The Ministry of Defense reported on the preparation by American PMCs of a provocation with chemicals in the Donbass

A provocation with the use of chemicals is being prepared in the Donbass; representatives of private military companies from the United States are participating in its preparation. This was stated by Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu.

The head of the military department spoke at an expanded meeting of the collegium of the Ministry of Defense, announcing the preparation of a provocation with the use of chemical weapons in the east of Ukraine. According to him, it has been reliably established that up to 120 employees of an American private military company (PMC) are located in the Avdeevka and Priazovskoe areas on the territory of the Donetsk region controlled by Kiev.

According to available information, representatives of the American PMC are training Ukrainian special forces in special operations and active hostilities. Tanks with an unknown chemical substance were delivered there to the area of ​​Avdeevka and Krasny Liman for provocation.

Military experts admit provocations with chemicals on the territory of Ukraine or Donbass in order to accuse Russia and start hostilities. As stated "Lente.ru" retired FSB general, military expert Alexander Mikhailov, the United States is a master of provocations, this can be seen from stories the outbreak of wars in which the Americans participated. He admitted that the United States is preparing something similar in Ukraine, with sacrifices, in order to blame everything on Russia. According to him, many wars began precisely with provocations.

However, it is too early to say something specifically about the situation with American PMCs in Ukraine, there is too little information, the general noted. This is similar to the controlled leaks that Washington is trying to secure itself against in case of contingencies. If something goes "wrong", you can always blame the PMCs, which allegedly have nothing to do with the government and are not controlled by it.

Comments

[Siberian54]

Is the Syrian version being prepared? They reformed this UN organization in the likeness of the Cheka - the NKVD - they themselves investigate themselves judge they themselves punish ..

[Prjanik]

Quite possible. To provoke the DPR to return shelling and to spray on the territory under control some thread Novichok with accusations of Russia.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Probably concentrated chemical lard, there will be a sprayer. The smell of this substance has an exciting effect on the APU. After that, the soldiers stop thinking and run into battle.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

... and then the "white helmets" arrived.

[Vend]

Apparently it's time to thin out Western PMCs so much that they will no longer have the desire to participate in conflicts where the interests of Russia.

[fif21]

Quote: Wend

Apparently it's time to thin out Western PMCs

"Language" should be taken, preferably speaking American. And to warn the mattress makers - God forbid they try.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: fif21

Quote: Wend

Apparently it's time to thin out Western PMCs

"Language" should be taken, preferably speaking American. And to warn the mattress makers - God forbid they try.

The Americans and their pack can shout as much as they want about our totalitarianism and the engagement of our courts. But what a sobering effect the trial of H. Powers had on America at one time! You need something the same. Then we will remember about the Skripals and Provalnoye, and about Syria ... Of course, we won't get an apology or something like "we were wrong," but next time, before we freeze some nasty stuff, maybe will think.

[Rex]

"It is written cleanly in paper, but they forgot about the ravines, how to walk on them."
There are not "yesterday's boys", and in another state. Theoretically, you can beat to death with Klava, but in practice a lot of factors get in the way ...

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Wend

Apparently it's time to thin out Western PMCs so much that they will no longer have the desire to participate in conflicts where the interests of Russia.

Alas colleague, this will not help. There are always people who get adrenaline from someone else's death and go to their deaths because of money. In Syria and Libya, a bunch of bearded men with machine guns and waving the Koran do not know its contents. There were mercenaries 1000 years ago, there are now, and there will be in the future. The bottom line is that there will always be such strata of society where even $ 1 a day is an incredibly huge amount, and $ 100 a month, according to their requests, corresponds to the level of an oligarch. It is from them that the bulk of terrorists and other abominations are recruited, ready to kill for this money. Mattresses purposefully drive some countries into the Stone Age, and then for a small amount they recruit "fighters" to overthrow regimes in unwanted countries. Here, of course, the situation is a little different, and most likely those who love adrenaline for money are involved, but:
- firstly, they do not take into account the psychology of the country against which they are going to fight
secondly, they do not take into account the psychology of the country from whose territory they are going to fight.
100%, against 10% - in Ukraine, far from everyone is against Russia, but 100% are all hostages of the Maidan and that evil lord who came to power, and therefore, when resolving the issue by force on the part of Russia, many and many will contribute to the fact that these shouts from mattress PMCs could not get out.

[spectr]

In Syria and Libya, a bunch of bearded men with machine guns and waving the Koran do not know its contents.

I spoke with one retired military man. He was once the commander of a unit where Chechens and Dagestanis were very often floated. And they somehow raised a storm that they would not fulfill some of their duties, because their religion does not allow. And he always had the Bible and the Koran in his office. He called one such screamer and asked him how many suras are in the Koran. He couldn't even answer that.

[1Alexey]

Quote: Siberian54

Is the Syrian version being prepared?

But it already depends on us (Russia) what kind of scenario will turn out: Syrian or South Ossetian!

Personally, I am in favor of the latter, only it is not necessary, as in Georgia, to stop without taking the capital (after all, Putin promised Ukraine the loss of statehood, but we must keep our word).

[Edik]

But someone doubted that the Anglo-Saxons will and will be in Ukraine.
They will easily make such a provocation their experience is enormous.

[Mountain shooter]

Drown in the sewers ... provocateurs. To convey to every Svidomo. And a member of these PMCs. That they will catch everyone and drown everyone ...

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Yeah. The deputy of the Verkhovna Rada who tore the flag from the building of the consulate is still being "caught".

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

Yeah. The deputy of the Verkhovna Rada who tore the flag from the building of the consulate is still being "caught".

Well, you compared! Consulate flag and chemical attack! With the victims ...

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

All this is a pattern. It is high time for this deputy to come to Lubyanka, in a box with a diplomatic mail.

[alex neym_2]

An interesting variant is visible: just that, but we have nothing to do with it ... about this we need to raise a cry to the whole world, and not express "some" considerations, involve the Foreign Ministry ...

[Siberian54]

Impossible 98% of the world's media is owned by them

[prior]

Another confirmation that it's time to end the war in Donbas.
The time has come to force Ukraine to surrender.

[archiroll]

Rates are rising ...

[Ross xnumx]

In the event of a provocation by Ukraine, the Russian Federation is obliged to sever all diplomatic and trade ties with it, without waiting for the consequences.

[aslan balaev]

In case of provocation, most likely there will be no one to break diplomatic relations with.

[SKVichyakow]

Quote: ROSS 42

In the event of a provocation by Ukraine, the Russian Federation is obliged to sever all diplomatic and trade ties with it, without waiting for the consequences.

Ukraine has already gone ahead of the curve, asking to impose sanctions against Russia for an attack on Ukraine, without waiting for the attack itself. Here is the birth.

[1Alexey]

Quote: ROSS 42

In the event of a provocation by Ukraine, the Russian Federation is obliged to sever all diplomatic and trade ties with it.

On the contrary, trade ties need to be improved by including Ukraine in the Russian Federation and appointing President Kadyrov as plenipotentiary envoy there (concurrently).

[anjey]

It is a pity that "Wagner" quietly, watching the Yankees' PMCs infinite on our borders, have not yet reached Cuba with the "Iskander"

[kamarada]

Well what the hell to talk about. To destroy PMCs with the capture of the witness. Tank with an unknown pour in London Brussels Warsaw.

[K-50]

The Ministry of Defense reported on the preparation by American PMCs of a provocation with chemicals in the Donbass

If, God forbid, this happens, at the location of these geeks a couple of "Daggers" in thermobaric performance.
And let the whole world wriggle that it is not tolerant and violation of borders. What else could have been launched in Syria, if not related to our fighters, should not be tolerated in any case at the Russian border!
In HELL this abomination !!!

[rocket757]

Strange, what would it be for?
There is no sense, the frostbitten does not need to prove anything, they are already ready for anything ...
The rest, who have not forgotten how to think, will just shrug their shoulders, from such delirium.
However, a provocation, what would anger the militias ... although, how much more to anger them?

[Pandiurin]

Quote: rocket757

Strange, what would it be for?
There is no sense, the frostbitten does not need to prove anything, they are already ready for anything ...
The rest, who have not forgotten how to think, will just shrug their shoulders, from such delirium.
However, a provocation, what would anger the militias ... although, how much more to anger them?

As you correctly say in the West, the media are under complete control, and they can promote any event and use it in the direction they need. But an event must happen to give energy to the process.

As fuel is injected into the internal combustion engine, a spark is given, the exploded fuel does the necessary work, turns the shaft.

[rocket757]

It may not flare up or get away with hysteria in the media ... they lack such a component as "white helmets". Everyone is tired of Kukuev's nonsense and not many people care about it, especially.
Let us recall how the Kukuevskys have already announced both vigorous strikes and the use of chemicals ... all this has already been forgotten, it’s all over again ... there are a lot of costs, no sense.

[Pandiurin]

Quote: rocket757

It may not flare up or get away with hysteria in the media ... they lack such a component as "white helmets". Everyone is tired of Kukuev's nonsense and not many people care about it, especially.
Let us recall how the Kukuevskys have already announced both vigorous strikes and the use of chemicals ... all this has already been forgotten, it’s all over again ... there are a lot of costs, no sense.

MH17 - still winning back.
And if you remember, then the EU countries before this event / provocation were not willingly involved in anti-Russian games.
All sanctions cases from the EU began after that.

Now the situation is similar, as you rightly noted, the EU is tired of 404 and no longer wants to participate in the escalation of confrontation with Russia, there are plenty of violent, but there is no unity, which is necessary, for example, to expand sanctions.

Information preparation is carried out with inevitable aggression against 404 with photos of troops near the borders of Ukraine.
But this is not enough, the leaders in the EU understand that this is nonsense, of course they will verbally declare solidarity, but in fact they will release everything on the brakes, like there is not enough information, you need to create a commission, there is no need to rush, declare that as soon as it is immediately and decisively.

For consolidation in the EU, there must be aggression against 404, which will not happen or some other provocation.

Then there will be a powerful wave in the information field and then the conditionally "pro-Russian" leader in the EU will be forced to react.

[rocket757]

A provocation, followed by ritual actions from the gay European, because this is their ... doggy son.
Merkel is gone, and her last ones are quite violent ...

[dauria]

Strange, what would it be for?

It is strange why Shoigu was instructed to voice such things ... There is, after all, foreign intelligence, state security, and the Foreign Ministry. Zakharova would be asked, at least to look at her more pleasantly. What does MO have to do with it?

[spirit]

Strange, what would it be for?
There is no sense, the frostbitten does not need to prove anything, they are already ready for anything ...
The rest, who have not forgotten how to think, will just shrug their shoulders, from such delirium.
However, a provocation, what would anger the militias ... although, how much more to anger them?

Personally, I look at these things objectively, and I will not even go into details of who and how will arrange provocations, it does not matter at all. Before the start of WWI, everyone understood about the outbreak of hostilities that the friction that had been going on between states for 30 years by diplomacy could not be resolved! It’s the same thing, if someone decided to go to Vabank, then it doesn’t matter what the reason is, and it’s sad

[rocket757]

Quote: spirit

It's the same here, if someone decided to go vabank, then it doesn't matter what the reason is, and it's sad

... No, no, not the same ...
You never know who there is going to play in the box ... the rest, there, not really in a hurry. The whole question is, on whom the frostbitten mouth opened and decided to bite !!! On an ELEPHANT or someone else no less strong to throw, no, no, there are not so many suicides.

[ohtsistem]

I must blame something, I won’t be surprised at anything. It looks like partners are running out of patience. Well, I really want war.

[Tavi]

seize tanks with an unknown chemical and bring them to the UN

[Aleksandr97]

The training manual on the Syrian "white helmets" is now in Ukraine !!!
If the proactive one does not destroy these 120 subhumans, there will be a provocation followed by a stage of an information-sanctions war.

[Charik]

white helmets are an English handicraft, but here about the amerskoe PMC case, there is a big difference

[Shuttle]

We are waiting for the heartbreaking blockbuster from White Helmets.

[Cat Alexandrovich]

Our Ministry of Foreign Affairs needs to make statements like:
- Russia has nothing to do with the impending chemical attack on the water supply system in Washington (New York, Chicago ...)!
Such-and-such will definitely be seen, discussed and discussed in all enemy media!

[boris epstein]

Avdiivka is on the line of contact, they will try to blame it on the DPR. They will not bother with proof. But from Krasny Liman to Donetsk about 180-200 kilometers, to Popasnaya - about 100 kilometers.

[AC130 Gunship]

Yesterday, some news channels reported that the Russian Federation adopted a law on mass graves during the war. Attention is the question: why should a country that is not at war adopt such strange laws in peacetime?

[Cheerock]

Dadada, be afraid)))

[impostor]

Since recent times, wild geese have preferred to fly around the territory of New Russia as they disappear on it, like in the Bermuda Triangle. Here's what they wrote in 2015:

From May 2, 2014 to February 25, 2015, when the second round of the Minsk agreements came into force, 1200 foreign mercenaries were killed in the Donbas. Poles - 394 people, Americans - 450. These are the most numerous losses. Among those killed there are Arabs, Canadians and even Australians who arrived from the end of the world. Remained in Donetsk land 26 Baltic snipers and 25 CIA officers

[ERsytype]

Who is the source of this information?

[Bolt cutter]

26 Baltic snipers

In the Baltics, a hairdresser will earn more than a mercenary of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

[2k11]

Direct analogy with the provocation at Gleiwitz in August 1939.

[Alexey Stepanov]

Some deja vu

https://lenta.ru/news/2018/11/22/dnr_strong/

[flicker]

A provocation with the use of chemicals is being prepared in the Donbass; representatives of private military companies from the United States are participating in its preparation. This was stated by Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu.

Since Shoigu preemptively stated this, it means that they will not be able to blame everything on the Ukrainians, and they themselves will remain on the sidelines. Like, we have nothing to do with it.
The decision-making centers will answer whether they are in Miami, even at the bottom of the sea or even in Antarctica.

[Vladimir61]

It is possible that the trial action has already taken place. Someone does not know, but someone has forgotten that two weeks ago, almost simultaneously, in the LPNR, a sharp smell of drugs was recorded in the water supplied from the occupied territory of Donbass. The Banderlog kept silent for a week, and then said that somewhere, perhaps there was some kind of uncontrolled leak of chemicals.

[Charik]

can you extinguish them? along with what they cooked there

[ugol2]

This means that a preemptive strike is simply needed in response to the impending provocation.

[White man]

Misunderstood note: "the preparation of the provocation ... has been reliably established" (MO), "little information" (FSB expert) and "looks like controlled leaks ... of Washington" aka

[ALEX_SHTURMAN]

Well, fill up these PMCs, if it is not known who !!! Stop waiting and respond to their actions, take the initiative, do not wait until innocent people die, children, God forbid!

[opuonmed]

Well, why did they not hear us, and these PMCs can be destroyed

[vervolk]

the hours of the countdown went off ... and there were no comments from zhovto-blakitnyh ... scared?

[VTR-295]

It reminds me of something ... Oh, yes: Operation Canned Food!