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Verkhovna Rada deputy: Turchinov withdrew Ukrainian troops from the Crimean peninsula in 2014 due to "secret agreements" between the United States and Russia

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The deputy of the Ukrainian Verkhovna Rada made a statement that today in Kiev and Washington there is a lot of talk about the "annexation" of Crimea by Russia, but in 2014 the peninsula seceded from Ukraine, in fact, with the consent of both Ukraine itself and the United States. The People's Deputy who made such a statement is Ilya Kiva, who is a member of the Opposition Platform - For Life (OLE).


According to Kiva, Ukraine and America "gave Crimea to Russia under the existing secret agreements."

Ilya Kiva said that the transition of the Crimean peninsula to the Russian Federation took place "in exchange for the coup d'etat that took place in Ukraine in 2014".

Kiva:

The United States brought controlled forces to power in Ukraine, while they could not ignore the Russian position, which has its own strategic objectives in the region.

The deputy of the Verkhovna Rada made such a statement in an interview with the Ukrainian edition of Telegraf. According to him, Russia and the United States are "two empires, therefore an agreement arose between them."

Kiva:

The USA turned our power over. And they said to Russia: Do you need Crimea? Okay, take it.

At the same time, the People's Deputy of the Verkhovna Rada said that it was for this reason that the then acting Ukrainian President Alexander Turchinov gave the order to withdraw troops from the territory of the Crimean Peninsula.

Let's remind that then part of the Ukrainian servicemen in Crimea decided to go over to the side of Russia.

According to Kiva, the United States "simply divorced the Ukrainians", having achieved what they wanted in the end - they put the authorities under control in Kiev.
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Facebook / Ilya Kiva
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  1. Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 18 December 2021 06: 56
    +8
    Kiva also started using substances? winked
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 18 December 2021 07: 06
      0
      Well, you understand that it is simply impossible to live with a sober head in Banderostan, if only somewhere in the wilderness, without different media.
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 18 December 2021 09: 27
        +8
        Verkhovna Rada deputy: Turchinov withdrew Ukrainian troops from the Crimean peninsula in 2014 due to "secret agreements" between the United States and Russia

        Eh, Kiva, Kiva! And when it was the United States and NATO that generally respected their agreements with Russia, when it was and is about protecting the national interests of the United States itself and the collective West in front of the same Russia ?!

        On the contrary, the United States missed the Crimea!
        In Washington, Crimea, like Crow's cheese, accidentally fell out of its beak due to the self-confidence of the Pentagon's special services.
    2. LiSiCyn
      LiSiCyn 18 December 2021 07: 16
      +7
      Quote: Pessimist22
      Kiva also started using substances?

      For a long time ... He himself, many times said that he had tried everything. yes
      1. alex neym_2
        alex neym_2 18 December 2021 07: 51
        +7
        And then I think where this term came from: "little green men" !!!
    3. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 18 December 2021 07: 28
      -3
      To refer to the "urban madman" who, at one time, was accused of drug addiction?
      It's not even bad form. This, apparently, is the lack of origin in the search for materials ...
    4. Avior
      Avior 18 December 2021 08: 27
      -1
      And he never stopped
    5. 72jora72
      72jora72 18 December 2021 08: 37
      0
      Kiva also started using substances?
      And he never stopped ...
    6. Metallurg_2
      Metallurg_2 18 December 2021 09: 33
      0
      So he never stopped.
    7. venik
      venik 18 December 2021 23: 02
      0
      Quote: Pessimist22
      Kiva also started using substances? winked

      =======
      Why "was"? More appropriate:"did not stop"!
    8. Vend
      Vend 20 December 2021 09: 36
      0
      Quote: Pessimist22
      Kiva also started using substances? winked

      The Ukrainian authorities are trying in every way to disown the surrender of Crimea. Now shifts the responsibility to the United States. The United States already had plans to create a military base in Crimea, and then once and would give laughing
  2. Alexander Ivanov_11
    Alexander Ivanov_11 18 December 2021 06: 59
    +5
    Yes, if he had not withdrawn the troops, there would have been no independent state of Ukraine, but there would have been an Autonomous Ukrainian Republic as part of the Russian Federation ...
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 18 December 2021 08: 22
      -5
      Since 1993, we have had no such thing as an autonomous republic. There is a republic within the Russian Federation.
      1. Alexander Ivanov_11
        Alexander Ivanov_11 18 December 2021 08: 31
        +1
        List of autonomous republics of the Russian Federation:

        1.Adygea
        2. Altai
        3.Bashkortostan
        4.Buryatia
        5.Dagestan
        6.Ingushetia
        7.Kabardino-Balkaria
        8.Kalmykia
        9.Karachay-Cherkessia
        10.Karelia
        11.Komi
        12 Crimea
        13.Mary El
        14.Mordovia
        15 Sakha (Yakutia)
        16.North Ossetia - Alania
        17.Tatarstan
        18.Tuva
        19.Udmurtia
        20.Khakassia
        21. Chechnya
        22. Chuvashia
        1. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 18 December 2021 15: 26
          +1
          This is a list of republics within the Russian Federation. There is no adjective "autonomous" in their name. All autonomous republics of the RSFSR removed the word "autonomous" from their names back in 1990-1992. And in the constitution of the Russian Federation there is the concept of "a republic within the Russian Federation".
      2. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 19 December 2021 20: 26
        +1
        Minusators, read the Constitution of the Russian Federation.
        1. alekseykabanets
          alekseykabanets 19 December 2021 20: 43
          +2
          Quote: Sergej1972
          Minusators, read the Constitution of the Russian Federation.

          What are you talking about? There are too many letters, do you think they can handle it?
    2. venik
      venik 18 December 2021 23: 12
      0
      Quote: Alexander Ivanov_11
      Yes, if he had not withdrawn the troops, there would have been no independent state of Ukraine, but there would have been an Autonomous Ukrainian Republic as part of the Russian Federation ...

      =======
      This topic (the surrender of Crimea as a result of "zrada" and "secret agreement", under pressure from the States), in my opinion, is gaining popularity in / in Ukraine. And that - very flattering to national pride, like: ".. Yes, if it were not for the zrada, the agreement and the pressure "because of the puddle", then we would have piled on these damned "Muscovites" ...". In short - just like Khazanov:" ...It's good that I run fast .... Otherwise, if he had caught up with me .... I would have made such a chop out of him..... ".
      But in general: it would be funny ... If it were not so sad!
  3. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 18 December 2021 07: 00
    +5
    Well, tady fsya, the responsibility lies only with America! The government of xoxland is out of business
  4. Anatoly 288
    Anatoly 288 18 December 2021 07: 01
    +3
    Everything is possible in this world ... and they also say that Zelya is our agent! If you cannot destroy the "structure", then lead it and bring it to the point of absurdity and it will itself be destroyed!
  5. Hurshed
    Hurshed 18 December 2021 07: 08
    0
    Kiev rushing about again? Who will he join this time?
    1. venik
      venik 18 December 2021 23: 18
      0
      Quote: Hurshed
      Kiev rushing about again? Who will he join this time?

      =======
      So it seems - to this OVERZEZHE and joined (at least - so they write!)
  6. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 18 December 2021 07: 08
    +5
    I suggest that the Ukrainians put the Bloody Pastor in prison for life.
    wassat
  7. Zoldat_A
    Zoldat_A 18 December 2021 07: 09
    +8
    Ilya Kiva said that the transition of the Crimean Peninsula to the Russian Federation took place “in exchange for the coup d'état that took place in Ukraine in 2014
    What nonsense to smack? She's in pain ...

    Control over Crimea = control over the Black Sea. In vain, or something, the Pentagon participated in tenders for re-equipment to their advantage renovation of general education schools? What does the US military have to do with the Ukrainian public education system to take such care of Crimean schools? And not all at once, but about those that are closer to the southern coast.
    Of course, Kiev, Maidan, cookies, a hedgehog by the side of Russia - all this is interesting and attractive, but if there was a purely American will - they would take both.

    Not fused.
    Therefore, the monstrous burning of America is causing the loss of Crimea by Ukraine, and the unreported - that, just about, the Black Sea was already in their hands, the American bases are already in the Crimea ... And ... stop

    And I. Kivu, based on what I saw with his participation on TV, considered smarter.
    1. andrewkor
      andrewkor 18 December 2021 07: 34
      +3
      I fully share your opinion and detailed commentary !!!! +++ !!!
    2. NDR-791
      NDR-791 18 December 2021 07: 55
      +4
      Quote: Zoldat_A
      And I. Kivu, based on what I saw with his participation on TV, considered smarter.

      Exactly. And he’s from the HLS, on which “ours” are betting. And in the Krajinski authorities there are simply no normal ones, a solid swan like a pike with cancer.
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 18 December 2021 08: 30
        +2
        Quote: NDR-791
        And he’s from the HLS, on which “ours” are betting.

        Well, let's say, there really is no one to place a "stake" on in Ukraine. Even the same Rabinovich, for all its adequacy, is by no means a national leader ... Even if you pour a thousand billions of money into him. So ... Our uncle, but regional. There would be someone to bet on - there would be a different government in Ukraine now. There is no one to pour money into.

        America has a different situation. They can pour money in and it will work, because Ukraine is now experiencing what we suffered from in the early 90s - "universal human values", "democracy", "abroad will help us." Only the disease is much more severe than ours, and the therapy, I'm afraid, will be much more difficult.
        1. NDR-791
          NDR-791 18 December 2021 08: 42
          0
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          There would be someone to bet on - there would be a different government in Ukraine now. There is no one to pour money into.

          This is absolutely certain.
          the disease is much more severe than ours, and therapy, I'm afraid, will be much more difficult.

          If at all possible. In our country 25 years ago, this could be said "in accordance with the times." The world went ahead, the impacts and reactions became tougher. And in the extreme "vaccination" it was not. The body may not be able to withstand it.
      2. 72jora72
        72jora72 18 December 2021 08: 42
        +2
        Exactly. And he’s from the HLS, on which “ours” are betting.
        Actually, Kiva was the head of the Poltava center of the Right Sector and the regional political leader of the Right Sector in the East of Ukraine ........... and then Avakov's advisor was ........
    3. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 18 December 2021 08: 28
      +4
      Quote: Zoldat_A
      Not fused.
      Therefore, the monstrous burning of America is caused by the loss of Crimea by Ukraine, and the unreported - that, just about, the Black Sea was already in their hands, the American bases are already in the Crimea ... I.

      I also believe that the value of Crimea for the United States was higher than that of the whole of Ukraine. Their painful reaction to his loss proves this. Even the people on the MH-17 flight did not regret ... Merkel resisted, did not impose European sanctions because of this. And then, so everything ... "coincided"!
      They began to actively mold an "enemy image" from Russia. Yes, with horns and hooves, and sulfur to smell.
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 18 December 2021 08: 47
        +2
        Eugene, hi !
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        I also believe that the value of Crimea for the United States was higher than that of the whole of Ukraine.

        That is why I think that Kiva took something forbidden. Well, if not prohibited, then in large quantities. Because to say that America has exchanged Crimea for Kiev, and, moreover, has agreed on this with Russia - in an adequate state, a man of such nonsense will not come up with such a bullshit.
  8. Quadro
    Quadro 18 December 2021 07: 15
    +4
    As always, with the stale, everyone is to blame, except for themselves.
  9. Nikolay Sayenko
    Nikolay Sayenko 18 December 2021 07: 33
    +3
    yeah, like the Crimeans have nothing to do with it ... and the fact that 80% of the Alliance went over to the side of Russia is also not convincing? soldier
    1. Adimius38
      Adimius38 18 December 2021 20: 48
      0
      It was said on the first channel laughing firstly, not the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but the Crimeans themselves who wanted to stay at home moved
  10. URAL72
    URAL72 18 December 2021 08: 02
    +2
    According to Kiva, the United States "simply divorced the Ukrainians", having achieved in the end what they wanted - they put the authorities under control in Kiev.

    Kiva didn't seem to understand everything. The United States needed Ukraine to draw it into NATO and place its bases there. This is the maximum task. But it did not work out - Russia reacted harshly, they did not expect this. Now America is forced to go to the minimum program - the destruction of the scientific, technical, intellectual, industrial potential of Ukraine, the creation of a terrorist state close to Russia, following the example of Afghanistan, Somalia, etc.
    1. Adimius38
      Adimius38 18 December 2021 08: 30
      -1
      he understood everything correctly, the United States gets Ukraine without any obstacle from Russia. Russia gets Crimea without much obstacle from the US
      1. a.ermol0ff
        a.ermol0ff 2 January 2022 21: 59
        0
        meaning? you yourself understood what you are saying
      2. a.ermol0ff
        a.ermol0ff 2 January 2022 22: 00
        0
        but then scare each other with war, right?
    2. Crimean partisan 1974
      Crimean partisan 1974 18 December 2021 09: 06
      +1
      close to Russia is a terrorist state following the example of Afghanistan, Somalia
      ...... this is the maximum program ... in here, no one was going to accept it because there are enough of their own burdens, but the bardel just ... for a cookie
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  12. Crimean partisan 1974
    Crimean partisan 1974 18 December 2021 09: 10
    +1
    Let's remind that then part of the Ukrainian servicemen in Crimea decided to go over to the side of Russia.
    ...... what part ... all ... with the exception of conscripts and a couple of dozen stoned command personnel ... and all ... with what also came from the military
  13. demo
    demo 18 December 2021 09: 16
    0
    At the same time, the People's Deputy of the Verkhovna Rada said that it was for this reason that the then acting Ukrainian President Alexander Turchinov gave the order to withdraw troops from the territory of the Crimean Peninsula.
    When you read such "fabrications", you don't even know how to relate to this?
    Either the delirium of a madman, or the delirium tremens of an alcoholic?

    An anegdote came to mind.
    Five cats are sitting and talking to each other.
    One says I want a cat so much that I just can't stand it.
    And then, on top of you, a cat appears!
    The whole shines, the coat is hair to hair. All so powerful. Brutal.
    Came up. He examined all the cats and the one that was speaking led.
    The next day, the cats got together and share their news. But everyone is interested in the situation with the brutal cat.
    The cat was silent, silent, and then says:
    "Girls. You won't believe it. All night, all night ...."
    Those:
    "All night!!!!!????"
    "Yes!"
    "The whole night, this mu ... k told me that he froze his eggs in Urengoy."

    Today the time has come for storytellers who will begin to get rid of them in oral creativity.
    First withdrew the troops. And then he wanted to send the "trains of friendship"?
    UROO.D.Y.
    1. a.ermol0ff
      a.ermol0ff 2 January 2022 21: 58
      0
      and what kind of troops were there?
  14. ugol2
    ugol2 18 December 2021 11: 47
    +8
    And even if they agreed, what is your servant's business?
    1. a.ermol0ff
      a.ermol0ff 2 January 2022 21: 55
      0
      what is the meaning of the treaty? there was no agreement, nonsense))
  15. Dizel200
    Dizel200 18 December 2021 13: 05
    0
    What is he carrying? Aren't you ashamed? And also a candidate of some sciences and a member of some academy, ugh intellectual wassat
    1. Roma 1977
      Roma 1977 18 December 2021 19: 10
      0
      M. b. member of sciences and candidate of the academy?
  16. singless
    singless 18 December 2021 18: 59
    -3
    such a feeling they are all storytellers there. speak with their tongues do not know what
  17. Adimius38
    Adimius38 18 December 2021 20: 56
    0
    Secret agreements are quite possible, and why not? can't this be? Personally, I saw absolutely no action on the part of the Russian authorities in order to somehow preserve the legitimate power of Ukraine and prevent the seizure of the country by the junta with the subsequent transition to the external control of the United States.
  18. Vasily1976
    Vasily1976 19 December 2021 13: 44
    0
    In my opinion, this is not even hot
  19. a.ermol0ff
    a.ermol0ff 2 January 2022 21: 52
    0
    dreamer, paranoid
  20. Sidor Pyatnitsky
    Sidor Pyatnitsky 6 February 2022 14: 46
    0
    Kiva is still pissing .. Does he have incontinence or what?
    Either one builds forecasts more stupid than the other, then an analysis of events that even the Nazis would not come up with.
    On the face of a clear inadequate!