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Head of the Federal Grid Agency of Germany: There will be no decisions on Nord Stream 2 in the first half of 2022

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The delayed certification of Nord Stream 2 will continue only after the German Federal Network Agency (BNA) has received all the necessary documents and is unlikely to be completed in the first half of next year. The Western press writes about this with reference to the statement of the head of the BNA.


Western media drew attention to the words of the head of the German regulator Jochen Homann, who said that the certification procedure for Nord Stream 2 will continue only after all the necessary documents have been provided. According to him, BNA currently does not have any documents, and given that after the regulator, the European Commission will still consider the issue of certification, there will be no decision on the gas pipeline from the first half of 2022.

Meanwhile, Nord Stream 2 AG, which is the operator of the gas pipeline, announced that it was working to create a subsidiary in Germany, which is necessary for the continuation of certification, but did not provide any details. The press service of the company said that they are taking all the necessary steps for this, but they refused to prepare the possible terms, assuring that additional measures would be announced additionally.

Meanwhile, the situation with the gas filling of European UGS facilities is quite serious. As of today, 59% remain in German gas storage facilities. As the head of the Association of Operators Initiative Erdgasspeicher, Sebastian Bleschke, said, given that winter has just begun and it is not known what it will be, this is a very low level.

As of December 36, according to Gazprom, European UGS facilities were empty by about a quarter, and gas consumption exceeded previous years. In some countries, gas is back to back, the most deplorable situation is in Ukraine - no more than XNUMX% of gas remains in gas storage facilities.
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  1. Finches
    Finches 16 December 2021 15: 34
    +32
    You can generally start cutting it for scrap, because because of your idiotic policy, due to a sharp increase in gas prices, Russia has already repulsed the costs of its construction! And it is unlikely to go into minus laughing Since a rusty Ukrainian pipe without modernization will soon turn into real dust by itself, the price of gas will not decrease!
    1. SKVichyakow
      SKVichyakow 16 December 2021 15: 46
      +13
      Quote: Finches
      You can generally start cutting it for scrap, because because of your idiotic policy, due to the sharp increase in gas prices, Russia has already repulsed the cost of its construction! And the mine is unlikely to leave laughing Since a rusty Ukrainian pipe without modernization will soon turn into real dust by itself, the price of gas will not decrease!

      These are the pipes of Gazprom, not Germany. And the later they are accepted, the better for Gazprom, the price of gas that will go through them will be higher. And now he will earn much more. That's right, "beat your own so that others are afraid."
      1. Orange bigg
        Orange bigg 16 December 2021 15: 49
        +13
        Head of the Federal Grid Agency of Germany: There will be no decisions on Nord Stream 2 in the first half of 2022

        If it won't, it won't. Let them heat with wood.
        1. expert
          expert 16 December 2021 22: 29
          +2
          Looking at the situation from the inside, from Frankfurt am Main, I can inform everyone about the absolute calm in the media in the country on this topic. Honestly, I don't understand anything ...
          The prices for the communal apartment, at least what I pay, have practically not changed. Yes, the prices for food and building materials have gone up a lot. Petrol and diesel fuel costs up to € 1,85. But in general, everything is quiet.
          And I heat the fireplace regularly with wood. Very cozy. Naturally you need to buy, there are no interruptions.
          Maybe we all do not know something?
          1. Sergey Kulikov_3
            Sergey Kulikov_3 17 December 2021 02: 34
            +3
            And what is there to understand then, Germany has a long-term contract and it also buys surplus gas on the spot market. Annalena works to increase prices for consumers without long-term contracts, and there are enough of them. I think that the expulsion of Russian diplomats was made to cover up this combination. Nothing personal, just business :)
            1. expert
              expert 17 December 2021 10: 54
              +1
              Yes, maybe everything looks exactly like this ...
              But, interestingly, above I just briefly described the current situation as an ordinary citizen of the country. Without any assessments and searches for those guilty of anything.
              Slapped "minus" ...
              1. Vladimir Mashkov
                Vladimir Mashkov 19 December 2021 15: 46
                0
                In vain, oh, in vain the German government slows down the certification of the SP-2 to please the State Department, local and Eastern European Russophobes! The rulers are playing with fire, waiting for the roasted rooster to start not pecking, but hammering in the ass! However, if the winter is soft European, then, perhaps, it will carry ... The German game of "Russian roulette"! laughing

                And Gazprom will wait. yes He is still satisfied with the high euro prices for gas and the process of depreciation of the construction of the SP-2. lol Although many Russians are surprised ... the utmost stupidity and complaisance of the German government.

                As for your minuses (there are several of them), then, I suppose, they were given to you for crafty "misunderstanding", "invisibility" and "ignorance". lol hi
                1. expert
                  expert 19 December 2021 15: 56
                  0
                  Thanks for the reply.
                  If you look at my previous comments on similar topics, then I think you will be able to adequately appreciate my "lack of understanding, ignorance and ignorance".
                  Best regards
                  Eugen renk
        2. isv000
          isv000 17 December 2021 13: 56
          -2
          Quote: OrangeBigg
          If it won't, it won't. Let them heat with wood.

          As Putin said over the firewood - this is also for us ... laughing
          1. Reserve buildbat
            Reserve buildbat 19 December 2021 20: 25
            -1
            Not to us anymore))) The export of round timber was prohibited. laughing
            1. isv000
              isv000 19 December 2021 20: 55
              0
              Quote: Stroibat stock
              Not to us anymore))) The export of round timber was prohibited.

              It is said in the scripture: for the wood! and not behind the round timber. stop For fuel briquettes or chopped logs - deeply processed products! fool
              1. Reserve buildbat
                Reserve buildbat 20 December 2021 09: 59
                -1
                Fuel briquettes - yes, a processed product. But chopped logs do not count for this
      2. Orange bigg
        Orange bigg 16 December 2021 15: 50
        -2
        Head of the Federal Grid Agency of Germany: There will be no decisions on Nord Stream 2 in the first half of 2022

        If it won't, it won't. Let them heat with wood.
        1. Vladimir61
          Vladimir61 16 December 2021 16: 08
          +5
          Quote: OrangeBigg
          If it won't, it won't. Let them heat with wood.

          The further into the forest, the more gas will cost ... We apparently have enough of those gas prices that are now to cover their part of the construction costs, and let them think for themselves.
          1. Alex777
            Alex777 16 December 2021 19: 26
            +3
            Quote: Vladimir61
            The further into the forest, the more gas will cost ...

            Exactly. Why it doesn't bother them - I can't understand.
            The lag between the cost of pipeline gas and liquefied gas on the spot will soon end. If it's not over already.
            Maybe that's why they are in no hurry? Almost no one will be able to buy for 1400. Even if their UGS facilities are empty ...
            And when the underground storage facilities are empty, a very interesting period in the life of the EU will begin.
      3. Finches
        Finches 16 December 2021 15: 52
        +3
        Then Gazprom can make an attraction at the other end! For a couple of euros, let the Germans look into the pipe, shout into it - listen to the echo, for the Zorobitans working in Germany, you can even be allowed to fart into it ...! laughing
    2. 210ox
      210ox 16 December 2021 15: 47
      +4
      Meanwhile, the weather in Warsaw, for example, in a week goes into a deep minus.
    3. Thrifty
      Thrifty 16 December 2021 16: 10
      +3
      If only a couple of years it would not be certified, and we will receive 800 percent of net profit. wassat
    4. midivan
      midivan 16 December 2021 16: 57
      +5
      Quote: Finches
      You can generally start cutting it for scrap, because because of your idiotic policy, due to the sharp increase in gas prices, Russia has already repulsed the cost of its construction!

      Didn't they listen to Putin? For us, the prices are the same, about 400, but for a thousand the price is not "for us" in the pocket, but for European speculators. sad
      1. Stepan S
        Stepan S 16 December 2021 17: 06
        +4
        For us, the prices are the same, about 400, but for a thousand the price is not "for us" in the pocket, but for European speculators.

        The price for long-term contracts grows with a lag of 6 months. 70% of the price is the price of gas on the European spot market and 30% is the price of oil. So next year prices will be even higher for long-term contracts.
        1. midivan
          midivan 16 December 2021 17: 52
          +3
          Didn't know that. But it was about the fact that they had already paid for the pipe ...
          Russia has already recaptured the costs of its construction!
    5. Soldatov V.
      Soldatov V. 16 December 2021 17: 12
      -1
      Sawing for scrap metal is certainly not worth it - the pipes are new, but they should be transferred to Russia for the gasification of their country, or at least for the Power of Siberia. Mongols can buy back to lay a pipeline through their territory. Pakistan is in trouble with the gas pipelines with our participation. yes By the way, this will probably be the first experience in the world on the transfer of the pipeline. soldier
    6. Egoza
      Egoza 16 December 2021 17: 30
      +4
      Quote: Finches
      Since a rusty Ukrainian pipe without modernization will soon turn into real dust by itself, the price of gas will not decrease!

      This is how the Svidomo pipe will collapse, so all the documents will be found in the morning, and they will be certified by the evening! )))
  2. LiSiCyn
    LiSiCyn 16 December 2021 15: 36
    +11
    Dear friends, here the French press writes that the new government of Germany is trying to slow down the launch of Nord Stream 2 on the brakes, but we have an alternatively gifted version from the field of unprovable conspiracy theories.

    The second image shows imports of natural gas to Germany over the last twenty years, until 2020.

    The third image shows the export of natural gas from Germany for about the same period, also up to 2020.

    If we calculated the schedules correctly, then as of 2020 Germany imported about 155 million cubic meters and exported about 50 million cubic meters of natural gas per year, we do not think that the situation has changed a lot now. But the purchase is made under long-term contracts (something like $ 235 per thousand cubic meters), and the sale is already under spot contracts (there are now $ 1500 per thousand cubic meters). If it is really so, we take off our hats to the FRG and send fiery winter greetings to its European buyers. This is just an exemplary just business in this case.

    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 16 December 2021 15: 47
      +8
      I guessed that the wild gas prices in Europe were beneficial to the Germans. Yes, you can generally not launch SP-2 until the age of 23. Revenues have already recaptured costs many times over, only European partners are the losers (and even then not all of them) ...
    2. Kurare
      Kurare 16 December 2021 15: 59
      +15
      Quote: LiSiCyn
      If it is really so, we take off our hats to the FRG and send fiery winter greetings to its European buyers.

      As VVP said, it is necessary to take off the FRG's hat in front of the former Chancellor G. Schroeder. It was with him that the FRG entered into a long-term agreement from which the European Commission is terribly jarring.
    3. businessv
      businessv 16 December 2021 17: 03
      +4
      Quote: LiSiCyn
      If we counted the schedules correctly, then as of 2020 Germany imported about 155 million cubic meters and exported about 50 million cubic meters of natural gas per year.
      Thanks for the info, very interesting! In short, you don't have to worry about the Germans,
      they are all tip-top, according to the published charts! wink
      1. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn 16 December 2021 17: 14
        +1
        Quote: businessv
        Thanks for the info, very interesting! In short, you don't have to worry about the Germans.

        The Germans are pragmatists, unlike many other countries. I would not be surprised if they made every effort to create a "gas crisis". Naturally in agreement with the Kremlin.
        1. Papazen
          Papazen 16 December 2021 21: 17
          0
          Yeah, the Germans are pragmatists. 100% of the shares of the German company Wintershall are owned by Gazprom. In several companies, Gazprom owns 50% each, now I don't remember exactly who, see Martsinkevich on Yutruba. Everything is cleverly organized there. But everything is according to European rules, which is what they wanted.
          1. NKT
            NKT 17 December 2021 08: 44
            +2
            Wintershall Dea is owned by BASF and LetterOne. You are confusing WINGAS and Wintershall Dea, the latter sold its stake (50%) to Gazprom in 2015.
            1. Papazen
              Papazen 17 December 2021 19: 11
              0
              Perhaps you are more familiar with the topic, I will not argue. But your comment does not contradict the fact that Gazprom has some profit from sales already at spot European prices.
              1. NKT
                NKT 18 December 2021 09: 14
                0
                This is a gas distribution company, in Germany it has about 18% of the market, and operates in other European countries. It has nothing to do with SP2 and the spot market.
    4. Brturin
      Brturin 16 December 2021 17: 10
      +1
      Quote: LiSiCyn
      If it is really so, we take off our hat to the FRG and send a fiery winter greetings to its European buyers.

      but no one canceled the ricochet ... in September
      In general, inflation in Germany in September reached its highest rate in 28 years - 4,1% in annual terms. More detailed statistics for individual price groups reveals much more impressive dynamics. For example, energy prices rose by 14,3%, while selling prices in wholesale trade increased by 13,2% over the year. Even more alarming signals come from the real sector of the German economy. Back in mid-September, the chemical giant BASF warned that it could completely neutralize the impact of record electricity prices, despite the fact that it provides 80% of its needs on its own. Following this, the concern announced a reduction in the production of ammonia - the most important raw material for mineral fertilizers - at its factories in Antwerp, Belgium and Ludwigshafen, Germany, due to high gas prices. The Ludwigshafen facility - the world's largest chemical production complex - consumes 6 terawatt-hours of electricity per year, which is the equivalent of 3,5 million barrels of oil. A decrease in margins due to rising energy prices, despite a strategy to hedge risks, was also reported by Hamburg-based Aurubis AG, Europe's largest copper producer. In parallel, in Germany, as in other European countries, the bankruptcy of energy companies is unfolding. A few days ago, the Otima AG enterprise from the city of Neuenhagen near Berlin announced the termination of the supply of electricity and gas to consumers https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2021/10/19/lebed-shchuka-i-rak-nemeckoy-politiki-srastetsya -li-v-germanii-svetofornaya-koaliciya

      And as for "hello to her European buyers", here, too, someone will get a good purchase - there is a ruin of small suppliers throughout Europe, and clients are selected, there is a redistribution under this "noise ... as an example the Czech Republic ...
      Microenergy is the fifth energy supplier to announce that it will cease operations from mid-October 2021. After Bohemia Energy, whose customers were about 900 Czech residents, the companies Kolibřík energie (000 customers), A-PLUS Energie (28 points of consumption) and Ray Energy (about 000 customers) left the market. In each case, the main reason was the rise in EU energy prices.
      https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2021/12/15/v-chehii-prodolzhayut-razoryatsya-postavshchiki-elektrichestva-i-gaza
      1. Motorist
        Motorist 16 December 2021 20: 20
        +1
        Quote: BrTurin
        In general, inflation in Germany in September reached its highest rate in 28 years - 4,1% in annual terms.

        Take more: from November to November already 5,2%, over the past 30 years it was higher only in 1992 (5,8%).

        https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/1045/umfrage/inflationsrate-in-deutschland-veraenderung-des-verbraucherpreisindexes-zum-vorjahresmonat/
  3. Bear
    Bear 16 December 2021 15: 38
    +9
    You can write anything and anywhere, for example, on a fence, but it is necessary to warm up in winter, and to produce nitrogen fertilizers with polymers too. Politics is politics, but business is business. The money was invested not only by Gazprom, but also by the Germans.
    1. bar
      bar 16 December 2021 15: 51
      -2
      Quote: Orso
      The money was invested not only by Gazprom, but also by the Germans.

      Gazprom, I think, has already won back its gas prices. And they are still going to fall, which means that everything will continue to be covered in chocolate. Gazprom has a lot to do with European gas surpluses even without Europe.
      As for the Germans who invested, this is the business of the Germans themselves. If they themselves stepped on a causal place, let them themselves tread on it, what a sorrow for us.
    2. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 16 December 2021 15: 53
      0
      Quote: Orso
      You can write anything and anywhere, for example, on a fence, but it is necessary to warm up in winter

      As Putin recalled an old tale
      Freeze, freeze wolf tail ...
      And this, they say, in central Europe there was no subzero temperature yet.

      To hell with them. If they do not want to pay 400 for gas, they will pay 1300 for gas. For economic Germans, this is a bullet in the head. And on the Island, except for Boris Jonesov, hardly anyone will tolerate this for a long time. True, something tells me that Europe will erase its teeth to the roots, creaking them, but it will pay. America will bend her over her knee, as usual ...
      1. Bolt cutter
        Bolt cutter 16 December 2021 17: 31
        0
        on the Island, except for Boris Jonesov, hardly anyone will tolerate this for a long time.
        Only 5% of gas in Britain is purchased from Russia.
        1. Dima68
          Dima68 16 December 2021 17: 51
          +1
          This is true, only spot prices affect everyone, including Norwegian and Dutch gas.
          1. Bolt cutter
            Bolt cutter 16 December 2021 17: 53
            -2
            By the decision of the price regulator (a government agency that limits the prices of suppliers), the average annual bill for gas light in Britain has grown by about 140 pounds per year. No horror.
            1. Liam
              Liam 16 December 2021 18: 19
              0
              And how much did they drop last year?
              1. Bolt cutter
                Bolt cutter 16 December 2021 18: 22
                -2
                Compared to what belay ?
                1. Liam
                  Liam 16 December 2021 18: 24
                  0
                  With the past years.
                  1. Bolt cutter
                    Bolt cutter 16 December 2021 18: 27
                    -2
                    They didn’t seem to fall. It's just that this year the regulator raised the maximum possible price that suppliers can charge. Statistically, this will be reflected in about the notorious 140 per year. And so it depends on who consumes how much.
                    1. Liam
                      Liam 16 December 2021 18: 41
                      -2
                      It can't be. You should have the same picture more or less

                      1. Bolt cutter
                        Bolt cutter 16 December 2021 18: 46
                        -1
                        Different companies had different offers (and they still do), but on average - the bill for a 2-room apartment per month is like £ 150. I repeat, it depends on consumption. OFCOM sets the maximum prices - so that they are not blown up to the skies. Until they take off.
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        2. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 17 December 2021 01: 55
          +1
          Quote: Bolt Cutter
          on the Island, except for Boris Jonesov, hardly anyone will tolerate this for a long time.
          Only 5% of gas in Britain is purchased from Russia.

          Especially. Happiness to them. Flag in hand. They can live without us. And we are all the more so without them. If the "Englishwoman" for the previous 400 years had forgotten about Russia and, as a result, "did not crap" - oh, how differently the history of Russia and the world would have gone ...
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  5. astronom1973n
    astronom1973n 16 December 2021 15: 39
    +4
    It is important for us to keep our firm line and not yield in anything. Do not succumb to various attacks of Western countries. The one who is stronger will win ...
  6. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 16 December 2021 15: 45
    +2
    You give the price of gas at $ 2000. What a blow to Ukraine. On the reverse, they came up with good indicators in filling their UGS facilities. But then the EU played a game with them on trust. The reverse is not really expensive now. Ukraine should have bought gas in the summer, but they stop JV 2 every day, it would be great to survive the winter if it were possible to pay for the reverse. Everyone increased supplies under old contracts, even the Poles through Ukraine .. They will not freeze, but for Ukraine gas will be at a European special price.
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 16 December 2021 15: 59
      -1
      Quote: tralflot1832
      it would be great to survive the winter if it was possible to pay reverse

      There was nothing good in the SP-2 for Ukraine, and it is not. Previously, there was gas sampling at the border, there was a virtual "reverse", the money for the "reverse" was deposited WHEREVER. And with SP-2, you will have to pay real money for a real reverse. Either they will calm down WHERE and they will no longer steal (from the realm of fantasy), or the price of gas will rise on the price of that very real reverse.

      And for so many years telling Maysa about the reverse is one thing. And to try, finally, to actually launch it is completely different.
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 16 December 2021 16: 35
        +3
        Let's wait a bit and see everything.
  7. Graz
    Graz 16 December 2021 15: 46
    -1
    Well, the Germans took the path of confrontation, so they must be punished. I hope our leaders have the courage
    1. Pandiurin
      Pandiurin 16 December 2021 16: 11
      0
      Quote: Graz
      Well, the Germans took the path of confrontation, so they must be punished. I hope our leaders have the courage


      Why punish them?
      Now the situation has led to the fact that any action or statement that can be interpreted as information about the delay in pumping gas through SP2 literally immediately leads to an increase in gas prices in the EU.

      A German official blurted out or said something in an interview, they immediately hit him in the head with a club (in the form of a price increase).

      Now the Germans have undergone a change of government. And the level of prices for gas and electricity is the area of ​​responsibility of the new chancellor. If Scholz does not want disgruntled voters, then he will have to do three things:
      1. Forbid to tryndet officials
      2. Make statements that SP2 two will try to put into operation as soon as possible (to himself and to his subordinates)
      3. Figure out how to get around Brussels and do it as quickly as possible.

      But most likely this will not work, Scholz will not be able to build German Foreign Minister Anna Burbbock from the Green Party. Her post is high enough to act independently, but he will not be able to remove her, tk. her position in the government is the result of a coalition agreement with the Green Party, and they are opponents of SP2.
      1. businessv
        businessv 16 December 2021 17: 19
        0
        Quote: Pandiurin
        her position in the government is the result of a coalition agreement with the Green Party, and they are opponents of SP2.

        Not they, but their patrons, but this does not change the essence. The Germans themselves had already ate green energy up to their ears, under Schroeder it was the most popular topic, they paid extra from the budget for the kW produced, people got credits, bought small installations for generation, but after Schroeder left the surcharges were removed, and they began to buy the produced energy according to market purchase price. The people were just happy and the government, banks, and green energy were inclined in every way.
        1. Pandiurin
          Pandiurin 16 December 2021 22: 50
          -1
          Quote: businessv
          Quote: Pandiurin
          her position in the government is the result of a coalition agreement with the Green Party, and they are opponents of SP2.

          Not they, but their patrons, but this does not change the essence. The Germans themselves had already ate green energy up to their ears, under Schroeder it was the most popular topic, they paid extra from the budget for the kW produced, people got credits, bought small installations for generation, but after Schroeder left the surcharges were removed, and they began to buy the produced energy according to market purchase price. The people were just happy and the government, banks, and green energy were inclined in every way.


          Are the Germans "full on their ears"?

          The news is easily searched for in the internet:
          "In the face of record electricity prices in Europe, Germany will not change its plans and will shutdown three nuclear reactors and 11 coal-fired power plants in December. The country will lose 6,4 GW of generating capacity."

          And as for the prospects of the new German government, I suggest watching an interview with Rahr, the interview is long, but everything is thoroughly channeled on this topic (what to expect from the coalition government with the Greens, in general and in relation to Russia in particular, and why it is)
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QVRwFGo7NM
          1. businessv
            businessv 16 December 2021 23: 16
            +1
            Quote: Pandiurin
            The news is easily searched for in the internet:

            You did not understand my post, but you managed to close up the minus smile I don’t need to write about such well-known news, they are about the German authorities, but I wrote about people whom these authorities don’t give a penny to, and many have suffered materially from trying to save their money by investing it in "green energy"! And yes, greens are paid for what they do today, so they are ordinary puppets of mattresses who have long dreamed of making Germany (and with it the EU) weak and backward. I lived in Germany for 4 years, just at the time of the events I described, so I know about it for sure, and not by hearsay!
            1. Pandiurin
              Pandiurin 16 December 2021 23: 37
              +1
              Quote: businessv
              Quote: Pandiurin
              The news is easily searched for in the internet:

              You did not understand my post, but you managed to close up the minus smile I don’t need to write about such well-known news, they are about the German authorities, but I wrote about people whom these authorities don’t give a penny to, and many have suffered materially from trying to save their money by investing it in "green energy"! And yes, greens are paid for what they do today, so they are ordinary puppets of mattresses who have long dreamed of making Germany (and with it the EU) weak and backward. I lived in Germany for 4 years, just at the time of the events I described, so I know about it for sure, and not by hearsay!


              I didn't give you a minus, we see the situation a little differently, but on the whole in the same way.

              But all the same I want to draw your attention to the fact that you see the mood among ordinary Germans a little rosy.

              The Greens have a fairly high rating and it is just ordinary Germans who vote for their policies.
              And ordinary Germans are against SP2 not because they think about energy, but for completely different reasons, and such sentiments are widely represented among the Germans. Otherwise, such a policy would not have been promoted by the Bundestag.

              If you have lived in Germany for 4 years, you should probably know about this.
              1. businessv
                businessv 17 December 2021 11: 21
                0
                Quote: Pandiurin
                The Greens have a fairly high rating and it is just ordinary Germans who vote for their policies.

                And you are telling me that I see the mood of the Germans rosy !? I'm talking about the fact that the majority do not like the government's policy! You are a little unaware of HOW exactly voting takes place in Germany, if you write that the greens have a great rating. This speaks only of their activity (type in a search engine "minority activity") and nothing else. And let me remind you that this activity is generously paid, as I have already told you. My friend from our Germans served one cadence in the Bundestag, the whole kitchen knows about elections and the adoption of laws from the inside, so what you are suggesting about this, I know for sure because I am interested in these issues.
                And ordinary Germans are against SP2 not because they think about energy, but for completely different reasons, and such sentiments are widely represented among the Germans.
                For what reasons are the Germans against SP2 and who told you that they are against ?! Are you trying to assure me that the German government cares about ordinary Germans, and does not fulfill the demands of the occupation authorities? Or do you not know that the largest American base in Europe is located there? I ask you not to try to pass off your guesses and assumptions as reality - this does not look very good hi
    2. vervolk
      vervolk 16 December 2021 16: 25
      +1
      the actions of the Germans are now playing into the hands of Gazprom, as they lead to an increase in gas prices! I wonder if you don't understand this ...
      1. Pandiurin
        Pandiurin 16 December 2021 18: 16
        0
        Quote: vervolk
        the actions of the Germans are now playing into the hands of Gazprom, as they lead to an increase in gas prices! I wonder if you don't understand this ...


        This is beneficial in the short term. In business, if you play long, there must be mutually beneficial cooperation.
        Yes, there is a very good profit for the money now, but most of it is most likely taken by speculators. Gazprom is presented as the main traitor and the "culprit"; black PR.

        If it continues for a long time, gas consumers will go bankrupt, the market situation may change, for political reasons the EU may want to punish Gazprom, take away "excess super profits", yes, it is not fair, but how the courts work in the EU is known.

        A good option if JV2 works, then Gazprom will earn on volumes. It will be beneficial for us and consumers in the EU (Gazprom clients)
    3. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 16 December 2021 16: 34
      +1
      Quote: Graz
      Well, the Germans took the path of confrontation, so they must be punished. I hope our leaders have the courage

      Not so much the Germans as the EU, which doesn't care about German profit.
      And the striped ones are scurrying around behind the screen.
      There is no point in punishing - they will punish themselves.
  8. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 16 December 2021 15: 46
    +2
    As the head of the Association of Operators Initiative Erdgasspeicher, Sebastian Bleschke, said, given that winter has just begun and it is not known what it will be, this is a very low level.

    He transparently hinted that gas is now 1400 euros, and prices will rise every day.
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 16 December 2021 15: 55
      +4
      I have such a suspicion that European politicians from gas, sign in the payroll of Gazprom.
  9. Tagan
    Tagan 16 December 2021 15: 47
    +2
    I wonder how things are going with winter swimming in Europe?
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 16 December 2021 16: 45
      0
      Quote: Tagan
      I wonder how things are going with winter swimming in Europe?

      What, in Europe, all walruses have already been measured.
  10. kamarada
    kamarada 16 December 2021 15: 47
    -1
    Weld the pipe from our side and wait until they crawl on their knees.
  11. prior
    prior 16 December 2021 15: 51
    +6
    There will be no decision on Nord Stream 2 in the first half of 2022

    Excellent.
    It is necessary to take measures for gas prices to rise to $ 3000 by this time.
    Exercises on the border with Ukraine should not stop for a single day.
    To increase the contingent threefold.
    Embassy of Germany - on departure.
    Miller's statement on the refusal to use the SP-2.
    Establishment of European routes for maintenance for the entire winter. What we don’t pump in winter, we will make up in summer.
    And these are only the priority measures.
    May Europe joyfully celebrate the New Year. wassat
  12. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 16 December 2021 15: 51
    +1
    Now let's see how hard Russia’s eggs are in the desire to be consistent and not save Europeds at their first squeals in severe frosts. smile
  13. askort154
    askort154 16 December 2021 15: 51
    +3
    SP-2 is now a headache not for Russia, but especially for the EU. The cost of JV-2 is 10 billion. Gazprom's participation is 50%,
    that is, 5 billion. Due to the sharp rise in gas prices, Gazprom has already "recaptured" its 5 billion, now there is a net profit.
    Therefore, Russia calmly contemplates the dances of Russophobes around SP-2. The longer they "block", the higher
    there will be a price for gas, especially with the arrival of Santa Claus. Countries opposing SP-2 are shooting in the leg of the EU.
  14. Tagan
    Tagan 16 December 2021 15: 53
    0
    Quote: Graz
    Well, the Germans took the path of confrontation, so they must be punished. I hope our leaders have the courage

    Why punish them? Better to just pretend to be sympathetic. And they themselves will do everything with their own hands.
  15. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 16 December 2021 15: 53
    0
    This is all the intrigues of the "greens" of Germany and Annalena Berbock.
    Earlier, German Foreign Minister Annalena Berbock said that it is impossible to put the gas pipeline into operation, since it does not comply with the energy rules of the European Union. Berbock is the co-chairman of the Green Party, which criticized Nord Stream 2 during the Bundestag campaign.
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  17. zwlad
    zwlad 16 December 2021 15: 58
    +8
    Winter is soft in Europe, oh soft!
    We must call General Frost.
    1. vervolk
      vervolk 16 December 2021 16: 28
      -1
      The polar front is already moving towards Yakutia through the Karsky gate. expect frosts below minus fifty in Europe by January ...
      1. zwlad
        zwlad 16 December 2021 17: 09
        +1
        Unlikely. It will only reach -26 for us, and even less for Europe.
  18. Kurare
    Kurare 16 December 2021 16: 00
    0
    If anyone doubts that the SP-2 certification is a very long-playing disc, let them remember the story with the certification of Sputnik-V. It is still being certified and still "some" documents are missing.
    1. vitvit123
      vitvit123 16 December 2021 21: 00
      0
      So in Europe there is a "satellite" ... but there is no gas of its own! Something you have an analogy to groan ...
      1. Kurare
        Kurare 17 December 2021 10: 41
        0
        When there was nothing in Europe, there was already a Sputnik. When there was a complete shortage of vaccines in Europe, Sputnik could be used as a very good alternative.

        But, the point is not what to prick and what not to prick. And about the CERTIFICATION of the vaccine as such. There was a case when Russian diplomats in Brussels were refused access to the European Parliament building, since Sputnik, as a vaccine, is not recognized in Europe and diplomats are considered not vaccinated!
        1. vitvit123
          vitvit123 17 December 2021 11: 02
          0
          They did not have an official vaccine, but it appeared literally in a few days - weeks ... and what contradicts me here? The West was making its own vaccine, knew that it was about to appear, so it did not certify us ... with gas (again) it is different - there is no gas of its own and is not expected! Well, I can't comment on diplomats, in the context of the previous proposal ...
          1. Kurare
            Kurare 17 December 2021 11: 22
            0
            Quote: vitvit123
            and what contradicts me here?

            I can only repeat myself: there is no vaccine certification, which means it is not recognized, from the word - in general!
            Example: You, vaccinated by Sputnik, are visiting Europe and want to stay in a hotel. You can't, according to European officials, you are NOT VACCINED! Why is Sputnik not recognized? Because the European regulator lacks "some" documents. Doesn't this remind you of something?

            And the fact that Europe does not have "its" gas is not entirely true. There are also "democratic gas molecules" from the United States. There is only one small matter, the price in Europe should rise at the level of the Asian market and everything will be all right.
            1. vitvit123
              vitvit123 17 December 2021 12: 35
              0
              It’s hard for me to tell you the difference between the vaccine they have and the gas they don’t have! If you don't see the relationship here, then ...
              Ha .., the price should rise .., thank you, ATP .... and how much should it rise to you? You are welcome
              ... Now 1700 for 1000 dice ...!
              And I can't resist, but who owes the price? ... thanks in advance !
              1. Kurare
                Kurare 17 December 2021 16: 28
                0
                Quote: vitvit123
                It’s hard for me to tell you the difference between the vaccine they have and the gas they don’t have! If you don't see the relationship here, then ...

                Your statements remind European officials when they try to justify the "independence" of Kosovo - well, this is completely different!
                Do not be offended but you are wrong. There is gas in Europe, the whole question is in the price. And the Europeans really act on the principle, cake in the German proverb: I'd rather die than become "red".
                Quote: vitvit123
                and how much should it rise to you? You are welcome

                As soon as it is more profitable to supply to Europe than to Asia, the price should rise to this level. The fish seeks where it is deeper, the person - where it is better, and the capitalist - where the deal is more profitable.
                1. vitvit123
                  vitvit123 17 December 2021 19: 33
                  0
                  Of course there is! ... somewhere at such a depth with which it is impossible to get it or in a country from which to import it is worth its weight in gold! It's one and the same that he is not! Where is he? In Norway? Something doesn't save the price ..! It is growing! It is clear that when the price will step over the level at which it will already be cost-effective to transport it from anywhere, but this does not mean that it is profitable !!! And once again Europe has a vaccine, but no gas! And the fact that Europe will suddenly start buying it worth its weight in gold does not mean that gas appeared in Europe !!! It can also be imported from Mars, one might say, it will appear in Europe, but in reality, as it was not, and not ...
  19. evgen1221
    evgen1221 16 December 2021 16: 01
    0
    This proposal probashlit RF euronahlebnikov for another year and a half and two comfortable doing nothing, however?
  20. askort154
    askort154 16 December 2021 16: 03
    +1
    The steam locomotive with SP-2 has already left. For Russia, it is no longer important whether it will be launched or not.
    Due to high gas prices, Gazprom udzh returned its share spent on construction - 5 billion. The cost of JV-2 is only 10 billion, of which Gazprom contributed 5 billion. Due to the high price of gas, Gazprom has already repaid its hard-earned money. Now comes the net profit. Therefore, Russia calmly looks at the Russophobic bouncing around SP-2. Opponents of the SP-2 shoot at the EU's legs. And Santa Claus is on the way.
    1. NKT
      NKT 17 December 2021 09: 15
      +1
      Don't forget, Gazprom has also invested very large sums of money in the construction of pipelines for JV2: Bovanenkovo-Ukhta, Bovanenkovo-Ukhta2 and CS Gryazovets-CS Slavyanskaya (Ust-Luga)
  21. Vik66
    Vik66 16 December 2021 16: 12
    -1
    And we (Gazprom) have nowhere to hurry, over the winter it will recover losses due to high spot prices.
  22. Sovpadenie
    Sovpadenie 16 December 2021 16: 23
    0
    Interestingly, after such words, the gas price will rise sharply? And how many such statements are needed to compensate Russia for losses from the idle SP-2 due to the rise in gas prices
  23. rocket757
    rocket757 16 December 2021 16: 43
    +1
    Head of the Federal Grid Agency of Germany: There will be no decisions on Nord Stream 2 in the first half of 2022
    ... What the politicians are up to is understandable ... they won't freeze their ears.
    But for those who have chosen such, it will be very useful ... YOURSELF CHOSE SUCH, get it and sign.
  24. pomor23
    pomor23 16 December 2021 16: 44
    0
    "Head of the Federal Grid Agency of Germany: There will be no decisions on Nord Stream 2 in the first half of 2022." Well, that means there will be no gas either, and if there is, then there will be 2000 Euros! It will suit us. )))
  25. Sadok
    Sadok 16 December 2021 16: 54
    +1
    what is that? once in a hundred years Europe decides to get stars from Russia and successfully achieves this. dig out already, I don't know, Bonaparte or something ..
  26. Tests
    Tests 16 December 2021 16: 55
    +1
    LiSiCyn (Stas), dear, no conspiracy theories. Take some time to look at the list of Gazprom subsidiaries: ru.abcdef.wiki ›wiki / List_of_Gazprom_subsidiaries Then look specifically at the companies, who sold gas to whom from Germany, who is a co-owner-shareholder of underground gas storage facilities in Austria and Germany, I wonder ...
  27. Engineer Schukin
    Engineer Schukin 16 December 2021 16: 58
    -9
    Quote: Finches
    You can generally start cutting it for scrap, because because of your idiotic policy, due to a sharp increase in gas prices, Russia has already repulsed the costs of its construction! And it is unlikely to go into minus laughing Since a rusty Ukrainian pipe without modernization will soon turn into real dust by itself, the price of gas will not decrease!

    Well done, brother-patriot, it is immediately clear that you have properly understood the issue.
    True, there is a significant difference between the spot market and long-term contracts, but how can this affect the overall feeling of our next victory. Know ours! The enemy will not pass! Hip-hip!
  28. HAM
    HAM 16 December 2021 17: 10
    -1
    I suspect that it is the “greens” who are the main speculators in gas, so the launch of SP2 is not in their interests ......... money does not smell, and they don’t shake hands ..
  29. viktortarianik
    viktortarianik 16 December 2021 17: 22
    +1
    For a long time there was an impression that Gazprom is snatching rotten goods to EUROPE. I am simply amazed with what zeal they refuse normal gas offers. Maybe they don't need gas at all, but Russia is forcing them to buy under tank barrels? My brains are missing.
  30. Torp20
    Torp20 16 December 2021 17: 44
    -5
    What are you worried about Europe - it's not them, but we live next to the permafrost, only 30% of Russian gas goes to Europe - So Europe will live without our gas.
  31. Sfurei
    Sfurei 16 December 2021 17: 50
    0
    But in the last two years, who and how did not throw mud at the managers of Gazprom and the entire government. Like what for, pulling a pipe - we ourselves do not have enough gas, they will never be allowed to build, this is all unprofitable below, and so on. etc. And now everyone says: we did everything, Russia is the coolest, etc. And this is just a very expensive business and the best lawyers and the best managers work in it, and every sneeze and sigh in the Russian Federation and abroad is calculated and recorded. Just wait and squeeze until the client matures (freezes).
    1. impostor
      impostor 16 December 2021 19: 01
      0
      In other words, you want to say that 1.5 billion to Poles like "overpayment for gas at an overpriced price", or cancellation of take-or-pay while keeping send or pay clause to non-brothers - are these the best lawyers? Rather, they are lawyers with the best salary in the universe and the least responsibility in the galaxy.
      1. Sfurei
        Sfurei 17 December 2021 21: 56
        0
        That's right - the best lawyers !! ...
        Quote: impostor
        1.5 billion Poles
        resulted in incl. changing the contract at the request of the Poles, and pegging the gas price to spot prices (i.e. when the gas price fell below the contract price, they didn’t like it and it seemed that they were paying extra money) And now when prices shot up, the Poles shout that Gazprom had deceived them and supplies gas again at an expensive price)) Articles about this literally 2-3 weeks. flashed back. And Gazprom is now fighting off the fine by delivering at spot prices to Poland. Those. business cunning never benefits in the long run! In the minute perspective, yes, but in the long term, no. Something like this!! ))
        1. impostor
          impostor 17 December 2021 23: 08
          0
          You see, the assessment of the activities of the legal service is assessed by the number of won / lost claims. The fact that the logs heated themselves on the spot is not the merit of Gazprom's lawyers. Gazprom's lawyers manage to drain even their tax authorities: "The Moscow Arbitration Court approved the amicable agreements of PJSC Gazprom with the Interregional Inspectorate of the Federal Tax Service for the largest taxpayers No. 2 in cases No. A40-83348 / 2020 and No. A40-267202 / 2019. Within the framework of both claims, the company tried to challenge the additional tax assessment, but eventually recognized them. In turn, the FTS agreed that these episodes were not prejudicial to other disputes with Gazprom and that company officials did not act with intent. " At the same time, there are no ordinary boys and girls in the legal service of Gazprom, they pay too much, and graduates of ordinary universities work in the Federal Tax Service. The Gazprom lawyers that you admire, in fact bring only losses to the company - the balance of their activities is negative, alas ...
          1. Sfurei
            Sfurei 18 December 2021 21: 55
            0
            The legal service is assessed not by the number of won or lost claims, but by the elaboration of contracts when concluding them and preventing certain negative consequences in any case. And the courts are already a kind of lottery and often the influence of the subjective conjuncture (in Poland, for example, this is politics). You yourself gave an example that Gazprom agreed to the additional charge, but in response received a waiver of the prejudicial significance for other disputes. Or was it necessary to push the horn for 1-10 or how many yards and get a precedent for the rest of the disputes for years to come? And there is no need about the Federal Tax Service, just some students work there.
            And again, whoever said that letting the brakes on (even with a fine) a certain litigation and agreeing to continue to work is worse than finally breaking off relations with the buyer with an unclear prospect of further litigation.
            Have you worked with customers (legal entities)? If so, then you probably came across completely reckless ones and often had to adapt to their requirements in order to continue working. Or completely abandon, but not making a profit in this, but only the satisfaction of their own worth (which cannot be smeared on bread). Gazprom cannot afford to abandon some of the projects if they are not compensated by others (for example, supplies through Ukraine and Poland cannot be stopped without blocking them with other supply channels).
            1. impostor
              impostor 19 December 2021 19: 20
              0
              As an insider, I tell you - the number of won / lost in reports - full position
  32. km-21
    km-21 16 December 2021 17: 54
    -2
    There was no doubt about such a decision. The United States will not allow SP-2 to work under the current situation. SP-2 is primarily a landmark political project that should demonstrate Russia's ability to advance its own interests against the will of the United States. And if it works, it will spell the end of American dominance in Europe. Of course, Americans will do everything in their power to maintain their dominance. Therefore, in case of overcoming the next obstacle on the way of SP-2, the USA will immediately create the following.

    I have always affirmed and still affirm that in order to promote economic projects, their political support is necessary. An attempt to offer the market an economically attractive product or service will not work by itself unless there is a powerful political "roof" behind it, ready to push its interests through the intrigues of competitors. Therefore, in order to count on the successful advancement of its gas pipe, Russia will have to create a sufficient number of Armata, Su-57, aircraft carriers and other instruments of war. And also to put things in order in the adjacent territories so that no Ukrainians or Poles with Latvians would even dare to think about placing anti-Russian threats on their territories. Only after these steps will Russia begin to really respect and recognize. Otherwise - nothing.
  33. Lena Petrova
    Lena Petrova 16 December 2021 18: 08
    +1
    It is generally necessary to fit Fortuna and report that the pipe will be dismantled, due to the lack of interest from outside.
  34. Engineer Schukin
    Engineer Schukin 16 December 2021 19: 27
    -10
    Quote: viktortarianik
    For a long time there was an impression that Gazprom is snatching rotten goods to EUROPE. I am simply amazed with what zeal they refuse normal gas offers. Maybe they don't need gas at all, but Russia is forcing them to buy under tank barrels? My brains are missing.

    Likewise. I myself suffer without new training manuals. I seem to see how we are winning everyone again, but I don’t understand how and why, considering how the pipeline is empty. Well, nothing, you have to wait a bit and they'll let you down from the Kremlin tower to explain why we defeated everyone again.
  35. Engineer Schukin
    Engineer Schukin 16 December 2021 19: 30
    -8
    Quote: km-21
    And if it works, it will spell the end of American dominance in Europe.

    Blimey. How simple it turned out.
    So what will happen next, will Europe finally become free or will Russian domination come about? Very interesting. smile
  36. your vsr 66-67
    your vsr 66-67 16 December 2021 20: 20
    +1
    Things are good! Let the certification be delayed, it seems like Gazprom even plays into the hands. But what a misfortune, gas is getting more expensive for the Russian consumer too! For 20 - 21 years, the price of gas rose 4 or 5 times in our country! Lost count
  37. aszzz888
    aszzz888 17 December 2021 01: 56
    0
    Head of the Federal Grid Agency of Germany: There will be no decisions on Nord Stream 2 in the first half of 2022
    And figs on you! laughing Russia ALREADY !!! beat off her grandmother three times. And the year is not over yet! Let them freeze their ears there even for years - gas prices are only growing, as are the problems in Europe itself. bully
  38. BVG Technology
    BVG Technology 17 December 2021 09: 52
    -1
    It's just that this situation suits everyone, Gazprom - cream, Ghanaians and US - milk, and Ze - slogans about sanctions and a little dung ...
  39. musorg
    musorg 17 December 2021 11: 56
    0
    Accordingly, the same will not be gas. This is clear!
  40. p0pulivox
    p0pulivox 17 December 2021 14: 51
    -1
    Head of the Federal Grid Agency of Germany: There will be no decisions on Nord Stream 2 in the first half of 2022
    This confirms what I wrote in the comments to the previous articles. In addition, the EU gas directive (part 3 of the energy package) stipulates that independent companies should be engaged in the production and transportation of gas through the pipeline in the EU territory. Otherwise, Gazprom will be able to use only 50% of the pipeline's capacity. In the best case, the total pumping of two lines should be expected in the region of 22,5-30 billion cubic meters per year, maximum. All Gazprom tariffs must be open. Litigation over the future operation of the SP-2 seems to be continuing; their outcome will be negative rather than positive. I also remind you that the EU will continue to demand the preservation of the very expensive gas pumping through Ukraine. It is noted that the problem for Gazprom is that if it is forced to fulfill all these requirements, then the competitiveness of SP-2 will plummet. Well, if SP-2 is launched, gas prices will go down.
    When they say that SP-2 has already paid off, they forget that one should take into account not the increased "dirty" profit of Gazprom, but the net profit, which is much less. No less important is the following circumstance: in addition to about 10 billion euros spent by the project participants on the SP-2 itself, a much larger amount - about 30 billion euros - was spent by Gazprom itself, taking into account the entire infrastructure built on Russian territory. At least this figure is given by M. Korchemkin, director of the East European Gas Analysis consulting company.
    About perspectives:
    EADaily
    However, analysts warn that high prices in Europe pose many strategic threats to Gazprom, including due to the politicization of the market.
    “Whether Russia likes it or not, it is helping to open the door for LNG supplies, green energy development and energy storage projects, and restrictions on energy dependence on imports in Europe. We can easily see the trade agreement between the US and the EU for the annual supply of 20-30 million tons of LNG (27-41 billion cubic meters of gas), ”said Ira Joseph, head of the Gas and Energy Department at S&P Global Platts, on Twitter.
  41. Borisych
    Borisych 17 December 2021 18: 42
    0
    Gazprom has repulsed the grandmother, so the Germans can fart into the pipe as much as they want.
  42. Palmyra
    Palmyra 18 December 2021 00: 34
    0
    I wonder what are they waiting for? After all, everything, to the detriment of themselves .. Yes, and companies, they could have opened in advance, especially since the project is grandiose. Chickens laugh at their jerking now ..