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The world awaits a reaction from the US and NATO on proposals for global security

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In the West, they are discussing the Russian proposal on strategic stability and the formation of security contours in the modern world. Many Western experts took the list of Russian proposals as an ultimatum from Moscow. In the end, let them perceive it as they want, the main thing is to have an effect - the understanding that Russia will not resignedly look at how more and more new threats (including military ones) appear closer and closer to the borders.


What does Russia want?

Russia wants to be reckoned with. In order for the US and NATO to finally understand that Russia is not a country about whose interests you can wipe your feet. The 90s, when they openly wiped their feet, are over. Gone are the 2000s, when NATO actually dug in at the borders of the Russian Federation, bringing up new contingents and weapons to these borders.

Russia has doused the United States and NATO with a bucket of cold water with its position. Perhaps another bucket of cold water after 2008 and 2014, showing that the interests of Russia, whether they like it or not in Washington, Brussels and London, will have to be reckoned with.

Now the main intrigue is how the North Atlantic Alliance will react. The world is waiting for a reaction. To declare that it will no longer expand to the east, like this, openly, it cannot afford. Otherwise, you can lose face and hegemon status within your borders. Therefore, it will play up. Although now there are statements that Ukraine "should not expect to be admitted to NATO in the near future - act on your own, on your own, and NATO will support morally as allies outside the bloc."

With reflections on the proposals of the Russian Federation to the United States and NATO - Mikhail Leontyev in the program "However" on "Channel One":

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  1. Nikolay1987
    Nikolay1987 19 December 2021 20: 41
    +2
    However ... don't care
    1. alex neym_2
      alex neym_2 19 December 2021 22: 10
      -2
      Mattress toppers only understand power!
      1. Civil
        Civil 20 December 2021 09: 35
        0
        Well, it is difficult to call this an ultimatum, since no deadline has been set and the consequences have not been announced, and the text is quite adequate and quite feasible without losing face on all sides. But there will be no answer, the forces and levels of development are not too equal.
  2. rocket757
    rocket757 19 December 2021 20: 43
    +2
    The world awaits a reaction from the US and NATO on proposals for global security
    ... And what the world can surprise ???
    By and large, the majority of the significant ones have already decided for whom they are, and the small ones will be driven en masse, those who play here and there.
    Yes, also sanity in international politics has not become at all ... in general, what can be expected there, then the status quo would be preserved, and that case would have been used.
  3. paul3390
    paul3390 19 December 2021 20: 44
    +10
    The reaction is obvious - they will crush until either they crush them completely, or we do not throw out their tusks .. Simply because, by and large, the Russian Federation has no trump cards. No matter how our government puffs out its cheeks. We are critically dependent on imports in almost all areas, our type of elite is completely in the hands of the West, where it keeps the loot and her families live, we have monstrous social inequality, and as a result, the regime lacks the popular support necessary for a serious confrontation with Westerners ... And so on and so on .. In fact - a complete ambush in all directions, and the further - the worse. Improvements are not expected from the word at all. So why, in such situations, should the Russian Federation be reckoned with? This USSR was practically self-sufficient and confident in its people. He - could afford to seriously defend his interests. But Putin's RF is not. And this - you have to realize, no matter how sad it is ..
    1. Alexga
      Alexga 19 December 2021 22: 47
      +7
      Even there is nothing to object! But the question arises why Lukashenka is called multi-vector. He, in any case, works in the interests of his state.
      1. www3
        www3 21 December 2021 00: 43
        0
        do not confuse state wool with personal)
    2. nickname7
      nickname7 15 February 2022 07: 55
      0
      While Russia has a right to neutral and even friendly neighbor countries, the US believes that Russia's border countries should be toxic cordon sanitaires. This was said in the NBC news, and it is taken for granted that Ukraine cannot be neutral, only toxic.
      The capabilities of the states overpower the capabilities of the Russian Federation. The dollar system allows them to manage the countries immersed in it, the states being on the other side of the Atlantic successfully grow a "tumor" - the Nazi Russophobic regime. The Russian Federation, alas, cannot do anything about it, since it is subject to blackmail and pressure so as not to interfere and silently look at the strengthening of the Ukrainian Reich, by the way, this situation resembles the "Yanukovych syndrome" criticized at the VO for cowardice, Yanukovych could disperse the Maidan, but blackmailed by the media and threat the arrest of Western property pulled "rubber" and as a result he had to drop his sneakers tick. It remains to be hoped that this tactic of the West will not work. If there is a war, it will be because of the cowardice of the Russian oligarchy, and the money will be taken away from them anyway.
      In theory, the EU needs to adopt a law like the "Monroe Doctrine" to ban US troops and military bases on the European continent, otherwise the latter can ignite a war, hoping to sit out and sell weapons to all warring parties.
  4. Professor
    Professor 19 December 2021 20: 44
    +8
    Now the main intrigue is how the North Atlantic Alliance will react. The world is waiting for a reaction. To declare that it will no longer expand to the east, like this, openly, it cannot afford. Otherwise, you can lose face and hegemon status within your borders. Therefore, it will play up

    Will not be. They will simply ignore the "ultimatum".
  5. CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 19 December 2021 20: 53
    -6
    The West will not comply with any guarantees, even if it is documented, they will still be deceived, Russia must act decisively and effectively in all areas and directions, then allies will appear, since there are enough supporters of Russia in the world
  6. demo
    demo 19 December 2021 21: 02
    +9
    Russia wants to be reckoned with. So that the US and NATO finally understand that Russia is not a country about whose interests you can wipe your feet.
    Do not wishful thinking.
    Remind me of what the US is doing with our diplomatic property?
    Or how they are "playing around" with Nord Stream 2? And this is despite the fact that these gray brains need gas, in the literal sense, like life itself.
    Maybe it’s worth remembering that the sanctions against the country and the people have been extended for 7 years in a row?
    Or maybe it is worth saying honestly that the country's leadership did not give a damn about what was happening to us, is happening and will happen only because a successful business selling everything and everyone could suffer?
    Perhaps it should be recalled that 70% of finance capital and 80% of industry belongs to foreigners?
    I will not remind you of a white rag instead of a flag.
    So what does Russia want if its leadership has driven itself, and together with the entire country, into such a situation?
    1. alekseykabanets
      alekseykabanets 19 December 2021 21: 16
      0
      I completely agree with your comment, but this point
      Quote: demo
      Perhaps it should be recalled that 70% of finance capital and 80% of industry belongs to foreigners?

      If it's not difficult, tell me where these numbers come from?
      1. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 19 December 2021 23: 26
        +2
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        I completely agree with your comment, but this point
        Quote: demo
        Perhaps it should be recalled that 70% of finance capital and 80% of industry belongs to foreigners?

        If it's not difficult, tell me where these numbers come from?

        From the ceiling! Where else does the lie come from? And the facts are outrageously simple, but they do not fit into the Washington training manual. I will cite them so as not to be unfounded:
        Thus, the share of the public sector in the revenue of the largest companies (included in the top 100) in the engineering industry increased from 77 to 79%. 48% of the industry's revenue comes from the state corporation Rostec.
        In the oil and oil and gas industry, the same indicator for three years increased from 61% in 2014 to 63% in 2017, in banking over the same period - from 86 to 92% (due to the transfer to the Bank of Russia of control over the Otkrytie corporation).
        https://bujet.ru/article/377053.php
        1. demo
          demo 20 December 2021 13: 16
          0
          One snowflake is not yet snow, not yet snow.
          One piece of rain is not yet rain.
          It is nice to realize that naive and gullible people have not yet died out in the country.
          More seriously, your data cannot serve as a compelling reason to really judge what you were trying to say.
        2. nickname7
          nickname7 15 February 2022 08: 21
          0
          The reality is not pretty and differs from the popular prints from the zomboyaschik. Almost all large and medium-sized businesses of the Russian Federation in foreign jurisdictions and offshore, I remember there was a scandal when it was necessary to find out who the owner of Sheremetyevo Airport could not be found, by the way, the main strategic airport, and who knows, maybe the CIA owns it through front companies.
          Even patriots take business offshore as a forced defense against raiding, and these are already signs of a mess, lawlessness and failure of an African-level state.
      2. demo
        demo 20 December 2021 13: 10
        0
        Look for - Vasily Simchera.
        And such data will open to you !!!!!!
      3. Cheerock
        Cheerock 21 December 2021 16: 54
        0
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        I completely agree with your comment, but this point
        Quote: demo
        Perhaps it should be recalled that 70% of finance capital and 80% of industry belongs to foreigners?

        If it's not difficult, tell me where these numbers come from?

        Never mind! There is no time to explain! All white patriots of catholic Russia (which we lost and found again) - immediately to the barricades !!! good
    2. Flooding
      Flooding 19 December 2021 21: 20
      +2
      Quote: demo
      Perhaps it should be recalled that 70% of finance capital and 80% of industry belongs to foreigners?

      preferably with evidence in hand.
      you know it is doubtful about 80%
    3. 75 Sergey
      75 Sergey 19 December 2021 21: 29
      +1
      And how rapaciously resources are being taken out of Russia and capital is being taken out, and this is under the control of the "state" - touch no way! And also corruption in all echelons of power and power structures.
    4. DED_peer_DED
      DED_peer_DED 19 December 2021 21: 32
      +2
      Really strange ... Why is it that "ours" are mad?



      because "At the piano ... the same as it was .."
    5. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 19 December 2021 23: 10
      +2
      Quote: demo
      Perhaps it should be recalled that 70% of finance capital and 80% of industry belongs to foreigners?

      Of course, you need to remind me. But you shouldn't lie godlessly ...
      According to the estimates of the department (IMF - Boa), from 2005 to 2014 the share of the public sector in the country's economy doubled - from 35 up to 70% of GDP.
      https://bujet.ru/article/377053.php
      And how many now - google - and you will find. laughing
    6. www3
      www3 21 December 2021 00: 45
      0
      Can you list the terrible sanctions imposed on Russia?
      jamon and cheese, need not be mentioned)
  7. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 19 December 2021 21: 17
    +1
    Today, the world is shared between the US with "tobacco", Russia and China! What to expect from this "world"?
    1. www3
      www3 21 December 2021 00: 47
      -2
      today it is determined whose raw material appendage Russia will be and nothing more))
  8. dedBoroded
    dedBoroded 19 December 2021 21: 24
    +4
    There will be no war, there will be such a struggle for peace that there will be no stone unturned from it ...
  9. 75 Sergey
    75 Sergey 19 December 2021 21: 26
    +4
    They have already put forward their demands, there will be no global security and agreement.
    Global security will be if they will always be under the threat of total destruction!
    Scary, but they want the same, only to enslave us and use resources for their own purposes.
    NATO - 4th Reich!
  10. Tagan
    Tagan 19 December 2021 21: 38
    0
    Quote: Professor
    Now the main intrigue is how the North Atlantic Alliance will react. The world is waiting for a reaction. To declare that it will no longer expand to the east, like this, openly, it cannot afford. Otherwise, you can lose face and hegemon status within your borders. Therefore, it will play up

    Will not be. They will simply ignore the "ultimatum".

    This ultimatum was not rolled out out of the blue and for a reason. Ignoring will contribute to Russia's subsequent actions.
  11. Tagan
    Tagan 19 December 2021 21: 48
    +2
    Quote: demo

    Perhaps it should be recalled that 70% of finance capital and 80% of industry belongs to foreigners?

    Is this already an axiom? If you just thought of it yourself, then of course it's better to remind))
  12. Dizel200
    Dizel200 19 December 2021 21: 55
    0
    Blah blah blah. They (the enemies) act cunningly and specifically as they need it, and we?
  13. Al_lexx
    Al_lexx 19 December 2021 23: 25
    -2
    Chatter. No more.
    Everything is simpler and at the same time more complicated, which is the ancient secret of Punchinelle.
    There is one word - endless provocation to condemn us in the practically pocket organization of the UN.
    They are crushing.
    We are standing still.

    It’s clear that they are afraid of us. But at the same time - they really want to.
    Let's do it this way. Everything Washington did boil down to chaos.
    We're ... sort of raking it up. The question is that they have more resources, and we have more desire and some motivation.
    It seems to me so ... Perhaps there are other levers, I don't know. But the fact that VVP does not want to repeat the fate of Gaddafi is a fact.

    If in essence, then everything is even simpler. America's boating capability surpasses ours, as does ours on land. This is a fact (the number of warheads) that neither side can ignore. Therefore, there are endless nonsense about the Russian threat to certain countries.
    ... Lithuania must be taken.)
  14. smaug78
    smaug78 19 December 2021 23: 32
    +3
    What pathos ...
  15. Keyser soze
    Keyser soze 20 December 2021 00: 09
    +4
    The world is waiting for a reaction ...


    The world does not care deeply. Europe is interested in covid and inflation. In Washington, they twisted a finger at the temple and the whole reaction. There are two lines in our press that no one reads. But here is the ninth article, a direct drama of the Latin opera.

    Russia has doused the United States and NATO with a bucket of cold water with its position.

    Write directly to the tank, why did you limit your imagination to a bucket? laughing
  16. AC130 Gunship
    AC130 Gunship 20 December 2021 03: 40
    +1
    There will be no real reaction. This is clear even to a baby. They were asked to cancel and reverse a program they have been working on for 30 years.
    It would be like if Biden woke up and dashed off to Russia something like: close half of the missile silos, moor all the submarines, close the base in Engels, move away from Lukashenka and return Crimea. What would be the reaction of the Kremlin? They would have laughed quietly over a glass of beer ...
  17. Keer
    Keer 20 December 2021 04: 37
    +3
    Where is the noise, where is the seething? I've read de Guardian from time to time, silence, comments on Brexit, so far, etc. What resource to read in English, where is the controversy going on?
  18. depressant
    depressant 20 December 2021 10: 31
    +2
    Well, let's say they sign something. And they will demand observance from us, not observing ourselves. Like the Minsk agreements. Every day I read in the news: "The EU urges Moscow to comply with the Minsk agreements."
    Outrageous!
    1. Daniil Konovalenko
      Daniil Konovalenko 20 December 2021 11: 21
      +2
      Well, let's say they sign something.
      And they will declare sanctions to each other,
      for violation of the terms smile Biden wants a Nobel Prize. smile
      1. depressant
        depressant 20 December 2021 12: 22
        +1
        Oh, Daniel ... I'm much more cynical. The two old men held secret negotiations and agreed on how they would portray their necessity to their peoples within the framework of the still existing pseudo-democracy. After all, it is clear that disapproval of even one item by Congress is tantamount to disapproval of the treaty. But there is activity, dust is raised.
        On the other hand, it can be seen that our internal situation is so unimportant that Putin needs to take some strong steps to justify his presidency. The same, apparently, with Biden. And the disapproval of the treaty by the United States will become, in Putin's opinion, approval of his actions in the eyes of his own people, that is, us. He hopes to raise his rating that way. Like, you see, I have a soul to them, and they. And all past the domestic economy.
  19. Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 20 December 2021 11: 18
    +2
    The world is waiting for a reaction
    "The world breathes in spring. Let the arsonist hiss and yell, the Dove flies."
  20. nikvic46
    nikvic46 20 December 2021 13: 42
    +1
    In the modern world, there are many artificial weapons in the fourth. The whole conversation about high politics ends with pipelines. Justice and benefit have become allies.
  21. AntiAleks
    AntiAleks 20 December 2021 16: 01
    +2
    "The world is waiting" - the world neighing and moving on - the ski season is in full swing.
    Except for the Russian Federation, no one unleashes a war under the sauce of a "peace treaty".