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The results of a poll in Ukraine: more than two-thirds of Ukrainians will not go to war with Russia if it starts

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As shown by the results of a survey conducted by the Kiev International Institute of Sociology (KIIS), more than two-thirds of Ukrainians will not go to war with Russia if it suddenly starts. Pick up weapon only about 33 percent of Ukrainian citizens are ready.


This was reported by the Ukrainian news agency "TT-info".

True, if the Russian army ends up in Ukraine, another 22 percent of its residents agree to "hold a podium" on this matter. At the same time, almost every fourth respondent in the event of a war with Russia will leave their country and go abroad. It turns out that about 8 million can turn into refugees or displaced persons.

The poll was conducted this month in every Ukrainian region. Interviewers spoke with 18 Ukrainians at least XNUMX years of age.

Earlier, the adviser to the head of the Zelensky Office, Aleksey Arestovich, promised the Russian troops a "bloodbath" in the event of their "invasion" of Ukraine. He argued that local residents would "shoot from every window" at the soldiers from Russia. But the poll shows that the bulk of the country's inhabitants do not want to fight.

In September, former Verkhovna Rada deputy Volodymyr Oleinik wrote on his Facebook page that the West was trying to foment the Ukrainian-Russian war by pushing Kiev towards it. But neither the Russians nor the Ukrainians want to fight each other.

Against this background, a completely extravagant idea appeared that "Kiev and Moscow may ultimately enter into an agreement, the result of which will be a total weakening of Europe."
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  1. Niko
    Niko 17 December 2021 16: 24
    0
    Of the 33 percent of those who are ready to fight, 80 are over 75 years old?
    1. Bashkirkhan
      Bashkirkhan 17 December 2021 16: 50
      +10
      In Nezalezhnaya there are now less than 40 million people. Of these, more than 30% are pensioners, 20 percent of the pre-retirement age. Those. minus 20 million at once. Of the remaining, more than 5 million (and I think about 7) are on robots outside the country, and these are mostly young people or mature people under 50. A little more than 10 million remain, of which half are cubs, probably a third are cripples or all sorts of marginalized people. It should be noted the quality of the exodus of the population from Ukraine, and this is the able-bodied population, those who work for the economies of neighboring states.
      1. Doccor18
        Doccor18 17 December 2021 17: 38
        0
        Quote: Bashkirkhan
        Those. minus 20 million at once. Of the remaining

        And minus 10 million women ...
        1. Andrei Nikolaevich
          Andrei Nikolaevich 17 December 2021 19: 23
          -8
          The poll was carried out, apparently at the Kievsky railway station in Moscow? Something I do not believe in the objectivity of this survey. The percentage is clearly overstated. Otherwise, how can one explain the fact that less than 15 percent of the citizens of Ukraine voted for the Opposition Bloc "in the elections to the top tier? It doesn’t stick like that ....
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 17 December 2021 21: 37
            -3
            Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
            Something I do not believe in the objectivity of this survey.

            IMHO, a custom survey, definitely. yes
            Firstly, there are no others on the 404 right now.
            Secondly, the purpose of the survey is clear to everyone:
            It turns out that about 8 million can turn into refugees or displaced persons.

            By this they frighten Europe and demand from NATO protection from Russia. hi
            1. Vladimir Mashkov
              Vladimir Mashkov 19 December 2021 20: 36
              +1
              Quote: Alex777
              IMHO, a custom survey, definitely.

              I completely agree with you that the survey was mainly attended by "patriots". One can imagine what would have happened if the poll had been free and reflective true mood!
          2. Volkof
            Volkof 17 December 2021 21: 46
            +3
            Do you believe in fair elections in Ukraine, which are held by pi_ndos? Holy naivete! .. And the Maidan was prepared and organized by pi_ndosy! ... In the American embassy, ​​intelligence officers and curators do not get big money for nothing ... And another third of the inhabitants of Ukraine would have met the Russian army with flowers, and maybe more ...
          3. bistrov.
            bistrov. 19 December 2021 08: 57
            +1
            Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
            for the Opposition bloc "in the elections to the top tier, less than 15 percent voted

            It's one thing to fight, it's another thing to talk with your tongue ...
            Yes, and those of that "third" that are going to fight, I strongly doubt that they will go to fight when it is really required ..., few of them imagine what war is, especially modern war ...
      2. Hypertension
        Hypertension 17 December 2021 18: 51
        -1
        Quote: Bashkirkhan
        A little more than 10 million remain, of which half are cubs, probably a third of cripples or various kinds of marginalized.

        It is believed that in the event of the outbreak of large-scale hostilities, the required level of the state's mobilization potential is estimated at 10 to 20%.
        Let's take 40 million inhabitants of Ukraine for an even account. The population is rapidly aging, as you noticed, so about 4 million can and will scrape together. But what will they be armed with? The Soviet warehouses are already sold out ...
        1. Kisa
          Kisa 17 December 2021 19: 23
          +10
          Quote: Hyperion
          required level of mobilization potential

          Yes, not their bayonets should be considered - and think about how to regain their loyalty. every second relative here and there. where is Zeli's alternative? Why did they clean up Medvedchuk's channels? where is the oppoblock? except for Muraev Boyko, no one is heard ... where is our diplomatic game in general? yes they will put pressure on gas in winter. yes, they will twist their hands with the help of the Americans in Minsk ... but for the most part they did not create an alternative
          1. Hypertension
            Hypertension 17 December 2021 19: 30
            +2
            Quote: kitty
            yes, not their bayonets should be counted - but thinking about how to return their loyalty

            But what about "Hope for the best, prepare for the worst"? It would be good to regain loyalty, but no matter how late it was ... It was necessary to work on this 20-30 years ago, or even earlier.
            1. evgen1221
              evgen1221 17 December 2021 19: 49
              +2
              Here, many say that it was necessary to work better with ukrami earlier, but didn't we forgive them a little, gave them, they opened the market and almost visa-free. What did we do wrong and what did the Americans do? This is somehow generally not discussed for some reason. The carve-up of property, privatization with the sale of everything that is not nailed down, the international of the lads, and the rest of us that they were at the same time engaged in both countries with enthusiasm. But they ended up selling something earlier than ours and they sold their country, we’ll run out of something to sell, ours will also do it because of one bottling of personnel at all posts in both countries.
              1. Hypertension
                Hypertension 17 December 2021 19: 53
                +2
                Quote: evgen1221
                But they ended up selling something earlier than ours and they sold their country, we’ll run out of something to sell, ours will also do it because of one bottling of personnel at all posts in both countries.

                It is very similar to the truth. Already on the sly, the territory is being rented out, they are training ...
              2. atalef
                atalef 17 December 2021 20: 11
                -6
                Quote: evgen1221
                What did we do wrong and what did the Americans do?

                Well, people on the inner feeling understand who is lying and who is not.
                It's like with Crimea and Donbass - everyone knows the truth - but they continue to sing fairy tales.
                Quote: evgen1221
                But they ended up selling something earlier than ours and they sold their country,

                strange, why not you?
                Maybe the problem is deeper?
              3. Kisa
                Kisa 17 December 2021 21: 57
                +1
                Quote: evgen1221
                but did we not forgive them little, gave them, opened the market and

                Well, let's go for garlic - if you had the opportunity to send your children to study in Geneva or Zhitomir, what would they choose? and now the Ukrainians have a choice after 7 years between Zhitomir and the complete Zh @ .oy. Geneva failed. of course tired. have to choose between bad and worst
                1. bukhach
                  bukhach 18 December 2021 02: 49
                  0
                  So I did not understand you, the ukrov had a choice between bad and worse, and they chose a complete well ... poo, how did it happen? I heard, of course, about the genius of this people, but to such an extent !?
                2. evgen1221
                  evgen1221 18 December 2021 05: 13
                  +1
                  Well, as an option to make Zhitomir no worse than Geneva in those 30 years, was it not considered in principle due to the kargokult? Initially, there were enough resources, the charm of candy wrappers won.
        2. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 17 December 2021 20: 46
          +1
          Quote: Hyperion
          But what will they be armed with? The Soviet warehouses are already sold out ...

          Will foreign countries help them? (With)
        3. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 17 December 2021 22: 22
          +1
          Quote: Hyperion
          The population is rapidly aging, as you noticed, so that about 4 million can and will scrape together.

          And those are mostly from the Westerners. And we don’t need it, let its neighbors take it apart according to their interests and then suffer for decades. The main thing is not to let them from there to us for a cannon shot either after 5 or after 20 years.
      3. New Year day
        New Year day 17 December 2021 19: 41
        -2
        Quote: Bashkirkhan
        In Nezalezhnaya there are now less than 40 million people.

        for 2019 35 million voters, turnout - 19 million
      4. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 17 December 2021 20: 00
        +1
        "Of these, more than 30% are pensioners, 20 percent of the pre-retirement age." ////
        ----
        "The Accounts Chamber: the number of pensioners in Russia as of April 1, 2021 amounted to 42,6 million people" - 29%.
        The demographics of Russia and Ukraine are very similar.
        Aging population. There are not many recruits.
        Young people in Russia are mainly the Caucasus.
        1. Sands Careers General
          Sands Careers General 17 December 2021 21: 52
          -1
          A lot of young people with in / on fled to Russia when the war began.
          Hundreds of thousands, if not millions
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 17 December 2021 22: 26
            0
            Quote: Sands Career General
            A lot of young people with in / on fled to Russia when the war began.
            Hundreds of thousands, if not millions

            Probably, it was from these people who came "before grandmother" that more than a hundred "Krasnovites" were caught in 30 regions of Russia, ready to carry out terrorist attacks and other subversive activities?
            1. Sands Careers General
              Sands Careers General 18 December 2021 01: 10
              +1
              Someone goes to shit, but most leave the unfinished 404 for Russia to live.
        2. Sergej1972
          Sergej1972 18 December 2021 00: 15
          +4
          The national republics of the North Caucasus make up one twentieth of the population of the Russian Federation. Even if the percentage of young people there is above the average Russian level, the youth of these republics under no circumstances will be able to make up the majority of young people in the Russian Federation.
        3. bukhach
          bukhach 18 December 2021 02: 59
          -1
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Aging population. There are not many recruits.
          Young people in Russia are mainly the Caucasus.
          Are you, in general, aware of pensioners in Russia at 35 years old, and other "senile" years? The Caucasus, of course, is young, here you are right.
      5. Niko
        Niko 17 December 2021 22: 29
        +5
        I live in Berlin. There are a lot of people here in Ukraine (just of draft age). I’m conducting my poll .... over the past year, I have interviewed 20 people .. (a little, I agree), but not one of them is going to go "to defend the homeland" eli "the Russians will trample "
      6. zenion
        zenion 18 December 2021 18: 26
        -5
        Bashkirkhan. People are often wrong. Here was a land on feet of clay that Hitler could not defeat. And the louse won and the giant fell. Small and larger pieces remained. A large piece was divided between the feudal lords. The satrap thinks he controls them.
    2. Vol4ara
      Vol4ara 17 December 2021 16: 58
      +12
      I wonder how much we agree to go to war with Ukraine right now
      1. Alexander 3
        Alexander 3 17 December 2021 17: 40
        +5
        They will go to war with Bandera, with the Nazis.
        1. atalef
          atalef 17 December 2021 20: 12
          -2
          Quote: Alexander 3
          They will go to war with Bandera, with the Nazis.

          but of course.
          Famous rhetoric.
          Bandera and fascists.
          Yes Yes.
          1. Uncle Vanya Susanin
            Uncle Vanya Susanin 19 December 2021 19: 11
            +1
            but of course.
            Famous rhetoric

            Well, your rhetoric has long been known - "LDNR are terrorists, and there are no Nazis or Bandera in Ukraine"!
      2. Incvizitor
        Incvizitor 17 December 2021 18: 35
        +1
        Until now, there are a lot of volunteers to fight the Nazis, and officially they will go even more.
      3. tolmachiev51
        tolmachiev51 18 December 2021 04: 49
        +2
        sofa troops have not been canceled !!!
      4. sailor roman
        sailor roman 18 December 2021 19: 28
        -2
        I know very well that many will go and are already going.
    3. VORON538
      VORON538 17 December 2021 17: 39
      0
      The main problem of the Ukrainian Gauleiters is that Russia does not want to fight with Ukraine.
    4. Anachoret
      Anachoret 17 December 2021 17: 47
      +5
      In terms of consumption and the so-called cash population in Ukraine, in fact, about 28 million, not 40) this is the data of the same Ukrainian sociologists before they were obliged to talk about 40 again and tell how Zel is doing well, and the Ukrainian army - the strongest on the continent ... while no one sees them)))
      And this was statistics for business marketing about consumption)) and the policy of the force movement threw 12 million))
      As for the fact that 8 million will become refugees - to promise and get married are two big differences, as they say in Odessa)) in fact, it is difficult for a rooted person to do this, and when faced with new realities (the Russian administration), the majority will break off, because everything is fine anyway , like the residents of Crimea))
      It's just that while the pump is being pumped through the press, no, no, and yes)) many people are sure that everything is bad in Russia and “how everything is rotting there”) Russian channels and sites are now blocked in Ukraine and information is presented one-sided))
      And about "rallies and fight")) well, in words, everyone is Sid Vicious, but in reality ... you know))
      Rather, on the contrary, gangs of "hawks" will spontaneously gather, which will actively catch all mattress collaborators and war criminals, until they repainted, changed their sex, or ran away somewhere to warm their belly to honestly looted ones))
      1. Hypatius
        Hypatius 17 December 2021 18: 17
        +2
        If we assume that the Malorosov are 28 and not 40, then consider that the Velikorosov not 140, but 89 were 10 years ago. From the same opera of statistics. And in general, these are children's comparisons with pisyunami. Cho, I wanted to fight
        1. Uncle Vanya Susanin
          Uncle Vanya Susanin 19 December 2021 19: 16
          +1
          If we assume that the Malorosov are 28 and not 40, then consider that the Velikorosov not 140, but 89 were 10 years ago

          In Ukraine, electricity consumption has fallen by 1990 times since 2, while in Russia it has not even grown much, how do you like this statistics?
    5. New Year day
      New Year day 17 December 2021 19: 09
      -4
      Quote: Niko
      Of the 33 percent of those who are ready to fight, 80 are over 75 years old?


      https://www.kiis.com.ua/?lang=rus&cat=reports&id=1079&page=1
    6. Maz
      Maz 17 December 2021 19: 23
      +5
      Yeah, I was a month ago at the nentsi of Ukraine and sho I can say - they turned this "war" into a commercial enterprise long ago, and they only go there to earn money. No one will fight, resting their teeth on the ground, as soon as this commercial organization "Armed Forces" smells of gunpowder, it will move to huts, farmsteads and estates, they stole on the sly and built and equipped during these times. Do not believe me, I recently talked with an Israeli of Ukrainian origin who created these brigades there, and so he left there, not drinking salty, with obscenities and swearing, for all his high promises, thoughts, appeals and actions directed against Russia, by creating combat-ready units of the type of Israeli (Tsakhalovskaya) ultimately crashed against money-grubbing, theft and pokhrenizm of local lads, that newly-minted lords. Tse bulo shche in 2015-14. And it has not become better since then. And modern people saw a dollar sign in their eyes instead of pupils. And for him, dear, they will not risk their lives for the glory of the heroes-fools there. Bo dead do not need a dollar
      1. atalef
        atalef 17 December 2021 20: 16
        -7
        Quote: Maz
        Don't believe me, I recently spoke with an Israeli of Ukrainian origin.

        Have you ever talked to yourself?
        laughing
        Quote: Maz
        And modern people saw a dollar sign in their eyes instead of pupils.

        to myself again 7
        Otherwise, what are you doing in Israel?
        Quote: Maz
        And for him, dear, they will not risk their lives for the glory of the heroes-fools there. Bo dead do not need a dollar

        And your daughter in the IDF did the same for the babosiks? nk type like dad.
        Prisoner of Zion laughing
  2. fluoride
    fluoride 17 December 2021 16: 26
    -26
    In Russia, make such a survey, how many percent are ready to defend their homeland with arms in hand if the United States attacks us treacherously. Be extremely surprised by the percentage of consonants.
    1. alekseykabanets
      alekseykabanets 17 December 2021 16: 41
      +6
      Quote: Fluoride
      In Russia, make a survey of how many percent are ready to defend their homeland with arms in their hands if, say, the United States attacks us treacherously.

      Is this what the article is about? The author does not mention the USA at all, as well as the treacherous attack. The author writes that not all Ukrainians were brainwashed by a zombie.
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      2. New Year day
        New Year day 17 December 2021 19: 19
        -4
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        The author writes that not all Ukrainians were brainwashed by a zombie.

        A survey by the same institute + Levada Center:

        https://www.kiis.com.ua/?lang=rus&cat=reports&id=1078&page=1
        1. alekseykabanets
          alekseykabanets 17 December 2021 19: 28
          0
          Quote: Silvestr
          A survey by the same institute + Levada Center:

          This is all a zombie box, turn it off for a while, so the population of our two countries will very quickly have questions not to each other, but to the leadership of their states.
          1. New Year day
            New Year day 17 December 2021 19: 30
            -2
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            It's all a zombie box, turn it off for a while

            .. in both countries, but this will not be enough now
            1. alekseykabanets
              alekseykabanets 17 December 2021 19: 31
              +1
              Quote: Silvestr
              .. in both countries

              Yes, of course, I didn't finish it right away.
    2. kin
      kin 17 December 2021 16: 43
      +2
      The other day at work we had a conversation on this topic, who wanted to fight for the owners of factories, newspapers, steamers and for power, not a single one was found. Our company is 40-50 years old. I doubt that they will ask us, but the mood is.
      1. Barberry25
        Barberry25 17 December 2021 17: 19
        +2
        Well, sitting in a warm room, under a beer and with a full refrigerator, they will not fight, of course, if they give them a choice, but when the country is torn to shreds, and the best job is to pick berries in Poland, and for children to become prostitutes, and there will be no heating at all. .. Maybe then they will change their minds, but it will be too late. You can ask the Iraqis and Afghans how well they healed under the Americans ..
        1. Jacket in stock
          Jacket in stock 17 December 2021 18: 20
          -1
          Quote: Barberry25
          .Can ask the Iraqis

          Why is it so far away?
          Either we did not survive the "saints of the nineties."
          This is exactly how it was.
          1. mole
            mole 17 December 2021 18: 54
            +1
            Quote: Jacket in stock
            Quote: Barberry25
            .Can ask the Iraqis

            Why is it so far away?
            Either we did not survive the "saints of the nineties."
            This is exactly how it was.

            By the way, they also survived the nineties.
            Initially, the formulation of the question is incorrect, so if: "Are you ready not to fight, but to die for Ukraine's Independence?" And so you can fight in the rear, for example, as a military commissar, or, according to NATO standards, as a director of the center.
            1. New Year day
              New Year day 17 December 2021 19: 44
              0
              Quote: Mole
              Initially, the formulation of the question is incorrect, if only: "Are you ready not to fight, but to die for the Independence of Ukraine?"

              Interestingly, with the same formulation of the question of Russia, what result do you predict?
              1. mole
                mole 17 December 2021 20: 13
                0
                Ask the EDRs, they shape the future.
                Unfortunately.
          2. Barberry25
            Barberry25 17 December 2021 22: 20
            0
            so that's funny .. people don't remember .. in general
        2. atalef
          atalef 17 December 2021 20: 19
          -3
          Quote: Barberry25
          , but when the country is torn to pieces, and the best job is to pick berries in Poland, and for children to become prostitutes, and there will be no heating at all ..

          strange, but somehow all the (new) countries that have joined Europe have a slightly different opinion.
          They said the same thing about Poland.

          Quote: Barberry25
          You can ask the Iraqis and Afghans how well they healed under the Americans.

          And the Fghans are definitely better, and the Iraqis are the same.
          1. Barberry25
            Barberry25 17 December 2021 22: 32
            0
            The difference is that the Poles are used as soldiers in the fight against Russia, and what kind of consideration was prepared for Russia at one time, the CIA reported on the results of democratic reforms: "the collapse of several states by 2015" ... successful and prosperous "Poles" who are eternally sucked by the US and the EU? as much as one and a half lard a year from the United States in the form of "investments" and 7 billion euros a year from the EU .. And what's the point? importantly, they are only part of them, but they consider them their own, and Russia has always been recorded as an enemy ... or do you think that having won the war, they will suddenly start investing hundreds of billions in the development of Russia in order to build a powerful and rich state? In competitors? So they are right through Liberals have ALREADY announced a program to "democratize Russia in case of victory":
            1) Kaliningrad of Germany, Kuriles of Japan, PMR of Moldova, Crimea and the South of Russia, Ukraine, Vyborg of Finland, Ivangorod of Estonia ... in short, etc. and etc.,
            2) Everyone who does not want to go to Russia, the Caucasus and the rest of the republics ... As a result, instead of one country there will be a couple of dozen others who will squabble among themselves ..
          2. Barberry25
            Barberry25 17 December 2021 22: 36
            +3
            By the way, has Georgia become prosperous? Even more like a brothel / brothel for the Turks
        3. kin
          kin 17 December 2021 21: 37
          +1
          Judging by the number of pluses, few think the same way as you. And who is going to tear the country to shreds? The country has long been divided by the powers that be, and the first ones will take it apart.
        4. www3
          www3 19 December 2021 00: 08
          -2
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iS3Gy5uMdsE

          Is this about this bombed Iraq in question?))
          1. Barberry25
            Barberry25 19 December 2021 00: 15
            +1
            and there were battles? in Kurdistan?
      2. Vladimir61
        Vladimir61 17 December 2021 17: 38
        +13
        Quote: kin
        The other day at work we had a conversation on this topic, who wanted to fight for the owners of factories, newspapers, steamers and for power, not a single one was found. Our company is 40-50 years old. I doubt that they will ask us, but the mood is.
        Dear! You explain to us that YOU have it in Kazakhstan, not in Russia!
        So for reference from your comments
        I'm from Kazakhstan. There is oil and gas here, and a bunch of everything else, but it's like in the movie "I'm not afraid with you", remember? - this is not your tooth and not even mine ... and our prices are higher than in Novosibirsk and the choice is richer there. Both groceries and clothing. The only thing is gasoline, and they want to raise the price for it, otherwise all the Russians will buy.
        1. kin
          kin 17 December 2021 21: 26
          -2
          Ha ha ha! It's funny. He lived in Kazakhstan, now in Russia. There are millions like me. If you have any more questions, I will answer.
          1. Barberry25
            Barberry25 17 December 2021 22: 33
            -1
            So why did they move from native Kazakhstan to terrible Mordor?
            1. kin
              kin 18 December 2021 09: 47
              0
              What kind of nonsense are you in your dreams?
              1. Barberry25
                Barberry25 18 December 2021 17: 09
                -1
                so, according to local comments, you are from Kazakhstan, and then you moved to Russia and now you are talking about "I will not defend this country in case of war" ... That's why I ask .. why have you forgotten in Russia then?
                1. kin
                  kin 21 December 2021 09: 44
                  -1
                  Forgotten what? First of all, I forgot to ask you.
                  Do you want war, do you want your children to be sent to war? You have an unhealthy desire.
                  1. Barberry25
                    Barberry25 21 December 2021 11: 23
                    0
                    ooo, let's get excuses for 300) ... You just have an unhealthy desire to move where it is warmer than the 5th point, and then directly declare that if I don’t defend this place, I’ll run somewhere else ... So run right away to Europe, call yourself a political refugee and defender of LGBT people, maybe they will give you a ration)
                    1. kin
                      kin 22 December 2021 05: 49
                      -1
                      Hare is splashing saliva here. God forbid that your heroism is ever needed, otherwise you will break your forehead.
                      1. Barberry25
                        Barberry25 22 December 2021 10: 09
                        0
                        but what does my heroism have to do with it when you just write here that Russia is not your home, but a place where you can grab a piece fatter. Or does it really hurt your eyes?
      3. atalef
        atalef 17 December 2021 20: 17
        -2
        Quote: kin
        The other day at work, we had a conversation on this topic, there were not a single one who wanted to fight for the owners of factories, newspapers, steamers and for power.

        And the factories in which country are they located?
    3. Ashes of Claes
      Ashes of Claes 17 December 2021 16: 47
      -3
      Quote: Fluoride
      how many percent are ready to defend their homeland with weapons in their hands if, say, the United States attacks us treacherously. Be extremely surprised by the percentage of consonants.

      Apparently, because the "war with the United States" seems to be an exchange of nuclear blanks)
      If we conduct a survey at VO about the hypothetical invasion of the Republic of Armenia into Ukraine, then the result, I believe, is also predictable. The main thing is to formulate it correctly.
    4. Flooding
      Flooding 17 December 2021 17: 00
      0
      Quote: Fluoride
      Be extremely surprised by the percentage of consonants

      you personally will be among whom?
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 17 December 2021 17: 34
        +4
        Quote: Flood
        you personally will be among whom?

        From "ayatutprichem".
    5. seti
      seti 17 December 2021 17: 18
      +8
      I am ready to fight with the United States for the future of my people, country and my child. Are you not ready ..?
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 17 December 2021 17: 25
        -8
        Are you sure that for the future of your people, country and your child it is necessary to fight with the United States? Don't you think of any other options? Well - if you look around carefully?
        1. Incvizitor
          Incvizitor 17 December 2021 18: 37
          +1
          Well, not with their country and with their people as liberals, for sure.
          1. alekseykabanets
            alekseykabanets 17 December 2021 19: 43
            -1
            Quote: Incvizitor
            Well, not with their country and with their people as liberals, for sure.

            And you do not confuse the people with the nonhumans who ruined the USSR and stole the people's property into their pockets. And you have dragged the liberals here in vain, they have not disappeared from the government.
            1. atalef
              atalef 17 December 2021 20: 22
              -1
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              And you have dragged the liberals here in vain, they have not disappeared from the government

              but it is they who will send you to the war. request
              1. alekseykabanets
                alekseykabanets 17 December 2021 20: 29
                +1
                Quote: atalef
                but it is they who will send you to the war.

                Yes, I do not argue. They themselves, of course, will be the main telepatriots.
        2. alekseykabanets
          alekseykabanets 17 December 2021 19: 38
          -4
          Quote: paul3390
          Don't you think of any other options?

          Apparently not.)))) TV replaced everything.
          Quote: paul3390
          Well - if you look around carefully?

          And if you look around carefully, then the picture with the TV does not beat, and therefore interferes with spiritual calmness and spirituality.
      2. Flooding
        Flooding 17 December 2021 17: 40
        +1
        Quote: seti
        Are you not ready ..?

        it is not clear to whom you addressed your question.
      3. New Year day
        New Year day 17 December 2021 19: 44
        -2
        Quote: seti
        I am ready to fight with the United States for the future of my people, country and my child.

        The USA came to the war?
        1. seti
          seti 17 December 2021 20: 37
          0
          If you do not know, then we have been at war with them for a long time. Already for 70 years and maybe more. War is not only about shooting at the enemy with a rifle. This is both politics and economics.
          1. atalef
            atalef 17 December 2021 20: 39
            -3
            Quote: seti
            If you do not know, then we have been at war with them for a long time. Already like this for 70 years

            so how are your personal successes?
            ё
            Quote: seti
            War is not only about shooting at the enemy with a rifle. This is both politics and economics.

            then it's better to give up right away. laughing
            1. seti
              seti 17 December 2021 20: 40
              +4
              Give up.
              1. atalef
                atalef 17 December 2021 20: 41
                -2
                Quote: seti
                Give up.

                fight.
                3 generations (70 years, according to you) are fighting.
                maybe it is worth changing the mantra?
                1. seti
                  seti 17 December 2021 20: 41
                  +3
                  Maybe it’s worth not writing stupid words?
                  1. atalef
                    atalef 17 December 2021 20: 43
                    -3
                    Quote: seti
                    Maybe it’s worth not writing stupid words?

                    in what?
          2. kin
            kin 17 December 2021 21: 46
            +1
            And the United States knows that we are at war with them now and how it is economies, something incomparable here. I haven't watched Channel One for a long time.
            1. Uncle Vanya Susanin
              Uncle Vanya Susanin 19 December 2021 19: 30
              +1
              And the United States knows that we are at war with them now and how economies do it.

              Of course they know, or do you think they imposed sanctions for the development of democracy in Russia, laughing
              1. kin
                kin 21 December 2021 09: 50
                0
                So the United States imposes sanctions against certain individuals, i.e. the owners of factories, newspapers, ships and their businesses. These same individuals and without any sanction destroyed so much in the country ...
                1. Uncle Vanya Susanin
                  Uncle Vanya Susanin 21 December 2021 18: 53
                  +1
                  Those who destroyed in the country, for a long time abroad, together with their "honestly earned" capital, no one introduced any sanctions against them hi
                  Moreover, some were given the Nobel Peace Prize!
      4. atalef
        atalef 17 December 2021 20: 22
        -3
        Quote: seti
        I am ready to fight with the United States for the future of my people, country and my child. Are you not ready ..?

        Well, the conversation seems to be about Ukraine.
        1. alekseykabanets
          alekseykabanets 17 December 2021 20: 34
          -2
          Quote: atalef
          Well, the conversation seems to be about Ukraine.

          There is little patriatism in the branch, the people are not eager to die with shouts of "Forward! For Putin and Rotenberg! For Abramovich and Potanin!" So you have to braid "treacherous ovs".
          1. atalef
            atalef 17 December 2021 20: 37
            -4
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            Quote: atalef
            Well, the conversation seems to be about Ukraine.

            There is little patriatism in the branch, the people are not eager to die with shouts of "Forward! For Putin and Rotenberg! For Abramovich and Potanin!" So you have to braid "treacherous ovs".

            Well, it's easier to conduct a survey.
            “While we are not intended for this, we, unfortunately, are not yet ready to fight extraterrestrial civilizations,” said Sergei Berezhnoy, assistant head of the Titov Main Testing Space Center.

            that's how, ruined the whole picture.
            In general, 100% are ready to fight with aliens, and in some regions even 140.
    6. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 17 December 2021 17: 37
      +2
      Quote: Fluoride
      Be extremely surprised by the percentage of consonants.

      After reading your comments, I realized that you are one of those who agree. I respect patriots.
    7. VORON538
      VORON538 17 December 2021 17: 48
      +6
      The data will surprise you a little. However, when the US soldiers actually appear on the territory of Russia, the Americans will not even have time to hand you a bandage on your sleeve. Your silent neighbor, who served in a military service, will finish with you first.
    8. TermNachTer
      TermNachTer 17 December 2021 18: 33
      +3
      It is pointless to conduct such a survey. If there is a war between Russia and the United States, the whole planet will indirectly participate in it)))
    9. tolmachiev51
      tolmachiev51 18 December 2021 04: 54
      0
      did not try to use brains!?
    10. Uncle Vanya Susanin
      Uncle Vanya Susanin 19 December 2021 19: 21
      +1
      Be extremely surprised by the percentage of consonants.

      Yes, 147% is a strong figure, not only everyone can comprehend it, but very few people can do it!
  3. Fox_Fox
    Fox_Fox 17 December 2021 16: 28
    -11
    local residents will “shoot from every window”.

    What are they going to shoot with? Will pick out "shells" from the anus laughing ?
  4. alekseykabanets
    alekseykabanets 17 December 2021 16: 28
    +15
    I think that sane Russians are not eager to fight the Ukrainians either.
    1. Kushka
      Kushka 17 December 2021 16: 53
      +15
      Sofa says to her Chaim:
      -Chaim, war is coming soon, you have 3 rubles for you, take a eggplant
      and march for kerosene.
      -Chaim is coming, to meet Vanka (there is a ruble in his pocket, but this is not enough)
      -O. Haim, where are you scratching with the eggplant?
      -Sofa, said there will be a war, sent for kerosene.
      -Haim, what are you listening to a stupid woman, what a war, let's go and have a drink.
      - Haim comes home under a shafe, a bold one, with an empty eggplant.
      - Haim, where is kerosene, where is 3 rubles?
      -Vanka said that you are a stupid woman and there will be no war.
      -Chaim, Vanka is good - he has a gun on his shoulder and will go to war,
      and you will sit in a cellar without light, like doo ..... k!
      1. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 17 December 2021 17: 12
        -12
        Quote: Kushka
        Sofa says to her Chaim:
        -Chaim, war is coming soon, you have 3 rubles for you, take a eggplant
        and march for kerosene.
        -Chaim is coming, to meet Vanka (there is a ruble in his pocket, but this is not enough)
        -O. Haim, where are you scratching with the eggplant?
        -Sofa, said there will be a war, sent for kerosene.
        -Haim, what are you listening to a stupid woman, what a war, let's go and have a drink.
        - Haim comes home under a shafe, a bold one, with an empty eggplant.
        - Haim, where is kerosene, where is 3 rubles?
        -Vanka said that you are a stupid woman and there will be no war.
        -Chaim, Vanka is good - he has a gun on his shoulder and will go to war,
        and you will sit in a cellar without light, like doo ..... k!

        And then Kushka in ROA to Vlasov. And Katz went to reconnaissance.
        1. Kushka
          Kushka 17 December 2021 18: 28
          +6
          Even if the ROA takes 70-year-olds, from Vlasov
          there was no fleet (and thank God, there was no such
          the shame was not enough for the Andreevsky Flag).
          And when it was supposed to serve, Kushka served his
          - under the flag of the USSR Navy.
          PS Do you at least understand that THIS is the raising of the Flag DAILY!
        2. Kushka
          Kushka 17 December 2021 18: 34
          +4
          Israel Ilyich Fisanovich (10 [23] November 1914, Elisavetgrad - 27 July 1944, Norwegian Sea) - Soviet submariner, Hero of the Soviet Union.
          If you are a scout, let Katz be for you.
          And I am a sailor - my heroes are Marinescu and Fisanovic
          (The last one is also from my hometown!)
        3. alekseykabanets
          alekseykabanets 17 December 2021 18: 52
          +1
          Quote: Aron Zaavi
          And Katz in intelligence

          Dear Aron, you don't need to react so violently! It's just an anecdote, there are a lot of them about any nation. Any adequate person understands that the contribution of the Jewish people to the Second World War is no less than the contribution of Georgians, Ukrainians or Russians, or any other people of the USSR. drinks
    2. Real Pilot
      Real Pilot 17 December 2021 16: 59
      +3
      They are ready to hold a podium, for sure! The poll doesn't lie here. Numerous and with tricolors. fellow
      But to fight for American interests - ha, look-whistle! And then the combat percentage is greatly overestimated ...

      Well, for the domestic Russian gas price, festivities will begin under the portraits of the Great and the Terrible ... They only talk about our president on all channels.
      They made such a PR to him that it is almost a cult of personality! And the sign from minus to plus changes simply by a set of TV channels ...
      1. Ashes of Claes
        Ashes of Claes 17 December 2021 17: 16
        -7
        Quote: RealPilot
        They are ready to hold a podium, for sure! The poll doesn't lie here. Numerous and with tricolors.

        with tricolors? Ukrainians?
        With whom? Dutch?
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 17 December 2021 17: 44
        0
        Quote: RealPilot
        And the sign from minus to plus changes just by a set of TV channels ...

        Oh, lafa! The TV broke down yesterday at home!
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 17 December 2021 17: 40
      +1
      Quote: aleksejkabanets
      I think that sane Russians are not eager to fight the Ukrainians either.

      Do not rush to fight, but do everything so that the war does not start, and it will be patriotism. Only the frostbitten ones want war.
    4. Egor53
      Egor53 17 December 2021 18: 07
      0
      Russia does not need to send our troops into the territory of Ukraine. It is enough to destroy the Ukrainian army with missile strikes. Several thousand Iskanders and Calibers will be enough for this. Further Donetsk and Lugansk corps, supplemented by reservists and volunteers, 2 days pass to Transnistria, taking along the way Mariupol, Berdyansk, Nikolaev, Kherson and Odessa.
      All key posts in the liberated territories are filled with citizens of Donbass and Transnistria.
      After another 2 days, the buildings are deployed to Kiev.
      The Ukrainian government in exile dumps into Warsaw.
      1. Kushka
        Kushka 17 December 2021 18: 42
        +3
        "Shaw, again?" (FROM)
        It was already - in the 18th they took it, in the 20th they gave it up (with an additional payment),
        in 39 they took it - in 41 they gave it away, in 45 they took it, in 91 they gave it away
        (this time in bulk).
      2. atalef
        atalef 17 December 2021 20: 25
        0
        Quote: Egor53
        Russia does not need to send our troops into the territory of Ukraine. It is enough to destroy the Ukrainian army with missile strikes. Several thousand Iskanders and Calibers will be enough for this. Further Donetsk and Lugansk corps, supplemented by reservists and volunteers, 2 days pass to Transnistria, taking along the way Mariupol, Berdyansk, Nikolaev, Kherson and Odessa.
        All key posts in the liberated territories are filled with citizens of Donbass and Transnistria.
        After another 2 days, the buildings are deployed to Kiev.
        The Ukrainian government in exile dumps into Warsaw.

        Hmm, Yegorino grief. sad
      3. www3
        www3 19 December 2021 00: 18
        0
        you have already defeated everyone))
        exhale .....))
        the strongest is about thousands of "calibers", which, according to Shoigu, are produced in 60 pieces per quarter)))
  5. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 17 December 2021 16: 29
    +3
    Now, in contrast to this poll, to conduct here, in the Russian Federation, how many citizens want to go to war in Ukraine?
    1. Dym71
      Dym71 17 December 2021 16: 45
      +9
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      how many citizens want to go to war in Ukraine?

      And why do we need this hemorrhoid in general? Better then on the Scandinavians, then at least they will not sit on the neck.
      1. atalef
        atalef 17 December 2021 20: 27
        0
        Quote: Dym71
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        how many citizens want to go to war in Ukraine?

        And why do we need this hemorrhoid in general? Better then on the Scandinavians, then at least they will not sit on the neck.

        and even better to Liechtenstein and Monaco.
        1. Dym71
          Dym71 18 December 2021 11: 48
          +1
          Quote: atalef
          and even better to Liechtenstein and Monaco.

          What's the point? They already all sit on Sputnik. wink
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      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 17 December 2021 17: 45
        -9
        Rude please.
        And the elastic in your underpants won't burst, to sign for the whole of Russia? I am also in it, and there are many adequate people around. Believe me, the percentage of adequate ones is not something that will surprise you - you will fall into a stupor!
        1. Ilya Nikitich
          Ilya Nikitich 17 December 2021 19: 07
          +7
          Yes, the percentage of adequate ones is high, so many people will want to crush the Ukronazi reptile.
        2. Ilya Nikitich
          Ilya Nikitich 17 December 2021 19: 09
          +6
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          I'm in it too

          And from where to Russia?
          1. The leader of the Redskins
            The leader of the Redskins 17 December 2021 19: 20
            -7
            And for what purpose are you interested? Where it is necessary, in the know and gave the go-ahead for a long time. Or are you trying to divide people according to national (whatever else) characteristics?
            1. Ilya Nikitich
              Ilya Nikitich 17 December 2021 23: 06
              +1
              Quote: Leader of the Redskins
              trying to divide people according to national

              No.
              Quote: Leader of the Redskins
              any other) signs

              Yes, according to the mind, conscience.
              Ukruintsy can be taken out of Ukraine, but Ukraine from ukruintsy never ...
              So what about fascism in ukruin?
              1. The leader of the Redskins
                The leader of the Redskins 18 December 2021 00: 07
                -6
                The secret does not exist.
                Do you have proof? In the studio. Just, to begin with, carefully study the terminology or at least the general concepts of what it is about.
                1. Ilya Nikitich
                  Ilya Nikitich 18 December 2021 12: 48
                  +2
                  Prohibition of the Russian language! banning books! movies! schools! internet resources! in Russian! Murder of Russians in Donbass!
                  If something looks like fascism

                  Sounds like fascism.

                  Behaves like fascism.

                  Then this is fascism ...
                  Or do you not understand this other thing?
                  ZY Hi Fastov ...
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                    1. Ilya Nikitich
                      Ilya Nikitich 18 December 2021 13: 56
                      0
                      A Ukrainian is a pathology of the brain, but as an Ukrainian you cannot understand this because you are a Ukrainian ..
                      What year did you pick these pictures from? And mind you, in Russia this crap has always been prohibited.
                      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                      the murder of Ukrainians in the Ukrainian Donbass ...

                      How would I explain to you, what would you understand, there are no Ukruintsy, just not in nature. There are normal Russians and there are Turkish and polonized Russians. There is a South Russian dialect, which someone is trying to pass off as the Ukruin language (sort of separate from Russian). And secondly, the people of Donbass do not consider themselves to be ukruinets.
                      ZY Whose Crimea?
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                      1. The leader of the Redskins
                        The leader of the Redskins 18 December 2021 14: 04
                        -2
                        Kashchenko in St. Petersburg. Here, in Moscow, is Alekseeva. But, if you are so worried about Ukraine, go to Glevakha or Pavlovka)
                      2. Ilya Nikitich
                        Ilya Nikitich 18 December 2021 14: 06
                        +2
                        You, in Fastov. And in Moscow there is a canachikova dacha ...
                      3. The leader of the Redskins
                        The leader of the Redskins 18 December 2021 14: 35
                        -2
                        Congratulations on the ban. You know, in the five years that I have been in VO, rudeness has not brought anyone to any good.
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                    3. Normal
                      Normal 18 December 2021 14: 09
                      +3
                      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                      the murder of Ukrainians in the Ukrainian Donbass ...

                      Was it necessary to reconcile, renounce their nationality and go to ukrainianism?

                      It was not the Russians from Donbass who came to Zapadenschina with weapons in their hands, but the Ukronans came to the Russian Donbass to force the Russians to renounce their identity.
                      And by the way Donbass-Russian land .... betrayed by Lenin for the sake of the political moment.
        3. Ilya Nikitich
          Ilya Nikitich 18 December 2021 12: 55
          +3
          Will it burst with you? What are you signing for Russia?
          Hi Fastov ...
    3. Vladimir61
      Vladimir61 17 December 2021 17: 52
      +6
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Now, in contrast to this poll, to conduct here, in the Russian Federation, how many citizens want to go to war in Ukraine?
      And we never intended and are not going to fight with Ukraine!
    4. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 17 December 2021 18: 39
      +4
      It depends on which one, if you destroy the junta and all the grunts surrounded, for example, by tactical missiles and from the air, I think many will agree.
      1. Santa Fe
        Santa Fe 18 December 2021 07: 22
        -2
        if you destroy the junta

        What junta

        Junta (Spanish junta - meeting) - group Military seized power
        1. Ilya Nikitich
          Ilya Nikitich 18 December 2021 12: 58
          +2
          Is that exactly what you want? Checkers or go? Everyone understood what it was about, and only you wanted to be well-read.
          1. Santa Fe
            Santa Fe 19 December 2021 03: 41
            0
            Is that exactly what you want?

            Don't use the word junta

            If you do not know and do not understand its meaning
        2. Incvizitor
          Incvizitor 18 December 2021 15: 54
          +3
          So a group of Nazis and seized power in 2014 all the current "power" is a consequence of this.
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    1. atalef
      atalef 17 December 2021 20: 27
      -3
      Quote: URAL72
      In words, yes. But in reality most of these "warriors" are capable of fighting only on a computer

      and who is fighting with you then?
      1. Ilya Nikitich
        Ilya Nikitich 18 December 2021 12: 59
        +2
        With us? With Russia? Maybe Israel? Well in Syria ..
  8. Dym71
    Dym71 17 December 2021 16: 39
    +3
    Against this background, a completely extravagant idea appeared that “Kiev and Moscow may ultimately enter into an agreement

    It is possible to totally weaken Europe only through collusion between the subjects of geopolitics.
    Where is there about the current Kiev? bully
    1. loki565
      loki565 17 December 2021 16: 49
      +1
      Well, yes, the fact that they sell the written-off trash to them will definitely not weaken Europe from this)))
  9. HAM
    HAM 17 December 2021 16: 39
    +2
    Soon, from "every window" they will shoot at Arestovichi and Co. ... and even without the "invasion" of the Russian army ... and the rest will "hold a rally" ...
  10. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 17 December 2021 16: 42
    +2
    Well, the APU will not fight. Even for the Donbass. Just sabotaging an offensive order. Adding to it massive desertion. And the survey of the population ... Strange survey. It would be among those liable for military service.
    Does the opinion of pensioners weigh a lot on this issue?
    1. Vladimir61
      Vladimir61 17 December 2021 17: 55
      +2
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Does the opinion of pensioners weigh a lot on this issue?

      In the trenches of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, today from 20 to 50! It is forbidden to send conscripts by law, only at the request and a signed contract.
  11. prior
    prior 17 December 2021 16: 43
    +8
    I would love to watch the war between America and England.
    Why aren't they fighting ?!
    And why should we fight with Ukraine for the demand of the Naglo-Saxons?
    How they want the Slavs to kill the Slavs. Already grind their teeth from all the irons.
    Well, not cannibals?
    1. Flooding
      Flooding 17 December 2021 16: 57
      +1
      Quote: prior
      Would love to watch the war between America and England

      and the meaning?
      new state in Europe?
  12. Ilya Nikitich
    Ilya Nikitich 17 December 2021 16: 45
    +3
    the poll shows that the bulk of the country's inhabitants do not want to fight.

    1. alekseykabanets
      alekseykabanets 17 December 2021 17: 11
      -8
      Are you burning with zeal? Ednoros, or what? Or do you want to rob?
  13. wow
    wow 17 December 2021 16: 51
    +7
    As a rule, the most pot-bellied, fat-assed and talkative "go to war with Russia", who flicker on TV in the programs "60 Minutes" and "Vremya Pokazhet".
    1. alekseykabanets
      alekseykabanets 17 December 2021 17: 10
      -4
      Quote: yo-mine
      As a rule, the most pot-bellied, fat-assed and talkative "go to war with Russia", who flicker on TV in the programs "60 Minutes" and "Vremya Pokazhet".

      Well, what is it that they do not fight then? They will not rot in the trenches, they will not tear their heads off (which is a pity), they fight very well on TV.
  14. pomor23
    pomor23 17 December 2021 16: 51
    +2
    And Katz, from the very beginning and always, offered - to surrender! ))
  15. Pavel57
    Pavel57 17 December 2021 16: 51
    +2
    Collusion - it would be ideal, but who will allow Kiev.
  16. From Tomsk
    From Tomsk 17 December 2021 17: 00
    +1
    It seems that Ulyanov-Lenin was creating Ukraine purely for a laugh.
    1. alekseykabanets
      alekseykabanets 17 December 2021 19: 03
      -4
      Quote: From Tomsk
      It seems that Ulyanov-Lenin was creating Ukraine purely for a laugh.

      Didn't Ulyanov-Lenin destroy Atlantis for an hour? You would watch less TV, and read more historical documents, then you would write less stupid things.
      1. From Tomsk
        From Tomsk 17 December 2021 20: 03
        +3
        What is a "historical document"?
        1. alekseykabanets
          alekseykabanets 17 December 2021 20: 13
          -5
          Quote: From Tomsk
          What is a "historical document"?

          Don't know how to use Google?
          https://buildwiki.ru/wiki/Historical_document
      2. From Tomsk
        From Tomsk 17 December 2021 20: 05
        +4
        The Bible is also a "historical document". Maybe you should read the Bible?
        1. alekseykabanets
          alekseykabanets 17 December 2021 20: 16
          -4
          Quote: From Tomsk
          The Bible is also a "historical document". Maybe you should read the Bible?

          The Bible is not a historical document. However, I answered you above.
  17. alien
    alien 17 December 2021 17: 02
    +8
    Behind the smokescreen about the "Russian attack" a vile event is taking place, to which (in their right mind) no citizen of Ukraine would ever agree.

    For three years, starting in 2017. built in Chernobyl - CSFSF (central storage facility for spent nuclear fuel)... On the site of the Ukrainian Energoatom it is called - "Storage of the future":

    "The design capacity of the CSFSF will be 458 HI-STORM containers, which will be able to accommodate 16 spent fuel assemblies."
    https://www.atom.gov.ua/ru/actvts-16/stroitelstvo-138/cssnf-139/p/hranilise_budusego_centralizovannoe_hranilise_otrabotannogo_adernogo_topliva_video-6842

    July 29, 2021 The test train to the CSFSF successfully passed along the restored Vilcha - Yanov railway line:

    “It is along this section of the railway, starting from September 2021, trains with spent nuclear fuel from three Ukrainian nuclear power plants will go to the CSFSF: Rivne, Khmelnytsky and South-Ukrainian.”, - the head of Energoatom expressed confidence.
    https://www.atom.gov.ua/ru/vb-66/cssnf-139/p/testovyj_poezd_do_choat_uspesno_prosel_po_vosstanovlennoj_zeleznodoroznoj_vetke_vil_ca_anov-47763

    The first batch of 30 containers of spent NUCLEAR fuel arrived at Chernobyl from the Rivne NPP on November 25 this year. The CSFSF launch is planned for the Power Engineer's Day - December 22 this year:
    https://infoatom.news/ru/2021/11/25/123925112021

    The CSFSF is located 13 kilometers from the border with Belarus and 150 kilometers from Russia ...
    As a result, the Americans slipped the "radioactive pig" into Ukraine, Belarus and Russia. And Europe - “hello for the future” from 16 529 spent fuel assemblies ...
    The trick is that Ukraine has 15 nuclear reactors built during the Soviet era. 12 were supposed to be closed by 2020. This means that in 5-10 years, not Ukrainian nuclear waste, but European nuclear waste will be deposited in the CSFSF. Such a nuclear burial ground in Europe ...
    1. Ashes of Claes
      Ashes of Claes 17 December 2021 17: 50
      -5
      Quote: Alien
      a vile event to which (in their right mind) no citizen of Ukraine would ever agree.

      Interestingly, when Rosatom exported waste from Ukraine to our storage facilities, did they ask the residents of Russia something? And what, in fact, is "disgusting" if the country, which has 4 nuclear power plants, has built its own central storage facility?
      Quote: Alien
      The trick is that Ukraine has 15 nuclear reactors built during the Soviet era. 12 were supposed to be closed by 2020. This means that in 5-10 years, not Ukrainian nuclear waste, but European nuclear waste will be deposited in the CSFSF. Such a nuclear burial ground in Europe ...

      Firstly, only Zaparozhskaya has a station-based ISF of four nuclear power plants. Secondly, if I understand correctly, Russia will return to Ukraine spent nuclear fuel from VVER-1000, which was in temporary storage, and high-level waste from VVER-440 after reprocessing. And, of course, storage of spent nuclear fuel is a business. But if Rosatom is doing this, is that good, and when others are bad? And nuclear scientists, by the way, are very offended when ISF is called a "burial ground".
      1. alien
        alien 17 December 2021 18: 03
        +2
        And what, in fact, is "disgusting" if the country, which has 4 nuclear power plants, has built its own central storage facility?



        https://bankwatch.org/project/zombie-reactors-in-ukraine#lifetimes
        1. Ashes of Claes
          Ashes of Claes 17 December 2021 18: 45
          -7
          Ah, bankwatch .... well, yes, yes. Eco-workers. When they scold Russia, they are probably scoundrels and liars. And everything about Ukraine, of course, is fair. Do you seriously believe in the non-partisanship and objectivity of this office?
    2. Andrei Nikolaevich
      Andrei Nikolaevich 17 December 2021 19: 32
      +1
      I'm not special in storing nuclear waste. But 15 km from the Belarusian border is not very pleasant.
    3. atalef
      atalef 17 December 2021 20: 32
      -2
      Quote: Alien
      CSFSF is located 13 kilometers from the border with Belarus and 150 kilometers from Russia

      and that Chernobyl can be moved?
      Quote: Alien
      The first batch of 30 containers of spent NUCLEAR fuel arrived at Chernobyl from the Rivne NPP on November 25 this year

      well, okay, they bury their fuel
      Quote: Alien
      As a result, the Americans slipped the "radioactive pig" to Ukraine, Belarus and Russia

      Seriously ? And I thought the Chernobyl nuclear power plant was built by the decision of the Central Committee of the CPSU.
      Quote: Alien
      The trick is that Ukraine has 15 nuclear reactors built during the Soviet era. 12 were supposed to be closed by 2020. This means that in 5-10 years, not Ukrainian nuclear waste, but European nuclear waste will be deposited in the CSFSF.

      well, when they add, then say, but for now
      A new cargo with hundreds of tons of nuclear waste was sent from Germany to Russia. On June 22, a freight train with 600 tons of radioactive waste departed for Russia from the Urenco uranium enrichment plant in Gronau, Germany, the environmental public organization Ekozashchita said on Tuesday, June 23.

      12 wagons with wastes generated during uranium enrichment during the production of fuel for nuclear power plants were sent to the Ural Electrochemical Plant in Novouralsk in the Sverdlovsk Region. It is not specified when exactly the train will arrive in Russia. According to environmentalists, some of the containers with waste were sent by trucks to Amsterdam. There they will be loaded onto the ship "Mikhail Dudin", which will arrive at the port of Ust-Luga near St. Petersburg in early July.

      Over three thousand tons of waste

      Since the beginning of 2020, according to Ekozashchita estimates, over 3000 tons of nuclear waste have already been delivered to Russia. The last shipment with 600 tons of waste arrived from Germany on 15 June. Environmentalists fear that the transportation of nuclear waste to Russia will continue in the coming years, since the validity of the permit to export uranium waste to Russia through the ports of the Netherlands has been extended until 2023. In addition to Urenco, the Orano facility in France has also received a permit.

      The supply of uranium waste from Germany to Russia resumed in 2019 after a ten-year hiatus. The environmental organization Greenpeace reported that in 2019-2022 Urenco plans to export 12 thousand tons of nuclear waste to Russia.

      will you comment?
      1. Ashes of Claes
        Ashes of Claes 17 December 2021 21: 27
        -2
        Quote: atalef
        will you comment?

        will not comment.
        To be honest, I'm sick of the double standards, both ours and Western ones.
        It is enough to inject manure from an eco-friendly site in the spirit of "Ukraine is building a nuclear repository for European radioactive mud !!!" - everything, enough to arouse chlophobes. However, they are in constant exaltation. They hate Greta and the whole green group, but when necessary, they pull the right information from their mezzanines. Lithuanians do not like the Belarusian nuclear power plant 30 km from the border - "let them shut up, nafig, the State Department's bedding, we build wherever we want!" But they WANT 20 km from the border with the Republic of Bashkortostan - that's all, "this is unacceptable! Ukrainians are preparing a catastrophe!" Russia brought Ukrainian waste to itself for $ 200 million a year - this is normal, business, it is safe! Ukraine is building its own HOYAT - the same stench "this is unacceptable! Ukrainians are preparing a catastrophe!"
        Well, by God - what's in their heads?
      2. alien
        alien 17 December 2021 21: 47
        +5
        Already commented:

        Ukraine will suit Europe with a radioactive "Kuz'kina mother"
        “The third“ grand opening ”of this facility (CSFSF) is scheduled for the day of the power engineer on December 22 of this year.
        <...> those who have seen the object note that the concrete pavement at the storage site for containers with spent nuclear fuel has already cracked. And these are not all safety and quality issues.
        <>
        In April 1986, Ukrainian specialists already "arranged" Chernobyl, deciding, in the course of a generally simple experiment on generator run-out, to turn off all safety systems at the 4th power unit. For the current Ukrainian government, the "security system" is disabled in the head itself. "
        https://zvezdaweekly.ru/news/2021117114-psbxn.html

        "The management of" Energoatom "hired <...> new contractors - BC" KBR "and NESTRA Concern (according to the tender procedure), which for 7 months completed the construction of the CSFSF.

        The main activities of the KB "KBR": design of objects, monolithic works, installation of facades and engineering networks, reconstruction of any complexity, major repairs, construction of apartment buildings. Objects of the company: State Tax Service of Ukraine (STS), Heart Institute of the Ministry of Health of Ukraine, Kiev zoo <...> and others. "

        https://biz.liga.net/all/all/press-release/v-ukraine-otkroyut-pervoe-tsentralizovannoe-hranilische-otrabotannogo-yadernogo-topliva
      3. Uncle Vanya Susanin
        Uncle Vanya Susanin 19 December 2021 19: 52
        +2
        ... A new cargo with hundreds of tons of nuclear waste was sent from Germany to Russia. On June 22, a freight train with 600 tons of radioactive waste departed for Russia from the Urenco uranium enrichment plant in Gronau, Germany, the environmental public organization Ekozashchita said on Tuesday, June 23.

        12 wagons with wastes generated during uranium enrichment during the production of fuel for nuclear power plants were sent to the Ural Electrochemical Plant in Novouralsk in the Sverdlovsk Region. It is not specified when exactly the train will arrive in Russia. According to environmentalists, some of the containers with waste were sent by trucks to Amsterdam. There they will be loaded onto the ship "Mikhail Dudin", which will arrive at the port of Ust-Luga near St. Petersburg in early July.

        Over three thousand tons of waste

        Since the beginning of 2020, according to Ekozashchita estimates, over 3000 tons of nuclear waste have already been delivered to Russia. The last shipment with 600 tons of waste arrived from Germany on 15 June. Environmentalists fear that the transportation of nuclear waste to Russia will continue in the coming years, since the validity of the permit to export uranium waste to Russia through the ports of the Netherlands has been extended until 2023. In addition to Urenco, the Orano facility in France has also received a permit.

        The supply of uranium waste from Germany to Russia resumed in 2019 after a ten-year hiatus. The environmental organization Greenpeace reported that in 2019-2022 Urenco plans to export 12 thousand tons of nuclear waste to Russia.

        will you comment?

        In Europe, this is waste, and in Russia, raw materials for processing, i.e. it is necessary to understand something else!
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 21 December 2021 21: 09
          +1
          To understand this, one must have an education.
          Or, at least, outlook. wink
          1. Uncle Vanya Susanin
            Uncle Vanya Susanin 22 December 2021 02: 31
            +1
            Education? Well, who needs it, YouTube videos are our everything, I watched and became an expert on all issues yes
  18. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 17 December 2021 17: 03
    +2
    go ... don's website wrote differently "Every third Ukrainian is ready to defend his settlement with weapons in his hands in the event of an attack by Russian troops
    Read more here: https://gordonua.com/news/war/kazhdyy-tretiy-ukrainec-gotov-s-oruzhiem-v-rukah-zashchishchat-svoy-naselennyy-punkt-v-sluchae-napadeniya-rossiyskih-voysk- opros-1586749.html "
    although I divided this third into at least 2 more, it's like show-offs are chasing in front of the camera
  19. Yaro Polk
    Yaro Polk 17 December 2021 17: 12
    +2
    All the Rada should be sent there to fight, and there Solntsepek will do his job.
    1. paul3390
      paul3390 17 December 2021 17: 29
      +1
      Let's make it easier? Schweik also suggested. Nekhay their Rada and our Duma will go out into the open field, take off their jackets, and - a scuffle wall to wall. Whoever overcomes - the country won .. All the same, from these deputies one harm, and so it will come out cheaper, and the people will have fun ..
      1. Yaro Polk
        Yaro Polk 17 December 2021 20: 47
        -1
        I am satisfied with our Duma, at least there are no stinking Bandera supporters there.
  20. Siberian-1
    Siberian-1 17 December 2021 17: 17
    0
    Having received a GOOD splash, already from the first hours, the remaining third, having greased their skis, will rush to look for a place in Poland, Canada, Germany .... There will be few who want to fight in the forests, as it was in 1945-1947. And it will be as easy as shelling pears to find hiding with thermal imagers from drones. Special units don't even need to go there.
  21. Suomynona
    Suomynona 17 December 2021 17: 21
    +4
    These 2/3 are reasonable people. One life, you should not lose it for the sake of someone's games
    1. Andrei Nikolaevich
      Andrei Nikolaevich 17 December 2021 19: 36
      +2
      2/3 - reasonable people, you have changed it correctly. But "reasonable people" with a Ukrainian mentality. According to the principle "wherever you kiss, everywhere ..." I translate: no matter how much you give, everything is not enough. Or "everyone is to blame, but not us."
  22. Siberian-1
    Siberian-1 17 December 2021 17: 24
    +2
    Quote: Alien
    Such a nuclear burial ground in Europe ...

    You have to pay something for joining the EU. There is no dough, cooperation in mechanical engineering is absurd, since no one needs another competitor, in countries with excess production, divided by quotas, rubbish in the eye will be superfluous. Today, stuck to the EU like a festering abscess, ukrozhopiya uses the permitted supply, according to quotas already in April.
    1. alien
      alien 17 December 2021 17: 51
      +3
      You have to pay something for joining the EU.

      MARCH 6, 2006, TARAS CUZIO Professor at George Washington University, former head of the NATO Information and Documentation Center in Kiev, on the prospects of the Government of Ukraine and NATO:
      "Insofar as "bait"EU membership was crucial in encouraging post-Soviet countries to accept painful and unpopular reforms, the absence of such"bait"could negatively affect reforms in Ukraine."
      https://www.pravda.com.ua/rus/articles/2006/03/6/4397510/

      Those. already in 2006, the Americans made no secret that the EU was a decoy to drag Ukraine into NATO.
  23. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 17 December 2021 17: 33
    +1
    Who will ask them then, darlings))) This is the whole charm of totalitarianism - they will drive, force, justify)
    1. Normal ok
      Normal ok 18 December 2021 01: 34
      0
      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      Who will ask them then, darlings))) This is the whole charm of totalitarianism - they will drive, force, justify)

      About totalitarianism. more details please. This, by any chance, is not about eternally zeroed?
      1. Knell wardenheart
        Knell wardenheart 18 December 2021 02: 10
        +2
        "Totalitarianism (from Lat. Totalis" whole, whole, full "← totalitas" wholeness, fullness ") is a political regime that implies absolute (total) control of the state over all aspects of public and private life."
        Strictly speaking, when the state talks to people in their hearts and minds, tells them what language to speak, which sites to visit and which not, which parties to be and which not - this is always totalitarianism. It doesn't matter what kind of flag he smears and what kind of hymns there will be - a person in such a construction is always meat, impersonal, forced, forced to correspond to the momentary conjuncture. This is always an unhealthy phenomenon, which, however, again always disguises itself as something full of potency and primordial meaning. Of course, there can be no absolute control, but the apologists of totalitarianism always try to get as close as possible to this in their activities. This gives them away, whoever they pretend to be.
        1. Normal ok
          Normal ok 18 December 2021 02: 16
          +3
          Quote: Knell Wardenheart
          "Totalitarianism (from Lat. Totalis" whole, whole, full "← totalitas" wholeness, fullness ") is a political regime that implies absolute (total) control of the state over all aspects of public and private life."
          Strictly speaking, when the state talks to people in their hearts and minds, tells them what language to speak, which sites to visit and which not, which parties to be and which not - this is always totalitarianism. It doesn't matter what kind of flag he smears and what kind of hymns there will be - a person in such a construction is always meat, impersonal, forced, forced to correspond to the momentary conjuncture. This is always an unhealthy phenomenon, which, however, again always disguises itself as something full of potency and primordial meaning. Of course, there can be no absolute control, but the apologists of totalitarianism always try to get as close as possible to this in their activities. This gives them away, whoever they pretend to be.

          In other words, you called the modern reality, in a certain "separately taken country"))
  24. Palmyra
    Palmyra 17 December 2021 17: 53
    +1
    Lies, 99% will not work. All for different reasons.
  25. Dizel200
    Dizel200 17 December 2021 17: 53
    -1
    This will not work. Your leadership said that the Russians will attack after NG. Be kind enough to come to war wassat laughing
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 17 December 2021 18: 42
      +1
      Be sure, January 1 from 3 to 5 in the morning, see do not get drunk. laughing
  26. rocket757
    rocket757 17 December 2021 17: 55
    +1
    But neither the Russians nor the Ukrainians want to fight each other.
    ... Everything can happen "by accident" .... one thing is clear, it will not last long.
  27. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 17 December 2021 18: 20
    +1
    The results of a poll in Ukraine: more than two-thirds of Ukrainians will not go to war with Russia if it starts
    belay Kindergarten, pants with straps. Will they be asked? fool These are the results of the poll: "I don't want to". And when on ... with a stirrer, it's completely different ... request
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 17 December 2021 18: 40
      -1
      Well, a stirrer can be used for your stupid head, especially if you have the support of Russia. Or do you think there will be time for mobilization? I strongly doubt that there will be traffic jams from the side of Kiev in the western direction as in Moscow during rush hour. wassat
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 17 December 2021 19: 04
        0
        Quote: Ros 56
        Or do you think there will be time for mobilization? I strongly doubt that there will be traffic jams from the side of Kiev in the western direction as in Moscow during rush hour.

        Mobilization, mobilization strife. Bandera will be missed, "who did not hide, it is his own fault" and in the trench, as it was in front of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and a detachment from Bandera. The mess will last for several days .. recourse
  28. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 17 December 2021 18: 30
    -2
    There is a lie, a blatant lie and banderostatistics))) 1 - 2% will defend the banderland, the rest will either run away or wait for the result. Fortunately, you won't have to wait long))))
  29. Ros 56
    Ros 56 17 December 2021 18: 35
    0
    Against this background, a completely extravagant idea appeared that "Kiev and Moscow may ultimately enter into an agreement, the result of which will be a total weakening of Europe."

    Well, this is unlikely. We will never find a common language with the banderlog, only to the tribunal.
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  31. ILIA
    ILIA 17 December 2021 19: 41
    +1
    Why would Russia attack ..? it itself ...
  32. SKIF555
    SKIF555 17 December 2021 20: 13
    +1
    ... In the Bundes, ask more.
  33. Nikolay1987
    Nikolay1987 17 December 2021 20: 23
    +2
    Look, there are still healthy people in Ukraine. I think that we will have no less%.
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  35. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 17 December 2021 22: 58
    0
    More than two-thirds of Ukrainians will not go to war with Russia if one starts

    ***
    Mykola is not in the army, he is not going to be in the army ...
    ***
  36. ale
    ale 18 December 2021 00: 05
    +1
    Nonsense
  37. Normal ok
    Normal ok 18 December 2021 01: 31
    0
    This is what it means to present the material ... In the original, the accents are different: more than half are ready to fight back. 33,3 with weapons, and 22 as in Chechnya - through "peaceful actions" of disobedience. Total 55,5.
  38. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 18 December 2021 04: 58
    +1
    Relaxed internet folk !!! Ask the DPR and LPR militias if they want to fight !? War is a problem - load 200 is no longer the Internet.
  39. Nikolay Sayenko
    Nikolay Sayenko 18 December 2021 07: 44
    -1
    this year, the record-dumped 600 and did not return ... so the Yatsenyuk and Poroshenko, led by Zelensky, will have to fight. Well, the Avakovs and Turchinovs will help there laughing
  40. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 18 December 2021 14: 11
    -1
    When will it finally fall apart? Tired of worse bitter radish. Give the West to the Poles, Transcarpathia to Hungarians and Czechs, and another piece of Romanians. And close this issue forever.
  41. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 18 December 2021 14: 12
    0
    Quote: Nikolay Sayenko
    this year, the record-dumped 600 and did not return ... so the Yatsenyuk and Poroshenko, led by Zelensky, will have to fight. Well, the Avakovs and Turchinovs will help there laughing

    Yaytsenyuk stole money and left for the States. He feels good there ...
  42. lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 19 December 2021 00: 12
    +1
    Quote: Niko
    Of the 33 percent of those who are ready to fight, 80 are over 75 years old?

    these are young people from the Natsik, not old people
  43. www3
    www3 19 December 2021 00: 30
    +2
    Quote: Barberry25
    and there were battles? in Kurdistan?


    so something in Kurdistan is not particularly affected by the Americans)
  44. Protos
    Protos 19 December 2021 14: 10
    +1
    Another third was afraid to answer correctly!
    There, dissenters and Russian-speaking Ukrainian Nazis are poisoning like Jews in the Reich of 1934!
  45. Kudinov Andrey
    Kudinov Andrey 19 December 2021 23: 06
    0
    Since the beginning of 2020, according to Ekozashchita estimates, over 3000 tons of nuclear waste have already been delivered to Russia. The last shipment with 600 tons of waste arrived from Germany on 15 June. Environmentalists fear that the transportation of nuclear waste to Russia will continue in the coming years, since the validity of the permit to export uranium waste to Russia through the ports of the Netherlands has been extended until 2023. In addition to Urenco, the Orano facility in France has also received a permit.

    The supply of uranium waste from Germany to Russia resumed in 2019 after a ten-year hiatus. The environmental organization Greenpeace reported that in 2019-2022 Urenco plans to export 12 thousand tons of nuclear waste to Russia.
    will you comment?

    Rosatom has begun construction of the BREST-OD-300 waste-free reactor. “The new reactor with lead coolant and new mixed nitride uranium-plutonium fuel, optimal for fast reactors, will have an installed capacity of 300 MW. It will become part of the most important facility for the entire world nuclear industry - the Experimental Demonstration Power Complex (ODEC). This cluster of nuclear technologies of the future includes three interconnected objects that have no analogues in the world: a module for the production (fabrication / refurbishment) of uranium-plutonium nuclear fuel; power unit BREST-OD-300; as well as a module for the reprocessing of irradiated fuel. Thus, for the first time in world practice, a nuclear power plant with a fast reactor and an on-site closed nuclear fuel cycle will be built on the same site. After reprocessing, the irradiated fuel will be sent for refabrication (that is, the re-production of fresh fuel) - thus this system will gradually become practically autonomous and independent of external energy supplies, "Rosatom said in a statement.
    More details: https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2021/06/08/rosatom-nachal-stroit-pervyy-v-mire-atomnyy-energoblok-s-bezothodnym-ciklom
  46. likas
    likas 20 December 2021 12: 42
    0
    Here, too, about 30% do not want to go to war for the capitalist happiness of our country. Well, who will ask them then? With them and with us? They will order and go ...