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SU-152 and their appearance in the battle of Kursk

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SU-152 and their appearance in the battle of Kursk

The German operation "Citadel" is one of the last operations of Hitlerite Germany, connected with an attempt to contain the counter-offensive of Soviet troops on the territory of the USSR. The Wehrmacht concentrated huge forces in the Kursk Bulge area, hoping that the defeat in the Battle of Stalingrad was "an annoying misunderstanding." In Germany itself, the authorities actually forbade to say that Paulus's army on the Volga surrendered, like the field marshal himself, who became the first German in this rank in stories, who decided to take such a step. Propaganda claimed that German troops fought almost to the last soldier.


The stake was made on an offensive operation in the Kursk Bulge area in the hope that the Soviet troops would still be broken. In Berlin, they believed that the strength of the German weapons... However, Soviet engineers were not going to silently look at how the German sphere of armored vehicles was improving. As a result, the SU-152 appeared in the Soviet troops.

And the battle of Kursk became the first baptism of fire for the SU-152 self-propelled artillery mounts. Of course, one cannot say that these self-propelled guns, which entered service in 1943, played a key role in the battles near Kursk, but the fact of the appearance of this 45-ton armored vehicle with powerful weapons cannot be underestimated either. The fact is that for the German troops the appearance of such equipment in the Red Army was largely a revelation.

About the Soviet self-propelled guns SU-152 is described in the materials of the TK "Zvezda" - in the program "Not a fact":

Photos used:
Wikipedia / Bundesarchiv, Bild 101I-154-1964-28 / Dreyer / CC-BY-SA 3.0
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  1. SaLaR
    SaLaR 29 December 2021 17: 00
    +8
    How did it happen good
  2. Snail N9
    Snail N9 29 December 2021 17: 06
    +15
    Pershavin has a series of books "St. John's Wort ...". He writes military fiction based on the stories of veterans, so what he describes in his books is close to real events. In his books about self-propelled guns, both the strengths and weaknesses of this armored vehicle, as well as the features of its use, are well described. I advise you to read it, it is quite interesting.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 29 December 2021 18: 00
      +11
      Quote: Snail N9
      Pershavin has a series of books "St. John's Wort ...".

      He writes well, I asked my father "So how?" , he said "Well, almost like mine."
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 29 December 2021 18: 52
        +5
        Yes, I agree. I especially like the fact that in his books he manages to convey precisely the life and attitudes of the military at that time, with all the nuances. Difficult relations must be said, because different people, different positions, different official positions, etc. Well, about technology only in terms of its operation and use without embellishment and humiliation, what was on that and fought. Unfortunately, it was the policy of the widespread exaltation of our technology and the ban on a sound analysis of what the Germans had, played a cruel joke. Until the very end of the war, many commanders did not understand the purpose of SPGs and how they should be used correctly, taking into account their characteristics.
        1. ivan2022
          ivan2022 1 January 2022 20: 56
          -4
          Quote: Snail N9
          Unfortunately, it was the policy of the widespread exaltation of our technology and the ban on a sound analysis of what the Germans had, played a cruel joke.

          Very interesting. But it is even more interesting to know your sources. For example, our tankers, until the end of the Second World War, did not know from what distance the "Tiger" penetrates the armor of the T-34? The point is that "sound analysis" occurs in the head, and no one tried to forbid thinking even in the Soviet army. Or were there official orders not to think? It is even more interesting to find out that the Germans had a policy of extolling Soviet technology, and not their own? Or maybe this is the way it should be - "sensibly extol" only the technique of the enemy? In my opinion, our historians and filmmakers have been doing just this for more than half a century .. But I don’t see what is "common" here .....
        2. ivan2022
          ivan2022 1 January 2022 21: 04
          -4
          Quote: Snail N9
          a ban on sound analysis of what the Germans had. Until the very end of the war, many commanders did not understand the purpose of SPGs and how they should be used correctly, taking into account their characteristics.

          And what, only the Germans had SPGs?
          But the "ban on sound analysis" is really cool!
          I didn’t know that the military even thought with the permission of their superiors, but they themselves couldn’t. However .. very, very likely .... for example, one of the commentators has already admitted that although our Army shot the Congress of the People. deputies in October 1993, but "they did not break the oath", since there was no special order from the authorities to carry it out ....
    2. billybones
      billybones 17 January 2022 16: 07
      0
      Pershanin V.N. Died 2020. Excellent military prose. Used stories of veterans. He also has a trilogy about a tankman. And about those who fought on the KV-2, on the SU-76.
  3. Dkuznecov
    Dkuznecov 29 December 2021 23: 59
    +5
    There seems to be an article, but in fact it is not.
    There is a link to bla-bla-bla, which is material for
    I don’t consider studying and analyzing. To speak is not to roll bags.
    The SU-152 gun is being examined by a Wehrmacht officer.
    One of the V soldiers has an SS "old soldier" patch.
    All I can say.
  4. riwas
    riwas 30 December 2021 06: 27
    +6
    My father fought in the T-34, but he said that the SU-152 was in great demand in urban battles.
  5. 75 Sergey
    75 Sergey 30 December 2021 08: 40
    +7
    Chukchi reader.
    I don't like movies.
  6. Engineer
    Engineer 30 December 2021 11: 00
    +4
    They began to be called St. John's wort in Soviet films and later literature even before Pershavin, and he simply picked up this banner. At the end of the war, the BS-3 anti-tank gun began to enter the troops, so it bore this proud name.
  7. Kostadinov
    Kostadinov 30 December 2021 11: 50
    +2
    Again (once again) a senseless comparison of tanks as an anti-tank weapon.
    Tanks with tanks do not fight except by mistake - the main principle in this war.
  8. ism_ek
    ism_ek 31 December 2021 09: 32
    +1
    As always, nothing is said about the most massive Soviet self-propelled gun SU-76 .... And they were released almost 10 times more than the SU-152 (ISU-152)
    1. Avarron
      Avarron 31 December 2021 15: 18
      +1
      Well, maybe because the plot is about the SU-152?
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 1 January 2022 18: 08
        -2
        The same Pershavin has books about the Su-76 self-propelled guns. Moreover, his book about the battles near Moscow even mentions such a tank as the T-60 and how they fought on it, and, what is most interesting, they fought quite successfully with the competent use of the advantages of this machine - low weight, size and maneuverability.
  9. decimalegio
    decimalegio 31 December 2021 21: 21
    +1
    Happy new year to all of you
  10. Archon
    Archon 31 December 2021 23: 47
    +5
    I ask you to introduce a rule for video: put all material in printed form under the video.
    Or, on the main page on the images, indicate what is in the video link, so as not to click on the link.
    It is convenient to watch the video only for a limited number of people who have the time and opportunity to watch the video.
  11. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 1 January 2022 22: 40
    +1
    152 mm is not optimal for firing ... ... we put something that could penetrate heavy tanks, there was no other. The other is Su100 and Su122. Especially 100 ka ... ..
  12. kig
    kig 8 January 2022 06: 15
    0
    As many as two SU-152 regiments with a total of 24 vehicles took part in the battle of Kursk - how could they have a significant impact?
  13. billybones
    billybones 17 January 2022 16: 13
    0
    There is an interesting book. Priklonsky Electron "Diary of a self-propelled gunner".
  14. Illanatol
    Illanatol 26 January 2022 09: 05
    0
    Quote: Kostadinov
    Again (once again) a senseless comparison of tanks as an anti-tank weapon.
    Tanks with tanks do not fight except by mistake - the main principle in this war.


    Alas, these "mistakes" became the main principle of that war, from its middle, at least.
    Heavy German tanks T-5 and T-6 were created as an anti-tank weapon, a means of combating the Soviet T-34s. This was in contrast to Soviet heavy tanks, such as the IS-2, which was also designed to support infantry in breakthroughs of fortified defenses, destroying enemy pillboxes.
  15. Illanatol
    Illanatol 26 January 2022 09: 06
    0
    Quote: Zaurbek
    152 mm is not optimal for firing ... ... we put something that could penetrate heavy tanks, there was no other. The other is Su100 and Su122. Especially 100 ka ... ..


    152 mm well destroys pillboxes. Some versatility is sometimes out of place.
  16. Illanatol
    Illanatol 26 January 2022 09: 10
    0
    Quote: ivan2022
    It is even more interesting to know that the Germans had a policy of exalting Soviet technology, and not their own? Or maybe it's supposed to be "sensibly exalted" only the equipment of the enemy?


    So you have to somehow justify your mistakes and failures. And then there will be doubts about the competence and military skill ... and so - it was the enemy’s technique that was better, so we merged. Claims against the manufacturers of the native fatherland, who failed to provide the unfortunate defenders of the Reich with excellent equipment in their unequal struggle with the armored hordes of the Bolsheviks.
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  19. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 19 February 2022 08: 33
    0
    And how many of them were serviceable vehicles for one and a half thousand German tanks?