US intends to hold Russia accountable for import substitution program

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Russia violates WTO rules by introducing import substitution of foreign goods, thereby putting American producers at a disadvantage. Washington will consider retaliation for Russia's actions.

Russia introduced import substitution, giving preference to goods and services of domestic production, rather than other countries, thereby violating the rules of the WTO (World Trade Organization). Moscow is accused of departing from the fundamental principles of the WTO, in particular, from "open and fair competition." According to US Trade Representative Catherine Tai, Russia is putting "American workers and entrepreneurs" at a disadvantage by its actions.



The WTO released an annual report in which it criticized Russia's actions to replace a number of foreign-made goods and services with those produced in Russia. It is emphasized that the Russian authorities give preference to domestic goods, expanding state control over the country's economy, introduce "scientifically unfounded" restrictions on imported goods, and carry out import substitution in the field of high technologies and agricultural products. Such actions do not suit the WTO, so the organization will consider and introduce retaliatory measures, which are not yet known.

We will continue to work with like-minded partners and use WTO tools to hold Russia accountable for its behavior in the multilateral trading system

Ty said.

Note that Russia began an import substitution program in 2014 after the imposition of a number of sanctions against the Russian economy, most of which were imposed by the United States. Moscow retaliated by imposing a number of restrictions on "unfriendly" countries, targeting domestic producers. As the Kremlin recently announced, the main tasks of import substitution have been completed.
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  1. +82
    22 December 2021 08: 12
    Yes, initially all this vagabond with the WTO was not worth a broken penny.
    1. +52
      22 December 2021 08: 21
      Quote: 75Sergey
      Yes, initially all this vagabond with the WTO was not worth a broken penny.

      Yes, initially the WTO entrants had to be leaned against the wall!
      1. +42
        22 December 2021 08: 41
        Yes, and now you can
        1. +2
          22 December 2021 17: 56
          REFERENCE
          Catherine Chi Tai (47 years old; born March 18, 1974, Connecticut, USA) is an American attorney. Her parents, who were both born in mainland China, grew up in Taiwan and later immigrated to the United States.
          Education - Yale University, Harvard University.

          She is Chief Trade Advisor to the House of Representatives Committee on Methods and Tools for the Democratic Party of the United States.
          She was described by the Associated Press as "a pragmatist in dealing with trade policy issues."
          She was nominated by President Joe Biden for the position of the US Trade Representative.
          She has been the 18th U.S. Trade Representative since March 2021, 19.
          Moreover, Catherine Chi Tai is the FIRST ASIAN American and the first COLORED woman to serve in this capacity.

          About her personal life, Wikipedia only says that Tai speaks fluent Chinese.


          1. +9
            22 December 2021 19: 05
            And her feet were in her mouth!
            1. -1
              22 December 2021 21: 45
              You do not care, but if you were hiding money from your wife and children, behind a cordon from enemies, you would not be laughing. They would write an anonymous letter to their wife and children - check this account with the mafia under this number, you would have bitten your legs and turned your elbows over.
              1. +3
                23 December 2021 19: 59
                Don't give a damn to the West, "everything flows across borders, for a song, for a gift ..." Last year, everything was taken out of gold, money is only taken out by way ...
            2. +1
              23 December 2021 13: 38
              Moreover, sweaty!
          2. +5
            22 December 2021 21: 44
            Well, what the most impudent toadstools are these Americans! Sami started this game with sanctions - and now they are accused Russia for what she answered! What to expect from their vassals though?
      2. +9
        22 December 2021 09: 17
        And who do you mean by the word presenters? You can't translate an arrow into Yeltsin.
        1. +22
          22 December 2021 09: 33
          Quote: Gardamir
          And who do you mean by the word presenters? You can't translate an arrow into Yeltsin.

          And it is not necessary, the LADIES also lobbied the liberal team!
          1. +9
            22 December 2021 11: 07
            Quote: neri73-r
            And it is not necessary, the LADIES also lobbied the liberal team!

            Is there a non-liberal team in the government? All of them are liberals from the economy and they are carrying out liberal economic reforms, one should not expect other reforms from them.
          2. amr
            +2
            22 December 2021 11: 51
            those LADIES don't seem to be in our gang?)))
            1. 0
              22 December 2021 14: 49
              Quote: amr
              those LADIES don't seem to be in our gang?)))

              As if in ours, but not in business either. GDP appreciates actions, therefore it is not yet extreme.
          3. +1
            22 December 2021 21: 20
            Well, give them the one who spoke out with this problem ("lobbied") and let them hire a lawyer and get rid of them at their own expense.
          4. +1
            24 December 2021 07: 29
            The little teddy bear was so independent. Oh well
        2. +13
          22 December 2021 09: 45
          Quote: Gardamir
          And who do you mean by the word presenters? You can't translate an arrow into Yeltsin.

          So here, too, a politician who is not the most popular among the people fussed in advance, whose rating is near the baseboard and who is usually hidden before the elections, so that with his presence he does not bring down the result of Edr, whose name is LADY. He managed to drag Russia into this WTO six months before his departure from the presidency.
          1. +6
            22 December 2021 10: 44
            Have you found the switchman? And what is the main thing? Bench press point?
            1. -1
              22 December 2021 11: 18
              Quote: Pereira
              Have you found the switchman? And what is the main thing? Bench press point?

              Apparently you were swelling all the 90s or arrived in non-existence as a friend and forgot how Yeltsin strove for this WTO and how he was tilted in the west for this .. 10 years they strove there.
              Half of the comments, just to blurt out some nonsense like Putin is to blame .. Look at yourself first, what have you done?
              1. +13
                22 December 2021 12: 02
                Quote: krot
                ...... just to blurt out some nonsense like Putin is to blame .. Look at yourself first, what have you done?

                Well ka. Well, I would very much like to hear from you, what should I have done to make the Russian Federation conduct a socially oriented policy, develop its industry, create new jobs, etc.? Only, I earnestly ask you, do not suggest the actions described in the article on extremism! Tell me, how can I or members of the forum affect the foreign or domestic policy of the country? Just don't make imbeciles of us, and don't stutter about corrupt and dishonest elections.
                1. -9
                  22 December 2021 12: 56
                  Quote: aleksejkabanets
                  Well ka. Well, I would very much like to hear from you exactly what I had to do to make the Russian Federation conduct a socially oriented policy

                  Firstly, not Nuka Nuka. And secondly, literate and educated people do it themselves, showing initiative, creativity, will. And whoever wants to be told what to do, those in auxiliary workers, managers, etc. work and do not trust this country management. So no one says anything to anyone. Unless God can talk ..
                  And yet, a good Russian proverb. "The one who does nothing is not mistaken!"
                  And for you personally, I’ll tell you, don’t pass by when you see that the boss is stealing, when you see corruption with evidence, don’t give bribes to the traffic police and we will all be happy!
                  1. +5
                    22 December 2021 13: 57
                    Quote: krot
                    Firstly, not Nuka Nuka. And secondly, literate and educated people do it themselves, showing initiative, creativity, will. And whoever wants to be told what to do, those in auxiliary workers, managers, etc. work and do not trust this country management.

                    That is, you cannot say anything, but you allowed yourself this "wise" statement only in order to justify your thieving idols and shift all responsibility for their 30-year rule onto ordinary people. And look at it too
                    Quote: krot
                    Apparently you were buzzing all the 90s ...

                    Yes
                    Quote: krot
                    Half of the comments, just to blurt out some kind of nonsense, Putin is to blame.

                    all of this exposes you as a person, to put it mildly, with "reduced social responsibility."
                    Quote: krot
                    And for you personally, I’ll tell you, don’t pass by when you see that the boss is stealing, when you see corruption with evidence, don’t give bribes to the traffic police and we will all be happy!

                    I sincerely hope that you do just that. It remains only to wait until the "powers that be" follow your undoubtedly wise advice.
                    Quote: krot
                    Unless God can talk ..

                    Just don't drag God here. Otherwise your brother is accustomed to justifying all meanness in His name.
              2. for
                0
                22 December 2021 17: 18
                Quote: krot
                Apparently you were swelling all the 90s

                And you are apparently still drinking. With whom did you join the WTO? Then Yeltsin should be praised for modern achievements as well?
                1. +1
                  22 December 2021 19: 27
                  joined the WTO under the bear
              3. +1
                22 December 2021 19: 46
                Quote: krot
                For 10 years they were striving there.

                Hence the result.
                Nowhere do they like "asked for" and ride them to the maximum.
                It is optimal not to ask for it, but to become the one who will be begged by others.
            2. -5
              22 December 2021 14: 59
              Quote: Pereira
              Have you found the switchman? And what is the main thing? Bench press point?

              Mishan, how are things going with the fact that to throw out counterarguments? If you (YOU) are able to refute the fact that Russia's accession to the WTO took place six months before Medvedev's presidency resigned, I will give you 100 plus points in 100 absolutely meaningless comments. However, given that you have nothing to cover, I will gladly put a minus. Deserved !!! hi
              1. +2
                22 December 2021 15: 52
                And where was at that time the one whose name cannot be called? Medvedev kept him in the basement and secretly did everything on his own? Refute the fact that everyone in the government was aware and strongly supported, and
                I'll give you 100 pluses in 100 absolutely meaningless comments.
                .
                As for the minuses, the minus from people like you is a reward.
                1. -2
                  22 December 2021 16: 12
                  As I understand it, there is only one goal - Putin? Well, okay, we live in a free country, realize yourself through this ...
                  1. -2
                    22 December 2021 17: 32
                    Through what to be realized? Be blunt, don't wag your brains.
                    1. +1
                      23 December 2021 05: 52
                      Everything is written there. The first proposal is the assumption that the desire to rebel prevails and it is desirable for the president personally, well, it’s a sin not to take the opportunity, I agree. The second sentence says that in this way you can build your world outlook and attitude, especially if this is not associated with special risk. The main thing is an active life position. Well, where is the wagging of the brain? Straightforwardness of meanings and phrases, nothing more)
                      1. 0
                        23 December 2021 11: 14
                        Yeah. You express yourself very intricately. This cannot be changed.
                      2. 0
                        23 December 2021 13: 01
                        I’m not very much the same. Excuse me. Some kind of incomprehensible communication about the forms of expression of thoughts. The topic is interesting and important. Until now, this lever has not been touched. The fact that the honey trap turned out to be said a long time ago. The rights of business in the international arena were supported, as a result, the West got a good whip in the little hands, and we got practically nothing. And it is possible (and yelling) that the WTO does not work for us in a positive way because of the policy of the state. Is it just such a system? This is the type of convictions in hospitals not to be treated, from the same opera. But it is now and here. Who's to blame? What is it? The fact that they joined an international organization, and there is a fraudulent divorce? Then in Roman: "who benefits", and everything will fall into place. The state is not particularly profitable, the population in its main part (95 percent) is the same. Then who is left? Big business. But the point is not to look for the guilty, but to suggest and propose. Is there a way out? Yes, even tomorrow. And it is necessary? No. Sanctions will be so and so. In principle, there will be no platform for tactical legal confrontation. And so there is a chance to beat at least in details. Once again, the WTO is not good for the country, but there are no other options lying around. Of course, it will be great if the modern economy crashes into a crisis and gets rid of the "paper part" and we are generally in the top three with our real economy. But there is no point in dreaming? Therefore, one way or another, they will harm, but on this site there is at least some kind of response lever, at least with some efficiency. Is the essence of my opinion disclosed? Not much fog?
                2. +2
                  22 December 2021 19: 18
                  Quote: Pereira
                  And where was at that time the one whose name cannot be called? Medvedev kept him in the basement and secretly did everything on his own? Refute the fact that everyone in the government was aware and warmly supported,

                  Michael, you are playing with marked cards. You did not answer the question of who from Russia was in Obama's arms when the agreement on Russia's admission to the WTO took place? What does the government have to do with it if the principal decision was made by the president? There is no need to shift the arrows to the Politburo and its personnel. Who was the president?
                  1. 0
                    22 December 2021 21: 59
                    I answer. All our power was in Obama's arms. And now too. Prez changed, but the hug remained. And the constant reminder about the zits-chairman Fuchs makes you think that you are holding this clown for a real politician.
                    And allegories about the Politburo are not needed. Speak directly - the Lake cooperative. It will be more honest.
                    It is not easy to confuse and confuse me with words. You certainly won't be able to. Your skill is not the same.
                    1. +3
                      22 December 2021 22: 01
                      Quote: Pereira
                      It is not easy to confuse and confuse me with words. You certainly won't be able to. Your skill is not the same.

                      I didn't really want to. hi
                      1. -3
                        22 December 2021 22: 02
                        But you tried. It did not grow together. Look for someone else. Perhaps someone will believe that Dimon alone is to blame for all the troubles of the country.
            3. -1
              22 December 2021 19: 26
              Where are you from so wild? really do not know anything about the bear?
          2. +3
            22 December 2021 11: 09
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            He managed to drag Russia into this WTO six months before his departure from the presidency.

            Yes Yes. Putin, of course, "nothing at all", he would not know it and in general was always against it.))))
            1. +2
              22 December 2021 11: 22
              In general, he went to the Olympics.
              1. +3
                22 December 2021 11: 30
                Quote: Pereira
                In general, he went to the Olympics.

                Yes, there it is! Only he is "beyond the threshold", so immediately, without his knowledge, of course, the boyars are doing all sorts of lewdness. No, we have a good tsar, but here are the boyars ...
                1. 0
                  22 December 2021 15: 53
                  Exactly. Walkers from the people cannot get through to him. The bribed doorman won't let you in.
                  1. 0
                    23 December 2021 05: 57
                    And what are these walkers striving for? Are they not deciding on the ground? Boyars do not give? That’s a merry-go-round (. But the boyars have nothing to do with it? Or are they “not letting in,” and then what does it have to do with it? What is all this with normal boyars breaking into the Kremlin?
                2. +1
                  24 December 2021 07: 54
                  Comes into force after being signed by the President. Boyars only create entourage
            2. +1
              22 December 2021 15: 09
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              He managed to drag Russia into this WTO six months before his departure from the presidency.

              Yes Yes. Putin, of course, "nothing at all", he would not know it and in general was always against it.))))

              In fact, somewhere in YouTube, there is a record of where the GDP said that - "For a number of years Russia has been fulfilling all the WTO requirements in order to join this organization, but the requirements do not end and it may make sense to nullify all attempts to join and develop your economy outside the framework of this structure "(not literally, but something like that) After which Obama himself, suddenly offered Medvedev assistance in influencing the Baltic states and Georgia, like he can persuade these countries, so that they do not interfere Russia's accession to the WTO, although here it is clear to the hedgehog that no one had to be persuaded for mattresses, but he just had to nod his dark head, which Obama did, and the LADY took it as an achievement. Now we disentangle it. No wonder Obama tried about the fact that he and Medvedev worked easily and naturally, and difficult with GDP.
              1. for
                +3
                22 December 2021 17: 33
                Quote: Nyrobsky
                Now we disentangle it. No wonder Obama tryndel about the fact that he and Medvedev worked easily and naturally, and difficult with GDP.

                Then why did he again appoint "Misha" to the government?
                Yes, and he himself, during the reign of LADIES, did not grow cabbage.
                1. -2
                  22 December 2021 18: 57
                  Quote: for
                  Then why did he again appoint "Misha" to the government?

                  Is it "Misha" in the government? They put him in the Security Council, no matter what he glimmered, he stays there periodically reminding himself of himself with some kind of statements about anything that would not be completely forgotten. Although the people will not forget tobacco terrorism and pension reform without it.
                  1. for
                    +1
                    22 December 2021 19: 01
                    Quote: Nyrobsky
                    Is it "Misha" in the government? They put him in the Security Council,

                    And before the Security Council, who was he? And how did he get into the Security Council?
                    1. 0
                      22 December 2021 19: 09
                      Quote: for
                      Quote: Nyrobsky
                      Is it "Misha" in the government? They put him in the Security Council,

                      And before the Security Council, who was he?

                      Well, then you specify the period you are interested in, otherwise it follows from your first question that he is still waving oars in the government.
                      Quote: for
                      And how did he get into the Security Council?

                      But how it got there, they simply removed it due to the toxicity of this political "asset" because of the advanced pension reform. Now, wherever you sunk him, this "tail" will follow him.
                2. -4
                  22 December 2021 19: 29
                  in which government is bear? What are you about?!
            3. 0
              22 December 2021 19: 39
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              He managed to drag Russia into this WTO six months before his departure from the presidency.

              Yes Yes. Putin, of course, "nothing at all", he would not know it and in general was always against it.))))

              Yes, everyone was in the know, including you sluggishly looked at this process from the outside, when our state officials fulfilled all the wishes of a "foreigner" waving a WTO signboard in front of their noses and at the same time showing a fig with the other hand. The point is that the direct merit of the LADY is that we all the same got into this WTO. GDP said that it is not possible to comply with the WTO requirements if we are not a member of this organization. It is here
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkMjozhkdjk
              1. 0
                23 December 2021 08: 41
                Quote: Nyrobsky
                ..... including you sluggishly looked at this process from the outside ......

                Dmitry, tell me yourself, what are the ways ordinary citizens have left to influence the adoption of certain decisions? About the elections. only please do not write, for they no longer exist.
          3. +16
            22 December 2021 11: 49
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            .. whose name is LADY. He managed to drag Russia into this WTO six months before his departure from the presidency.


            For your information:


            Federal Law "On Ratification of the Protocol on the Accession of the Russian Federation to the Marrakesh Agreement Establishing the World Trade Organization of April 15, 1994" was adopted by the State Duma on July 10, 2012, by the Federation Council on July 18, and signed by President Vladimir Putin on July 21. Russia becomes a WTO member 30 days after the notification of the ratification by the WTO secretariat.


            those. you need to be objective in this matter, the decision was made in the team and it was signed by the GDP.
            1. +2
              22 December 2021 13: 06
              Whoops, how bold! And who muddied the import substitution program, Lord God? feel
            2. 0
              22 December 2021 19: 04
              Quote: Aleksandr21
              those. you need to be objective in this matter, the decision was made in the team and it was signed by the GDP.
              This is already the legal registration of what has been achieved at the state level. When was this achieved? If objectively, then you are here -
              https://newsland.com/user/4297667957/content/obama-podderzhivaet-stremlenie-rossii-vstupit-v-vto/4182848
        3. +3
          22 December 2021 13: 19
          I remember Gref was very happy.
          1. +1
            24 December 2021 07: 57
            And what obeisances Chubais beat.
            He is still in an interesting position.
        4. +7
          22 December 2021 15: 47
          Why is that? After all, it all began with him. And he "passed on" everything by inheritance, the heir honestly and to the end carries out. Is not it?
          But it will not be entirely correct to blame all the sins on Medvedev, after all, the Ministry of Economic Development was engaged in the issue of joining the WTO, i.e. The government, which means it is headed by the Prime Minister. And who was in charge of the Cabinet of Ministers at the final stage of preparation for Russia's accession to the WTO? That's right - Putin. Just before his return to the Kremlin, he completed everything, took the throne and scepter, and after a couple of months put his signature on the necessary document as President.
          Someone remembered how Gref was happy about all this. But he, too, is from St. Petersburg, and perhaps they grew in the same courtyard with the GDP? And each now plays the role assigned to him in their "demonic" performance !?
      3. -12
        22 December 2021 09: 19
        Yes, initially the WTO entrants had to be leaned against the wall!

        These presenters are now driving the devils with a pitchfork in hell ... wink what
        1. +9
          22 December 2021 10: 45
          They are all in power. They are driving us with a pitchfork.
      4. -20
        22 December 2021 10: 13
        It is bad when emotions prevail over reason. For those who want to understand, and not just shout down, I will explain "on the fingers".
        The WTO is not a political organization, but just a set of rules for trade between countries. It's like international road traffic regulations. The whole world lives by these rules and there is nothing wrong with them. There are no double standards there. It's just that our officials do not know how or do not want to correctly formulate their requirements and raise a wave of indignation.
        And now about the sanctions and retaliatory measures. Imagine you are raising puppies, a Korean comes to you and wants to buy everyone. Do you have the right not to sell puppies to him? Of course you do, any court will acquit you. (These are the sanctions). Now the situation is different: you decided to hand over the glass containers, come to the collection point, but they don’t take your bottles, but they do the same from your neighbor. Fair? Of course not! You have every right to sue them. (these are counter-sanctions). I hope you can understand the difference in the first and second case. Here, the current situation between Russia and the WTO is fully described only in other words.
        That is, to sell or not to sell is your business, but you have no right to give preference to someone when purchasing the same product.
        1. +12
          22 December 2021 10: 25
          Quote: Geosun
          The WTO is not a political organization, but just a set of rules for trade between countries. It's like international road traffic regulations.
          What nonsense.

          Quote: Geosun
          That is, to sell or not to sell is your business, but you have no right to give preference to someone when purchasing the same product.
          A wonderful example of trampling on sovereignty.
        2. +17
          22 December 2021 10: 31
          You have to apply such allegories for a simple reason: the IT sector is not a place for receiving glass containers, there is nothing in common between SAP / R and 1C, it is impossible to put contaminated grain on a par with your own healthy one and import because someone overseas is impossible. Things should be called by their proper names, and not given "understandable" examples. Which are called propaganda.
        3. AUL
          +24
          22 December 2021 10: 32
          Quote: Geosun
          The WTO is not a political organization, but just a set of rules for trade between countries.

          And how does this set of rules fit in with the instrument of sanctions pressure on public policy? By what WTO rules did we not get the Mistral we had already paid for? Why do we not have the right to produce what we need ourselves, but should buy over the hill? And what if the West forbids us to sell this product we need?
          Many interesting questions arise ...
          1. -1
            22 December 2021 14: 08
            You are confusing warm for soft. The WTO is really just a set of rules. And none of the points described by you are regulated by the WTO. In general, the WTO was created to unify taxes and duties when exporting goods, so that producers have equal conditions and that's it.
            1. AUL
              +5
              22 December 2021 15: 21
              Quote: Geosun
              And none of the points described by you are regulated by the WTO.

              Yes? And why, then, the states, taking offense at us,
              Russia violates WTO rules by introducing import substitution of foreign goods, thereby putting American producers at a disadvantage.
              refers specifically to the WTO norms? One gets the impression that you are not such a great connoisseur of these norms! Or you have a problem with logic. laughing
              1. -1
                23 December 2021 09: 15
                Everything from the fact that the media now rest on emotions, not facts. The WTO says that the organization making purchases must do it on the basis of a tender. AND EVERYTHING! Well, where are the phrases about the ban on import substitution? Well, our officials would have rolled out some exotic requirements, such as: the cap must be yellow, and the ink must not freeze at -70 ° c. But they didn’t think about anything. And now, when the country faces a fine, because of their stupidity, which will be paid from our budget, they drove a wave to whitewash themselves.
                I, too, support our country with both hands and am glad to import substitution. And I write, knowing that they will minus, only for the sake of objectivity, and only in those topics that I understand. And the Americans are just cunning and know where to get around the law, and where to refer to it.
            2. +5
              22 December 2021 16: 16
              Answer yourself one question - Whose rulebook is this?
              If you find it difficult to answer it, then tell me whose representative is in charge of this fair for all suckers organization of traders and swindlers?
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        5. SSA
          +24
          22 December 2021 11: 40
          An example is not bad, but it is very stripped down.
          You may not sell the puppies to the Korean, but not only have you not sold the puppies, you are still following the Korean and shouting to everyone.

          - Whoever sells him puppies (kittens, turtles, cockroaches, mosquitoes, worms ...) is my enemy, so I will have nothing to do, I will not sell anything from him and I will not buy anything, I will not lend, etc. etc.
          But that's not all. When a Korean brings an excellent spicy Korean carrot to the market and offers it to customers (Nord Stream), you again go to the center of the market and start shouting: Whoever buys a carrot from a Korean, I will never sell anything to him again, I will not lend it. not ... and further down the list.
          You are asked, but why? And you say - Because he will sell carrots, and with the proceeds he will buy puppies.
        6. +5
          22 December 2021 12: 56
          Quote: Geosun
          The WTO is not a political organization, but just a set of rules for trade between countries.

          Sounds good, but countries have joined this WTO on different terms. Therefore, Russia's accession was so delayed, and China was then accepted, without any discussion at all. wink

          Quote: Geosun
          There are no double standards there.

          Where did you find this idea? The WTO rules are the rules of the game written by the States. When the States began to lose by their own rules, they blocked the election of judges to the WTO Appellate Body. And VO has not dealt with any conflicts for many years. There is not enough quorum. And this is a pure policy of double standards. bully
          1. -4
            22 December 2021 14: 19
            Well, I don't know how else to explain the simple idea that the WTO has nothing to do with all the sanctions, bans, refusals to sell high-tech products. It's just that for the majority, both the WTO and the State Department are the same.
            And we entered the WTO for a long time, because we brought our legislation to the world one. This mainly concerned accounting methods, the size of import duties and the amount of VAT refunds. It was these points that were the main stumbling block.
          2. +3
            22 December 2021 16: 43
            How do you imagine the procedure for joining the WTO? Came, filled out the form, made the established membership advance, and that's it ?!
            Negotiations at the bilateral level, where everyone who imagines himself like a navel will put you obstacles and demand concessions for himself, then it goes with neighbors, then within the framework of various regional or international treaties, as well as within the framework of unions and organizations between the signatories and members of which there may be "friction" and controversy. Further, heavyweight countries will enter the game, or even associations of countries such as the European Union, which for you, as a conditional participant in the approval procedure, will "twist all your arms and legs, or even completely tear them off, because at this stage it is the process of determining each his place in the "world of fair" trade. After signing and receiving the long-awaited status of "member", most countries will have the role of a doll, present at all WTO ceremonies, photographing next to representatives of Europe and the United States, but most importantly, you will get the right to regularly make membership fees without demanding anything in return. Get up and it will be worse for you! Rise to the ground, roll it into asphalt, pour concrete, etc. delights in the form of a fight against violators of your signature, various obligations going against honest democratic principles of fair dividing the world market!
            When "uncompromising" and "uncompliant" are caught, they will receive sanctions!
            How else would you order to manage this entire uncontrollable mass and keep the whole world in order?
            1. 0
              22 December 2021 16: 45
              Quote: alystan
              How do you imagine the procedure for joining the WTO? Came, filled out the form, made the established membership advance, and that's it ?!

              good
              I was too lazy to paint.
    2. +38
      22 December 2021 08: 30
      Which side of the WTO does not like import substitution? They are pushing the principle: we will not give you this product, but you also have no right to produce it yourself!
      1. +11
        22 December 2021 08: 42
        Quote: aleks neym_2
        we will not give this product to you, but you also have no right to produce it

        Everything is according to EU laws. The Hungarians were the first to howl from this. What doesn't the USA like? In the Russian Federation, there is also healthy competition between their farms. Or did the Poles complain that they didn’t take apples from them? )))
      2. +25
        22 December 2021 09: 07
        and the mattresses have forgotten how they introduced protective duties on Russian metal?
        from aluminum to cast iron?
        and where was their WTO?
        1. +19
          22 December 2021 09: 51
          Quote: just EXPL
          and the mattresses have forgotten how they introduced protective duties on Russian metal?
          from aluminum to cast iron?
          and where was their WTO?

          Especially touches their claim like -
          Moscow is accused of deviating from the fundamental principles of the WTO, in particular from "open and fair competition".
          against the background of how "fairly and competitively" they are fighting SP-2, forcing the supply of their LNG to Europe. laughing
          I don’t know anymore who got infected from whom, whether the Ukrainians from the Americans, or the Americans from the Ukrainians, but both of them are selective crap.
          1. +2
            24 December 2021 07: 59
            Against the backdrop of all the sanctions. Weapons cannot be sold to you, not your niche. Gas is not allowed, oil is not allowed, and nothing at all is allowed. You can only buy and buy from us or from those to whom we point our fingers.
            1. +1
              24 December 2021 10: 51
              Quote: 28st region
              Against the backdrop of all the sanctions. Weapons cannot be sold to you, not your niche. Gas is not allowed, oil is not allowed, and nothing at all is allowed. You can only buy and buy from us or from those to whom we point our fingers.

              By and large, mattresses refer to the WTO, which they themselves destroyed, destroying the principle of reciprocity, and therefore let them go through the forest ..
              1. +1
                24 December 2021 11: 11
                As the Chinese, they said that they would enter the WTO only on their own terms, and as the whole WTO world was not puffed up, they did so.
                Why can't our stewards do this?
                1. 0
                  24 December 2021 11: 56
                  Quote: 28st region
                  Why can't our stewards do this?

                  Russia and China have different weight categories in terms of economic development. We have only recently turned on our heads and started to engage in import substitution, otherwise the Dimonov government thought to get off with the supply of energy resources, and buy the rest with the money received from their sale. And China is self-sufficient in almost everything.
                  1. +1
                    24 December 2021 12: 06
                    We have been at the helm for more than 20 years now.
      3. +10
        22 December 2021 09: 11
        Not much wrong. We will not give you this product, because there are sanctions, and you must buy this product, because you are a member of the WTO.
      4. 0
        23 December 2021 12: 19
        Quote: aleks neym_2
        Which side of the WTO does not like import substitution? They are pushing the principle: we will not give you this product, but you also have no right to produce it yourself!


        Not certainly in that way.

        Setting up production is time consuming and expensive.

        We do not know that they will once again stop selling to us, so we are substituting import for everything that is critically important.

        Then the WTO said that if sanctions are in effect for political reasons, then the WTO does not concern, it is not regulated.
    3. +41
      22 December 2021 08: 35
      "We must understand that before the war we imported a lot of valuable equipment from abroad. Many factories were built on American and other equipment, for example, all tractor, automobile, aircraft factories, UZTM, NKZM and others, and now the Americans do not give us equipment We must organize the production of such equipment ourselves. This is a difficult business, but in two years we will learn how to make it and will be completely independent from abroad. In two years, we will thank the Americans for not giving us equipment and for teaching us how to make new equipment. " good - a fragment of Stalin's speech. As you can see, there is nothing new under the moon. The only thing I would like to express is the wish that the current Russian import substitution should be at least a small part of the Stalinist one.
      1. +16
        22 December 2021 09: 27
        I always thought that democracy is the power of the people, but Comrade Roosevelt lucidly explained to me that democracy is the power of the American people.
        I.V. Stalin

        70 years have passed ... nothing has changed ...
        1. -2
          22 December 2021 13: 51
          Well, at least there is no need to buy grain from the USA on credit now
        2. 0
          22 December 2021 18: 29
          70 years later, democracy is no longer the rule of the American people, but the power of the American Democratic Party.
      2. -9
        22 December 2021 13: 48
        In two years, we will thank the Americans for not giving us equipment and for teaching us how to make new equipment.

        The Soviets “learned” how to make new equipment so that when they needed to sell gas, they had to turn to potential buyers with a request to sell pipes (“gas in exchange for pipes”). Gas Station-with-Rockets pipes did not learn to produce!
    4. 0
      22 December 2021 08: 39
      Stupid Tai, you either take off the cross or put on your panties! laughing
    5. +3
      22 December 2021 09: 52
      laughing First, remember who imposed sanctions against Russia. laughing And in general, what other import substitution? I also remember Obama said about Russia's economy torn to shreds. Ukrainian media write so regularly that there is famine in Russia, we already eat hedgehogs laughing What other import substitution, they see a dream laughing
    6. +5
      22 December 2021 10: 18
      It is strange to hear from the United States about Moscow's departure from WTO norms. Someone would talk about open and free competition, but not the United States. The United States will take action against this. What sanctions will you think of again?
    7. +3
      22 December 2021 13: 26
      Washington scleros will make people laugh corny ...

      If they, for some reason, "remembered" the principles of the WTO, then let, in the context of the WTO, remember such a sharaga as COCOM its "continuation" under the guise of the Wassenaar Accords ...

      This is the so-called. To what extent does "export control" comply with the principles of free trade and competition? ..

      It means that the American regime believes that its arbitrary restrictive "control" over the export of goods and technologies is "normal", but Russia's control over imports is, as it were, "down-z-z-z ..."

      And how does the creation of the European Defense Agency correspond to the principles of the WTO, in the context of free trade? ..

      Is there "free and competitive" access to the programs they implement for all WTO member countries and their enterprises? ..
    8. 0
      22 December 2021 15: 02
      Quote: 75Sergey
      Yes, initially all this vagabond with the WTO was not worth a broken penny

      Right. But the LADY pushed her through
  2. +6
    22 December 2021 08: 13
    I do not understand anything!
    They shout that there is no import substitution, that it has failed, then they impose sanctions on it !!!
    Complete absurdity ...
    1. +12
      22 December 2021 08: 24
      They shout that there is no import substitution, that it has failed, then they impose sanctions on it !!!

      You have to find fault with something in order to harm Russia.
      1. +11
        22 December 2021 08: 44
        This is generally a dream of reason. First, they impose sanctions (and what do they correspond to the WTO rules?). Fair competition, transparency? The WTO began to hinder the development of the country. However, it did not contribute to
        1. +20
          22 December 2021 09: 01
          Let the heads of Huawei and ZTE tell you about the WTO and fair competition.
          laugh together.
      2. 0
        22 December 2021 13: 05
        Quote: riwas
        You have to find fault with something in order to harm Russia.

        I think that there is one common goal: to create from Russia the image of an enemy to justify the need for war and nothing else (as they say: nothing personal).
    2. +16
      22 December 2021 08: 35
      Russia is always to blame for everything. Default. Russia did it, it’s badly aggressive, we will introduce sanctions, Russia didn’t do it, it’s bad, it is inactive and thus because of this someone will freeze or something else, we will introduce sanctions. The CIA has already announced, and 60 years have not come, that the USSR could be involved in the assassination of Kennedy. Soon we will be hanged by the Flood, mammoths and the extinction of dinosaurs.
      1. +1
        22 December 2021 12: 59
        ... Soon we will be hanged by the Flood, mammoths and the extinction of dinosaurs.
        And the murder of Abel by Cain ?! Any sane person can see that a Russian trace is clearly read here! am wassat
    3. AUL
      +6
      22 December 2021 10: 37
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Complete absurdity ...

      This is not absurd, but an extreme degree of cynicism and disgust!
    4. 0
      22 December 2021 13: 32
      And the policy of the American regime is, by definition, consistently absurd ...

      They loudly shout about the "inadmissibility" in the 21st century, talk about some "zones of influence", but their Monroe Doctrine (in 2023, it will celebrate 200 years) has not been canceled ...
    5. 0
      23 December 2021 05: 08
      What do you mean? Who shouts that there is no import substitution? Who, what did it fail? And who introduces sanctions for import substitution? You've mixed everything together. The fact that it has failed is shouted by everyone who is not indifferent to the fate of the Motherland!
      In essence, Russia is under external control, and it is commanded by all and sundry! So I have chosen over the past 3 years the so-called recommendations of international organizations, which are unquestioningly implemented by the government.

      For example, the IMF "recommended" the Russian government to raise the retirement age, privatize 33% of state property, and all this was immediately carried out by the government.

      The World Bank also "recommended" the Russian authorities to raise domestic oil prices to world levels, as well as to constantly increase excise taxes on gasoline. In addition, to introduce into the Russian Federation the "carbon taxes" recommended by Chubais in order to create "incentives for efficient consumption." There are also a bunch of recommendations: not to spend taxes collected in the Russian Federation within the country and direct the funds of the National Welfare Fund exclusively abroad. Not to engage in import substitution, to reduce the number of SNIPs in Russia, which allegedly interfere with the competitive construction market, and these recommendations were also immediately implemented. The WTO limits the Russian economy in terms of volumetric parameters, interferes with tax legislation, and not in Russia's favor, and refuses to protect against economic sanctions.

      So try to raise the economy in these conditions, even if you really want to! We can express our dissatisfaction with the ministries as much as we want, but in such conditions it is simply impossible to break free from the grip of insane decisions. These Western "friends" are simply destroying the Russian economy, and the government condones their tricks.

      Over the past 4 years, the number of enterprises has decreased by 1 million 600 thousand. This year alone, more than 600 thousand enterprises were liquidated.
      http://www.velykoross.ru/journals/all/journal_114/article_6795/

      And you are talking complete absurdity ... They are not content with the achieved result, their goal is to destroy Russia! Someone, as you asked, that for nonsense people are being "fed", now about NATO, now about the WTO they write, it seems like they are not united by anything ?! And how it unites - these funds are aimed at destroying Russia, NATO as a military threat, the WTO as a soft stranglehold or leech, which should deprive the country's economy of blood!
      And they are introducing sanctions, more and more, in order to pressurize and strangle something that is still fluttering and trying to somehow rise to its feet!
  3. +7
    22 December 2021 08: 14
    I wonder, but what about the fight against monopolies and fair competition?
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  4. +17
    22 December 2021 08: 14
    Yes, what is it ... The glorious, kind old world is over. Now whoever has a thicker argument is right. And to hell, right, logic and other snot.
    1. 0
      22 December 2021 09: 29
      When was he nice and kind? Wars one after another, then cold, and now everything is very shaky.
  5. +4
    22 December 2021 08: 17
    The dog barks, the caravan goes)))
  6. +13
    22 December 2021 08: 19
    Russia violates WTO rules by introducing import substitution of foreign goods, thereby putting American producers at a disadvantage. Washington will consider retaliation for Russia's actions.
    CLASS !!! So who else can remember the WTO if not the minke whales?!?!?!
    In general, it's cool, or maybe not funny ... for some.
    And again the question ... why were they in a hurry to join the WTO, all sorts of harmful conditions, restrictions and obligations to take upon themselves ... tf-y, it's disgusting to remember.
  7. +6
    22 December 2021 08: 20
    Catherine Ty's position is vulnerable due to US sanctions against Russia ... here the WTO can be sent to hell with its rules dictated from the United States.
  8. +9
    22 December 2021 08: 22
    Yes, it's time to get out of this WTO, except for any harm from it.
    Additional pressure tool.
    And after all, the Chief was initially against, so Medvedos insisted and joined, well, that's enough, we played loyal subjects, it's time and honor to know.
    1. +3
      22 December 2021 08: 45
      if about initially, then "In 2011, the negotiation process on the accession of the Russian Federation to the World Trade Organization (WTO), initiated by in 1993 year"ie, from 1993 to 2011, they stubbornly wanted to join and never said that they were against, and in 2021 no one is against being there, and your Chief too .. And what are the benefits of participation in the WTO? and did not understand ..
      1. +3
        22 December 2021 11: 28
        Quote: Level 2 Advisor
        And what are the benefits of participation in the WTO - the Russian Federation, I personally did not understand ..

        Before joining the WTO, the United States bought steel from us with very high import duties. After joining, they had to reduce them and bring them in line with WTO rules.
        There were a lot of such goods
      2. -2
        22 December 2021 12: 35
        Quote: Level 2 Advisor
        and in 2021 no one minds being there, and Your main too..
        Pierced! Now it is clear who is whose advisor and what level ... bully
        1. -1
          22 December 2021 13: 23
          Do you have a Chief, Vladimir? are you in a gang? Personally, I am the main one .. and I am responsible for myself, I don’t need the main one ... and if you are talking about VVP, then he is not the main one for me, he is a person temporarily holding the post of President of the Russian Federation, and I did not vote for him .. so that...
          1. +2
            22 December 2021 19: 01
            Quote: Level 2 Advisor
            Do you have a Chief, Vladimir?
            For me, the main one, the President of Russia! Many also do not like a patrol policeman and try not to notice, however, until the trouble comes. Then they run at a gallop, shouting help and save ... crying And so is your whole anti-Putin and anti-Russian get-together! fool
            1. -1
              22 December 2021 21: 47
              And what does the policeman have to do with it? I said somewhere that he is not needed? trying to manipulate words? You and I understand everything .. you don’t love the GDP, you don’t love Russia ... You always need a "Chief" who will do everything for you ... A person is not a country and cannot be ... well, not Russia - Putin, but a person Putin .. reconcile .. I prefer to communicate with those who do not think about slogans, I didn’t come to the rally ... all the best to you Vladimir, I hope you found yourself a good "Chief" and are happy to wait for his good deeds at his throne ... But this is not for me it is necessary, as I said, to himself the Main and for me no President of the Russian Federation (neither this nor the other) The main in life "the sun is clear" - will not be ... a man for himself and his family is responsible hi
  9. +4
    22 December 2021 08: 22
    Yes, put on this wto ... Sanctions with the device. And that's all.
  10. +7
    22 December 2021 08: 23
    They are trying to boggle their heads with anything ... We are talking about the approach of NATO, they are talking about the WTO ...
  11. +7
    22 December 2021 08: 24
    Sanctions against Russia can be agreed upon by the WTO rules, and own production
    , contradicts the WTO norms!
    You would have already decided where to put the horse
  12. +3
    22 December 2021 08: 25
    We will continue to work with like-minded partners and use WTO tools to hold Russia accountable for its behavior in the multilateral trading system
    We will sell our products for free for the Russian Federation
  13. +10
    22 December 2021 08: 27
    Probably, we also need to replace nuclear missiles with imported ones. Order there, in the USA or Great Britain, and curtail your production. It’s strange that they didn’t think of it, otherwise, you might be looking at the supply sanctions.
  14. +5
    22 December 2021 08: 28
    Russia violates WTO rules by introducing import substitution of foreign goods, thereby putting American producers at a disadvantage.

    In!
    Another reason for the sanctions was found.
  15. +3
    22 December 2021 08: 32
    They forgot to ask them what to produce, how to produce and how much.
  16. +9
    22 December 2021 08: 33
    Should the Yankees talk about "fair competition"? Themselves openly cheat - if not bought from them, then they impose sanctions. This is open compulsion. So what other fair competition are they brazenly claiming ???? Well, they have become completely insolent.
  17. +6
    22 December 2021 08: 40
    "they introduced import substitution in the high-tech sector", they stopped buying them from Cisco, instead of them we buy huawei from China and re-glue the nameplates on bulat.
  18. +7
    22 December 2021 08: 42
    They no longer know what else to think of. what to find fault with. Just say that we are imposing sanctions against Russia, because it is Russia. because she interferes with us, we do not like her. It does not want to supply resources at attractive (for the West) prices, that is, for free.
  19. +10
    22 December 2021 08: 42
    Americans are not ashamed of anything or anyone. It is rightly said that impudence is the second happiness.
    The country presents a scam to Russia "for fair competition." At least stand still fall!
  20. +2
    22 December 2021 08: 43
    It is not clear to me why several years ago our authorities were so stubbornly seeking the accession of the Russian Federation to the WTO. At least someone can give me an example when membership in the WTO brought benefits to the Russian Federation, meaning the people of the Russian Federation, and not the selfish interests of individual capitalists. I don’t remember that. It is true that the harm from membership is no more than from an annoying fly, because this organization has no real leverage.
    1. -6
      22 December 2021 09: 03
      You don’t understand this, you don’t know numbers. In fact, membership in the WTO greatly facilitates the process (accelerates) the crossing of the border of the member states by goods. All parties, both the buyer and the seller, benefit from this acceleration. Your purchases with Ali will take longer if China and Russia were not parties to this agreement.
      You can hear specific numbers in one of the BB's speeches immediately after Russia's accession to the WTO.
      1. -2
        22 December 2021 09: 44
        The easing (acceleration) of the process of crossing the Russian-Finnish border in 2019 can be seen especially clearly. Now I don’t know, to be honest. But the queue was about three kilometers - no less. I will not say about the Belarusian-Lithuanian one, because there is no time to find out whether the Republic of Belarus is a member of the WTO.
        1. -1
          22 December 2021 11: 35
          This meant the removal of unreasonably high duties on the import of goods into the United States - about acceleration across borders this is to the FCS / FPS of the Russian Federation
  21. +2
    22 December 2021 08: 47
    I wonder if they have complaints about China? China is the most important in this area. They find fault with Russia from all sides - you don't stand that way, you look wrong - only complaints.
  22. AML
    +2
    22 December 2021 08: 48
    Quote: Vladimir_2U
    Quote: 75Sergey
    Yes, initially all this vagabond with the WTO was not worth a broken penny.

    Yes, initially the WTO entrants had to be leaned against the wall!

    The WTO members did just the right thing. For at that time, the Russian Federation undertook to comply with these norms, but was not a member of the WTO itself. So at least they got some buns.
    1. Alf
      0
      22 December 2021 18: 15
      Quote: AML
      So at least they got some buns.

      What kind ?
      1. -4
        22 December 2021 19: 21
        Without duty deliveries of products to other countries - the WTO is already the whole world, if we get out of it there will be consequences for the economy, but the fact that the United States is making an empty statement against us, they have introduced restrictive supplies against us, so in a retaliatory claim, Russia through the WTO can file for the removal of trade restrictions that the United States has introduced.
        1. Alf
          0
          22 December 2021 19: 23
          Quote: Vadim237
          can

          Maybe. Will there be? Or will it issue the 999th Chinese warning?
        2. 0
          23 December 2021 12: 31
          Quote: Vadim237
          Without duty deliveries of products to other countries - the WTO is already the whole world, if we get out of it there will be consequences for the economy, but the fact that the United States is making an empty statement against us, they have introduced restrictive supplies against us, so in a retaliatory claim, Russia through the WTO can file for the removal of trade restrictions that the United States has introduced.


          All the same, the WTO has more advantages.
          Getting out of it is probably wrong.
          But with the beginning of massive mutual sanctions, these rules are already working with great failures.

          Take the WTO statement that political sanctions are not governed by WTO rules.

          Obviously, over time, this organization will die out completely.
          The process has begun.
          Other regional trade zones / agreements will emerge / expand.

          Like the already existing European trade area, customs union.
  23. +10
    22 December 2021 08: 55
    The lawyers have completely lost their scent. They will soon argue that doctors are violating funeral home rights.
  24. +1
    22 December 2021 09: 04
    Were they not the first to violate WTO norms by imposing sanctions? After all, it is said that a country in the WTO is not subject to sanctions.
  25. +6
    22 December 2021 09: 07
    ... They probably do not know about sanctions in violation of the WTO rules.
    1. 0
      23 December 2021 12: 36
      Quote: Vyacheslav01
      ... They probably do not know about sanctions in violation of the WTO rules.


      There is no such.
      The WTO rules do not regulate sanctions for political reasons, it is an economic organization.

      All the sanctions that the United States introduced against Russia are political.
      The answer is the same.
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  27. bar
    +1
    22 December 2021 09: 12
    Moscow is blamed for deviation from the fundamental principles of the WTO

    Well, that's just striped with their endless sanctions about the principles of the WTO and say wassat
  28. +3
    22 December 2021 09: 12
    I wonder if you go to the toilet without the permission of the police officer, will there be sanctions?
  29. -3
    22 December 2021 09: 13
    If Putin hadn't gotten himself into the WTO, then they would have lived better now ...
    1. +3
      22 December 2021 10: 11
      Quote: Million
      , then we would live better now ...

      Is not a fact. They would have lived better if the Union had not gotten themselves into Gorbachev.
  30. 0
    22 December 2021 09: 14
    As the Kremlin recently announced, the main tasks of import substitution have been completed.
    The author from the Kremlin to the studio! laughing Let him explain the bravado to Entu. lol
    1. -2
      22 December 2021 12: 40
      Quote: Herrr
      ... ent bravado ...

      It's time to go to a speech therapist!
      1. 0
        22 December 2021 12: 49
        To Koykogo street? wink
  31. +5
    22 December 2021 09: 14
    Let them send them a demand to sell what they stopped selling ... and a claim for not supplying. Composites for MC21, for example.
    1. +1
      22 December 2021 10: 20
      Better to send them a demand to buy from us what they stopped selling to us. lol For example, UMT carbon fiber produced in the Alabuga SEZ at the Alabuga-Fiber plant. Already 9 brands of 3 varieties are produced, incl. 3 brands of high module. Yes
      https://umatex.com/production/fiber/
  32. Two
    +2
    22 December 2021 09: 23
    From joining the WTO metallurgists and oil refining have welded, the rest are in the ass ...
    1. +2
      22 December 2021 10: 24
      It was done for this ... and the problems with the WTO did not come from us ... the United States itself slowed down this business, when Europe and China, according to the same rules, began to bypass the United States in complex technology and products with a high redistribution ... For all this, the United States and the topic of expensive energy resources and the environment are moving so that entry conditions in Europe and Asia become more expensive than in the United States ... and, then, the topic of the WTO will receive a new continuation.
  33. Kaw
    0
    22 December 2021 09: 32
    I still cannot understand why Russia needed to join the WTO. At one time, this entry cost us very dearly, and at that time we produced almost nothing except oil.
    1. -1
      22 December 2021 10: 27
      There are a lot of links. and the closeness of our leaders of that time. Like a modern carbon tax: some run around and scare that taxes will be taken from the Russian Federation ... the second say that:
      1.the cost of energy resources will rise by exactly this price
      2. will not buy in this market, they will buy in Asia ... instead of the correct ones, which will go to Europe.
  34. +1
    22 December 2021 09: 41
    , Shouldn't the corporation of the Russian Federation be held liable for payments for 2 or more children ?, because this violates the rights of American manufacturers.
  35. 0
    22 December 2021 09: 50
    And what, the decision has not yet been made to get out of this booth ???
  36. 0
    22 December 2021 09: 50
    What is sad is that there is no particular substitution.
    Buy with pride "Made in Russia". And just below in small print is poured from a teapot. But some 50 years ago, the kettle lived in the Stone Age, and we were ahead of the rest.
    1. +3
      22 December 2021 10: 40
      The TV Samsung Made in Slovakiya is received for repair, and on the boards and matrix Made in China. Globalization.
  37. +1
    22 December 2021 10: 36
    I wonder how it turns out. Yesterday, in the topic about the increase in gas prices to $ 2000, some members of the forum said that apart from raw materials for export, we do not produce anything at all. And today it turns out that they want to impose sanctions on us for success in import substitution.
  38. +2
    22 December 2021 10: 57
    Quote: Geosun

    And now about the sanctions and retaliatory measures. Imagine you are raising puppies, a Korean comes to you and wants to buy everyone. Do you have the right not to sell puppies to him? Of course you do, any court will acquit you. (These are the sanctions). Now the situation is different: you decided to hand over the glass containers, come to the collection point, but they don’t take your bottles, but they do the same from your neighbor. Fair? Of course not! You have every right to sue them. (these are counter-sanctions). I hope you can understand the difference in the first and second case. Here, the current situation between Russia and the WTO is fully described only in other words.
    That is, to sell or not to sell is your business, but you have no right to give preference to someone when purchasing the same product.


    If I don’t sell puppies to a Korean, then he HAS the RIGHT to have his own pedigree dog that will bring him his own puppies!

    So, mister bad, there is no need to hang up noodles about sanctions, the WTO and other things about which you have no idea.
  39. +2
    22 December 2021 11: 01
    Russia violates WTO rules by introducing import substitution of foreign goods

    What m razi, they whined !!! am
    And how do the sanctions compare with the WTO norms? angry
    Or, m razi, is it different? angry
  40. +2
    22 December 2021 11: 40
    This is some kind of circus: where is the WTO, when sanctions that absolutely contradict the WTO norms are imposed on Russia? So you need to deal with these sanctions in the WTO proceedings, and impose a fine on the United States.
  41. +10
    22 December 2021 11: 46
    Why do they bother looking for reasons to impose sanctions?
    We are just imposing sanctions because Russia is Russia. And everything, everyone understands everything.
  42. amr
    +1
    22 December 2021 11: 54
    Quote: Proxima
    In two years, we will thank the Americans for not giving us equipment and taught us how to make new equipment "- a fragment of Stalin's speech. As you can see, nothing new under the moon. The only thing I would like to express is the wish that the current Russian import substitution constitutes at least a small share Stalinist.

    Stalin is probably not, maybe this is a problem ??
  43. +1
    22 December 2021 12: 14
    wow, this is arrogance) I just take off my hat))) They themselves stole it and are still serving in court -)
  44. +2
    22 December 2021 13: 06
    Until now I thought that there were no serious results of import substitution. MS-21 with our PD-14 engines still knows when it will go into production, the new superjet with PD-8 does not know when it will be ready. There is silence on the Il-112 and Il-114 after the disaster. Everything is somehow skidding. sad But since the "hegemon" was alarmed, then apparently it is still advancing. I would like to somehow be faster, because quite recently in the country of the USSR they could do without imports at all if necessary. We flew exclusively on our own planes!
    1. 0
      23 December 2021 11: 05
      With the help of whom to frolic? Economists lawyers of the 90s? Who went to study engineering at 90-00?
  45. 0
    22 December 2021 13: 21
    and use WTO tools to hold Russia accountable for its behavior in the multilateral trading system
    Most likely, these tools can hit the United States itself. For the sanctions themselves were a gross violation of WTO rules. There are many WTO members who are not at all ready to obey US pressure. Especially China and Cuba.
  46. -2
    22 December 2021 13: 34
    Import substitutes cannot produce components for drilling rigs, but the Gas Station-with-Rockets lives on the proceeds from hydrocarbons.
    1. -1
      22 December 2021 13: 51
      You farted, don't spoil the air here.
  47. -1
    22 December 2021 13: 50
    Was it worth joining this society at all?
  48. 0
    22 December 2021 14: 22
    In the WTO, under the influence of the sanctions that exist and which will be generally no benefit to our country. The faster we will leave the less claims will be.
  49. +1
    22 December 2021 15: 25
    Quote: krot
    Quote: Pereira
    Have you found the switchman? And what is the main thing? Bench press point?

    Apparently you were swelling all the 90s or arrived in non-existence as a friend and forgot how Yeltsin strove for this WTO and how he was tilted in the west for this .. 10 years they strove there.
    Half of the comments, just to blurt out some kind of nonsense, Putin is to blame .. Look at yourself first, what have you done?

    However, this phrase is a favorite of the trollbots ...
    Coincidence? I don’t think so ... winked
  50. +1
    22 December 2021 15: 29
    Quote: Nyrobsky
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    Quote: Nyrobsky
    He managed to drag Russia into this WTO six months before his departure from the presidency.

    Yes Yes. Putin, of course, "nothing at all", he would not know it and in general was always against it.))))

    In fact, somewhere in YouTube there is a record of where the GDP said that - "For a number of years Russia has been fulfilling all the requirements of the WTO in order to join this organization., but the requirements do not end and it may make sense to nullify all attempts to enter and develop your economy outside the framework of this structure "(not literally, but something like that) After which Obama himself suddenly offered Medvedev assistance in influencing the Baltic States and Georgia, such as he will be able to persuade these countries that they would not interfere with Russia's accession to the WTO, although here it is clear to the hedgehog that no one had to be persuaded for mattresses, but he just had to nod his dark head, which Obama did, and the LADY accepted it as an achievement. Now we shake things up. It is not for nothing that Obama tryndel about the fact that he and Medvedev worked easily and naturally, and difficult with GDP.

    How touching ... But who are these bright people "above" who have really been for a long time in advance comply with the terms of the WTO?
    Or do you just consider the forum participants as simpletons who know nothing and do not remember ?! winked
  51. +1
    22 December 2021 16: 37
    The main thing is the sequence of steps. We do a dirty trick, wait for a reaction. If it doesn’t work out, we use the mantra “what are we for?”
    There is simply no limit to the impudence of the “partners”. We realized that we have lost income and will never get it back, so let’s serve the victim...
    And the history of joining such organizations tells us - assess the risks for the future. There is no truth in the West and there never will be.
  52. +1
    22 December 2021 17: 42
    Russia, of course, launched import substitution, but ACHIEVED NOTHING. Many projects are stalled, and even go to the store - the program does not work.
    1. -2
      22 December 2021 19: 24
      More than 1650 areas of import substitution have been completed - import substitution primarily concerns goods that are critical for the country - and here is your consumer goods in stores.
    2. -1
      23 December 2021 11: 01
      Do you buy civil aircraft, ships, oil equipment, industrial computing systems, etc., etc. in a store?
  53. 0
    22 December 2021 18: 04
    This is a clear sign that economic sanctions against Russia have had the opposite effect.

    It is highly likely that the United States sanctions also contravene World Trade Organization rules.

    (Automatically translated from English. Below is the original commentary in English)

    This is a clear sign that economic sanctions against Russia have backfired.

    It is very likely that the sanctions of the United States also contradict the rules of the World Trade Organization.
  54. 0
    22 December 2021 18: 46
    Don't they find it funny? Let's introduce sanctions again! Let's! Which ones? After all, everything that could have already been introduced! :))
    Rjunimagu! :)
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  56. +1
    22 December 2021 18: 50
    Did you really eat fish soup there, did you eat American fish soup?!
  57. 0
    22 December 2021 18: 52
    If our enemies scold us, then we are doing everything right!
    J.V. Stalin...
  58. 0
    22 December 2021 18: 54
    Here's what they wrote at the end of 2006:
  59. 0
    22 December 2021 20: 59
    Ha, ha, ha, WTO requirements? The Americans, when the terms of the missile agreements became unfavorable for them, easily withdrew unilaterally and did not bother with this problem, but if demands are made to fulfill the WTO conditions, then we can sadly report that the person who signed this document is lost and his whereabouts are unknown and he changed his surname, wife, and place of residence. According to rumors, he went to China, where he makes copies of gold toilets according to drawings stolen directly from Europe.
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    1. 0
      23 December 2021 05: 34
      This principle works only in their favor, and the rest must unconditionally buy everything and the more the better (not for those who buy, of course)!
  61. 0
    22 December 2021 21: 56
    I racked my brains, trying to understand the essence of what was written and incriminated against us.
    Russia was forced to begin developing certain types of industrial production due to the fact that sanctions were imposed on the supply of certain types of industrial goods.
    Everything is clear here.
    Russia has mastered the production of certain types of goods.
    The United States and those countries that supported the sanctions came to their senses and decided to regain lost ground.
    Is this to be understood one way or another?
    Next.
    They are unable to regain their positions due to the fact that Russia gives preference to goods produced by local companies.
    Here again everything is clear.
    It is not clear what the claims may be?
    What, according to the United States, should we do to satisfy our own industrial production with the necessary products?
    Crawl on your stomach, tear out the hair on your head, sprinkle ashes on your little head and repent, repent, repent?
    What kind of world did I live in?
    Some kind of looking glass, with pronounced spots of schizophrenia.
    And all this against the backdrop of categorical arrogance and the unconditional belief that we (the Americans) are always and in everything the only ones right.
  62. -1
    23 December 2021 05: 13
    It’s difficult to even find a medical definition for this type of mental disorder. You are introducing sanctions on trade and financial relations with yourself. And at the same time, Russia should not develop internal resources for replacement and give preference to imports, which you restrict? A complete northern fox!
  63. 0
    23 December 2021 06: 01
    It’s the same as if Hitler, even during military operations against the USSR, would have been “sincerely” indignant at the fact that he was defending himself with all the means available to him!
    Why do they use drugs there in the USA? Or are you out of your mind? Those are stupid morons!
  64. 0
    23 December 2021 08: 12
    Sometimes, in order to understand the essence of a particular phenomenon, you need to study it more deeply. The WTO, created under the “wise” leadership of the United States, was one of the webs that entangled the whole world. However, the wisdom of Solomon says: everything will pass, and this too will pass. Either the WTO will change or we will leave.
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  66. 0
    23 December 2021 10: 55
    who and what is preventing this sharashka from being sent to hell??? and nafik we got in there, who will clearly explain?
  67. 0
    23 December 2021 12: 39
    Don’t sanctions violate WTO norms???
  68. 0
    23 December 2021 21: 07
    “Open and fair competition” (c) ... whose cow was mooing ... damn, they pissed me off so much, my eyes twitched)))
  69. 0
    23 December 2021 21: 24
    - Mykola, let’s hit the Muscovite in the face!
    - What if he gives us wine?
    - Ty, what do we care?!

    PS Let’s change to the USA and import substitution