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Israeli exercises on the "transition from peacetime to wartime" gave rise to talk about preparations for a possible war with Iran

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In Israel, completed exercises, the main task of which was to work out the "transition from peacetime to wartime." The Israeli press reports that the ground forces of the country and servicemen of the IDF logistics department took part in the exercise. The reports say that the readiness of the troops "for the next armed conflict" was checked.


During the maneuvers, which lasted several days, warehouses with supplies for emergencies, control and logistics centers, and large transport hubs were involved. From the personnel - representatives of military medical formations, military police, military personnel of the ground forces.

During the exercises, live firing was carried out, military equipment and personnel were transferred to different parts of the country. Tasks were carried out for urgent deliveries of ammunition, for loading and unloading military equipment.

The course of the exercises was observed by the chief of the Israeli General Staff, Aviv Kohavi. He noted that, among other things, the tasks of material and technical support were being solved "for a possible transition from peacetime to wartime."



This type of exercise in Israel, against the backdrop of recent Air Force drills using aircraft with super-large outboard fuel tanks, suggests that Israel may be preparing for war with Iran. We will remind that earlier in the Israeli Ministry of Defense declared the categorical unacceptability of the "nuclear deal" with Tehran, adding that in any case Israel will take all measures to ensure that Iran does not have a nuclear weapon... Against this background, Israel even had certain disagreements with the United States, where they consider it possible to return to agreements with Iran. The US believes that Israel's actions can only aggravate the situation. But in Israel itself, they do not agree with this interpretation.
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  1. askort154
    askort154 16 December 2021 08: 14
    +10
    And I wondered where the "processor" had gone with my students on the VO website.
    It turns out they were all on the exercises. They attacked Iran.
    1. Finches
      Finches 16 December 2021 08: 21
      +3
      The Persians had not to cave in to Islam, but to develop Zoroastrianism, then the Jews would not have had a special reason to find fault! laughing
      1. just exp
        just exp 16 December 2021 09: 27
        +2
        Muslim Arabs practically massacred the Zoroastrians.
        By the way, there is an opinion that Zoroastrianism was a probe of the elites for the creation of a world religion. the project failed, so the Jerusalem beliefs were used.
        this is by the way possible and there is the main reason why the Persians and Jews do not digest each other more than Jews and Arabs.
        in the distant past were competitors
        1. dzvero
          dzvero 16 December 2021 10: 49
          +2
          the project failed

          Not at all, in the Roman Empire, Mithraism was quite popular. Banned at the end of the 4th century with the spread of Christianity.
          in the distant past were competitors

          Judaism was a "small-town" religion purely within one people and never once a competitor to Zoroastrianism. Its branches - Christianity and Islam - became its competitors. So they "figured out" with Zoroastrianism and Mithraism.
          PMSM is the main reason for the failure - both branches of Judaism proved to be more suitable for "managing the herd" by those in power.
          1. just exp
            just exp 16 December 2021 14: 25
            0
            Mitra is not Ahura Mazda.
            he is generally from Vedism, even before the pre-Avestan Indo-Iranian division.
            and I don’t argue about Judaism, therefore I wrote that Jerusalem beliefs, not Judaism.
            because Christianity and Islam in their current form are purely Jerusalem projects and have little to do with the original beliefs.
            but about the competition, it is the Jews who control both Islam and Catholicism (and one of the branches of Orthodoxy (they can only be distinguished by the architecture of monasteries), and I generally keep quiet about any Protestants and sectarians).
            and if Zoroastrianism had not failed, the Persians would have controlled the world religion.
            By the way, they may have been competitors in the polit. level, read where the Zahak fortress was and read or watch a video about megaliths UNDER the Wailing Wall and indeed near Jerusalem.
            and Zoroastrianism allowed controlling herds no less than any other religion. that is why Iran was the coolest world empire at that time.
        2. aslan balayev
          aslan balayev 16 December 2021 12: 04
          +3
          Some historians write about the salvation of the Jews from the Babylonian captivity by the Persians. Somewhere 2500 ago. The last Iranian Shah who was overthrown by the Ayatollahs was very friendly with Israel and with the Jews in general.
          1. just exp
            just exp 16 December 2021 14: 27
            +1
            yes, but then ...
            read about Haman's ears.
            the last sheikh was friends with the states and lay under them.
            1. aslan balayev
              aslan balayev 16 December 2021 17: 07
              +1
              Quote: just EXPL
              yes, but then ...
              read about Haman's ears.
              the last sheikh was friends with the states and lay under them.

              I looked for "Haman's ears" and came across some kind of culinary recipe. Then he added "sheikh". So what? Such self-proclaimed so-called. Sheikhs on the Internet ..... To waste time on all sorts of crazy people, you know ..... Yes, I don’t need to look, in any mosque you can meet these charlatans and cheats. Or do you mean something else. hi
              1. just exp
                just exp 17 December 2021 05: 14
                -1
                badly looked for means that Haman is the adviser to the king Artaxerxes, who married Esther and she, through intrigues, eliminated Haman and the Jews staged genocide against the Persians by the hands of the Persians themselves.
                among Jews this act has now become the national holiday of Purim.
                True, in Jewish legends such as the Persians initially conceived to exterminate the Jews, but the murderers will always come up with an excuse for themselves, because initially the Persians did not want to exterminate them, but to evict them back to Israel.
                and only then they changed everything so that the Persians were terrible bloodsuckers, and Esther and her thugs were patriots and philanthropists.
                1. aslan balayev
                  aslan balayev 17 December 2021 10: 06
                  -1
                  Quote: just EXPL
                  badly looked for means that Haman is the adviser to the king Artaxerxes, who married Esther and she, through intrigues, eliminated Haman and the Jews staged genocide against the Persians by the hands of the Persians themselves.
                  among Jews this act has now become the national holiday of Purim.
                  True, in Jewish legends such as the Persians initially conceived to exterminate the Jews, but the murderers will always come up with an excuse for themselves, because initially the Persians did not want to exterminate them, but to evict them back to Israel.
                  and only then they changed everything so that the Persians were terrible bloodsuckers, and Esther and her thugs were patriots and philanthropists.

                  Well, yes, depending on the conjuncture, it is now profitable for the Jews to exalt the role of Madame Esther, to submit salvation from Babylonian captivity as eviction, to expose the Perseus as terrible creatures with horns and hooves. Everything is very clear. By the way, the October exercises near the borders of Azerbaijan, the Ayatollahs called the "Khyber Victory" for the same reasons. Although there was not a trace of Persev. The mullahs fell in love. And with teachings too. But where does the rapprochement of Sheikh Aman with the States have to do with it? Apparently, all the same, you sent me to the wrong place. request Israel's rapprochement with all Arabs was very rapid and unexpected. It cannot be ruled out that instead of the supposedly inevitable war with the Persians, we will witness another friendship between them. And then the Jews will have to forget the legend about the exploits of the aforementioned lady and find in the inexhaustible chest of History myths suitable for this situation. I have not read the history of the ancient east for a long time. hi
                  1. just exp
                    just exp 17 December 2021 10: 54
                    0
                    Believe me, the matter is much deeper there.
                    and if the Jews have a serious enmity with the Arabs, the Arabs are not competitors to the Jews.
                    and the Persians, in addition, are still a power controlling a certain region. therefore, if by some miracle the Jews make peace with the Persians, it will only be in public. the knife will be sharpened behind the back only on the way.
                    but it was not me who remembered the last sheikh.
                    I wrote about the fact that Zoroastrianism was originally the first to claim the laurels of world religion.
                    and if the project succeeded, there would be no world Christianity or world Islam.
                    but Judaism would be all the same, but it would also be a purely Jewish religion.
                    1. aslan balayev
                      aslan balayev 17 December 2021 13: 51
                      -1
                      Quote: just EXPL
                      Believe me, the matter is much deeper there.
                      and if the Jews have a serious enmity with the Arabs, the Arabs are not competitors to the Jews.
                      and the Persians, in addition, are still a power controlling a certain region. therefore, if by some miracle the Jews make peace with the Persians, it will only be in public. the knife will be sharpened behind the back only on the way.
                      but it was not me who remembered the last sheikh.
                      I wrote about the fact that Zoroastrianism was originally the first to claim the laurels of world religion.
                      and if the project succeeded, there would be no world Christianity or world Islam.
                      but Judaism would be all the same, but it would also be a purely Jewish religion.

                      If you mean "the matter is deep there" because of the events of 2500 years ago, then this is not serious. And the threats of the Iranian mullahs are just threats. I cannot find a reason why the mullahs should destroy the Jewish state. The problems of the Palestinians do not interest the Persians at all. (Just like the Gazza promlema of the Turks) Mullacracy needs external enemies because of internal problems. Yes, Israel's internal problems are not so serious. But after all, any ambitious state must certainly have external enemies (to be at enmity with some kind of "quiet" - do not respect yourself). Until the Karabakh war, remember, in Israel Erdogan was considered the main enemy. And where did this enmity go? Oh yes, there is no longer a need for this horror story! And the Israelis again "switched" to Iran. Tehran has huge ambitions. Its vector today is directed to the Mediterranean Sea (via Iraq and Syria). This is what Jerusalem is very worried about. Last year it became clear that Ankara will not tolerate Tehran's control in the region. After all, one of the important vectors of Ankara passes through this region. There, the interests of these two states intersect. Iran has been consolidating there in recent years. This is what prompted Turkey to be extraordinarily active in the Mediterranean and Karabakh last year. Iran has absolutely no interest in the Negev (much to the chagrin of Israeli politicians). request It's a pity about religion that I have a superficial knowledge, in philosophy I am a complete layman. And before Zoroastrianism and after it, there were dozens, if not hundreds of religions. Why didn't Zoroastrianism become a world religion? Probably because Iran in those days had fewer divisions than the Mohammedans. I look at all this not from a religious, but from a military-historical point of view.
                      1. just exp
                        just exp 17 December 2021 15: 33
                        -1
                        you mean the current political graters, and there are historical graters, they can be said at the genetic level already.
                        and Zoroastrianism was the religion of the largest empire on the planet when it was even more than a thousand years before the birth of Muhammad.
                        and when the Muslims began their campaigns the Zoroastrians had more divisions and were better armed.
                        but why they lost is another question (here is really mysticism, it’s not even a matter of why they defeated the armies of Iran and Byzantium, which were better armed, organized and had combat experience, in contrast to the Arabs, who were then at the level of the Papuans, but the fact that they took one by one the largest fortresses, and the Arabs took them, who never took fortresses even small and did not have any experience or equipment, there are really a lot of theories on this score, and there is already from the intervention of God to aliens, since Well, there are a lot of oddities, and just in the Caucasus and Central Asia they have already begun to beat them, and if they did not find out about the excavations of the supposedly battles of the Arabs with the locals, then they obviously fought there not only with swords and spears)
                      2. aslan balayev
                        aslan balayev 17 December 2021 20: 09
                        0
                        Because of the Arab spring and subsequent events, I completely abandoned the history of the ancient east. She is more interesting to me. And the Arab wars are very interesting. And even without mysticism and aliens. But when we talk about religion, then, of course, we cannot do without mysticism. There is a theory that the new idea (in our case, Islam) is usually more radical than the old one (Zoroastrianism). In Zoroastrianism, there was apparently no militancy. But at the beginning of the first centuries of Christianity, I can find neither militancy nor radicalism. The Arabs, on the other hand, have conquered an incredible number of lands and peoples over the course of two centuries. And they stopped. They have been standing for 1000 years. Are you familiar with Gumilyov's theory? If these topics are interesting to you, he has his own original answer, which many "serious historians" consider not serious. ... And what did the Arabs fight in the Caucasus and Central Asia? New technologies (cannons, guns) have not appeared yet. And, alas, I do not believe in otherworldly forces.
                      3. just exp
                        just exp 17 December 2021 22: 53
                        +1
                        if you are talking about the theory of passionarity, then yes, I have read it, and in many respects I agree, but not in everything.
                        religion cannot be more militant or not militant, religion always teaches only good. but sects and interpretations, those, yes, those can screw this up that they become completely opposite to what it was, but many still believe it.
                        but what the Arabs fought with xs, because I love mysticism and so on (there are reasons for this) and somehow I came across one character, a man of 50+ years, in the 90s he was a black digger, dug weapons, and had connections with fes ( they kept them tightly under control because in the 90s the topic of Chechnya was painful) and business.
                        after the crisis of 98th he returned to diggers, but now not by the weapons of the Second World War, but by old burials and other things like that.
                        and after some excavations he began to believe in the supernatural (and before that there were oddities during excavations, but he did not pay attention to it at all).
                        I don't remember the area anymore, but I remember the name Derbent, in a certain number of kilometers from it they were looking for everything connected with the Khazars.
                        and found the battlefield, by what was left they determined that it was Arabs, approximately the time of the conquest. but those who opposed them like a hodgepodge of soldiers of different armies, as if they were collecting the last forces from different lands, and in terms of what they managed to dig up, he got the impression that the line of soldiers, either with a beam or a giant grinder, were simply cut for dozens of bodies and there are still leftovers on them armor was, and everything in the middle of the body was simply sawn.
                        and then either cops or fesy came to them and turned them up, they say, they were digging without permission. They took everything that they dug up, and that character, having experience of communicating with the fes, somehow got into a conversation with one of them and asked why you are boiling, they are not digging up weapons, not graves and not cultural monuments, we are stupidly digging in the steppe and do not pretend to oil , why so many armed people, why should there be nondisclosure agreements. to which he replied - they say there are places where it is impossible to dig, and why not? Yes, because they can unearth something from which people will ask questions, but these questions are not needed by anyone, they harm. but how and what harm xs.
                        He then gave me links to some alternative historians, I then looked at them, and how to say, they had competent questions, this is about the armament of the army, how to feed it if the Arabs themselves with food was not so hot (the first Suez the Arabs dug up so that they could carry wheat from Egypt to Arabia) weapons, how they resisted the elephants, how they took fortresses and how they fought mainly not with the Persians, but with the Byzantines, and why some European tribes in northern Africa (the descendants of the Goths and Vandals, lived in small clusters and in Africa and the Iberian Peninsula) began to help them.
                        there are sooooo many strange things to which there is no answer
                      4. aslan balayev
                        aslan balayev 18 December 2021 10: 55
                        0
                        Of course, all religions teach good, I do not argue. Therefore, they are accepted by billions of people. The point is the interpreters, I guess. I have never seen people with good intentions among them. These are mostly people with well-flung tongues, very quick-witted and cunning. The Arabs in Kafkaz fought against the Khazars. Probably, the Arabs sawed their enemies in half. They thought they were wrong. The Goths and Vandals in North Africa probably helped the conquerors as the fifth column. Historical science provides fairly clear answers to all questions. Some issues, in my opinion, are simply poorly studied due to lack of information. This is where the suspicion of an otherworldly force arises. Theologians call her God.
                      5. just exp
                        just exp 18 December 2021 12: 28
                        0
                        no, whole rows were sawn there, and they were armed, that is, they were not prisoners, and even now it will not be possible to saw a whole row.
                        Now Th thought that he had not asked about the shields. now it's really interesting to me
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      2. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 16 December 2021 10: 46
        +7
        The Shah, with whom Israel was friends, tried to revive Zoroastrianism as the "root" religion of the Persians,
        but the village, already accustomed to Islam, rebelled.
        And the Ayatollah Imams led to the 1979 Islamic Revolution.
        They introduced harsh laws, as ISIS tried to do recently.
        Then they attacked Iraq and laid about a million Persians in the border swamps near the rivers.
        In general, the country was completely destroyed, as it should be
        Islamists. sad
        1. aslan balayev
          aslan balayev 16 December 2021 12: 30
          0
          Quote: voyaka uh
          The Shah, with whom Israel was friends, tried to revive Zoroastrianism as the "root" religion of the Persians,
          but the village, already accustomed to Islam, rebelled.
          And the Ayatollah Imams led to the 1979 Islamic Revolution.
          They introduced harsh laws, as ISIS tried to do recently.
          Then they attacked Iraq and laid about a million Persians in the border swamps near the rivers.
          In general, the country was completely destroyed, as it should be
          Islamists. sad

          One clarification! Iraq actually attacked. When the Ayatollahs started the shuras of Mura with the Iraqi Shiites and, in Saddam's opinion, went too far.
        2. just exp
          just exp 16 December 2021 14: 29
          0
          wow, is it Iran that attacked Iraq?
          and then everywhere they write that in general it is Iraq, on a tip from the states, attacked Iran.
          and here you are trying to justify your hegemon and accuse the victims of his crimes?
    2. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 16 December 2021 08: 23
      +3
      "Processor" in Iran is already aiming an automatic supercannon from its bunker at the Iranian Nuclear Research Institute.
      In general, I wonder how the Jews will strike Iran?
      Aviation, missiles, special forces, agents, or will it be a military operation? what
      Or it will be a combination of all this ... and most importantly, when the blow will be struck.
      If you look at the example of Syria, then the analogies are approximately visible ... but probably the Jews will come up with something new. hi
      1. sp77ark
        sp77ark 16 December 2021 09: 59
        +2
        Quote: Lech from Android.

        If you look at the example of Syria, then the analogies are approximately visible ... but probably the Jews will come up with something new. hi

        Already come up with.
        MOSSAD HIRED LEADING IRANIAN SCIENTISTS TO EXPLODE KEY NUCLEAR FACILITY
        [media=https://www.translarium.info/2021/12/mossad-recruited-top-iranian-scientists-to-blow-up-key-nuclear-facility%20%20%20.html]
        Original
        [media = https: //www.thejc.com/news/world/exclusive-mossad-recruited-top-iranian-scientists-to-blow-up-key-nuclear-facility-1.523163]
        1. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. 16 December 2021 10: 04
          0
          Entertaining reading.
          smile
    3. askort154
      askort154 16 December 2021 08: 24
      0
      Thank you. You are very "objective".
    4. Egoza
      Egoza 16 December 2021 08: 28
      +4
      Quote: askort154
      It turns out they were all on the exercises. They attacked Iran.

      Here! There in Europe all the Russian Federation is condemned for "intent to attack Ukraine." Let Israel also express their condemnation. Although, if they did not react to the United States properly ... you see the world Jewish government will be stronger! )))
      1. 28st region
        28st region 16 December 2021 08: 43
        +1
        What about the sanctions, how to punish the aggressor, help the injured party?
        But in no way. The United States has set up warehouses in Israel for the rapid deployment forces, into which Jews have already climbed head over heels on more than one occasion.
        Such a condemnation of the aggressor.
      2. tikhonov66
        tikhonov66 16 December 2021 14: 04
        +1
        “... There in Europe, all of the Russian Federation is condemned for“ intending to attack Ukraine. ”Let Israel also express condemnation.
        ..."
        - they are all there "chosen by God" - so they ALL POSSIBLE.
        And the land of the Arabs under the "promised land" RETRACTED.
        And to EXPAND that land by military means several times.
        AND (OFFICIALLY LEGAL - the only (!) Case IN THE WORLD)
        "lay your hands on the device" for ALL UN decisions,
        which only may seem God's chosen - unprofitable for them. \
        - so "Israel" is not an aggressor - it's different ...
        1. atalef
          atalef 16 December 2021 14: 10
          0
          Quote: tikhonov66
          they are all "chosen by God" there - so they CAN DO ANYTHING

          envy is a deadly sin
          Quote: tikhonov66
          And the land of the Arabs under the "promised land" RETRACTED.

          how can you squeeze out what God promised - you hope you understand the word - promised?
          Quote: tikhonov66
          AND (OFFICIALLY LEGAL - the only (!) Case IN THE WORLD)
          "lay your hands on the device" for ALL UN decisions,

          well, not the only one. all the more far not the only one. but it’s all right - for clarifications, please, and I quote you
          Quote: tikhonov66
          they are all there "chosen by God" - so they ALL POSSIBLE.

          good
          Quote: tikhonov66
          who only may seem God's chosen - unprofitable for them


          Quote: tikhonov66
          - so "Israel" is not an aggressor - it's different ...

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  3. APASUS
    APASUS 16 December 2021 08: 20
    +3
    Here it is the third world, and then fortune-telling will begin here. Ukraine or China? The Americans did not give up the idea of ​​getting out of the debt crisis with the help of war ............
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 16 December 2021 08: 34
      +1
      Quote: APASUS
      Americans did not give up the idea of ​​getting out of the debt crisis with the help of war

      Who will throw such a golden antelope? And Iran, by the way, launched a satellite? I heard that the preparation was on the 13th.
      1. aslan balayev
        aslan balayev 16 December 2021 11: 16
        +2
        Quote: NDR-791
        Quote: APASUS
        Americans did not give up the idea of ​​getting out of the debt crisis with the help of war

        Who will throw such a golden antelope? And Iran, by the way, launched a satellite? I heard that the preparation was on the 13th.

        There is no launch information yet.
        1. NDR-791
          NDR-791 16 December 2021 12: 04
          0
          Quote: aslan balayev
          There is no launch information yet.

          Well, that's all the vanity in the light of what can be thrown on this rocket.
      2. aslan balayev
        aslan balayev 30 December 2021 15: 43
        -1
        There is a launch. Iran launched a light-class rocket into space. Today. There is no message yet about entering orbit. Don't you remember the unsuccessful launch of the Iranian missile that fell right on the launch pad?
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 16 December 2021 08: 36
      -1
      Quote: APASUS
      Americans did not give up the idea of ​​an exit out of the debt crisis with the help of war ...

      More precisely, they left such a loophole for themselves ...
      ==========
      Why does Russia not leave itself the opportunity to achieve goals in this way? belay
  4. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 16 December 2021 08: 24
    +12
    Iran itself is Iran, and similar exercises are held in Israel on a planned and regular basis.
    1. askort154
      askort154 16 December 2021 08: 50
      +4
      A. Privalov ......Iran is its own Iran, and similar exercises are held in Israel on a planned and regular basis.

      My neighbor, too, does not go to bed until he checks the work
      drills. wink
      1. Ashes of Claes
        Ashes of Claes 16 December 2021 09: 01
        +7
        Quote: askort154
        My neighbor, too, does not go to bed until he checks the work
        drills.

        Here! To fall asleep at rest, you should have used the Jewish method - Don't let your neighbor buy a drill !!! Well, I don’t know how ... to cut off the electricity for him, break his arms, throw some cannabis and call the cops ... xs.
        1. Dym71
          Dym71 16 December 2021 09: 28
          0
          Quote: Ashes of Klaas
          toss the cannabis

          Ay-yay-yay, it's not good how. crying
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 16 December 2021 09: 58
            -3
            Quote: Dym71
            Ay-yay-yay, it's not good how.

            Papa goosebump brought hash
            Goosebumps don't sleep
            1. Dym71
              Dym71 16 December 2021 10: 46
              +1
              Quote: Krasnodar
              Goosebumps don't sleep

              And the blackbirds do not sleep, but for a completely different reason, the song is one, and what different fates! hi
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 16 December 2021 10: 54
                +1
                Quote: Dym71
                Quote: Krasnodar
                Goosebumps don't sleep

                And the blackbirds do not sleep, but for a completely different reason, the song is one, and what different fates! hi

                hi
                And the fate of the badger leaves no one indifferent
        2. just exp
          just exp 16 December 2021 09: 31
          0
          now do you understand the Arabs why they tried to destroy Israel all the way?
          they, too, simply "did not let their neighbor buy a drill."
          which means to your own logic, they absolutely rightly and correctly did that they attacked Israel.
          and now all sorts of Hamas and others do it.
          they also "do not let the neighbor use the drill."
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        3. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. 16 December 2021 10: 07
          +1
          Fu, how rude ...
          pour brewer's yeast into his toilet ... there will be unexpected sensations.
    2. APASUS
      APASUS 16 December 2021 09: 00
      +2
      Quote: A. Privalov
      similar exercises are held in Israel on a planned and regular basis.

      Is this a coincidence?
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 16 December 2021 09: 23
        +3
        Quote: APASUS
        Is this a coincidence?

        Water boils at 100 degrees and dumplings are boiled at 100 degrees. How would we live if not for this coincidence?
        1. jovanni
          jovanni 16 December 2021 09: 47
          +5
          Quote: A. Privalov
          Water boils at 100 degrees and dumplings are boiled at 100 degrees. How would we live if not for this coincidence?

          It's at sea level. The higher, the lower the boiling point. You need to be closer to God, then it will be easier with dumplings))) ...
          1. A. Privalov
            A. Privalov 16 December 2021 10: 47
            0
            Quote: Jovanni
            It's at sea level. The higher, the lower the boiling point.

            That's right!
            Quote: Jovanni
            You need to be closer to God, then it will be easier with dumplings))) ...

            I don't know how it is with the G-d, but problems with dumplings cannot be avoided.
            At higher altitudes, the pressure is lower. Therefore, the boiling of water does not begin at the usual 100 degrees, but at a lower temperature. For example, at an altitude of about 2500 meters, water boils at a temperature of 90 degrees, and at a summit of 4000 meters already at 85. Molecules and atoms of water during boiling are thrown out of the liquid boundary, because due to heating, the process of movement of atoms accelerates, and they overcome external pressure. Accordingly, the higher you climb the mountains, the lower the temperature the water will start to boil. And for cooking meat, like other products, you need the usual 100 degrees.
            Otherwise, your dumplings will simply remain soggy. hi
    3. tikhonov66
      tikhonov66 16 December 2021 14: 06
      -1
      "... similar exercises are held in Israel on a planned and regular basis
      ..."
      - LIKE - have not been carried out yet ...
      don't la la ...
      1. atalef
        atalef 16 December 2021 14: 12
        +2
        Quote: tikhonov66
        "... similar exercises are held in Israel on a planned and regular basis
        ..."
        - LIKE - have not been carried out yet ...
        don't la la ...

        of course they are held almost annually.
  5. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 16 December 2021 08: 29
    +6
    An interesting logic, if Israel conducts such exercises, then it will attack Iran. Follow this logic. Russia has been conducting such exercises since 2014 with enviable regularity, which means (based on our military potential) we are preparing to fight America.
    1. spirit
      spirit 16 December 2021 09: 11
      +4
      Interesting logic if Israel conducts such exercises

      I thought the same way) Especially Israel, for their good, with their experience, and the teachings do not need to be carried out. They are constantly in real conflicts with hostilities, even local or large-scale ones like wars with neighbors, journalists, as usual, sucked the article out of their finger hi
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      2. tikhonov66
        tikhonov66 16 December 2021 14: 14
        -2
        "... They are constantly in real conflicts with hostilities ... the journalists, as usual, sucked the article out of their fingers.
        ..."
        - Oh how ...
        Then isis - they are just BANDITS.
        So they can do EVERYTHING ...
        8-))
        - and nefig correspondents "suck" ...
        Hai those "correspondents" ALL KAGAL - better "protect geyrope from migrants daddy Lukashenko", but they frighten Europe with "aggressive deployment of Russian troops in the vastness of Siberia" ...
        .
        And it would be funny if it weren't so sad ...
        8 - ((
    2. just exp
      just exp 16 December 2021 09: 32
      -1
      yes, and you are not aware of this?
      only not quite with America, it would be more accurate to say with NATO, in which America, although the main part, is still not the only one
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  6. moscowp
    moscowp 16 December 2021 08: 36
    +3
    And that no one will express concern? Is the G7 there, the EU, the UN? Maybe some sanctions will be introduced against Israel? laughing
  7. ximkim
    ximkim 16 December 2021 09: 06
    +3
    Quote: A. Privalov
    Iran itself is Iran, and similar exercises are held in Israel on a planned and regular basis.

    And then.
    Israel has a clear understanding of its own resources, and therefore is pursuing a firm policy.
  8. Yrec
    Yrec 16 December 2021 10: 01
    +4
    Israel does not have a land border with Iran, and in case of war, their ground forces have only one road - to Syria. They will try to defeat the pro-Iranian groupings there, and the Air Force will try to work on Iran's key targets. To me, as a great sofa strategist (there is nowhere to hang beer lids on a tunic), such an idea seems doubtful. The success of a surprise strike on Iranian nuclear facilities is questionable - unlike Iraq, Iran has distributed them throughout the country and they are well protected. Iran has already worked out the response. Conducted tests, scoring the "Iron Dome" with a massive launch of NURSs from the territory of Syria. If he doesn't do this anymore, then the results are quite satisfactory. In case of war, it will bang NURS and all missiles from its territory at once. The damage may be unacceptable. In the place of Israel, I would start negotiations with Iran, while the hegemon has not grown decrepit at all and is still able to help in negotiations.
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 16 December 2021 10: 22
      +1
      Iran will not be helped by a massive strike on Israeli targets - the first attack + cyber will be on Iranian the key nuclear facilities, but after the Persian response there will be strikes (I think there is already a bank of targets with the distribution of weapons) on the Iranian industry, the military-industrial complex, oil production and processing, missile bases, headquarters of the IRGC, Syrian / Lebanese proxies. This will not stop the nuclear program, but it will cause quite sensitive damage to the country under the conditions of sanctions.
      1. flicker
        flicker 16 December 2021 15: 09
        -2
        but after the Persian response there will be blows
        good drinks not blows will go, but moans.
        Although strikes are possible ... only from Lebanon, Syria, Egypt and possibly even Jordan. After which the ground operation will begin.
        Therefore, the question of how they are going to evacuate the population is not rhetorical, but the most urgent one.
        1. Krasnodar
          Krasnodar 16 December 2021 15: 48
          0
          Quote: flicker
          not blows will go, but moans

          lol
          For 73 years, Jews have been groaning - especially from the opposition of the most formidable enemy of Iran in the past - the Iraqi troops. )) In the wars against Israel, they were enough for two weeks, with the loss of hundreds of tanks, etc., and they acted in coalition with the Syrians and Moroccans yes
          Quote: flicker
          Although strikes are possible ... only from Lebanon, Syria, Egypt and possibly even Jordan.

          Syria and Lebanon - definitely, Egypt and Jordan will not get into someone else's showdown - they love Persians and Jews equally)).
          Quote: flicker
          After which the ground operation will begin.

          laughing
          After which there will be an Arab-Persian rush to the UN with a request to stop another Zionist aggression fellow It was, passed
          Quote: flicker
          Therefore, the question of how they are going to evacuate the population is not rhetorical, but the most urgent one.

          lol
          Yes, 1948, 1967, 1973 - in the last two cases, the Arabs were saved by the intervention of the USSR, which will save now, it is not clear request
          1. flicker
            flicker 16 December 2021 21: 00
            -2
            Krasnodar
            Today, 15: 48

            For 73 years, Jews have been groaning - especially from the opposition of the most formidable enemy of Iran in the past - the Iraqi troops. )) In the wars against Israel, they were enough for two weeks, with the loss of hundreds of tanks, etc., and they acted in coalition with the Syrians and Moroccans yes

            Yes, 1948, 1967, 1973 - in the last two cases, the Arabs were saved by the intervention of the USSR, which will save now, it is not clear

            ---
            There is one small nuance here.
            The state of Israel was created 73 years ago. Of course the Jews for centuries dreamed of creating it... For centuries they dreamed, but could not create.
            But in 1948 someone and for some reason helped them, although they could have helped earlier.
            They helped because a new global geopolitical configuration was emerging. And in this new geopolitical configuration, it was extremely important for someone to take control of the BV, especially since Great Britain was losing it.
            Those. The United States needed to take control of the oil region, which is extremely important for the world economy, and for this it needed its own reliable, fully controllable (i.e. dependent on them ) player. And so the time came for the Israel project.

            It is necessary for the geldings to take control of the Suez Canal - a military clash between Egypt and Israel is provoked with a guaranteed defeat for Egypt.
            Then the war ends, Egypt swears allegiance to the United States, the latter snaps its fingers, Israel leaves the territory of Egypt.
            For such operations Israel was created and received generous assistance.
            ---
            Now the world has approached a new geopolitical situation, which means that the old geopolitical situation is dying.
            Accordingly, the need for Israel also disappears.... What is Israel without the United States?
            ---
            So 73 is not an indicator. The USSR also existed for 73 years.
            1. Krasnodar
              Krasnodar 17 December 2021 08: 49
              0
              Quote: flicker
              There is one small nuance here.
              The state of Israel was created 73 years ago. Of course, Jews have dreamed of creating it for centuries. For centuries they dreamed, but could not create.
              But in 1948 someone and for some reason helped them, although they could have helped earlier.

              For centuries they dreamed, but they began to do something by the end of the 19th century. And in 1948, this was a consequence of the collapse of the British Empire - India and Pakistan, Israel and the never-created state of the Palestinian Arabs, etc.
              Quote: flicker
              They helped because a new global geopolitical configuration was emerging. And in this new geopolitical configuration, it was extremely important for someone to take control of the BV, especially since Great Britain was losing it.

              Quite right, only Palestinian Jews already had infrastructure ready to create a state - from hospitals and universities to armed units and social institutions.
              Quote: flicker
              Those. The United States needed to take control of the oil region, which is extremely important for the world economy, and for this it needed its own reliable, fully controlled (i.e. dependent on them) player. And so the time came for the Israel project.

              The United States then relied on the oil-bearing Arabs - Saud, Iraq, as well as the Turks. Egypt and Jordan were tightly under the Britons, as were the Persians. Israel - so, the votes of Jewish voters in several States.
              Quote: flicker
              It is necessary for the geldings to take control of the Suez Canal - a military clash between Egypt and Israel is provoked with a guaranteed defeat for Egypt.

              It was here that the Americans were sharply opposed - they forced the Britons and the Franks to retreat by threatening a collapse of national currencies, and they acted in unison with the USSR, showing the old European empires their current place.
              Quote: flicker
              Then the war ends, Egypt swears allegiance to the United States, the latter snaps its fingers, Israel leaves the territory of Egypt.

              laughing Israel, after long bargaining and excuses, was the last to leave the conflict zone - in 1957.
              Quote: flicker
              For such operations Israel was created and received generous assistance.

              For similar Franco-British operations? ))
              Quote: flicker
              Now the world has approached a new geopolitical situation, which means that the old geopolitical situation is dying.
              Accordingly, the need for Israel also disappears. What is Israel without the United States?

              The largest territorial conquests of Israel were made before cooperation with the United States, to which Jordan then defected - in 1967. Massive aid went in 1969-1970 when the Union introduced
              military contingents to Egypt.
              Quote: flicker
              So 73 is not an indicator. The USSR also existed for 73 years.

              Yes, but before the collapse of the Union, the Union had a bunch of economic and structural problems, while the Israelis are getting richer - according to the HDI in 2019, they are between Japan and Austria, overtaking the first.
    2. Wildcat
      Wildcat 16 December 2021 10: 34
      +3
      Come on, there are not many nuclear facilities.

      The Hegemon does not only give bombs for deeply located objects, but 1) maybe he did 2) the Israelis could do it themselves, I believe in them.

      F35 have already been tested and ready, F15 with very, very large bombs (2nd echelon, IMHO), are also ready. For Israel, IMHO, the situation is better than when Saddam's reactor was bombed or Assad's.

      Well, the next morning, after the issue of the bomb in Iran is resolved, a bunch of leftists will run to protest (and they always run, they don't need a reason); the Arabs will shout that they are always shouting about America and Israel (although in fact, as follows from the declassified correspondence, "some Gulf countries" in general constantly ask the United States to "cut off the viper's head"); The UN will express DIP CONSERN, - in general, nothing out of the ordinary.
      Perhaps the neighbors of Israel will start buying air defense systems more quickly. And we will sell air defense more quickly. Since the USA is Israel for one "not very big country in the Middle East" actually "big Sata.a", and we, the Russian Federation - "little Sata.a" - well, in general, let them figure it out.

      In the event of a war, or "bangs NURSAMI" Israel has something to answer and change some characters in an instructive form (a remote-controlled machine gun; a rocket that just hits the head without an explosion, something else in the Technion will be invented, not for nothing on a gefitl fish in Israel is leaning).
      In general, let the "Israeli military" plan everything as it should:
      1. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 16 December 2021 11: 08
        -1
        I don’t know about large and really effective bombs - they need a B2, but the Israelis don’t have such a Zikpa. request
        1. Wildcat
          Wildcat 16 December 2021 11: 51
          +2
          Hmm, we have no analogues of the MPA either, we cannot give ...

          So to overwhelm Frodo with what they have, let them sit underground, do something need to be done?

          And in order not to "get up twice" - "hold may bir, pliz" - at the same time to take out the air defense and the air force, there are more targets (old ones, from the shah f14, f5 plus a little moment29), but not critical.
          To convey, so to speak, the seriousness of intentions.

          It will simply be like with North Korea: first, the world community assures that there will be no bomb, then there is a bomb, but there is no delivery, and now this kimchi cannot be turned back.
          Israel all these international guarantees and their price should still be known from the last century.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 16 December 2021 11: 55
            0
            What needs to be done is understandable. The question is how and what .. request
            Infrastructure can be bombed at the beginning of the 20th century - the question is, what's next?
            1. Wildcat
              Wildcat 16 December 2021 12: 46
              +2
              How, "what's next"?
              Repeat the procedures until a positive effect is achieved.
              Now, it dawned on Egypt that it was better to live in peace and not fight. But not right away: I had to travel in tanks across Egypt to Cairo, and to fly on Phantoms over Cairo, and hold Sinai for a bit (although the deal with Sinai is so-so, IMHO).
              And it dawned on other countries that they had to make peace with Israel.

              IMHO, only with this we must stop: already some kind of national sport has become "cut and shoot down all the rockets that fly to Israel." Perhaps already to send hands and heads with these missiles in a peaceful, so to speak, channel? Meir Lansky was a sincere person, they say - a basin of cement, they say, used to organize such swims along the right channel. Many even agreed to postpone the swims.
              But Meir would never have thought of catching stones with which someone decided to leave his window, he would not have built any Iron Domes, he just bought more basins and cement, wholesale and at a discount.
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 16 December 2021 12: 53
                -1
                The deal on Sinai is good, for it legalized amer's aid, which was critical at that time
                The stake on LCD - I agree, stupidity
                1. Vitaly gusin
                  Vitaly gusin 16 December 2021 14: 14
                  +2
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  The stake on LCD - I agree, stupidity

                  Then there is a security room in every house, within a radius of 7 km from the border with Gaza, nonsense.
                  It is clear that it is easier and cheaper to smash Gaza, but no one will understand how, because of 40 thousand Hamas, 2 million civilians were killed.
                  So you have to do "nonsense".
                  1. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 16 December 2021 14: 52
                    0
                    ZhK is necessary, but it should not act as the main type of weapon during the shelling of the concentration of your citizens by neighbors. They should be afraid of retaliation, for this there is no need to destroy Gaza entirely.
                    1. Vitaly gusin
                      Vitaly gusin 16 December 2021 15: 21
                      0
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      They should be afraid of retaliation, for this there is no need to destroy Gaza entirely.

                      And how, out of 2 million residents, to select and destroy 40 thousand Hamas men who are under the hospital, under the schools, which have launchers in residential yards and kindergartens?
                      There is only one way, like in Syria.
                      But who will allow Israel to do this.
                      So it is necessary to defend itself at this stage.
                      But do you still remember the Arabic proverb
                      "Kul kalb biji yomo."
                      לכלב - מוות של כלב.
                      1. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 16 December 2021 15: 52
                        -1
                        Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                        And how, out of 2 million residents, to select and destroy 40 thousand Hamas men who are under the hospital, under the schools, which have launchers in residential yards and kindergartens?

                        Why remove them? You warn one day in advance and demolish a block, then the next one, until the crowd of refugees scatters along the coast and wastelands between n / a
                        Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                        There is only one way, like in Syria.
                        But who will allow Israel to do this.
                        So it is necessary to defend itself at this stage.

                        Which way in Syria?
                        Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                        But do you still remember the Arabic proverb
                        "Kul kalb biji yomo."
                        לכלב - מוות של כלב.

                        Kul kalb bij yomo - every dog ​​has its own day. You mean Hamas, about me, about whom? ))
                      2. Vitaly gusin
                        Vitaly gusin 16 December 2021 16: 26
                        +2
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Which way in Syria?

                        You demolish the block, then the next one, until the crowd of refugees scatters the refugees and the dead along the coast and wastelands.
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        You mean Hamas, about me, about whom? ))

                        Hamas!
                        His time will come, the ayatollahs will substitute him for distribution, but there no one will figure out who is civilian and who is not.
                      3. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 16 December 2021 16: 46
                        +1
                        Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                        You demolish the block, then the next one, until the crowd of refugees scatters the refugees and the dead along the coast and wastelands.

                        Israel will be stopped after a week of such a game, but Hamas will already begin to behave differently due to a heap of problems that have arisen.
                        Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                        Hamas!
                        His time will come, the ayatollahs will substitute him for distribution, but there no one will figure out who is civilian and who is not.

                        Yes, it is understandable, either to be reborn into a respectable political force or transform into regular ghouls
                      4. Vitaly gusin
                        Vitaly gusin 16 December 2021 20: 27
                        +1
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Yes, it is understandable, either to be reborn into a respectable political force or transform into regular ghouls

                        Reborn? No chance.
                        And that their place can be taken by someone else ghoul, even worse.
                        And then they will say
                        "For that fought for it and ran!"
                      5. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 17 December 2021 08: 32
                        -1
                        Quote: Vitaly Gusin
                        Reborn? No chance.

                        Hezbollah then became a Lebanese political movement with a militant wing, the same awaits Hamas
                      6. Vitaly gusin
                        Vitaly gusin 17 December 2021 10: 01
                        +1
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Hezbollah then became a Lebanese political movement with a militant wing, the same awaits Hamas

                        So it still exists today.
                        Head of the Politburo Ismail Haniya.
                        The military wing is headed by Yahiya Sinwar.
                      7. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 17 December 2021 10: 18
                        -1
                        Yes, but they are only in Gaza, nobody in the Hamas Autonomy
                      8. Vitaly gusin
                        Vitaly gusin 17 December 2021 14: 04
                        +1
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        Yes, but they are only in Gaza, nobody in the Hamas Autonomy

                        Unfortunately, in the autonomy they are more and more occupying positions, and therefore the elections were canceled there, since Abass had no chance of winning.
                        According to polls, Hamas ranked first, and Abass between 3 and 4.
                      9. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 17 December 2021 14: 33
                        -1
                        By popularity - of course, in fact, it is unlikely that anyone will admit them there.
                      10. Vitaly gusin
                        Vitaly gusin 17 December 2021 16: 52
                        +2
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        By popularity - of course, in fact, it is unlikely that anyone will admit them there.

                        No doubt he is alive thanks to the SHABAK and the IDF.
        2. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 16 December 2021 11: 59
          +1
          Quote: Krasnodar
          I don’t know about large and really effective bombs - they need a B2, but the Israelis don’t have such a Zikpa.

          All true.
          But there are Hercules who have tried for this task in Syria. And that's why they are now pushing for the Pentagon to get new refuelers ahead of schedule, which can also be used for this purpose.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 16 December 2021 12: 04
            0
            Yes, fig knows
            We must do something along the line of reconnaissance in terms of the demolition of the ayatolas
            The Persians are not stupid people, even talented, with the Jews before the arrival of Khomeini there was always peace - friendship - chewing gum
            1. Vitaly gusin
              Vitaly gusin 16 December 2021 12: 24
              +1
              Quote: Krasnodar
              Persians are not stupid people, there was always peace with the Jews before the arrival of Khomeini

              It's not about the Persians, but about the Ayatollahs.
              Their actions are irrational.
              Here's a recent example.
              "Tehran Times" government media.

              missile strike map on Israel.
              Look closer and smile.


              Here and Gaza and Samaria, the border of Egypt and even Lebanon.
              This is a map of traffic jams in Israel lol
              So much for the Persians.
              They counted on internal use, to raise the patriotic spirit, but it turned out to be a blunder.
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 16 December 2021 12: 42
                +1
                Gas to dust crying
                1. Vitaly gusin
                  Vitaly gusin 16 December 2021 12: 55
                  +2
                  Quote: Krasnodar
                  Gas to dust

                  And the territories with the Palestinians, because of which they want to destroy the "Zionist entity", it turns out together with those for which they do not spare "their belly."
                  Truly "opium for the people."
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              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 16 December 2021 13: 15
                +1
                There are many options, but not everything is so simple - the current rakhbar of all Iran is an ethnic Azeri, for example.
            3. Wildcat
              Wildcat 16 December 2021 13: 06
              0
              Well, who is there a national or religious minority, Azerbaijanis or who? And how do students live there, even kissing, they say, is not allowed on the streets? Hang by the neck?
              And really in all Israel there are not a couple of tons of old ones, but in the chorus. state of Kalash with cartridges to help fighters against oppression? The deal will be good!
              Let someone deal with domestic problems, and not throw rockets at Israel.

              Well, and a radical method - to recognize the "government in exile" and start the fight for democracy. The example of Iraq and Syria suggests that for a very long time then there will be no time for missiles and reactors.
              Leftists and diasporas in Europe poorut (they always yell, even when they are fighting for the rights of whales), the UN will express DIP, BELIEVE DIP CONSERN. And the countries of the Persian Gulf can say thank you (especially those who are up to their throats with proxies in Yemen) ..
    3. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 16 December 2021 10: 43
      0
      Quote: Yrec
      Iran has already worked out the response. Conducted tests, scoring the "Iron Dome" with a massive launch of NURS from Syria. If he doesn't do this anymore, then the results are quite satisfactory.

      But you did not indicate for whom, so I will clarify.
      Israel Air Force hit 70 military targets, belonging to Iran in Syria, causing significant damage. The goals included:
      Intelligence sites related to Iran and its proxies.
      The logistics headquarters of the Quds Force.
      A military logistics complex in Kiswa, a city south of Damascus.
      Iranian military town north of Damascus
      Quds Force ammunition depots at Damascus International Airport.
      Reconnaissance systems and posts associated with the Quds Force.
      Observation and military posts and ammunition in the demilitarized zone of the Golan Heights
      That is why (unlike Israel) they do not try any more.
    4. tikhonov66
      tikhonov66 16 December 2021 14: 19
      -1
      "... In case of war, NURS will bang and all missiles from its territory at once.
      ..."
      - no "nurses"!
      Nursa is a hasballah from the cellars.
      - and Iran - these are high-precision missiles reaching the target at an extremely low altitude.
      As it was during the EXPLANATORY FAILURE of the American military base and the oil industry of the Saudis, covered by the "glorious" American "missile defense".
      - so - if something Israel will swallow dust from the explosions of Iranian missiles ...
      1. Shahno
        Shahno 16 December 2021 14: 28
        +1
        Your truth, do not forget all the same that the IDF have been those entertainers for a long time. And it is far from the fact that these missiles will not fly into Iranian territory at all, or will not start ...
  9. flicker
    flicker 16 December 2021 10: 19
    0
    Against this background, Israel even had certain disagreements with the United States, where they consider it possible to return to agreements with Iran.
    Well, yes, the United States and Ukraine have (as it were) certain disagreements and allegedly the United States is against the war between Ukraine and Russia.
    ---
    It looks like the United States assigns the role of Ukraine to Israel in the BV - they must set fire to the war and die in it, and the United States will bitterly mourn them crying pointing to Russia and Iran as malicious inhuman aggressors.
    ---
    But interestingly, during
    Israeli peacetime to wartime transition exercises
    of this "transition" was the evacuation of the population from the territory of Israel practiced?
    And if so, by sea or land? belay
    1. Falcon iba
      Falcon iba 16 December 2021 10: 58
      +2
      was the evacuation of the population from the territory of Israel practiced?
      And if so, by sea or land?

      Don't you know? There, the evacuation usually takes place "by sea like dry".
      1. flicker
        flicker 16 December 2021 13: 24
        0
        There, the evacuation usually takes place "by sea like dry"
        So it is usually, but this time it looks like it will NOT be usual.
        There seems to be an evacuation and is not considered. Is there any point in starting a war with Iran if all Jews are fleeing?
        According to the scenario of geldings, Jews must fight and die, fight and die. Well, maybe just die.
        Netanyahu, he is Bibi, he is the most malicious am an Israeli corrupt official, as he tried to get out of the war and save Israel. And he will throw the current one into the heat.
      2. Reserve buildbat
        Reserve buildbat 19 December 2021 18: 24
        -2
        Taki sho, is Moishe back? Is it time to wait for new 40-year hikes with the expansion of the "waters of the sea"?
  10. singless
    singless 16 December 2021 12: 08
    -2
    it's high time iza give some buns
  11. ecolog
    ecolog 17 December 2021 15: 08
    0
    and how are they going to fight? there is no common border.
  12. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 19 December 2021 18: 23
    -2
    And where are the cries of the UN and Nata that the evil Israel is driving troops across its territory, and even calling for reservists in batches? Ah ... I remembered. It's different ...
    It is not Russia that is conducting the exercises ...