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Western expert on the situation in Europe

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This material is a logical continuation of the previous article on the choice of Washington and the stakes in the negotiations between Russia and the United States, which, as it just became known, will take place on January 10 next year.

I will not build any logical conclusions today. It is enough just to quote and comment on what a well-known and authoritative Western expert says. The level of the majority of VO readers allows me to do this fearlessly.

So here are the views of Andrew A. Michta, Dean of the College of International and Security Studies at the George C. Marshall European Center for Security Studies and the new editor of the independent Internet publication 1945.

The article is titled How NATO Must Respond if Russia Invades Ukraine.

Putin invaded Ukraine and will invade more ...


No, this is not a typo or a mistake by the author. This is the gist of Andrew Micht's material. Russia attacks and attacks. Repeatedly. I understand what the author of the text means. Crimea.

Only one thing is not clear, where, as a specialist, he saw the invasion?

What battles were the Ukrainian and Russian military fought?

"Amid ongoing speculation as to whether Russian President Vladimir Putin will launch yet another attack on Ukraine ..."

But for the author, for all his alleged love for Ukraine, the most important task is his own, European and American, fate. Will the US defend NATO's eastern flank? Yes exactly.

Ukraine is just a bargaining chip in world politics. However, like Europe.

In general, I got the impression that the author mentions the alliance only in the context of a fly from a well-known anecdote - "we plowed." Americans are gods who are able to protect everyone and everything. Europeans are just those flies on the horn of an ox.

Why are NATO members so concerned?

What was it that the Russian president suggested that terrified the author of the article?

The answer was given ... by President Putin when he spoke about the red lines that exist in Europe, from our point of view. The Alliance has no right to ensure its own security by diminishing our security.

“Judging by the volume of demands made by Russia in the two so-called 'draft treaties' with NATO and the United States, respectively, Moscow should have no illusion that they will be accepted as they will change Euro-Atlantic security by creating conditions that will undermine NATO's and America to work with its allies. "

But that is not all.

Moscow, according to the author, wants to deprive Europe of protection, in other words, is pushing the alliance to collapse. That is why it insults and humiliates poor Europeans and Americans with distrust. In particular, on the issues of joining the bloc of new members - Georgia and Ukraine.

“Putin knows that as long as he occupies Donetsk and Luhansk in Ukraine and Abkhazia and South Ossetia in Georgia, countries have no chance of joining NATO, since voting to expand the alliance would actually mean voting to go to war with Russia. Thus, Moscow's demand that the effective status quo be confirmed by a treaty is nothing more than an attempt to humiliate the West. "

Let's answer aggressive Russians together


Then the fun begins. Namely: the answer to the main question posed in the title of the article.

"A second Russian attack on Ukraine, if it happens, should serve as a long-overdue signal to the West that Russia intends to establish an exclusive sphere of influence in Eastern Europe and defend Moscow's claims to exercise influence in Central Europe, within NATO's perimeter."

To paraphrase military analyst Micht, Russia has no right to have interests!

Russia has no rights at all. Moscow can only silently listen to the claims of the EU and NATO and comply with all requirements. This insolence is the fruit of our policy of appeasement.

And here is Andrew Micht's humiliation of Europeans. What is called European armies today is actually just an imitation of the armed forces. Without the United States, Europe cannot exist as an independent union of states.

"... the best supporting outcome would be the rearmament of European NATO allies and an increase in the US military presence on the Eastern Flank, including permanent US bases in Poland and Romania."

The Europeans themselves must courageously ... "spend money not only on the development of real, implemented military potential, but also on strengthening the infrastructure throughout the continent."

Most importantly, European allies and NATO partners will need to show that they can reach a consensus in order to respond with meaningful sanctions, starting with disconnecting Russian banks from SWIFT and stopping Nord Stream 2.

In general, it is strange to read in the XNUMXst century an opus that would have been appropriate a hundred years ago.

On the one hand, there is the fear of Russia's military might and an understanding of the need for this country to develop its own economy, and on the other hand, the desire to make Moscow an obedient trained dog, ready to do anything for a piece of sugar.

One gets the impression that the EU has never learned to count losses.

Disconnecting from SWIFT?

Yes, this will cause some decrease in the growth of the Russian economy. How is it in Europe? IN USA?

How will payments for the same gas be made? For resources? For fertilizers and more?

SP-2?

So who needs gas? Western economy or Gazprom?

There are enough gas sales markets in the East. And the price is higher there. Today, it is the East that is most promising in the economic sense.

Sorry for America


I understand that Andrew A. Michta really wants his country to flourish. The situation that makes it possible to actually control the whole of Europe, not only politically, but also economically, is very good for the United States. He finds it difficult to accept the fact that Europe can be an independent player. As well as the fact that Russia-2021 is not Russia-1991 for a long time.

Putin would choose Germany as his “preferred partner”, hoping that, using his energy weapon"Moscow will eventually be able to persuade Berlin to a" non-Bismarck "agreement that will effectively divide Europe into two spheres of influence, making the United States increasingly irrelevant to the overall strategic balance in Europe."

Again the notorious Nord Stream 2. Now it is no longer as dangerous for Ukraine as for US domination!

By the way, this is an answer to numerous questions about some maniacal desire of the United States to close a project beneficial to the EU.

Strengthening the role of Germany will return the division of Europe into supporters and opponents of Russia. Then the collapse of the EU will be a matter of the coming years. Michta predicts just such a final of European unity. At the same time, it is quite reasonable to refer to President Putin's statement of support for the PRC and the Chinese leader's response to support Russia and its interests in Europe.

Further - a complete whitewash of the American administration in the style of "everything that happens in the United States, the intrigues of Moscow and Beijing."

"This alliance has already presented America with a crisis on two fronts at a time when the country's resources were depleted by twenty years of counter-terrorism operations, pandemic, inflation and political divisions within the country."

We must understand the logic of the enemy


Finishing material is always easy. Everything has been said, thoughts were embodied in words and images. But in this case, this rule does not work.

The opinion of Andrew A. Micht is not the private opinion of one person, it is the opinion of a rather large and influential group of Western analysts and experts.

I don’t know if I was able to convey the logic of reasoning of the editor of "1945", but the essence, it seems to me, is clear. Western democracy must defend the democratic values ​​cultivated by the United States! Europe must choose between its own interests and those of America.

“We are rapidly approaching the point where the crisis in Eastern Europe, especially the fate of Ukraine, could decide Europe’s security and, as a result, its political future. What European governments do in the future will either reaffirm the interests and values ​​of Western democracies or be our greatest defeat since the end of the Cold War. ”

In other words, the current crisis in Ukraine should be viewed as a systemic crisis in international relations.

The Americans really want to preserve the position of the victors in the Cold War and the status of the world gendarme. But Russia, China, and a number of other countries, including the US allies in the EU, are no longer satisfied with Washington's tyranny.

The redivision of the world has already begun. And it is impossible to stop it.

Now you need to choose between the methods of this redistribution. Through negotiations or through another war.

People like Michta lean towards the military way. Again world war in Europe. And again by the hands of Europeans.

It is very important for us to understand the logic of the enemy. This understanding gives a chance for a successful confrontation in the event of a "hot" conflict ...
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  1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
    Nikolay Ivanov_5 2 January 2022 08: 14
    +2
    The West has started and is waging a hybrid war against Russia a long time ago.
    1. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U 2 January 2022 09: 08
      +4
      Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
      The West has started and is waging a hybrid war against Russia a long time ago.

      The case when for something as old as the world, they came up with a name just now.
    2. Real Pilot
      Real Pilot 2 January 2022 15: 54
      +4
      Yes, straightforward uncle, he speaks as if in spirit. However, it is not harmful to say a word! But these mits can cost everyone dear ...

      So we need to keep our gunpowder dry and keep our eyes open. And we do not need a war with Europe at all, you can get what you need in a peaceful way. The hysteria of Western leaders once again confirms that they do not have time to maneuver due to internal problems, and we can wait for a favorable moment for now.
      Do not succumb to provocations - this slogan is still effective ... Getting ready, every minute measured for us is precious, there is no point in forcing a confrontation now.
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 2 January 2022 17: 26
        +1
        And here I am, too, sitting and thinking, who really needs Gazprom's gas? Judging by the fart steam with which Gazprom pulled the pipe to the EU despite all the EU's resistance, this pipe is needed more by Gazprom than by the EU. And further, before talking about NATO and the EU, one must first decide who they are for Russia. If you continue to call them "partners", when in revenge Russia is called nothing other than "hostile" and "aggressive", then nothing good will come of this, because it becomes incomprehensible how to behave with "partners" - to constantly indulge their whims, fulfill their wishes or something? But if you call the EU and NATO states and bloc hostile to Russia - just like that, just in plain text from the highest tribunes - "hostile states"! then it immediately becomes clear how and in what way you need to build relationships with them. Things must be called by their proper names, and nothing else.
      2. Vladimir Mashkov
        Vladimir Mashkov 3 January 2022 12: 30
        +1
        Quote: RealPilot
        Do not succumb to provocations - this slogan is still effective ... Getting ready, every minute measured for us is precious, there is no point in forcing a confrontation now.

        Yes, Alexander well described on the basis of Micht's words the collective aggressive-militant Russophobic opinion of NATO and the EU. But this is BEFORE negotiations. Let's see what happens AFTER. We are waiting, sir! smile
        1. 210ox
          210ox 3 January 2022 13: 03
          +1
          Is there an expectation that this policy will change after the talks? No way!
          1. Vladimir Mashkov
            Vladimir Mashkov 3 January 2022 14: 13
            0
            Quote: 210ox
            Is there an expectation that this policy will change after the talks? No way!

            We'll see. smile
            1. 210ox
              210ox 3 January 2022 15: 28
              +1
              I hope for the best too. But! They are stubborn to the extreme. In any case, success, health and happiness to you and your loved ones in the new year. drinks hi
              1. Vladimir Mashkov
                Vladimir Mashkov 3 January 2022 15: 43
                +1
                Thanks! And I wish you the same! drinks hi
          2. Avarron
            Avarron 10 January 2022 15: 49
            0
            It depends on what kind of bump Putin puts on the table in front of them.
      3. ABC-schutze
        ABC-schutze 5 January 2022 13: 49
        0
        The "logic" of the American regime, after the collapse of the USSR, has long been absolutely clear. In all its "guises", - "Democrats-Republicans" and so on. Washington, "by inertia" considers himself (self-confident and stupid ...) a kind of "winner", and post-Soviet Russia, something "loser" there .. ...

        For this, the winner is “good and is always right.” And the defeated is “bad” and “has the right” only to obey the interests, will and vision of the world order of the winner ...

        In short, this is the "logic" of transatlantic illusions, which completely overcomes the ability to see and be aware of world realities in their dynamics.

        And to "explain" something to the bearers of such "logic" on the path of "talks-negotiations", limiting themselves only to this interesting process, which gives the so-called. For the “West” the opportunity to “pull the rubber off” and endlessly engage in verbiage familiar to “democracies” is absolutely useless. For the illusions of the leader can only be dispelled by active and consistent actions, and not by "words". Even if reasoned ...

        Filya Breedlove, the former NATO commander-in-chief in Europe, "retiring from office," announced that
        The United States is "ready" to fight "in Europe" while protecting its allies from some kind of "Russian aggression".

        But about the "readiness" of the United States, in the event of a military conflict with Russia, to "fight" not only in Europe, but also on the territory of the United States, neither the aforementioned Phil, nor the state expert, whose position was presented to us by the author, said "nothing" .. ...

        And this, too, is a direct consequence of American illusions. Illusions that the potential, direct or indirect "American shooting" from Europe towards Russia, in the context of the West's rejection of the conditions for ensuring mutual and equal, indivisible security offered to it by the West, will leave the territory of the United States itself in "virgin integrity" ...

        It won't be that way. And Russia must demonstrate its PRACTICAL readiness (and the possibility ...) for just such a development of events to Washington with all its "analyst experts" with all the obviousness ...

        The West should be clear, and without any illusions, in the situation of the constantly growing threat to the military security of Russia from the West, and the so-called. NATO's "enlargement concept", that is exactly what it is, Russia will no longer be engaged in "safeguarding" foreign and presumptuous illusions ...
  2. Terenin
    Terenin 2 January 2022 08: 20
    +20
    The article itself answers the question why
    Moscow can only silently listen to the claims of the EU and NATO and comply with all requirements.
    Here is this answer
    This insolence is the fruit of our policy of appeasement.
  3. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 2 January 2022 08: 28
    +6
    Again, they want Russia and Europe to be dragged into another war and thus weaken Russia. It is necessary to somehow reform the dollar financial system, then I think it is really possible to undermine the United States.
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 2 January 2022 08: 38
      +4
      Quote: Pessimist22
      then I think you can really undermine the United States.

      The dollar system can only undermine ... Yellowstone ... lol
  4. prior
    prior 2 January 2022 08: 31
    +5
    If NATO raises the question of whether it is necessary to defend Ukraine, it means only one thing, they will not defend.
    Otherwise, they would not even ask this question.
    For all the sanctions that the collective West threatens, Russia should respond with one answer - trade in Russian resources only for RUBLES.
    And let them line up in Russian banks ..... And we will set the desired rate. wink
    It is not a question to bend Europe, only the will is needed ...
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 2 January 2022 13: 39
      +1
      Quote: prior
      ... And we will set the required course.

      Are you Nabiulina E.S.?
      1. Aviator_
        Aviator_ 2 January 2022 18: 14
        +6
        Are you Nabiulina E.S.?

        There is a vague suspicion that this lady has long forgotten what the ruble looks like.
    2. Beringovsky
      Beringovsky 3 January 2022 21: 20
      +3
      Quote: prior
      ... All the sanctions that threaten the collective West, Russia should answer with one answer - trade in Russian resources only for RUBLES.
      And let them line up in Russian banks ..... And we will set the desired rate.

      Some kind of stupidity ...
      We buy a lot in the EU - from technology, machine tools and aircraft to medical equipment and medicines. Are you also going to pay for them in rubles?
      Quote: prior
      ...
      It is not a question to bend Europe, only the will is needed ...

      Well, yes, well, yes, we have been marking time with the gas pipeline for two years now, and you are aiming at the whole of Europe. Can you agree to bend over in parts?
      1. prior
        prior 4 January 2022 08: 24
        -1
        Why do you give up without even trying to resist ?!
        Even Koreans do not allow themselves to do this!
  5. Terenin
    Terenin 2 January 2022 08: 37
    +5
    It is very important for us to understand the logic of the enemy. This understanding gives a chance for a successful confrontation in the event of a "hot" conflict ...
    About "hot" is clear. But, even in the "cold" war, one does not need to follow the West's lead and only defend. There will be no victory without counterattacks and attacks.
    Even in this article, we "courageously" argue for disagreement with the position of Andrew A. Micht, but this is again our defense (reaction), and the strategy of continuous and planned (daily) information attacks comes from their side. It can be seen, like a day. The single Anglo-Saxon "center" forced their tobacco to strictly follow the schedule (schedule ...) of info-attacks on Russia with a specific message:
    complete whitewashing of the American administration in the style of “everything that happens in the United States, the intrigues of Moscow
    as well as
    a desire to make Moscow an obedient trained dog, ready to do anything for a piece of sugar.
    And, in the end, "to paraphrase military analyst Micht, Russia has no right to have interests!"
    1. Beringovsky
      Beringovsky 3 January 2022 21: 32
      0
      Quote: Terenin
      ... in the "cold" war, one does not need to be led by the West and only defend. There will be no victory without counterattacks and attacks.

      Are you suggesting to capture YouTube, Twitter and Woshinhton Post? And from there we will make counterattacks and attacks, did I understand you correctly?
  6. Cowbra
    Cowbra 2 January 2022 08: 45
    -3
    People like Michta lean towards the military way. Again world war in Europe. And again by the hands of Europeans.

    Well, yes, by the hands of Europeans, but as he himself writes, for this it is necessary to re-create European armies, the Americans themselves do not want to fight.
    By the way, now I might say something stupid, but it looks a lot like that. They will not be able to fight in Europe. Their logistics center - Ramstein, for which they all tied it all up - is a mystery. And we are breaking through Ramstein with Iskander, if Iran is breaking through air defense bases in a belligerent country. And that's all - without logistics, the entire European and Middle Eastern grouping was left without pants, so go to war ... For a complete buzz, you can also visit the command center in Hawaii with some rackets - they also have the entire Asia-Pacific region go blind and scatter without coordination like chickens on a pasture. Dubbing-dubbing, but there is the main center. It's a shitty war - you have two points. which Russia can gouge guaranteed - and without any hypersound - and very quickly.
  7. 1536
    1536 2 January 2022 08: 57
    +1
    The United States and the NATO bloc invaded Ukraine, and now, behind false information about Russia's actions, behind the belligerent rhetoric of their leaders, all sorts of "cold war fighters" are trying to hide the fact of the occupation of Ukraine by Americans, Germans and other "allies."
  8. HAM
    HAM 2 January 2022 08: 58
    +1
    "... the values ​​of Western democracies .." will lead to the fact that Europe simply will not have the next generations of Europeans. There will be one big "Arab world" ...
    They talk too much about Ukraine, but these are just words specifically FOR Ukrainians, so that they seem to feel "support" .. Having invested little, get a lot ... everything is as usual .... and themselves "over the fight" .... cleverly ...
  9. viktortarianik
    viktortarianik 2 January 2022 09: 27
    +2
    I agree. NATO will be completely safe only when there is no Russia. But even then you will have to come up with a new enemy, and he is already being planned - the Arabs and China.
  10. Borisych
    Borisych 2 January 2022 09: 35
    -4
    Here, of course, Lavrov is right again: "Morons, b ....."
  11. 75 Sergey
    75 Sergey 2 January 2022 09: 36
    0
    Why does NATO think that Ukraine and Nruzia are a buffer for Russia, because they are also a buffer for Europe from Russia ?! Safety will be higher!
  12. Undecim
    Undecim 2 January 2022 10: 56
    +9
    No, this is not a typo or a mistake by the author. This is the gist of Andrew Micht's material. Russia attacks and attacks. Repeatedly. I understand what the author of the text means. Crimea.

    The essence of the material, dear author, is completely different. Just from the rostrum of a propagandist-agitator, this essence cannot be discerned. To do this, you need to go to the library and read, first, a textbook on the theory of international relations, and then what is being written on this very theory today.
    Then the essence of Andrew Micht's material will become visible - at present the question is which system of international relations, which after the Cold War has acquired some uncertainty, will be built - unipolar led by the United States or bipolar - the United States and China and is considering options for the United States' actions in Europe from the point of view of building a unipolar world.
    Chinese analysts write similar articles (for example - https://russiancouncil.ru/analytics-and-comments/analytics/bipolyarnost-odnopolyarnost-i-mnogopolyarnost-v-sovremennom-mire/#detail), which consider options for building a bipolar system ...
    What must be especially well understood is that the variant of the multipolar system, which in the article the author calls the Concert of Great Powers in Europe, is not considered by the United States or China.
  13. rocket757
    rocket757 2 January 2022 11: 04
    +2
    Same ...
    They want to solve their problems at the expense of others, it’s unprecedented.
    They should shove a hedgehog into their trousers, so that they would be busy, with pressing problems, and not rave over and over again, fight and conquer someone else.
  14. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 2 January 2022 12: 19
    0
    Whatever one may say, the mattresses will have to admit that they will not be able to put on the "hegemon" cap again.
    However, in an effort to hold on to the dominant positions of the blood of humanity, they will spoil even more. winked
  15. Wanderer_GO
    Wanderer_GO 2 January 2022 12: 28
    -3
    Firstly, it is necessary to understand that the root of the problem lies in the fact that one non-Jewish man (Brzezinski) confidently stated - “Russia will never be able to become a superstate without the stolen ... - that's how they think.
    Secondly, they mistakenly believe that the destruction of the USSR is their merit (the collapse of the USSR completely licks the bureaucratic party nomenclature of the union. - remember the expression "who benefited - he did it") hence their insane self-confidence ...
    Of course, they will never make concessions according to the first point ... But, regarding loud intimidating statements - the answer must be tough - to saturate the advanced units with low-power tactical nuclear warheads right now, at this point in time. We must not forget that Europe is almost half a billion people, and with states and a billion.
    The image of Europe comes to mind as "a bank of sprats on an anvil, over which a sledgehammer is brought"
  16. 203-K
    203-K 2 January 2022 13: 31
    -1
    The opinion of Andrew A. Micht is not the private opinion of one person, it is the opinion of a rather large and influential group of Western analysts and experts.
    And the article with his opinion is primitive, and the author is a dummy, a typical "analyst" of the Western spill.
  17. ximkim
    ximkim 2 January 2022 13: 39
    +1
    Well, NATO is a military-political bloc, and the composition of the countries there is quite suitable, that is, they have one idea there (to promote their interests).
    And what does Russia have? There is: a vast territory, there is no similar bloc, throwing, businesses that can be pressured from outside, participation in projects with subsequent leverage on the Kremlin (and the Kremlin will put pressure on the citizens of the Russian Federation), etc.
    Something like this request
  18. Karabin
    Karabin 2 January 2022 14: 21
    +8
    There are enough gas sales markets in the East. And the price is higher there. Today, it is the East that is most promising in the economic sense.

    Maybe so. But what to do with the profits from Eastern sales? Where to invest, in what and where to store the loot for the owners of the Russian Federation? Something I have not heard about buying villas on the shores of China or Vietnam. And London, the Cote d'Azur and the Italian, Cypriot Mediterranean, please. The public is more content with Bulgaria and Montenegro. Where do the offspring, children and household members of our elite prefer to live / relax / hang out? Is it in Shanghai or Hanoi? In the Russian Federation, the elite is oriented towards the West, prefers the West and depends on the West. Puffing up the cheeks and drawing red lines is just a pathetic attempt to bargain for more favorable conditions for embedding the elite in the Western world. It turns out badly, but attempts continue. Moreover, each subsequent attempt is made under conditions more unfavorable than the previous one.
  19. akims
    akims 2 January 2022 15: 28
    +3
    The essence of the article: At Hitler's rate, all are malacholny)))
  20. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 2 January 2022 19: 26
    +3
    This is the gist of Andrew Micht's material. Russia attacks and attacks. Repeatedly. I understand what the author of the text means. Crimea.

    Crimea flew over the United States like a "basin over a bathhouse." Until now, the states bite their nails and bite their fingers, as according to Vladimir Vysotsky - "They carry chacha past the company, cherry plum past us!" But they will not end the war.
  21. Vladimir1155
    Vladimir1155 2 January 2022 20: 00
    0
    many years ago, when I was involved in global politics, I predicted that Europe would be surrendered! The showcase of the "prosperous" West was needed to fool the Soviet people, the business is done, we are a colony and pay tribute according to the budgetary rule, we fulfill all the wishes of the West, including the chipping of chicken codes ... Europe was flooded with migrants, the Americans plunged it into a shortage of gas and electricity, and they cook there civil war and transformation into a wild field, at the same time the United States and NATO will attack Iran by starting World War III, cleanse everything there from Muslims and accept European refugees to work in the kibbutz .. Great Israel from sea to sea .... A reserve structure has already been created England Australia as a force balancing the winner ... it is pointless to study the articles of stupid deans from the USA, he needs to squeeze an article for Scopus, and he flooded it with his and, in general, American stereotypes of the times of the Ochakovskys and the conquest of Crimea
    1. Usher
      Usher 2 January 2022 20: 49
      0
      This is already an overkill))) It's just ridiculous to read.
  22. Usher
    Usher 2 January 2022 20: 48
    +4
    I especially laughed when I watched the video of the Spanish Ministry of Defense. The contingent of Spanish troops in the Baltic (I forgot the country, I always confuse them) received letters from the kids. And they were kneeling in the snow to read the letters. Everything is presented as if they are at war at the end of the world, with terrible Russia) This is tough. I asked a question in the comments, and I was answered with absolutely stereotypical stereotypical phrases "Russia is threatening" "Russia is attacking" "Russia is oppressing" and so on. Nonsense. Trying to communicate without emotion, on bare facts. It all came down to my personality, and then the Spanish Ministry of Defense just banned me. She's such a freak)))
  23. Glagol1
    Glagol1 3 January 2022 01: 20
    -1
    What's the point of quoting another frostbitten opus? Who he is, generally zero.
  24. Glagol1
    Glagol1 3 January 2022 01: 22
    0
    Internet edition editor 1945. Is this a blogger type? And what is this type to quote? Who is he?
  25. Vl-r Al-v
    Vl-r Al-v 3 January 2022 01: 28
    -2
    These rams from the United States did not understand anything after Russia was revived many years after the collapse of the USSR.
    Well, there should be one conversation with rams - from the point of view of kebab lovers ...
    We in Russia do not just love kebabs, but adore ... "Iskander" with "Daggers" to help us !!!
  26. Edvid
    Edvid 4 January 2022 02: 10
    +1
    Summing up the results of 2021 - in the words of J. Kedmi:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuBGxmOnkPE