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How can we save the future of Russia

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A small digression. Inspired by comments on my latest articles. There is a separate category of citizens who express their opinion on critical articles. How did one here give out: why didn’t I take data on their “development” from Kronstadt and compare it with a Chinese toy that these figures tried to pass off as “development”?


Because I just don't have to do it. I saw that bloggers have such a place. Yes, I checked it all through my Ali account. And he was convinced that "Kronstadt" gives out a toy for its development. And to check whether they bought a license there (as some of our patriots claim), or what else - sorry, is not obliged. The officials from "Kronstadt" are obliged to prove this.

And so in everything. Yes, I am a journalist. Pisak. And it is my responsibility to write, as noted in my job description. Search for topics and work out. Running around the prosecutor’s offices, as some “those who are well versed in life” pointed out to me again, this is not my responsibility. Yes, from time to time I write appeals to the prosecutor's office (there were five of them this year) and sometimes results are obtained. But since this is my civil initiative, I am not obliged to report on the work done to anyone.

If you want to be correct and active - write. The form is as simple as a Kalashnikov assault rifle: "I ask you to check the legality of the facts stated in the article." And I will simply be obliged to give an answer to the request of the prosecutor's office regarding what I have stated. And with any citizen of Russia I will be happy to talk on the legal fields.



And now we go to the topic.

How do you, dear readers, stop the march of degenerates


Very often in the comments I see something like that, originally from childhood, "What does the author suggest?" That is, he, the reader, is like in that song, “No, everything is clear, but what exactly?”.

So, today it will be specific. And as much as I did not give out in a year. Not only analysis, but also a call for real action.

So, how do you ... Yes, exactly for you. Dear readers, I am simply addressing your brains and your healthy psyche. This is a luxury today, but ... We are rich in this, aren't we?

On these pages we very often talk about how everything should be in our country. Yes, not all opinions coincide, gentlemen, leavened patriots spoil the case very much, but today I want to initiate them too. Suddenly what comes out decent, hope, as they say, dies last.

Today I want to talk about culture. Do not make a noise, everything here is very much even interconnected with our direction. Someone will think, well, where does that listen to our tomorrow? Yes, besides, it is, this is tomorrow, listening to the painted girl of Morgenstern! And a bunch of organisms similar to him / her.

And this is a huge problem.

We, "scoops", grew up on completely different music. On the beautiful, tasty, and most importantly - on the one that she taught. She taught me to think, taught me to look for meaning. And they searched and found. Even in the texts of Tsoi and Grebenshchikov.

Today's generations are consuming this trash. I cannot say otherwise. I will not smudge the pages of VO, on which I live, with quotes from the "works" of these genetic errors, because there are many of them. She, a mistake, sooner or later, but will disappear into oblivion. But the mold and mustiness she sown will remain. Moreover - in the brain.

What citizen, excuse me, can grow up with the words that Alisher Valeev utters with his mouth? For whom is creativity in general? "You slept with me, you fool yourself, trawled!" or something similar.

And I'll tell you: for morons. In support of my words, I will give the channel address "Medfilm", where you can see for yourself how doctors communicate with oligophrenics at the stage of retardation. Then find and listen to Morgenstern's track on your own. Well, at least "If I slept with you." Imbued with the depth of the text, the meaning ... If you find it. But - the main thing - compare.

And comparing, you will understand how everything is similar, the conversation of doctors with the oligophrenic and the performance of "works" for the public by these ...

But I'm not talking about that now. I'm talking about how Alisher Valeev voices (well, you can't call THIS singing). Forgive me, but as a person who thinks a little about music (two of his own albums were in his youth), I can say that "Morgenstern" sings in the language of morons and for them. All the same relaxed larynx and lower jaw, indistinct pronunciation of words, strongly lowered tonality. A sort of mumbling "Yyy-mana". However, what am I telling you here? Listen to yourself. I only beg you, not on a full stomach, okay?

The problem is not that after the vocal and aesthetic beauty of Zemfira, Ufa threw us this freak. Winner in the category "Woman of the Year" at the Topical Style Awards 2020.

It, in an amicable way, should be knitted and pricked with appropriate preparations, but ... The idol of the generation. They listen to him. It is really listened to by those who are between 12 and 20 today.

Nothing more to listen to?


In my youth, it was generally accepted that lyrics were a very important part of a song. Together with music. Today - indistinct mumbling "money, heifers, all the pain" and so on. What will grow? How will it grow? After all, they listen ...

And after all this, God forgive me, "tiparep" and not rap at all. Yes, the flow itself was invented for those who cannot sing or play. But not so much ... If we compare the same Eminem and this Valeev, then the bottom pierced by the "Schmorgenstern" provides a calm dive on an even keel into the Mariana Trench.

Why do teenagers listen to this bawdy mumbling? Why do they like it?

You know, I'm scared to imagine, but, apparently, Valeev is broadcasting in their language. And this is cause for concern. If all adolescents like an illiterate, uneducated monster so much - what does this mean?

Only that this mediocrity is broadcasting in the language of oligophrenics for ... who? And the mentally retarded, it turns out, like the creations of the "woman of the year", who performs something for them in one language.

The general degradation of our reality is what it all means. Previously, when culture was controlled by the state, only an appropriately prepared person could appear on the stage.

Here, by the way, I can cite as an example of the “strangulation” of our rock amateur performance, as a result of which such famous people as Igor Sukachev and Sergey Galanin ended up within the walls of the Lipetsk Regional Cultural and Educational School and graduated from it (importantly!). One mastered the course of directing (Sukachev), the second (Galanin) course of orchestral conducting. And, by the way, both received a separate higher education and even managed to work in the specialties they received, until the rock ate them with giblets.


Was this helpful? Definitely. Sukachev's films can and should be watched, they have an idea, meaning and charm. "House of the Sun" is generally super, a wonderful backing in those times.

Smart, talented, literate people. And here to each his own - to whom "Earring", to whom "The Untouchables", is a matter of taste. But - taste.

What do you see in Valeev and others like him? Insignificance. Tattooed vacuum. Education? What for? To bleat a dozen words to a booming rhythm, you don't need education. Schools are over the roof. Rhyme? God why? This is rap, "type music" for those who do not know how to do anything.

A good guideline for growing up, right? You don't need education. Nothing is needed, not even intelligence is needed. It is in our time that everyone, from Tsoi to Revyakin, was trying to convey, show, draw with words to music, to the British flag.

Today we need to paint up with tattoos (I have nothing against when it is beautiful and tasteful, but this is not about "Morgensterns") and start mumbling words. And if ears are given, they will hear.

Why?


I talked with people from 13 to 30. Everything is simple: Kinchev, Shevchuk, Butusov, Kipelov, Mavrin, Sukachev, Galanin, Voronin, Borzykin, Makarevich, Varshavsky, Samoilovs are ours. This is old, so ancient is ours. Understandable for those who are over 30 today. And the well-groomed generations cannot understand them anymore. Too difficult, you know. It's confusing, as they say.

And then, it's really ours. And we are, alas, not the best examples today. And besides, each generation needs exactly its own. Our parents had enough of Kobzon, Magomayev, Okudzhava, Vysotsky and VIA, we needed the above people. And it's great that they happened in that country. That Rock has come.

The next generation did well too. Helavisa, Chancellor Guy, Lagutenko, Vasiliev, Gorshenev and Knyazev - it was! And in some cases, no worse than in our times.

And then everything. People are over. Anyway, they were still from there, from the "beautiful far away." Vasiliev 1969 release, Lagutenko 1968, Khelavisa / O Shey - 1976, Knyazev - 1973. You can go on, and, moreover, ad infinitum.

A cruel fact: Russian independence for its entire existence did not give rise to anyone worthwhile. The only exception I can consider (and I think) is Ivan Alekseev, who is Noize MC. Indeed, this is practically the only person in whose works there is spirit and meaning. And even then, apparently, not for long. The UK is already working on this.

All the rest are "morgenshtyrny". Beating on the brain with beat-boxes and humming sets of words, poorly connected by meaning. Often - utterly obscene.

And let's not argue that our state is doing nothing in this regard. He, the state, simply does not care. Will not it, the state, destroy Business, which is sacred for the "Schmorgenshtyrns"?

No, for the state, just, it is very useful to mortify generations. Fools are easier to manage, it is common knowledge. That is why "Shtyrny" is very useful.

The other is alarming. In search of arguments, I went to visit two families. Communicate with the younger generations (13 and 15 years old). My questions were simple, but the reaction of my parents ... "By the way, what are you listening to?" sounded in both cases.

I need to talk about half-disdainful answers in the style of "What's the difference to you now?" I won't. Parents have no time to study what the kids breathe. Logically, everyone has work, work, survival, and so on.

Indifference elevated to a cult


And the "Morgenshturns" bludgeon on the brains. And - most importantly - they broadcast how stylish and cool it is to be a scoundrel.

And now the question is: how much can you expect anything patriotic from such people? No, really, how much do you believe that these people, when they grow up, can, if something happens, take it in their hands weapon and go to defend the country?

Personally, I don’t believe it at all.

And not because Valeev is a stupid obscenity with no meaning and base, not quite rhymed lines, which there is no point in citing, Roskomnadzor will not miss any of his exclusions here. But these lines are listened to as "theirs" by everyone who will have to become someone tomorrow.

Yes, they will grow !!! This is the main problem !!!

They will grow up and want to be realized! How? Yes, like Danya Milokhin. To talk nonsense and get paid for it. I do not know who the day after tomorrow will stand at the machines, apparently, it will be the Chinese. Or Uzbeks. But definitely not Russians.

As it was before? Everything was clear: excellent students and good students went to universities, C-students went for special education. Now it seems that the Unified State Exam and the average grade allow filtering, but ... it only works for a minuscule budgetary places. A commercial education allows anyone to get a degree.

And why a vocational school / college, if you can take an iPhone and start sculpting an imperishable in "Tik-Tok"? We will talk about this cesspool separately, but the example of Dani Milokhin is now the light at the end of the tunnel for many. Why learn anything when you can be nice?

This is the sword of Damocles that hangs over the Russian tomorrow today. Tomorrow, I assure you, no one will go for the machine. It sucks. The IT sphere, sitting at the computer or blogging - this is the ideal for many.

Now for those who say that I am broadcasting because of my computer: yes, of course. Just three of the three medical factories where I worked, alas, that's all. Not my fault, if anything. And here it seems to work. 20 million reads per year - not Danya Milokhin, but there is something like that.

Moreover, do not worry, soon it will be fine with such writers who can convey something to the reader in Russian. In the sense - will end. The Ministry of Education is working hard on this.

But those who want to do something are also problematic with this. As dogs, forgive me, everyone understands, it is not very good to say and express. Although dogs sometimes do better than some people.


What's this? Yes it is clear. What was in the brains poured out onto the embankment of the Moskva River.


You saw this horror too. Our, Novovoronezh Alenka.


And here's the new one. From the Yalta monarchists. Also raises questions for compliance. What is this, Alien, sundew, battleship - who or what is absorbing the family of Nikolai Romanov?

It turns out that the angel protects them with his wings. This is how one of the creators of IT, Anastasia Almyashova, explained.

If I were in the place of the Russian Orthodox Church, I would be indignant. How much the capabilities of angels are very much underestimated, if you remember history... That is, if the angel covered with wings, then why such a result?

But in fact, this nightmare is purely rejection. Why? Because it is not clear. Yes, we wanted the best, it turned out as usual.

And this is not harmful. It’s just the inability to clearly express your thoughts. And this is what awaits Russia literally in 10-15 years.

However, even now everything is fine. You can read this commentary on the Review without an auto-editor, but go to YouTube or Tiktok. A cold shower is provided. Moreover, the younger, the more illiterate and incoherent the texts.

The country is getting stupid and dumb by simply catastrophic steps. Meanwhile, the Teacher tomorrow will be much more important than the banker or manager. And the Minister of Education is much more important to the country than anyone else.


And here we come to the main thing, which I promised at the beginning.

In general, after the Donbass, he promised to be the initiator of all sorts of projects, but, apparently, worth it. So, gentlemen who have looked through and comrades who have read the text. If you agree that a complete nightmare is going on in our culture and education, then let's act.

The main question of the day: what does the author suggest?


The author suggests remembering (especially patriots of all stripes) that we are not only readers and writers under various anonymous nicknames (not all, not all), but also citizens of the Russian Federation. And this means - not only trembling creatures, but also having the right.

The right to demand from the president of the country appropriate actions.
In accordance with the Federal Constitutional Law of 06.11.2020 N 4-FKZ "On the Government of the Russian Federation", in particular, its Article 10 "Appointment to the office of federal ministers",

1. The President of the Russian Federation appoints to office:

1) federal ministers - heads of federal executive bodies in charge of defense, state security, internal affairs, justice, foreign affairs, prevention of emergency situations and elimination of the consequences of natural disasters, public safety, after consultation with the Federation Council of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation (hereinafter - Council of the Federation);

2) other federal ministers after the approval of their candidatures by the State Duma.


According to clause 2 of article 10, citizens of Russia have every right to apply through the appropriate functionals (from public services to the electronic reception of the president) with a DEMAND to replace the minister of education, as they are completely unable to cope with their duties.

In fact, the previous ones did not cope very well, but something has really been going on in our education lately.

And further, so as not to be satisfied with what has already been achieved. For "if you criticize, offer."

Next, I propose to familiarize yourself with what this person says:


And having listened very carefully to what was said, I am convinced that in the post of Minister of Education and Science it is Alexander Vladimirovich Savvateev is able to pull Russian education out of the quagmire where Messrs. Filippov, Fursenko, Livanov (especially) drove it, and even with God's help, Vasilyeva is not very successful. At least the rapidly growing wealthy teachers speak about it out loud.

So, we are writing letters to the president. Whoever sees fit, demand, ask, some, over there, record video messages on their knees on the Internet. Personally, I consider it possible to demand.

And then we send our letters and answers to them to me. To my mail [email protected]... And, say, in March, we publish the results. My appeal will go first, I hope it will not be considered immodesty, as the saying goes, “who fooled - he started,” and then those who are really not indifferent to the situation in the country.

Here we will see who is a real boar on our website, and who came to discuss the author purely.

I invite everyone: communists, non-party people, monarchists, rightists, leftists, and so on. Members and sympathizers of "United Russia" have the right not to strain, everything is fine with them in the country, all the way.

This is a simple matter, half an hour of your life. At the Kremlin, of course, it is difficult, but through state services it is quite possible to cope.

Yes, and if someone knows his State Duma deputy and knocks on his head, he will have a separate respect.

So who is "not weak", who thinks that this country is worth fighting for at least for the sake of grandchildren-great-grandchildren - there is a trench, I'm already in it, come in. We then together did a lot of good things for Donbass, apparently, and here they will definitely not do without us.

We want results - we need to act.

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  1. Aerodrome
    Aerodrome 12 January 2022 05: 30
    +40
    We want results - we need to act.
    Author:
    Roman Skomorokhov
    but ... to tell the truth, now, by the way, extremism ...
    1. Civil
      Civil 12 January 2022 07: 09
      +7
      The new generation always denies the values ​​of the outgoing.
      1. The "rebel-rockers of the 80s" themselves have become polished, glossy semi-official singers, do not hesitate to perform prefabricated concerts for the Days of the Railroad Worker, Customs Officer ... and so on.
      2. All fashion has been from the West for many years, rap is also on the first lines of popularity there.
      3. It just so happened that the moods of young people are now determined by benchmarks. There is a limited number of gifted people for each generation. If rock were in vogue, they would become rock singers.
      4. Their texts are adequate to reality and are completely opposite to the official media.
      5. Everyone will get sick with childhood diseases in childhood, then these young people will marry, have children and will also be an obedient and non-emerging electorate.
      1. bar
        bar 12 January 2022 08: 39
        +61
        Quote: Civil
        The new generation always denies the values ​​of the outgoing.

        The modern new generation is simply not aware of the values ​​of the outgoing. Nobody told him about these values. It was immediately born in a country where values ​​are forgotten, and instead of them business is stupid. When demand creates supply, and dumb advertising and marketing determine that demand. And everything is spinning in this tangle. The supply satisfies the demand generated by any of the basest instincts, and the instincts overwhelm the mind and dominate it in the flow of "content" that satisfies the demand. And it's not just music / art. From the debilator in a continuous stream, all kinds of indecency like "court cases" and other slops are rushing, where they enthusiastically shake up all kinds of dirty linen, asking who, with whom, how many times, from whom it flew in, who will pay alimony for this drunk-born unnecessary ka.
        And there can be no natural way out of this dense tangle of vulgarity, lust, nastiness, fixated on itself. Because the law of supply and demand, because channels need ratings to sell ads, because loot wins over everything. And one-off measures such as replacing a couple of ministers and a dozen officials will not solve anything. We need a comprehensive system of upbringing this new generation, from kindergarten to adulthood, so that they themselves can then take care of the new "new generation", and not produce new generations of dabiles.
        1. Machito
          Machito 12 January 2022 08: 58
          +38
          The novel is on fire today. Modern education has sunk to the level of the mobile phone. Dumb citizens are easier to manage with the help of a mobile phone. Digital slavery.
          1. Bad_gr
            Bad_gr 12 January 2022 12: 21
            +6
            Quote: Bearded
            The novel is on fire today.
            Videos on this topic
        2. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 12 January 2022 10: 54
          +13
          Quote: bar
          When demand creates supply, and dumb advertising and marketing determine that demand

          This policy is defined at the top. When the Minister of Education speaks about the need for literate consumers, and the president rewards mediocrities like Yurkis, there will be no other way. hi
          1. bar
            bar 12 January 2022 12: 05
            +8
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            This policy is defined at the top. When the education minister talks about the need for literate consumers, and the president rewards mediocrities

            Neither the Minister of Education, nor the President will do anything in one person. We've had all sorts of ministers, from Livanov with his "porters" to Vasilyeva with her idea to stop "providing educational services" and finally start raising children again. What changed? The content in the same debilator is still the same. Because capitalism, because loot conquers everything, even the president ...
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 12 January 2022 12: 27
              +12
              Quote: bar
              loot wins everything, even the president ...

              He is the guarantor of the bubble. Better to say the beholder
              1. bar
                bar 12 January 2022 14: 19
                -9
                He is the overseer of order in the country. And it's not his fault that this order is based on bubble. He did not install it, and unfortunately he cannot change it ...
                1. V means B
                  V means B 14 January 2022 12: 31
                  0
                  Well, probably, then, as an honest person, he should take a pen, paper and write a letter of resignation or not?
            2. Modya
              Modya 12 January 2022 14: 18
              +1
              Loot - we have a reinforced concrete argument! BUT the organized attack by foreign agents on all spheres of life of Russian society in the 90s and early 2000s should not be forgotten. The mechanism is as follows. The Ministry of Education and the subordinate institutes paid little money, and the grants from the Soros Foundation and other similar foundations were very tasty. What is a grant is a contract according to which you have to do some kind of work. Only the result of this work is obviously not related to the interest of the grantor. For example, to develop a curriculum for a secondary general education school.
              Scheme: the bosses (Ministry of Education and Science) set the subordinates (specialized Institute) the task - to develop a training program; subordinates are too lazy to work so hard for the pennies they are paid, but then it turns out that the Soros Foundation gives a grant for the same task, and if the Ministry of Education and Science does not specify the terms of reference (because they are too lazy to work hard for a penny), then the fund has everything detailed; it turns out a program that meets the requirements of the Ministry of Education, but is made according to the standards determined by the Soros Foundation and everyone seems to be happy, BUT education is in the ass! Then, according to these programs, candidate and doctoral dissertations are written and defended, and now you have a group of experts who defend Soros's approaches to the education of Russians. Therefore, replacing the minister will not solve anything here. It is necessary to change the entire team (Ministry).
              And the fact that you need to do something about this and write to the president, everyone, to the extent of their compensation and opportunities - I AGREE.
              1. zenion
                zenion 12 January 2022 21: 43
                +1
                Modya. Such a Russia has no future. One cannot live as under feudalism while the capitalists cannot preserve their system. Already now in Russia, as in the song of V. Vysotsky - everyone took his allotment, he got chickens and sat in it, guarding his inheritance, out of work. Russia is divided into principalities, and then into castles and settlements for laborers, which are.
          2. fif21
            fif21 13 January 2022 18: 20
            +1
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            it will not be otherwise.
            What country - such and such songs, here I completely agree with you. hi
        3. ViacheslavS
          ViacheslavS 12 January 2022 11: 17
          0
          The modern new generation is simply not aware of the values ​​of the outgoing. Nobody told him about these values.

          As it is not in the know, modern youth look at Putin's main electorate are people who lived in the USSR.
        4. Rust
          Rust 12 January 2022 18: 27
          +4
          I agree. I have said for a long time that a generation of ill-mannered people has grown up, and they are raising their children in the same way.
        5. Aag
          Aag 12 January 2022 21: 34
          +3
          Quote: bar
          Quote: Civil
          The new generation always denies the values ​​of the outgoing.

          The modern new generation is simply not aware of the values ​​of the outgoing. Nobody told him about these values. It was immediately born in a country where values ​​are forgotten, and instead of them business is stupid. When demand creates supply, and dumb advertising and marketing determine that demand. And everything is spinning in this tangle. The supply satisfies the demand generated by any of the basest instincts, and the instincts overwhelm the mind and dominate it in the flow of "content" that satisfies the demand. And it's not just music / art. From the debilator in a continuous stream, all kinds of indecency like "court cases" and other slops are rushing, where they enthusiastically shake up all kinds of dirty linen, asking who, with whom, how many times, from whom it flew in, who will pay alimony for this drunk-born unnecessary ka.
          And there can be no natural way out of this dense tangle of vulgarity, lust, nastiness, fixated on itself. Because the law of supply and demand, because channels need ratings to sell ads, because loot wins over everything. And one-off measures such as replacing a couple of ministers and a dozen officials will not solve anything. We need a comprehensive system of upbringing this new generation, from kindergarten to adulthood, so that they themselves can then take care of the new "new generation", and not produce new generations of dabiles.

          hi
          Excuse me, but also me ... well, yes, - it infuriates (!), Does not get indignant, not "I am growing up, I express my disagreement" with what is being said on "Vesti FM" "V. Solovyov! ... -Petrosyan from politicians ... Proud ... (hands are busy at work, - ears, more often, - free, - I often listen to Vesti FM.
          ... Sometimes horror ... comes. No, not a muslin young lady, I speak the Russian command language, I work on the territory of the warehouse, in a certain environment, I think the forms of the language are justified ... But! I consider inappropriate the screams of Vladimir Rudolfovich about the failed culture in the Fatherland ... And then - "talk" about ... "the mattresses raped by Shanderovich", about "Dzhigurda with Panin's leg in the opera" ... Some kind of sur! .. .All this on the daytime air!
          How to treat this ?!
          It is cautious to turn on the first channel with a child! Well, according to my "reptilian" beliefs ...
          In short, IMHO, -V. Solovyov and Co, for a long time, secretly, and not very much, have been working not for the good for us, and even not for the good of the Russian Federation (even though for a long time, and, apparently, not selflessly, they have been posing as patriots) ...
          Those wishing to minus: if Solovyov is unsympathetic to me, this does not mean that I am sympathetic to Navalny, Tikhanovskaya, Anatoly Serdyukov, K. Sobchak, Milokhin, etc.
          Somehow, some have driven themselves into a very narrow framework, not without the help of some ...))) hi
      2. antivirus
        antivirus 12 January 2022 09: 10
        +18
        to find meaning in Grebenshchikov is a feat.
        all life is striving for the stars.
        courtyard music went to mass culture, it cannot be defeated.
        I wrote many times -BEGINNING WITH EDUCATORS D. SADIKOV (not only, but also salary) + primary school:. educate the subconscious and eventually grow up a generation.
        and modern people were brought up under EBN and in 00g (GDP) - for another 40-60 years they will live as they were raised and re-educated. the necessary vector of development was confirmed for them
        1. viktortarianik
          viktortarianik 12 January 2022 09: 24
          +10
          Yes, you have to start with your parents!
          1. Mikhail Sidorov
            Mikhail Sidorov 12 January 2022 10: 42
            +4
            It is necessary to educate while the child lies across the bench .. Parents are too late ...
        2. SovAr238A
          SovAr238A 12 January 2022 10: 44
          +12
          Quote: antivirus
          to find meaning in Grebenshchikov is a feat.
          all life is striving for the stars.
          courtyard music went to mass culture, it cannot be defeated.
          I wrote many times -BEGINNING WITH EDUCATORS D. SADIKOV (not only, but also salary) + primary school:. educate the subconscious and eventually grow up a generation.
          and modern people were brought up under EBN and in 00g (GDP) - for another 40-60 years they will live as they were raised and re-educated. the necessary vector of development was confirmed for them

          Kindergartens have long been banned from education. Read FSES.
          Even if at least someone tries to work simply "correctly", it will 100% contradict the Federal State Educational Standard.
          And the teacher will be fired right away.
    2. dauria
      dauria 12 January 2022 09: 28
      +10
      to tell the truth, now, by the way, extremism ...

      Exactly. They tied a neighbor - he decided to preach Ohm's law to the people.
      Well, Skomorokhov ... Well, he made me laugh. I have heard this song "All those who were born after 1960 - all the babies" all my life only with the change of the date. laughing
      Youth as youth, some even know how to solve quadratic equations. The procedure for appointing ministers is defined in the constitution like. I don’t know who Savvateev is, and I’m not going to delve into it. Maybe he will not pull the foreman, let alone the minister. Oh, yes ... one more thing - I can't stand Tsoi with his "cucumbers" and music. When the gallows is ready, call.
      1. maximaniak
        maximaniak 12 January 2022 10: 08
        +6
        Thank you for tsoi. In my youth, I looked at Tsoi and his fans almost as now at Morgenstern. No music, no meaning ... Only irrational folk love
        1. Pilot
          Pilot 12 January 2022 12: 00
          +5
          looked at Tsoi and his fans almost as now at Morgenstern. No music, no meaning ... Only irrational folk love
          Oooh, the ancient past grumbled, lovers of the semantic Leshchenko with Kobzon and the sugary-pimply Tender May with Mirage. laughing Here's a fly agaric for you, just in the topic of the article and not only .. tongue
          1. Orkraider
            Orkraider 12 January 2022 20: 02
            +3
            Greetings!
            There are also modern singers, with good meaning and voice, for example Igor Rasteryaev, and also on the button accordion)))


            https://youtu.be/TCjYCLi3xBY
        2. Hypertension
          Hypertension 13 January 2022 10: 32
          +3
          Quote: maximaniak
          In my youth, I looked at Tsoi and his fans almost as now at Morgenstern. No music, no meaning ...

          Let's compare so as not to be unfounded.

          Tsoi - Sad song:
          And commanding an army for years,
          We lost in battle day after day
          And when we lit the fire -
          Our fire was extinguished with rain.
          We sit by broken troughs
          And we guess on the wind rose,
          And when it's time to get up -
          We sit, we wait.

          More relevant than ever.

          THRILL PILL, EGOR CRED, MORGENSHTERN - Sad song:
          Ooh, ooh, i-i
          (female dog) wants money, I-I-I
          I-I-I
          This (female dog) wants money (Go!)

          Work in bed, baby (Yeah)
          I twist the d *** mo right on the bed, baby
          Every day of the week goes by like this
          In my house, like in a hotel, (female dog) wants money (Cash)
          Work in bed, baby (Baby, baby)
          This (female dog) wants money (Hey)
          Work in bed, baby
          This (female dog) wants money (Let's go)

          Do you want to say that there is no difference?
      2. Alexga
        Alexga 12 January 2022 11: 17
        +6
        Oh, yes ... one more thing - I can't stand Tsoi with his "cucumbers" and music.

        Well, thank God, it turns out that my like-minded people still exist in this world! After his words about how to turn away from the army, he was ready to sit in a durke, he is not much different from the Morgenstern, it is enough to listen carefully to the words of his songs. Well this is my opinion.
        1. V means B
          V means B 14 January 2022 12: 35
          0
          If you abstract as much as possible, then yes, you are right.
      3. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 12 January 2022 22: 39
        0
        Bravo! Everyone was waiting for someone to express this idea.
        Remember being young!
        Didn't grandmothers spit after hairy guys who listened to the Beatles? Did not they drive the same Tsoi, Grebenshchikov into the "underground"?
        And statements were like "only videos (tape recorders) in my head!..."
        Not twisting your finger at the temple, watching how the guys "break" and make a wave in the break?
        All this was. And we got through it. Have we become degenerates? Useless? It seems to me that young people simply "get sick" with these bursts every 10-15 years, and then they forget and ... and grow up.
        1. your1970
          your1970 13 January 2022 17: 56
          +1
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          Didn't grandmothers spit after hairy guys who listened to the Beatles? Did not they drive the same Tsoi, Grebenshchikov into the "underground"?

          Kushka ...
          In 1989, there was an article in Komsomolskaya Pravda A type of Afghan veteran wrote a letter ...
          We are sitting in the Lenkomnat and then the political officer of the regiment kicked in (no other way !!) and he began to read it aloud.
          Like "We are in Afghanistan by the fire with a guitar they listened to "Brigantine ...", and the new generation shit such as Forum, Cinema, Mirage, Lube ... "

          Then the people - the regiment almost entirely from Afgan got out - began to crawl under the tables and choke ...
          The zampolit smiled and said - well, yes, the newsmen got excited ...

          Quite recently, by historical standards, waltz and then tango were vulgar and depraved ..
          Did those who danced tango before the Second World War become worse at war? The question is rhetorical ...
    3. Anachoret
      Anachoret 12 January 2022 13: 05
      +10
      I would like to tell the author))
      If you think the new generation is worse than the previous ones, then you just got older)

      The same applies to music, and the reasons for the maximum simplification of commercial music should be sought in the same Beatles)) it was they who became the standard of primitivization, vulgarization and standardization in show business))
      Now bearded hipparis will start spitting "don't touch Beatlorastia because it's all about our music")))
      But, in fact, this is one of the first successful projects of the secret services, which pursued both a commercial and a political goal)) in order to weaken the influence of American culture on British youth)) the project shot globally and became the godfather for all modern and primitive boys and girls. bands))

      since then, both mattresses and shaves by their special services have grown tightly with show business to promote their "agendas"
      And if you take our show business, the heat is the pro-Turkish lobby of the family of the President of Azerbaijan, the "producers" of tik-tok houses - through one Zaur, Mukbeki and other non-Russian barmaley and this is a real threat to national security)) is no less than control by the same "nationalities "Over the food markets of our country)) not to mention international labels promoting" their agenda "through music in our market))

      And if we discard the "romanticization of the past" by the author of the article) let's see who and for how long "taught us to love the forbidden fruits of America"))
      Take all these obscene "morning mails", where even the half-drunk Karachentsovs and representatives of the average humorous forms of Shifrins sang) and the top of "musical perfection" was served all sorts of "secrets" that in the 80s exploited the image and music of the 60s) development "))

      Of course, not everything was so sad, but even now not everything is as sad as the author draws in his "black square"))

      The author, for example, contrasted Morgenstern with Zemfira) but are they really such antipodes? An open lover of women's beams Zemfira is not the best example to follow and, in fact, the same berry field as Morgenstern) is the same degradant, only for her era and is only a stage of a single "corrupting" Overton window with a Morgenstern)

      The novel, perhaps, will talk about the melody of the music) the point is not in the melody, but in the agenda being promoted))

      further, okay, let's look at other "non-melodic" examples)) Sukachev, praised by the author, now "does not hit a single note" live, there was a once popular group "technology", from the singing of which now blood will flow from the ears)) and against this background it is strange find fault with the conditional Vale Carnival, that she does not get into notes in the elementary chant) this is still the same "pop heredity" that was laid down long before her))

      Speaking of rap, as a musical format for those who “cannot sing and play”, as the author put it), rap was promoted to the big stage by George Michael and Aerosmith, who can hardly be caught in both of the above “shortcomings”)) and recitative was also present in operas)
      so rap is one of the directions in music, and not "inability to sing and play", just the author of the article does not like rap and loves rock))

      and if you take many modern and "those times" rock performers - they are also "not about singing, but about screaming" (including even pop Leps), and screaming is not singing, but still another "form of extracting sound from a voice apparatus ", like rap))

      If you take the "meaning" of the songs of Tsoi and Grebenshchikov))
      In "a similar topic raised by Roman in this article" I communicated with my children and also thought to cite Tsoi as an example, whom, like many, I loved at a young age)) I listened now) Oh, holy, holy, holy, borrowed image and sound, and the lyrics are a continuous depression and hopelessness) with which the rock music of that time “rocked” the country and actively promoted the idea of ​​“the wretchedness of a totalitarian scoop”)

      "Semantic" Grebenshchikov, as a representative of the popular philosophical movement New Age ... (this is when to the music of the Beatles or Pink Floyd masturbate, recite mantras, beat the tambourine humming "hare krishna", moreover, all this is done at the same time)) ... if you listen to his creativity and interviews - he speaks nonsense worse than Dani Milokhin, simply, "in his role" and does it with a deliberately "peaceful and wise look" carefully disguising himself as an intelligent person))

      The "rebels" listed by the author of the article Alisa, Makarevich, Aria, Shevchuk, Butusov and Agatha Christie also sang about "puppets", "monster snakes", "totalitarian rap", "executioners", the shaky statehood of the Soviet Union in their brains. listener)) now many of us understand that devastation begins with the brain with the attachment of "thoughts-worms" that destroy from the inside))

      Many of the musicians listed above, having visited abroad, having seen how this all happens with them and having matured a little, realized their destructive role and changed the vector of creativity and thought (and they did the right thing, I suppose)

      And people like Shevchuk in their mentality and stuck in their pubertal rebellious consciousness, and such as Makarevich, Troitsky openly identified themselves as enemies of the "Russian world" and its cultural code))

      Particularly indicative is the split of Agatha Christie, where one brother began to think, one might even say "Russian creative state standards," and the other aimed at rooting destructive things in the public consciousness)

      And if you take the work of many rock groups of that time), almost any rock hit of those times had to contain "glued stamps", "opium for no one", which they strove to introduce "under my skin" on a "helicopter carpet" (nothing better than the degradant Morgenstern)

      If we take into account the fact that all this “semantic stream” of a fatal direction poured into the ears of the population when violent flows of drug traffic flowed from “democratic” Afghanistan under the control of the British military and special services into the Post-Soviet space) and in almost every multi-storey building consisting of of the once "more or less decent neighbors", at least one apartment-drug den appeared, in which there were only smashed stools and pissed mattresses scattered in the corners of the rooms) and life from these apartments periodically flowed through the windows directly onto the lawns in front of the house) good, some of the "rock promoters" of these ideas flew there, "on the lawn", like the same Pot, for example) and this is good, because in their lives they clearly demonstrate the result of the ideas they themselves promote in creativity)

      Someone will like these "rock ideas", as well as the ideas of Morgenstern) and someone will listen, laugh and go their own way) make a career, create a family and give birth to children)

      We, too, did not become "embittered drug addicts" despite the content of the songs of the rock hits of our time)

      There are always different poles in Pop Culture to show an alternative and separate "lambs from goats") they move "progress" by their polar interaction according to the principle of magnetic fields) because if everything is only "equally good", we will quickly drown in cotton candy and massively people will run for "pork cartilage" to the refrigerator))

      Personally, I see from my children and their friends that the current generation is better than ours in many respects and it makes me happy and inspiring)) and they listen to different music, and they have good tastes from my point of view) although I don't like everything from the point of view view of my age and perception of music))

      so it's not all that bad, and pop culture is fed up with more than one morgenstern and milohin))

      As for Savvateev, he is an intelligent man, but God forbid this for the post of minister)) a minister is an administrative position) and such bright minds as Savvateev, Wasserman and various innovators in educational systems should be in some kind of "public expert council" with extended powers that would really influence experiments and improve the educational process and efforts should be made precisely for the creation and implementation of such a "Council" under the Ministry of Education) and not in replacing "bad old girls with new good ones"))

      Best regards
      1. Elturisto
        Elturisto 12 January 2022 20: 08
        +4
        Interesting comment. Thank you.
        I disagree about BG - he always treated the so-called rock'n'roll players and his work with irony. Therefore, he was often scolded by his colleagues.
        Attack being determines consciousness, it would be strange if Morgenstern sang something else.
      2. V means B
        V means B 14 January 2022 12: 37
        0
        Personally, I do not consider the new generation worse than the previous one, but I am always interested in the question - why are they so evil?
    4. Hypertension
      Hypertension 12 January 2022 15: 03
      +5
      Quote: Aerodrome
      but ... to tell the truth, now, by the way, extremism ...

      Write to the President ... Roman himself indicated in the article:
      it is very useful for the state to mortify generations. Fools are easier to manage, it is common knowledge. That is why "Shtyrny" is very useful.

      It is the state that advertises this little baby. The forbidden fruit, as you know, is sweet. And the dissident's halo, I think, will benefit Morgenstern. Suffice it to recall the case when he was fined 100 thousand rubles, despite the fact that he earns millions on imbeciles.
      And it is necessary to fight this muck on the principle of "wedge by wedge". We need to promote and promote truly talented singers and artists. At school, focus on culture and good music. It is necessary to reduce the "food supply" for all the Milokhins and Valeevs. Mold does not grow in a vacuum. But first of all, we need will and ideology from above, and there are also intellectuals, not to say that there are many ...
    5. Nikon O'Conor
      Nikon O'Conor 12 January 2022 20: 47
      +4
      The novel cuts the truth, and cuts it off the shoulder. And he is RIGHT !!!
      Recently, a friend of my wife and her two daughters came to visit us. The eldest 12 years old, sits without looking up from the phone. With difficulty he brought her to a conversation, and when asked "Who do you want to become in the future," I was shocked - by a "blogger" !!! BLOGGER, my mother is a woman (censored swearing), she wants to become !!!
      I try to explain that there is no "blogger" profession, there is a teacher, engineer, doctor, builder, etc. A profession is what you do not only for yourself but also for society. In response, a complete misunderstanding .... - "If I earn a lot of likes, I will earn a lot of money, and then donate to the community."
      A few weeks later, they sat with us (there was no one to leave with), gave them a dictation, literally 10 lines.
      AND SHOCK! a 12-year-old child - a blogger (almost a journalist) in almost every word has 1 - 2 mistakes !! I don’t remember what it was, but there was a 5-letter word - there were 3 mistakes !!!
      Needless to say, bloggers .... (further quote from S. Lavrov).
    6. SHURUM -BURUM
      SHURUM -BURUM 13 January 2022 06: 53
      +1
      "... We want results - we need to act."
      We are not here, but the orderlies must act. Especially with regard to aftora, which has no analogues in the world of a mountain of poop, which is in the photo.
  2. Far B
    Far B 12 January 2022 05: 53
    +25
    Previously, when culture was controlled by the state, only an appropriately prepared person could appear on the stage.
    This is the difference. To let such a thing as culture run its course is utter folly.
    As for Roman's proposal, it is more "for" than "against". There is only one "but": the electronic reception room can at least fill up with millions of letters - there will be no sense if they were written by lonely aunts Klava and uncles Vasya. They will simply not be paid attention to. As for me, you need to create a petition with hundreds (thousands, tens of thousands) of signatures. This will have an effect faster (although not a fact - they simply put a bolt on the petition for pension and somersaults; however, it's worth a try). And, by the way, the Constitution also contains such a fundamental article: "... the only source of power in the Russian Federation is its multinational people. The people exercise their power directly, as well as (that is - secondary) through state authorities and local self-government bodies. ”For some reason, it is not customary for us to remember this article of the Constitution.
    And I really liked this proposal of the author:
    if someone knows his State Duma deputy and knocks on his head, he will have a separate respect
    Great thought! It's a pity that this is persecuted by law crying
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 12 January 2022 07: 03
      +21
      Create a drink? -And in the process you do not want to receive a criminal offense for subversive activity, and it is absolutely legal and patriotic. What is the legal way of influencing the government? Everything is already forbidden, but the fact that they deigned to leave it for an extremely long time, is dreary and ineffective from the word in general. You can still walk along the entrance on the quiet, and if you hang an advertisement on the door about collecting signatures, the policemen will come with their uncles from the mayor's office and hurt you.
      1. Ingenegr
        Ingenegr 12 January 2022 09: 11
        +17
        Quote: evgen1221
        Create a drink?

        PETITION.
        Quote: evgen1221
        subversive activity

        Activity.
        Quote: evgen1221
        walk on the sly

        On the quiet.
        Quote: evgen1221
        collection announcement

        Collection Announcement ...
        These are spelling mistakes only. The grammatical ones are not indicated, since there are multiples of them.
        Is it a learning problem or a principled position - "I write as I want"?
        1. evgen1221
          evgen1221 12 January 2022 09: 18
          .
          And this is a favorite trick to shut your mouth by making your opponent guilty ??? An ancient method of manipulation, like a mammoth turd, when, in fact, there is nothing to say but hotzz, nitpicking about everything except the essence is used, spelling is the simplest and most relaxed for brains not burdened with thought processes. In fact, there is something to refute? -No-free uncle!
          1. maximaniak
            maximaniak 12 January 2022 10: 11
            +16
            Just an illiterate speech is a sign of a dull mind and disrespect. Anything said in this way immediately becomes negative and untrustworthy.
            1. evgen1221
              evgen1221 12 January 2022 10: 37
              .
              Ok, and how many generally recognized but bone-speaking citizens were there in history? Plus, when judging an opponent, do not forget about the T9, which, in conjunction with the keyboard on the smartphone, creates miracles. In addition, when we read the text, do we try to understand the meaning of what is said, or do we stupidly read the letters?
              1. victor50
                victor50 12 January 2022 13: 30
                +3
                Quote: evgen1221
                In addition, when we read the text, do we try to understand the meaning of what is said, or do we stupidly read the letters?

                Where does the point come from if you can't even write ?!
            2. V means B
              V means B 14 January 2022 12: 39
              0
              Or maybe just a head injury (this is not said in offense).
          2. victor50
            victor50 12 January 2022 12: 25
            +9
            Quote: evgen1221
            nagging about everything in the world except the essence is used, spelling is the simplest and most stress-free for the brain

            Obviously not for yours! Everyone can be wrong, but I'm sorry, it's impossible to read you! Begins to vomit.
            1. evgen1221
              evgen1221 12 January 2022 13: 25
              -9
              So don't read, what's the problem!)))
              1. victor50
                victor50 12 January 2022 13: 28
                +3
                Quote: evgen1221
                So don't read, what's the problem!)))

                and YOU highlighted it in red so that everyone could see your illiteracy and did not try to read it! But until YOU have done this, and it is unlikely that you will be able to, I will be guided by the nickname. Till. Writer.... negative
                1. evgen1221
                  evgen1221 12 January 2022 14: 36
                  -9
                  As long as ours is your Excellency!
              2. Zakirov Damir
                Zakirov Damir 13 January 2022 00: 53
                +1
                Do not pay attention and your case is not the most neglected option. It happens worse, but less often!
        2. victor50
          victor50 12 January 2022 12: 23
          +1
          Quote: Ingenegr
          These are spelling mistakes only. The grammatical ones are not indicated, since there are multiples of them.
          Is it a learning problem or a principled position - "I write as I want"?

          there is also about the "criminal offense", apparently, a criminal case, also fun. The man seems to have been brought up and educated on modern TV shows.
          1. evgen1221
            evgen1221 12 January 2022 14: 38
            -8
            And you try, just report on the results, how quickly and without problems you did it.
    2. Woodman
      Woodman 12 January 2022 12: 21
      0
      Quote: Dalny V
      This is the difference. To let such a thing as culture run its course is utter folly.

      And I have always advocated censorship) Without censorship, you cannot get rid of Morgensterns (by the way, I hear a lot about it, but have never seen it).
      1. El Chuvachino
        El Chuvachino 12 January 2022 16: 30
        +3
        A rare but true position. At the very least, censorship has always helped to filter out the unnecessary and unnecessary. For example, our best Soviet films, many of which cannot be surpassed all over the world, were made under Soviet censorship - this did not prevent them from becoming masterpieces for all time.
  3. samarin1969
    samarin1969 12 January 2022 06: 03
    +10
    that this country is worth fighting for, if only for the sake of grandchildren-great-grandchildren - there is a trench, I'm already in it, come in.

    A sensible offer. And the "existential" "in the spirit" of Skomorokhov - I liked it. I was in my trenchless "trench" yesterday, I'll be there in a couple of hours. While we are "surrounded" and we are hopelessly "retreating". request
    Maybe the last "Red alert" march for "Just a light in the window" will be successful ... soldier
  4. Gato
    Gato 12 January 2022 06: 07
    +46
    It is not the minister, the education system, or even the president that needs to be changed. The social system must be changed. All the rest is scooping up water from a sinking ship with a teaspoon.
    1. Nikolay1987
      Nikolay1987 12 January 2022 07: 10
      +13
      Right now I'm trying to imagine how one person, even as a minister, is trying to improve / change / defeat the System. Wait, processing is in progress ... laughing
    2. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich 12 January 2022 07: 39
      +8
      Quote: Gato
      It is not the minister, the education system, or even the president that needs to be changed. The social system must be changed. All the rest is scooping up water from a sinking ship with a teaspoon.


      you are absolutely right.

      we observe this change around us.

      however, systems, including social ones, cannot "change themselves" from the foundation.

      in place of this they develop, reach their peak and collapse in order to give place to a new round.

      unfortunately there is no other way. look at the path that all civilizations have traveled before us.
      Of course, it's unpleasant to live in during the crash, but what can you do?
    3. victor50
      victor50 12 January 2022 12: 27
      +3
      Quote: Gato
      It is not the minister, the education system, or even the president that needs to be changed. The social system must be changed.

      I agree, but education can be seriously corrected even with this system. There would be a will
      1. Gato
        Gato 12 January 2022 12: 48
        +4
        Of course it is possible. But for a short time, then again everything will be "optimized" for the education of a stupid consumer.
        1. victor50
          victor50 12 January 2022 12: 51
          +1
          Quote: Gato
          Of course it is possible. But for a short time, then again everything will be "optimized" for the education of a stupid consumer.

          This is the main thing. If this is the goal, then it will not be possible to carry out positive changes for a long period.
    4. El Chuvachino
      El Chuvachino 12 January 2022 16: 31
      +1
      This is going in circles. To change the order, those who will make these changes are needed.
      1. Gato
        Gato 12 January 2022 20: 03
        0
        To change the order, those who will make these changes are needed.

        It's true. There is nothing even remotely reminiscent of the RSDLP (b) on the horizon.
  5. samarin1969
    samarin1969 12 January 2022 06: 14
    +14
    Russian education out of the quagmire where Messrs. Filippov, Fursenko, Livanov (especially) drove it, and even with God's help, Vasilyeva is not doing very well.

    I didn't quite understand Roman's "intelligence data". The system administrator Sergei Sergeevich Neskalozub has been appointed the current Mekhlis. God-loving Mrs. Vasilyeva has been writing her life-memoirs for a long time. Nowadays education is being intensively digitalized. And this process of degradation of knowledge was taken under international control by PISA.
    1. Far B
      Far B 12 January 2022 06: 21
      +13
      this process of degradation of knowledge was taken under international control by PISA
      Tady formed a bold PISec (well, could not pass by).
      1. samarin1969
        samarin1969 12 January 2022 06: 33
        +15
        Quote: Far In
        this process of degradation of knowledge was taken under international control by PISA
        Tady formed a bold PISec (well, could not pass by).


        hi I also "played around" in my thoughts with this abbreviation. But as the owner of the "black dan" in bans, he was afraid of the "grave police" in the VO. laughing
        1. Far B
          Far B 12 January 2022 06: 58
          +7
          No, well, PISec - is it such an animal, northern, fur-bearing, Chotakova? Look, even the name in Latin.
          1. Dimy4
            Dimy4 12 January 2022 08: 27
            +9
            No, well, PISec - is it such an animal, northern, fur-bearing, Chotakova? Look, even the name in Latin.

            For you, he is an animal, but the moderators are spoiled by the nature of their activity so much that they see swearing and vulgarity everywhere.
  6. Ravik
    Ravik 12 January 2022 06: 25
    +10
    There will be a general petition - I will sign.
  7. KKND
    KKND 12 January 2022 06: 40
    +15
    "Today you are listening to Morgenstern (dancing jazz), and tomorrow you will sell your homeland!" - an evil Soviet political instructor.
    This song is about bad youth for many thousands of years. But it works. Parents always want to moan about problem youth. Now, thanks to the Internet, Roman will now be able to monetize the whining by "spreading" older people into a bunch of comments.
    They also whined at the Beatles, even in the USA, for their propaganda of LSD, and now they are "classics", they are studied in conservatories.
    Morgenstern is a man of his time, he turns to the thoughts of young people.
    Young people are not as stupid as they seem.
    Now a young man, without connections, thinks about his future. And what does he see? Factories are ruins everywhere, all warm places have long been occupied by pull. Yes, there is a lot of work, only there you will be "loved" in all places and for very modest money. Not even all migrant workers agree to such conditions.
    Of course, if you are a genius, then all the doors are open for you, but if you do not enter this percentage of geniuses, God didn’t give you? So the way remains: to steal, to deceive, to shoot a stupid video, to dissolve. Everything that Morgenstern sings about.
    Now about Savvateev. Excerpt from Wikipedia.
    After graduating from NES, he was a junior researcher at CEMI RAS, where in 2003 he defended his thesis for the degree of candidate of economic sciences on the topic "Modeling lobbying and corruption in economies in transition" (specialty - 08.00.13 "mathematical and instrumental methods of economics") [15 ].

    In 2005, he became a laureate of the Ovsievich Prize (II prize) "for his work on mathematical modeling of corruption associated with tax evasion" [16].

    You can see for yourself what important and complex work in mathematics this gentleman has.
    Basically, he is engaged in traveling around the country and explaining math to people who do not understand anything at all, recording the process on video, and then uploading these videos on Youtube, earning on advertising, just like Morgenstern, earning on his videos, on Youtube.
    This he calls the popularization of mathematics.
    Also, Mr. Savvateev was noticed for criticizing the modern education system in the Russian Federation.
    Same
    In the elections to the State Duma of the Russian Federation in 2021, he was nominated from the New People party in 219 single-mandate constituencies (the city of Sevastopol).

    Without a doubt, he has money from advertising from Youtube.
    Draw conclusions, ladies and gentlemen in the VO.
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 12 January 2022 08: 08
      +6
      Quote: KKND
      This song is about bad youth for many thousands of years. But it works. Parents always want to moan about problem youth.

      If we are to be completely objective, then let's remember everything as it really was. The same Khelavis (Nikolaev) mentioned in the article is the most striking example of people from informal movements. She emerged from the Tolkienists, by the way. For the 90s like the rules, but for the 80s ??? How would her work and image be perceived under Andropov, for example?
      The aforementioned Garik Sukachev was expelled in disgrace from "Merry Fellows" with the wording "for lack of vocal data." I can't even imagine how it was necessary to cut it out of this hotbed. So everything has its time.
      My youngest is still in her fourth year, a future programmer, she knows English perfectly since school. No language courses, etc. did not pass. But not only that. I independently studied Japanese (and there, for a minute, only five alphabets) - writes, reads (speaks poorly, practice is not enough), translates songs from Japanese first into English, then from it into Russian. But we are also a child of the Unified State Exam, and my wife and I work hard from morning to night, we didn’t have to do it when it was. Those who have heard modern Japanese youth songs will not be afraid of either Morgenstern or Cord. So everything has its time. Fathers and children in a modern way.
      1. KKND
        KKND 12 January 2022 08: 26
        +10
        Quote: NDR-791
        My youngest is still in her fourth year, a future programmer, she knows English perfectly since school. No language courses, etc. did not pass. But not only that.

        To become a programmer you need to program in practice for 10-15 years. Studying at the best university does not mean anything at all, no one will pay money for simple programs. There are very few women among those who really work in the specialty of programmers, a profession that is too complex for the brain.
        All young people now know English one way or another because of the Internet, but knowledge of Japanese is really rare.
        Of course, many parents think that their children are the best.
        Reality is often more complex and harsh.
        This I mean that you are more careful there. Although, should I give advice?
        1. NDR-791
          NDR-791 12 January 2022 09: 54
          +3
          Quote: KKND
          Of course, many parents think that their children are the best.

          laughing It happens. It's just not the first attempt, the eldest 32, electronics engineer. Does not live in poverty.
          There are very few women among those who really work in the specialty of programmers, a profession that is too complex for the brain.

          We are the whole family of "techies", probably so the brain was brought up in my daughter from the very beginning. "Entertaining mathematics" by Perelman is not included in the school curriculum now, and neither is Vinogradov-Kuzmin's "Logic". At home they gave what they could, what they themselves learned, how they taught us. Now here's the Defense soon, only three out of the entire group of 27 people graduate from the entire group of XNUMX ... two of them are girls. How so ???
        2. ViacheslavS
          ViacheslavS 12 January 2022 11: 11
          +1
          To become a programmer you need to program in practice for 10-15 years.

          What kind of programmer are you talking about, Junior / Middle / Senior / Team Leader / Technical leader and so on? From a junior developer, no one expects not only 10 years of experience, in principle, something more than student "pet" projects.

          There are very few women among those who really work in the specialty of programmers, a profession that is too complex for the brain.


          Of course, I am pleased when our profession is considered something unique or difficult for the brain, but it is nothing more difficult for the brain than teaching the same mathematics in any university, and there are a lot of women there. Moreover, most of the programming is routine to support the old "legacy", analysis of support cases, fix bugs. Even in such areas as the development of the OS kernel, DBMS kernel, recognition systems, etc., most of the time is a boring routine. And there are enough women, but a woman has such a "nuance" they tend to get pregnant, go on maternity leave, drop out of their careers.

          All young people now know English one way or another because of the Internet,

          In order to communicate and read more or less freely, you still need to make an effort to learn the language, and to watch movies freely, you need to work hard enough.
          1. vadimtt
            vadimtt 13 January 2022 10: 10
            0
            Looking at what is happening now in programming, I come to the conclusion that it is better to be an expert in the subject area and a "cat-coder" (a typical field is a diplomat) than a "coolhacker-level god" and nifiga not to understand the subject matter laughing
            But this is not always the case, in large corporations it is different, the structure of the state allows.
            1. PARTY
              PARTY 13 January 2022 17: 36
              0
              Looking at what is happening now in programming, I come to the conclusion that it is better to be an expert in the subject area and a "cat-coder" (a typical field is a diplomat) than a "coolhacker-level god" and nifiga not to understand the subject matter

              "Bydlocoder" is more about forms on the frontend than about ML \ DL.
              1. ViacheslavS
                ViacheslavS 19 January 2022 12: 47
                0
                And what makes ML\DL very different is that ready-made frameworks are taken and “trained” to the desired result. And now such a zoo of technologies has been turned up on the front-end, that specialists who can rake all this are often offered more money than in ML.
      2. Far B
        Far B 12 January 2022 09: 03
        +4
        I independently studied Japanese (and there, for a minute, there were only five alphabets
        There are two alphabets - katakana (not a sword!) And hirakana (not a mate!)
  8. avia12005
    avia12005 12 January 2022 06: 47
    +12
    The most important thing is that such stupid ones are beginning to be completed and are already being completed by management structures, including at the federal level.
  9. evgen1221
    evgen1221 12 January 2022 06: 57
    +12
    This is definitely an article in nothing. Labrodor from Nautilus, is there a lot of meaning in the text? But the tune is not bad and does not sound tense. Nravitzzo. Himself from the 80s as long as I remember myself during the union, I literally fell asleep from the concerts of pop masters such as Tolkunova and others on big holidays performing on the stage on TV. Now I understand that those songs were not bad, but the presentation by the officialdom, the design of all this caused wild boredom. Young people always like something that is unusual in comparison with the general background, and so in everything, always and everywhere. This gives impetus to experiment, to move on. If it were not for this movement, then you would conventionally not listen to Pugachev, but would continue to howl at the moon or church psolms to the best of your vocal abilities. But no, we are urapatriotic to Sandra, ABVU, The Beatles and Metallica listening with pleasure)))) And the author of the article will not tell you a legal and sanctioned way to convey to the authorities in the Russian Federation at least our needs and problems as a people, with a guarantee that they will hear? It's kind of patriotic in our country for a meeting of more than three people, an administrative woman with a criminal code arrives.
    1. Jonny_Su
      Jonny_Su 12 January 2022 07: 51
      +13
      Thank you for reminding me. I urge the author to re-listen to the early albums of Russian rock and through howling, tongue twisters and mockery to find a deep patriotic meaning.
  10. alex51217
    alex51217 12 January 2022 07: 11
    +8
    The author is right, we must act for the sake of our grandchildren
  11. sergo1914
    sergo1914 12 January 2022 07: 12
    +1
    What was that?
  12. Van 16
    Van 16 12 January 2022 07: 25
    +9
    This is called - about painful. Great respect to Roman, I support him on all counts. Including for the listed personalities (Galanin, Shevchuk, Helavisa, Chancellor Guy, etc.). Everything in the article is absolutely to the point.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 12 January 2022 07: 40
      +3
      Chancellor Guy



      This song makes sense.
      1. depressant
        depressant 12 January 2022 11: 15
        +2
        Thanks! Thank you dear Gardamir! love love love .
      2. ALARI
        ALARI 12 January 2022 11: 46
        +3
        And not only in this song with her.
  13. Eug
    Eug 12 January 2022 07: 47
    +12
    First, success in society and self-realization in the minds of adolescents are in no way associated with work and its kind - study. Second, it is easier to lower the bar than to teach something, and this is done with cries about the "freedom" of the student. Third, the educational system has been assigned the task of "raising literate consumers", but even in this misunderstanding, the word "literate" dropped out. Fourth, could it be otherwise in a system where education is a service and the process of upbringing is removed from the content of this service? And fifth - who needs all this, is it convenient and profitable? The answer is to the powers that be, if they "float" society and intend to continue to do so ... The task of mass "education" is to prevent potential competitors from accessing "social lifts", selecting only "their own" ..
    PS I personally really like Savvateev's lectures and videos. Hope my son will like it too.
  14. Jonny_Su
    Jonny_Su 12 January 2022 07: 48
    .
    You shouldn't be talking about clay, clay on the embankment of the Vodootvodny Canal in Moscow is a cool street sculpture. She is not tense, it is pleasant to rest near her, she does not call for anything and does not teach anything, thank God.
    And the lack of a loaded meaning in the lyrics is such a style, I heard that Western music also has problems with this - people wonder how they can sing along with it.
    Savvateev can be promoted, which is not a bad idea in itself, apart from the fight against windmills, rappers and clay on the waterfront.
    1. sagitovich
      sagitovich 12 January 2022 08: 15
      +12
      cool street sculpture. She is not tense, it is pleasant to rest near her, she does not call for anything and does not teach anything,
      In that case, why is it needed at all?
      1. Jonny_Su
        Jonny_Su 12 January 2022 09: 09
        -8
        As I wrote above, it’s nice to just be next to her, relax, sit on a bench. Friendly sculpture, now there are few of them.
        1. sagitovich
          sagitovich 12 January 2022 11: 29
          0
          It seems to me that under any sculpture you can sit and relax safely, no matter what the statue, even Stalin, even Cheburashka. Well this is all history that cannot be changed.
          1. Jonny_Su
            Jonny_Su 12 January 2022 12: 38
            -3
            Yes, you can safely))
            But here it is of particular value that the sculpture does not carry a clear message (Stalin will strain many, Cheburashka will call for something too). When everyone around is calling and promoting their agenda, at work, in the media, even on Topvar, they are taught to raise children, such simply friendly abstract sculptures make sense. Come and try it yourself.
    2. Karabin
      Karabin 12 January 2022 20: 09
      +1
      Quote: Jonny_Su
      She is not tense, it is pleasant to rest near her, she does not call for anything and does not teach anything,

      And also does not resemble anything and costs nothing. laughing
      1. Jonny_Su
        Jonny_Su 13 January 2022 00: 13
        0
        This is contemporary art that works. I was minded here for my personal opinion, which appeared from the sculpture up close. And I just urge everyone to come to Moscow to the GES2 museum and sit next to this clay, and only then scold. In the photo, she looks strange, but live the sensations are completely different.
  15. Lykases1
    Lykases1 12 January 2022 08: 17
    +11
    Roman, it seems to me that you are somehow too emotional in this article. I remember the streets of the city were walked by "rappers", "acid workers", then "emo" appeared, some other antichrists all walked in black. So what? Now they live their normal lives. Nothing terrible happened to them. Well, they listen to Morgenstern, I don't know how, so what? For example, I love the "Gas Sector". Someone can also say, but what does he teach? And in these songs, even the Klinsky's Voronezh accent pleases my ear. So what happened to me? He did not become a scientist, did not make any breakthroughs. I live, as probably the majority in our country. I go to work, earn money, provide for my family. Probably nothing will happen to young people. Someone will become a scientist, there will be someone to stand at the machine, someone will get drunk, someone will go to the panel. This is life and it has always been so.
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 12 January 2022 09: 26
      +12
      Quote: Lykases1
      He did not become a scientist, did not make any breakthroughs. I live, as probably the majority in our country. I go to work, earn money, provide for my family. Probably nothing will happen to young people.

      It may not happen, only those who get drunk or go to the panel will increase. The lack of quality always develops into an increased number of defects. The marriage of human consciousness is not the most pleasant thing. Remember:

      Now ask yourself the question, what did they drag themselves into the "empty attic" with than those who filled it:
      Quote: Lykases1
      Someone will drink, someone will go to the panel.

      Your words about:
      Quote: Lykases1
      This is life and it has always been so.

      can be refuted. but you can just refer to the article by Roman Skomorokhov and think if everything is so cloudless and harmless? As there in Ukraine SUDDENLY, for no reason at all, they decided to take torches in their hands and declare them a Nazi hero ...
      1. Lykases1
        Lykases1 12 January 2022 09: 56
        +2
        That we are not cloudless, I quite understand. But that everything was lost, I strongly disagree. And the events in Ukraine and Kazakhstan, I suppose, did not originate from a lack of education. For the population to begin to riot, other reasons are probably needed. And it is possible that economic.
      2. your1970
        your1970 13 January 2022 18: 29
        +1
        Quote: yuriy55
        It may not happen, only those who get drunk or go to the panel will increase.

        Then, in our country, there can be no teetotalis in principle ... almost all rockers sang about booze
        One Gas Sector was worth ...
        1. yuriy55
          yuriy55 13 January 2022 18: 41
          0
          Quote: your1970
          Then, in our country, there can be no teetotalis in principle ... almost all rockers sang about booze

          yes
          I met non-drinkers ... They turned out to be such bad people. What is there to go far - the same HMS.
          ==========
          Alcoholism is a great grief. Fate saved, never toiled with a hangover. Even the funniest events (weddings, seeing off to the army, returning from the army, etc.) - no more than two days ... Then the body simply does not accept ...
          Now I practically do not drink, except for 0,5 beer per hunt, in the summer ... And the summer in Siberia is short.
          hi
    2. evgen1221
      evgen1221 12 January 2022 09: 27
      -3
      I support. Young people like what's new and without it there will be no progress at all. Does the author call for this? We went through this in a scoop, a continuous soar with scoops and our steering party and thinks for us. Toto, all Western hits on any beach were sold out and it was more fun and more productive in terms of demographics to make friends with girls under their Mouzon)))) than under an eaglet approved by 33 racial purity commissions.
    3. El Chuvachino
      El Chuvachino 12 January 2022 16: 39
      +4
      Not so simple. I had experience in teaching with children and 10 years ago there were no alarm bells, but a real problem. Now this is the scale of the catastrophe. I'm talking about how children and adolescents are now unable to form their own not only speech, but even a mental process. Complex schemes don't line up. The standard answer to the simplest question is “I don’t know”. In the topic about May 9, teenagers 12 years old cannot answer what an order is and what they were given out for. You call your parents to discuss it, and they clap their eyes, they say, how so. They don't recognize their child in action, but at school "everything is fine." Why am I all this, you ask? And to the fact that now the network, its filling and access to it are finished off by unformed consciousnesses, turning them into those very blockheads of Oorfene Deuce. In tiktok, they sit down on dopamine loops and repeat any game harmful to the psyche and real health. In music, thanks to all sorts of Morgensterns, they do not learn for themselves anything that can be useful in life for normal people. Only decomposition. We all need to do something with this and urgently, even "yesterday".
      1. Lykases1
        Lykases1 12 January 2022 18: 13
        -1
        I agree with you in many ways, but if you look from the other side. My grandfather studied well at school, lived in a village, and worked on a collective farm. Plus he knew how to build village "five walls", "crosses". That is, to work with an ax, so to speak. My father studied just as well, but he no longer knew how to work with wood. At this time, a technique appeared in personal use, he understood the pieces of iron. I already did worse. My skills are much worse. My daughter has knowledge and skills much worse than me. Or is it evolution? In the form of a kind of degradation of knowledge. For example, I was taught to count in my head. Because it was possible to kill with a Soviet calculator at that time. Now he is in every phone. Well, etc. Why learn something if the information is on the Internet. Yes, this is alarming. But this is happening not only in our country, it is a worldwide problem. If the Soviet education system is returned, what will it change? In this case, it is necessary to change both the legislation and the entire system. For example, before teachers were afraid and respected. It was elementary to get it on the forehead with a pointer. And this was not considered a tragedy. And now? The law on the side of the child and the Internet fill the videos, how they mock teachers. In the comments above, they wrote to me that a low level of education contributes, among other things, to the growth of alcoholism and prostitution. Or maybe this is facilitated by the abolition of compulsory treatment and the lack of terms for prostitution? Not everything is so simple and not everything is so critical. Sorry for the verbosity.
  16. Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 12 January 2022 08: 22
    +16
    Oh yeah! We will change ministers from culture and education, and the Milokhin, Mongersterns, Instasamki, etc. will disappear. And so on, Instagram ticks and various blogs will disappear .. I advise the author to read the story of A. Averchenko "The Incurable", written more than 100 years ago, but still relevant in our time. "You will understand everything and you will see everything there." (With)
  17. Wertgan
    Wertgan 12 January 2022 08: 30
    0
    Eh Roman, Roman ... And I could write theoretically and politically competently about the competition of nations, about the new format of wars (information) that we are losing, could call for a second referendum to abolish the colonial articles of the Constitution. But Roman again leads the readers in a circle. Leads them to a dead end ... If the blind leads the blind, then both will fall into the pit.
    1. ada
      ada 16 January 2022 00: 49
      0
      Quote: WertGan
      Eh Roman, Roman ... And I could write theoretically and politically competently about the competition of nations, about the new format of wars (information) that we are losing, could call for a second referendum to abolish the colonial articles of the Constitution. But Roman again leads the readers in a circle. Leads them to a dead end ... If the blind leads the blind, then both will fall into the pit.


      I want to support you. Could you write? Probably not. They fed, but undereducated, taught, but undereducated. And in my opinion, this is some result of the wars of nations, peoples, communities. War - a natural stage in the struggle of opposites, no matter how organized it is, pursues in the minds of the goal of humiliation, coercion and destruction of one by the other. They could not kill our community in the Second World War, but they inflicted a mortal wound. There were not enough educators for subsequent generations - they were killed, tortured, died of wounds and diseases, exhausted by overwork. The rest gave up.
      "Competition" - what a word caressing the ear of economists and politicians, and the phrase - "healthy competition", is simply a masterpiece of inventions, but in fact - the intersection of courses, directions, and in the relations of people - their aspirations, interests, predetermines their clash and struggle up to destruction and nothing more. Like it or not - a word of Western cultivation. And this is their way. To somewhat soften the formation of relations, a rather modern, somewhat pacifying word "competition" is called upon, only against competitors - this is a defeat, because (not said by Ostap) Si vis pacem, para bellum.
      Correction of the basic law - on a permanent periodic basis, and if necessary, immediately, by universal open voting. Ideology in the basic law. The main elective positions - by open voting, mandatory public reporting and mandatory criminal prosecution based on the results of their activities based on the results of subsequent regular or early elections from the president to deputies. On the electoral ticket: 1. Justified the trust of the people. Worthy of being chosen in the future. 2. Did not justify the trust of the people. Not worthy to be elected henceforth. 3. Despised the trust of the people. Subject to trial as a traitor to the motherland. Further. The investigation, the court (there are enough organs) makes a decision, describes the situations that led to such a result, but it is not within the right to change the result of the vote - who will be re-elected, who will never be a candidate again, and who will be sentenced to life, a loner, interrogations and forceful suppression of suicide. You look and trample on education, and the dialogue between the state and the people will improve, the "cook" will grab the wheel of the state herself.
  18. Woodman
    Woodman 12 January 2022 08: 36
    +2
    You saw this horror too. Our, Novovoronezh Alenka.
    Alyonka seems to have been removed from sight. On federal channels, they showed and spoke in about the same way as the author, in the style - how did the local administration allow such squalor to be established?
    PS
    And it is my responsibility to write, as noted in my job description. Search for topics and work out.
    Perhaps the author's resentment against commentators stems from a misunderstanding that some commentators consider the topics covered insufficiently developed. Hence the advice.
    And yes, once again, I want to remind you that it would be interesting to read the material promised by the author, the terms for which have been shifted by almost a year ...
  19. Ksanatos
    Ksanatos 12 January 2022 08: 48
    .
    Author, bring up your children as you know, and that's enough for you.
  20. Doccor18
    Doccor18 12 January 2022 08: 48
    +10
    Alexander Vladimirovich Savvateev is able to pull Russian education out of that quagmire ...

    Do you seriously think that one person can change the system?
    Even as the president of the state, this is beyond the power of one person. Who will allow you to change something? The people who destroyed the People's Union grabbed everything and everyone ..? Do you want to change the paperwork system?
    And let's not argue that our state is doing nothing in this regard. He, the state, simply does not care. Will not it, the state, destroy Business, which is sacred for the "Schmorgenshtyrns"?

    No, for the state, just, it is very useful to mortify generations. Fools are easier to manage, it is common knowledge. That is why "Shtyrny" is very useful.
    You wrote everything yourself.
    What we can really do is try to devote more time to our children and grandchildren. Teach them, tell and show them, let them listen to other music (what if they catch on), just talk to them. We can really do this, and this work will definitely not be in vain. And scribble petitions. Where? There? And it’s naive, in my opinion, to wait for a brilliant leader to come and turn the story back.
  21. yuriy55
    yuriy55 12 January 2022 08: 57
    +8
    Novel! You write:
    ... do not worry, soon it will be fine with such writers who can convey something to the reader in Russian. In the sense - will end.

    And I can tell you that soon the users who can convey their own thoughts in Russian (using Russian words) to others on the VO website will also be over ... "Feney" ...
    The administration of the site has the opportunity to put things in order in the writing of messages without the participation of the president and members of the United Russia party.
    I suggest:
    1. Return the flags defining the nationality of the user. For those who are “embarrassed” to be identified, offer a neutral white flag.
    2. Users who do not have a positive reputation are prohibited from (technically) giving ratings to other users.
    3. Reveal the anonymity of the "ruling" rating.
    We want results - we need to act.

    Let's take the first step here. Maybe some will understand that the red squiggly line means something is wrong with your message. That auto-proofreader reminds you that, at least, to create a petition:
    Quote: evgen1221
    Create a drink?

    you need to know how to spell this word ...
    hi
    1. El Chuvachino
      El Chuvachino 12 January 2022 16: 42
      0
      There is a problem with the first point. VPN now solves this issue very easily. But in general, I agree with the message - I would like to see who puts the pros and cons, since sometimes it is not always possible to get a clear argumentation of the position, as well as to make sure that this does not happen systematically.

      Quote: yuriy55
      you need to know how to spell this word ...

      The other day I was here as a potential fascist was written down with persistent hints that I should write correctly. And literally.
      1. vadimtt
        vadimtt 13 January 2022 10: 15
        0
        Well, "Grammar Nazi" did not appear out of the blue laughing
  22. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 12 January 2022 09: 14
    +4
    The author's sincere concern is beyond doubt. But...
    That is what the conversation is about the conflict of Fathers and children.
    Our parents were skeptical about our dancing.
    I started having intestinal cramps from the sounds of boom-boom-tarabum,
    from the son's room. Now it's his turn to feel negative.
    School. I worked a little and talked. Children are different, but most are decent and well-mannered. There were seven gold medal winners in the school last year, all guys. The school is the most ordinary.
    And in many colleges, there is now a competition for workers with an average score below four.
    Not everything is so hopeless and neglected. Although, the general level of knowledge of history, geography, in my opinion, is rather weak. But he began to differ already with his son, erudition leaves much to be desired ..., while he is a doctor and kmn.
    Roman's proposal has common sense, you can try it, I'll think about it.
  23. for
    for 12 January 2022 09: 17
    +8

    We have normal youth!
    1. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 12 January 2022 09: 51
      +4
      And the state, in which Socrates noticed this, perished.
      1. for
        for 12 January 2022 11: 44
        -1
        Quote: Mikhail3
        died.

        Well, it was not because of the youth that died.
        1. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 12 January 2022 11: 58
          +5
          The state always dies because of the citizens. Because only in the minds of citizens, and in their hands, does it exist. So, alas, it died precisely because of the youth that Socrates noticed. How the USSR died because of those who "The one who wears Adidas will surely sell his homeland." That's what they sold that)
      2. acetophenone
        acetophenone 14 January 2022 00: 07
        +1
        ALL states are dead. And those who have not yet done this are on a path that no one can turn off. recourse
        1. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 14 January 2022 09: 00
          0
          It's because we keep doing things wrong. Who does it wrong, it doesn't work out)
    2. Avior
      Avior 12 January 2022 12: 30
      +2
      It's not so easy with Socrates.
      In 399 BC. e. the philosopher was sued. The general formula of the accusation sounded like: "Socrates is guilty of not honoring the gods that the city honors, but is introducing new deities, and is guilty of corrupting youth." The responsibility for the actions of his disciples Alcibiades, Cretius and others was transferred to Socrates. The citizens of Athens associated their names with defeat in the Peloponnesian War against Sparta and the bloody rule of the "Thirty Tyrants".

      At the trial, as you know, the jury in the number of 500 people gave him a "watchtower".
      hi
      1. for
        for 12 January 2022 13: 35
        -1
        Quote: Avior
        It's not so easy with Socrates.

        It is not a matter of Socrates, or somehow the entire older generation of all times and peoples speaks like this. Senile grumbling is and will be. The generation of sterns will also grumble.
  24. Freedim
    Freedim 12 January 2022 09: 28
    +6
    Nothing changed.
    There used to be completely different music
    We used to listen to beautiful singing
    Now I'm trying my daddy's patience

    (c) Naw 1985

    shl. As the glavlita of the USSR, I do not have enough to stop this trash climbing from all cracks. Who will tell me why it is impossible to go to a restaurant in a "torn T-shirt and sweatpants", but to the soul, with all their lack of creativity, is it possible?
  25. for
    for 12 January 2022 09: 29
    +1
    The trouble is not in Morgenstern's listeners, but in some amateurs to prohibit without giving anything in return.
    1. Shiden
      Shiden 12 January 2022 11: 34
      +2
      You know, I’ve already hit fifty, but for the sake of interest I found Morgenstern on YouTube, and I couldn’t stand one mate for a minute. Since I’m a resident of Ukraine, I understand why such slag as Milokhovs and Morgenstein is not allowed into my country. I don’t know how the author claims that everyone can read a REP, and there is no need for talent, so I can listen to Ukrainian performers Alena Alena, for example, and it doesn’t cause rejection in me. Maybe because the text has meaning. And if it makes sense, then you can think about your life.
  26. Prometheus
    Prometheus 12 January 2022 09: 41
    +2
    it was Alexander Vladimirovich Savvateev

    Alexey Savvateev.
  27. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 12 January 2022 09: 47
    +4
    Cool text) You can, of course, refer to
    Running around the prosecutor’s offices, as some “those who are well versed in life” pointed out to me again, this is not my responsibility.
    This is not our duty, author) We have a whole Ministry of Culture, where incredibly generously paid figures from the treasury work powerfully. But this is not necessary.
    The point is, we are really smart. I don’t know why the author himself ignored all Soviet education, but we don’t). Morgenstern is a consequence. not a reason. To fight against him with petitions), like English weavers against "wide" looms, is just as stupid as this activity of unfortunate weavers.
    We listened to different music because we were trained in a fundamentally different way, and we had a future. Which did not come true, but while we were young and active, we had it. And today's youth have no education at all. Only primitive training. And they have no future. Nothing good awaits them there if they were born incorrectly, or are not ready to kill for a piece. Therefore, they listen to music that reflects them. Music without a future. And by removing Morgenstern, we will be exactly what we look like - elderly, stupid clowns doing nonsense. We do not want.
    And further. We will be clowns, not the author. The author sees it as his duty to incite others. He himself does not have to. Where have I seen this recently?)
    1. t-12
      t-12 12 January 2022 21: 18
      0
      Therefore, they listen to music that reflects them.

      There is a dialectic here: music reflects and, at the same time, forms. So the petition (aimed not so much at the resignation of the minister as at uniting the opponents of the current culture) is one of the methods of action.
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 13 January 2022 08: 57
        +1
        That is, appearing with a stake for a shootout is your belief. It was prudent, with such ideas, to choose a "battlefield". In a real fight, they will kill, and even laugh enough ...
        1. t-12
          t-12 13 January 2022 11: 38
          0
          Well, first of all, there hasn't been a shootout yet. The government accepts criticism quite calmly. The requirements of the petition are unlikely to be fulfilled, but those who signed the petition will not be hanged or imprisoned.

          Secondly, even desperate revolutionaries (like the Bolsheviks) did not disdain to use peaceful and boring methods (like the same petitions). But then, unlike now, for a petition they could be sent to hard labor.
    2. your1970
      your1970 13 January 2022 18: 47
      0
      Quote: Mikhail3
      ... And they have no future. Nothing good awaits them there if they were born incorrectly, or are not ready to kill for a piece.

      The only question - such training as we have - all over the world for a very long time. But they have not degraded to the digging sticks. Such a feeling - that this is only ours, like the northerners, to alcohol.
      They removed the protection and we fell down ...
      1. Mikhail3
        Mikhail3 14 January 2022 16: 01
        +1
        Wow! Thinking man's comment! Quite a rarity these days.
        You see, unlike the insane nonsense about the "Russian" civilization, the Russian one is not over yet! And she, this very, hated by our current authorities, Russian civilization, resists. Doesn't want to die.
        Do you remember how many people were in the "Khivi" in that War? And how many traitors and just scum are around now? A bunch of people. This is because our Russian civilization is based on the best that is in man. And the best is hard. The best qualities are not easy to carry through life. People under such a load often break down, and begin to madly hate Russians and Russians. Deeply aware of their inferiority, the inability to become a real Russian person.
        Our power is great, but so are our troubles...
    3. V means B
      V means B 14 January 2022 12: 45
      -1
      Now the phrase "Ministry of Culture" even sounds somehow abusive)))
  28. Detnix
    Detnix 12 January 2022 09: 51
    +3
    So, we are writing letters to the president. Whoever sees fit, demand, ask, some, over there, record video messages on their knees on the Internet. Personally, I consider it possible to demand.

    This is childish naivety! All sorts of Filippovs, Fursenki, Livanovs, Vasilievs are only a consequence of Putinism, in a rotten system no Savvateev will help, the system can only be defeated by another system, and these are other people ...
  29. squid
    squid 12 January 2022 09: 54
    -2
    To be brief: senile grumbling
  30. Mikhail Sidorov
    Mikhail Sidorov 12 January 2022 10: 35
    +1
    It is not the minister, the education system, or even the president that needs to be changed. The social system must be changed. All the rest is scooping up water from a sinking ship with a teaspoon.

    Everything else is mouse fuss. I do not agree that it is precisely those born now 10 - 20 years old who are worse than their parents and grandfathers. Approximately the same (I communicate at work, so to speak, with ordinary people, I try to communicate a lot). What to do ... Thinking people will have to sacrifice something, most likely their career and prosperity, and devote their lives to their children - grandchildren. Agitation and propaganda based on life in the Soviet Union. A lot of material can be found. There is nothing more to push off from. Control of children - grandchildren. Total control. Start with yourself. Do not smoke. Drink almost or don't drink at all. Be the authority. A lot comes from the family, if not all. A lot of work is needed, some generations can no longer be saved. We must fight for the future.
    1. t-12
      t-12 12 January 2022 21: 22
      0
      Single handicraftsmen will almost certainly lose to professionals. This applies to both schooling and political propaganda.
  31. Klingon
    Klingon 12 January 2022 10: 39
    +2
    Good article! Here, the guys in the class had a recitative: AC / DC- KISS = Aria- Cruise! (1986, Grozny, school N41) wink but not that shit that they listen to now. But I'm glad that my son, although he was born in Germany and now he is 21 years old, is listening to Metallic and Tsoi! Megadeth and Master am
  32. ViacheslavS
    ViacheslavS 12 January 2022 10: 44
    0
    Yawning, the youth are no longer the same (s), or anything new. I saw something like this in my family, great-grandmother-> grandfather-> father-> myself-> my children, at every stage the youth was "not that", worse than in our time, so we plowed, studied, and they listen to this indecency, spend time in vain.
    But at the same time, the outlook of the modern generation is incomparably wider than that of people in the 80s and modern children (from those that I see) want to be programmers, scientists, athletes, etc.
    1. t-12
      t-12 12 January 2022 21: 24
      0
      The amount of information has increased, yes. But the quality, reliability, consistency of this information - all this has fallen sharply.
      1. ViacheslavS
        ViacheslavS 19 January 2022 12: 54
        0
        Now it is possible to check almost any information, read about the problem from different sources, find confirmation or refutation. Remember how you used to go to the library and take the TSB without any possibility to check the information in it.
  33. DMi
    DMi 12 January 2022 10: 48
    +2
    Shevchuk, Kinchev, Tsoi are the same guano as Margenstein. It's ridiculous to read how one guano is pathetically compared to another) people have always been bydlomass, now that 50 years ago. It's just that now it is more clearly visible due to the amount and availability of information, and the illustrations of this usual state for the sentient monkey.
    Yes, and Soviet Russian education is highly idealized. It would be good and the USSR would not have collapsed, and pop music with chanson would not have its fans.
  34. prior
    prior 12 January 2022 10: 48
    +6
    And why did they attack Morgenstern?
    If in our government - "shmorgenshtyrny",
    in the Duma - "shmorgenshtyrny",
    effective managers - "shmorgenshtyrny",
    officials - "shmorgenshtyrny",
    ........
    We have been building the country of "shmorgenshtyrns" for 30 years, we are all to some extent "shmorgenshtyrns",
    but for some reason we are ashamed to admit it to ourselves.
  35. Olgovich
    Olgovich 12 January 2022 11: 16
    +6
    on completely different music. On the beautiful, tasty, and most importantly - on the one that she taught.

    I will say that they listened to what they danced to at home parties of schoolchildren / students and that they got it with a frenzied overpayment (these are layers of 25-40 rubles and a magician of recording) in the 1970s (and these are not Gems at all, Hoarfrost, and "Party is our helmsman) , it :

    Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Rainbow, Nazareth, Pink Floyd, King Crimson, The Beatles, Queen, Kiss, Space, Suzy Quatro, The Rolling Stones

    And also easier: ABBA, Smokey, Rusos,, Paul Maria, Dassin, Adamo, Francois, Celentano, etc.

    From the conscientious-Zodiac Pugacheva, Time Machine

    For the soul - Vysotsky, Okudzhava, Dolsky, etc.

    and already in the family - Bernes, Utesov, Magomayev, Khil, Leshchenko, Shulzhenko, Velikanova, etc.,
  36. faterdom
    faterdom 12 January 2022 11: 18
    +3
    How can we change the newly appointed Kazakh Minister of Culture - an outspoken Russophobe?
    Swallow?
    For this, for a lot of money and very quickly, did the boards fly with our paratroopers to the Republic of Kazakhstan? So that this "minister" from a higher minaret could pour crap on them?
    Interference in internal affairs? So, after all, they have already intervened, it would be necessary not to do this as a form of charity, but it is time and conditions to adjust in their favor - otherwise the meaning escapes.
    For me personally, the life of some Tokayev-Nazarbayev is not worth the risk of the life of a Russian soldier, but the vector of politics is worth it.
    1. t-12
      t-12 12 January 2022 21: 26
      0
      The Russophobic minister will "change" by itself when an international culture appears / revives.
  37. Oleg133
    Oleg133 12 January 2022 11: 30
    -1
    1 Oligophrenics and morons also need art. Do not take this little away from them.
    2 State ideology, according to the constitution, is prohibited.

    Do you want to change the constitutional order?

    Threat
    People wanted to do the thing. Introduce the responsibility of the authorities into the constitution at a referendum.
    They planted.
  38. Mihail55
    Mihail55 12 January 2022 11: 54
    0
    Thank you, Roman! I will definitely write.
  39. Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 12 January 2022 12: 00
    +3
    1.Roman, culture is not limited only to music, what is happening apart from the so-called stage and every kind of get-together is beyond limits, here I agree one hundred percent, but theater can be added to this .. My God, the last Mohicans are leaving and what remains for us , Buzova on stage? Horror and horror, I generally keep quiet about cinematography, finding a good film shot in recent years is a huge problem! The Margensterns and the Milokhins filled everything from music to theater and cinema.
    2. Education, Vasilteva made an attempt, but alas, they removed, the current Minister of Education is a person who has not stood at the blackboard for a day .. I thought after the scandal about amending the law on education and Matviyenko's response to him, but no. To chase him with a filthy broom, in my opinion, a suitable candidate for this post is Yevgeny Yuryevich Spitsyn, a huge experience of work both at school and in a university and a person with clear views and unbending before the powers that be.
    1. Ingenegr
      Ingenegr 12 January 2022 17: 25
      0
      “We don't need smart ones. We need stupid, but faithful ones” - this is what we hear more and more often.
  40. Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 12 January 2022 12: 01
    +1
    And the building of the former kvlka, where Sukachev and Galanin studied, is now boarded up and will probably collapse soon, they came this summer to their native land in the city of Zadonsk
  41. DominickS
    DominickS 12 January 2022 12: 01
    +3
    As for the music - and now there are worthy people and groups. It's just that they are not heard. As usual, all the shit floats on the surface, and the diamonds lie on the bottom.
    "Porno Films", "Elysium", for example (the best punk rock bands in the country, in my opinion). "Yorsh", Pavel Plamenev, "Epidemia", Olga Vayner from the group "Yasvena", who wrote the magnificent rock opera "Orpheus". There are many more who can be remembered. It's just that the state doesn't care about them. We really decided to give a damn about culture.
  42. Terran ghost
    Terran ghost 12 January 2022 12: 47
    0
    Tomorrow, I assure you, no one will go for the machine. It sucks. The IT sphere, sitting at the computer or blogging - this is the ideal for many.

    - the truth is, oddly enough, when European automobile concerns opened their factories here in Russia, they perfectly recruited workers for them.
    Good wages and decent working conditions are key.
    At the same time, one must clearly understand that the need for low-skilled physical labor has been falling as technology develops, is falling and will continue to fall.
    And what's wrong with the IT sphere?
    Today's generations are consuming this trash. I cannot say otherwise.

    And most of the current "pop" will also very soon disappear into oblivion, as similar creativity left before it. Well, that is, the next generation will not be interested in all this. Perhaps the present will be remembered, but already purely succumbing to nostalgia, and not because of the very high artistic qualities that are not there.
  43. Plate
    Plate 12 January 2022 13: 00
    +2
    And I, as a representative of the "12-20" category, thought that she was listening to Smesharikov and Sabaton ...
    "From the screw!", "Panzer elite" all sorts.
    In reality, Smesharikov was somehow turned on at a disco, the crowd howled with joy when the whole street raced "Because on the plane ..."

    I need to talk about half-disdainful answers in the style of "What's the difference to you now?" I won't.

    I dare to suspect that no music is particularly listened to, because I myself was not particularly fond of this until 18. It was enough combat music played during battles and wars in toys. But the fact is that this music works for immersion, it is a detail of the general mechanism of gameplay, and therefore, if you do not pay attention to it purposefully, it will go unnoticed. Of course, almost no one will be interested in its name, and therefore the answer to the question "What are you listening to?" will not work.
    I think it would be better for your research to be interested in what games the young man is playing. If this is not a sandbox, then ask about the plot in order to understand whether the respondent paid attention to it. If you did, then read it and try to follow the topics that you consider important there. Do not trace anything important, then we can talk about degradation. And if so, then the way of transmitting eternal meanings has simply changed. First stories and legends, then books, then music and films, now games ... In the case of a sandbox, everything is a little more complicated: here you will have to get to know it yourself and, preferably, not through YouTube, in order to understand whether it makes your brains strain. I dare to assure you that there are such (strategies from Paradox Interactive are good in this regard).
    But be prepared that all or almost all the games will be of foreign production, because we somehow did not work out with this in the country, which is sad.
  44. seacap
    seacap 12 January 2022 13: 21
    +2
    Art and culture are all one of the main points of conducting a psychological war against the state and its people, intervention not by military means, methods have been known since ancient times. Special attention has always been paid to this, since it is a very effective method of intervention, often more effective than direct military intervention. In the USSR, all these subtleties and nuances were well known, they successfully resisted them, until some time, when the degraded leadership of the country, for the sake of its ambitions and philistinism, decided to monetize its power and create an inherited estate society, returning the development of the state 100 years ago. Replacement of moral and cultural values, replacement of historical culture and education with another pseudo-culture, imposition of alien idols, rewriting history and creating a distorted perception of a different way of life, etc. etc., all this was done in full and successfully in our country, and with our own hands, our own leadership of the state and at our own expense, as the dead, but not stupid Kharkiv Pole bequeathed.
    1. Terran ghost
      Terran ghost 12 January 2022 13: 37
      -1
      In the USSR, all these subtleties and nuances were well known, they were "successfully" resisted

      I corrected your phrase in accordance with the actual state of affairs. Because this is probably a special kind of "success", when, as a result of indiscriminate prohibition, a simple admirer of a certain style of music or informal culture ("dudes", hippies) also became an anti-Soviet for political convictions. Moreover, completely and completely out of the blue, simply because the art that young people liked did not correspond to the aesthetic views of the already quite old ruling bureaucracy.
      substitution of historical culture and education, another pseudo-culture

      But culture is a living phenomenon of human existence developing according to its own laws. And attempts to preserve it, calling the new that you do not like "pseudo-culture" have never led to anything good and will never lead.
      1. seacap
        seacap 12 January 2022 14: 18
        +1
        And take a wider look at her ...? We won the Second World War with one three-line and penal battalions or what? They rebuilt the camp from the ruins and flew into space thanks to Khrushchev, to the jazz music of Harlem? Any worker of art, was a "conductor of culture to the masses", he was entrusted with a great responsibility and was strictly asked of him. These questions are much more complicated, more important and multifaceted than it seems at a superficial glance, and require an appropriate level of education and intelligence. It was not just that the first decrees of the Soviet government were about children, education and culture.
  45. Sloboda0
    Sloboda0 12 January 2022 13: 53
    -1
    The current management system and the elite of the Russian Federation are destroying the state foundations more effectively than many crisis processes of the past. Even during the famine, there was not always such a decrease in the population.
    Therefore, it was and remains the main directive, the preservation of the current order.
    If for this it is necessary to make a small local war with the slogans: "inviolable power in wartime" ... then they will do it.
    Well, and so ... the territory settles without any problems by itself. The rest is a matter of technology.
  46. bk316
    bk316 12 January 2022 14: 08
    0
    Greetings to Roman.
    1. It is not clear why the article is about culture, and the conclusions about the Minister of Education and Science. All the same, I think it is necessary to start with culture.
    2. I crossed paths with Savateev, as a popularizer of science, he is certainly cool, something like the modern Perelman or Kitaygorodsky. Kids just light up. Well, he’s not bad as a mathematician, but a minister is always a leader and even a bureaucrat. Will Savateev pull?
    3. Does he really want to be a minister?

    And so I agree with the diagnosis, but it seems to me that the medicine is not right ...
  47. Victor Tsenin
    Victor Tsenin 12 January 2022 14: 11
    +2
    You know, these Morgensterns, Instassams and other bio-waste are 100% suitable for the definition of degenerate art.

    On the proposal, I support more than completely, I participate.

    Only taking into account the above - can I suggest that Roman, as a competent and experienced person, publish an approximate sample of the text that can be used with variability, for efficiency and efficiency?
    Pm. upon request or in any way convenient for the author.

    I communicated with well-known structures, knocking out repairs of yards and roads successfully, but I proceed from the vector towards the simplication of mass circulation.
  48. orlovtube
    orlovtube 12 January 2022 14: 17
    -2
    Media patriotism?

    On the one hand, only patriots remained in the media.

    On the other hand, there is a large number of radio stations that do not broadcast a single song in Russian.

    A large number of mediocre licensed TV shows.

    IT IS NECESSARY TO ENTER QUOTAS

    For example, no more than 30% of radio broadcasting is in foreign languages.

    To oblige TV to buy at least 50% of the show scripts from Russian authors.
  49. Codett
    Codett 12 January 2022 14: 50
    +2
    Education has been turned into a service in modern Russia Including higher education, and the majority in society look at teachers and teachers that parents, that their spoiled children, as losers who could not realize themselves in life (believe me, I have relatives of teachers and teachers in university) Government spending on it for many years has remained steadily below the level of 5% of GDP, which is considered the minimum acceptable for the full contribution of education to the welfare of the nation. There is nothing to say about salaries in the field of education. Because of this corruption, people are not left with a choice, even additional activities do not greatly change the situation.
    Ultimately, the situation in education cannot develop along a different trajectory than society as a whole, and the ever-increasing transformation of Russia into a world educational periphery is only one of many signs of the process of degradation, which, unfortunately, is observed in most other spheres of our life. ...
  50. alimov76
    alimov76 12 January 2022 15: 00
    0
    Cheto all this looks like guardianship.
    Cheto wrote on purpose.
    For those who do not know the term, this is a movement from above for releasing steam into a whistle and identifying unreliable ones.