The Dardik pistol: something so new that there is simply nowhere to go

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The Dardik pistol: something so new that there is simply nowhere to go
Pistol "Dardik" М1500 and cartridges for it. The lid is clearly visible, opening which, the pistol could be loaded with cartridges from the clip, like an old "Mauser"

And now I declare to you
new and intimate,
and you didn't know that.
Exodus 48: 6

History firearms weapons. It happens, but before it happened all the time that, while designing a pistol or a rifle, its creator created, first of all, a cartridge, and only then made this or that weapon for it.

By the way, just now the companies that are fighting for an arms order from the Pentagon for a new 6,8-mm "rifleman" are doing exactly that: they create the cartridges for it themselves, and the weapon under their own cartridges. But these are weapon giants ...



However, there are cases when a new and extremely unusual cartridge was created after the Second World War, when everything conceivable in this area seemed to have already been achieved. And weapons were also created under the same cartridge, and one of its samples is known, so original that it still has the right to exist on the basis of the use of new materials and technologies.

It will be about the pistol of David Dardik, who developed a unique cartridge for an equally unique weapon.

And it so happened that he began developing his pistol back in the late 1940s. But the US patent No. 2847784 received only in August 1958. And we are talking about a pistol with a rotating cylindrical barrel-chamber and a more or less conventional magazine in the handle.

In fact, this design was a revolver with a barrel with chambers that have a U-shaped open, rather than a closed O-shape, characteristic of typical revolvers. Such a drum device made it possible to insert cartridges into it from the side of the cylinder, and not from the front or from the back, as was customary in all conventional revolvers, that is, it made it possible to quickly load the drum from the store.

It is clear that ordinary, cylindrical-shaped cartridges for this pistol-revolver were not suitable, since when fired, their sleeves would swell in those places where they did not touch the walls of the chambers.

Therefore, Dardik came up with a fundamentally new cartridge for his weapon - "traund" (translated from English "triangular round"), a very, very specific type.

In plan, it was a triangle with convex sides and three chambers on the drum had exactly the same shape. The cartridge in the upper chamber, located opposite the barrel, was pressed from above by a profiled plate, due to which the pressure on the walls of the sleeve of this cartridge, which, by the way, were made of plastic, was uniform.

Thanks to this form of the cartridge and the chamber of the drum, the need for any kind of reciprocating movements was eliminated when loading and ejecting a spent cartridge case.


The pistol drum on the right was open and the spent cartridges fell out of it under their own weight!

However, everything can be patented.

The question is, how will this work in metal?

And in metal it also worked, and it worked very well.

In any case, the designer was able to produce several samples of his weapon: "Dardik" M 1100 with a 10-round magazine, M 1500 with 11 or 15-round, as well as a 20-cartridge design - "model 2000". At the same time, the bullet speed of this pistol reached 220-260 m / s (depending on the cartridge), that is, it was quite a decent figure for a short-barreled weapon. For the same revolver, it was 272 m / s. Weighed "model 1500" - 965 g, "model 1100" - 700 g!

From the description in the patent, you can find out that the designer believed that

“In order to withstand the pressure when firing, an odd number of chambers (usually three) are made in the drum magazine. It is placed in the center in a solid frame in such a way that in the chamber, ready to fire, the cartridge rested against one side of the frame, and the drum itself rested against its opposite side.
Unlike a traditional firearm cartridge, which has a roughly cylindrical casing, the open cavity requires the cartridge to be of a different shape. Since the cartridge contacts the frame when firing, one side of the cartridge must match the curvature of the outside of the magazine, and the other side of the cartridge must match half of its chamber. Together, the drum and frame thus form a chamber, and the cartridge must not only fit into this space, but also must seal it when fired without deforming. "


Diagram of the Dardik pistol drum magazine device from US patent No. 2847784 1958. On the right - the cartridge is loading, at the top - it shoots and on the left - it falls out of the drum!

Another reason for the appearance of such an unusual ammunition was the experiments carried out in the United States during the 1950s with machine gun cartridge feed devices, which showed that triangular casings took up 50 percent less space than conventional round casings. Due to problems with the reliable feeding of the triangular cartridge from the magazine to the triangular chamber in the barrel, this concept was not further developed.

But Dardik managed to create a working model!

It was a great success for the designer that the ammunition he developed was designed in such a way that bullets of different calibers could be placed in the same sleeve volume. That is, it was enough to change only one barrel in his pistol, as you already received a weapon of a new caliber.

In particular, the Dardik M1100 had a 9mm barrel. He, however, was not removed in it, and the length was 76,2 mm.

"Dardik" М1500 with a magazine for 11 rounds (and later with 15 rounds) had two barrels from the very beginning: one - 4 inches long (102 mm), and the other - 6 inches (152 mm). Also included were two more barrels of 9 and 5,56 mm caliber. Since the barrel was attached to the pistol on a special latch, it took only a couple of minutes to replace it.

This design made it possible to create a special "whale" for the M 1500, that is, a set of parts consisting of a stock, an elongated barrel and a forend. "Kit" made it possible to quickly convert the pistol into a light carbine. At the same time, an additional 20-inch barrel could be produced in different calibers: 5,56; 7,62 and 9 millimeters.


A set of parts for converting a pistol into a carbine

"Dardik" M 2000 had increased dimensions, a magazine for 20 rounds and a 152 mm barrel. Potential buyers were offered pistols of all calibers, as well as a set with an interchangeable barrel and butt.

Interestingly, standard low-impulse cartridges, such as .38 Special or .22 rimfire cartridges, could also be inserted into the thrund casings. Accordingly, a pistol or a carbine could be equipped with strikers specifically for these cartridges, which could be used for training shooting.

In 1974, Dardik received US patent No. 3855931 for a round cartridge, which contained three arrow-shaped striking elements at once. The cartridge was used in the Harrinton & Richardson SPIW prototype rifle. However, the military abandoned it due to the large weight of the three barrels.


"Colt" and "Dardik" M 1500. "Colt" is a little less, but in the "Dardik" there are not 7, but 15 rounds!

And, again, this was the decision of that year, based on the technologies and materials of that day.

Today, the issue of weight, as well as strength, is no longer so acute.

The fact is that the use of carbon fiber, which is used as a barrel braid, allows a significant reduction in its weight without sacrificing strength. Of course, a stainless steel liner is also present in such designs.

But the main load when fired is not metal, but fiberglass, which is widely used in the aerospace industry and has a specific strength 30 times higher than that of stainless steel, and the rigidity is up to seven times higher than that of steel.

As a result, it turns out that a weapon barrel made with the use of such space technology comes out as much as 64% lighter than an all-steel barrel!

And the benefit of such a weapon is that, with all other parameters, it has significantly better armor penetration rates when firing at bulletproof vests.

The fact is that when a bullet hits the armor plate of the vest, although it does not penetrate it, it breaks the crystal structure of its plate for a short fraction of a second at some distance from the point of impact. And if after this bullet next to this place another one hits, then ... It will surely pierce this plate. And there is nothing to say about the third.

So, if in one shot three bullets are directed at one point at once, then they will hit it next to each other and with some spread in time, as well as an associated difference in the technical performance of each cartridge.


The author demonstrates the transformation of his pistol into a carbine. On the right is a diagram of a pistol with a double magazine capacity

That is, such a design opened many ways, but at that time they did not engage in it, as well as a super-high-speed light machine gun with a rotating chamber.


Advertising of Dardik pistols

Well, Dardik himself did not manage to convince the market that his pistols and carbine should be bought.

They were too expensive, and the cartridges became especially expensive.

So, having released several dozen samples, his enterprise Dardick Corporation ceased to exist in 1962.

Now the weapon of Dardik has become the lot of collectors - lovers of various weapon curiosities!
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  1. +8
    1 January 2022 15: 16
    Originally but stillborn for mass production in the world, where WW2 ended and the cold war began by inertia. On the same calibers and billions of ammunition reserves ...
    1. +18
      1 January 2022 15: 29
      But the ideas themselves do not die and can be reborn in new conditions, with new needs and on a new technological base!
      1. +12
        1 January 2022 15: 41
        Happy New Year, guys! drinks

        Yes, ideas do not die and the Dardik patron may have a future, I don’t know how to work, but outwardly, in my opinion, the construction of the pistol itself is too clumsy.

        Thank you, Vyacheslav, it was interesting to read. smile
      2. +7
        1 January 2022 21: 42
        Come on, nafig))) Three barrels are a fundamentally unremovable problem with cleaning them. And eternal hemorrhoids with alignment, plus always three small trunks will be more expensive. This time. And two - a complete nonsense that they were talking about the fact that a triangular cartridge takes up less space than a round one, if they are a standard ROUND - they are wrapped in an even larger triangular casing !!!
        IMHO - just here's a hymn to hanging noodles on the ears, and with needles and with a thunder. By the way, there was an idea with the needles - three needles in one cartridge - it's easier, the alignment is ensured as in sub-caliber
        And in general, I noticed that the uglier the pistol, the more jambs in it. winked By the way, this is not just a freak, but a standard. All the weight is in a fist, he will shiba on the forehead of the arrow from the recoil) Although no, given that he is too big with stechkin, it’s easier for them to kill just by throwing it)))
        Psi:
        1. +8
          2 January 2022 13: 33
          genius on the verge of madness, or madness on the verge of genius.
          1. +1
            9 January 2022 18: 10
            Note - the author of the pistol made it with his own money and in his free time. That is, just technical creativity that can only be praised. And went down in history. What a pity that the laws of the Russian Federation interfere with such technical creativity ...
        2. Aag
          0
          4 January 2022 18: 27
          Quote: Cowbra
          Come on, nafig))) Three barrels are a fundamentally unremovable problem with cleaning them. And eternal hemorrhoids with alignment, plus always three small trunks will be more expensive. This time. And two - a complete nonsense that they were talking about the fact that a triangular cartridge takes up less space than a round one, if they are a standard ROUND - they are wrapped in an even larger triangular casing !!!
          IMHO - just here's a hymn to hanging noodles on the ears, and with needles and with a thunder. By the way, there was an idea with the needles - three needles in one cartridge - it's easier, the alignment is ensured as in sub-caliber
          And in general, I noticed that the uglier the pistol, the more jambs in it. winked By the way, this is not just a freak, but a standard. All the weight is in a fist, he will shiba on the forehead of the arrow from the recoil) Although no, given that he is too big with stechkin, it’s easier for them to kill just by throwing it)))
          Psi:

          I do not agree with all your theses absolutely - but, for the most part, all the same. "+" ...
          1. -1
            4 January 2022 18: 55
            Quote: AAG
            Not with everyone

            Well, then tell me, which are doubtful ... You yourself understand, I'm not a god, so as not to be mistaken
            1. Aag
              +1
              4 January 2022 19: 04
              Quote: Cowbra
              Quote: AAG
              Not with everyone

              Well, then tell me, which are doubtful ... You yourself understand, I'm not a god, so as not to be mistaken

              ... Happy New Year, colleague !!! (even though in the past they had
            2. Aag
              0
              4 January 2022 19: 34
              Quote: Cowbra
              Quote: AAG
              Not with everyone

              Well, then tell me, which are doubtful ... You yourself understand, I'm not a god, so as not to be mistaken

              Sorry, - the comment has flown ...
              So, I remember you and I once "butted", I don’t remember the reason - just like that, I would not! Well, and you insisted on your own ... Dear ...
              A three-edged cartridge, a projectile, is certainly more expensive to manufacture!
              Not to mention the production of barrels for it ...
              The only one, IMHO, and a dubious plus, is storage, logistics ... hi Happy New Year!
              1. +1
                4 January 2022 19: 48
                By the way, yes, they butted you too, but alas, I don’t remember. Not for Roman, who is Golovan Jack and the conspiracy of marshals on the site?
                1. Aag
                  +1
                  4 January 2022 20: 06
                  Quote: Cowbra
                  By the way, yes, they butted you too, but alas, I don’t remember. Not for Roman, who is Golovan Jack and the conspiracy of marshals on the site?

                  No. Unfamiliar topic ...
                  And who will remember the past ...
                  With the coming, and all the best, to you, your loved ones, all Russians, Russians (in a broad sense)! ...
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                    1. Aag
                      +2
                      4 January 2022 21: 07
                      Quote: Cowbra
                      Solidarity, and for the broad meaning, I see, you have a surname too) I'm Zolotov, but Ukrainian))) Moscow, but by blood - yes.

                      I don’t think it’s so important, but if it’s interesting, to be honest, I didn’t dig deeply myself, my father’s parents from Chernigov region (in the village, Zimodrovka, five (!) Families of unrelated (!) Wore the same surname ... .On the maternal side, -mother was born in Moscow (she waited out the bombing at metro stations ... at the age of five or six) .The grandfather, whom he found alive (paternal line, - in WWII, WWII, partisan in the Bryansk region, limped, as far as I remember, -tractor (without the "rubber stroke" the fists moved in due time ...).
                      I did not find the second grandfather alive. If interested - Petr Fritsevich Skaman! As a child, he played with his award TOZ-8, as a Red Latvian Rifleman ... And in the 9th (or 10th) class of SSH-76 in Riga, he stood in the guard of honor at the monument to the Red Latvian Riflemen (and I don’t regret ... No, I regret that now there is a "museum" of Soviet accumulation !!!!!)
                      Iii? Who am I after this? By nationality?! Ukrainian, German, Jew, Russian (ah! yes! I still had my first Belarusian wife ...)
                      ... By the name of Zolotov ... The late father's best friend of his youth was Vanya (Yan) Zolotov, - for me it's just, - Uncle Vanya ... Zampolit, Major ...
                      He was a gallant man - he entered Prague in hot times, the peak of exacerbation served on the Soviet-Chinese border ...
                      ... Sorry for the outpouring, but, and I ask you to understand the essence, - what ... is the difference (!) (?), Are you drilling, or Latgal?
                      I think the unity should be different! ... and I'm not talking about "braces" ... hi
                      1. +2
                        5 January 2022 06: 44
                        Quote: AAG
                        Iii? Who am I after this?

                        And I would say that it is Russian. You know, there was such a joke ... Second education at RUDN University, then already "Russian" Friendship of Peoples. The guys were different, well, for example ... An acquaintance, well, he is a Buryat, he has a bum, his birthday, that is, we celebrate in a hostel, well, it started again - we, they say, Buryats are different - there is Sanya Irkutsk, he is eastern , and I'm western ... Well, I heard this cart of theirs more than once, then they tired, I was looking for and drunk ... not close to the east "? Stop and listen - with your fingers on both -" You are not Russian and you are not Russian! " Ukrainian - I will never be ashamed. And it is unlikely that my friend Sokolsky, for example, is a Pole, and this is a Panov, and the truth of the gentlemen is also Moscow, he is a border guard, but a Pole will be ashamed of his blood. And he and I are mulberries, and Both have their Motherland here.
        3. 0
          5 January 2022 09: 56
          Three barrels are a fundamentally unrecoverable problem with cleaning them. And eternal hemorrhoids with alignment

          It is much easier to establish normal nutrition for the derringer.
  2. +22
    1 January 2022 18: 16
    It is true that Dardik started out with U-shaped cartridges and weapons for those cartridges ... but he had "competitors" in this endeavor! Among his "competitors", for example, is the American George Kunz with his patent aimed at optimizing the filling of the cartridge case with a powder charge by means of a partially open clip covering the bullet.

    There was also Rudolf Amsler from Switzerland. His patented cartridge, which consists of metal parts, also has a sealing ability to minimize the escaping of propellant gases through the gap between the "drum" and the sleeve.

    As for the "3-bullet" cartridge, the "round", on the basis of this idea, Dardik also proposed his "own" earth auger Tround Terra-Drill! If hard rock was encountered during drilling, it was crushed in a volley from three barrels with special ceramic bullets. Drill cartridges are often mistakenly cited as an illustration of the H&R SPIW ammunition (Dardik salvo "3-bullet" submachine gun); in fact, they are different ... the Dardik's salvo "3-bullet" submachine gun fired arrow-shaped bullets made of hard alloy.


    The Dardik revolver cannon is "known" ...
    One patent, US4748892 "Energy Transfer Multy-Barrel Gun", issued June 7, 1988, describes an "open-chambered" revolving cannon with an external electric drive, four drums and four barrels. At the same time, three channels were made in each barrel, and each triangular cartridge contained three shells. Each drum received cartridges from its own stream. All the drums were rotated at a certain angle relative to each other and rotated in turn at the right moments in such a way that the firing from the barrels took place in turn. In fact, these are four mechanisms from Harrington-Richardson SPIW, connected together in one housing and driven by an electric motor.

    1. +10
      1 January 2022 19: 12
      Wonderful addition!
      1. +2
        1 January 2022 19: 25
        Vyacheslav, I just read the article, as always interesting! And, I liked the addition from "Nikolaevich"! Thank you, and as always you from me +++ !!! hi
      2. +2
        1 January 2022 21: 02
        Thank you !
    2. +2
      1 January 2022 19: 26
      Interesting, thanks for such information! +++ !!! hiI addressed this to "Nikolaevich" !!! good
      1. +5
        1 January 2022 21: 27
        Glad you liked it! To be honest, it seemed to me that the addition turned out to be somewhat chaotic; because. the comment was "created" from the table ... and it will not be quite clear! And they'll scold me too ... and I'll have to apologize! "Like" so ........

        You can still find something at Dardik ...! For example, in the first comment I forgot to show the casually mentioned Dardik cartridges for the "salvo machine" ...

        And the Dardik air cannon project ...

        In 1958, American designer David Dardick patented the Dardick open chamber gun. The weapon uses special cartridges with a cross-sectional shape close to triangular and called "thrund". The drum in this design is not a magazine and serves to feed the cartridge from the magazine to the barrel, where the open side chamber is pressed against the extension of the barrel, forming a chamber.Thus, the ammunition is not limited by the number of chambers in the drum, cartridges can be continuously fed into the chambers from the outside. Removing spent cartridges does not require special tools. The Dardik scheme allows you to create a rapid-fire weapon in which not a single massive part, including a cartridge, will reciprocate, and to avoid many of the problems inherent in conventional automatic weapons. But weapons of this type require special and very expensive cartridges, and therefore did not become widespread.
  3. +1
    1 January 2022 20: 05
    Nightmare ... the invention of the triangular wheel bicycle.
    1. +5
      1 January 2022 21: 36
      Quote: Sergey Z.
      Nightmare ... the invention of the triangle wheel

      3-angle wheels? Pliiiz!

  4. +6
    1 January 2022 20: 36
    Colleagues, I drew attention to the design of Dardik: it is very ugly. Colt next to him is the height of elegance. You can carry it in your pocket, in a holster, but you cannot wear Dardik in your pocket.
  5. +8
    1 January 2022 21: 26
    So, having released several dozen samples, his enterprise Dardick Corporation ceased to exist in 1962.

    The company ceased to exist, but Dardik did not stop creating his "shoots".

    H&R SPIW rifle with triple grenade launcher and bayonet, 1964
  6. +3
    2 January 2022 07: 40
    the beautiful cannot fail to work .... but on the other hand, experience is a useful thing and who knows that in the future weapons will be used from those that have not gone beyond the framework of prototypes. Again, the manufacture of such cartridges simply requires the creation of new lines. And if they are created , then its value will drop significantly over time. Entuasism is needed! wassat
    1. +1
      2 January 2022 22: 10
      Fuck such a refuge. The future belongs to liquid propellants, and only bullets will remain in the store.
  7. 0
    2 January 2022 17: 14
    Pts inspirational crap, I just feel like the lid has slid down a little and you can hear the clatter of cams and gears ...
  8. +4
    2 January 2022 17: 26
    use of carbon fiber

    namely fiberglass,

    Carbon is carbon. And fiberglass is silicon. With a bunch of other elements, but things are completely different. Therefore, carbon belongs to carbon fiber reinforced plastics.
  9. 0
    3 January 2022 18: 31
    The trunk of the Dardik is noticeably higher than the trunk of the Colt. This is, of course, not new to revolvers. However, a higher-located barrel inevitably gives a stronger throwing of the weapon upward when fired. It turns out that this is insignificant for rare shots. But for fast aimed shooting, the Colt is more profitable.
    At the same time, the Colt is not converted into a long-barreled weapon, which is sometimes required (remember such attempts to "lengthen" a revolver with its attached wooden butt-holster). However, the Dardik, with its high barrel, is more profitable to use not with a short barrel, but as a multiple-shot carbine or rifle. But - with the possibility of quick conversion into a short-barreled weapon. And not vice versa, as it was positioned.
    True, it is difficult to imagine a rare situation when a shooter would need to throw a good long-barreled Dardik for the sake of urgent conversion into a not-so-good short-barreled version.
    However, if it is technically possible to simply lower the barrel of the Dardik to the level of an ordinary pistol (the same Colt) while maintaining other advantages, then an interesting weapon will indeed appear.
  10. 0
    3 January 2022 20: 19
    Is it carbon fiber or glass?
  11. 0
    4 January 2022 10: 12
    The main difficulty is removing the cartridge case after firing. In classical schemes, as a rule, the energy of the shot is involved, or one or another type of ejector. The initial idea of ​​the circuit is visible in the pencil sketch - a U-shaped notch, from which the sleeve will simply fall out.
    Obviously, nothing came of it) When fired, the sleeve expands, is tightly driven into the recess and very often refuses to leave it. I had to bring the liner shape to an almost pure triangle, justifying the increase in store capacity. This is of course true ...
    Naturally, the usual methods of making casings for such a shape are not suitable, I had to use molded plastic, driving a blizzard about its "advantages" obtained by very specific measurements. Somehow it happened. But only something like that. Triangular plastic wedges anyway) Even less often. It is almost impossible to push in some kind of ejector - its only working position is from the side of the drum axis. To stick it in there means it is unacceptable to weaken an already imperfect structure.
    It's an interesting idea, but it won't work.
    Well at least there is no frostbitten author of the idea on the site, who will climb in turn to check my student's book))
    Yes, I forgot. When fired, due to the expansion of the sleeve, the "sleeve-bullet" system is displaced outward, to where the drum has no wall, the bullet leaves the axis of the barrel, this will have to be taken into account, which leads either to uneven wear of the barrel, or to complicate the scheme, etc. etc. All this is also not happy)
  12. 0
    4 January 2022 20: 50
    Dardik certainly deserves respect as a designer. There are not many people who can look at the problem and solutions in a radically new way.
    I am not a "pistol", but reading the article I wondered, but how would the "extraction mechanism" behave if the hand holding the pistol would not hold it vertically, but at an angle? Or even horizontally? The cartridge case does not want to fall out upwards. So what...? Delay, breakdown?
  13. 0
    12 January 2022 16: 52
    Original, fresh, but h..yya! Weapons should be as simple as possible. The more gears, the more chances of misfires during combat. For a toy, of course, it's cool, I would shoot)
  14. 0
    12 January 2022 17: 59
    What kind of criterion is this "and very good"? Is it good or bad? ... journalists)))