Experts react to Biden's words about the inadmissibility of unleashing a nuclear war

December 31 2021 64

On the night of December 30-31, a telephone conversation took place between Vladimir Putin and Joe Biden. The conversation lasted about 50 minutes and did not have a public part. Thus, its results can only be judged by the statements made later by the official representatives of the parties.

Aide to the President of the Russian Federation Yuri Ushakov said that the American leader has repeatedly emphasized the inadmissibility of unleashing a nuclear war, the newspaper reports. Interfax... In addition, according to the Russian functionary, Joe Biden assured Vladimir Putin that the United States did not intend to deploy an offensive nuclear weapon in Ukraine.

In turn, the White House described the conversation between the two presidents as meaningful. A representative of the Washington administration during a special briefing said that it is dialogue that is the best way to resolve the current geopolitical situation.

At the same time, White House spokeswoman Jen Psaki noted that the American leader had warned his Russian counterpart about a decisive response from the United States and its allies in the event of an invasion of Ukraine.

Regarding the expansion of NATO in the eastern direction (we are talking about joining the Alliance of Ukraine, Moldova and Georgia), Washington stressed that this decision should be made directly by independent states, and not by a third party deciding for them. Thus, the United States apparently "hinted" that they do not intend to unquestioningly implement the measures proposed by the Russian President to ensure strategic security.

Experts, reacting to Biden's statements about the inadmissibility of nuclear war, note that the United States becomes more accommodating only at the moment when it realizes the real existential threat. In this case, the White House begins to remember that the United States and Russia are responsible for world stability and security and are ready to sit down at the negotiating table. But as soon as the understanding of the threat evaporates, they return to their usual practice: "We are the world hegemon, so you must do what we say."

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Serge-667

+17

31 December 2021 15: 59

Thus, the United States apparently "hinted" that they do not intend to unquestioningly implement the measures proposed by the President of Russia to ensure strategic security

Actually, which is to be expected ...
1. The leader of the Redskins
  
  -27
  
  31 December 2021 16: 06
  
  And the other should not have been expected ...
  I think so, Vladimir Vladimirovich wrote a letter to Santa Claus, but mixed up the envelopes ...
  And the Can is not Santa Claus.
  1. Nyrobsky
    
    +19
    
    31 December 2021 16: 41
    
    Quote: Serge-667
    Thus, the United States apparently "hinted" that they do not intend to unquestioningly implement the measures proposed by the President of Russia to ensure strategic security
    
    Actually, which is to be expected ...
    
    Quote: Leader of the Redskins
    And the other should not have been expected ...
    I think so, Vladimir Vladimirovich wrote a letter to Santa Claus, but mixed up the envelopes ...
    And the Can is not Santa Claus.
    
    What is it, Nazarius, your expectations are fast. It is naive to expect that a can with GDP like this, cracking eye to eye, will settle all the contradictions. All the main graters will be held from January 9 to 13, with trades, arguments, threats and smiles, and only after that it will be clear where they came, who caved in, and who was on horseback.
    Chickens are pinched in the fall. We will wait.
    1. Serge-667
      
      +1
      
      31 December 2021 20: 00
      
      All major events will be held from January 9 to 13, with trades, arguments, threats and smiles.
      
      Am I missing something on the news?
      1. Nyrobsky
        
        +3
        
        31 December 2021 20: 58
        
        Quote: Serge-667
        All major events will be held from January 9 to 13, with trades, arguments, threats and smiles.
        
        Am I missing something on the news?
        
        Obviously yes. From 9 to 12, conversations with those involved, including NATO, and on the 13th in the OSCE, apparently with the final version. In my opinion, yesterday this infa was on VO.
        
        Vladimir Mashkov
        
        0
        
        2 January 2022 15: 21
        
        There is nothing surprising in the news! Americans always urge everyone and demand from everyone to abide by laws and rules, which they themselves easily violate when necessary!
    2. The leader of the Redskins
      
      -5
      
      31 December 2021 20: 11
      
      Consider me a pessimist, but the obvious is obvious.
      Here you say auction...
      What Putin can offer in return for his requests ? (It's hard to call this a requirement.
      1. Nyrobsky
        
        +9
        
        31 December 2021 21: 10
        
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        Consider me a pessimist ...
        
        A pessimist is a well-informed optimist. I don’t think that you have all the information about the ongoing negotiations, and therefore you have no grounds for pessimism.
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        Here you say bidding ...
        What can Putin offer in return for his requests? (It's hard to call this a requirement.
        HM. If you really bothered to read the full text of the requirements of Russia, then you probably noticed that they (for adoption in the full set of requirements) are a priori unacceptable. It turns out that Russia knew in advance that they would not be accepted and that there would be "bargaining" on certain points. In principle, this is a normal practice, initially to make excessive demands, so that in the course of the bidding, "give up" some part and leave those that are really important. The opposing side, having received the "planned concessions", will regard this as a victory for its diplomacy, while the other side prepared in advance to throw off this butor, that's all.
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        but the obvious is obvious
        
        That's just not obvious. Rather obviously incredible. You just have to wait, not tug at the chamomile - "I believe, I do not believe, obviously - not obvious"
        
        The leader of the Redskins
        
        -6
        
        31 December 2021 21: 48
        
        HM. I remember a half-joke about Stalin, when during a telephone conversation he constantly said “no” and only at the end “yes”. Moreover, consent is the answer to the question of whether he hears well what Churchill is talking about)))
        So called auction these are already inventions of our political scientists / propagandists. Now any dialogue, conversation, ambiguously thrown phrase will be presented as auctionlike the victory of our galley rower)
        Holiday greetings.
        
        Nyrobsky
        
        +4
        
        31 December 2021 22: 32
        
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        HM. I remember a half-joke about Stalin, when during a telephone conversation he constantly said “no” and only at the end “yes”. Moreover, consent is the answer to the question of whether he hears well what Churchill is talking about)))
        So called auction these are already inventions of our political scientists / propagandists. Now any dialogue, conversation, ambiguously thrown phrase will be presented as auctionlike the victory of our galley rower)
        
        HM. ))) Well, if this is the invention of our political scientists, then the question arises, why did the American side fit into the negotiations at all, if it could initially say we are "unshakable" and refuse to negotiate by using paper with requirements for kindling a fireplace? But no, they say, we go to you, we will discuss.
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        Holiday greetings.
        And you with the coming! God willing, in a good scenario, humanity will be able to meet 2023!
        
        The leader of the Redskins
        
        -5
        
        1 January 2022 00: 21
        
        So Biden, if I am not mistaken, even before the "ultimatum" said that he did not recognize any red lines.
        IMHO - for future failures (on the political front) it will be possible to declare - we have done everything we can! And even more! But this they bad!
        
        Nyrobsky
        
        +5
        
        1 January 2022 01: 40
        
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        So Biden, if I am not mistaken, even before the "ultimatum" said that he did not recognize any red lines.
        
        00.21 and you are in the ranks! Commendable! Tellingly, you really are not mistaken! The can said that he was against the lines. But that is, and you should not take this to heart, because a month and a half ago, the same Can, at the summit on limiting harmful emissions, spoke about the fact that he was for the cleanliness of the environment, but at the same time, with the dexterity of an illusionist, he loudly spoiled the air in the presence of two royals, to whom the ammonia tampons, after communicating with the Bidon, seemed like perfume from Chanel. Brechet.
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        IMHO - for future failures (on the political front) it will be possible to declare - we have done everything we can! And even more! But they are bad!
        
        This is not "IMHO", this is practice and it all depends on who has the most trump cards and who will bridle the first horse.
        
        your1970
        
        0
        
        2 January 2022 14: 31
        
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        The so-called bargaining is already an invention of our political scientists / propagandists. Now any dialogue, conversation, ambiguously thrown phrase will be presented as a bargaining, as the victory of our rower in the galleys)
        Holiday greetings.
        
        1983 the year of publishing
        Just read Chakovsky's "Victory" about the Potsdam conference ... HOW Stalin bargained ... What kind of loops he laid around Churchill in order to pull out at least something for the country ...
        Diplomacy is always trade, whoever bargains better wins ...
  2. Andrei Nikolaevich
    
    -2
    
    1 January 2022 01: 48
    
    Or maybe the GDP will launch Santa Claus on the rocket that flies for months?)
  3. VORON538
    
    +1
    
    2 January 2022 08: 52
    
    Yes, Bidon, as you called him, is not Santa Claus, and Putin is not Santa Claus. So Ukraine, which has behaved badly for the past few decades, cannot count on gifts :)))
2. ... TARS.
  
  -28
  
  31 December 2021 16: 06
  
  Well, if Putin himself asked for this call, then without any experts it was clear that the United States was not led.
  1. sleeve
    
    +4
    
    31 December 2021 18: 21
    
    Putin asked? Where did you read this? It will be interesting to make sure)
    1. expert
      
      +6
      
      31 December 2021 19: 37
      
      RIA Novosti, literally: "Dmitry Peskov, the negotiations were initiated by the Russian side. According to him, this is an ordinary telephone conversation without a public part."
      1. sleeve
        
        0
        
        31 December 2021 20: 45
        
        Understood. I'll read it.
3. Split
  
  -10
  
  31 December 2021 16: 09
  
  Yes, their conscience does not allow. Avgan was fooled louder than us
  1. Split
    
    -3
    
    1 January 2022 02: 58
    
    Dislikes surprise ... apparently from those who cannot sarcastically
    1. Vladimir Mashkov
      
      0
      
      2 January 2022 14: 03
      
      Quote: Split
      Dislikes surprise ... apparently from those who cannot sarcastically
      
      Dislikes, I suppose, you are given for "Avgan profofukali louder than us." Probably, you are too young and simply do not know that the USSR "did not" profuse the Afghan company ", but worthily came out in slender columns with unfolded banners, leaving the pro-Soviet government in Afghanistan and Afghans still respect the shuravi.
      1. Split
        
        -2
        
        2 January 2022 14: 20
        
        I'm talking about goals! The Afghan government also allowed, which we established ... the introduction of Nata troops, which eventually withdrew and right now there is the Taliban! And what's the point ... well, we got out .... Who else came out of Afghanistan with dignity? As there was a war for hundreds of years, it continues!
        My father fought there for 4 years! You know ... when you ask where is dad at 6 years old? Who has never seen ... he must return soon ...
        
        Vladimir Mashkov
        
        0
        
        2 January 2022 15: 07
        
        Quote: Split
        I'm talking about goals! The Afghan government also allowed, which we established ... the introduction of Nata troops, which eventually withdrew and right now there is the Taliban! And what's the point ... well, we got out .... Who else came out of Afghanistan with dignity?
        
        You are surprised by the well-deserved dislikes that are given to you for an incorrect assessment, and I am surprised by the fact that you slapped me a dislike for a correct and benevolent comment.
        
        And what you do NOT understand is that worthy except for the USSR from afghanistan none Did NOT come out.
        
        And it also surprises me that you are turning to a complete stranger, and even older than you, by 30 people on "you". This speaks volumes.
4. rocket757
  
  +1
  
  31 December 2021 16: 15
  
  Regular negotiations and even bargaining, specific guys like that! For the sake of bargaining, they whipped up all the dregs, so that there was something to bargain about and refuse, without regrets ...
  This is only an object of that turbidity, one may think that it was for him it was done ... naive or stupid, no difference.
5. Paranoid50
  
  +4
  
  31 December 2021 16: 23
  
  Quote: Serge-667
  which is to be expected ...
  
  Yes, ok, that's why we got confused. Once again, it will not hurt to be convinced of the stubbornness of the counterpart - a kind of monitoring of intentions.
6. Thrifty
  
  +8
  
  31 December 2021 16: 50
  
  It is a pity that we do not have military bases in Mexico, we would have promised not to deploy thermonuclear and neural weapons there ...
  1. poquello
    
    +1
    
    31 December 2021 18: 47
    
    Quote: Thrifty
    would promise not to place thermonuclear and neural weapons there ...
    
    do we have neutron? it's kind of nafig not needed
Flooding

+8

31 December 2021 16: 04

Regarding the expansion of NATO in the eastern direction (we are talking about joining the Alliance of Ukraine, Moldova and Georgia), Washington stressed that this decision should be made directly by independent states, and not by a third party deciding for them.

Nonsense, of course.
Directly independent states, or rather their authorities, can only express their wishes.
But the decision on admission or non-admission to the club is definitely not made by them.
Split

+5

31 December 2021 16: 06

Well, now I can live for at least a month almost without expecting a nuclear strike.
1. ... TARS.
  
  -7
  
  31 December 2021 16: 14
  
  And in the event of a nuclear strike by Russia against the United States, no response will come to you, did I understand correctly?
  1. tatarin1972
    
    +4
    
    31 December 2021 17: 19
    
    And although we do not regret Washington much, Europe has it ahead. Maybe we offended someone in vain, dropping a couple of extra mega tons, and now there is a merry crumbling ground where the Pentagon once stood.
  2. VORON538
    
    +2
    
    2 January 2022 08: 57
    
    Believe me, this will not bother you, you will be in line for the "Last Judgment".
    1. korabelnikoffevgeny
      
      -4
      
      2 January 2022 11: 37
      
      Putin promised them immediately to Paradise
      1. VORON538
        
        0
        
        2 January 2022 12: 04
        
        Representatives of bot farms with independent, by definition, in AD. Do you get paid more on holidays, do you breed every day? No heaven for you!
2. Paranoid50
  
  +6
  
  31 December 2021 16: 27
  
  Quote: Split
  I can live a month almost without expecting a nuclear strike
  
  In this context, it is logical to tell Grandfather Frost the following rhyme:
  Let's summarize guys:
  A year has passed, dreams have come true
  Don't die - it's already nice
  Don't kill - hurt yourself!
  
  P.S. And such layouts always happen unexpectedly - no matter how you prepare.
rocket757

0

31 December 2021 16: 12

In turn, the White House described the conversation between the two presidents as meaningful
... Big, important uncles say ... they will probably agree on many things.
What's going on around ??? Among those who, to a conversation, are not invited and among those who cannot even be there?
And different things happen, someone is chatting, also different and incessantly, someone is tensely silent ... and to the rest, that's just his spirit and shares, with those who are still ready to endure it at least somehow.
Ramon Mercader

+5

31 December 2021 16: 21

The most reliable way to judge the past negotiations is the coffee grounds. We must wait for the results - they will say everything for themselves.
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1. Nyrobsky
  
  +7
  
  31 December 2021 16: 46
  
  Quote: . TARS.
  Maybe I don’t understand why they minus me?
  
  And if logic is included? If the United States had not been led, then there would have been no meetings and discussions, and since they got involved in this process, they understand what they can soon get in their playful little hands, but do not yet understand what - with a hammer or a fly swatter.
  1. ROSS_51
    
    -2
    
    1 January 2022 05: 01
    
    Quote: Nyrobsky
    
    And if logic is included? If the United States had not been led, then there would have been no meetings and discussions, and since they got involved in this process, they understand what they can soon get in their playful little hands, but do not yet understand what - with a hammer or a fly swatter.
    
    Who can they get from? From Russia? Do not be ridiculous .. America joined in with only one purpose - to get something for free, through negotiations. They will try on promises to break the alliance between Russia and China, prohibiting types of weapons that they do not have, etc. They will not give up anything just because they can.
2. Okolotochny
  
  +2
  
  31 December 2021 19: 48
  
  Between Asked (according to you) and Initiated - these are two big differences. Your idols - Western countries - can ask the USA (on your knees).
Vladimir M

+14

31 December 2021 16: 33

In general, the conditions put forward by the Russian Federation for the United States, by definition, are not feasible. Such a suspicion that such conditions were specially put forward ...
1. HAM
  
  +6
  
  31 December 2021 16: 50
  
  You are right, but .... putting forward obviously impossible conditions, they actually achieve their true goal .... (the true goal is known while only to Putin) ....... and after all, the Americans always do this ... I don’t know what psychologists call this technique ...
  1. Vladimir M
    
    +4
    
    31 December 2021 17: 20
    
    This is the whole point - the United States cannot accept these conditions, in response they are not rude, they are going to consider .... or the United States is not the same ... is the Russian Federation seriously going to butt with the hegemon and the "world order"
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      1. Vladimir M
        
        +3
        
        31 December 2021 18: 57
        
        I would not be so categorical
    2. SerAp
      
      +4
      
      31 December 2021 19: 39
      
      And what has to do with butting with the hegemon? This is a pretext for the invasion of (c) Ukraine. They say we tried to come to an agreement, but it didn't happen. Hence, the conditions that are impossible to fulfill in advance. In general, there is simply no other solution to the question of Ukraine other than a military one. Everyone understands this.
2. Kisa
  
  +2
  
  31 December 2021 19: 33
  
  Quote: Vladimir M
  The words put forward by the Russian Federation for the United States are, by definition, not feasible
  
  and what is the point,? that they will decide on January 10th.
  What is the fundamental difference between the deployment of nuclear weapons in the Baltics and 100-200 km away from them in Ukraine?
  It's not realistic now to push nuclear weapons back to the time of the Caribbean crisis to Turkey ..
  would be a trump card in the sleeve Guatemala Ecuador Vensuella Cuba ... but we don't have them
  1. SerAp
    
    +3
    
    31 December 2021 19: 48
    
    We are not talking about nuclear weapons. It's about zones of influence.
your vsr 66-67

+1

31 December 2021 16: 40

World hegemon tail between his legs
1. ... TARS.
  
  -8
  
  31 December 2021 16: 47
  
  From what did you draw such conclusions?
2. Kushka
  
  -5
  
  31 December 2021 16: 56
  
  It seems that such a position -
  tail tucked in - helps
  he successfully worked as much as 1945.
  If then he had the floor of Berlin, then today
  reached Tallinn and "drops" rockets at the very
  dachas of St. Petersburg residents. If then I could not reach
  even to Lviv, today it is building a naval base in
  Berdyansk. Well, to the Caucasus, to Georgia, the same
  apparently it was more convenient with a tucked tail
  climb.
tralflot1832

+4

31 December 2021 17: 23

38,53 sowing latitude and 77,02 w. The frying pan begins to burn ..
1. Brturin
  
  +3
  
  31 December 2021 17: 49
  
  It burns up not only in Washington DC or the District of Columbia ... everything is much wider there ...
  According to the data provided, from April to July, about a million Americans changed their place of residence. At the same time, according to statistics, there is an outflow of the population from the liberal "blue" states. Most of the citizens who decided to move chose the conservative "red" states in the south of the country for this. Twitter user @birb_k created a Census Bureau data visualization based on state party affiliation ... Internal migration clearly demonstrates the polarization of American society. Representatives of the opposing political forces have reached the extreme point of rejection of their opponents, which results in the emergence of "party" migration. Against this background, opinion polls look especially alarming, according to which more and more Americans support the idea of dividing the country into conservative and liberal States of America. https://riafan.ru/1576686-amerikancy-massovo-begut-na-yug-iz-sinikh-shtatov
  
  how serious all this is ... but then the confrontation between black and white, then red and blue ... somehow all this - "something is wrong in this kingdom"
Osipov9391

-8

31 December 2021 17: 42

The latter will lose little from the rupture of relations between Russia and the United States. And the West in general.
What do our airlines fly with? I think everyone knows ...
Draconian sanctions from the states will hit the most sensitive places for Russia, seriously weakening many areas in the state and the ruble exchange rate.
1. Victor Chernenko
  
  +1
  
  1 January 2022 11: 21
  
  How will Europe pay for gas?
2. VORON538
  
  0
  
  2 January 2022 09: 02
  
  Oh yo, what are we going to do ???
Lonely loner

+3

31 December 2021 18: 27

The Yankees will not accept this ultimatum (for this and the calculation), and even if they do, we will still do what we have in mind.
Knell wardenheart

-1

31 December 2021 19: 55

Experts, reacting to Biden's statements about the inadmissibility of nuclear war, note that the United States becomes more accommodating only at the moment when it realizes the real existential threat.

I don't see any connection. The strategic arsenal has practically not changed - both we and the United States have for the most part all the same nuclear weapons as before. Individual hypersonic weather patterns do not make it due to the already high ability of the ICBM to overcome a modern missile defense system. What existential threat are we talking about? The world has been walking under the nuclear sword of Damocles since the late 50s.
75 Sergey

0

31 December 2021 21: 55

Biden - Captain Evidence!
This does not untie, show tolerance and move away from our borders.
Alex Justice

0

1 January 2022 11: 56

Hitler demanded a corridor to Dansing. Poland refused, for which it paid.
fif21

0

1 January 2022 12: 21

It is not necessary to negotiate with mattress toppers, but to hammer them into the Stone Age. Yalta 2 is possible only if it is held by the Russian Federation, China, Cuba or the USA, EU, Turkey. You can't beat the Yankees with words.
1. El Chuvachino
  
  +1
  
  1 January 2022 21: 19
  
  Quote: fif21
  and hammer them into the stone age
  
  It will be mutual
sailor roman

0

2 January 2022 12: 04

An analysis of the current capabilities of the Pentagon by the US and Civil Society Think Tank, Loder Institute, University of Pennsylvania, conducted in 2021, showed that today America's actual capability has shrunk to 470 bayonets. This allows you to count on the simultaneous management of only two small conflicts and not too high intensity.
1536

0

2 January 2022 12: 30

It seems that the United States, apart from Russia, has no one to talk to about nuclear war, non-use of nuclear weapons and other "global things." Indeed, it is foolish to talk to the British, French, Chinese about not using nuclear weapons if the US invades Britain or France, just like China. The named countries will undoubtedly use nuclear weapons against the United States without even thinking about the consequences for all mankind, or, even more so, about the citizens of the United States. Your business, your own territory, your interests are much more valuable than the death of a million or two people. So the United States has chosen a "victim" that can first be threatened and then talked to from a position of strength. It's Russia. In Russia, people are gullible, we think about humanity, but we have forgotten our interests, as if they did not exist at all, so we get either sanctions, or some old man’s threat from the White House, or hysteria from German politicians who have not received much love or British clowns.