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Gazprom has once again refused Ukraine's proposal to increase gas pumping

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There will be no growth in gas pumping through Ukraine in January 2022, Russian Gazprom once again ignored the auction and did not book additional capacities for the first month of next year.


As follows from the data of the Hungarian trading platform RBP, "Operator of the Ukrainian gas transportation system" on Monday, December 20, put up for auction its traditional offer for pumping gas through the Ukrainian gas transportation system up to 9,8 million cubic meters. m per day through the station "Sudzha" and up to 5,2 million cubic meters of gas per day through the station "Sokhranovka", but the Russian company traditionally ignored this offer.

Thus, Gazprom is still booking only the capacities it needs under a long-term contract with Ukraine for pumping 40 billion cubic meters of gas per year, i.e. approximately 109,5 million cubic meters per day.

But on the Yamal-Europe gas pipeline running through Poland, Gazprom has booked 21,6% of the proposed capacity. Warsaw offered an additional volume of 89,1 million cubic meters of gas per day, but the Russian company has booked only 19,28 million cubic meters of blue fuel.

It should be noted that Gazprom has been ignoring all Kiev's proposals for booking additional capacities for four months now, continuing to buy out only the volumes necessary to fulfill the contract. In November, Gazprom refused to book additional capacity for pumping gas through Ukraine and Poland for the first three quarters of 2022.

Meanwhile, gas prices in Europe in the morning reached $ 1740 per thousand cubic meters, but towards lunchtime they stabilized at around $ 1700. Experts do not exclude that Europe may face another jump in gas prices if German politicians continue to delay the certification of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline.
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  1. VORON538
    VORON538 20 December 2021 15: 17
    +53
    What kind of gas is additional? They are at war with Russia / are going to fight (underline the necessary). :))) Let them be content with what they have while they have it.
    1. Alexander Ivanov_11
      Alexander Ivanov_11 20 December 2021 15: 26
      +7
      Comrades are walking the right path ...
      1. alex neym_2
        alex neym_2 20 December 2021 19: 58
        +5
        Which expensive? He's DIRTY !!! Al on bezrybe and ...
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 20 December 2021 21: 08
          +3
          Russian Gazprom once again ignored the auction

          Do not understand.
          Ukraine CARRIED OUT AUCTION, who will undertake to pump gas through it?
          1. alex neym_2
            alex neym_2 20 December 2021 21: 24
            +1
            Who, who ... mattress covers for their "hard-earned" money to maintain the pipe in working order! Do you believe in science fiction? Well, I'm talking about the same ...
    2. Finches
      Finches 20 December 2021 15: 26
      +8
      If Hemingway were alive, he would have dedicated his novel For Whom the Bell Tolls to Ukraine! laughing
      1. Silver bullet
        Silver bullet 20 December 2021 15: 42
        +9
        The karma for non-slaves is that Vitrenko, with fierce hatred, went "big" in the elevator of Gazprom, but he got stuck! (Because the video cameras are in the elevator) laughing
      2. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn 20 December 2021 15: 48
        +40
        Quote: Finches
        If Hemingway were alive, he would have dedicated his novel For Whom the Bell Tolls to Ukraine!

        We know, dear friends, our side will never do that, of course, but it would be ridiculous if, after another German statement about the extension of the certification procedure, Alexey Miller appeared on the screen in a helmet and with a wrench and announced that Russia ready to start dismantling Nord Stream 2.

        And he would start gurgling through the pipeline, laughing infernally.

        There, in the first five minutes, spot prices for three thousand would have gone, alarming statements would have flown one after another. Alexey Miller at this time, rhythmically splitting the trumpet, would say:

        - Right now, you have a green future ahead of schedule, European devils, happy nude year and felice navidad ...

        A bouncy start to 2022 would be. laughing
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 20 December 2021 16: 55
          0
          Quote: LiSiCyn
          A bouncy start to 2022 would be.

          Another December, and what will happen on January 1 we will see.
        2. zadorin1974
          zadorin1974 20 December 2021 19: 37
          +5
          It has been snowing for a day and a half !!!!! I have cleared the house and yard five times already. But you Stas just MAKE MY EVENING !!!!!!!!! Good for you))))))))
          1. LiSiCyn
            LiSiCyn 20 December 2021 21: 02
            +4
            Quote: zadorin1974
            Good for you))))))))

            Thank you. hi
            Everything for you, dear Comrades! drinks
        3. al.kisten2015
          al.kisten2015 20 December 2021 23: 25
          +1
          Well done, you burn it right)))
      3. Machito
        Machito 20 December 2021 16: 20
        +7
        Ukraine and Poland can fill the pipe with their own gas.
        Bandera, squeeze closer to the toilet - do not allow gas leaks. Who did not fart - that Muscovite. laughing
      4. Vladimir Mashkov
        Vladimir Mashkov 21 December 2021 21: 43
        0
        Quote: Finches
        If Hemingway were alive, he would have dedicated his novel For Whom the Bell Tolls to Ukraine! laughing

        I don't like your comparison. Robert was a wonderful man, and this and these - ... clearly!
    3. isv000
      isv000 20 December 2021 15: 36
      +1
      Quote: VORON538
      What kind of gas is additional? They are at war with Russia / are going to fight (underline the necessary). :))) Let them be content with what they have while they have it.

      It is the same as demanding from Krupp the resumption of steel supplies in ... 1943 ... fool
      1. VORON538
        VORON538 20 December 2021 15: 42
        +7
        It is not entirely correct, because Germany and the USSR really fought, Ukraine has been yelling about a war with Russia for the 8th year, or about the fact that Russia is about to attack, and Russia is not going to war, at the same time, supply gas and more gas.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 20 December 2021 16: 58
          +2
          Quote: VORON538
          The 8th year either yells about a war with Russia, then about the fact that Russia is about to attack, and Russia is not going to war, at the same time give ukram gas and more.

          They would have sat on the priest, quietly and peacefully, so they would have thrown a tender calf and milk. And they don't give a rabid goat even a bundle of straw.
    4. Anachoret
      Anachoret 20 December 2021 15: 40
      +23
      Just about, neighbor, let me eat, otherwise you have nothing to shit under the door with)
    5. Alex Nevs
      Alex Nevs 20 December 2021 15: 44
      +5
      What for? Waltzman's reverse will save, and his tomos will also warm
    6. den3080
      den3080 20 December 2021 16: 11
      +7
      Auctions !! ??
      Already funny.
      And there such a crowd of people who want to swing usually gathers, apparently.
      Well, like Sotheby's or Jackson'n'Barett
      lol
      Auction humorists
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 20 December 2021 17: 10
        +1
        Quote: den3080
        Auctions !! ??

        Aukcyyon! With one seller, and no buyers!
        1. Andobor
          Andobor 20 December 2021 17: 52
          +3
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Aukcyyon! With one seller, and no buyers!

          The market decided as ordered.
    7. zenion
      zenion 20 December 2021 16: 58
      0
      VORON538. And, how can you drive a samogoydanka without fire? No firewood, no coal, no gas.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 20 December 2021 19: 40
        +1
        There is one kind of pair, you probably know. For Kraina, this is the most.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 20 December 2021 20: 17
        +1
        Quote: zenion
        And, how can you drive a samogoydanka without fire? No firewood, no coal, no gas.

        They will drink "Shmurdyak".
    8. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 20 December 2021 17: 42
      +10
      Pig under the century old oak
      Ate acorns to-full, to-dump;
      After eating, she slept under it;
      Then, having grown up, I got up
      And to dig a snout from Oak roots has become.
      "It hurts the tree,"
      She and Dubu Raven says:
      “If you expose the roots, it can dry out.” -
      "Let it dry," says Pig:
      “It doesn’t bother me at all;
      I do not see much of it in the book;
      Though I do not have a century, I will not regret it at all;
      Only there would be acorns: after all, I get fat from them. "
      "Ungrateful!" Oak said to her here:
      "Whenever you could lift up the snout,
      You would see,
      That these acorns are growing on me. "
  2. prior
    prior 20 December 2021 15: 18
    +16
    It's okay.
    The volumes that we do not pump under contracts in the winter, we will pump in the summer in July-August, maybe ... yes
    Europe is in no hurry with certification, but where is Gazprom in a hurry ?!
    1. Cat Alexandrovich
      Cat Alexandrovich 20 December 2021 15: 38
      +14
      Why don't we pump it? Let's just pump it over. Exactly within the framework of the contract. But not a cubic millimeter bigger. This is what the note is about.
  3. Alexander Ivanov_11
    Alexander Ivanov_11 20 December 2021 15: 19
    -8
    Comrades are walking the right path! Gazprom rules the world, Europe for sure.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 20 December 2021 15: 44
      +3
      First of all, Gazprom took advantage of the situation when gas flows were reoriented to Asia. Expensive. And the world is ruled by China. With its high gas prices
      1. Alexander Ivanov_11
        Alexander Ivanov_11 20 December 2021 16: 20
        -2
        What does China have to do with it? Is it China that sells gas or Russian Gazprom? Yes, if these boobies from Europe had not switched to expensive spot exchange prices and pumped gas into storage in time, then everything they would have now would be top type.
        1. 210ox
          210ox 20 December 2021 16: 51
          +2
          China buys gas. Expensive. And the suppliers, respectively, are drawn there (mostly Amerzians). Hence the spot prices. Why sell cheaper if there are buyers with money too?
  4. From Tomsk
    From Tomsk 20 December 2021 15: 19
    +3
    Gas prices are already 1900+ today, let them jump all over Europe.
    1. Harry.km
      Harry.km 20 December 2021 15: 59
      -2
      Quote: From Tomsk
      Gas prices are already 1900+ today, let them jump all over Europe.

      This price is not for Gazprom. He works under long-term contracts, and everything is much cheaper there. It may well be that someone needs gas, not much, but very urgently. So they bought it from someone on the free market at a price of 1900+.
      1. bk316
        bk316 20 December 2021 16: 21
        +12
        He works on long-term contracts

        Aldeady no. At the insistence of the "partners" laughing most contracts are now based on the quarterly average spot market price formula. Well, some smarter of course did not begin to rewrite contracts, but most were "horrible". But Gazprom said, “Don't do that,” this will open the door for speculative market manipulation. But who began to listen to him ...
    2. Keyser soze
      Keyser soze 20 December 2021 16: 48
      -21
      Gas prices are already 1900+ today, let them jump all over Europe


      Do you seriously think that someone in Europe is suffering? laughing Does this make you feel better? So let me tell you that two days ago, our government froze electricity, central heating and water prices until March 2022. And in April, the cherries will bloom. So the population doesn't give a damn about the prices, from the high bell tower. France, Italy, Spain and Greece released money to the population to compensate for high electricity prices. So, only you will pay the increasing tariffs for housing and communal services. laughing
      1. Rusticolus
        Rusticolus 20 December 2021 16: 59
        +17
        Can you tell me who is paying for this banquet?
        our government froze electricity, central heating and water prices until March 2022.
        It seems to me your government, from the national reserves. Where do these reserves come from? That's right, out of your own pocket. So you will pay for it anyway, just not right now, but first you have already paid for the creation of the reserve, and then you will also pay for its restoration. You were just given an installment plan, you still have to pay.
        1. Keyser soze
          Keyser soze 20 December 2021 17: 18
          -16
          It seems to me your government, from the national reserves.


          Yeah ... private energy distribution companies pay. In the case of Sofia, the power distribution company is Czech property - CHEZ. Lose a hundred million and no one cares about it. But not the point. You better think someone will help you with utility bills? In the EU, probably every state releases a lot of money to help companies, citizens, and so on. And they will show you in the picture a new yacht of some oligarch and this will warm you up ... bully
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 20 December 2021 19: 37
            +8
            You here do not run into our housing and communal services, your business is to pay for our gas on time, otherwise we have New Year's corporate parties here. I want the 13th salary for the year, I'm a state employee.
          2. gsev
            gsev 20 December 2021 23: 24
            +3
            Quote: Keyser Soze
            ... You better think someone will help you with utility bills?

            Having cheaper energy resources, Europe had certain advantages over China. Now the PRC buys Russian gas and this advantage has disappeared from Europe. I will assume that it is more profitable for Russia not to sell energy resources to Europe at all. This will slightly complicate the production of armored steel in Mariupol and ammunition in Bulgaria for Ukraine. Russia can replace the Polish energy market with the North Korean one, receiving from this country, for example, machine tools and greenhouse equipment.
          3. Piramidon
            Piramidon 23 December 2021 23: 58
            0
            Quote: Keyser Soze
            You better think someone will help you with utility bills?

            We do not have such sharp jumps in prices for housing and communal services. The increase occurs once a year by 1-4%. Habitual and stable hi
        2. Brturin
          Brturin 20 December 2021 19: 49
          +2
          Quote: Rusticolus
          You were just given an installment plan, you still have to pay.

          There is also the question of what was frozen for electricity and heating, but not for gas, and the price is growing
          According to official information, from December 1, blue fuel for Bulgarians will cost 102,33 leva ($ 60) per megawatt. For comparison, in November the price of a megawatt of gas did not exceed 93 levs. According to the KEVR, the new tariffs are associated with a sharp rise in the cost of fuel on world markets. https://regnum.ru/news/economy/3438620.html
          Europe on megawatts, to us cubes, but still it turns out more than a field of euro per cubic meter. (if something local comrades will correct ...)
          but they froze it, so how many times there have been elections, and then they just elected and such ...
          Previously, it was assumed that in the new year, electricity prices in Bulgaria will rise by 11%, while heating and water prices will double. https://regnum.ru/news/economy/3453572.html
          such an opinion sounded
          with electricity, which is now at least 5 times more expensive in Bulgaria than in Russia. https://inosmi.ru/politic/20211021/250743468.html
          1. Keyser soze
            Keyser soze 22 December 2021 16: 54
            -1
            There is also the question of what was frozen for electricity and heating, but not for gas, and the price is growing


            And in Bulgaria, heating and gas are not widespread on the farm. Probably at 1% they use gas. So its price does not concern us, from the word at all ... laughing
            Let him grow as he wants. Yes, and our middle class does not start from 17 rubles, but from 000 euros, so we will cope with the prices. laughing
            1. Brturin
              Brturin 22 December 2021 18: 10
              0
              Quote: Keyser Soze
              And in Bulgaria, heating and gas are not common on the farm.

              But coal and firewood are widespread ... and as winter sets in, air pollution somehow grows very sharply ... The EU threatened a fine, filed a lawsuit
              Earlier, the European Commission imposed dozens of penalties against Bulgaria due to Sofia's non-compliance with environmental safety standards. https://regnum.ru/news/economy/3458085.html
              they are good pallets, only they are not cheap, and they somehow winters and for the whole of Bulgaria ... and the EU talks about greening ... such a rich middle class probably can easily cope with the transition to environmentally neutral heating ...
              1. Keyser soze
                Keyser soze 22 December 2021 18: 54
                -1
                sanctions due to Sofia's non-compliance with environmental safety standards.

                This is the truth. I hope that we will remove the thieving measure and put him in jail. For good measures and politicians after the tenth year in power should be hung on a lantern, there is always something for that. And now there is a European prosecutor's office, headed by an abnormal Romanian woman, and I really hope that this woman will hide a lot of Bulgarian politicians in a warm place.

                they are good pallets, only they are not cheap,

                I don't know, I have a central one. But the EU is changing your old wood-burning stove for pellets, free of charge. This is a real help. And from January in the center of Sofia, figs will already drive in an old car. Introduced eco-stickers. Then they introduce 6500 euros a subsidy for the purchase of an electric train. So, little by little, ecology will get better.
      2. fif21
        fif21 20 December 2021 17: 09
        +6
        Quote: Keyser Soze
        Do you seriously think that someone in Europe is suffering?

        Russia needs adequate partners and mutually beneficial cooperation. And it is deeply violet that in Germany they began to fuel natural gas with hydrogen, the prices for raw materials are growing, and the decisions of the Euro Commission lead to an increase in prices. I just thought that creating problems for myself, and then heroically solving them is the lot of only Russians. wassat No, in Europe they will still give us a head start wink
        1. gsev
          gsev 20 December 2021 23: 33
          +1
          Quote: ROSS 42
          Germany began to hydrate natural gas

          A separate infrastructure will have to be built for hydrogen. Hydrogen has a low density and the lower the density of the energy carrier, the more expensive it is to transport an energy carrier of the same capacity. Pure hydrogen is aggressive and corrosive and requires special grades of high-alloy steels for pipelines. Over long distances, it will probably be necessary to convert hydrogen into an ammonia-like substance, and before burning it again to reduce to hydrogen or incinerate an ammonia-like substance. In any case, it will be profitable to deliver hydrogen from Russia to Bulgaria or Germany by pipeline transport from Siberia if prices for energy resources rise by an order of magnitude.
          1. fif21
            fif21 21 December 2021 06: 16
            0
            Quote: gsev
            A separate infrastructure will have to be built for hydrogen.

            This is a promising direction for the future. Germany is already adding its own hydrogen to natural gas, so far 10%. According to calculations, such an additive can be no more than 30% due to the properties of hydrogen described by you. hi
          2. Piramidon
            Piramidon 24 December 2021 00: 02
            0
            Quote: gsev
            apparently it will be necessary to convert hydrogen into an ammonia-like substance, and before burning it again to reduce to hydrogen

            This is where the electricity for all these conversions to collect?
      3. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 20 December 2021 17: 14
        +3
        Why should we in Russia care about the suffering of Europe? It is proposed here to refer to the invitation of Ukraine to increase the volume of transit with coolness. Russia least of all should care about the price of gas in Europe - it has a lot to pump.
        And sensible suggestions for a video with Miller from Stas would fit perfectly into the New Year's light ...
        1. LiSiCyn
          LiSiCyn 20 December 2021 18: 31
          +2
          Quote: ROSS 42
          And sensible suggestions for a video with Miller from Stas would fit perfectly into the New Year's light ...

          Thank you. hi
          Yes. The clip would be cool ... yes
      4. Dmitry Kuznetsov ekb220kuznetsov
        Dmitry Kuznetsov ekb220kuznetsov 20 December 2021 21: 16
        +1
        Concerned (NOT a friend): I inform you. Heated the bathhouse on the 2nd floor. Winter garden. I counted how much GAS it took (while I was burning for 3 hours.) Less than the cost of a pack of cigarettes. Envy further.
      5. Sergey Kulikov_3
        Sergey Kulikov_3 20 December 2021 22: 16
        0
        Eugene, as I understand everything is fine with you, you like everything, everything seems to be fine with us, the situation is mutually beneficial, which I am very happy about!
      6. isv000
        isv000 22 December 2021 16: 14
        0
        Quote: Keyser Soze
        So, only you will pay the increasing tariffs for housing and communal services.

        And we have gas in our apartment for 6,5 rubles. per cube, what about you? More than 30 rubles. per cubic meter - buy a rope yourself?
      7. isv000
        isv000 22 December 2021 16: 17
        0
        Quote: Keyser Soze
        So let me tell you that two days ago, our government froze electricity, central heating and water prices until March 2022.

        The Bulgarian Energy and Water Regulatory Commission (CEWR) has decided to increase the price of natural gas for consumers by 10%. This was reported on December 1 by the "Bulgarian Television".


        Details: https://regnum.ru/news/economy/3438620.html
        Any use of materials is allowed only if there is a hyperlink to REGNUM.
  5. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 20 December 2021 15: 19
    0
    In order to buy the extra capacity of the Ukrainian gas pipeline system, Gazprom needs to sell gas, and before that it is necessary to produce. Norway. Gazprom also likes this price, for a short period.
    1. isv000
      isv000 20 December 2021 15: 43
      +9
      Quote: tralflot1832
      We are looking at the price of gas from Norway.

      At the Norgs, the gas turns to the finish line. The Chintsy are ready, in principle, to consume all our volumes. But there is also Asia and, oddly enough, the States are buying our LNG. So, so far, everything is OK with sales, but the domestic market is gradually expanding ... hi
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 20 December 2021 16: 24
        +2
        Good afternoon. hi I agree in everything, with gas it is good, without gas it is not very good.
    2. businessv
      businessv 20 December 2021 16: 15
      -1
      Quote: tralflot1832
      If you buy gas from Gazprom at its price now, it will cost a lot for non-partners.

      Today it is profitable to conclude contracts for long-term supplies of $ 250-280 per thousand cubic meters!
  6. AML
    AML 20 December 2021 15: 27
    +7
    Quote: prior
    It's okay.
    The volumes that we do not pump under contracts in the winter, we will pump in the summer in July-August, maybe ... yes
    Europe is in no hurry with certification, but where is Gazprom in a hurry ?!

    Why are they in a hurry? It only seems that the high gas prices are unprofitable for the EC. But if there is an understanding that the EU is not the EU, then another idea may arise - the founding countries simply absorb their less wealthy neighbors. No money for gas? It doesn't matter, we will give you a secured loan. They will print as much money as they need, since they have their own central bank.
  7. askort154
    askort154 20 December 2021 15: 31
    +11
    Gazprom has once again refused Ukraine's proposal to increase gas pumping

    And this is the right decision! Russophobia cannot be cured by words.
    1. Alexander Ivanov_11
      Alexander Ivanov_11 20 December 2021 15: 51
      +1
      But in the news they said that the USA is generally against long-term contracts and like let Europe always buy gas on the spot market (on the stock exchange) and if in the future there are the same prices as now, it would be no laughing matter in Europe, but Gazprom and Russia will get rich.
      1. Lykases1
        Lykases1 20 December 2021 17: 08
        +1
        Gazprom yes. Well, and a scanty, but very capable and irreplaceable part of Russia. And in our country only prices will rise.
        1. your1970
          your1970 20 December 2021 19: 09
          +1
          Quote: Lykases1
          Gazprom yes. Well, and a scanty, but very capable and irreplaceable part of Russia. And in our country only prices will rise.

          As well as military teachers and doctors - Gazprom will pay more taxes
          1. Lykases1
            Lykases1 20 December 2021 19: 48
            -4
            Do you believe yourself?
            1. your1970
              your1970 20 December 2021 22: 37
              0
              Quote: Lykases1
              Do you believe yourself?

              Easy enough to check ....
              1. Lykases1
                Lykases1 21 December 2021 06: 21
                -3
                Easy, of course. The right doctors, the director of the school with an accountant, will receive an increase, but for the military, I will not say few acquaintances. Even in the news on central channels, such increments slip through, and the Internet is full of them.
                1. your1970
                  your1970 21 December 2021 07: 47
                  +1
                  All polls are teachers and all polls are doctors - except for private ones, receive salaries from the budget ... The budget for 62% consists of money from the FCS - and there the main array is export duties on hydrocarbons. The more money in the budget, the more likely it is that doctors, teachers the military will not go to bed hungry ..
                  1. Lykases1
                    Lykases1 21 December 2021 08: 24
                    -1
                    Probability is the key word. And the likelihood of an increase in funding for failed projects of Rusnano, an increase in reserve funds, an increase in the salaries of top managers will also increase, and the rest will receive miserable handouts of 300-500 rubles. And everything around tells me that my probability is higher
                    1. your1970
                      your1970 21 December 2021 10: 36
                      0
                      Quote: Lykases1
                      will receive pitiful handouts of 300-500 rubles.

                      You may not understand, but I wrote about salaries, not about increments
                      1. Lykases1
                        Lykases1 21 December 2021 13: 02
                        +2
                        Maybe I didn't understand. The budget is formed at certain prices. Even if they find out, the salaries of state employees will not radically change
                      2. your1970
                        your1970 21 December 2021 13: 48
                        0
                        Quote: Lykases1
                        Maybe I didn't understand. The budget is formed at certain prices. Even if they find out, the salaries of state employees will not radically change

                        From the excess budget revenues, it will be possible to increase maternity capital or give 10 thousand for children. If this money is not available, then there will be nothing to give.
                        Daily pension payments - 23 billion daily and only for payment
                      3. Lykases1
                        Lykases1 21 December 2021 15: 56
                        +2
                        I understand everything. Now we have moved on to the possibilities. We seem to live in different countries. Your maternity capital will definitely be increased and everything will be given 10000 rubles, so that it is more convenient to buy carrots at 100 rubles per kg. I will silently envy. Good luck.
                      4. your1970
                        your1970 21 December 2021 17: 22
                        0
                        Quote: Lykases1
                        Now we have moved on to the possibilities.

                        I don’t know how in your country - we have an increase in maternity capital - this is a fairly serious amount. Our motherboard is about 1/3 of the cost of a residential building

                        But this is apparently due to the fact that you have a carrot for 100 rubles ...
                        We had it for 27 in the fall in October when I was stocking it, now it is 30-32.

                        You just apparently live in the Central Administrative District of Moscow - where
                        "I'm changing my apartment for the country. Honduras and Nicaragua shouldn't be offered."
            2. Piramidon
              Piramidon 24 December 2021 00: 07
              0
              Quote: Lykases1
              Do you believe yourself?

              Doesn't it fit with your training manual?
      2. fif21
        fif21 20 December 2021 17: 15
        +5
        Quote: Alexander Ivanov_11
        here in Europe it will be no laughing matter, but Gazprom and Russia will get rich.

        I wonder who will be able to buy European goods if the initial prices for raw materials have increased so many times? It looks like China will get rich as well. hi
  8. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 20 December 2021 15: 32
    +1
    I can’t find how many degrees it was on December 23, 24 in Hamburg. That would be frost now, the entire Bundestag with Laschet and the company would run to open joint venture No. 1995, while Gazprom's guards began to protect the valves with their breasts.
    1. expert
      expert 20 December 2021 19: 44
      0
      Hamburg is always warmer than Frankfurt am Main, and even more so than Munich.
      But in 1996 in Frankfurt it was snowing down to -22. Mine is completely frozen.
      But, indeed, everything is absolutely calm in Germany on the gas issue.
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 20 December 2021 19: 56
        0
        hi Yes, I looked at Christmas in Hamburg, forecast + 4. And what nonsense in Germany, the supply of electricity tomorrow 1 kW / h 000 euros. Yes, I remember that wild cold, the movement of a taxi ship from shop to shop to fast tangerines at the Christmas market with mulled wine taxi steamer. Frozen like Ayavrik. I even remembered the German language.
        1. expert
          expert 20 December 2021 20: 04
          +1
          Here's the latest data:
          Average energy consumption per person in Germany.
          According to current statistics, a person consumes an average of 1300 kilowatt-hours (kWh) of electricity per year. With an average electricity price of € 0,30 per kWh, which is € 390.
          My wife and I together pay about 70 euros a month.
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 20 December 2021 20: 18
            0
            Thank you, I see. Are you children or parents of repatriates? Good luck, Merry Christmas! drinks love
            1. expert
              expert 20 December 2021 20: 36
              -1
              Thank you!
              We are the children of the Soviet Union, who managed to move to Germany when EBN abandoned us Russians in great Moldova.
              Is "trawlflot" north or far east?
              1. tralflot1832
                tralflot1832 20 December 2021 20: 51
                0
                He worked in Murmansk, Hamburg was a favorite port of call from 1991 to 1997. Until the replacement crew in Bremenhaffen painted hundreds of BMWs and Range Rovers on the dock in small specks. That was the reason the Germans managed to put them on hold in 50 meters before being shipped and taken under the board. loading and transferring to German dealers. The scandal was notable. We won the trial, but we never went further into Geomania. Now we are retired in Sochi.
  9. SKVichyakow
    SKVichyakow 20 December 2021 15: 32
    +2
    They get gas from us at a balanced price, they don't value Russia. They have gas at the market price, they don't value Russia even more. Just like in the movie "It Can't Be": "they themselves do not understand what they want." It's time to turn the gas flow to Asia.
    1. businessv
      businessv 20 December 2021 16: 12
      0
      Quote: SKVichyakow
      It's time to turn the gas flow to Asia.
      They have been trying to do this for a long time, the Power of Siberia 2 is dragging on with might and main.
  10. mag nit
    mag nit 20 December 2021 15: 34
    +2
    Citizens, business is a pipe ...
  11. Pavel episkop
    Pavel episkop 20 December 2021 15: 36
    +3
    They did not take them to Europe, but the prices are "European". So soon the yanyka will be called
  12. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 20 December 2021 15: 42
    +1
    Gazprom pumps just as much gas as these same Europeans bought from it.
    They want more gas - no problem, let them buy it. Otherwise, where to download it if nobody needs it there?
    1. ansons
      ansons 20 December 2021 21: 31
      0
      This is not how it works, at the moment. Gazprom (through its subsidiaries) decides how much gas to supply to the European spot market, roughly speaking, how much gas is available, so much is bought, and it does not supply any more so as not to drop prices (which, by the way, is very much asked of it), therefore additional capacity there is no need.
  13. Ros 56
    Ros 56 20 December 2021 15: 43
    +2
    Not a gram more than they owe under the contracts. Enough to feed the little guys, let them go to the porch for alms. negative
  14. Sandor Clegane
    Sandor Clegane 20 December 2021 15: 45
    -1
    if SP-2 is not launched before the summer of 21, then by that time the entire project will definitely pay off, I am sure that by the 20th of January 21, the price on the spot market will be $ 2400 per 1000 cubic meters, what do they think of themselves there ?? that the lords of the North will save them? belay wassat
    1. askort154
      askort154 20 December 2021 16: 01
      +2
      Sandor Clegane
      if SP-2 is not launched before the summer of 21, then by that time the entire project will definitely pay off

      It has already paid off. Gazprom invested 5 billion and, thanks to high prices, returned the balance ahead of schedule. Now the net profit has gone.
      Therefore, Russia looks calmly at all their "poddergushki". yes hi
      1. Sandor Clegane
        Sandor Clegane 20 December 2021 16: 04
        -1
        Quote: askort154
        It has already paid off.

        your information is not accurate, it should pay off at current prices by the summer, but if you're lucky (1900 and above), then by spring)) well, or by February, it really depends on the price
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      3. aleks.29ru
        aleks.29ru 20 December 2021 20: 02
        0
        The 21st year will end in 10 days.
  15. businessv
    businessv 20 December 2021 16: 09
    0
    It should be noted that Gazprom has been ignoring all Kiev's proposals for booking additional capacities for four months now, continuing to buy out only the volumes necessary to fulfill the contract.
    Well done! Keep it up! drinks
  16. rocket757
    rocket757 20 December 2021 16: 10
    +1
    Gazprom has once again refused Ukraine's proposal to increase gas pumping
    ... The game is played for big babosiks ... there will be no mercy for anyone.
    1. bk316
      bk316 20 December 2021 16: 24
      +5
      no one will be spared.

      Such a life. Finally it was our turn to say "this is business - nothing personal."
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 20 December 2021 17: 13
        +2
        Well, yes, such a game, your interests are closer to the body ...
        The question is, are the foreigners ready to accept such a situation? It’s not worth it ... they will press as best they can and with all their might.
        We must stand our ground ...
  17. Aleksey Aleksandrovich
    Aleksey Aleksandrovich 20 December 2021 16: 33
    +2
    No, well, how could it be otherwise with them ?!
    1. Alex Nevs
      Alex Nevs 20 December 2021 16: 40
      +3
      What about us? belay Well, or ".. we are legal for them and they are illegal for us ..."
  18. rusich
    rusich 20 December 2021 17: 01
    +1
    Again pan-head bummer. Couldn't cut a penny
  19. d1975
    d1975 20 December 2021 17: 07
    +1
    The Germans are blocking gas for the Germans! Something for a long time the Germans are engaged in sado-maso. In one word, perverts. wassat
    1. ansons
      ansons 20 December 2021 21: 37
      +1
      The Germans buy dollars under long-term contracts for as much as 300, and the problems of others they are sure of little concern.
  20. Baroque
    Baroque 20 December 2021 17: 41
    +1
    That's the same zrada! And alternative suppliers do not want to help either Ukraine or Europe.
  21. singless
    singless 20 December 2021 18: 48
    0
    when we eat pickles, I have a lot of gas. I will give it away.
  22. Siberian-1
    Siberian-1 20 December 2021 19: 07
    +1
    Quote: zenion
    VORON538. And, how can you drive a samogoydanka without fire? No firewood, no coal, no gas.

    And Cho to drive her? I put the booze in the hall, at minus 10 the water will freeze, and the spiritsyaga will remain liquid. Drain and drink. Can be in the bedroom if it's colder. Business will be faster.
  23. Nord11
    Nord11 20 December 2021 23: 16
    +2
    It is as immoral to feed Bandera-semi-fascist Ukraine as the Third Reich in its time.
  24. Nord11
    Nord11 20 December 2021 23: 24
    +2
    Europe, have a conscience! You imposed sanctions on the United States, including on the supply of equipment for the oil and gas industry to Russia. Here we are digging wells with shovels, pumping it to you with hand pumps. Soon, only majors will walk around with gas lighters themselves ..
  25. Long dead.
    Long dead. 21 December 2021 02: 41
    0
    It’s a pity that the adequate people who remain there are trying to get rid of someone. And the most important thing is that the government will not freeze them in any case, and it turns out that the perpetrator will not be punished for his actions ... tomorrow they will come up with an alternative to gas and oil and then we will crawl on our knees as prices for it inside the country will skyrocket (after all, when Gazprom does not share with the people in chocolate, and when things are bad, it runs to Putin for budget (our) money. .. There are two sayings - How many rope does not twist and the end will be --- and - If something works out for a long time (this is about the invention of alternative energy) ..... It's a matter of time. Then it won't be funny.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 21 December 2021 13: 07
      -1
      Quote: Long Dead.
      It is a pity for someone who is being disentangled by the remaining adequate people.

      Judging by the last elections, small adequate moderate Ukrainians © only 11,67%.
      Quote: Long Dead.
      No matter how it turns out that today they are almost on their knees asking for gas and tomorrow they will come up with an alternative to gas and oil and then we will crawl on our knees as prices for it inside the country will skyrocket

      Once again: gas and oil go to Europe not only for heating and transport. First of all, it is a raw material for petrochemistry. No wonder the main pusher of the first "joint venture" from the German side was the BASF company.
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 24 December 2021 00: 14
        0
        Quote: Alexey RA
        Judging by the last elections, small adequate moderate Ukrainians © only 11,67%

        Do you still believe in these statistical fairy tales and fair elections?
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 24 December 2021 10: 01
          0
          Quote: Piramidon
          Do you still believe in these statistical fairy tales and fair elections?

          Do you see a massive movement against the corrupt pro-Western government? wink
          Everyone is happy with everything. Nobody gives a damn about anything. Now, if someone comes and does everything - then yes, then UIAU will pat him ... and again they will return to their old way of life, scolding the new government, that the milk in the rivers is not that fat, and the jelly along the banks is not so dense, and in general, kava in Vienna used to be sweeter.
        2. Piramidon
          Piramidon 24 December 2021 16: 12
          0
          Quote: Alexey RA
          Do you see a massive movement against the corrupt pro-Western government?
          Everyone is happy with everything. Nobody gives a damn about everything

          And when did the people themselves start something? Leaders are required and money. It is necessary that the State Department again finance and send Nuland with cookies. And even then all the same "khataskrayniks" will be the majority.
  26. svoit
    svoit 21 December 2021 22: 49
    0
    .Gazprom "once again ignored the auction
    But they can make a knight's move, generally exempt from payment of transit in excess of 40 billion