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Trilateral Contact Group agreed on "complete ceasefire" in Donbass

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At the meeting of the Trilateral Contact Group, a new agreement was reached. Considering that previous agreements were not always fulfilled, to put it mildly, it is difficult to be optimistic about what was achieved the day before.


This is an agreement that implies a "complete ceasefire" in the Donbas. This was announced by the Office of the Ukrainian President, adding that the office still "retains restrained optimism."

It was noted that during the TCG meeting "it was possible to reach an understanding of the need to restore a complete ceasefire." At the same time, the Ukrainian side does not say who exactly did not have such an understanding in the TCG so far ...

Representative of the Ukrainian delegation in the contact group:

Over a long period of time, there was a feeling of a real opportunity to ensure calm on the line of contact. It is important that we saw readiness from the opposite side. For our part, we have been ready for this for a long time.

At the same time, the Ukrainian representative did not say exactly when the Ukrainian side was ready for peace - from the moment the Bayraktar drone was used, purchased from Turkey, or from the moment the American-made Javelin ATGM system was used in Donbas? ..

The representative of Ukraine said that Kiev is ready to study the issues of opening all, without exception, temporary checkpoints on the demarcation line.

The truce, according to which the agreements were reached, was called "Christmas / New Year".

Now, apparently, one should expect how long it will take for the Ukrainian security officials in the area of ​​the contact line to have another desire to violate the agreements reached within the TCG.
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  1. Kaufman
    Kaufman 23 December 2021 06: 30
    +3
    how long .....
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 23 December 2021 07: 49
      +3
      Quote: kaufman
      how long .....

      Over the past day, the militants of the 54th brigade once violated the Complex of additional measures to monitor compliance with the ceasefire in the Donetsk direction, firing from 120-mm mortars n. p. Aleksandrovka on the outskirts of Donetsk, releasing at the same time 20 minutes.
      Source: https://rusvesna.su/news/1640180485

      Here is the answer to your question.
      1. kind
        kind 23 December 2021 08: 16
        +12
        In the new year, the vodka will get drunk and start firing wherever it gets. And they hardly know about the truce.
      2. Vladimir Mashkov
        Vladimir Mashkov 23 December 2021 21: 24
        +3
        Another "complete ceasefire"? What fresh news! It looks like the "velikoukry" got scared this time. Only this is not for long. laughing laughing laughing
    2. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 23 December 2021 08: 13
      +8
      Quote: kaufman
      how long .....

      So "combat" will not pay !!! The Armed Forces of Ukraine "bullets" for a reason ... If "shelling" is not recorded in the combat log, then the premium for "combat" is not paid on that day ... And this is ... how can you? So contracts are contracts, but pennies?
      1. mediumpro
        mediumpro 23 December 2021 09: 13
        -7
        Well, if it's only about money, why won't the Russian Federation buy an army of dill and it's in the bag?
        1. Shiva83483
          Shiva83483 23 December 2021 20: 29
          +2
          Well, if it's only about money, why won't the Russian Federation buy an army of dill and it's in the bag?
          How do you imagine this gambling? This time. Secondly, and the expediency of this event, what kind of "exhaust" you have voiced? And thirdly, who needs this rabble? TO YOU? RF? Aunt Mote? Uncle Pete? I don’t need it for nothing ... and I don’t need it for free ... laughing
          1. mediumpro
            mediumpro 27 December 2021 11: 40
            -1
            Well, don't tell me. If you manage to buy an army of dill, then on this fist you can completely change the whole political picture of Ukraine. If the Russian Federation will own the army of Ukraine, then it does not matter .. whether ukropskie or rossiyskie troops roam in the steppes of the land. Here you, my friend, gave a blunder.
            1. Shiva83483
              Shiva83483 27 December 2021 12: 10
              0
              The key question is, are you ready to buy a "flawed" asset for your money, being in your right mind and sober memory? I personally, NO ... not enough ourselves, and these feeds ... if something has not been canceled for the boomerang of the salo-eaters for the USSR ...
      2. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 23 December 2021 10: 47
        +3
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Quote: kaufman
        how long .....

        So "combat" will not pay !!! The Armed Forces of Ukraine "bullets" for a reason ... If "shelling" is not recorded in the combat log, then the premium for "combat" is not paid on that day ... And this is ... how can you? So contracts are contracts, but pennies?

        There, besides the Armed Forces of Ukraine and others, there are enough frostbitten Natsiks and "volunteers" for the whole head. Moreover, he signed his "free", in the sense that commanders can make independent decisions on the use of fire weapons. The balls will flood and begin to peel wherever they hit.
    3. carpenter
      carpenter 23 December 2021 08: 44
      +2
      Quote: kaufman
      how long

      Before the first booze in the Armed Forces.
    4. SKVichyakow
      SKVichyakow 23 December 2021 10: 06
      0
      Quote: kaufman
      how long .....

      And who is in this tripartite group? I did not understand.
  2. Finches
    Finches 23 December 2021 06: 31
    +12
    A trilateral group, it's like me in a garage with two neighbors for three thinking ... There will always be a toast to world peace! laughing You will also need to envy the Telegram channel and post "important messages" - The Trilateral Contact Group of the Swallow garage cooperative: Zyablitsev, purebred ho.hol Zagorulko and a retired miner, Afanasy Petrovich, after a long [use] discussion, decided ... - the exhaust from such a resolution will be more significant than from the Trilateral Group! laughing
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 23 December 2021 06: 36
      +12
      Quote: Finches
      A trilateral group, it's like me in a garage with two neighbors for three thinking ... There will always be a toast to world peace! laughing

      And if there are "enough" toasts (c), then, despite the toasts to peace, everything will end with a scuffle.
      1. Finches
        Finches 23 December 2021 07: 12
        +12
        In! At least some deed ... And here the swamp is solid! Gryzlov, to revive, at least something creative would come up with! For example, I would come in a T-shirt with such an image to a meeting
        [Center]
        - I would gladly read the squeals of all the Arestovichs! Boring girls! laughing
    2. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose 23 December 2021 07: 05
      +4
      Quote: Finches
      after a lengthy [use] discussion, decided ...

      Now, it is very important for your Trilateral Contact Group that no one should "veto" near the venue of the summit. More attentive to outsiders. bully
      1. Finches
        Finches 23 December 2021 08: 41
        +5
        The right of veto is always used by spouses! laughing
        1. carpenter
          carpenter 23 December 2021 08: 52
          +4
          Quote: Finches
          The right of veto is always used by spouses!

          And so on for a whole week, after the summit in the garage. My papakhen had already called in the morning and said that he had received a "vote of no confidence."
      2. potap6509
        potap6509 23 December 2021 08: 49
        +4
        The wife will come, or all three at once, with arguments in hand, and will impose such a veto, a week-long boycott of the Olympics laughing
    3. carpenter
      carpenter 23 December 2021 08: 49
      +3
      Quote: Finches
      Zyablitsev, purebred ho.hol Zagorulko and a retired miner, Afanasy Petrovich, after a lengthy [use] discussion, decided ... - the exhaust from such a decision will be even more significant than from the Trilateral Group!

      The three of you benefit more and you have more faith than modern H / H residents.
  3. shinobi
    shinobi 23 December 2021 06: 31
    +6
    Shooo!? Again? How long have we agreed, 2-3 hours? belay
    PS: There is no kaklam faith in principle
  4. Zoldat_A
    Zoldat_A 23 December 2021 06: 34
    +2
    It was noted that during the TCG meeting "it was possible to reach an understanding of the need to restore a complete ceasefire." At the same time, the Ukrainian side does not say who exactly did not have such an understanding in the TCG so far ...
    Less than ten years later, the understanding came that all that was needed was to stop shooting. Even the "hot Estonian guys" pull the gearshift lever faster. How many more years do they need to actually stop firing after the decision has been made? Are they not afraid that someone might run out of patience?
    1. Polite Moose
      Polite Moose 23 December 2021 07: 22
      +3
      Quote: Zoldat_A
      Less than ten years later, the understanding came that all that was needed was to stop shooting.

      Yeah. It has come - it has come. Because of this understanding, from the realization, so to speak, and from enlightenment, P-Soviet PMCs in the Donbass equip positions for the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the territory of socially significant objects and in residential buildings and bring in some kind of chemical reagents.
  5. 210ox
    210ox 23 December 2021 06: 35
    +3
    Well, has it become the norm to quote the message of the Kiev warriors and refer to them? In the so-called "OOS" they can say whatever they want. Butter or a song about a goby.
  6. Xlor
    Xlor 23 December 2021 07: 12
    +4
    Sharovarniki should not be allowed into any contact groups. Let them sit in the hallway while smart people decide everything for them ...
  7. 75 Sergey
    75 Sergey 23 December 2021 07: 14
    +1
    What's the point, they will return those "lines of demarcation" that they had previously squeezed out?
  8. Bradley
    Bradley 23 December 2021 07: 27
    -3
    The best way to extinguish a fire is to allow the fuel or oxidizer to burn out. And then what's the point of extinguishing a can of gasoline with a water gun.
  9. Desaad
    Desaad 23 December 2021 07: 40
    +3
    The next meeting will be called something like "a completely completely complete ceasefire, I will be a bastard." How many of these can already be ... carried around to all instances and beg for something? If there is a systematic violation, but who are we deceiving, nothing has stopped there, then what is the point of continuing these convocations and declaring a ceasefire ??
  10. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 23 December 2021 07: 44
    +4
    agreed on a "complete ceasefire" in Donbass
    Ha, how many times we agreed, and the very next day, after a maximum of a few, the Ukrainian side began another shelling. But judging by some “peaceful” desires that “suddenly” appeared on the Ukrainian side, the Americans had a conversation with Zelensky. It can be assumed that the goal is not to aggravate the situation too much before the upcoming negotiations with Russia.
  11. askort154
    askort154 23 December 2021 07: 50
    +5
    The truce, according to which the agreements were reached, was called "Christmas / New Year".

    Definitely, they have conceived a new tactical move to organize a big provocation. Like, we keep "peace", and they
    we were attacked. Believe them, disrespect yourself. They lie like they breathe.
  12. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 23 December 2021 08: 33
    +1
    Again a truce ... smile bast bast start all over again ... knowing the aggressiveness of the ukronatsikov, we can safely say that this truce will not last long.
  13. Roma 1977
    Roma 1977 23 December 2021 09: 01
    +1
    Classics do not age.
  14. kebzuref
    kebzuref 23 December 2021 11: 12
    +1
    How many times ... in 8 years somewhere already more than a hundred times they talked about a complete ceasefire
  15. GAndr
    GAndr 23 December 2021 11: 34
    +1
    Well, in general, it is clear that they were scared. But alas, this is not for long, it has already been written correctly in the comments.
    Now Russia has a real chance to resolve the issue of Ukraine for a long time, and it is clear from everything that the states are generally ready for this. If now ours give back, then perhaps we will not have a greater chance.
    Now I'm not talking about the war or the liberation of Ukraine, with the introduction of troops. I think that at this stage it is in our interests just to pull Ukraine out of the orbit of the west and make it neutral if not allied. And there it will be seen.
  16. singless
    singless 23 December 2021 12: 04
    -1
    it seems like there will be warming. they won't climb through the mud
  17. Yuri Siritsky_2
    Yuri Siritsky_2 23 December 2021 12: 43
    +2
    Khokhel can’t live without bullshit.
  18. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 23 December 2021 23: 15
    0
    Well, well, it was ordered from the United States because they do not understand what trump cards the Russian Federation has in connection with the demands directed by NATO and the United States to move away from the CIS borders.
  19. d1975
    d1975 24 December 2021 08: 33
    0
    Complete nonsense, without the adopted amendments to the constitution 404. This is no more time wasting.
  20. Petrik66
    Petrik66 24 December 2021 10: 36
    0
    It’s cold, Putin didn’t come to the war again, the Yankees secretly let them know that they would turn off the barrel organ until spring, and the Germans didn’t give more money, since they only sit in armchairs there. where to go to the poor clown and his whole "country". The show was ordered to close until better times, the circus leaves. there were frosts and showdowns inside their gopa.
  21. Serval
    Serval 24 December 2021 10: 46
    0
    Quote: GAndr
    pull Ukraine out of the orbit of the west and make, if not allied, then neutral

    Yeah. "Friendly and neutral Ukraine 2.0"
    In my opinion, we (Russia) have already stepped on this rake. Nobody will attack the second time.

    "Carthage must be destroyed." (With)