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"An ordinary sailor will not cope": the Estonian navy received naval mines from Finland

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The Estonian navy received modern contact action sea mines from Finland. The corresponding agreement between the representatives of the two countries was concluded in 2020.

This was reported by the Estonian television and radio company ERR, referring to the commander of the country's naval forces, Commodore Juri Saska.

According to its principle of action, it is weapon is fundamentally different from conventional contact mines, since it does not need to come into contact with the ship's hull to be triggered. The depth of their placement depends on whether they are intended to destroy enemy ships or submarines.

Yuri Saska noted that, according to international standards, one should warn about the placement of mines in their own or neutral waters. After all, their installation limits the freedom of navigation, that is, the ability to transport goods and passengers.

When using Finnish mines, certain difficulties arise. In particular, difficulties can be caused by mapping their location and setting them up to be triggered by enemy ships. To cope with this, you need to have a certain set of knowledge and skills.

An ordinary sailor can't handle it

- declared the Estonian commodore.

Actually, in the Estonian Navy, this task is beyond the power of anyone, since the relevant specialists have not yet been recruited. As a result: there are mines, no specialists.

Earlier it was reported that in October Estonia ordered an Israeli-made Blue Spear (5G SSM) anti-ship missile system.
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  1. old_pferd
    old_pferd 27 December 2021 16: 18
    +9
    Not understood. Contact mines that are not in contact with the hull?
    Directly some kind of supertechnology. True, the first non-contact mines appeared more than 100 years ago.
    1. Anachoret
      Anachoret 27 December 2021 16: 24
      +3
      It is said: "an ordinary Estonian sailor cannot cope")))
      Therefore, we need black Afro-Estonians of genderqueer orientation in a wheelchair, which is much more unusual, all according to Netflix))
    2. Seryoga64
      Seryoga64 27 December 2021 16: 39
      +1
      Quote: old_pferd
      Directly some kind of supertechnology.

      They are also "stealth" lol
    3. APASUS
      APASUS 28 December 2021 08: 32
      +3
      Quote: old_pferd
      Contact mines that are not in contact with the hull?
      Directly some kind of supertechnology.


      The Estonian Armed Forces received a batch of Blocker sea bottom non-contact mines (PM16) manufactured by the Finnish company Forcit Defense. The Blocker mine is made in a fiberglass hull and has a total weight of 750 kg, hull height 1300 mm, length and width 900 mm. The charge weighs 600 kg, it includes the main charge of 560 kg of Forcit plastic explosives PBX and the initiating charge of FPX R1 plastic explosives. BB is insensitive to external influences. The total charge capacity is stated to be equivalent to over 1000 kg TNT. The mine is equipped with a combined programmable proximity fuse of the Finnish company DA-Group, which includes magnetic, acoustic and hydrodynamic channels. The installation of a mine is possible at depths of up to 200 m.
      1. 28st region
        28st region 29 December 2021 04: 49
        +2
        This is not written in the article. It seems that the one who posted the material was in a hurry, did not bother to penetrate even a little into it.
        There is nothing really, neither the marking of the mine, nor the principle of its action. People mixed up in a bunch of horses .... contact but not contact.
      2. Serge-667
        Serge-667 29 December 2021 12: 37
        +1
        A dangerous beast. In vain they drove them to the Estonians. Do something stupid.
  2. prior
    prior 27 December 2021 16: 22
    +5
    The best way to keep Russia safe from NATO's approach is by expanding Russia.
    You can start with Estonia.
    Are there really those in Europe who want to die for the Estonian swamps ?!
    Otherwise, you see, they cannot live without Finnish mines.
    1. Seryoga64
      Seryoga64 27 December 2021 16: 41
      +6
      Quote: prior
      Are there really those in Europe who want to die for the Estonian swamps?

      Do we need this swamp?
      1. prior
        prior 27 December 2021 16: 45
        +7
        I’m not sure about the swamp, but it’s not superfluous to keep NATO away from St. Petersburg.
        1. Vladimir Mashkov
          Vladimir Mashkov 28 December 2021 21: 07
          0
          The same story as with Australian submarines ... And the same question: does the goat have a button accordion? There are no people in Estonia who can handle those mines. And if it were, will they strongly interfere with the one who wants to conquer Zstonia? No. Another Estonian stupidity! laughing
    2. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 27 December 2021 16: 54
      +1
      The straight-line distance from Narva to St. Petersburg is 134 km, I mean Israeli missiles, they have a range of 290 km.
      1. isv000
        isv000 27 December 2021 17: 55
        +2
        Quote: tralflot1832
        The straight-line distance from Narva to St. Petersburg is 134 km, I mean Israeli missiles, they have a range of 290 km.

        Iskander's flight range is over 500 km ... hi
        1. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 27 December 2021 18: 00
          +1
          They still think that a response will not come to them. War is shooting games on monitors. hi
          1. isv000
            isv000 27 December 2021 19: 22
            -1
            Quote: tralflot1832
            They still think that a response will not come to them. War is shooting games on monitors.

            Everything may turn out to be simpler: Estonian missiles will be intercepted, and a massive strike was struck at the bases and decision-making centers, destroying the Estonian Armed Forces as an aggressor ...
    3. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 27 December 2021 17: 03
      +1
      Quote: prior
      The best way to keep Russia safe from NATO's approach is by expanding Russia.
      You can start with Estonia.
      Are there really those in Europe who want to die for the Estonian swamps ?!
      Otherwise, you see, they cannot live without Finnish mines.

      This is war.
      1. isv000
        isv000 27 December 2021 17: 57
        +5
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        This is war.

        There is no need to frighten us with war, another thing is that it must be prevented by all means ...
      2. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 27 December 2021 18: 36
        +3
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        This is war.

        Yes it will cost. In WWII, the annexation of the Baltic states was grudgingly accepted. Why will they object now? They will say that they themselves are to blame, they oppressed the Russian-speakers, they assigned the status of non-citizens ... Therefore, Article 5 of the NATO Charter is not a trace ... NATO is a loose conglomerate, don't understand who ...
        1. Shiva83483
          Shiva83483 27 December 2021 20: 55
          +1
          this one, once and it's enough .... let these "brakes" get out of their way ...
      3. aszzz888
        aszzz888 28 December 2021 01: 10
        +1

        Aron Zaawi (Aron)
        Yesterday, 17: 03
        NEW

        +1
        Quote: prior
        The best way to keep Russia safe from NATO's approach is by expanding Russia.
        You can start with Estonia.
        Are there really those in Europe who want to die for the Estonian swamps ?!
        Otherwise, you see, they cannot live without Finnish mines.

        This is war.
        What a fantastic)) laughing fool fool tongue inference! wassat laughing wassat
    4. Egoza
      Egoza 27 December 2021 17: 27
      -1
      Quote: prior
      Otherwise, you see, they cannot live without Finnish mines.

      So it is with a subtle hint! "Give the mines and the sailors to them!" )))
    5. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 27 December 2021 19: 13
      +1
      Quote: prior
      The best way to keep Russia safe from NATO's approach is by expanding Russia.
      You can start with Estonia.

      And for the development of the Far East and Siberia, there will be more hands. good
    6. 28st region
      28st region 29 December 2021 04: 50
      +1
      The Estonian swamp, as they are told so and will be told. They have zero independence.
  3. Ros 56
    Ros 56 27 December 2021 16: 23
    -2
    Do they want to block the Gulf of Finland? So this is not the last century, the toys are worthless, because we will force the Chukhonts to catch them with our own hands. am
    1. Seryoga64
      Seryoga64 27 December 2021 16: 42
      -1
      Quote: Ros 56
      after all, we will force the Chukhonts to catch them with our own hands.

      Sumerians will help
      1. DymOk_v_dYmke
        DymOk_v_dYmke 27 December 2021 19: 16
        +1
        Quote: Seryoga64
        Sumerians will help

        They would rather bury their man-made sea than float on other people's mines.
    2. Aag
      Aag 27 December 2021 16: 43
      +3
      Quote: Ros 56
      Do they want to block the Gulf of Finland? So this is not the last century, the toys are worthless, because we will force the Chukhonts to catch them with our own hands. am

      How so?
      No, I also have a similar desire. hi
      The question is, are there forces and means? It seems that the General Staff has come to terms with the lost Baltic (judging by the composition of the Red Banner Baltic Fleet, the absent MA, and the abundance of ships and ships of the adversary, not super powerful, but modern, and (or) numerous ...)
      It seems that again and again there remains only RYAU in the capitals ... (((
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 27 December 2021 18: 25
        -3
        Where did you get the idea, who is so strong there? Finns, Chukhonts, Swedes, or maybe Denmark and Holland? No, all this until the first serious dentition, they simply will not be able to withstand what a Russian sailor can withstand. And this is not a hat, no one went through what our people went through.
        1. Aag
          Aag 29 December 2021 20: 36
          +1
          Quote: Ros 56
          Where did you get the idea, who is so strong there? Finns, Chukhonts, Swedes, or maybe Denmark and Holland? No, all this until the first serious dentition, they simply will not be able to withstand what a Russian sailor can withstand. And this is not a hat, no one went through what our people went through.

          Please, do not speculate on "ours have passed!" I understand, I just can't offer anything worthy .... ((().
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 27 December 2021 23: 25
        -5
        "And the abundance of ships and ships of the foe" In the Baltic, two battalions of Bastions will be enough so that all these ships, in case of anything, do not leave the ports, almost the water area is shot through by Onyxes.
        1. Aag
          Aag 29 December 2021 20: 46
          0
          Quote: Vadim237
          "And the abundance of ships and ships of the foe" In the Baltic, two battalions of Bastions will be enough so that all these ships, in case of anything, do not leave the ports, almost the water area is shot through by Onyxes.

          You somehow greatly underestimate the enemy. This is fraught ... A number of Scandinavian countries, even during WWII, being neutrals, greatly hampered ... the life of the USSR.
          As I understand it, even fishing vessels, with minimal equipment, and even without it, can seriously puzzle SSBN commanders in terms of secretly advancing to the patrol areas
    3. isv000
      isv000 27 December 2021 17: 58
      -1
      Quote: Ros 56
      Do they want to block the Gulf of Finland? So this is not the last century, the toys are worthless, because we will force the Chukhonts to catch them with our own hands.

      And by swimming, between the ice floes and without wetsuits!
      1. Aag
        Aag 27 December 2021 18: 49
        +1
        Quote: isv000
        Quote: Ros 56
        Do they want to block the Gulf of Finland? So this is not the last century, the toys are worthless, because we will force the Chukhonts to catch them with our own hands.

        And by swimming, between the ice floes and without wetsuits!

        ... By the way, about wetsuits ... Have you ever compared the "enemy" with the domestic?
        Her ... Just yesterday I bought a suit for software (spearfishing) of domestic production. Only Japanese neoprene (in other decent variations Finnish) ... you can go on, but I think you won't like it ... hi
        Happy New Year! good
        1. isv000
          isv000 27 December 2021 19: 26
          0
          Quote: AAG
          Only Japanese neoprene (in other decent variations Finnish) ... you can go on, but I think you won't like it ...

          Yes. I will not like the humane attitude towards Finnish captive sailors - only catching mines in uniform will save them number of times in the future from making rash decisions ... Happy New Year! drinks
  4. Crash
    Crash 27 December 2021 16: 26
    0
    Estonian navy received modern naval mines contact activity

    fundamentally different from Conventional contact min, since for triggering it does not need to touch with the hull of the ship

    Please translate ... This uncommon contact mines?
    1. Seryoga64
      Seryoga64 27 December 2021 16: 46
      -1
      Quote: Crasher
      Translate please.

      They are contact. But they do not come into contact.
      Use their resources.
      We call anonism lol
  5. Soldatov V.
    Soldatov V. 27 December 2021 16: 37
    -2
    Here is the first call about the naval blockade of Kaliningrad and St. Petersburg.
    What if the Russian Navy surrounds these countries with mines? And even announce about no flight zone above them?
    The impression is that they gobbled up VIAGRA and what they really want. love fool
  6. Seryoga64
    Seryoga64 27 December 2021 16: 38
    -3
    An ordinary sailor can't handle it

    Well, as in that joke
    "Chukchi is not a reader, Chukchi is a writer"
    Or maybe vice versa laughing
  7. rocket757
    rocket757 27 December 2021 16: 46
    +1
    Variants, assumptions are different ... small, trivial, they want to be noticeable, important.
    What will they do, is that a question?
  8. old_pferd
    old_pferd 27 December 2021 16: 55
    +2
    After digging in the internet - it looks like these are the Finnish proximity mines Merimiina 2000 - bottom mines RM 04
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sea_Mine_2000
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  10. knot master
    knot master 27 December 2021 17: 26
    -1
    Their entire navy is three fiberglass minesweepers, let them forget about the sea.
  11. Brylevsky
    Brylevsky 27 December 2021 17: 29
    +2
    ... Actually, in the Estonian Navy, this task is beyond the power of anyone, since the relevant specialists have not yet been recruited. As a result: there are mines, no specialists.

    For any sea mine there is a "Service manual, product number ...", "Mine service rules", where it is written in the most accessible military language what can and should be done with a mine, and what cannot be done with it. There are also albums with color drawings, such as comics, where about the same is drawn. This is in all the fleets of the world, not only here. What kind of mines do the Finns have, inaccessible to the understanding of military people ... mines were placed, but the documentation for them - no?
    1. Snail N9
      Snail N9 27 December 2021 18: 35
      -1
      Not .. It's about the very patriotic message of the article. Look what kind of stupid mines you bought, but they can't figure them out. Kind of not for the average, Estonian minds. Look how many at once, here the local note-taking urahapkozakidatel began immediately to defecate wit. So the message of the article has reached its goal. yes And in the original, it was most likely that certain qualifications are needed to handle mines, and you simply cannot entrust them to a sailor - you need to undergo training in the rules and techniques for handling mines. That's all. In principle, any new equipment and weapons.
      1. Brylevsky
        Brylevsky 27 December 2021 19: 14
        +2
        ... it is necessary to undergo training in the rules and techniques for handling mines.

        I agree with you.

        There has been too much politics and too little technology at VO lately. At the time to rename to "Military - Political Review" ...
  12. expert
    expert 27 December 2021 18: 22
    -1
    After reading the presented news, the feeling that someone is delusional does not leave. Either Commodore Yuri Saska, or the one who translated from Finnish or Estonian ...
  13. bukhach
    bukhach 28 December 2021 02: 24
    0
    It is not clear what they are for, who is going to attack Estonia from the sea, it is easier for Russia to pounce on the coast, on land, everything is near and close. Maybe they think the Tallinn crossing from Kaliningrad will repeat itself. and puff into two holes, because if that's the case with modern means of destruction and the size of these countries, scorched earth will remain from them, even without nuclear weapons, and all the same where a horse with a hoof goes, there is a cancer with a claw.
  14. Storog dvornik
    Storog dvornik 28 December 2021 02: 49
    0
    Famous for its numerous, outstanding Nobel laureates in physics and mathematics, the Tallinn Academy of Sciences, and battle-hardened, invincible, tough military / Estonians, and suddenly they have no specialists in mines? ...
    I do not believe...
  15. Keer
    Keer 28 December 2021 02: 49
    -1
    Actually, in the Estonian Navy, this task is beyond the power of anyone, since the relevant specialists have not yet been recruited. As a result: there are mines, no specialists.
    It's okay, by the time they figure out how to install, the Baltic Sea will disappear due to the drift of the continental plates.
  16. svoit
    svoit 28 December 2021 11: 08
    +1
    Quote: Aron Zaavi
    This is war.
    we only need two things from them - that there was no danger, and that they would not oppress the Russians, not so many.
  17. tatarin1972
    tatarin1972 29 December 2021 15: 23
    0
    Are sailors planning, preparing, programming? The task of the sailor is to push the mine, on command, overboard.