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American observer said about the "superiority" of Ukrainian T-64BV tanks over Russian

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Currently, close to the borders with Ukraine, according to the American press, up to 1200 tanks Russian army. These are mainly modernized T-72 tanks and the latest T-90 tanks. Ukraine had to mobilize all of its own armored vehicles for a possible defense against a superior enemy.


The Ukrainian ground forces are currently armed with practically the same tank models as Russia, but there is also a modernized T-64 - "exclusively Ukrainian tank", writes the American author, not immediately informing his readers about which country (and the country was called the USSR), the tank was developed.

If there is an armed conflict between Russia and Ukraine, it will become a real test for the Ukrainian T-64 tank.

A Cold War machine, the T-64 was developed by the Kharkov Tank Plant in the Ukrainian SSR. David Ax calls this tank a huge step forward compared to the T-55 and T-62, which at the time made up the bulk of the tanks of Soviet armored units. Thus, the T-64 was the first Soviet tank with a standard 125mm smoothbore cannon. The USSR never exported the T-64, but supplied the simpler T-55, T-62, T-72 abroad. But in service with the Soviet army itself, T-64s were in abundance.

After the collapse of the USSR, Ukraine inherited hundreds of T-64 tanks, which were in service with the units of the Soviet Army stationed in the Ukrainian SSR, and the Kharkov plant itself, which produced these tanks. At first, the Russian army also had many T-64s, but then it abandoned them in favor of the simpler modernized T-72. Then the T-90 appeared.

Ukraine remained with the T-64, which underwent modernization. Thus, Kiev ended up with a more complex and advanced type of tank, while Moscow left simpler and cheaper, but also more practical tanks. In 1999, the Ukrainian government began modernizing the 64 T-1983BM. This is how the T-64BM "Bulat" appeared, which is equipped with improved reactive armor, a new cannon and a local NVG. By 2014, the Armed Forces of Ukraine had less than a hundred Bulats, as the production of modernized tanks was slow.



The war in Donbass led to dire consequences for the Ukrainian tank component: about 440 tanks were destroyed or damaged. Therefore, in 2017, the production of the modernized T-64BV began. These tanks are equipped with improved "night" sights, satellite navigation systems, new radio stations, and the armor is said to be of better quality. In 2019, the production of a new version of the T-64 began at the plant in Lvov. Now the Ukrainian Armed Forces have 410 T-64BV, 210 T-64BV of the 2017 model, 100 T-64BM Bulat and about 130 T-72.

According to David Ax, Ukrainian T-64s are technically much better than Russian tanks, they "outperform" them. But these advantages are unlikely to play a significant role, given that Russia has a much larger number of tanks at its disposal, and in other weapons, the RF Armed Forces have a serious advantage.
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  1. neri73-r
    neri73-r 16 December 2021 09: 53
    +52
    Insanity of the brain at the expert!
    1. Volkof
      Volkof 16 December 2021 10: 33
      +30
      Well no ! They are simply written from the thought of a possible war between Ukraine and Russia ... This is their most cherished dream and desire ... And the Judeo-Bandera clown trades in his country and the lives of people for the sake of P_ndos desires.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 16 December 2021 11: 18
        +9
        Quote: Volkof
        They are simply written from the thought of a possible war between Ukraine and Russia ... This is their most cherished dream and desire ..

        That's right - "You do not" pisiite "the Vaassals, Ukrainians, you attack, everything is best with you, just attack Russia, we look forward to it, and we" love "you. BRGDS Uncle Sam."
        1. Vladimir Mashkov
          Vladimir Mashkov 19 December 2021 14: 19
          +2
          Well, of course, where are the "backward" Russian tanks up to the "advanced" "Ukrainian" ones! laughing Funny this American X-perd Ex! laughing And he has a wonderful surname! laughing laughing laughing
    2. 210ox
      210ox 16 December 2021 11: 23
      +13
      No, he's just "Captain Evidence". Yes, the T-72 is simpler than the T-64, but the seventy-second was also upgraded. And so, yes, a little truth, a little live. So the Russophobic cocktail is ready.
      1. Barge_watchman
        Barge_watchman 17 December 2021 13: 46
        -4
        What is the lie?
        Enlighten, plz.
    3. belovvladimir
      belovvladimir 16 December 2021 12: 54
      +3
      Worse, he is trying to put the ukronatsik on an armed conflict not only against Donbass but also against Russia, I send her!
    4. Twodi
      Twodi 16 December 2021 17: 01
      +5
      Oh, not a fact (((. It is in the modernization that the problem lies. The Ukrainians have all modernization systems like a sight, night vision, thermal imagers) are imported. in the presence of such well-modernized tanks in dill less than 50 units ...
      1. Serg koma
        Serg koma 16 December 2021 18: 32
        +6
        Quote: Twodi
        Oh, not a fact (((

        Especially if in the photo/ video (from the article, by the way video dated April 10, 2017 and in Kharkov T-80, probably "Oplot-T" "Thai")) spot
        T-64BM "Bulat", which equipped with improved reactive armor
        (Explosive Reactive Armor, Reactive armor))
        We are waiting for more photos / videos / articles from our American "friends" in the heading "You can't imagine it on purpose", or "Humor of overseas "colleagues" " tongue
        1. Serg koma
          Serg koma 16 December 2021 19: 07
          +4
          On the official site of the plant, now only Ukrainian and English languages. In "NEWS" from 23.11.2021/09/03 XNUMX:XNUMX we read the following
          The new director of the State Enterprise “Zavod imeni V.O. Malisheva ”, Oleg Vinnik was appointed to enter the warehouse of Ukroboronprom. The new recruiter was informed by the nomination committee, presented by the top-level committee of the Concern, representatives of the embassies of France and the United States, the large anti-corruption organizations - NAKO and State Watch, as well as the Ministry of Strategic Industry as a policymaker in the OPK hall. The practice of appointing the directors of defense enterprises through the nomination committee of the Concern will be taken into account and given.

          Yandex translation to help - "Oleg Vinnik has been appointed as the new director of the state enterprise" Plant named after V. A. Malyshev ", which is part of Ukroboronprom. The new head was elected by the nomination committee, represented by the top management of the Concern, representatives of the embassies of France and the United States, public anti-corruption organizations - NAKO and StateWatch, as well as the Ministry of Strategic Industry as a policymaker in the defense industry. The practice of appointing directors of defense enterprises through the nomination committee of the Concern will continue to be applied. "
          The directors are appointed to the defense enterprise with the approval of the Sha and France - they have been pre-restructuring, pre-communist, before ...., before ..., before .....
          Wiki says that - Since 2009, the plant has produced only one tank for the Armed Forces of Ukraine.... Believe it or not Vicki ??? Can anyone give accurate information on the plant?
          the Malyshev plant has a debt of almost 2 billion hryvnia to the state. The company completed the year 2020 with a loss of 112 and a half million hryvnia.
          - "for what I bought, for what I sold" (from an unverified source, quote)
          D / S spicy lat. dēbilis of the concern "Ukroboronprom"
      2. ZeeD
        ZeeD 16 December 2021 20: 02
        +4
        The thermal imager replaces the NVD. If there is a teplak, there is no PNV)) Is it really hard to tell whether someone has sold 3 generations of ukram tepak. And the teplak of the Russian tanks is a copy of a good French teplak of just 2 generations. If I'm not mistaken, this is Katrin (we have Pine U). So there is no discernible advantage there, in fact.
      3. Quadro
        Quadro 17 December 2021 05: 38
        +2
        Quote: Twodi
        Oh, not a fact (((. It is in the modernization that the problem lies. The Ukrainians have all modernization systems like a sight, night vision, thermal imagers) are imported. in the presence of such well-modernized tanks in dill less than 50 units ...

        What's the point of these scopes if this T-64 was already overloaded in the 70s and 80s and its chassis was simply pulling on parole? They don't really have any repair factories, I am silent about the production of spare parts and new cars. There you will be lucky if there will be enough of them for a month of intense battles, and not of sluggish post-fires from caponiers. Well, yes, it has already been noted above that our (though far from all, as if the Ukrainian Armed Forces at all) tanks have French thermal imagers, probably one of the best that can be bought, no one will give up modern thermal imagers to ukram.
      4. Barge_watchman
        Barge_watchman 17 December 2021 13: 47
        -1
        More than a hundred.
        They just don't whistle about it.
    5. militarist63
      militarist63 16 December 2021 23: 35
      +4
      Yeah! laughing
      Currently, near the border with Ukraine, according to the American press, up to 1200 tanks of the Russian army are concentrated. These are mainly modernized T-72 tanks and the latest T-90 tanks. Ukraine had to mobilize all of its own armored vehicles for a possible defense against a superior enemy.

      Probably they did not realize that in this case, "for a possible defense", they need not so much tanks as anti-tank weapons (anti-tank defense) ...
  2. BMP-2
    BMP-2 16 December 2021 09: 56
    +11
    Eh, expert, expert ... You will decide there: who poses a threat to whom with their weapons! laughing
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 16 December 2021 11: 55
      +12
      Quote: BMP-2
      Eh, expert, expert ...

      Especially for "expert David Ax" I will repeat part of my yesterday's commentary. Although those "experts" do not need to repeat such things, but drive them into their heads with a fist
      .
      Who just told them that Russia would be with them? fight?
      And who just told them that Russia would fight them tanks?
      1. Normann
        Normann 16 December 2021 19: 04
        +7
        All this means - give me money, otherwise the Russian bear will go further)) although the bear himself does not even suspect that he needs to go somewhere)
        1. isv000
          isv000 16 December 2021 21: 03
          +6
          Quote: Normann
          All this means - give me money, otherwise the Russian bear will go further)) although the bear himself does not even suspect that he needs to go somewhere)

          The bear goes to bed, asked not to interfere. Well, if anyone decides to play around with shafts in the den - do not exact it. Where the curve will lead the crank bear, God only knows ... hi
  3. betta
    betta 16 December 2021 09: 59
    +9
    I don’t understand, they want to test the quality of their tanks on us? Commercials not only tanks can be lost.
  4. MDSW
    MDSW 16 December 2021 10: 00
    -50
    In terms of comfort, for sure. Nicely and high-quality painted, rugs are everywhere, optics are circled in white ... Ukrainians in terms of organizing life are an order of magnitude steeper than quilted jackets. That's just a bad indicator.
    1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Sidor Amenpodestovich 16 December 2021 10: 06
      +20
      Quote: MDSW
      Ukrainians are an order of magnitude steeper than quilted jackets in terms of organizing life

      It's sarcasm?
    2. fruc
      fruc 16 December 2021 10: 56
      +6
      If they have no bidet inside the tank (in the APU) near the rug, then this is not a tank.
    3. NDR-791
      NDR-791 16 December 2021 10: 58
      +17
      Quote: MDSW
      In terms of comfort, for sure. Nice and high quality painted, rugs everywhere, optics circled in white ...

      Exactly wassat laughing Yes, and two-story wassat wassat request
      1. Barge_watchman
        Barge_watchman 17 December 2021 13: 49
        +2
        Remfond of the Kiev plant.
        The photo is old, empty there now ...
        1. olegjuriewitch
          olegjuriewitch 17 December 2021 19: 53
          +2
          Melted into new ones. laughing
    4. 89268170588
      89268170588 16 December 2021 11: 19
      +22
      The coolest thing about the Ukrainian tank is that it uses lard. I served on the T-64B in the GSVG. This tank has more problems than advantages. The engine must be started in the summer with a heater. The shells must be removed from the conveyor, as there is a chance of being blown up when you start the pre-heater. Do not pump oil from boxes in winter, count up. For each cylinder there is a pump and 4 injectors. The tower and the MP on hydraulics and other delights. The skating rinks are narrow, the caterpillar has fallen off, you will get bogged down to the most. Apotheosis-trucks are prefabricated, look for spare parts in the mud and a bunch of childhood illnesses. Plus, it's a pretty easy replacement for a two-stroke boxer engine. The tank's nickname is "Chainsaw".
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 16 December 2021 12: 05
        +8
        Quote: 89268170588
        The coolest thing about the Ukrainian tank is that it uses lard. I served on the T-64B in the GSVG. This tank has more problems than advantages. The engine must be started in the summer with a heater. The shells must be removed from the conveyor, as there is a chance of being blown up when you start the pre-heater. Do not pump oil from boxes in winter, count up. For each cylinder there is a pump and 4 injectors. The tower and the MP on hydraulics and other delights. The skating rinks are narrow, the caterpillar has fallen off, you will get bogged down to the most. Apotheosis-trucks are prefabricated, look for spare parts in the mud and a bunch of childhood illnesses. Plus, it's a pretty easy replacement for a two-stroke boxer engine. The tank's nickname is "Chainsaw".

        I remembered.

        Old Man Hottabych is walking along the road. Looks - the tankers are changing the caterpillar. Fits:
        - Guys, peace be with you! What are you doing?
        - Go, old man, where you were going ... Do not you see - with the caterpillar [having sex]?
        - Do you want to really, really [have sex]?
        - Well ... who doesn't want to ... repeat
        - Fuck-tibidoch ... Dzin (hair from the beard) ...
        And the turret of the tank flies off to the side ...
      2. Old tanker
        Old tanker 16 December 2021 12: 33
        +8
        Greetings colleague. Almost all the deficiencies of the T-64 were indicated. It remains to add bursting torsion bars due to the fact that they are short on the body, the engine is weak and the fingers stretch when starting with oil injection.
        For the sake of fairness, it should be noted that on the T-72 / T-90, without double pumping oil from the boxes, it also got up.
        1. Urs
          Urs 16 December 2021 13: 17
          +8
          Duc BKPP they have the same that according to the principle of work that the developer.
          On all machines with this type of gearbox, a set of planetary gear sets with a hydromechanical gear change, it is necessary to do double pumping of oil.
          The car will not stop, but spontaneous movements of the car can occur, and completely unpredictable. This is what I am telling you, as a deputy of the company on the T64B, I filled up two walls in the box sad .50 to 50 saves from strong gestures when starting to squeeze the brake and "clutch". And even better, work with the fur of water for storing the machine by the method of "democratizer anti-bulbitor" is popularly used to put the head in the head.
          1. Old tanker
            Old tanker 16 December 2021 14: 58
            +5
            Jumping on the T-64 from this is rare, but there are. But the T-72 will not start stupidly. The starter lacks the power to crank both the crankshaft of the guitar gear engine and the gearboxes. However, the T-64 often got up from this in the same way.
            In general, the T-64 is a nightmare of a construction engineer! Were at my UBG. The tractor is still a "present", but the cap is good!
            The sighting complex and rate of fire of the old man T-72B is superior. Again, 6 more shells in mechanized stacking. Well, in addition, a closed ZPU. In skillful hands, a dangerous beast for the LPNR corps.
        2. Barberry25
          Barberry25 16 December 2021 14: 24
          +2
          the dumbest thing about the T-64 is the MH and the lack of new shells ... in other words, they will not be able to hit the T-72b3 in the forehead, it will not be banal to penetrate in most places, but the T-72b3 has Leads, and hitting the MH is more fatal from - for vertical arrangement
      3. militarist63
        militarist63 17 December 2021 00: 17
        +4
        I served on the T-64B in the GSVG. This tank has more problems than advantages.
        Quite right! I didn’t have a chance to serve on them, I just sat in it (and served on the T-62M, T-62MV, T-72 and slightly T-55), but we had techie officers after the GSVG - that's it ... they are ... recalled in sue with the best swear words these same T-64s ... how much blood they drank from them! Yes, I also remember the incident that happened in the GSVG, then, according to his bitter experience in the army, the tank officers were given additional instructions on the operation of the T-64. There (in the GSVG), in terms of exercises, they raised an alarm on some tank army with access to the area ... It was a very dry and hot summer. The BTT of an entire division was advancing along one route ... - the dust rose incredible. This very dusty very quickly clogged the cyclones of the T-64A air cleaners moving in the column .... As a result, the engines began to attack en masse !!! There were dozens of cars, stopping the advance of the entire column! ... Then there were showdowns ... thunder and lightning ... But as a result, it turned out that, in principle, the operation was in accordance with the M&E ..., i.e. the creators did not foresee everything! Then they sent a whole crowd of specialists from the Malyshev plant to "clean up the rubble" ...
      4. Barge_watchman
        Barge_watchman 17 December 2021 13: 53
        0
        There were BVs in the GSVG ?! belay
        Half of what you wrote is by hand.
        How many heaters have zoldatiks ripped at me ... not being able to start correctly ...
  5. rocket757
    rocket757 16 December 2021 10: 01
    +13
    That's for sure, the "specialist" wrote ... he probably has the Abrasha, the best tank in the world ...
  6. Klingon
    Klingon 16 December 2021 10: 02
    +10
    OOO, as these ExPers already got! Let his abrashek examine and we will form our own opinion on the modernized Soviet legacy somehow wassat
  7. svp67
    svp67 16 December 2021 10: 08
    +14
    According to David Ax, Ukrainian T-64s are technically much better than Russian tanks, they "outperform" them.
    Well, that's it .... today and until the New Year and Christmas in Ukraine are non-working days ...
  8. Yrec
    Yrec 16 December 2021 10: 08
    +15
    How glad I am with such "experts" in matrasland! There would be more of them! The more there are, the better for us.
  9. Cutter
    Cutter 16 December 2021 10: 09
    +9
    The Ukrainian ground forces are currently armed with practically the same tank models as in Russia, but there is also a modernized T-64 - "exclusively Ukrainian tank"

    Practically the same models may be, only in Russia there has been a long time ago the modernization of existing ones, and in Ukraine - RUSTIZATION, with the subsequent sale for scrap.
    But "exclusively Ukrainian tank" is the mood for the whole day! laughing
  10. AshPoseidon
    AshPoseidon 16 December 2021 10: 09
    +9
    Even if they continue to think that the Ukrainian T-64s are technically much better than Russian tanks, they "surpass them." wassat
  11. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 16 December 2021 10: 10
    +6
    I think it's not even worth commenting on this statement by Egspert ... wassat
  12. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 16 December 2021 10: 11
    0
    I still didn't get it. What is the best thing?
    1. evgenii67
      evgenii67 16 December 2021 10: 22
      +12
      Well, it also says "more complex and advanced", but this "expert" must understand that more complex does not mean better, but about "advanced" there is sadness for Ukrainians. The T-72B3 is unlikely to be inferior in any respect to the T-64 of any modification of the APU, let alone the T-90M and T-80BVM
    2. Barge_watchman
      Barge_watchman 17 December 2021 13: 54
      0
      and you read the article in the original.
      and not as you sang Rabinovich. laughing
  13. Pavel episkop
    Pavel episkop 16 December 2021 10: 13
    +14
    What are the advantages?) In the overweight construction of the tank? In dz "knife", which demonstrated "super defense"? Maybe suo or communication has become more secure? There's a lot there. He obviously "smokes" something or such an order was received) in any case, a sad fate awaits them
  14. donavi49
    donavi49 16 December 2021 10: 26
    +9
    Well, if we compare the newest T-64BM2, then it is objectively better than the Soviet T-72b / 80 without modernization, which is still quite a lot.
    + 1000 strong engine and transmission with reverse gear. That is, everything up to 72B3 UBH and 90 old ones are worse.
    + French thermal imager. Again, the thermal imager is now very, very decisive. Tanks without him on the battlefield are disabled, especially in difficult weather conditions.
    + communications and platoon control systems in battle from Aselsan. Again, modern control systems, positioning on the ground are much better than shouting over the radio who-where and how the situation is there.
    + DZ Knife2, which is also against crowbars, especially in version 2, according to the developers.


    However, there are only 7 such tanks. T-64BV 2017, there are several brigades - they are the main armored force, but there are already thinner - KnifeM in K1 containers, there is more overlap, but the DZ itself is even worse than K5, there is a thermal imager, this is a plus, but MTO is repairing without modernization, reverse gear and additional forces, just walkie-talkies from aselsan, without BIUS / command tablets. Only positioning sensors for the commander on an external issuing system.



    Here they are actually better than only the old 72B / miner's armored vehicles.
    1. Quadro
      Quadro 17 December 2021 05: 47
      0
      The fact that the old 72/80 does not mean much that they will be thrown into the front line with an equal opponent. Basically, this old stuff flickers on the teachings.
    2. Barge_watchman
      Barge_watchman 17 December 2021 14: 01
      -3
      The modernization does not stop, the shops of the repair factories are not empty. There are no sanctions, improvements are received from all over the world. money is allocated for this.
      There are still buildings. engines and gearboxes of their own, trunks, like too ...
      1. Maks winter
        Maks winter 18 December 2021 01: 42
        +3
        their trunks ??? What do you smoke ??? wassat
  15. Geofiz
    Geofiz 16 December 2021 10: 32
    +18
    This is what the Ukrainians themselves say about their super tank ...
    In December 2017, Major General Yuri Tolochnoi, former Deputy Commander of the Ground Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine for logistics, said: “Some options for modernizing [armored vehicles] turn out to be unsuccessful in real combat. For example, T-64BM "Bulat" tanks, due to their heavy weight and weak engine, turned out to be ineffective, were transferred to the reserve, and replaced by linear T-64
    Also, the damask steel does not have a thermal imager and a panoramic sight of the commander, plus the "knife" didn’t save him from the shells there.
    And it’s not clear that everyone is right in line for damask steel .... so-so "expert"
  16. riwas
    riwas 16 December 2021 10: 35
    +13
    American observer said about the "superiority" of Ukrainian T-64BV tanks over Russian

    In modern warfare, the decisive factor is not the advantage in tanks, but aviation, cruise and ballistic missiles, which ensure the destruction of the main forces of the enemy. This was the case in Iraq. Tanks are needed, but then - to capture and hold territory.
    1. vvnab
      vvnab 16 December 2021 11: 05
      +9
      For some reason, everyone stubbornly misses this moment.
      To understand what will happen to Ukraine in the event of a war with a rival who owns military aircraft, it is enough to remember Yugoslavia. It won't come to tanks.
      And no Afghanistan will come from Ukraine. There, whatever one may say, representatives of modern European civilization live. Deprive them of electricity and warm sorting and all serious resistance will cease.
      1. Normann
        Normann 16 December 2021 19: 12
        +8
        And the majority of the population does not want war, except for especially gifted comrades - whose name is the Nazis.
  17. Dmitry V.
    Dmitry V. 16 December 2021 11: 03
    +3
    Wars are won not by quality tanks, but by their quantity and crew experience.
    Something nemchura with T-VI could not protect the Reich.
    1. vl903
      vl903 16 December 2021 11: 28
      +1
      Quote: Dmitry Vladimirovich
      Wars are won not by quality tanks, but by their quantity and crew experience.
      Something nemchura with T-VI could not protect the Reich.

      t4 against t34-85, su85 did not give decisive advantages. our tanks were moving close to each other
      1. Dmitry V.
        Dmitry V. 16 December 2021 13: 01
        +5
        Quote: vl903
        t4

        Written by T-VI or PzKpfw VI (or Tiger I). The tank is expensive, effective, but unsuccessful. With the advent of the SU-100 and IS-2, it lost its invulnerability at long distances.
        1. vl903
          vl903 16 December 2021 13: 45
          +1
          Quote: Dmitry Vladimirovich
          Quote: vl903
          t4

          Written by T-VI or PzKpfw VI (or Tiger I). The tank is expensive, effective, but unsuccessful. With the advent of the SU-100 and IS-2, it lost its invulnerability at long distances.

          wrong. I agree with the tiger
  18. Curious Katya
    Curious Katya 16 December 2021 11: 08
    +7
    According to David Ax, Ukrainian T-64s are technically much better than Russian tanks, they "outperform" them.


    First, the which ones "Russian tanks"? T-72, T-80, T-90? What modifications?
    Second, the what exactly are superior? AND by what indicators better?
    About this American yap and idiot ... oh, excuse me, an expert - did you forget to tell?
    1. Normann
      Normann 16 December 2021 19: 14
      +4
      Any weapon is better when it is directed against the Russian Federation - the logic of all pro-Western experts.
    2. Barge_watchman
      Barge_watchman 17 December 2021 14: 04
      -5
      He said something. Only in the translation of the article was it cut out.
      Read the source.
  19. HAM
    HAM 16 December 2021 11: 19
    +5
    It seems that they are trying to take us to "weak", and what if the Russians in the heat of the moment will give out a military secret ..... kaaak will start to brag ..... uuh!
  20. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 16 December 2021 11: 48
    -1
    Do Russian T-72B3s have satellite navigation through which the crews see themselves on the ground, and the battalion or regiment command can see their tanks?
    1. Old tanker
      Old tanker 16 December 2021 12: 40
      +5
      No. And on the modernized T-64BV arr. 2017 no.
  21. Victorio
    Victorio 16 December 2021 12: 00
    +4
    Currently, near the borders with Ukraine, according to the American press, up to 1200 tanks of the Russian army are concentrated.
    ===
    by all means with a tank wedge and open the defense of ukraine
    1. ugol2
      ugol2 16 December 2021 16: 02
      +12
      Let's go pig!
      And then Kappelevtsy into the psychic!
  22. singless
    singless 16 December 2021 12: 05
    0
    again if ... if Zelensky had me ---- he would have been a husband despite the fact that his grandfather would have cursed him
  23. Dimy4
    Dimy4 16 December 2021 12: 55
    +1
    Well, we have to admit that the Ukrainian tank is superior to our BT-7, for example.
  24. wandlitz
    wandlitz 16 December 2021 12: 57
    +4
    In 2019, the production of a new version of the T-64 began at the plant in Lvov.
    Yeah, in Kharkov, new tanks are practically not produced, but at the tank repair plant in Lvov they produce without any problems ... I doubt it, however ...
    1. alexey sidykin
      alexey sidykin 19 December 2021 12: 03
      +1
      But what about taking two old tanks, collecting one of them and painting. Than you are not a new tank
  25. Nexcom
    Nexcom 16 December 2021 13: 26
    +2
    The results of research and work by Rostik Abramov with cardboard are evident ...
  26. sgr291158
    sgr291158 16 December 2021 15: 40
    +1
    The author bears some kind of nonsense.
  27. APASUS
    APASUS 16 December 2021 16: 24
    +1
    The smoky American expert put all the points, Ukrainian tanks are the best in the world. Why then so many were knocked out, as many as 400 pieces
  28. Kerensky
    Kerensky 16 December 2021 16: 44
    +2
    I think that in the presence of the Russian Aerospace Forces, these best tanks will burn out right on trailers and will ...
    1. Normann
      Normann 16 December 2021 19: 17
      +1
      And how to go without a trailer, you need this fuel) And the allies will fill up the trailers.
      1. Kerensky
        Kerensky 16 December 2021 19: 43
        +1
        How to go without a trailer

        In modern realities, tanks and trailers ride along with air defense systems. And here they are completely helpless. Even the best tank without ammo and crew, tied to the road, is perfectly killed by air strikes. And after him and air defense vehicles under a tarpaulin, riding on a trailer. No maneuver! (With)
  29. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 16 December 2021 19: 39
    +2
    The Ukrainians have riveted so much marriage with raw armor that there is little to help them.
  30. expert
    expert 16 December 2021 20: 18
    +2
    With great pleasure, I read the comments of men who personally, not from the instructions and the Internet, are familiar with the machines discussed here. You guys have no price!
    Thank you.
    1. Barge_watchman
      Barge_watchman 17 December 2021 14: 07
      -2
      He also giggled.
      Especially considering that I worked a little with object 447a. repeat
      Well, and this, they do not burn in the tank.
  31. s1ma
    s1ma 16 December 2021 20: 49
    0
    It's even funny ...
  32. Nord11
    Nord11 16 December 2021 22: 13
    +4
    Aha, and the evil and well-motivated lad on a hang-glider with grenades surpasses all Russian aviation.
  33. Shuttle
    Shuttle 17 December 2021 10: 01
    +1
    ... in 2017, the production of the modernized T-64BV began

    I think that it is necessary to clarify - what is the production from? What is the TS raw material, raw material for such a production?
    Is it possible to extract ore, cook metal from it and forge "Bulat" from it?
  34. Shuttle
    Shuttle 17 December 2021 10: 16
    +2
    Cool video of Ukroboronprom.
    For some reason, the anti-aircraft kulemet was installed, and the paired nemae. repeat
    There is a cannon, but there are no shells during loading, even for a kin.
    Side screens are only in the workshop, but not at the test site.
    It is clear that the hatch is open according to the good tradition of filming with a soap dish. But why the inscriptions on the nameplates are not in the Mov, but in Muscovite? Straight out of the blue.
    The breeder has probably seen my grandfather. These tanks do not look like new ones. They look like repainted.
  35. Vasily1976
    Vasily1976 17 December 2021 12: 22
    +3
    Good target for good old RPG 7
  36. Barge_watchman
    Barge_watchman 17 December 2021 13: 44
    +1
    Reading the article. obviously you understand that the city of Kharkiv went to Ukraine purely by chance. He fell from the sky, along with a tank factory.
    And the tank was designed by aliens from Mars.
    By the way, BVs were already in the 16th year.
  37. zenion
    zenion 17 December 2021 14: 43
    +5
    A very smart tank. He has many achievements that are in living nature. He has a rake and he can bury himself in the ground if there are no stones there. If pebbles come across him, the crew starts to vomit. If it is impossible to hide underground, he can pretend to be dead. He throws the turret, tracks and crew to the sides to different places. But no further than half a meter. If it is more by a millimeter, he can collect bolts, but not nuts, he does not assemble the crew in place, but leaves where he threw them. The Americans are going to buy such tanks for study to remove the possibility of pretending to be dead. Three cans of real cookie-keel will be paid for each tank. This is not just a product assembled from metal, but already a real tank of the future, which will eventually learn to fly off platforms and other means of transportation. PS. News. They have been trained and have already learned how to fly off the reels with the crew.
  38. tank64rus
    tank64rus 17 December 2021 14: 43
    +2
    They have a rather weak undercarriage and take off their shoes on the mud. He himself served in the GSVG and saw how many of them were dragged in for repairs. Terrible dream of the deputy head. The fact that these shortcomings were resolved did not read anywhere. Well, we'll wait and see all the improvements.
  39. pomor23
    pomor23 17 December 2021 16: 23
    +3
    "American observer said about the" superiority "of Ukrainian T-64BV tanks over Russian"
    Yes, we know, we know! Ukrainian tanks are the best in the galaxy! Not! The best in everything
  40. boris epstein
    boris epstein 17 December 2021 16: 37
    +1
    "So, the T-64 was the first Soviet tank with a standard 125-mm smoothbore cannon. The USSR never exported the T-64, but supplied the simpler T-55, T-62, T-72 abroad. But it is in service with the Soviet army itself. T-64s were in abundance.
    After the collapse of the USSR, Ukraine inherited hundreds of T-64 tanks, which were in service with the units of the Soviet Army stationed in the Ukrainian SSR, "
    The first batches of the T-64 were equipped with a 115 mm cannon.
    Ukraine inherited from the USSR not hundreds, but THOUSANDS of tanks, and not only the T-64. In 2000, the Ukrainian army had 4063 tanks: 320 T-80, 2200 T-64, 1500 T-72, 155 T-55. Source: "The Armed Forces of the Countries of the World", Potpourri, Minsk, 2002, p. 338.
    One can argue for a long time about the advantage of the T-64 over the T-72 and T-80.
  41. Sergey11121
    Sergey11121 17 December 2021 18: 22
    +1
    Who needs these tanks, turn off the electric switch in Russia and Belarus, close the borders, block ports from the sea, in a couple of weeks they themselves will gnaw each other's throats.
  42. Andrey Kuligin
    Andrey Kuligin 17 December 2021 22: 18
    +2
    The expert forgot to mention that all this iron moves only thanks to the supply of diesel fuel from the "aggressor country" therefore the "aggressor" will not even have to shoot, but only send 1 (one) locksmith and close the valve ... well, you still need 1 (one ) people in a gray suit. who will ring around too nimble businessmen ... oh, yes .... bored ukrotankists will also see off with a melancholy glance the "Caliber" flying through them, useless, deep into the depths ....... ...
  43. Poseidon_2
    Poseidon_2 17 December 2021 23: 17
    +2
    Just do not try to tell David Ax that tank guns have never been produced in Ukraine and are not being produced, otherwise he will suddenly be upset and offended. So the whole modernization of the Bulat tank gun consisted of polishing the barrel.
    1. Gookuni yeddey
      Gookuni yeddey 17 December 2021 23: 43
      -1
      No. The guns were rolled for them, if memory serves, in Shostka. But in post-Soviet times. They tried in Nikolaev, but the money was clamped. They used a special vein and three-dimensional treatment. It turned out not worse than the krivan ones.
  44. RSAbum2004
    RSAbum2004 18 December 2021 02: 08
    0
    No matter how hard this author tries, the machine is certainly good (and not the fact that the tanks are of the same line) everything is determined by training, practical training, knowledge and fortitude ....
  45. Charik
    Charik 18 December 2021 06: 05
    0
    no matter how pi ... to know everything about tanks T
  46. alexey sidykin
    alexey sidykin 19 December 2021 11: 43
    +2
    Well, what can I say. Well done expert, amused.
  47. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 19 December 2021 18: 33
    -1
    And the T-34-85 is superior to the T-64! And the best tank in the world at the moment is the MK-V "male" laughing
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  49. BOB044
    BOB044 20 December 2021 09: 47
    +1
    David Ax is not by chance a native of Lviv. And in tanks he understands like a pig in an orange.
    1. Vl-r Al-v
      Vl-r Al-v 20 December 2021 15: 53
      0
      This David Ex is an American war correspondent, blogger and graphic writer (in other words, he writes comic novels) ... COMICS - that says it all !!!))).
      1. Pipa Suriname
        Pipa Suriname 14 February 2022 21: 52
        0
        Comics are the main printed publications in the United States on any subject, including military technology. Without pictures, the local electorate does not assimilate the information.))
  50. lewerlin53rus
    lewerlin53rus 23 December 2021 23: 40
    0
    T-64BM "Bulat", which is equipped with improved reactive armor,
    Maybe radioactive? so it will be more accurate. Ukrainians there stole all the Chernobyl graves.