortcut complete cost of an egg,
            hushed up the question. As I understand it, it's not cheaper than the store ones.
            Yes, and I stopped going on vacation for the third year at sea - there is no one to leave with
            economy. All the same, a few pieces were transferred either by a weasel,
            or some other animal, but some kind of bird stole a couple of pieces.
            I bought a rougeau. I was hoping for a cat - I already started a third. Disappear.
            Maybe the fox works ...
            1. Andrey VOV
              Andrey VOV 8 January 2022 22: 48
              +3
              Your own is more expensive, especially if there are no free food, but the taste is hundreds of times tastier
            2. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 8 January 2022 22: 55
              0
              Quote: DKuznecov
              As I understand it, it's not cheaper than the store ones.

              No, a bit cheaper, unless of course you breed the hens yourself. and if you buy, then with such prices for feed, the game is not worth the candle.
              What are they fed in factories? request
              1. Dkuznecov
                Dkuznecov 8 January 2022 22: 58
                0
                I know that the hatching egg was purchased from Hungary. The program even included a virtual warehouse "driver's eggs".
              2. Dkuznecov
                Dkuznecov 8 January 2022 23: 02
                +1
                I think a lot of meat and bone meal,
                her there in bulk. Brood sorting and revision within 21 days of incubation. everything is in microns.
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 8 January 2022 23: 07
                  +1
                  Quote: DKuznecov
                  I think a lot of meat and bone meal,
                  her there in bulk.

                  Come on? belay Have you seen the price of MKM? No, definitely not. Their male chickens go for minced meat, but this is a small fraction. Correctly selected compound feed composition. But it's still expensive. Although grain is taken in large bulk, it is cheaper.
                  We have meat and egg chickens, mongrels. I change roosters regularly. It seems like nothing like that.
                  1. Dkuznecov
                    Dkuznecov 8 January 2022 23: 08
                    +1
                    I'm talking about my own micron poultry farm
                    1. Ingvar 72
                      Ingvar 72 8 January 2022 23: 12
                      -1
                      Quote: DKuznecov
                      I'm talking about my own micron poultry farm

                      MKM is purchased at the Togliatti poultry farm. Worn out layers and male chickens for minced meat. They feed the bird. At least that's what they told me.
  23. Flashpoint
    Flashpoint 8 January 2022 22: 57
    +4
    It turns out that I have been at war with stores for a long time! laughing
    In general, for me purchases are special. operation always.
    I am aware of the prices of all goods and their dynamics for all the years of my conscious life.
    Near the house hyper, on Sunday discounts - 10%. In summer and autumn - market and fairs.
    All shops around are also aware of discounts and where is what is cheaper. I take many of my favorite products for future use at a good price. It’s a pity that a discounter not far from my house recently opened up, I liked to go there a couple of three times a year to take a lot of things: olives / olives, cereals, canned food, sauces, butter / olive oil, and so on. Reoriented to a couple of other points.
    In the markets - tea and many goods are much cheaper. Alcohol - there are also wholesalers (I'm not a fan of alcohol, but I drink it carefully - wine and beer). By the way, I have known many sellers on the market for a long time - they make good discounts.
    So I also plan trips taking into account purchases - the logistics have been delivered, and there are bins of the Motherland at home - a pantry. I'm definitely not going to die of hunger! yes
    By the way, it’s me who buy mostly, not my wife. And more often she used to nag me for bringing home "mammoth ass" (a bunch of bags with groceries). Now I’m resigned! bully
    Well, by the way, the prices are getting worse with this case, I save as much as I can. But it seems like enough for a varied diet. Again, a little daughter - a lot of expenses are spent on baby products.
    1. No name B
      No name B 9 January 2022 00: 56
      +4
      On the contrary, my wife makes purchases, I see it gives her great pleasure, "shopping" in the shops. When it comes from the store, it already buzzes with indignation from the prices in them. When I am at home, I bring some goods mainly from Poland, there it is 1,5 times cheaper than in Ukraine, sunflower oil 1l 1 € throughout Europe + - 10 cents, in Ukraine 2 €.
      By the way, the stores of the all-European network Lidl do not differ in fenshui on the shelves, everything is scattered, in the Polish Bedronka there is the same chaos.
      1. Liam
        Liam 9 January 2022 10: 59
        +2
        Quote: No name B
        By the way, the stores of the European network Lidl

        These are not supermarkets, this is a discount
  24. ee2100
    ee2100 9 January 2022 09: 21
    +1
    And in fact, if we remove the word "war" from the title, then the article will do quite well for such a subject as home economics, which is not justly forgotten.
    The people, read the buyer, never fought with the trading empire. These are all Shpakovsky's fantasies. Trade is like tax, the Ministry of Emergency Situations, etc. The buyer is not an adversary, he is previously regarded as cannon fodder or consumable. Trade dictates its own terms and the buyer has no choice, from the word at all.
    There is a lot to say on this topic, but the main war is invisible for the buyer. This is the occupation of the country's territory by trade networks. First of all, independent stores are killed. They are unable to compete with networks. And in the end the buyer suffers. In a private store, the goods can be bought. more expensive, but really better. There are no federal retail chains in Crimea and this is a boon for residents and vacationers on the peninsula. The goods are of much better quality.
    And one more misconception promoted by the author. Products under the brand name of the trading network are goods of rather low quality. The network itself does not produce them, but places an order somewhere on the side, but with a certain condition. The company produces goods under the brand of the network at a strictly fixed price, much lower than that of competitors and, naturally, at the expense of quality. Nobody canceled the profit margin yet.
    Trading networks, seizing the territory of the country and feeding the people low-quality products, thereby undermine the health of the nation. This is an undeclared war against one's own people.
  25. Klingon
    Klingon 9 January 2022 09: 54
    +1
    This is the case everywhere, not only in Russia. In Germany, you have to choose between stores, there are expensive and there are discounts where it is a little cheaper. It is annoying to constantly rearrange the goods, while you are looking for what you need, you will collect a bunch of unnecessary crap. By the way, according to statistics, those who make lists of products end up spending more money because they always buy something above the list such as postscript wassat
  26. Sfurei
    Sfurei 9 January 2022 20: 33
    +3
    Author. You are 15-20 years late with your article. When there was a colossal growth of super and hypermarkets in the Russian Federation. Well, or if you come from the provinces and see a large store.
    Almost the entire article is made up of trivial things: a list of products, their layout on the shelves, don't go hungry, don't be fooled by advertisements, etc.
    Well, absolutely stupid about the fact that the quality of the goods drops after 2-3 weeks of production. Yes, earlier this was often practiced by manufacturers, but now it is not practiced due to high competition, because the majority of manufacturers are large and stick to their brands, while buyers are very spoiled and will immediately switch not only to another product, but also to another brand.
    It would be better if they wrote
    - that you need to order groceries online, so it comes out cheaper and the products in delivery are usually better than on the shelves of the same stores (we also bring larger apples and the shelf life is higher than on the shelves, etc.). And cheaper because you can evaluate purchases five times by price and volume, which in a store is not very convenient to do by crawling on the shelves;
    - that a convenience store is usually more expensive than a hypermarket and you pay more in small stores;
    - etc. etc.
    Well, I also consider it a complete nonsense to prioritize purchases in the markets, even in the regions. At the moment, the market in Russia is 95% just a different store format. If out of 100 sellers 2-3 are farmers selling their products, then you are lucky to find them.
    When we visit with our parents in villages and regional centers in different regions (Siberia and the central Black Earth region), our parents, for example, recommend us meat or something else to take from farmers. But this family of farmers has been at the market all week. So the question is, when do they work on the farm? Just pay attention to the assortment: pears, apples, cabbage, oranges, kiwi, melons, etc. What kind of farm do they have? Even in your photo of the market in the Czech Republic, you can see boxes of products (from under bananas or oranges) grown not in the Czech Republic and bought by "farmers" at wholesale depots !!
    Maybe it's just that the author has been living in the Czech Republic for a long time and has not seen for a long time what kind of life in Russia is? In many respects, our trade is even better than in the EU (you still have to look for such a large assortment of online delivery of products abroad).
    1. CHEREDA73
      CHEREDA73 10 January 2022 00: 01
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      Hello, Vyacheslav Olegovich.
      I understand that you decided to have some fun by writing this article wink
      And what, this is not for a narrow circle of gourmets.
      The relationship with the shops concerns everyone, so everyone here is a connoisseur.
      I personally find all these store-bought gimmicks naive. And even if I buy more than necessary, then the next visit to the store will be later. So, they won’t gain anything ...
  27. Eroma
    Eroma 11 January 2022 10: 35
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    Did not read negative
    A person makes money for what? In order to saturate your life with amenities, the store is the place where you can exchange the result of your labor for something necessary and pleasant!
    An article as helpful tips for a more efficient exchange would be fine, but presenting a trip to the store as a raid on enemy territory is nonsense! fool
  28. tacet
    tacet 14 January 2022 13: 21
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    The cost of goods on the market is 25% higher on average relative to large retail chains (in Nizhny Novgorod), according to personal observations.