Tell the truth: where is our gold reserve?

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And all the gold in the world


Recently, a number of media outlets calmly informed the public that from January to October 2021, more than 240 tons of gold were exported from Russia. Despite the fact that this is 8% less than a year ago, the volumes exceed the level of production in Russia of the first of the precious metals.

Recall that according to the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation, during the same period, the production of mined gold in the country amounted to only 218,79 tons. In this case, the so-called passing method was mined 12,55 tons, and in secondary production - 25,2 tons of gold.
Voennoye Obozreniye has more than once expressed positive assessments regarding the preservation of a significant part of the country's reserves in gold (The golden burden of Russia).



What has changed in the policy of our monetary authorities and why did the intervention of the highest representatives of the Federal Assembly take to sort this out? The State Duma, as follows from the speech of its chairman Vyacheslav Volodin (pictured), is waiting for an answer from the Bank of Russia why the export of gold from the country is growing.


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Apparently, the Duma members were not embarrassed by the volumes of export, or rather, the sale of precious metal, but the time chosen for such operations, as well as the addressees themselves. At the present time, one cannot but be embarrassed that in October 2021 alone, 30,3 tons of gold, which cost about 1,27 billion pounds (1,7 billion dollars), did not go anywhere, but to the UK.

By itself, the exchange of a real asset for reversible, albeit convertible billions, if also at a good price, is perhaps even a good thing if there really was an acute shortage of currency in the country. For which we just needed to acquire something, and not necessarily here and now.

But after all, most likely, we are talking about the next round of replenishment of the notorious money-boxes, which have started and are tightly controlled by the Central Bank and the Ministry of Finance. But the fact that Russia with reserves, even now, in the midst of a pandemic, everything is quite good, is not a secret even for schoolchildren.

Gold standard


If we have something bad with reserves, it is that they, again, are mostly converted into dollars, euros and the same pounds sterling. That is, now not in colorful pieces of paper with presidents, bridges, kings and queens, but in simple electronic files.

«Take everything, I'll draw myself some more"- remember this legendary phrase of the movie hero from the once almost cult" Wedding in Malinovka "? Once again, the damned bigwigs in the West are treating Russia like a banana republic. And we are happy, humiliating our own people up to the iconic confessions from the highest tribune.

It was from there that it sounded on December 23 that ours, dear readers, real incomes grew by only 3,5 percent with 8 percent inflation. "Can't you catch up with us?"- sorry for another quote, not from a movie, but from a song. In the poverty of the population of such a rich country - that's for sure.

Why don't we keep the gold for ourselves? Only to demonstrate to opponents, who are ready to turn not into competitors, but into direct enemies, their damn loyalty. Show that we are active in the markets and are still ready for dialogue.

In the years after the first default, Russia has achieved in terms of money such that the same West never dreamed of. We settled with the IMF and the World Bank, having become fully involved in the WTO and GATT, where the system can only be called a dictatorship. And we also avoided default a couple of times.

Now we easily get a surplus budget, although mainly at the expense of the common people, and accumulate record reserves. For a rainy day? Well, hasn't he arrived yet? In the event of a real exacerbation, no reserves, and even more so - denominated in dollars, euros and pounds, will certainly not help.

Tell the truth: where is our gold reserve?

Or is everything just done by our business and the ruling elite, in order to bite off their own percentage, and if something happens to shift the blame onto those to whom they sold themselves?

Not all that is gold


It would seem that in modern times we have completely forgotten that the ruble was once backed by gold, and the reserves of the first of the metals were traditionally the envy of enemies. Even pre-revolutionary Russia mined as much gold as the countries that were economically ahead of it could not mine, mind you - all together.

Then there was the legendary "Golden Echelon" and the loss of the gold reserve. In the end, the subsequent accusations of the Bolsheviks in the sale or simply theft of almost "all the gold in Russia" began to be taken for granted.

The protocol order to the Central Bank of the Russian Federation is not a joke at all. After such a short wait, the chair under the chairman of the Board of Directors will swing. And many years of carte blanche from the head of state may not even help. The Iron Lady of the Central Bank is unlikely to be allowed to remain silent.

It is not yet clear to what extent the information held by the Duma members is substantiated. Nevertheless, the very fact that the order to find out what assessment deserves such a large-scale export of gold from the country was made not by someone else, and not even by the main Duma faction, but personally by the Chairman of the State Duma, means a lot.

Needless to say, of what is not renewed, gold is the most reliable security for your own money. Natural wealth and human potential, or a resource, that's whoever you like, of course, it's better, but you still have to work with both.

And gold - that's it, and it shouldn't go anywhere so easily. Is there any law on this? Yes, they are just a dime a dozen. So maybe the Duma members should take up some kind of "golden code", where not only about gold, but about all our other riches to write everything down?
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  1. +18
    December 28 2021
    We have secret devices, but we will not show them to you, you have no security clearance (c)
    1. +22
      December 28 2021
      A device, you say. “A criminal case has been initiated under Part 1 of Art. 4 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation ("Fraud on an especially large scale") ", - said in the document, reports TASS.

      The officer is accused of the fact that from September 2013 to December 2017, on the territory of Moscow, St. Petersburg, Moscow, Saratov and Murmansk regions, he, together with the head of Zavod Elektropribor, Mutalib Emiraliev, and the head of Soyuz-M, Zamir Akhmedov, and by other persons “committed the theft of funds from the Russian Ministry of Defense in the amount of 497 rubles 732 kopecks”. And you are the gold reserve ... This is the reserve.
      1. +14
        December 28 2021
        Is that all? Tiny ... If all the amounts, slightly ... defense costs to announce, then the fun would begin ..... Not to mention the fact that the joyful fans of the "vertical of power" would have disappeared somewhere. As usually happens in some articles wink
      2. +13
        December 28 2021
        Quote: lwxx
        together with the head of JSC "Plant" Electropribor "Mutalib Emiraliev and the head of JSC" Soyuz-M "Zamir Akhmedov
        Yeah. In a normal, multinational state, everyone receives equal rights, but not equal opportunities ... laughing
        1. +19
          December 28 2021
          Quote: Vladimir61
          Yeah. In a normal, multinational state, everyone receives equal rights, but not equal opportunities ...

          And most importantly, they receive completely unequal terms of imprisonment. Someone sews slippers for 10 years, and someone gets off with a slight fright in the form of a conditional 2 years.
      3. 0
        December 29 2021
        What is this for?
    2. +30
      December 28 2021
      A very interesting detail, if Russia continued to replenish the country's gold reserves at the same rate as in previous years) already this year Russia would have outstripped such countries as France and Italy in size))
      And it would become the third among the countries, after the USA and Germany)
      From a psychological point of view, even for their own people, this would be an important step to build confidence in their own currency and its future)
      Instead, the central bank of Russia sold everything and swept everything up) even exceeding the sales quota)
      More than strange)
      Especially when you consider that the largest buyer of this gold was an openly hostile Britain))
      1. +28
        December 28 2021
        Quote: Anchorite
        Instead, the central bank of Russia sold everything and swept everything up) even exceeding the sales quota)

        1. +1
          December 30 2021
          The most VALUABLE is stored in the most RELIABLE place, where the one who decided to save IT will eventually come! bully
      2. +18
        December 28 2021
        We know even less about the gold reserve than about the most secret weapons.
        How much, what, how and where it goes, how much comes well, etc.
        At most, if the excitement starts, the first person will go, well, they will tell you to the place where the gold is stored, will be removed against the background of the piles and the discussion will stop there. And whoever speaks further will receive an agent's badge and a hat.
        1. -50
          December 28 2021
          All gold and foreign exchange reserves are stored in special storage, like other precious metals in Russia - you should not worry about that.
          1. +14
            December 28 2021
            Naturally does not care
        2. +14
          December 28 2021
          Quote: 28st region
          We know even less about the gold reserve than about the most secret weapons.

          But we know about capital outflows.
          Net capital outflow from the private sector from the Russian Federation accelerated to $ 73,9 billion.
          The surplus of the current account of the balance of payments of the Russian Federation grew 11 times over 3,5 months compared to the same period in 2020, and the net capital outflow of the private sector (net lending to non-residents) - 1,5 times, according to data published by the Central Bank
          1. +22
            December 28 2021
            Quote: Hyperion
            But we know about capital outflows.
            Net capital outflow from the private sector from the Russian Federation accelerated to $ 73,9 billion.

            The outflow of investments from the Russian Federation is $ 4 billion per month. Plus all funds in bonds of a potential enemy, gold sales. And after that, there are people here who claim that everything is fine in the country and even praise the wreckers in full power. You really start to believe that they are sitting on the paycheck.
            1. -11
              December 28 2021
              And what are you just talking about the outflow of investments, do you say you invest in Russia for the same period, or do you have that the invested money of foreign investors should always be in Russia, this is not the case in any country in the world everyone invests in each other and withdraws profits and investments - market economy.
              1. +8
                December 29 2021
                The net outflow is the difference between the inflow of investments from abroad and the outflow of investments abroad, thus the figure of almost 74 billion shows us a negative balance. Money bye, bye.
            2. +1
              December 30 2021
              The Central Bank of the Russian Federation is subordinate to the IMF, conclusion! .... "allegedly Russian" gold reserves are managed by the IMF, ...
              Articles of agreement
              International Monetary Fund *
              ----------------

              * The Russian Federation joined the membership of the International Monetary Fund - Resolution of the Supreme Council of the Russian Federation of May 22, 1992 N 2815-1.


              _____________________________________________________________

              Adopted on July 22, 1944 at Bretton Woods, New Hampshire (USA), at the United Nations Monetary and Financial Conference

              (a) Each member state designates its central bank as depositary for all holdings of the Fund in its currency, or, if it does not have a central bank, it designates another institution acceptable to the Fund.
              (b) The Fund may hold other assets, including gold, in depositories designated by the five highest quota Member States and other depositories at the Fund's choice. Initially, at least half of the Fund's holdings are held in a depository designated by the Member State on whose territory the Fund's headquarters are located, and at least forty percent is held in depositories designated by the other four members mentioned above. Moreover, all the Fund transfers of gold shall be made with due regard to the cost of transportation and the anticipated needs of the Fund. In extraordinary circumstances The Executive Board may transfer all or any portion of the Fund's holdings in gold to any locationwhere they can be provided with adequate protection.
          2. -5
            December 30 2021
            good to moan, the cut paper is leaking, and the assets are here. speculators left the stock exchange, immediately howling. who really invests does not go anywhere. investment and trading on stock exchanges are two big differences. They call themselves "investors" because SPECULATOR sounds creepy.
        3. +17
          December 28 2021
          Of course I don't care, it's gold for paying tribute to Western countries. I don’t understand why the gold mined in the Russian Federation is considered the gold of the Russian Federation? If we count on the contrary, it turns out that the Central Bank of the Russian Federation does not work for the Russian Federation, but for "Western partners". Which is in reality. Therefore, the lack of awareness of certain representatives of the government of the Russian Federation causes genuine bewilderment. How then did they achieve their posts without understanding simple things ?!
          1. Alf
            +14
            December 28 2021
            Quote: AKuzenka
            How then did they achieve their posts without understanding simple things ?!

            "The clever are not needed, the faithful are needed" ...
            1. +6
              December 29 2021
              "The clever are not needed, the faithful are needed" ...
              So I am about the same. As they are, professional suckers and do not understand simple things. It doesn't work that way. So they were commanded.
          2. -17
            December 28 2021
            "Of course I don't care, it's gold to pay tribute to Western countries." Finish raving.
            1. +5
              December 29 2021
              So you are delusional, Vadik.
              Only for some reason your delirium always has a pronounced pro-government coloration. negative
            2. +4
              December 29 2021
              You are delusional, since you do not know the simple and ordinary things available to the owner of common sense and Internet access.
      3. +5
        December 28 2021
        Yes, the problem is not exactly how much gold we have or how much we have in those boxes. And in what this money is spent on. Moreover, they are spent, not mastered ... Bo is a separate topic feel
      4. +5
        December 28 2021
        Ask who sells gold in Russia and how. The Central Bank does not sell, gold miners and commercial banks do. If necessary, the Central Bank buys gold on the exchange or, which is now rare, directly from gold miners.
        Great Britain as a state does not buy, just London is the world's largest gold trading center, where our commercial banks and gold miners sell gold.
        1. 0
          December 29 2021
          Finally, there is at least one real comment without any "we pay tribute" and "we supply the enemies with gold." We are not selling to Great Britain, but in Great Britain, because there is the largest gold trading exchange there.
      5. 0
        December 28 2021
        The Central Bank bought gold while it was relatively cheap. Now the prices for gold have jumped and it is not profitable to buy it. In recent years, our gold reserves have already more than doubled. Well this is an ordinary commodity, albeit a liquid one. When it falls in price, it makes sense to buy. And if you buy when it is expensive, then after the price decline, you will get a net loss. This is one of those topics with which the man in the street is constantly powdered by organizing a scandal from scratch. The price will fall, the Central Bank will start buying gold again, and the deputies and journalists will declare it as their override. Like you see - we forced the Central Bank to replenish our gold reserves. Well, they will get some cheap PR. request
        1. 0
          December 29 2021
          Quote: g1v2
          The Central Bank bought gold while it was relatively cheap. Now the prices for gold have jumped and it is not profitable to buy it. In recent years, our gold reserves have already more than doubled. Well this is an ordinary commodity, albeit a liquid one. When it falls in price, it makes sense to buy. And if you buy when it is expensive, then after the price decline, you will get a net loss. This is one of those topics with which the man in the street is constantly powdered by organizing a scandal from scratch. The price will fall, the Central Bank will start buying gold again and the deputies and journalists will declare this as their change. Like you see - we forced the Central Bank to replenish our gold reserves. Well, they will get some cheap PR. request

          That's all right. In 2019, an ounce of gold was worth $ 2000, this year it dropped to 1750-1800, and in 2022 they forecast a decline to $ 1600 for the same ounce. In fact, losses from simple storage of the metal will amount to $ 400 per ounce, which means working at a loss, and therefore it is necessary to sell on the fall. When the price reaches the bottom point and moves to growth, then it is more profitable to buy it into your reserves, since simply lying in stacks it will already bring profit to the treasury, not losses. Kind of like a common strategy. request
          1. +3
            December 29 2021
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            Quote: g1v2
            The Central Bank bought gold while it was relatively cheap. Now the prices for gold have jumped and it is not profitable to buy it. In recent years, our gold reserves have already more than doubled. Well this is an ordinary commodity, albeit a liquid one. When it falls in price, it makes sense to buy. And if you buy when it is expensive, then after the price decline, you will get a net loss. This is one of those topics with which the man in the street is constantly powdered by organizing a scandal from scratch. The price will fall, the Central Bank will start buying gold again and the deputies and journalists will declare this as their change. Like you see - we forced the Central Bank to replenish our gold reserves. Well, they will get some cheap PR. request

            That's all right. In 2019, an ounce of gold was worth $ 2000, this year it dropped to 1750-1800, and in 2022 they forecast a decline to $ 1600 for the same ounce. In fact, losses from simple storage of the metal will amount to $ 400 per ounce, which means working at a loss, and therefore it is necessary to sell on the fall. When the price reaches the bottom point and moves to growth, then it is more profitable to buy it into your reserves, since simply lying in stacks it will already bring profit to the treasury, not losses. Kind of like a common strategy. request

            I doubt very much that the state buys gold from miners at the market price, rather at some kind of fixed
            1. +2
              December 29 2021
              Quote: Pilat2009
              I doubt very much that the state buys gold from miners at the market price, rather at some kind of fixed

              You can doubt it, but you cannot buy gold at a price lower than the market price, and the market price is set by the London Stock Exchange. The state can beat the miners with an increased duty on the sale over the hillock, then it will not be profitable for them to sell gold over the cordon and they will sell it to the domestic market.
              1. +2
                December 29 2021
                Quote: Nyrobsky
                The state can pay the earners an increased duty on the sale over the hill,

                Now, on the contrary, they have simplified the sale over the hill.
                And it is interesting why not a single gold mine remained in the ownership of the state.
                1. +1
                  December 29 2021
                  And they almost all went bankrupt. The mines (and in the Russian Federation most of the gold was mined from placers) collapsed in the 90s almost immediately, unable to withstand the load of the social network that hung on them, and the miners turned around. Likewise, the mines. Moreover, the latter also required large investments in exploration and equipment renewal, and in the 90s this was bad, and world gold prices were at the bottom. Therefore, they let everything go to privatization.
                  1. 0
                    December 29 2021
                    Quote: old_pferd
                    And they almost all went bankrupt.

                    Have you ever wondered why they are profitable now? wink
                    Privatizing gold mining is a very short-sighted decision.
                    For gold, with all price fluctuations, is much more profitable as a means of investing savings.
                    Just look at the growth in value over 30 years.
                    1. 0
                      December 29 2021
                      They are not. Most of these are new mines. The rise of the gold mining industry in the Russian Federation began in the early 2000s, when world gold prices began to rise from $ 300 per ounce to the current one. By the end of the decade, licenses were swept away in stride. And at the expense of private money, everything has risen.
                    2. 0
                      January 17 2022
                      What is the shortsightedness? The Central Bank just buys gold and that's it. And what does it matter to him - who produces it. Commercial banks finance gold mining - for example, there is such a Lanta Bank - it has been doing this all its life - and even sells half a kilo and a kilo of bullion to citizens. And so sells the Central Bank. The Central Bank buys according to the London fixing, it does not matter to him who sells it - an artel, a bank, a Krasnoyarsk non-ferrous metal plant.
                      1. -2
                        January 17 2022
                        Quote: sumotori
                        The Central Bank just buys gold and that's it.

                        As the realities of this year have shown, they sell it. And in past years, they did not buy enough, preferring to invest in the dollar and securities of the "partner" countries.
                      2. +1
                        January 17 2022
                        You fantasize and demonstrate your stupidity.
                      3. -3
                        January 17 2022
                        But you shine with "smartness"! laughing Burn on! good
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                      5. -1
                        January 17 2022
                        Judging by the manner of communication, you did not deal in gold, but worked as a gold miner ..... laughing
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              2. 0
                December 30 2021
                I think, when it was necessary, there was an agreement between the state and the miners to buy from them at a fixed price up to a certain amount. After that, miners have the right to sell gold through the exchange in London at exchange prices, including to compensate for previous losses when purchasing by the state from them. In addition, part of the gold can be exported to purchase something necessary at the request of a seller who does not want
                sell your goods for any piece of paper in our not calm time. So something like that.
                1. +1
                  January 17 2022
                  Why would the Central Bank enter into an agreement with an artel to buy 20 kilos of gold. CB has nothing to do. The Central Bank works with banks that finance gold mining - so in the spring they give artels to mines and others money to bring everything into the forest - tractors, diesel fuel, food, etc. And miners of all kinds give gold in autumn. And banks also supply gold from factories after being melted down in the Central Bank. The Central Bank bought up to 200 tons per year.
                  1. -3
                    January 17 2022
                    Quote: sumotori
                    The Central Bank bought up to 200 tons per year.

                    From 2014 to 2019. After less than 20 tons per year.
                    Study - https://www.forbes.ru/biznes/451337-bez-zapasa-pocemu-rossia-vtoroj-god-podrad-vyvozit-pocti-vse-dobytoe-zoloto
                    Quote: sumotori
                    There is nowhere for him to put it.

                    Yes, you are crazy.... lol
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            2. +1
              January 17 2022
              According to the London fix and buys. That's how I got paid in the 90s.
            3. 0
              February 4 2022
              The state takes high taxes and excises, and not the low purchase price of gold.
  2. +8
    December 28 2021
    Tell the truth: where is our gold reserve?

    Yes, only there was. request
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  3. +3
    December 28 2021
    There are a bunch of other financial instruments that affect the exchange rate,% on government loans, etc. you need to know this mechanism .... it's not just: "sold, but it was necessary not to sell!"
    1. -7
      December 28 2021
      The only sensible comment. What are the cons?

      1. -13
        December 28 2021
        And here is where it is stored


        You need to understand that gold is stored in foreign banks for quick settlements and as a guarantee for trading operations.
        1. +2
          December 28 2021
          Quite right ... but there are times when the Turks bought oil from Iran and paid in gold ...
        2. +2
          December 28 2021
          Payments for Ukraine.
          A treaty under the guise of "Confrontation between the West and Russia."
      2. +3
        December 29 2021
        Cons, for justifying the actions of the Central Bank. Not even an excuse, but only an assumption of the actions of the Central Bank with gold, on the international financial market. It turns out that they did not steal.
  4. +9
    December 28 2021
    With the change in the economic course, it became clear that there was a shortage of securities (including securities) in Russia.
    The initiative to check the state of the country's gold reserves and the accelerated export of gold through GB, Switzerland to the United States lies with the deputies from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation.
    We were told that not all that glitters is gold. Today they lead to the idea:
    "Whoever has a stock is also a gold one."
  5. +11
    December 28 2021
    At the present time, one cannot but be embarrassed that in October 2021 alone, 30,3 tons of gold, which cost about 1,27 billion pounds (1,7 billion dollars), did not go anywhere, but to the UK.
    Ay-ay-ay, and who did it ah-ah-ah-ah? request Nose it, nose! angry
    1. +13
      December 28 2021
      "Abrashke-from grandfather Volodya"
  6. +15
    December 28 2021
    Then there was the legendary "Golden Echelon" and the loss of the gold reserve.

    Then there was the "gold of the Party" and again the loss of the gold reserve. Starting from the periodicity of such an action in certain periods of history, one can think about it. And so I don’t understand what does a private shop called the Central Bank have to do with the country's gold reserves? "Iron Lady of the Central Bank" in the sweat of her brow ran the dredge? Or are these already some results of the behind-the-scenes agreements on the "ultimatum"? (As it is stubbornly called).
    1. +12
      December 28 2021
      Then there was the legendary "Golden Echelon"

      The accumulated reserve of gold in Russia before the First World War was 1,4 thousand tons.
      On October 29, 1918, Germany accepted the terms of the armistice. One of the points dictated by the winners was the return of the Russian gold reserve and on November 27, 1918, 320 million rubles. Russian gold entered the Banque de France. At the exchange rate, this amounted to 247,755 tons of gold. To understand the scale of prices of that time, it is enough to say that the battleship "Empress Maria" cost the treasury only 28 tons of gold.
      The Bolsheviks have nothing to do with this gold. These 320 million gold reserves were transferred by St. Nick 2 to the Kaiser before the war. The genius of Nick 2 is that before that he entered into a military alliance with France against Germany. - Finally!
      On August 7, 1918, the Kolchakites captured the tsarist gold reserve, which the Bolsheviks inherited from Kerensky. In total, according to the data of the Russian emigrant S.G. Petrov, published in the 1990s, as of November 1917, the reserves of the central bank of imperial Russia, taking into account the 38,75 tons received from the mines during the war years, in the amount of 50 million rubles, amounted to 852,97 tons of gold worth 1101,69, XNUMX million rubles
      After that, Great Tyring began. Gold from the state reserve was stolen in tons by all and sundry. And how much exactly was "stolen", apparently, will forever remain a mystery of history. In numerous articles on the subject of Kolchak's gold, it is said that a gold reserve in the amount of 650 million gold was seized in Kazan. rubles or 503 tons at the pre-war ruble exchange rate. This is an outright lie. Only in May 1919, a group of employees of the Omsk Bank began to recount gold, after which it was established by an act of May 10, 1919 that in total there was gold in Omsk in the amount of 651 rubles. Those. of the original 532 tons of gold reserves by that time, only 117 tons remained if you count at the pre-war exchange rate of the ruble. These are 852,97 million evils. rubles and are called in our time as captured in Kazan in August 504. Judging by the report, at that time, one hundred million rubles in banknotes, the royal reserves of platinum (how much is not known exactly) and at least 651 poods (1918 tons) of silver coins had already completely evaporated. To the honor of the Bulkokhrusta, it must be said that by May 30000, 492, no gold had yet been stolen that was not included in the state reserve - gold parts of instruments belonging to the Main Chamber of Weights and Measures, gold frames for icons, along with icons, other items of religious cult made of gold and precious stones, etc. They were plundered later.
      On November 9, 1919, the evacuation of the gold reserve from Omsk began. On the way, he was stopped by the ataman G.S. Semyonov, and despite Kolchak's cries by telegraph, he unloaded 711 six-pound boxes of gold coins worth 70-90 million gold rubles (from 54 to 70 tons) from the echelon for his personal expenses. This weight spread of the stolen goods is explained by the fact that some of the boxes were emptied even before that. It is not known how and where the steamer "Permyak" by the Pepeliaev brothers with gold from the royal treasury disappeared. Ataman of the Ussuriysk Cossacks esaul I.M. Kalmykov took 36 poods (590,4 kg) of gold, etc., etc. to Manchuria. According to the inventory of the White Guard Minister of Finance V.I. Moravian chieftains alone transferred 10 million gold to Japan. rubles, 170 thousand US dollars, 25 thousand pounds sterling, 424 thousand gold. francs, 450 thousand Mexican dollars (were the official currency of China, the name of the yuan comes from the Mexican peso, the yuan is a round coin).
      To this day, enthusiasts are looking for Kolchak's gold throughout Siberia. In vain chores. About 200 tons were transferred to Japan, which then waived any debt obligations. After the civil war, about 3 million pounds sterling (22 tons) were credited to the accounts of the Kolchakites in London in the name of K.E. von Substitution, in New York $ 22,5 million (37,6 tons) - on the account of S.A. Ugeta, over 6 million yen (9 tons) in Tokyo - K.K. Miller. This is only part of the list that the USSR tried to return.
      Ultimately, of the 852,4 tons of gold reserves captured by Kolchak (about other things, "redheads", platinum, silver, etc. Bulkokhrust fans are modestly silent), only 316,7 tons were returned by the Czechs to the Bolsheviks for travel on TRANSSIB. Of the "evaporated" gold reserves, the fate of only 150 tons is known, officially donated by Kolchak to the "allies". In fact, it was a bribe for the international recognition of the Kolchak government, which was never received. The rest, including hundreds of tons of unaccounted for jewelry, was banally plundered.
      I will especially note that Kolchak bought weapons not for gold, but on credit, the receipt of which was agreed upon by Kerensky. At the same time, Kolchak not only guaranteed the "allies" payment of the debts of the tsarist government and Kerensky in the amount of 18,5 billion gold rubles, which is equivalent to 23895 tons of gold. He renegotiated for these debts a new debt agreement on the payment of loans at double interest rates. Of course, these debts had to be paid off by the population of Russia, already robbed by the Whites and the interventionists. The funny thing about this is that the credit used by Kolchak to fight the Bolsheviks, the Entente demanded to pay Lenin along with the tsarist debts.
      At the time of Stalin's death in March 1953, the USSR's gold reserves were 2500 tons of gold. At the end of 1953, there were already 2049,8 tons of it. However, for some reason, this figure is taken as the starting point for Khrushchev's "revelry", and not the initial 2500 tons.
      At the time of Khrushchev's displacement in 1964, the gold reserve amounted to 1330 tons. In total, Khrushchev spent 1170 tons of gold from the Stalinist treasury for various "needs". But that's just the tip of the iceberg. In the 30s, the average annual gold production in the USSR was approximately 250 tons. There is no reason to believe that in the 50s it became smaller. Therefore, for 11 years of the Khrushchev region, at least another 2750 tons of gold should have been mined. Those. Nikita spent at least 4 thousand tons of gold on his projects. In total for the period 1953-1991. The USSR sold 8,2 thousand tons of "solar metal" on world markets.
      After the beginning of Perestroika, the next stage of Velikiy Tyringa began. Only from 1989 to 1991. more than 2,3 thousand tons of gold were "distilled" abroad. As of October 1, 1995, the gold reserve of the Russian Federation was only 115 tons.
      1. +8
        December 28 2021
        Quote: Old electrician
        only 316,7 tons were returned to the Bolsheviks by the Czechs for travel on TRANSSIB.

        But after the return of Czech legionnaires from Russia, the gold reserve of the Czech state bank increased sharply recourse And why so request
  7. +11
    December 28 2021
    where is our gold reserve?

    "..... in bags,
    - And where are the bags?
    - Under the eyes. "(C, anecdote)
  8. +22
    December 28 2021
    It will be "fun" when it turns out that only "painted" gold is stored in the Russian Federation. And the real was taken out to the "partners" ... (
    1. -29
      December 28 2021
      well, find out first, and then write stupid comments
      1. +9
        December 28 2021
        Quote: Barberry25
        well, find out first, and then write stupid comments

        I apologize, but I understand that you own 100% of the information that ALL gold is in the territory of the Russian Federation?
        Sincerely, hi
    2. +2
      December 28 2021
      Once upon a time, there was information about the fact that sho in the conditional Fort Knox is also not entirely gold. They just didn't say shikoko percent laughing
      1. -5
        December 28 2021
        flickered flickering, but taking into account two points that the Americans do not let those who handed in gold for checks and with the fact that they sold tungsten to the Chinese under the guise of gold ... And you can find out what reasons to believe that we have no gold? foot in the subject?
        1. +4
          December 28 2021
          Eeee ...... I said somewhere that he is not?
          If you notice the word "too" wink , then it did not relate entirely to this. And to the wonderful organization of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation in general and to its policies, in particular. No more. The difference between them is that they are both bulldozers, only one rowing under itself, and the second - from itself. No more. IChSKh, I understand that, in general, the Central Bank is subordinate to the government. Whether it's good or bad ..... Taking into account his policy ...... But this is "a long conversation for a long journey" ....
          1. -9
            December 28 2021
            more precisely, this is from the story about "Fedorov and his bikes" .. Well, "every janitor knows how to run the country." with the replenishment of the NWF, but since this year the budget is in deficit, and money is taken from the NWF, there were no purchases of gold, even the Central Bank sold several tons itself, this explains why the export of gold from the country increased.
            1. +1
              December 28 2021
              Well, "every janitor knows how to run the country."

              Well, you are definitely not a janitor?
              In addition, for not only dvornikoff ..... About an article for some differences in business here and in Canada, even aunt Vika knows. Not yet demolished, at least. CHSH, after it all sorts of different people stopped puffing their cheeks and asking stupid questions. And there just for the state ... True, without the janitors ...
              Quote, or do you know? feel
              1. -6
                December 28 2021
                you better provide evidence of your own words that there is no gold in the gold reserves of Russia ..
                1. +3
                  December 28 2021
                  That is, we are no longer arguing for economic policy.? And then bread))))
                  And for the absence of redheads in Russia ... Where did I say that? you are our party ...
                  1. -6
                    December 28 2021
                    those. banally wrote nonsense?
                    1. +3
                      December 28 2021
                      I do, you are our party, I repeat .... Where did I say that we have no gold? It seems like I said a couple of times that I'm not sure about this ..... Can't switch in any way? Milk tea helps .....
                      And since the Central Bank is the honor of the financial system, which is a part of the economy, do you want to muddle over the economy?
                      1. -6
                        December 28 2021
                        If you are not sure, then first figure it out, and then actively promote your point of view to the masses) No, I don’t want to, I don’t see the point of pouring from empty to empty) you are your party party)
                      2. +3
                        December 28 2021
                        There is nothing to talk about and glory to Gd)))) luck at the box office feel
                      3. -6
                        December 28 2021
                        classic..when it comes to facts it starts draining and bleating
                      4. 0
                        December 29 2021
                        The classic is that the "voice of the party" has nothing to answer, it, the voice, begins to purr. For many years....
                        By and large, neither those who say there is no red hair, nor those who say, there are mountains of it - there are no facts. All these links and proofs, the so-called, in this case - nothing.
                        But, as I said, given that the central bank is part of finance, and finance is part of the economy ... Certain conclusions can be drawn by looking at the economy. ITS completely hide the siskin, the tea is not red ...
                      5. -4
                        December 29 2021
                        those. you cannot confirm your own statements about "there is no gold there" .. You can only make one conclusion - you are not in the subject, you have no facts, but only bare conjectures, which, apart from empty words, cannot be confirmed .. next time it is better to be silent- you will pass for a smart one
                      6. +2
                        December 29 2021
                        So after all, you, our robotic one, cannot confirm, can you? wink
                        You have exactly the same
                        you have no facts, but only bare speculation, which, apart from empty words, you cannot confirm ...
                      7. -5
                        December 29 2021
                        burden of proof on the claimant - claim that there is no gold there - please grow eggs and confirm your words, and not bleat) and also that I am robotic in the proof studio)
                      8. 0
                        December 29 2021
                        My God, what words do you know ... Burden .....
                        I have never said that there is no gold. so, once again, just in case, albeit to no avail .... To doubt the effectiveness of the actions of the central bank, as well as the entire economy - yes, it was. For this you can talk ...
                        For redheads ... Nobody knows, neither you, nor I, nor anyone else ... Those who know are modestly silent)))
                        And since you, unlike a living person, hammer only your Wishlist, without reacting to anything else - hence the assumption)))
                      9. -4
                        December 29 2021
                        oooh, let's go cheap excuses - I'm not me, I didn't mean that, you misunderstood me .. In general, a cheap drain .. did not even try to prove their words .. laughing
                      10. +3
                        December 29 2021
                        Classic blizzard)))) Congratulations !! And yet what about the words - in more detail ??
                      11. -4
                        December 29 2021
                        Dmitry, you'd better keep quiet, well, by God ..
                      12. 0
                        December 29 2021
                        ooh let's get cheap excuses
                2. +4
                  December 28 2021
                  Are you sure that the wipers are not running the country now? Well no? Why not?
                  1. -5
                    December 28 2021
                    because not wipers)
                    1. +4
                      December 28 2021
                      These are not windshield wipers now, but before? What is confidence and why? Afraid to find out the truth?
                      1. -5
                        December 28 2021
                        to evaluate the effectiveness you need to have experience and competence .. otherwise the "wiper effect" .. but you better prove that we have wipers in our hands)
                      2. +3
                        December 28 2021
                        You are very interesting. You remind the song of one madam - I want it so much, I haven't finished all summer ... Remember, the farther of the USSR, assenting to the United States, said sucking up to the president - no matter how much halva you say, your mouth will not be sweeter. The labeled one assented but there will be heartburn. God, how funny he is.
                      3. -7
                        December 28 2021
                        Are you better than Gorbachev? You sing the praises of how bad everything is now and how everything needs to be changed .. One to one like Gorby .. Apparently the sayings "if we don't store, we cry when we lose" and "memory like a fish" is about you
                      4. +2
                        December 28 2021
                        Now it's absolutely not bad thanks to Stalin. If he treated the defense of the country, as now, then now it would not be! Here Stalin took care of the umbrella and the prick with an umbrella. And the feudalists have forgotten about him for good. Previously, the Land of Soviets was feared, but now they are not afraid of this Russia. Only the enemy of Russia will keep stolen from the enemies of Russia and shout that he will erase them into powder. In Ukraine, it was called so - Goliy to fight for a head start and shouting, his shirt is torn! Now the case resembles that man who washes his pants in the river and condemns - no one can be trusted, not even himself. After all, I just wanted to kick ...
                      5. -4
                        December 29 2021
                        As I already wrote above, you are just another Gorbachev, who declared in the same way that everything is bad, that nothing will be better and everything needs to be changed ... So don't believe yourself, you are fucked up ..
                      6. +3
                        December 29 2021
                        With you, then what? Who trusts you besides yourself. And that is not always the case. They could even answer only after washing. What kind of speech? You even chomp in conversation.
                      7. -4
                        December 29 2021
                        wow, couldn’t come up with anything else? hmm, it’s ridiculous, well then, boil yourself in your juice) and the next time you decide to get into someone else’s argument, at least give arguments ..
                      8. +2
                        December 29 2021
                        You are boring and don't look after yourself. These are the green flies that feed exclusively on shit. Then they climb in the face. I wrote it specially, so that they could guess.
                      9. -3
                        December 29 2021
                        the funny thing is that in this case, the green fly is just you) .. so I repeat, the arguments, and since they are not there, cook in your juice further
  9. -5
    December 28 2021
    I am more interested in after the zeroing of $ in May 2021 in the NWF and the transfer of $ 23 billion into gold, how much of it is now in the NWF, the amount is astronomical and attractive.
    1. -7
      December 28 2021
      in October there were 2295,44 tons
      1. 0
        December 28 2021
        In the NWF or in the gold and absolute reserves of the Central Bank? hi
        1. -4
          December 28 2021
          in the gold reserves of pure gold
  10. +16
    December 28 2021
    It is high time to put the Central Bank under the control of the state so that the head of the Central Bank and the State Duma should report, and not go (a) to report overseas.
    The sworn friends do not need any other "5th column" with such a status of the Central Bank.
    1. -10
      December 28 2021
      but you can find out .. you gold this year for what were going to buy?
  11. +5
    December 28 2021
    The protocol order to the Central Bank of the Russian Federation is not a joke at all. After such a short wait, the chair under the chairman of the Board of Directors will swing.
    An interesting note. The idea was repeatedly expressed here that the Central Bank is not controlled by the state. Isn't there a reason to correct this misunderstanding?
    1. +2
      December 28 2021
      "... the Central Bank is not controlled by the state ...."
      This is according to our constitution. But the head of the Central Bank is controlled by the state
      1. -10
        December 28 2021
        It is also controlled - without approval from above, the Central Bank does not make any important decisions on its own.
        1. AUL
          +5
          December 28 2021
          Quote: Vadim237
          It is also controlled - without approval from above, the Central Bank does not make any important decisions on its own.

          From which top? Central Bank, Gazprom, Neftyanka and a couple more characters are the very top, which appoints the composition of the Duma and Federation Council. And you dreamed that some kind of thought could order nabibulikha laughing !
          1. -6
            December 28 2021
            The very top - the government of the Central Bank is subordinate to it as Gazprom and all other state offices are important issues on their own, no one decides everything is coordinated with the government.
    2. 0
      December 28 2021
      Ibonefig wink What was it made for?
  12. +3
    December 28 2021
    When gold was cheap it was almost completely bought up by the state from gold miners in reserves, which caused criticism, they say, why invest money in metal, albeit precious, when the price for it is falling, Canada has given up on reserves in gold altogether, etc.

    Now, on the contrary, the price of gold is expensive and the state, already having a large share of reserves in gold, decided this year not to buy gold in reserves, but to allow its export, so that companies that mine it could earn, and the state would receive foreign exchange earnings. The companies sold what production and probably some of the reserves, which is why export is more than production, it seems that the Central Bank itself sold gold this year (I could be wrong here).

    So, I don't see any trouble or problems here. And the fact that rich Western countries buy gold is also normal, but I would like Serbia or Belarus to buy gold from us instead of Britain, but they have nothing to do with it.

    Gold also has a drawback, it is more difficult to exchange it for currency in large volumes and it is also not very convenient for them to pay.

    So, everything is fine with us both with reserves and with gold.
    1. -7
      December 28 2021
      yes, this is exactly how things are, this year even 6 tons of gold reserves were sold
    2. +12
      December 28 2021
      Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
      Gold also has a drawback, it is more difficult to exchange it for currency in large volumes and it is also not very convenient for them to pay.

      This drawback is more than offset by the "lack of gold content in the currency", which turns such a currency into a piece of paper, worth the printing work performed on it ... Yes
    3. 0
      January 17 2022
      Thank you, at least you write reasonable words. Some maydanutye around.
  13. +15
    December 28 2021
    But the fact that Russia has reserves, even now, in the midst of a pandemic, everything is quite good

    The author strangely understands the word reserves .. As if they were bags of money buried in the garden for a rainy day. In fact, these are not any reserves of the country. This is the guarantee of the corporate debts of the Russian bourgeoisie. Which are in these debts - to the very top. The total corporate debt of all Russian companies is approximately $ 600 billion US dollars .. The total debt of only 10 state-owned companies from Russia amounted to ₽9,2 trillion .. And so on ..

    And to cover all this curse - and there are gold reserves of the Russian Federation. And not at all in order to pour them into the economy or there to make life easier for the people. Forget about gold reserves - they are not ours.
    1. +4
      December 28 2021
      Excuse me, you can ask a question. Why did you write the debt of all companies in billions of US dollars, and the total debt of 10 government laughing ) wrote in trillions of rubles? So is it recommended in the manual? laughing
      1. +4
        December 28 2021
        No - I was just too lazy, especially for you, dear, I was too lazy to reduce quotes from different sources to a common denominator .. Moreover, the exact amount is not so important, the main thing is that the RF gold reserves are approximately equal to corporate debts. And this is their true essence.

        But you need to know how the Unified State Exam affects people - it's too lazy to convert rubles to dollars on a calculator ..
        1. -1
          December 28 2021
          9200/70 can be done in your head and in all sorts of ways faster than composing an excuse laughing
          What about the 10 government? Would you like to disclose their list? Or too lazy?
        2. -12
          December 28 2021
          And you are aware that the debts of companies, whether public or private, are divided into internal and external.
    2. +2
      December 28 2021
      Quote: paul3390
      And to cover all this curse - and there are gold reserves of the Russian Federation.

      And for the "accursed" the country and the people flesh.
      1. +10
        December 28 2021
        Quote: tihonmarine
        flesh the country and the people.

        1. -14
          December 28 2021
          You can give the details of your post when, in what year and what 6 trillion the Central Bank transferred to the United States.
          1. +8
            December 28 2021
            Quote: Vadim237
            You can details

            And you contact Nabibullina directly and she will give you a detailed reference on translations, and by year ... hi
            This year alone, $ 65 billion was exported ...
            1. -6
              December 28 2021
              I ask you this - if you post information, it means you are in the know. Only this year, 65 billion dollars were exported ... Who was exported and where was it exported? You'd better figure out what the export of capital is - money and then write - it includes the net profit of foreign investors from Russian factories; dividends from shares bought by foreigners; repayment of public debts, again, public and private investments in foreign companies, etc. if you have not forgotten, we live in a market open economy, investment and capital withdrawal is a normal practice for all countries of the world. And your post about the fact that Nabiuina personally transferred 6 trillion rubles to the United States is crap sucked out of her finger.
              1. +2
                December 29 2021
                Quote: Vadim237
                crap sucked out of the finger

                It's up to you, believe it or not ... hi
            2. -3
              December 29 2021
              Quote from Uncle Lee
              This year alone, $ 65 billion was exported ...

              Forgive me, how do you know, can you provide reliable proof? The style is the same as that of an independent one, it's just that shit is frozen with a serious face
    3. -2
      December 28 2021
      you wrote nonsense
    4. +11
      December 28 2021
      Quote: paul3390
      Forget about gold reserves - they are not ours.

      What does this come out of? Gold reserves are not ours. NWF - profanation in the form of papers. PFR is a little money-box from which everyone who is lazy can take it. Is the Central Bank a third-party organization that reconciles its activities in Basel?
      What is gold reserve?

      You have correctly noticed about external debt. We are even told that this debt should not be a cause for concern: some have taken it, but everyone will have to pay, but others and not today ... But these external debts require servicing in the form of interest. And not at all the 0,5% that Sberbank gives on deposits. The national debt is growing. Potential profit from the increased prices for hydrocarbons goes to shareholders and who knows where ...
    5. -7
      December 28 2021
      You strangely understand the meaning of the words "corporate debt" and for some reason associate it with reserves.

      What incidents were there when the country's reserves were spent on paying off the debt of some company?

      Abroad, large companies, starting with Rosneft and Gazprom, borrow funds in foreign currency for the implementation of their projects. In Russia, few people will borrow so much for them, and if they do, the %% will be higher.

      Moreover, all these companies have foreign exchange earnings from exports and pay their debts themselves. Yes, the state acts as a guarantor of debt repayment, but the companies pay themselves and the country's reserves have nothing to do with this.

      Reserves are what accumulated due to the budget rule, where everything above 42 (approximately) dollars per barrel goes not to the budget, but to reserves.

      So that everything is ours there.
      1. +3
        December 28 2021
        No .. What happens is something like the following. They borrow in foreign currency, but inside the country they operate in rubles. For we cannot pay in currency. And the bulk of project costs are again in rubles. So what's going on?

        Here Pupkin and Co took, say, 100 bucks. For which he wants to build a paid toilet. What's next? Pupkin sells these 100 bucks to the Central Bank, and conditionally receives 7000r. For which the toilet project is being implemented. What is the Central Bank doing with these bucks? Enrolls itself in the gold reserves. Is this the currency? But can he spend them? Of course not - after all, Pupkin needs to be repaid, and in foreign currency! Which will go to buy as soon as the rubles are earned, from the same Central Bank. And he will give him back his own currency, won't he? Plus he will sell for more interest on the debt.

        Thus, can the state spend Pupkin's $ 100 on anything? Alas .. That is why - a significant part of the gold reserves is just covering the foreign currency debts of the business, right? And it does not belong to us, even burst. So - take the gold reserves, deduct ALL foreign currency debts of businesses and individuals of the Russian Federation, and now you can operate on the remainder .. I assure you - it will not be very large ..

        Of course - in fact, everything is much more complicated and there are a lot of nuances, but in principle - so.
        1. -1
          December 29 2021
          Quote: paul3390
          But can he spend them? Of course not

          Why is that? They came up with it themselves, they themselves proved it.
      2. 0
        December 30 2021
        Ratmir_Ryazan - Your quote: "What were the incidents when the country's reserves were spent on paying the debt of some company?" - Have you completely lost your memory? During the "crisis" of 2008-2009, all the "reserves" were distributed to banks - not only interest-free - FREE OF CHARGE! Stupidly pulled away by their own. In 2014-2015, this "operation" was repeated, and to return at least one ruble from these to the brazen plundered reserves - there is no chance. They explain it all this way - bankers have taken loans over the hill, there is nothing to give back, it is necessary to save the country's banking system. Now we are waiting for the next "crisis" to be announced and once again all the stocks will be plundered.
        And yet, a small addition about the global "crisis" - the PRC economy in 2008 and 2009 grew by 6-7% per year, the Indian economy in the same years grew by 6% per year, the Vietnamese economy grew by 6% per year - that is, half (!!!) of humanity did not have a "crisis". Question: whose (personally) merit is that the Russian Federation found itself in another "crisis" half of humanity? hi
  14. +14
    December 28 2021
    Every day, with every article, I understand Comrade Stalin more and more ...
    1. +14
      December 28 2021
      I understand Comrade Stalin

      Because his cause was right, and Victory will ultimately be with him anyway! And for the Soviet power.

      1. +2
        December 28 2021
        Quote: paul3390
        Victory - in the end it will still be his!

        You see, half is against how much it will be in 10 years.
  15. +2
    December 28 2021
    Tell the truth: where is our gold reserve?
    ... A "good" topic for an active verbal skirmish ... all the more, no one from the sofa experts, no one will inform anyone.
  16. +6
    December 28 2021
    "-Oh! Bogatyr ..
    -Where is my gold?
    -It's not yours!
    -That's right, our gold! "(C)
  17. +6
    December 28 2021
    I don't trust our bankers at all, but
    30,3 tons of gold, which is worth around £ 1,27 billion ($ 1,7 billion)
    on the scale of interstate affairs, this amount is quite modest. In 2020, the volume of our mutual trade with the WB was USD 26.5 billion. Of which, SUDDENLY 23.2 billion were sold by WE. This is such a small pebble in the garden of leavened patriots who like to talk about the strangulation and the ugly Englishwoman.
    The gold tranche could be a security payment for some kind of technology sale to us, for example. Because the journey of paper today is much easier to trace than the journey of gold. Of course, the corruption component is also not ruled out, but the external affairs of our state were often so muddy, so the opposite may be true.
    1. -18
      December 28 2021
      There is a precious metals exchange in Great Britain and there you can exchange gold at the rate for rare earth metals for our industry, you can sell a part, get money and buy equipment and buy rare earth metals, and so on there are many options.
  18. +12
    December 28 2021
    I am certainly not an expert on gold, but there are some thoughts. First of all, what is the system in the country? - capitalism. There are no films about Russian banks. But from foreign ones such as "Bad Banks" or "Octopus" we can guess what kind of viper there is. The question is who generally monitors gold mining and its storage and sale? Why don't we have Fort Knox? Why do we export gold instead of storing it on our territory and, if sold, store it like in a safe deposit box? Or, for example, I wanted to buy Zimbabwe gold from Botswana, which is stored with us, please exchanged checks and sleep well. Also, according to the documents, gold is virtually in London but stored in Russia.
    Why is there no settling tank after gold mining to clear it of crime, That is, who, where, under what license it was mined, how did it compensate for the damage to the environment.
    And further. Gold mining is a severe blow to the ecology of the territory where gold is mined. Gold mining factories usually stand on rivers with the purest drinking water, which is completely killed by their technology of gold mining. soldier
  19. +13
    December 28 2021
    An interesting topic about gold, you can also ask about the Central Bank, whose it is in fact ... I don’t want to be silly, but when Russia is squeezed out like a lemon, having pumped out raw materials and Soviet technical reserve, our "masters of life" will have the last thing before leaving for the West , to the acquired by back-breaking labor.
  20. +15
    December 28 2021
    We have traded in gold before. And ultimately through London, through Switzerland, it got to America. And that's not the problem. Gold, like grain, and metals were included in the list of non-resource resources, and in the middle of summer, the law allowed not to return the monetary assets received from the sale. Recently, a representative of the Central Bank justified this action. Allegedly, money abroad has a mirror-like positive effect on us. In general, a continuous looking glass.
  21. +12
    December 28 2021
    If Nabiulina had a device, she would put it with the device on all these dumas, ministries and other functionaries. The Central Bank implements the policy of the IMF (and only it) and it does not care from the high bell tower that our parliamentarians are rustling there. Even if they remove it, it will not solve anything. The Central Bank is not our national bank and the process of its nationalization is not about being led by this or that character. The same can be said about our Constitution. Until the Central Bank and the Constitution meet exclusively our national interests, until the share of foreign capital in mining companies drops to at least 25%, all this talk (I'm talking about an article) is no better than a discussion of the color and style of underwear, which thread of Ksyushadi ... Those. pure balala and pink info-noise, which only distracts.
    1. -9
      December 28 2021
      If she puts the hell on the government tomorrow, she leaves her post - the IMF for the Central Bank is only of a recommendatory nature; it was in the 90s when Russia took loans from the IMF for the economy - now it is not.
      1. +2
        December 29 2021
        Quote: Vadim237
        If she puts the hell on the government tomorrow, she will fly out of her post - the IMF for the Central Bank is only of a recommendatory nature, the executive nature was in the 90s when the IMF

        Talk nonsense. Neither one nor the other will do this. Nabiulina will not be unnecessarily greedy, because she does not need it, she already has all the control levers of the Central Bank. The government will not pinch her because there is no point in this, since Nabiulin is a well-known foreign agent, whose actions can be calculated, and instead of her an unknown person may arise, from whom it is not known what can be expected.

        As for the fact that the instructions of the IMF are only advisory in nature .. I don’t even know what to say here. Apparently they are so good at making recommendations that the central bank of Russia is working against the country whose name it bears. Judge by specific cases and do not be naive, do not believe in everything that is written by all sorts of RBC, which does not mean that you do not need to read them.))
  22. +3
    December 28 2021
    I read somewhere that they simply stopped buying gold, while banks and companies were allowed to sell abroad. Apparently they gave our command not to accumulate gold, but to sell it to the "needy". What lies behind this is anyone's guess.
    1. -1
      December 30 2021
      Generally speaking, gold is not just a "financial instrument" and a "store of value", but, above all, a strategic resource. The export of strategic resources is a special article that should, like nothing else, be under the control of the state. And the ease with which our state suddenly relinquished control over this resource and allowed its export outside the country speaks volumes.
      1. +1
        January 17 2022
        "Strategic resource" - watch the cartoon "Golden Antelope", and finally understand that you don't need a lot of gold. Need enough. What the Central Bank did.
    2. +1
      January 17 2022
      In general, they wrote about this everywhere, where it was about the economy. The Central Bank has accumulated enough, no more is needed. And prospectors don't need it for nothing either. And allowed to sell. The largest market is in England - everyone buys there, so they were taken there.
  23. sen
    +5
    December 28 2021
    well, like this
    The volume of gold exports from Russia is breaking all records. The central bank unilaterally stopped buying gold in reserves, which caused a massive outflow of the precious metal to London. So far, we have not received a clear answer from Nabiullina's department.

    https://nsk.tsargrad.tv/news/gde-zoloto-neudobnye-voprosy-dlja-jelviry-nabiullinoj-v-prjamom-jefire_467127
    According to the Federal Customs Service, from January to September 2021, 240,5 tons of gold were exported from Russia. At the same time, according to the Ministry of Finance, during the same period, the country produced 256,54 tons. Most of the bullion was exported to London, where they are sold on the Commodity Exchange. The central bank of Russia authorized the export of gold last spring, and President Vladimir Putin signed a law in June this year allowing not to return foreign currency earnings from gold sales to Russia.

    https://kapital-rus.ru/articles/article/iz_rossii_vyvezli_pochti_vse_dobytoe_zoloto_v_london/undefined9536/
    I have been in the GOLD business since 1992 and I know a thing or two. According to my estimates, there are about 20 tons of gold per year in illegal circulation, "says Viktor Okhotin, co-owner of Zavodskaya Metalskaya Kompaniya. Other experts cite even more impressive numbers. Until recently, the heads of the Ministry of Internal Affairs did not hesitate to say that the shadow gold market in Russia reaches 40 tons per year. The "Union of Gold Producers" claimed that "black miners" provide 10-15% of the production.
    Now, when not only Gokhran, but also commercial banks were allowed to buy gold, analysts have become more cautious. But in private conversations, many pay attention to the fact that immediately after the banks entered the market, the volume of gold mining in Russia increased sharply, increasing by 30-40%. The miracle can be easily explained: some banks started laundering illegal gold. Illegally mined metal is accumulated in an artel controlled by financiers, then the bank buys it, and the "left" gold is legalized.

    https://flb.ru/infoprint/41497.html
  24. +1
    December 28 2021
    Buying gas carriers from South Korea and other industries around the world, plus imports of consumer goods, plus gas games - that's gold and tyutu.
  25. +1
    December 28 2021
    Illiterate article. The author does not understand that it is mainly commercial banks that trade in gold in the country. The Central Bank buys gold on the exchange or directly from large gold miners in volumes that it considers necessary for the reserve.
    By the way, the gold reserve of the Central Bank of China, the first economy in the world and the leading gold-mining country does not exceed 2000 tons, less than that of the Russian Federation.
    1. +2
      December 28 2021
      Well, respectively, in simple words - you said that gold in the Russian Federation - does not belong to the country?
      1. -2
        December 28 2021
        Of course not. I will not refer to point 2. Article 9 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation, but what is mined from the bowels belongs to the one who mined.
    2. -3
      December 28 2021
      And what should he understand - his job is to write something that he doesn't understand at all.
      1. +1
        December 29 2021
        Do you have a different interpretation of the words old_pferd? share .. who then owns the gold if it is traded by merchants? and from them the Central Bank buys .. the state? why then does it buy from them? here's how versed and share where it is public ..
  26. 0
    December 28 2021
    Hurray-nonsense from Podymov. Compares soft to warm, getting nonsense at the exit ...
  27. +3
    December 28 2021
    So maybe the Duma members should take up some kind of "golden code", where not only about gold, but about all our other riches to write everything down?
    Thank you, Alexey, for the article, if the Duma members would have read it too! wink IMHO, the only thing they can and should do is to abolish VAT for Russians on all subsoil products, including gold! This will consolidate the article of the Constitution on the subsoil, relieve us of the need to keep savings in foreign currency and will simply greatly facilitate our life. Colleagues, before writing to me denials and similar garbage in response, I ask you to pay attention to the successful experience of the PRC, in which this was done only with respect to gold, which allowed them to get an endless river of money into the treasury, stability of their own currency and trust in managers. Although, our managers and bankers will be especially against this action - they definitely do not need it! smile
    1. 0
      December 28 2021
      Why deny, everything is correct. VAT on gold should be abolished and individuals should be allowed to store gold.
      1. -5
        December 28 2021
        Who's stopping you - buy gold jewelry and keep it at home.
        1. 0
          December 29 2021
          Jewelry is not a means of accumulation - their price includes a premium for performance, but they can be sold at the price of scrap, i.e. a tax similar to VAT.
      2. 0
        December 29 2021
        who's bothering?
        1. 0
          December 30 2021
          item 4. Article 191. Of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation.
  28. +8
    December 28 2021
    Quote: g1v2
    Well this is an ordinary commodity, albeit a liquid one.

    They tell us this, with the filing of the Americans since 1972 ...
    But this is not the case. Gold has never been a common commodity, it is not now and will not be in the future.
    But if they lie to us about it, then we just need to understand: who is it, and why is it?
    1. -3
      December 28 2021
      Gold is primarily a financial instrument for depositing and calculating the exchange rate for goods.
  29. +7
    December 28 2021
    Gold at the Rothschilds. And they also have diamonds, emeralds, rubies, oil, gas and timber revenues. Russia is a subcolony from which not only raw materials are exported, but also money for raw materials.
    But we have a fratricidal war, noodles on our ears, clowns on TV. Nothing new. The same thing happened a hundred years ago: the Civil War, Trotsky, American bankers. Russia is of course a rich country, but not for us.
    1. -4
      December 28 2021
      "But we have a fratricidal war, noodles on our ears, clowns on TV." Yes, you suck in Ukraine.
  30. +6
    December 28 2021
    The Iron Lady of the Central Bank at the age of 22 was already a member of the CPSU!
    I would have dragged Volodin with a trailer with her.
  31. +1
    December 28 2021
    Quote: Vadim237
    Gold is primarily a financial instrument for depositing and calculating the exchange rate for goods.

    Gold is oddly enough - it is always gold, an object of lust, accumulation and calculations, moreover, independent of someone's opinion or belief in it (like a dollar or a pound sterling). Well, at least since the time of the Sumerians and the ancient Egyptians.
    Even the Anunnaki from the planet Nibiru always flew only for gold, and not for grain, coal-oil or dollars, God forbid ...
  32. +3
    December 29 2021
    In the end, the subsequent accusations of the Bolsheviks in the sale or simply theft of almost "all the gold in Russia" began to be taken for granted.
    The Bolsheviks bought factories and technologies for gold, so that Russia from bast shoes became atomic ...
  33. +2
    December 29 2021
    Gold is melted down. Rogozin needs gold contacts, Nabiulina needs gold teeth, and the head of the Ministry of Finance needs a gold comb. Basta.
  34. Two
    +2
    December 29 2021
    So what!? Will they tell us the truth ???
  35. +2
    December 29 2021
    What to argue then.
    It has long been known that if something is done, then someone needs it.

    Someone needs 2 years to export gold from the country, and the President allowed not to return the money now.

    They'll chat and stop.

    And if you are very interested or take to the streets against rising prices, etc., you will immediately become agents of the State Department and something bad will happen ... hardly with cowards, but .....
  36. +2
    December 29 2021
    more recently, they were discussing the sale of valuables from Gokhran in the 20s and 30s by the Soviet government, the discussion was on the verge of a foul; now, an event is happening much worse in terms of consequences - and no one tensed
    1. 0
      January 16 2022
      Now they are selling not from the gold reserve. And from new production. Just the Central Bank does not buy. And the money goes to the manufacturer. To whom they will go regardless of who he sells them to.
  37. AB
    +2
    December 29 2021
    The author let off steam, supported the Duma, so what? They said and wrote a million times that the Central Bank does not obey either the President of the Russian Federation or the Duma of the Russian Federation. And it is not the Central Bank of Russia that depends on the Russian government, but the Russian government depends on the Central Bank. And the money-box is intended, as everyone has seen more than once, not for the people, but for banks and large companies.
  38. +1
    December 29 2021
    The Central Bank has controlled the West since the Yeltsin era. This is well known. The fin system of the west on the territory of Russia must be smoothly strangled))). Right now))
  39. +1
    December 29 2021
    Sanctions in exchange for gold are the destiny of the colonies. Theft at the highest level is rampant throughout the countries of the former Soviet Union. Lip no fool
  40. 0
    December 29 2021
    Gold in exchange for sanctions is the lot of the colonies. In the countries of the former Soviet Union, theft flourishes in the highest places of power. For the calculation, there is currency, but not gold. For this in the same China they put up against the wall .. And no one is the General Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of China for he does not call it a dictator.
  41. lot
    -3
    December 29 2021
    Russia's advantage is not oil and gas, but Vladimir Putin ©
    and not even gold in the bunker.
    1. +1
      December 30 2021
      You overestimate the activity of an individual official too much.
  42. 0
    December 29 2021
    Why don't we keep the gold for ourselves?

    The author asks himself strange questions. First of all, who are "we" in this phrase? If by "we" is meant the people of Russia, then maybe I will open the eyes of the author, but the people of Russia do not actually own this gold and cannot dispose of it. But those to whom it actually belongs, take it out for some of their own purposes. So, before getting indignant, the author should have raised the question of the ownership of gold, and only then write various nonsense about exporting it abroad and seethe with righteous indignation.
  43. 0
    December 29 2021
    Quote: V.
    I'm certainly not a gold expert

    Yeah, not a specialist, but climbs with his opinion, which no one needs
  44. +1
    December 30 2021
    Funny author, funny.
    Currency gains are based on everything
    what we can sell.
    We have neither hemp, nor birch tar, nor machines,
    no weapons as before.
    Therefore, we sell gold, which is normal.
    So the article ... Just a note on the topic of the day.
  45. 0
    December 31 2021
    Quote: Anchorite
    A very interesting detail, if Russia continued to replenish the country's gold reserves at the same rate as in previous years) already this year Russia would have outstripped such countries as France and Italy in size))
    And it would become the third among the countries, after the USA and Germany)
    From a psychological point of view, even for their own people, this would be an important step to build confidence in their own currency and its future)
    Instead, the central bank of Russia sold everything and swept everything up) even exceeding the sales quota)
    More than strange)
    Especially when you consider that the largest buyer of this gold was an openly hostile Britain))

    Well, there is a historical example of such actions - before the revolution, Nicholas II also sent gold abroad. And wherever you think, that's right - to the UK, to a relative .... sad
  46. 0
    January 2 2022
    Well, tie the ruble to gold, not to the petrodollar!
  47. 0
    January 2 2022
    The gold reserves of Russia, or rather, most of it, on the "advice" of the then Minister of Finance, who was under Nicholas II, was sent to England. Ostensibly to save the gold on the Island from the damned Teutons. Then the jewels of the royal family also went there. The British, as usual, did not return anything. Gorbachev then officially pushed this robbery, it was in vain that they appeased him there. For some reason, for a long time already no one remembers about 200 million. data on debt by Alexander III of the United States during the formation of the FRS, as well as about 20 tons of Russian gold that settled in Tokyo in the 20s. The two Kolchak generals, unlike Kolchak himself, decided to live well. But the music did not last long. One found a car on a Tokyo street that ran over him, the second drowned. It happens. About robberies in 1917-21 and in 1991 -2001. and there is nothing to say, most of them remember this happening here. And then 240 tons.
  48. 0
    January 2 2022
    everyone spits and swears, and Vaska, Central Bank and MF, listens and eats !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  49. 0
    January 3 2022
    Gold in the modern world fights, and does not occupy a place, for the title of legal tender and loses strategically, but sometimes it wins out locally. Therefore, one can treat gold as a commodity, as a currency. If you want to increase the pace of economic development, give up the storage of fin. tools. Stocks are needed only in terms of network planning and then in case of temporary delays, and if there are no plans, no economy ... then sit on money or gold and waste away over it.
  50. 0
    January 3 2022
    Gold from the Rothschilds .... "brothers" by blood gave everything RUSSIAN gold once again
  51. 0
    January 14 2022
    Is this state gold? And even private companies own gold here. And then if you calculate the numbers in the article, then 218,79 + 12,55 + 25,2 = 256,74, which is clearly more than 240.
  52. 0
    January 16 2022
    Now gold is at its peak. It costs about $2000 per troy ounce. And just 5 years ago it cost a little more than $1000 per troy ounce. That. $1,7 billion spent today could easily turn into $900 in a couple of years.
    Moreover, it was not the central banks that bought gold from us. And various banks and industry.
    And regarding the request - there is PR, and some economic preferences can be obtained, and kicking a competitor is worth a lot.
  53. +1
    January 30 2022
    That's it, little gold, bye bye.....
  54. 0
    February 11 2022
    Who are you for even the central bank to report to you? Nabiulina does not say anything to the Government and the State Duma, and about the gold reserves this is more than a state secret. So sit down, you poor people, and don’t blather, you’ve gone completely crazy.

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