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Psaki: It is impossible to agree with NATO-related initiatives of Russia

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White House spokeswoman Jen Psaki commented on the process of familiarizing the American administration with the proposals on security issues that were presented by the Russian side. Let us recall that Russia considers the further expansion of NATO to the East, as well as the deployment of NATO strike weapons at its borders, categorically unacceptable. At the same time, Russia initiates the signing of a legally binding document on mutual security guarantees. In the West, meanwhile, such Russian initiatives are called "Putin's ultimatum."


Jen Psaki said during the briefing that Washington continues to get acquainted with Russian initiatives, and noted that "the United States could agree with some of them, but some are unacceptable."

Psaki:

It is, of course, impossible to agree with Russia's NATO-related initiatives.

A White House spokeswoman said the North Atlantic Alliance "is a purely defensive structure, not offensive."

Psaki:

And there is no evidence to the contrary. There is no evidence that this could be assumed.

Apparently, the information about how the NATO "defensive" alliance invaded Yugoslavia, having seized Kosovo from Serbia by force, is not proof for Psaki and her employers in this regard. It is not evidence of the aggressive policy of NATO and other invasions of the alliance in third countries, including Libya. Who exactly were NATO members "defending" in northern Africa, and what relation did Libya have to NATO in general? ..

This is an additional confirmation of the words of Vladimir Putin, expressed at the press conference the day before - the words that NATO's trust no longer exists and cannot be.

It should be recalled that on the eve of NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg announced that the alliance did not make any promises to Moscow not to expand to the East after the fall of the Berlin Wall.
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  1. rocket757
    rocket757 24 December 2021 06: 14
    +7
    Psaki: It is impossible to agree with NATO-related initiatives of Russia
    ... Well, yes ... with the wishlist of minke whales, in their opinion, everyone should agree !!!
    Why not send them ... or them, a figure of five fingers. soldier
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty 24 December 2021 07: 09
      +15
      Then, we are obliged to solve the problems of non-proliferation of NATO by forceful means, more precisely, by returning all Russian LANDS from the composition of the Ukrainian LAND, in the first place! We are forced to this, we have no room for maneuver, or they will crush us, or we anticipation. And, after that, the REAL SANCTIONS are inevitable, at least. On the other hand, they will start to reckon with us, realizing that a conversation with a position of force against us is ineffective, at least.
      1. Cheshire
        Cheshire 24 December 2021 07: 25
        +8
        Quote: Thrifty
        Then, we are obliged to solve the problems of non-proliferation of NATO by forceful means, more precisely, by returning all Russian LANDS from the composition of the Ukrainian LAND, in the first place! We are forced to this, we have no room for maneuver, or they will crush us, or we anticipation. And, after that, the REAL SANCTIONS are inevitable, at least. On the other hand, they will start to reckon with us, realizing that a conversation with a position of force against us is ineffective, at least.

        This has been asking for a long time, the problem is that
        it is calculated quite easily and now UWB is playing ahead of time. But there is no other way, the situation pushes us to this.
        hi
        1. Vladimir Mashkov
          Vladimir Mashkov 24 December 2021 13: 35
          +5
          Everything is as expected: the State Department did not agree, but he pulls the rubber and chatters! negative
      2. rocket757
        rocket757 24 December 2021 07: 34
        +4
        Quote: Thrifty
        Then we have a responsibility to solve problems

        Russia also has tools for influencing inadequate neighbors and in general. We may not have such a variety as that of minke whales, but if you take it wisely, purposefully and persistently, the effect will be, especially in the long term!
        The main thing is that there would not be "some in the woods, some for firewood" ... to hit in one point, in one direction ... then the missiles / tanks can remain in their places ... be ready, just in case, to counteraction / impact on the most inadequate.
      3. Arpad
        Arpad 24 December 2021 07: 45
        -20
        Quote: Thrifty
        Then, we are obliged to solve the problems of non-proliferation of NATO by force, or rather, by returning all Russian LANDs from the "Ukrainian"


        Well, suppose they entered and cut off part of Ukraine, and how did it help? That you will run into full sanctions is understandable, but who will then prevent the rest of NATO from entering NATO?
        Quote: Thrifty
        But, we will be reckoned with


        Well, first of all, I don’t think so. maybe there will be no more trump cards. the question is - how much will you personally be helped by what type of account you are. if your standard of living falls, well, 2 times lower?
        Quote: Thrifty
        that talking with a position of strength against us is ineffective, to say the least.


        2nd Newton's law - for every force there is a counterforce equal to it.
        1. Aviator_
          Aviator_ 24 December 2021 08: 13
          +11
          2nd Newton's law - for every force there is a counterforce equal to it.

          This is not the second, this is Newton's third law.
          1. Split
            Split 24 December 2021 14: 24
            +3
            Also, quantum microgravity was not taken into account. drinks lol
        2. kbosh
          kbosh 24 December 2021 09: 07
          -20
          I was always interested in that. Where did the Urya-patriots get the concrete confidence that they will win ... What is it based on? On a pile of obsolete, inherited trash from the union? Well, they clearly explained to the khachiks, by shooting, like deer from a helicopter, how it would be ...
          1. serezhasoldatow
            serezhasoldatow 24 December 2021 10: 17
            +8
            Gurgled? Now grunt and calm down.
          2. Gray Wolf_30
            Gray Wolf_30 24 December 2021 11: 35
            +4
            On a pile of obsolete trash inherited from the union, your ukroreykh is trying to fight with the Republics and swallow tomatoes, and to shoot the Natsik like deer from a helicopter, there is something newer!
          3. flicker
            flicker 24 December 2021 17: 17
            +1
            Where did the Urya-patriots get the concrete confidence that they will win ... What is it based on?
            It seems that too long smoke breaks have begun in the kibbutz? laughing
            1. kbosh
              kbosh 24 December 2021 21: 59
              -5
              Dear, if you think that for the sake of a few dozen macaques in the kibbutz, they will still strain. I have bad news for you ... you stupid and funny poz.
              1. flicker
                flicker 24 December 2021 22: 06
                +1
                The population of Israel according to media reports as of December 31, 2020 is 9 million 300 thousand people
                if you think that for the sake of a few dozen macaques in the kibbutz, they will still strain. I have bad news for you ... you stupid and funny poz.


                And for the sake of 9 million 300 thousand
                monkeys in kibbutzim will still strain.
                ?
        3. bayard
          bayard 25 December 2021 05: 00
          +3
          Quote: Arpad
          well, let's say they entered and cut off part of Ukraine

          Are you in your mind ??
          Ktozh for the sake of half and it will itch?
          No - ALL Russian Lands are obliged to return to their native fold and restore Integrity.
          And your criminal community is waiting for a fair Court of the Military Tribunal.
          You probably missed that it is not about Ukraine at ALL.
          We are talking about the ENTIRE Zone of Vital Interests of Russia.
          And this is not just the territory of the former Soviet Union.
          This, including (!), ALL Eastern Europe.
          From now on, the United States is prohibited from having military bases, nuclear weapons and its own troops in Eastern Europe, as well as from having as NATO members states bordering on Russia and entering into the Zone of Her Vital Interests.
          It is forbidden for US ships to enter the Black Sea and other waters adjacent to the maritime borders of Russia.
          It is forbidden for US bombers to fly near the air borders of the Russian Federation and its allies.
          The answer to the Ultimatum is implied EXCLUSIVELY unequivocal and positive.
          Otherwise, MILITARY and MILITARY-TECHNICAL measures will be taken.
          What does it mean ?
          It's just that the US has no nuclear weapons from now on.
          And Russia HAS.
          And China does.
          And North Korea does. lol
          And the USA - NO!
          No nuclear weapons created before 1992
          And other nuclear weapons have not been produced in the United States since that time.
          There is NO production capacity for its production.
          And those that are about to launch will have to start all over again.
          To begin with, at least catch up with North Korea in potential.

          Here is such a second Newton's law.
          But for you today EXCLUSIVELY the Law of Karma is relevant. (Punishing Mother)
          The Law of Retribution.

          And what was it like when your shield and sword turned out to be a cardboard dummy?

          Obama knew that this time was approaching, and from that - METAL with the idea of ​​"complete nuclear disarmament". lol
          But no one was led to it. bully
        4. ANB
          ANB 25 December 2021 18: 09
          0
          ... 2nd Newton's law - for every force there is an equal counterforce

          This is the third law, actually.
          Education in Ukraine has degraded.
          And the Russian Federation does not need a piece of Ukraine.
      4. Civil
        Civil 24 December 2021 07: 52
        -11
        Quote: Thrifty
        On the other hand, they will start to reckon with us, realizing that a conversation with a position of force against us is ineffective, at least.

        North Korean option? laughing proud, but poor people) But seriously, only a war to a victorious end.
        1. Aerodrome
          Aerodrome 24 December 2021 08: 26
          -4
          Psaki: It is impossible to agree with NATO-related initiatives of Russia
          Zhenya, you are cool ... "mikhan" shields like that ... surrender to him already, and you will forget about these "carousels" ... you will have a problem - "mikhan" ...
        2. kbosh
          kbosh 24 December 2021 08: 59
          -12
          In the DPRK, the proud and the poor are completely different people. Proud, this local elite, like the Russian one, does not deny themselves anything. It's just a smaller scale. And the population, has long tightened their belts and bears all the hardships ...
          1. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 24 December 2021 11: 41
            +3
            What a funny organism - it has already signed for the population. laughing
            1. kbosh
              kbosh 24 December 2021 16: 58
              -5
              My dear, did you feel offended for the brothers in the way of life? Don't be offended. All my life to live in shit and prepare for war of the right, neither you nor the North Koreans are deprived of ...
              1. ANB
                ANB 25 December 2021 18: 13
                0
                ... All my life living in shit and preparing for war

                Is it written about Ukraine?
                After all, it is 100 percent the same. Especially since 2014.
          2. flicker
            flicker 24 December 2021 18: 55
            +3
            proud and beggar

            Do not worry like this, but this is to lift your spirits. laughing
      5. venik
        venik 24 December 2021 17: 21
        +3
        Quote: Thrifty
        And, after that, the REAL SANCTIONS are inevitable, at least.

        ======
        Allow me to clarify, what exactly do you call "REAL SANCTIONS" ??? Disconnecting from SWIFT? Banning the sale of "Apple" iPhones ?? And what - already existing sanctions - are they, that "NOT REAL" ??? belay
  2. Finches
    Finches 24 December 2021 06: 17
    +17
    So ...

    Slowly rockets float away
    Meet with them you do not wait.
    And although America is a little sorry,
    Europe has it ahead ...
    laughing
  3. Split
    Split 24 December 2021 06: 33
    +6
    OneAndat district has appeared drinks
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 24 December 2021 09: 48
      +2
      Quote: Split
      OneAndat district has appeared drinks

      Without beads - this is half Psaki. Even somehow she didn’t look so beautiful. And not so smart ... laughing
      1. Split
        Split 24 December 2021 14: 11
        +3
        Was she smart and especially beautiful before? belay drinks Yes, I wouldn’t have a liter of vodka bully
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 24 December 2021 14: 37
          +1
          Quote: Split
          Was she smart and especially beautiful before? belay drinks Yes, I wouldn’t have a liter of vodka bully

          As he begins to talk about the "healing mountain air" in Rostov and about the Belarusian Sea - it will take your breath away ... repeat Not mind, but Umishche, not beauty - but Beauty ...
          1. Split
            Split 24 December 2021 14: 43
            +2
            I can tell you about the new Athos cave ... or about New Gadari, where an 82mm mine flew in a couple of meters in 2001 ... the consequences of which I have been feeling for 20 years ... okay, a severed hand, a shell shock ... a meniscus fragment hurt ..... right now I'm lying around for the tenth week and they blocked me almost half of them .... I listened to all the terrible stories on YouTube belay
  4. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 24 December 2021 06: 37
    +8
    Interestingly, the further development of events, what will happen after the refusal to sign the conditions proposed by Putin?
    1. alekseykabanets
      alekseykabanets 24 December 2021 06: 42
      -7
      Quote: Pessimist22
      Interestingly, the further development of events, what will happen after the refusal to sign the conditions proposed by Putin?

      Some conditions will be signed and this will be announced as the most important victory over the insidious Naglo-Saxons, and they will also say that they need to tighten their belts a little tighter and wait a bit. IMHO, of course.
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 24 December 2021 06: 48
        +12
        Or maybe the Naglo-Saxons will declare any agreement with Putin their victory over the insidious and aggressive Moscow.
        It's kind of abnormal when NATO demands from Russia to withdraw its troops from its own territory ... isn't it?
        1. alekseykabanets
          alekseykabanets 24 December 2021 07: 09
          +2
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          Or maybe the Naglo-Saxons will declare any agreement with Putin their victory over the insidious and aggressive Moscow.

          And they, of course, will declare their victory. How can we do without it.))))
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          It's kind of abnormal when NATO demands from Russia to withdraw its troops from its own territory ... isn't it?

          Of course not normal! It's just that over the past 30 years, the Russian Federation has driven itself into such a hole that it is no longer reckoned with.
          1. Egoza
            Egoza 24 December 2021 07: 50
            +4
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            It's just that over the past 30 years, the Russian Federation has driven itself into such a hole that it is no longer reckoned with.

            It is necessary to remind about Texas and California more often. Otherwise, Russia can also come to the aid of democracy! )))
          2. serezhasoldatow
            serezhasoldatow 24 December 2021 10: 20
            -6
            You live according to Lavrov and Zadornov.
            1. alekseykabanets
              alekseykabanets 24 December 2021 10: 33
              +2
              Quote: serezhasoldatow
              You live according to Lavrov and Zadornov.

              Is there anything to object to in the commentary? Or when there is nothing to object, you become doubly offended and you become personal?
        2. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 24 December 2021 08: 07
          +6
          Announcing victories is getting harder and harder. December 22, Iraq reported that all the American coalition troops left its territory, only the instructor remained. Sulemaini. Iranian diplomacy achieved its goals in relations with Iraq. So they cooperated quietly with each other, now there are no controllers. And the logistics for Iran to Syria have improved. So the United States has already fled from the second country, already its heels sparkled. The hegemon is not the same. , and their faces are not funny when they comment on our terms.
          1. Kesha1980
            Kesha1980 24 December 2021 09: 57
            +2
            On December 22, Iraq reported that all the troops of the American coalition left its territory, only the instructor remained

            The funniest thing is the number of instructors. It is almost identical to the previous grouping of the States. The guys "just put on other shirts." They simply do not carry out operations, but help with air support, reconnaissance, etc. So they did not leave. Since the New Year, therefore, terrorist attacks against amers are expected there.
            1. tralflot1832
              tralflot1832 24 December 2021 10: 05
              +2
              Christmas is from December 25, and when do the Masulman holidays begin?
              1. Kesha1980
                Kesha1980 24 December 2021 14: 39
                0
                There is a deadline for the withdrawal of amers from Iraq until December 31. They decided to cheat and all became instructors. Local pro-Iranian fighters have already expressed their indignation and warned that the shelling of the "green zone" will intensify since the New Year. So, we are waiting)
                1. tralflot1832
                  tralflot1832 24 December 2021 14: 45
                  +1
                  2 drunken Santa Clauses? wassat
    2. HaByxoDaBHocep
      HaByxoDaBHocep 24 December 2021 06: 42
      +3
      Express concern
    3. kbosh
      kbosh 24 December 2021 08: 46
      0
      Powerful...
    4. Aleksandr97
      Aleksandr97 24 December 2021 13: 51
      +2
      The fact that our appeal would be chattering or simply ignoring was immediately clear. At the negotiating table, if they really are the Goal, will not come before the Cuban Missile Crisis 2.0.
      And here is the fork, if all this is for the new Yalta, then either Poseidons or something else with an existential threat to the existence of states will be deployed. If this is a cover, then the next steps will come as a surprise to everyone.
    5. flicker
      flicker 24 December 2021 20: 57
      +1
      Interestingly, the further development of events, what will happen after the refusal to sign the conditions proposed by Putin?
      Yes, there are options. From Putin's address to history:
      Russia cannot be defeated, it can only be destroyed from within, "Putin said, adding that this was done twice over the past century - after the First World War and in the 90s.

      The enemies also know this, and therefore they work for this. Those. they are shaking Russia from within, through the pro-Western nomenklatura in power.
      The West relies on them more than on its own missiles, which means it will fall into terrible despondency if the government begins to purge the pro-Western nomenklatura.
      ---
      It is not known whether Putin will take this step now, but it would be a very strong step.
      Moreover, pushing for compulsory vaccination (and this is a pro-Western trend) has very well exposed pro-Western nomenklatura members. So you're done.
  5. Seryoga64
    Seryoga64 24 December 2021 06: 42
    +2
    that on the eve of NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg announced that the alliance did not make any promises to Moscow not to expand to the East after the fall of the Berlin Wall.

    Even if you grab it by the tongue, it will still get out
  6. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 24 December 2021 06: 43
    +8
    Psaki: It is impossible to agree with NATO-related initiatives of Russia

    Aunt! After giving birth, women become more judicious, and your head remains empty.
    Surely, while swimming in the Belarusian Sea off the coast of Iraq (or Iran, who cares) you overcooled or overheated in the sun, forgetting about your (American from Colin Powell) arguments about the presence of chemical weapons in Iraq? I remind you:

    As for Russian initiatives, all European leaders who do not like to “just die” have spoken here. Therefore (how to put it mildly, so as not to offend?), Close the birdhouse, for:
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 24 December 2021 10: 07
      +4
      This aunt knows very well that we at VO consider her a fool, but this does not make her smarter.
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 24 December 2021 06: 44
    +5
    Of course, it is impossible to agree with Russia's NATO-related initiatives
    It's clear. Who, then, will break the conceived plan to liquidate Russia as a state with his own hands? But on the other hand, you can try for months or years to negotiate your terms and roll up the proposals put forward by Russia. Ultimately, accuse Russia of intractability and close the topic.
    “Is a purely defensive structure, not offensive.” And there is no evidence to the contrary.
    The evidence is plentiful. The Americans are sure from their bell tower that their satellites will certainly confirm that NATO's actions towards Russia are exclusively "defensive". But besides the American sixes, there are other countries in the world (and the biggest jackals combined) that observe the real course of events and do not agree with this formulation.
    1. SKVichyakow
      SKVichyakow 24 December 2021 07: 18
      +6
      Even now they do not hesitate to assert that they have nothing to do with it, but Russia is to blame for all the sins. Therefore, the rebuff should be tough, without lisping. If they act as they wrote earlier, fulfill all the conditions or in the future it is your problem. The course is correct.
  8. Graz
    Graz 24 December 2021 07: 17
    +7
    then everything must be taken on the right side of the Dnieper with access to Pridnestrovie. to destroy the entire Ukrainian grouping in the Donbas and make a no-fly zone over the whole of Ukraine. War is so war
    1. Sad235
      Sad235 24 December 2021 08: 18
      -13
      Himself with a machine gun in front.?
      1. Graz
        Graz 24 December 2021 08: 30
        +6
        you will be destroyed remotely, with a machine gun in front of it, this is World War II. baby
    2. isv000
      isv000 24 December 2021 15: 36
      +3
      Quote: Graz
      War so war

      Electronic warfare, air defense, a no-fly zone and the freedom of action for the LPNR units - you can make a good soup out of all this! ..
  9. rusich
    rusich 24 December 2021 07: 22
    +12
    And Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq, NATO were bombed exclusively for defensive purposes or ....... ?????????
    1. Arpad
      Arpad 24 December 2021 07: 48
      -15
      Quote: rusich
      And Yugoslavia, Libya, Iraq, NATO were bombed exclusively for defensive purposes or ....... ?????????

      all with UN sanction. where Russia voted for.
      request
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 24 December 2021 08: 00
        +6
        Russia did not vote for the bombing of Libya ... they talked about a no-fly zone ... The West understood this as permission for all war crimes.
        Mr. Medvedev then made a fool of allowing NATO members to wreak havoc in Libya.
        1. Arpad
          Arpad 24 December 2021 18: 52
          -1
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          Russia did not vote for the bombing of Libya ... they talked about a no-fly zone ... The West understood this as permission for all war crimes.
          Mr. Medvedev then made a fool of allowing NATO members to wreak havoc in Libya.

          so all the same allowed.
      2. Charik
        Charik 24 December 2021 13: 30
        +2
        The donkey sniffed you, it was not sanctioned by the UN. In June 2000, representatives of the intellectual elite, 150 scientists and lawyers from 26 countries, signed the Brussels Appeal, in which they condemned the NATO aggression against Yugoslavia. This document states that "preparing for a war, making a decision about it and waging it contradicted the most elementary norms of international law," the military action against Yugoslavia "was an obvious violation of the UN Charter", which only in exceptional cases allows the use of force for legal self-defense or UN Security Council sanctions. In this case, none of these conditions existed. The Brussels Appeal emphasizes that the methods of NATO's air operation were contrary to the legal norms of behavior in a military conflict: "in general, the systematic destruction of the national economic infrastructure and means of communication in order to intimidate the population and cause an uprising is incompatible with the principle of humanism, which NATO tried to justify its actions." The bloc violated its own charter and did not receive UN sanction for air strikes.
        1. Arpad
          Arpad 24 December 2021 18: 58
          -3
          Quote: Charik
          Donkey sniffed you

          do not measure people by yourself
          Quote: Charik
          was not sanctioned by the UN


          было
          Quote: Charik
          In June 2000, representatives of the intellectual elite, 150 scientists and lawyers from 26 countries, signed the Brussels Appeal


          and?
          who are all these people and what do they mean?
          Quote: Charik
          The military action against Yugoslavia "was a clear violation of the UN Charter", which only in exceptional cases allows the use of force for legitimate self-defense or with the sanction of the UN Security Council

          Yes, on a drum, there were sanctions in general. if not for NATo they would cut each other.
          NATO stopped the war in Yugoslavia
      3. rusich
        rusich 24 December 2021 14: 05
        +1
        Don't gaps. Russia - abstained
        1. Arpad
          Arpad 24 December 2021 18: 53
          -5
          Quote: rusich
          Don't gaps. Russia - abstained

          Ie was not against it.
        2. Charik
          Charik 24 December 2021 19: 19
          +1
          yes, at least nassa in his eyes, you are writing a lie to him, and he is on the drum, the devil is sent
  10. arhPavel
    arhPavel 24 December 2021 07: 36
    +4


    And there is no evidence to the contrary. There is no evidence that this could be assumed.



    To defend Afghanistan, Libya and Yugoslavia were “protected” it just needs to voice the motto “peace to the world” no matter what the military is doing and there is no evidence to the contrary.
  11. askort154
    askort154 24 December 2021 07: 58
    +5
    Jen Psaki said during the briefing that Washington continues to get acquainted with Russian initiatives,

    How can you not remember Zadorny. They have been studying one page of text for a week now. fool
    1. Sad235
      Sad235 24 December 2021 08: 22
      -6
      And where should they rush.? They have Christmas Then our spree will give birth to something by the end of January
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 24 December 2021 08: 37
        -3
        On January 14, everyone will have a headache after the New Year's coma.
  12. faiver
    faiver 24 December 2021 08: 16
    +3
    I wonder if Matthew Lee still attends her press conferences?
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 24 December 2021 08: 37
      +1
      I would like to see it. smile
      1. faiver
        faiver 24 December 2021 08: 49
        +1
        Not for you alone bully
  13. Rybkin
    Rybkin 24 December 2021 08: 43
    +2
    Everything has been filled in ...
  14. likas
    likas 24 December 2021 10: 37
    +2
    As I understand it, what the Americans agreed with was a victory, and what they did not agree with, there would be negotiations ..
  15. aszzz888
    aszzz888 24 December 2021 10: 43
    +1
    A White House spokeswoman said
    What to take from her! Talking little head. You can teach a parrot, everything will be cheaper - he will not have to give out a salary.
    1. oldzek
      oldzek 24 December 2021 11: 25
      +2
      yes no, chemistry will not eat. exclusively natural products. but it is expensive.
  16. Kapral Alphych
    Kapral Alphych 24 December 2021 11: 16
    +2
    Another psaki psaki
    1. isv000
      isv000 24 December 2021 15: 30
      +2
      Quote: Kapral Alphich
      Another psaki psaki

      Psaka she is such a Psaka!
  17. Smesharik84
    Smesharik84 24 December 2021 11: 50
    -4
    All local comments on the site are the embodiment of wisdom "Those who will never go to war call for war."
  18. isv000
    isv000 24 December 2021 15: 29
    +1
    A White House spokeswoman said the North Atlantic Alliance "is a purely defensive structure, not offensive."

    Exceptionally defensively, with toad-like leaps, NATO galloped through the Warsaw Pact bloc and took it to the ready at the borders of Russia ... negative
  19. Curious Katya
    Curious Katya 24 December 2021 16: 14
    0
    The North Atlantic Alliance is a purely defensive structure, not offensive. And there is no proof to the contrary


    Seriously??? Here are direct no, no ???
    And the fact that since its inception NATO has not carried out ANY defensive operation (but there were aggression) - this is proof of what ???
  20. flicker
    flicker 24 December 2021 17: 14
    0
    Jen Psaki said during the briefing that Washington continues to get acquainted with Russian initiatives, and noted that "the United States could agree with some of them, but some are unacceptable."
    Geldings in their repertoires are mowing like girls.
    Or maybe they don't mow? winked
    "This is not a menu": Ryabkov urged to consider all proposals for security in the complex
  21. hermit
    hermit 24 December 2021 22: 08
    -2
    Is it possible to find a president in Russia who would not be such a brake as the current one. Twenty years ago, it was necessary to start negotiating security guarantees with the Americans. The Baltics were admitted to NATO in 2004. And nothing - they were silent. And now he caught himself.
  22. 75 Sergey
    75 Sergey 25 December 2021 15: 47
    0
    The hike can cut off all communication channels with the outside world, they did not love us, do not love and will not love us, so why waste time in vain?
    The idea of ​​integrating Russia into the world of the West has completely failed; friendship with the East raises not groundless doubts.
    Our first priority is to survive in this hostile world!
    And for this it is necessary:
    - to restore the people's power;
    - transfer the Country to full self-sufficiency and satisfaction of needs;
    - put science and education at the forefront;
    - to reduce until the complete cessation of the supply of raw materials abroad;
    - to engage in ecology everywhere, to bring waste processing and their use to 100%, and for this to develop standards for the materials used.
  23. Borisych
    Borisych 26 December 2021 00: 18
    -1
    Come on, everything you need is already ready. It remains to summarize. Some systems are included, the development of which was started back in 2011, some difficulties were due to the limited range of action. Well, after this inclusion, outwardly nothing will happen. The planes will certainly fall, where to go. Anything that has an ignition system, of course, will not work. It will be hard for the satellites, but they do not need to fall, so they will burn. All sorts of tanks and cars there will become trash. Temporarily, of course. Before delivery to the newly organized structure of RosNATOvtorsyryo.
  24. keeper03
    keeper03 26 December 2021 21: 30
    0
    NATO was created to counterbalance the Internal Affairs Directorate, but it remained so to subsequently confront Russia! request So we can't agree with that either! negative If you don’t want something good, it’s going to be bad! am
    Time has gone! soldier